@@gonova8412professional carpenters don't need them unless it's thin hardwood. I can hit one in on an angle without a pilot hole and I'm a damn forklift driver with a few years in construction.
@@larryjohns8823 my comment was not intended as a slide against Ryobi, but to mock his statement that his hammer was a “man’s hammer” when he drove the nail through a hole that was already drilled out
Come on now even with a pre-drilled hole they would be handicapped having to use a 16oz trim hammer like the one used in the video. Old school carpenter my ass
Lol I love how you're such a repressed homosexual you feel the need to bring it up randomly, it's ok to be gay James, you don't need to pretend anymore it's 2023
And please stop pretending you don't have office pansy hands, doubt you've ever held a hammer considering you don't know how to prevent splitting in a bird's mouth, take some time from doing your nails and drive one into a piece of wood instead and you'd know better than to open your mouth
@@burninrubba65every singo3 builder in the uk has one of these. They may have other hammers for heavier work but as we don't use timber framing for structural work most of the time this tends to be fine.
@@User-yy6xt it's ok to never have done framing. Just don't pretend. Even if you did pilot holes almost anywhere in framing look at the grain orientation, where do you think it's gonna split??
He even pronounced Estwing like every other pro carpenter I've seen in all my years in the trades. We never say estwing. We always say Eastwing like God intended.
Had a Eastwing in my kit back when I was an apprentice,it was a gift from my stepdads father!very rare with a red handle in my 3rd yr, Robert the other 3rd yr pinched it off me the bastard... always taking of the aborigines
@@aliceullrish5251 Alice? This might be a little sexist to some people but the numbers don't lie, are you a carpenter? I have a little more than a decade of experience but it didn't take me that long to know how wood works. Especially the cheap framing material that is used today.
When I was 18 I got my first full time job as a home rough framer, the boss walked us into Lowes or home depot, don’t remember which but he gave us a draw on our checks to buy bags, pencil, speed square and a hammer. I picked up a hammer and said this will work.. he laughed saying you need a man’s hammer as picked up a 32 ounce framer. That afternoon my first job was to hand pound 16’s in hurricane ties.
hate the term "rough framming " framing should be done right with clean details. Rough framing makes it hard on every tradesman after your "rough framming "
@@zanaevans7403 you are probably not from America friend. Here we separate the two trades in names only. It’s not a term that means bad quality. I am actually a very good framer. “Rough Framing” is the main structure, while “finish” carpentry is simply that, to finish. Base board, door and window trim, shelving etc. both are important to have high quality.
Almost it's Vermont. 50 something year old carpenter who has seen to much to be impressed by any one thing. For the most part I work alone, then I know it's done right. Call me jaded, but no one seems to take pride in there work anymore. They just want a big pay day. Sacrificing quality for fast cash. At least this guy took the time to predrill the rafter so the toenail won't spilt heel of the rafter. What I build is my legacy, quilty will never be compromised on my jobs. Sorry for calling out rough framers. I do it all foundation to finish. There's my rant.
@@zanaevans7403 no worries, I appreciate you explaining more, and you are right, it seems like our country has lost the self respect and commitment to many principles. Or at least people like you and I are getting harder to find. I retired as a building contractor about 5 years ago and i am disappointed a bit with the quality of workers and their work ethic that I’ve seen over the years and more often. It’s a different world now. Thank you for being a good example and doing things right. You can give the next generation a chance if they are willing to work hard and can remain teachable. All your years of knowledge and experience will be appreciated by the right kids. Good luck my friend!
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
@@jamesmatheson5115 we were required to do it bc all of the lumber was kiln dried and toe nails were splitting the ends. We had to hand drive. Fuckin painstaking.
anyone with experience like this man has knows that hemlock splits when nailing, not like the pine we used to use back in the day. this guy realises this and makes a pilot hole .he is a quality carpenter that knows his stuff.
needed to be said, all these clowns with nail guns and zero experience. i've had decades of experience roofing, forgot more than they will ever know. still sharpen my saws and use a hammer. old school. even use the ready reckoner, haha.gives you all the cuts, as i'm sure you already know.@@BuildingwithBudd
Ready reckoner what a superb bit of kit, I was looking on eBay the others day and the exact same book I have is about £200 it’s not printed in this version anymore, I was shocked, 👏👏👍
christ, i still have mine somewhere, the one with a blue cover. still has my protractor in it. when yer roofin regular , it's a must have bit of kit. gives you all your diminishing lengths of rafters, every cut, different length rafters for different centres. best job in the world in the summer months. my old mate was a brilliant roofer, he would cut a complete roof in the shed. he only needed to know the plate measurements. i had to do all the cutting as i was neat, he had massive hands so was a bit ham fisted. those were the days,@@BuildingwithBudd
A hammer w/wooden handle takes much of the shock of hammering & could keep you from getting carpal tunnel. Learned that from an old carpenter cured my friends numb hand.
If you look a little closer it’s to allow for the plate being not as wide as the brickwork, if you don’t snip that bit out it won’t sit on the wall plate properly, but I guess that’s just me knowing my job, cheers for watching 👍
The brickwork is proud of the wallplate and that timber is likely going to be covered with a soffit anyway. Stick to your timber framed shit houses with felt for roofing and OSB Shell. 😂
It’s actually a ladies hammer. The curved claw makes it so. My straight claw long handle 28oz estwing is a man’s hammer. Not East wing. Back before pneumatic guns were all the rage I had to frame everything with it. Even strapping the ceiling. Tons of fun. Now my big heavy hammer just moves walls and such.
