The technique that revolutionized SM64 Speedrunning

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • Super Mario 64 Speedrunners are always on the lookout for speedrun tricks & skips to help them collect 16 Stars / 120 Stars as fast as possible. This speedrun trick was actually hidden in plain sight!
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  • @SpectreXS
    @SpectreXS Рік тому +467

    I always appreciate when you do these mini lore-style video about SM64's techniques that might not be so obvious for the audience. Also a good, fun way to document these things. Keep them coming!

    • @Ugweichifu
      @Ugweichifu Рік тому +2

      This is absolutely right. Simply, you are a man of the people

    • @snowob
      @snowob Рік тому +2

      where can i find other ones like these he's made?

  • @doctorreed_
    @doctorreed_ Рік тому +40

    2:56 i was not ready for the footage to hit thirty billion frames per second

  • @MrCinnamonWhale
    @MrCinnamonWhale Рік тому +114

    Shoutout to Simpleflips for being semi consistent with forward side-flips

  • @jeremyhorvath2052
    @jeremyhorvath2052 Рік тому +25

    Simpleflips ahead of his time with the forward sideflip

  • @tyhiggz38
    @tyhiggz38 Рік тому +12

    Shoutouts to simpleflips’ frontflips

  • @Farkonso
    @Farkonso Рік тому +8

    I remember simpleflips doing forward sideflips a lot in old videos

  • @theguest103
    @theguest103 Рік тому +8

    Wow..I found speed kicking on my own around the same time the speed running community did, in 2014. There were a lot of good romhacks releasing, and throughout gameplay, I kept getting weirdly long kicks while trying to start a triple jump chain..I realized that by holding a little away from neutral it was possible to conserve a lot of speed. I love how every time I play sm64, there's something new to learn about it's movement. I know so much about sm64 these days that it's hard to imagine anything new, but it's always something I've never considered before that surprises me.

  • @diodebridge
    @diodebridge Рік тому +163

    Hearing simply speak is uncanny. You can tell he knows he doesn't exist yet continues to talk without even cracking a smirk.

    • @LorenzJahn
      @LorenzJahn Рік тому +6

      ?

    • @FilthyCasual268
      @FilthyCasual268 Рік тому +20

      How many people do you know in real life that get tens of thousands of views on every video they upload to UA-cam? How many people do you know in real life that get fewer than tens of thousands of views on every video they upload to UA-cam? How many people do you know in real life that have never uploaded a single video to UA-cam? How many of them actually exist, and for those that don't exist, what are any of them supposed to do to be able to actually exist?

    • @LorenzJahn
      @LorenzJahn Рік тому

      ?

    • @lemonke8132
      @lemonke8132 Рік тому

      ?

    • @Will31999
      @Will31999 Рік тому

      ?

  • @youreyesarebleeding1368
    @youreyesarebleeding1368 Рік тому +12

    Siglemic is the GOAT of sm64, nobody can change my mind. His times might not be the best anymore, but his talent was undeniable and his streams were an unforgettable experience. It'll never be 2012-2014

  • @DMMDestroyer
    @DMMDestroyer Рік тому +50

    Thanks for explaining this, Simply. It shows how complex it is and how much further is still to go. Imagine watching a runner essentially doing a TAS for WR with frontflips.

  • @josk8936
    @josk8936 Рік тому +92

    This is the first time I've seen someone using frame interpolation right! Adding to the Viewer experience with slow motion shots, great job simply and oknem ;)!!

    • @metallsnubben
      @metallsnubben Рік тому +7

      Shoutouts to oknem the editor

    • @marclink0
      @marclink0 Рік тому +14

      Oh that's how the gameplay looked like it was 60 fps. That threw me off

    • @snowob
      @snowob Рік тому +8

      it looks bad imo

  • @lumensmith9787
    @lumensmith9787 Рік тому +1

    I love how one bit of knowledge turned speedkicks from a risky way to save tiny bits of time to a spacing technique that made a lot of strategies safer. It's like it turned from trick to tool.

  • @wesdogg_
    @wesdogg_ Рік тому +8

    thanks for the quick history lesson! I don't know how you got old Siglemic footage to play so fluidly in slo-mo, but that looked amazing!

  • @ericwallhagen3146
    @ericwallhagen3146 Рік тому +3

    More of this stuff. Your SSL reds video is honestly what got me into following SM64, and speed running in general.

  • @twig7219
    @twig7219 Рік тому +6

    Cool vid. It would be cool to see a video for C-Up slide as well - it's really funny to me how a camera input can somehow be used for movement lol.

  • @ricerocketrider4243
    @ricerocketrider4243 Рік тому +3

    Appreciate the video. I miss the videos you did years ago that covered speedrun tech, route development and history of SM64 speed running.

  • @WillBarker
    @WillBarker Рік тому +2

    these are by far your most valuable kinds of videos. i dont see coverage of SM64 like this anywhere else. MOREMOREMORE

  • @nyanezt9636
    @nyanezt9636 Рік тому +1

    i like how you explained the technique very early into the video and i liked the concise nature and the editing, very nice

  • @Isosceles8818
    @Isosceles8818 Рік тому +13

    I appreciate this Simply. I got into 16 star 1.5 years ago and I haven't even attempted to mess around with speedkicks. It's nice to see it broken down like this. Holding neutral at the perfect time felt too punishing but knowing you can use ESS. I may need to play around with it a bit.

    • @bryanjordan8876
      @bryanjordan8876 Рік тому

      can you explain to me what "neutral" is?

