Track Race #18 | 360 vs NSX-R vs M3 CSL vs 360 CS vs Gallardo vs GT3
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2020
- From Best Motoring Series 2004
Ferrari 360 Modena F1
Engine F131B 3586cc DOHC V8
Max Power 400ps/8500rpm
Max Torque 38.0kgm/4750rpm
Weight 1430kg
Honda NSX-R
Engine 3179cc V6 DOHC
Max Power 280ps/7300rpm
Max Torque 31.0kgm/5300rpm
Weight 1270kg
Porsche 911 GT3 Club Sport
Engine M96/79 F6 3600cc
Max Power 381ps/7400rpm
Max Torque 39.0kgm/5000rpm
Weight 1410kg
BMW M3 CSL E46
Engine 32 6S4 S6 3245cc
Max Power 360ps/7900rpm
Max Torque 37.5kgm/4900rpm
Weight 1430kg
Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
Engine F131B 3586cc DOHC V8
Max Power 420ps/8500rpm
Max Torque 38.0kgm/4750rpm
Weight 1290kg
Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear
Engine 07L V10 4961cc
Max Power 500ps/7800rpm
Max Torque 52.0kgm/4500rpm
Weight 1580kg - Авто та транспорт
I hope the 360 driver enjoyed his first time out on a track....
Which 360? I don't know Japanese
@@aspiringaspie3280the one that wasn’t the Challenge Stradale, the one without the white stripe on the top of the windshield. (The one that was dead last.)
The real ranking is qualifying times. NSX-R driver seems to have carte Blanche to do whatever he wants to win the ‘race’ while others have to pay for any damage in case of accident
haha not quiet, Gan-san is just know to be more agressive but all drivers are professional Super GT drivers. All the NSX-R has some more power than official, all Japanese manufacturers cheated on the power figures, they all made some more, especially the NSX-R got the best performing engines from Honda. Japanese manufacturers tested the engine in bad conditions so they did not make more than 280hp due to the gentlemans agreement.
and how can you explain qualifying times@@binskee677
No, the NSX driver is just very experienced. His name is Keichi Tsuchiya, and he's raced in Le Mans and other circuits in an NSX.
@@ShotgunTurtle816 What are you on about??? DK wasn't even in this race my guy...
The exhaust on the ferraris sounds good damn
That's not exhaust that's ferraris flat crank and firing order it they're signature sound
*damn good
@@fortheapexaa, and also 40 valve
Gan-san is really a master of his work when he's inside the NSX-R 👌🏻
Not when he purposely blocks though, which he tends to do with certain regularity.
He sucks
When he’s in any honda!
A like Gan San but he's always cheating on starting and blocks everyone. For me only lap times matter
黒澤さんは、このバトルの目的わかってるのでしょうか？
ガンさんまじ昭和のレーサーの血流れてるの草すぎwそれにしてもはっちゃん大人だなぁ
Challenge stradale have best lap times. Nsx good car but cheating before the last straight
"Cheated?! Hold up there baldy; what you thing this is some sorta game on the play ground? You never had a chance to defeat me FOOL and you know why?"
"Because you cheated?"
"NO not be cause I cheated, because I'm and evil genius, and you're just a kid. A stupid kid!"
"You know what I've learned the past 6 days 5 hours and 22 second is that you are who you are."
@@tylerbivins2393 are u kidding me or u cant see!! İ dont know what the fuck you talking about but when u see lap times at the end u have to know who win but u cant
@@selcukaker1753 its a SpongeBob movie quote...
A lot of people are saying something was up with this race, and I have to say, before i saw any comments, I thought that the drivers other than the NSX were often chilling and not pushing. The NSX-R is obviously a beast, especially in the hands of someone that really knows it, but I don't overly drink the Kool Aid on that car like a lot of the fanboys. The NSX might have superior turn in, and perfect balance, and the R trim level is a monster, but it didn't add up to the domination that some people try make it sound like. The RX7's of that generation were beasts too, their top trim levels were top performers as well. Those races were televised on the speed channel back in the day, and the rx7's would have half lap leads on people, including NSX's, until heat soak would factor in later in races, and people would gain ground. The NSX, beautiful timeless car. Unbeatable? The best of a generation..a nice discussion, but not fact.
@@uncle_salty_3675 yes but they are genuinely pushing hard and wringing them out. Still excellent entertainment.