never liked the estwings i always thought them unsafe with that narrow shank and just a bit pricey to boot. came off the bench and got a Stanley 20oz for the transition and i was fine with that for years. spotted an estwing 20oz for silly money one day and figured why not, got it home and grabbed a handful of 4" and 6" nails and a bit of scrapwood and set about knocking them in. could not for the Life of me drive one home without leaving a half crown on it so i binned it to the back of the shed and forgot about it. i was teamed up with this one dude for years in the end but this happened early on. i knew he was qualified but he surely had some massive gaps in his skills, didn't know how to properly hold a hand saw for one and yet his workmanship was far better than almost every 'time served' man i ever saw on site so i had no problem with him at the end of the day. we were studding down in Newquay this one job and he asked to borrow my Stanley so i gave it to him, should have watched him with it, and turned back to what i was doing (on price we had the paslodes out) i cringed when i heard it, he only wanted to use mine to hit his face on to try and pull a tricky nail i very nearly snapped. of course his hammer was fine but mine was chipped so that was that in the skip. that was on a Monday and so as we were first fixing on price i didn't bother buying another over the counter or should i say letting him pay for it instead i told him wait and i brought out the estwing to be going on with. by the end of the first day with it i wasn't marking the timber anymore, even giving the nail that extra tap to punch it just below the surface without crowning the timber so that was me on estwings. that's got to be almost 30 years ago now and it must be 15 since i traded up to the 24oz "English pattern" hammer and enjoyed that even more. traded up again not long after to a 24oz framing hammer and i haven't looked back since. the straight claw and longer shaft is like the brass backing on a tenon saw when doing some tasks with it. seriously lads i would defo recommend them, i even use it glazing just for s***s and giggles.
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@@mattredfern1339 Great, I am now officially 30 years older because I foolishly decided to read your entire comment.
'YES' 'YES SIR' That's absofukinlutely a man's hammer! Great J O B by the way! Yes Sir, an absolute great job of toenailing that galvanized 4 penny nail! Most excellent! Most very supreme job!
Obviously he pre-drilled a hole for the nail, but nobody is mentioning that the hammer he is using is a trim hammer, not a framing hammer. Would get laughed at if I showed up to frame with that little thing
We don't work this way in the uk. The terms trim and framing arnt used. We say first and second fix. Generally if you do the first fix on site you have to do the second as well. We also don't do much if any structural framing beyond roofs so most people do not have the larger framing hammers
@@jamesn0va English here. picked up a 24oz framing hammer with the longer shank and the straight claw years ago for a site hammer, haven't put it down since in fact i still use it when i go on the odd excursion back into the workshop. first fix or second fix makes no odds to i which tapometer i'm picking up. being from a bench background and with plenty of time on yachts since moving to Cornwall 25 years ago i'm known for quality finish work, the decorators Love i, i usually outpace most down here second fixing on price with no drop in workmanship too btw. oh yh and You should see the foreman's face when i glaze with it! rofl Love it i do.
you call that a trim hammer? obviously you don't know much about trim carpentry or hammers. as a carpenter with 52 years of experience I can say with certainty that a trim hammer doesn't need to be heaver than 13 oz and a framing hammer more than 20. oh and by the way, framing guns are the worst thing ever introduced into the industry.
A mate was building a major extension onto his home and he was doing about 60% of the labor himself.He had arranged for the truss roof to be delivered & installed by the contractor and they arrived to start to install the roof and just as he was leaving to go to work he noticed several workers were driving away in their cars and he asked the boss what was going on and he stated that they just realised that the compressor was bust so they couldn’t install the trusses and they’d come back another time. He asked what is wrong with using a hammer etc. to which he replied oh we’ve never done it that way before.SMH !
Now, let us all be a little generous. The feller did hit that nail nice and squarely, like he had done it many times before. Maybe he just never heard of a Framing Hammer. Been framing all these years with a Finish Hammer. That's kinda badass.
I mean honestly a hammer is a hammer i can drive a nail with my 3 pound mallet if i wanted, a 24oz a 20oz hell even a 16 oz doesnt really make a difference its a hammer
@@plack_benis382If you're driving a few dozen nails at a time. If youre driving 4" galvanized all day every day, you need some heavy lumber and a waffle face. Look how many swings he took with that framing hammer with a pilot hole even.
Estwing hammer, best in the business. My dad swears by them and hes been using one for 40+ yrs. The old guys that taught him, told him to get an Estwing. Now I have it. Its still as good as the day it was made.
I built post frame or pole buildings for 12 years. There were nail guns but i preferred to swing a 21oz. Craftsman framer or vaughn. I believe a hammered nail is better then a power driven one.
@@jimmurphy5739 swear I found some of the old videos of him doing his thing a fair few years back and can't lie he was an absolute madman ain't no way on this earth I'd ever take up his trade of steeple jacking because I'd have absolutely shat my pants as soon as I got even a fraction of the way up
I have seen a few comments regarding framing hammers and finishing hammer. Where I am from a 20oz Estwing is sufficient for framing, and for skirting or architrave. I know of a couple of carpenters who use framing hammers, but they have brought them back from the USA. Most young fellas these days can only use naill guns or finishing guns.
Kinda makes me wish I had predrilled holes in the houses we built. Maybe then I would have use a hammer smaller than the 24 Oz california framer used. Will say, using that all day gave ya one hell of a forearm.🙂
@@jimbusmaximus4624what about what it would look like in 15 seconds if you didn't pre drill. It would split right down the grain at the worst spot right at the birds mouth. You'll learn by the time you transition from apprentice to an actual carpenter.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 few things to point out to you here: no because I don't know about you (or the "we" you are talking about) but I along with any other some what decent carpenter are going to use either a battery framer or air compressor and framer. So no need for the pilot hole as long as you know how to properly use one and know where and how to make sure it doesn't split. Hand banging a nail is like using screws, it's going to split most of the time when it's done on the grain and near the edge of the 2 by which it will be at the birds mouth. Next I never did say that you have to do this for every nail along a rafter or ceiling joist. Just that specific area of the birds mouth that is very prone to splitting, which is very important that it doesn't split considering how all the weight of the roof is bearing right on that small area. Also it doesn't involve ceiling joists like you said because they don't have birds mouths because they lay flat across the top plate. Might want to think twice before spouting off nonsense on the internet to a stranger that you have no idea about because they might know quite a bit more about the subject then you do which will make you look like an ignorant child. So yeah, I have spent about the same amount of time on a worksite that you have spent trying to talk about shit rather than doing it.
I inherited a 28-ounce Estwind framing hammer with a milled face from a roofer I beat the crap out of fifty years ago. The milled face is almost smooth after 50 years of driving 16d and 20d nails with it.
My grandfather was a master carpenter in Europe. I never met him as he passed away before I was born but my dad told me his dad would tap a 3” mail to grab and then in one hit it would be in! I’ve tried but no can do
The way it used to be done and how I learned. A hammer and a real nail. Now it's a nail gun and a cheesy wire "nail". Huff puff and I'll blow your house down! "
@@brettwatts3601 Agree. When I did cut roofs, and even trusses, we just drove the nail straight in, and splitting was never a problem... I just thought he was going to demonstrate it in this video.
I have this same hammer passed down from my dad but didn’t know its name. I always loved the simplicity of it. Have you seen some of these daft hammers the yanks use look like they are part of a space ship haha
If you've got the drill out for the pilot hole, anyway, might as well use it to drive in a screw. It's like a nail, except it doesn't pull out of the wood when you look at it wrong.
The problem is his “man’s hammer” is a 16 oz with the hooked claw that looks like a finishing hammer not a framing hammer. And in my opinion, if you want to see a man’s hammer from Estwing google a 25oz … the neck is two to three inches longer than most and the head is bigger than a toonie. Not the best for framing, but cribbing and stripping concrete forms it was the best hammer ever in my opinion
When did it bend? It straightened itself out in the pre drilling hole is all. All the pilot holes was correct. You know nothing. Keep telling it it to the world😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
For real, that shit drives me bananas. I love his energy...."yea you youngins ain't know shit this is a real hammer" then proceeds to mispronounce the name and show off what is without question the most common hammer in the world.
After cracking a knuckle or two with those estwings I went back to wood. 28 oz. Vaughn on an 18 inch oak handle. I never had to tell a neil three times or pilot the holes first.
Old school is still the best! I’ve seen the cookie cutter houses inside and out, and as a lifelong student of hammering nails - I wouldn’t live in one of those rat traps for a billion dollars
@@TurnipGreen Not for a billion dollars. I’m very happy in my small corner of the world, living an ordinary life, and my family and I are as happy as clams!
Predrilled creates a tighter connection between the two pieces of wood. Its not to make it easier to hit. It also ensure the nail follows the best angle rather than diverting with the grain.
@@markdudley1028 Im not saying it should be done in industry, just that the nail only has to be tight in the piece that you attaching to for a strong fix.
I was told decades ago that the hammer got its name from a prisoner who invented the design and named it east wing from the block he was serving in!. Who knows!!.. but I do know that if you tap the point of a nail it won’t split the wood. 👍
Man's hammer? It's a smooth face, curled claw... It's made for trim... A man's hammer is a milled face, hickory handle, straight claw. I know, I'm the man who used to use one everyday! 🇺🇸💪🏻
That is a curve claw hammer. I'm pretty sure every contractor I've ever worked for would offer to help you out, by personally throwing that as far as they could. And, then say" don't ever bring a cobblers hammer to my job site again. "
Ya in canada we got same ones 4inch common bright 4inch common galvanized Then ya got ur 4inch common electro galvenized when I here Americans talk about these ring shank 14 penny I'm like f@cked if I know bud I'm from Canada eh
Over here in the UK , using proper nails is almost a crime , it’s all nail guns , if you bang in a four inch nail it ain’t coming out, these nail guns you can pull the timber apart with no real effort, cheers for watching 👏👏👍
A man's hammer doesn't need a pilot hole.
4 inch galvys each side of a birds mouth need pilot holes or it will just split
Yep
Well said 👌💪
@@rbruce5270 No it wont.
Someone has never swung a hammer. And yes, that is a man's hammer.
Did you really think we wouldn’t notice the pilot hole , lol.
Good observation. Now try noticing why that’s the right thing to do. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@gonova8412 it’s actually not it’s a ridiculous waste of time.
Clearly you can’t start a nail and drive it home.
Learn how to use a hammer momo
@@gonova8412professional carpenters don't need them unless it's thin hardwood. I can hit one in on an angle without a pilot hole and I'm a damn forklift driver with a few years in construction.
Sometimes pilot holes are necessary to prevent the wood from splitting, but in this case it likely wasn't needed.
@@_--____--______--___ he was showing his manly and easy it is to hammer that nail...through a hole that's already there😅
Just make sure to bring your big boy drill so that you can make your pilot hole before using your big boy hammer.
I love the pilot hole re-directs the angle at which he’s driving the nail about 1 swing in.
And this is a man’s drill, a Ryobi. It is for drilling pilot holes for nails.
Isn't Ryobi for DIY?
@@sketch1985Garbage tools to match this garbage video.
Let's say you may get what you pay for. Sometimes the gap between price and performance is not worth the extra cost.
@@larryjohns8823 my comment was not intended as a slide against Ryobi, but to mock his statement that his hammer was a “man’s hammer” when he drove the nail through a hole that was already drilled out
@@larryjohns8823ryobi is only slightly cheaper than trusted brands , its not worth the money .
For the record, a 10 year old could drive a 4" nail with a predrilled hole.