NSX хорошая машина, но до ламборджини и порша ей явно далеко
@@tonychavez2083 right on. The bitching and moaning that takes place in the comments section, good grief.
Definitely saw some sandbagging on this one. I've noticed this on some other BMI videos. But in reality, the Stradale should have won. Better brakes and more power in comparison to the NSX Type R.
It got ahead by the driver finding a good position then it was especially visable on the last lap that it raced defensive
On many occasions European c@rs are lost to Japanese cars. Sorry but that led me to be skeptical about the credibility of Best Motoring.
Best Motoring do tend to drive non Japanese cars nowhere near their limit. The idea that an NSX-R is that much faster than a Challenge Stradale or a 996 GT3 is comical at best. You can see how far at the limit the NSX's, GT-Rs and other similar sports cars are. Then you see the Italian and German cars always being short shifted and let off throttle way ahead of the turn. They had a race where an NSX-R was able to stay in view of a F50, which I found comical.
These races are fake
@@iwshfg6 This - ua-cam.com/video/VPEb-6xLjQw/v-deo.html
@@CCP_zhongguo_sai_B This is worse..
m.ua-cam.com/video/85ihIhz2U1I/v-deo.html
On what planet the 911 GT2 RS has worse brakes than stock GTR lol, also the GT2 RS driver accidentally mis-shifted to let the GTR win
@@Random.Contents. totally agree!
What a joke. 😂
ppl here do be forgetting that gan-san is a dangerous driver huh? he clearly closed the door at the last lap so he wouldn't pass him!
best motoring is to showcase the performance on cars. but gan-san dont care about that, he race to win so he will do whatever it takes that includes blowing up a motor, cause an accident or whatever the case may be. that's why most these drivers "scared" of him bc hes reckless!
That's my feeling too watching all these BM videos. He's good with certain cars but his driving can be downright dangerous sometimes.
@@KaizenSerika Hattori at the last corner said "dangerous, is this dotard idiot ?"
That`s called racing. In order to take the corner to the right he needed to be on the left side of the track. The Ferrari wasn`t next to him yet so the NSX had all the right to move to that side. Racing is not moving over for a other cars just because they are faster.
ALL DE TIME YU HAV TO LEAVE DE SPACE, OKAY? ~ Fernando Alonso, Double World Champion.
@@JamoZNL Normally, yes. However this is not the objective. The objective of BM is to see which car is the fastest, not which driver is.
It's weird, the NSX shouldn't be that fast in straights
It wasn't fast on straights though
Top Speed Yould be listet
Hows that 280 hp engine on nsxs
It is when you exit out of corners faster than a Lambo
It was always heavily rumored that the NSX-R motor was a little spicer than the regular NSX one, despite them claiming it wasn't.
That NSX is awesome!
最後のブロックはひどいですね💢フェアなバトルじゃないな
服部選手の冷静なコメントとドライビングは見てて楽しいです
実質のWINNERはチャレンジストラダーレでしたね✨
best car videos on UA-cam
This is EXACTLY what racing should be.
What's the straightline speed pf the Nsx I doubt It would be able to stay ahead on a straight that long against all those cars
280kph others could go about 300+
it wouldn't but the straights are not long enough even when the other cars had even more power, it creates the gap in the corners and especially under breaking. Also Gan-san blocked the Ferrari in the end, otherwise the Ferrari might have took the win.
レジェンドカップに呼ばれなかった理由がこれだね
Hmmm? Gallardo 4wd n 500hp.
Never seen it perfomed so bad before...the driver maybe?
In the video it said that Gallardo's rear alignment was off... I'm Japanese and can read them.
@@FoodFighter46 do all gallardo come awd?
@@medbukenya836 nope, some are MR
@@medbukenya836It cames only 250 Cars , its Called Balboni (Limited Edition Modell with only Rear wheel drive)
@@CANERm3 Valentino Balboni edition, named after famous Lamborghini test driver
the last of the true M3's - very impressive with that 3.2 motor, a touring car champion with those last E36's..
The e46 is the best ever, last i6, and the CSL is so track specific, almost not a bmw anymore but the driving experience of it…
@@RomainFleuryWhatever your absolutely correct, and I meant to say E46 , what a gem of a motor.
E92 is a true drivers car as well
None of the new so called “M3” bmw’s of bmws at all are able to keep up with top of the line ferarri’s and porsches like they did back then. Its really sad tbh
Not really. These were only fitted with a horrible automatic transmission.