My 3 year old son probably could lol
shush 🤫 they'll never know
Come on now even with a pre-drilled hole they would be handicapped having to use a 16oz trim hammer like the one used in the video. Old school carpenter my ass
@ericdevarney4089 it's a 20oz hammer
Wonder if he pre-drills all his holes before nailing 😂
“This here is a 16 penny nail. You can drive it with 1 lick, or 2 licks.” RIP the great Larry Haun.
16 penny nail is half the gauge of a 4" galv nail in the UK
Oooh a galvanized nail. What a man. Never seen that before.
Nobody has ever galvanised nails before, its tech we weren't ready for 😂 wait till he sees copper nails for the first time.
Not sure who his target audience was here. Very strange.
He called it an "eastwing" and has a pilot hole. Wonder if his husband is a builder!
Well said
I came here to day that. Fucking "eastwing" lmao
I doubt he has a husband, but his wife's boyfriend probably is a builder.
Lol I love how you're such a repressed homosexual you feel the need to bring it up randomly, it's ok to be gay James, you don't need to pretend anymore it's 2023
And please stop pretending you don't have office pansy hands, doubt you've ever held a hammer considering you don't know how to prevent splitting in a bird's mouth, take some time from doing your nails and drive one into a piece of wood instead and you'd know better than to open your mouth
A mans hammer has a straight claw and no pilot holes
Curved claw was the first sign this guy sweeps up for the crew
Curved claw hammers are for women lol
@@burninrubba65every singo3 builder in the uk has one of these. They may have other hammers for heavier work but as we don't use timber framing for structural work most of the time this tends to be fine.
@burninrubba65 it depends for us roofers stripping battens off an old roof is way easier for leverage, the right tool for the job and all that.
That's a finish hammer not a framing hammer
While the man proceeds to hammer a nail through an already drilled pilot hole. Lmao😂
When I’m sticking framing a roof I don’t carry a drill on a ladder! Walk the plate like a man with a handful of 16 sinkers and let em eat!
I wasn’t questioning his manliness until he showed me
Damn sure doesn't have blue or metal handle.
He showed you that pilot hole. 😂
@@crabbinmoose8583takes a lot of work to do it the right way. A pilot keeps the wood from splitting.
@@User-yy6xt it's ok to never have done framing. Just don't pretend.
Even if you did pilot holes almost anywhere in framing look at the grain orientation, where do you think it's gonna split??
@@miles11we you ve never framed if you did you wouldn’t ask that question
You mean to tell me for 40 years I've been swinging a hammer. I could have just dropped it in a hole. Aint no way. Paaaa
Luv that dude 😂
You need to buy the predrilled wood. It's for a maaannnn.
Quality
English. Don't copy a gimmick
My dad was an American carpenter, I watched him frame houses, he’d drive 4” galvies in two hits ALL DAY. Tap BOOM. Tap BOOM. Tap BOOM. Two hits. Man.
Prolly drove his 4 inch Galvie into you after work too
I bet you are English.
Thats three hits
He never said he could count.@@shaunmcloughlin1233
I counted 3 😅
He even pronounced Estwing like every other pro carpenter I've seen in all my years in the trades. We never say estwing. We always say Eastwing like God intended.
👏👏👍
Had a Eastwing in my kit back when I was an apprentice,it was a gift from my stepdads father!very rare with a red handle in my 3rd yr, Robert the other 3rd yr pinched it off me the bastard... always taking of the aborigines
As a carpenter, I approve this comment section. 👌🏻
I was saying the same thing. All these heavy hitters out here on the keyboards 😂 so hilarious
Same lol for once I'm happy about the comments
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This guy is probably community college certified.
I approve your approval sir
Insane how that nail straightened itself up after a few hits. Lined right up in that pilot
Yeah because if you don't drill a pilot hole on the birds mouth it will split right down the grain at the worst spot
@@lucastudor5536 no it won’t.
@@aliceullrish5251 Alice? This might be a little sexist to some people but the numbers don't lie, are you a carpenter? I have a little more than a decade of experience but it didn't take me that long to know how wood works. Especially the cheap framing material that is used today.
@@lucastudor5536 facts especially on those thicker penny nails it’s just dumb to not pre drill
@@GTYS38 new to carpentry? Because you are ignoring it.
No folks, that's a 16oz Estwing and a man's hammer is a 20oz Estwing.
28oz*
When I was 18 I got my first full time job as a home rough framer, the boss walked us into Lowes or home depot, don’t remember which but he gave us a draw on our checks to buy bags, pencil, speed square and a hammer. I picked up a hammer and said this will work.. he laughed saying you need a man’s hammer as picked up a 32 ounce framer. That afternoon my first job was to hand pound 16’s in hurricane ties.
hate the term "rough framming " framing should be done right with clean details. Rough framing makes it hard on every tradesman after your "rough framming "
@@zanaevans7403 you are probably not from America friend. Here we separate the two trades in names only. It’s not a term that means bad quality. I am actually a very good framer. “Rough Framing” is the main structure, while “finish” carpentry is simply that, to finish. Base board, door and window trim, shelving etc. both are important to have high quality.
Almost it's Vermont. 50 something year old carpenter who has seen to much to be impressed by any one thing. For the most part I work alone, then I know it's done right. Call me jaded, but no one seems to take pride in there work anymore. They just want a big pay day. Sacrificing quality for fast cash. At least this guy took the time to predrill the rafter so the toenail won't spilt heel of the rafter. What I build is my legacy, quilty will never be compromised on my jobs. Sorry for calling out rough framers. I do it all foundation to finish. There's my rant.
@@zanaevans7403 no worries, I appreciate you explaining more, and you are right, it seems like our country has lost the self respect and commitment to many principles. Or at least people like you and I are getting harder to find. I retired as a building contractor about 5 years ago and i am disappointed a bit with the quality of workers and their work ethic that I’ve seen over the years and more often. It’s a different world now. Thank you for being a good example and doing things right. You can give the next generation a chance if they are willing to work hard and can remain teachable. All your years of knowledge and experience will be appreciated by the right kids. Good luck my friend!
32 is too much for starters.its better to have a good 20/22..then save for a stilleto
Looks pre-drilled?
so it doesnt split
Deep pre drill, since he bent the nail but it followed the pilot hole.
@@rbruce5270 yes but you have variations of using or not,
exactly
Lol yep
At work, when it takes that many swings to drive a nail thru a pilot hole we tell ‘em to hit it with their purse.
😂😂😂
😂 I tell the new guy to hit it like it owes him money lol
@@jaywiebe7612 omg 😂😂😅
3 tap max. 💯
@@engineeringartist4801 tap-tap-sink.
I cant believe this guy has not deleted this video out of shame. What a legend
I have a feeling its a wind up
😂
When I used nails in black and white telly days, I used a 3lb hammer. Boy did the nails sing.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
This was funny 8 years ago and about 850.000 times ago
Still funny
Got me to laugh
Great comment!
I heard they were gonna overnight em from Japan
Never seen a Carpenter pre drill Pine before.
😂
I’ve been required to do it on school builds.
@@maxwellblakely7952 Sounds strange thing to have to do, so would you still pre drill if you were using a nail gun, dont think so.
@@jamesmatheson5115 we were required to do it bc all of the lumber was kiln dried and toe nails were splitting the ends. We had to hand drive. Fuckin painstaking.
I never seen a carpenter use a nail before.
Worked construction for a while, years ago. Carried an Estwing, 28 oz waffle faced straight claw hammer. Drives 10's and 20's really easy.
anyone with experience like this man has knows that hemlock splits when nailing, not like the pine we used to use back in the day. this guy realises this and makes a pilot hole .he is a quality carpenter that knows his stuff.
Respect sir 👏👏
needed to be said, all these clowns with nail guns and zero experience. i've had decades of experience roofing, forgot more than they will ever know. still sharpen my saws and use a hammer. old school. even use the ready reckoner, haha.gives you all the cuts, as i'm sure you already know.@@BuildingwithBudd
Ready reckoner what a superb bit of kit, I was looking on eBay the others day and the exact same book I have is about £200 it’s not printed in this version anymore, I was shocked, 👏👏👍
christ, i still have mine somewhere, the one with a blue cover. still has my protractor in it. when yer roofin regular , it's a must have bit of kit. gives you all your diminishing lengths of rafters, every cut, different length rafters for different centres. best job in the world in the summer months. my old mate was a brilliant roofer, he would cut a complete roof in the shed. he only needed to know the plate measurements. i had to do all the cutting as i was neat, he had massive hands so was a bit ham fisted. those were the days,@@BuildingwithBudd
That’s the one with the blue cover 👍👍
Amazing how that hammer even makes the nail straighten up
Lol
Shame you don’t know how a pilot hole works
Its all in the wrist. I mess mine up all the time... Im clumsy with a hammer, hating to admit it. I prefer screws
It’s pre drilled
40 years of hitting nails and this is all he has to offer
This made me laugh out loud 🤣
Driving a nail into a pilot hole too
So fucking rude
@@simonmasters3295 what's rude? The fact that this is a bogus video.
🤣🤣🤣
Dude is a master troller. He didn't get those hands by predrilling all his holes. Lol how riled up he got us though
A hammer w/wooden handle takes much of the shock of hammering & could keep you from getting carpal tunnel. Learned that from an old carpenter cured my friends numb hand.
My dad was an old school chippy. Roofs ,studding etc. Never met a man since who could swing a hammer like him. The power and accuracy was astounding .
My Dad was the same. All in one motion he could pound in a 16 penny nail with one swing over and over setting rafters walking the exterior wall.
Pop, biff biff. Next. Forearm like Popeye. Time was money with the old school crew.
Clearly all three of you work in a call center or don't work at all. News flash hammers as still used.
Do that all day everyday and anyone will get good at it
Those self aligning nails are quality
Man Knows What A Good Hammer is. 16 LB ESTWING DROVE ALL OVER LOOKING FOR ONE WAS $38.00. 35 YEARS AGO.
2 words. Hans Brothers. They would hit that nail no more than twice with a 1970s hammer!
I don't give a s*** who you are you're not going to be able to swing a hammer two times and put in 16 penny nails all day long
Shocking! Who knew you could drive a nail into wood with a hammer!?
The masters of the craft do it with two blows maximum.
I love the birds mouth that was cut & re-cut lol below the pilot hole you drilled for the nail 😂
If you look a little closer it’s to allow for the plate being not as wide as the brickwork, if you don’t snip that bit out it won’t sit on the wall plate properly, but I guess that’s just me knowing my job, cheers for watching 👍
The brickwork is proud of the wallplate and that timber is likely going to be covered with a soffit anyway.
Stick to your timber framed shit houses with felt for roofing and OSB Shell. 😂
thats fair, but why wouldnt you just make the plate flush with the exterior? only thinking thatd save that extra cut@@BuildingwithBudd
Sorry but if you look closely the brickwork is proud of the plate.
It’s actually a ladies hammer. The curved claw makes it so. My straight claw long handle 28oz estwing is a man’s hammer. Not East wing. Back before pneumatic guns were all the rage I had to frame everything with it. Even strapping the ceiling. Tons of fun. Now my big heavy hammer just moves walls and such.
I have that exact hammer. It’s one of the only tools I took from my father’s house after he passed away.
Bet he pulled that nail straight outta his purse judging by the predrilled nailhole in a soft wood😂
It's not even a framing hammer. Hahaha finish Hammer (and a lame one at that) with a smooth face and a hooked claw. 😅😂😂
Then he edited the vid right when he glanced off the nail and put a pecker track in the wood.