I feel why people are mad because they think the race is rigged, but I say that guy in the ferrari was clearly frustrated at the end,. He even went as far as to curse Gan-san (when he said “ano kuso Gigi” I was laughing so hard). It really isn’t about the cars this time its about the drivers. Gan san really is just that good.
The Power Of Dreams ❤
最後ブロックすんのほんと草
Gan-san's drive in NSX is awesome, but not his block, it's awful.
The last corner block is not necessary. He got the inside line anyway, and no one would blame NSX-R if it lost after all.
Standard NSX is actually a bit out dated in it's 00's. It can barely competes the supercars like it did in 90's. The NSX-R is not dominanting, but not far behind.
It's gansan he cant loose
big ego probably, as mentioned by his son takuya before too
All the manufacturers featured had supplied engines to f1
NSX was spice up,the real battle would've been GT3 and Stradale
I think the guy in the Gallardo was in a team race with the guy in the NSX
They are literally son and dad ahahahahhaha
@@apsilone3413 really?
@@andreashabeck1155 Yes, google Motoharu Kurosawa and Takuya Kurosawa
Gallardo in yellow looks legendary
Best Motoring or Japanese Motoring? Even JDM fans realized the shows bias and setup laps by now. E46 M3 CSL has the fastest Nurburgring lap time among any of these cars and by a 6 second difference from the next best in this group.
Which is absolutely crazy that a BMW is able to outpace super cars of the time
@@jakegianino5762 Not sure what the hate for BMW is among the JDM fan boys really. BMW is the example for nearly all of them. How? Well if you look at the engineering, BMW’s main concentration has always been achieving the most power out of the least displacements engines. Unlike Mercedes-Benz or any of the American cars. Look at Honda’s ideology for instance. Also the 2J isn’t even made by Toyota. It’s built by Yamaha but designed by a German motorsport company.
Totally different track. 🤷
Nurburgring times do not indicate best performance on every track. The CSL was developed on and for the Nurburgring, that's why it's quick there.
My friend 7:50 is the time of m3 csl
7:56 is the nsx r time on the nordschleife, it’s 6 seconds gap arround the high speed 8 minutes lap, the slower the circuit setup is the better the nsx r performs comparing to the csl so even with a same high speed track the nsx would be theoretically 1.8 seconds slower than the csl but at twin ring the nsx r has much more advantage on the csl so the test are so true that you have absolutely no idea 🤷♂️
In Japan there may even be a Bugatti Chiron! Honda will always win! 🤭
chiron is too late in race track
lol nsx had a great power to weight ratio compare to that big ass super car and the track is very suitable for nsx compare to those supercar.
If you watch all races they always allow the nsx to pass.. No one ever defends. Its hilarious 😂
@@MrArt69 lol i've already watched every single video of best motoring
Statoo.
服部さんのたまに発する毒舌がたまらん！
I’m not sure I buy the NSX beating even the Stradale, but it looks like it was a blast!
The e gears were garbage..as usual the nsx r holds its place even though I thought the cs would eventually get him at the end of the long str8. The csl is fast but it outweighs the NSX r significantly and even though the engines share displacement the NSX is helping with traction by being midships. The NSX R is the greatest car of its generation..
I'm waiting to see the NSX-R against the F355 Challenge. Both are stripped down mid-engine track toys of the same generation with similar displacement (3.2 vs 3.5)
F355 Challenge is literal race car. NSX Type R is just a little lighter sports car like M3 CSL. Regular F355 would be better comparison
The ferrari was 2 seconds a lap faster.
@@uncle_salty_3675 it may not be a real race but they’re taking real risks with big dollar cars. Watch some of the rainy races.
『アホかホンマにこのクソジジィ』（笑）
by 服部
1st - The script in BM is to make the JDM's look good. 2nd - Gansan is a kamikaze driver. You go side by side with him on a corner, you're going to the wall. LOL
2:07 - 🤣😂🤣Does he have a spare engine on the right?🤣😂🤣😂
Congratulations on the videos!!!!!!! Japan has the best cars!
I can't believe M3 CSL which is coupe 2-door sedan can compete with high-end sportcar / entry-level supercar at that same era
I can't imagine how fast Nissan Skyline GT-R Z-Tune R34, a japanese M3 CSL but better in everyway. Perhaps will be as fast or even faster than NSX Type R
This is like watching a movie, you know its fake and scripted but hilarious to watch. 😂
Someone who worked on the show in the 90s revealed that the guy who drove the McLaren F1 in its episode was told specifically to drive slow because it had just won the JGTC & Nissan were trying to get it banned from racing in Japan at the time.
@@Hydruss443It was completely to do with wet conditions and the car was worth a million dollars.
Because you people are too close-minded and ignorant to understand that 0-60 test always has been a joke and do not really shows cars real potential on track. It’s a marketing material for lazy or non enthusiastic people who don’t want to give a good thought to cars real performance. First of all, NSX was not the fastest car here, it finished P1 because other faster cars was struggling in the battles before they make their way forward, while NSX had a good start from beginning. Secondly, other cars are less suited for such a small course as Motegi than NSX, mostly because they have much longer gear ratios, including final drive. Thirdly, NSX Type R is a track tool with almost no compromises in terms of daily drivability, which makes it lighter and stiffer compered to most of competitors here. It is an obvious advantage in Motegi layout. This fact can lead us to the conclusion that even with more power (but not so dramatically because of P.W.R) competitors don’t have such a huge gap on a straights because top speed really depends on your corner entry, mid cornering and, as a result, in your recovery from corner. After corner recovery there is not enough space to accelerate because straits on this course end really soon and (again) requires shorter gear ratios to be most effective. For instance, in this case NSX will be much faster in recoveries compered to 4WD Gallardo, because Mid-ship layout at this time and at this track layout is far superior in every way compered to 4WD, maybe except 0-60 launches that you people so care about and love to compare. Finally, the guy who was driving NSX was Motoharu Kurosawa, who is a racing veteran and the best driver on this grid. He is also a Honda’s test pilot, who had spend numerous time before with this car and knows its limits precisely, while others cannot drive their cars so comfortably on the edge. Plus all this cars are expensive West exotic with LHD, that can be problematic to Japanese drivers here. This complex of factors gives a great handicap to NSX in THIS PARTICULAR track battle. For instance, if you put a Gallardo in Tsukuba it will obviously not be so effective as in Fuji speedway and contrary to NSX, because different cars are not performing in the same efficient way in every circumstances. You see? It’s not always about HP and cringe 0-60 test. It’s a pity that people like you can’t get that because of your ignorance
@@Hydruss443 what??
NSX 4th on best times, so that's where it lives
Too bad they didn't have a 2002 - 2004 c5 z06 in the mix. Would love to see that battle!
That CS needs a dirver mod
Well, he and 360 had a hard time behind the slow lambo
I have seen many races of this channel..
Mostly the drivers on the Lambo are worst..
And some Japan politics to bring up Japanese cars top
Didn’t know the NSX-R was that quick around a track
It isn’t, this is just scripted.
@@nichtgefunden404 Nonsense. The best lap time of the NSX R was really good. However the 360 was 1-2 seconds quicker but blocked by Gan-San, that's why the NSX-R won.
@@gt7984 scripted is false, but best motoring were well known for doctoring the NSX and setting it up for success in most races. it's always on better tyres, and it's driven WAY harder than the other cars.
@@lanesplitter8723 it allowes to be driven harder than others. I had the opportunity to drive many crazy cars the last 20 years, like 911 GT3, Ariel Atoms, the M3 CSL etc, there is something different to Honda cars though which is even very noticable in their Civic Type R and especially in the Integra Type R which allows you to drive them much more on the edge than other cars and that from the beginning. Other cars, especially europeans take more time to understand and have a more conservative setup from factory, even the GT3, they are very concerned with amateurs binning their cars wheras the Hondas are ... almost a bit dangerous (which makes them very fast in capable hands).
4:09
Those killer downshifts..
Gan-san in NSX is invincible
in 20 years only 2 cars will be on the road as reliable. nsx and m3
Why is the guy at 10:25 tipping the Brake with the lebt fort while ging full throttle?
11:50 I think this is the first time I see this type of blocking movement in the show
NSX driver just cut the 360CS off non stop, 360CS WON !!! What a car !!
Well another best motoring bias
Ferrari is soo beautiful.. ♥️
that m3......genuinely quick.
Sadly it never had clean air, I feel it was held up.