Been a carpenter for 50 years and the Estwing 22 oz is all I have ever used. In my opinion, it's the best
They are great, a tip another 50-year carpenter gave me about 40 years ago. A tool destined for your estate sale. Hammer on, brother.
never liked the estwings i always thought them unsafe with that narrow shank and just a bit pricey to boot.
came off the bench and got a Stanley 20oz for the transition and i was fine with that for years.
spotted an estwing 20oz for silly money one day and figured why not, got it home and grabbed a handful of 4" and 6" nails and a bit of scrapwood and set about knocking them in.
could not for the Life of me drive one home without leaving a half crown on it so i binned it to the back of the shed and forgot about it.
i was teamed up with this one dude for years in the end but this happened early on.
i knew he was qualified but he surely had some massive gaps in his skills, didn't know how to properly hold a hand saw for one and yet his workmanship was far better than almost every 'time served' man i ever saw on site so i had no problem with him at the end of the day.
we were studding down in Newquay this one job and he asked to borrow my Stanley so i gave it to him, should have watched him with it, and turned back to what i was doing (on price we had the paslodes out) i cringed when i heard it, he only wanted to use mine to hit his face on to try and pull a tricky nail i very nearly snapped.
of course his hammer was fine but mine was chipped so that was that in the skip.
that was on a Monday and so as we were first fixing on price i didn't bother buying another over the counter or should i say letting him pay for it instead i told him wait and i brought out the estwing to be going on with.
by the end of the first day with it i wasn't marking the timber anymore, even giving the nail that extra tap to punch it just below the surface without crowning the timber so that was me on estwings.
that's got to be almost 30 years ago now and it must be 15 since i traded up to the 24oz "English pattern" hammer and enjoyed that even more.
traded up again not long after to a 24oz framing hammer and i haven't looked back since.
the straight claw and longer shaft is like the brass backing on a tenon saw when doing some tasks with it.
seriously lads i would defo recommend them, i even use it glazing just for s***s and giggles.
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Great, I am now officially 30 years older because I foolishly decided to read your entire comment.
@@mattredfern1339I use the narrow shank for splitting stuff.
@ Yeah, the wind just blows and blows.
Amazing how that hammer can change the angle of the nail mid-swing
'YES' 'YES SIR'
That's absofukinlutely a man's hammer!
Great J O B by the way!
Yes Sir, an absolute great job of toenailing that galvanized 4 penny nail! Most excellent! Most very supreme job!
Obviously he pre-drilled a hole for the nail, but nobody is mentioning that the hammer he is using is a trim hammer, not a framing hammer. Would get laughed at if I showed up to frame with that little thing
I use a 19oz California framer every day, and so do most framers I know.
We don't work this way in the uk. The terms trim and framing arnt used. We say first and second fix. Generally if you do the first fix on site you have to do the second as well. We also don't do much if any structural framing beyond roofs so most people do not have the larger framing hammers
@@jamesn0va English here.
picked up a 24oz framing hammer with the longer shank and the straight claw years ago for a site hammer, haven't put it down since in fact i still use it when i go on the odd excursion back into the workshop.
first fix or second fix makes no odds to i which tapometer i'm picking up.
being from a bench background and with plenty of time on yachts since moving to Cornwall 25 years ago i'm known for quality finish work, the decorators Love i, i usually outpace most down here second fixing on price with no drop in workmanship too btw.
oh yh and You should see the foreman's face when i glaze with it! rofl
Love it i do.
you call that a trim hammer? obviously you don't know much about trim carpentry or hammers. as a carpenter with 52 years of experience I can say with certainty that a trim hammer doesn't need to be heaver than 13 oz and a framing hammer more than 20.
oh and by the way, framing guns are the worst thing ever introduced into the industry.
@@3thomasdm15-16oz large framing hammers are becoming as common as framing guns
A mate was building a major extension onto his home and he was doing about 60% of the labor himself.He had arranged for the truss roof to be delivered & installed by the contractor and they arrived to start to install the roof and just as he was leaving to go to work he noticed several workers were driving away in their cars and he asked the boss what was going on and he stated that they just realised that the compressor was bust so they couldn’t install the trusses and they’d come back another time. He asked what is wrong with using a hammer etc. to which he replied oh we’ve never done it that way before.SMH !
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A true carpenter doesn't need to predrill.
That is a nice birds mouth cut. That person running the saw needs to be congratulated for having the proper angles on cuts.
Well said 👍👍
Now, let us all be a little generous. The feller did hit that nail nice and squarely, like he had done it many times before. Maybe he just never heard of a Framing Hammer. Been framing all these years with a Finish Hammer. That's kinda badass.
@@gonova8412 So you drill Pilot holes for driving Framing nails. I bet that's 1000% true. And you think, my comment, is idiotic.
I mean honestly a hammer is a hammer i can drive a nail with my 3 pound mallet if i wanted, a 24oz a 20oz hell even a 16 oz doesnt really make a difference its a hammer
That's why he needed ten whacks at it even with a pilot hole.
@@plack_benis382If you're driving a few dozen nails at a time. If youre driving 4" galvanized all day every day, you need some heavy lumber and a waffle face. Look how many swings he took with that framing hammer with a pilot hole even.
@joxyjoxyjoxy1 You don't need anything but a good swing, it can be easier with a bigger hammer but it can be done with any.
Pre-drilling for a spiked nail stops the wood from splitting
Homie pre-drilled a hole…lmfao
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Roar! This is a man's hammer, it's a drill pilot holes and drives nails in one go!
Real old timers would set that nail in two strokes. I've seen it done over and over again.
Love brilliant, I’ve been brought by the old school , just like the he clip . Will said fantastic 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you Estwing, for all the tendinitis in my elbow
Estwing hammer, best in the business. My dad swears by them and hes been using one for 40+ yrs. The old guys that taught him, told him to get an Estwing. Now I have it. Its still as good as the day it was made.