It was tom!
the characteristic of japan circuit is all suitable for NSX. EU cars maybe to heavy specially in suzuka
Fianlly someone who understands and does not blame them for scripting, especially their usual track Tskuba favours small light cars much more than heavy high HP cars. In this case the NSX-R is indeed a very capably car and on par with the CSL and the GT3 ( also makes much more power than the 280hp like all the Japanese cars).
はっちゃんいつも黒沢親子の犠牲になってて可哀そうだったけど車の良い所を的確に言ってくれて好きなドライバーです(*'ω'*)
That gearshift at 4:48 is insane 🤯
August 2004, the issue which a NSX-R predicted Enthusia Professional Racing can match the European Supercars.
Alot of you have NEVER driven a car on track Its obvious...
FYI, all these cars back then had crappy sequential gear boxes, quick shifting Dual clutches weren't used. Stop commenting about egears and SMG, they were all equal, all crap compared to now. On another note that 360 CS was clearly the fastest car here, not sure how that shows Japanese bias, 2 seconds a lap is huge
Have you ever experienced later iterations of the Ferrari F1 gearbox or Maserati MC Shift? Im guessing not lol. The shift in the 430 Scuderia is about the best gearshift ive ever experienced in a road car and the pinnacle of the tech. Unforgettable shifts. Even in the 360CS, the F430, the Granturismo GT / MC Stradale and the the Gransport, the automated manuals in these cars is WAY better than some would lead you to believe. I admit the SMG could be awful but really only at town speeds....in the E60 M5 the SMGiii is SOOO much better when your "on it" than the shiddy 6sp manual the yanks got that its not even funny.
@@tomwebb7091 No I was referring to these cars here and the robotized manuals from that era (1996-2006 roughly). I drove a 360 CS for multiple days and M3 SMG many miles, poor performing and very unreliable reputation. The BMW SMG's were around since the mid 90's
I have also driven 458 Speciale and 458's, those are totally different transmissions and very impressive, I've never driven a Scud , but like I mentioned that was an iteration after the 360 as was the MC shift
Same race in
Russia: Lada wins
Sweden: Volvo wins
Korea: Hyundai wins
UK: Land Rover wins
France: Citroen wins
Spain: Seat wins
Australia: Holden wins
China: Geely wins
And they still think people are stupid.
just that Porsche and BMW mostly win in Japan, BMW was even their Toge Maui for years. Watch all their videos before judging. Japanese culture is different to the west and european cars are considered better than japanese cars in japan by most people, especially Porsche is huge in Japan. The NSX was just lucky in the Video but even then the NSX-R is a very good car, one has been sold for 630k in the US just a few days ago, most people just don't know anything about it but performance wise it's on par with the GT3 and probably slightly better than the CSL.
Also: Because you people are too close-minded and ignorant to understand that 0-60 test always has been a joke and do not really shows cars real potential on track. It’s a marketing material for lazy or non enthusiastic people who don’t want to give a good thought to cars real performance. First of all, NSX was not the fastest car here, it finished P1 because other faster cars was struggling in the battles before they make their way forward, while NSX had a good start from beginning. Secondly, other cars are less suited for such a small course as Motegi than NSX, mostly because they have much longer gear ratios, including final drive. Thirdly, NSX Type R is a track tool with almost no compromises in terms of daily drivability, which makes it lighter and stiffer compered to most of competitors here. It is an obvious advantage in Motegi layout. This fact can lead us to the conclusion that even with more power (but not so dramatically because of P.W.R) competitors don’t have such a huge gap on a straights because top speed really depends on your corner entry, mid cornering and, as a result, in your recovery from corner. After corner recovery there is not enough space to accelerate because straits on this course end really soon and (again) requires shorter gear ratios to be most effective. For instance, in this case NSX will be much faster in recoveries compered to 4WD Gallardo, because Mid-ship layout at this time and at this track layout is far superior in every way compered to 4WD, maybe except 0-60 launches that you people so care about and love to compare. Finally, the guy who was driving NSX was Motoharu Kurosawa, who is a racing veteran and the best driver on this grid. He is also a Honda’s test pilot, who had spend numerous time before with this car and knows its limits precisely, while others cannot drive their cars so comfortably on the edge. Plus all this cars are expensive West exotic with LHD, that can be problematic to Japanese drivers here. This complex of factors gives a great handicap to NSX in THIS PARTICULAR track battle. For instance, if you put a Gallardo in Tsukuba it will obviously not be so effective as in Fuji speedway and contrary to NSX, because different cars are not performing in the same efficient way in every circumstances. You see? It’s not always about HP and cringe 0-60 test. It’s a pity that people like you can’t get that because of your ignorance
The Gallardo is not only ugly, it’s fucking slow to!