Threw my Estwing away when I bought my Vaughn. My forearms thank me everyday, no more hammer shock of a steel handle.
Both prestigious products from under the banner of Made in the USA. YeeeeeHAW!@@ericdevarney4089
Good for scraping concrete off forms and destroying your elbow.
Here in AMERICA we don't use pilot holes measure our nails or talk about our hammers we just get it done!!
Yep no forethought or planning just tear into it like a bull in a china shop!😎🤣🤣🖕
Set and send!
r. We get “r” done
Where are your videos then?
When you make a UA-cam video people generally want some description or explanation for context.
Thought you just played with your little toy cars full time.
I built post frame or pole buildings for 12 years. There were nail guns but i preferred to swing a 21oz. Craftsman framer or vaughn. I believe a hammered nail is better then a power driven one.
Not to mention he's hitting the nail like it his back. DRIVE THE FUCKING NAIL ALREADY!
You just know he has a ciggy hanging out his mouth and never tidies up.
Dfkm smoke in the video on God
A ciggy with a three inch ash on it.
This is how Fred Dibna probably hammered nails (if his hands got tired.)
Search him up. Worth a look.
😂😂😂😂👏🏼 you know it
@@jimmurphy5739 swear I found some of the old videos of him doing his thing a fair few years back and can't lie he was an absolute madman ain't no way on this earth I'd ever take up his trade of steeple jacking because I'd have absolutely shat my pants as soon as I got even a fraction of the way up
I have seen a few comments regarding framing hammers and finishing hammer. Where I am from a 20oz Estwing is sufficient for framing, and for skirting or architrave. I know of a couple of carpenters who use framing hammers, but they have brought them back from the USA. Most young fellas these days can only use naill guns or finishing guns.
Heeeeeez Spartacus
Spartacus...
The world's greatest concrete finisher
A man’s hammer and a pre-drilled hole, jog on grandad😆
Kinda makes me wish I had predrilled holes in the houses we built. Maybe then I would have use a hammer smaller than the 24 Oz california framer used. Will say, using that all day gave ya one hell of a forearm.🙂
That's the same hammer I swung back in the day. I liked the wooden handle better than the rubber.
You wouldn't be wanting those holes drilled if you saw what it looked like in 15 years.
@@jimbusmaximus4624what about what it would look like in 15 seconds if you didn't pre drill. It would split right down the grain at the worst spot right at the birds mouth. You'll learn by the time you transition from apprentice to an actual carpenter.
@@lucastudor5536 if you think we predrill pilot holes into all rafters and ceiling joists you've never been NEAR a single job site.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 few things to point out to you here: no because I don't know about you (or the "we" you are talking about) but I along with any other some what decent carpenter are going to use either a battery framer or air compressor and framer. So no need for the pilot hole as long as you know how to properly use one and know where and how to make sure it doesn't split. Hand banging a nail is like using screws, it's going to split most of the time when it's done on the grain and near the edge of the 2 by which it will be at the birds mouth. Next I never did say that you have to do this for every nail along a rafter or ceiling joist. Just that specific area of the birds mouth that is very prone to splitting, which is very important that it doesn't split considering how all the weight of the roof is bearing right on that small area. Also it doesn't involve ceiling joists like you said because they don't have birds mouths because they lay flat across the top plate. Might want to think twice before spouting off nonsense on the internet to a stranger that you have no idea about because they might know quite a bit more about the subject then you do which will make you look like an ignorant child. So yeah, I have spent about the same amount of time on a worksite that you have spent trying to talk about shit rather than doing it.
I inherited a 28-ounce Estwind framing hammer with a milled face from a roofer I beat the crap out of fifty years ago. The milled face is almost smooth after 50 years of driving 16d and 20d nails with it.
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My grandfather was a master carpenter in Europe. I never met him as he passed away before I was born but my dad told me his dad would tap a 3” mail to grab and then in one hit it would be in! I’ve tried but no can do
I can’t as well 👍
Good thing I found this video or I never would have figured out how my hammer is meant to be used 🤨
my daddy left me hi hammer in his will but there were no instructions with it
The way it used to be done and how I learned. A hammer and a real nail. Now it's a nail gun and a cheesy wire "nail". Huff puff and I'll blow your house down! "
Yup. So you must know the reason for the pilot hole then. These comments are actually sad.
@@gonova8412 Pilot hole is his thing not mine. I just learned how to build shit to last.
yeah, I used to drive nails like that until a master carpenter showed me the correct way to swing a hammer.
Tell it true! I bought my Eastwing hammer when I was 17 yrs old, at 61 yrs it still works great and I use it all the time! Great product!
He hits it like a sparky.
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Thought he was going to spin the nail round,and flatten the point, to reduce the chance of splitting the wood.
He didn't need to because he pre drilled a pilot hole.
Great trick though
Wood that thick wood not split
Wood be better with a stainless steel trox screw,easy to remove if needed ,quieter to drive in
@@brettwatts3601 Agree. When I did cut roofs, and even trusses, we just drove the nail straight in, and splitting was never a problem... I just thought he was going to demonstrate it in this video.
..... never seen anyone drill pilot holes for nails before
Now you have 👍😂
Did plans specify pre-drill or do you do it as precaution? @@BuildingwithBudd
Nor anyone needing 10 hits to drive a predrilled 4", even galvanised
I have this same hammer passed down from my dad but didn’t know its name. I always loved the simplicity of it. Have you seen some of these daft hammers the yanks use look like they are part of a space ship haha
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If you've got the drill out for the pilot hole, anyway, might as well use it to drive in a screw. It's like a nail, except it doesn't pull out of the wood when you look at it wrong.
No man has to swing his hammer so many times for one nail.