Der NSX hat bestimmt ein Reisgetriebe drinne😂👍🏾
Und der M3 wird mit Weissbier getankt
@@thatopendiffdude9109 hahaha🤣👍🏾
Ferrari is faster.
And the nsx? lol
@@dariofernando5572this races are fake read my comment and understand it.
This shit is fake
Best Motoring is the only place you will see European cars proven in every capacity to be faster get destroyed by slower Japanese ones.
Yeah
As soon as the 360
CS got to the bumper of the NSX-R, he started driving 5/10ths. Nice compelling script.
race feels skuff
If that NSX has 276bhp then im a god damn Japanes-a-man!
it doesn't, like any of the Japanese cars, they all made more power, sometimes even up to 50hp more, they used to test engine power under very bad conditions to stay within the "gentleman agreement" stock GTR's have been measured with up to 350hp under good conditons. Also what Honda did was saying that their cars (example the NSX) would rev to 8000rpm when in fact it would rev to 8400rpm making peak power there. I don't know why but they were heavily cheating to stay in the gentlemans agreement.
I’m not a Honda fan but that NSX was ripping.. he was pushing it 10 10ths..
god
Nsx is driven at 120% the rest of the pack 90 -100%
Wrong wheels on the m3 csl
Ferrari Modena's Driver was sleeping at the start or what????
Ferrari driver ? Come back at school guide again !
Nobody is pushing the car to the limit except the nsx-r, that’s all about this video
All videos, you mean.
because they were stuck behind the Gallardo, the NSX-R got lucky with a early overtake, the stradale did push once it had clean air quickly picked up. The race would have been much different without the gallardo
Not accusing anybody of anything. BUT the Gallardo Turned way to wide and almost seems like it let of the throttle, because everyone started to pass him like nothing 🤔 7:11-8:00
if you have driven one you know it does not belon on any track
@binskee677 I am happy to let you know that I did take that into consideration. Notice that none of those cars are true race cars they are sports cars , so in short words, they should all be about the same level. It's basically a drivers race🙂 peace ✌️
@@geokomand5852 hahaha yes they are not racecars but they are very very different in weight, power, suspension, setup etc. the Gallardo is a GT car, it's not a track focused car, the Scuderia, the GT3, the CSL and most the NSX-R are track focused car. The Gallardo is probabaly the second worst car in the bunch, thats also why it started at the front on the reverse grid order. See they also do single lap times at the beginning of the show.
@binskee677 Thanks, man. It was good talking to you. Looks like you know your cars✌️ hopefully they do something like this with the modern versions.
はっちゃんガチギレ 11:43
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Fake it Till you make it right NSX? LOL
Am I the only one who find the fact that NSX is 300 kg lighter then both Ferrari and Lambo, despite the fact that NSX was way cheaper and supposed to be a super car analog for regular people?
11:54 マジでこのジジイ起用してる理由がわからない
the NSX cheated at the last corner he blocked that Ferrari before the breaking..
You can tell it's scripted.
mmmmmm again the sAme thing happens here, at the min 3:53 the ferrari stradale driver "forgots" to acelerate of course then at the min 4:09 the 360 modena It acts as a "plug" by braking more than necessary and slowing down itself and 911 so that the NSX passes freely and easily.
and in the end the gallardo brakes much earlier for the NSX to pass easily.
I really had respect for Japan for their way of doing things and their excessive seriousness (just like the Germans.) But this is a VERY bad joke.
They drive the Japanese car too well (up to the limit if necessary.) but any contender too badly.
Well of course. Ifyou actually do trackdays you'd know how to preserve tires, brakes, etc. during the race. NSX had the weight advantage, gallardo was a lot heavier compared to that. Had he braked later than the NSX, sure he could've stayed 1st but not at the end of that lap because his brakes would be worn out and he might've ultimately come last because of that problem. Tsukuba circuit have lots of corners than straights, less weight is key on this track.
@@paulouy8996
They don't even finish the firts lap and you are saying that the gallardo has to conservate the breaks and tires?Although the NSX is lighter, it does not have four-wheel drive, which clearly favors the gallando in terms of corner exit, and more torque,also what you say falls under its own weight due to the fact that the gallardo is faster in line straight and in curves it is understood that too (4wd),also, the only clear disadvantage is the tires and the weight, no offense, it seems that you justify the result that they give and based on what you said I leave you the correct comparison between both vehicles so you can see that the NSX has no chance of winning(exept the 360modena) (if it is not a Japanese program of course) :
NSX vs Gallardo: fastestlaps.com/comparisons/k0l46u3gv06k
NSX vs GT3 : fastestlaps.com/comparisons/fpt051ibt7ac
NSX vs 360CS: fastestlaps.com/comparisons/1dbb2s1cbi2l
NSX vs 360modena: fastestlaps.com/comparisons/vcp9f1bsam7k
NSX vs M3 CSL(They are matched,that's actually because the m3 is limited to 250km/h if it wasn't the m3 beats easely the NSX):fastestlaps.com/comparisons/cfz73ebozu1u
Its kinda funny cuz in all japanese track the m3 is significantly slower than the NSX and in other is even faster YIKES, the gt3 is faster in all tracks except the japanes one, call me weird but is pretty obvious whats happening here.
I can sort of understand your scepticism but their are too many variables to point fingers or make accusations. 1.) these are not individual timed sessions, under those circumstances lap times or hypothetical race position may differ. 2.) they are racing door-2-door, one just has to sit back and wait for the right opportunity. 3.) drive axles, weight, weight balance, suspension, down-force or lack of there of, engine placement, tires, transmission, brakes, etc - major factors!!..and all things(drivers) being equal...they will definitely dictate driving style/line such as braking limitations, when, where and how you enter a turn and the speed you are able to enter/exit a turn. But also, no car will have the same strengths at every track.
@@fastlanefiends2972 Obviously they are not individual sessions (ITS A RACE YIKES.), and there are many factors to take into account, clearly the NSX has competition tires (unlike the others (except the 360cs,911 gt3), but that does not mean that the other contenders can defend their position, which they clearly do not do. They are not even trying the push hard the european cars.Everything mentioned on your part is taken into account, the ridiculous is the initial thing, the fact is that this dynamic of erring in car contenders of the Japanese is repeated many times:
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The thing is so and so funny that they have made the public believe that an NSX can keep up with an F50:
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And if it is a race as it is evident there is competition, you cannot be there without even defending your position, and not taking the car to its maximum (which clearly the nsx driver does.)
Due to multiple factors that always favor the Japanese on multiple occasions, let me be excessively skeptical and critical with this program.
There are plenty of Best Motoring vids where the NSX doesn't win. I would not expect a Gallardo on regular tyres to be a good track car. Even on the road they were judged by journalists as having too much understeer. It weighs 300kg more than the NSX-R!
It’s this a advertisement for japanese cars??? This race its a joke, the NSX driver cheated in the last corner and many others things happen in the race which make it looks so made up !
They're all Japanese of course, it is biased . Even the lineup is crap
The NSX-R is a capable car but the lap times don't lie, the CS was almost 2 seconds faster with a clear lap, they were stuck too long behind the Gallardo.
@@KaizenSerika It happens that the Gallardo is even faster than the 360CS in this same track
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If this was a fair race anything including the 360 Modena would have walked all over the NSX, let's be real
@@Corvolet5 Because you people are too close-minded and ignorant to understand that 0-60 test always has been a joke and do not really shows cars real potential on track. It’s a marketing material for lazy or non enthusiastic people who don’t want to give a good thought to cars real performance. First of all, NSX was not the fastest car here, it finished P1 because other faster cars was struggling in the battles before they make their way forward, while NSX had a good start from beginning. Secondly, other cars are less suited for such a small course as Motegi than NSX, mostly because they have much longer gear ratios, including final drive. Thirdly, NSX Type R is a track tool with almost no compromises in terms of daily drivability, which makes it lighter and stiffer compered to most of competitors here. It is an obvious advantage in Motegi layout. This fact can lead us to the conclusion that even with more power (but not so dramatically because of P.W.R) competitors don’t have such a huge gap on a straights because top speed really depends on your corner entry, mid cornering and, as a result, in your recovery from corner. After corner recovery there is not enough space to accelerate because straits on this course end really soon and (again) requires shorter gear ratios to be most effective. For instance, in this case NSX will be much faster in recoveries compered to 4WD Gallardo, because Mid-ship layout at this time and at this track layout is far superior in every way compered to 4WD, maybe except 0-60 launches that you people so care about and love to compare. Finally, the guy who was driving NSX was Motoharu Kurosawa, who is a racing veteran and the best driver on this grid. He is also a Honda’s test pilot, who had spend numerous time before with this car and knows its limits precisely, while others cannot drive their cars so comfortably on the edge. Plus all this cars are expensive West exotic with LHD, that can be problematic to Japanese drivers here. This complex of factors gives a great handicap to NSX in THIS PARTICULAR track battle. For instance, if you put a Gallardo in Tsukuba it will obviously not be so effective as in Fuji speedway and contrary to NSX, because different cars are not performing in the same efficient way in every circumstances. You see? It’s not always about HP and cringe 0-60 test. It’s a pity that people like you can’t get that because of your ignorance
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imosible que el nsx salga primero.