Sad but true
A predrilled nail!...
The problem is his “man’s hammer” is a 16 oz with the hooked claw that looks like a finishing hammer not a framing hammer.
And in my opinion, if you want to see a man’s hammer from Estwing google a 25oz … the neck is two to three inches longer than most and the head is bigger than a toonie. Not the best for framing, but cribbing and stripping concrete forms it was the best hammer ever in my opinion
Old boy showing us how to predrill a hole and still bend a nail
When did it bend? It straightened itself out in the pre drilling hole is all. All the pilot holes was correct. You know nothing. Keep telling it it to the world😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@gonova8412 weird, you're the only person who thinks otherwise.
Always put a slight bend in the nail then it will turn down and be solid instead of on a complete angle
Extraordinary. I never thought I'd live to see a nail being hammered into a piece of wood.
Pre drilled hole and it still took 10 hits to drive it home
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Might aswell screw it if you've got your drills handy to drill pilot holes
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Screws shear, nails bend. Nails have to be used in framing
@@Critical_Rickand nails do nothing when there's a pilot hole
@@Critical_RickAll depends on the screw.
@And the material.
That hammer is for starter carpenters
I’m a 40 year starter 👍
Men don't need pilot hole, but good hammer choice
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I love how everyone calls it Eastwing😂
For real, that shit drives me bananas. I love his energy...."yea you youngins ain't know shit this is a real hammer" then proceeds to mispronounce the name and show off what is without question the most common hammer in the world.
So funny! We know!
Bugged me for ages too 😆
Estwing comes from the midwest
Still pronounced that way. Estwing.🤷
After cracking a knuckle or two with those estwings I went back to wood. 28 oz. Vaughn on an 18 inch oak handle. I never had to tell a neil three times or pilot the holes first.
Wat u got against hickory handle
@@joek3697 nothing. I bought the head and made the handle. With a broken thumb from the Estwing, which I donated to a laborer we hired.
👍 Vaughn
Love my California framer Vaughn also weighing in at 28oz.
Fiberglass is what any any swinger would go to
I swang a framing hammer just like that for years! They don’t know how good they got it today!
What a Carpenter! He managed to hammer a nail in, well done!
Old school is still the best! I’ve seen the cookie cutter houses inside and out, and as a lifelong student of hammering nails - I wouldn’t live in one of those rat traps for a billion dollars
Well.....for a billion dollars 😒
@@TurnipGreen
Not for a billion dollars. I’m very happy in my small corner of the world, living an ordinary life, and my family and I are as happy as clams!
@Trapper_Creek_2024 LOL....I'm just sayin. If they're giving out a billion dollars with a cookie cutter house attached to it, I might take one ❤️
@@TurnipGreen
A lot of people do, until 5 years in when all the problems start.
No thanks.
Predrilled creates a tighter connection between the two pieces of wood. Its not to make it easier to hit. It also ensure the nail follows the best angle rather than diverting with the grain.
I've never ever seen a roofer pre drill holes. Rarely see any kind of drill at this stage.
Hmmmmmm!
@@narrowgoat-scout because everyone uses nail guns and they are more concerned about quantity over quality
@@markdudley1028 Im not saying it should be done in industry, just that the nail only has to be tight in the piece that you attaching to for a strong fix.
My uncle had an estwing. When he died, guess who got it.... still got it. But he would hit it in in 3 hits. 2 full hits and one half hit
That’s a woman’s hammer
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Bigger hammers in thorntons toffee shops 🤣😅
Man's hammer lol you need a straight claw 28oz framing hammer that curved claw is for shoe repair.
looks like a transgender hammer i see all the lady boys at my local site with them
Simple but so funny
I was told decades ago that the hammer got its name from a prisoner who invented the design and named it east wing from the block he was serving in!. Who knows!!.. but I do know that if you tap the point of a nail it won’t split the wood. 👍
Looks like a 16oz toy hammer.28oz framing is the way to go .
Man's hammer? It's a smooth face, curled claw... It's made for trim... A man's hammer is a milled face, hickory handle, straight claw. I know, I'm the man who used to use one everyday! 🇺🇸💪🏻
See ya at the butcher shop
I filed down the milled face on my framer. no matter what kind of nail I started with, on the second swing, it was a pin nail.
he hammered a nail with a hammer 🤯 who'd have thought it possible?😲 u must be some kinda of legend to do that, especially with a pre drilled hole 😂😂
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You fool
You little fool
@@gonova8412 who hurt you!?🤣
Someone give this guy a paslode, it’ll basically pay for itself off one job. Smarter not harder
you need to leave 20th century behind 😂😂😂
I haven’t got there yet apparently I’m still in the Stone Age 😂👍
That is a curve claw hammer.
I'm pretty sure every contractor I've ever worked for would offer to help you out, by personally throwing that as far as they could. And, then say" don't ever bring a cobblers hammer to my job site again. "
probably a 20 oz hammer at that ...I gave one of those to my daughter when she was 7 lol
Hand that guy an Estwing Framing hammer 🔨
I frame with a curve claw theres times when its useful
Well I have not seen a galvanized nail you got me there
Up until a few years ago that all we used 👍
Ya in canada we got same ones 4inch common bright
4inch common galvanized
Then ya got ur 4inch common electro galvenized when I here Americans talk about these ring shank 14 penny I'm like f@cked if I know bud I'm from Canada eh
Over here in the UK , using proper nails is almost a crime , it’s all nail guns , if you bang in a four inch nail it ain’t coming out, these nail guns you can pull the timber apart with no real effort, cheers for watching 👏👏👍
Sorry buddy, maybe a 22-ounce Vaughn but that little eastwing is my grandmother's hammer.
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That's all right. Larry Haun taught me a good framer can knock a nail in less than three hits. And with a framing hammer