I thought the Challenge Stradale and GT3 would just pull away from the field. The guy in the NSX wants it more than any of 'em.
Best motoring is full of bullocks. They always treat they japanese sports car like it is something else. In reality the nsx stands no chance against the euro sports cars.
@@voodoodiecast lol no bias it’s racing. Reverse grid start, and both 360 cs and gt3 got stuck in traffic giving the nsx a chance to create a gap.
@@theupshiftcarblog9555 they are sandbagging euro cars while drove their precious nsx to the limit.
@@voodoodiecast if you knew anything about racing you wouldn't say that. Did you really watch the race? The NSX got lucky with a early overtake of the Gallardo and the stradale got stuck behind the Gallardo way to long holding up the GT3 and the CSL. Leave out the Gallardo and the Modena and modena stradale the race would be very close with the GT3 on top. And did you ever did some research on the NSX-R? Even in 2002 it was in many parts way ahead of it's competition, the Aero was so advanced back then it was what the new GT3 RS is now. It was more downforce and less drag than any of the other cars on the grid and also the NSX-R made more power (like any Japanese cars back then) than what they said (usually around 320-330hp on the wheel) to say Best Motoring is rigged is bullshit, look at the single lap times. A race has so many different factors than just a cars performance and a 100hp advantage is not reall special but a 150kg weight advantage is significant on a track with a capable driver. There are many Best Motoring videos where Porsches are beating Japanese cars and if you had watched the videos you knew that the drivers love the Porsches especially Gan-San the NSX driver. Also Japanese are not like the Germans who think their stuff is the best, Porsche and BMW are one of the most beloved brands in Japan with a huge following. Japan even has their own Porsche Cup same like Germany has. Same goes for the italian brands, Japanese are die hard euro cars fan, this biased JDM fanboy stuff is a european/american thing, that does not exist in Japan because their culture is not comparable to ours and they don't have the western arrogance.
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La Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale était vraiment beaucoup plus rapide.
I like how the NSX quarter mile with a manual is 12.7 and the M3 with more power and a dualclutch does 12.9, you dont need to be a rocket scientist to understand something is very very wrong here, even the Lambo with 500hp does a pretty lame 12.6 despite also having a dual clutch
Dual clutch on the E46? It had a smg gearbox which is a robotic manual, only slightly faster than a manual.
Because Honda is simply the best engineering company. Europeans like to over engineer and then overprice
Weight, combined with highrevving v6, combined short transmission. Put down 300hp like a bosss
Check the numbers of quarter mile in other sources, here it was driven by a pro pilot, and he manage a 0.1 faster quarter mile than the official bmw results so at a point accept that nsx is just faster man 13 seconds 1/4 mile is the official result of bmw, so the acceleration is about the same at low speeds, the cornering and breaking is better on the nsx so where is the problem?
12.3 is the fastest 1/4 mile for the stock lp540 gallardo, here in the video it was a slower version so plz stop blaming best motoring for fake testing, this is probably the best car test channel with pro drivers, so 12.6 it’s a good result for this gallardo probably even faster than the official numbers, it’s not dct transmission from the nowadays BMW
Ils font exprès de laisser gagner la NSX… la Stradale passait sans problème
Nsx are great jdm car
How does the BMW m 3 beat a Ferrari?
it's a CSL
The nsx r is supposed to have 290ps
yes na2 nsx r has 290 hp
it had way more than that in real life.
Bad driver in the BMW !. Let the Porsche to escape and Lambo blocked him all the time