    • @Isosceles8818
      @Isosceles8818 Рік тому +3

      @@bryanjordan8876 Neutral is the dead center. Neutral means the stick isn't moving at all in any direction.

  • @roxttv
    @roxttv Рік тому +3

    Oknem really used every song in the MK8DX ost in this vid huh

    • @sandwichtime583
      @sandwichtime583 Рік тому +1

      LMAO

    • @roxttv
      @roxttv Рік тому

      @@sandwichtime583 no shroom ridge or sky garden, bad video tbh

  • @PressAAlex
    @PressAAlex Рік тому +8

    Did you add increase the framerate in order to get the slow-mo to be smooth? If so nice touch oknem, makes it look so much better

  • @fliperotchy
    @fliperotchy Рік тому +3

    Make sure you HOLD neutral KEKW

  • @AbnerTheOwl
    @AbnerTheOwl Рік тому +2

    I really like seeing Simply´s documentaries related to stuff, pretty cool.

  • @jivanta23
    @jivanta23 Рік тому +2

    Wonderful video, love this type of history on the move sets.

  • @themightyripples6582
    @themightyripples6582 Рік тому +1

    I feel like this is something that may have happened to a lot of people before it's discovery but they might not have even noticed that something weird happened and just carried on like nothing happened.

  • @iwersonsch5131
    @iwersonsch5131 Рік тому +2

    Frontflips are quite consistent if you wait half a second until Mario starts moving in the other direction. That would of course make the move not worth it in most speedrun situations

  • @aJanzu
    @aJanzu Рік тому +1

    I thought the thumbnail said kendrick and thought we found a kendrick Lamar new speed tech. very cool

  • @Monado6
    @Monado6 Рік тому +1

    I use to do them for fun as a kid. Didn't realize it was a technique

  • @RemiGemini
    @RemiGemini Рік тому

    really cool video, we need more videos that discuss the mechanics of this game, like ive been playing for around a year and not once has anyone told me you can speedkick with ess instead of neutral

  • @TheLoxely
    @TheLoxely Рік тому

    These are my fav vids from you big simp - These dives into the lore of the tricks that are used today are brilliant

  • @sanyo_neezy
    @sanyo_neezy Рік тому +1

    awesome, i never knew too much about this, but its truly fascinating! thanks, Simpmaster

  • @michaelkanning7044
    @michaelkanning7044 Рік тому +1

    Love these "history of techniques" videos!!

  • @bread_dawg
    @bread_dawg Рік тому +1

    The community was in remiss. There had never been a kick as speedy as this

  • @Non-Normal_Channel
    @Non-Normal_Channel Рік тому +1

    this is so interesting, amazing to watch

  • @OblivionWalkerVerified
    @OblivionWalkerVerified Рік тому

    We need more speedrunning lore

  • @georg4294
    @georg4294 Рік тому +1

    Love those video essays. Great content!

  • @Alivviegirl
    @Alivviegirl Рік тому +1

    That was entertaining and informative. Nice video!

  • @slvcontentfwd
    @slvcontentfwd Рік тому

    Was surprised to hear the direction changing on sideflips isn't popular, although to be fair I play casually on keyboard (with emulator obv) so it's probably WAY easier for me. I assume with an actual analog stick it's tough to get consistently.

  • @Taco_muncher
    @Taco_muncher Рік тому

    I love how speed running communities always find a game to just go faster and or break the game it's very fascinating

  • @jkwalzo
    @jkwalzo Рік тому

    Nice touch with the F-Zero music.

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k Рік тому +1

    I was distracted by the cute doge portrait the whole time.

  • @coachmcguirk6297
    @coachmcguirk6297 Рік тому +1

    Hank Hill: "I'm gonna speedkick your ass"

  • @UltimaN3rd
    @UltimaN3rd Рік тому

    During the first few seconds I thought, "Wait, Dyrus speedruns Mario 64 now?"

  • @coooolibri
    @coooolibri Рік тому

    i started doing 16 star for fun during lockdowns, and i can already do cool dw runs with
    the early speed kick. happy im a patient guy, who likes to learn new mechanics.

  • @randomly-genrated
    @randomly-genrated Рік тому

    Growing up me and my friends would do this all the time. I don't even understand how this wasn't used in speed running for so long. We didn't even do it for the purpose of speed running, just because doing the kick was fun to do.

  • @FaensOldemor
    @FaensOldemor Рік тому +1

    Great video my guy

  • @candamir
    @candamir Рік тому +24

    Is this the technique that revolutionized SM64 speedrunning?

  • @maxrichards5925
    @maxrichards5925 Рік тому

    One of, if not my favorite move in SM64. It's always satisfying to get one :)

  • @raydaal3265
    @raydaal3265 Рік тому +1

    so if backwards long-jumping was mentioned in a strategy guide all yhe way back in 1996, wouldnt it be considered a mechanic instead?

  • @DavidsD00MedReport
    @DavidsD00MedReport Рік тому +1

    Very insightful as always 🥰

  • @Butterkix
    @Butterkix Рік тому

    The frame interpolation is nice damn nice job

  • @JohnCuppi
    @JohnCuppi Рік тому

    Insightful and entertaining!

  • @fatalfoams
    @fatalfoams Рік тому

    sunshine airport music is fire

  • @The_Real_Goodboy_Link
    @The_Real_Goodboy_Link Рік тому

    I like that you have Euler’s “e” framed ❤

  • @simpson6700
    @simpson6700 Рік тому

    In hindsight the ESS speedkick makes so much sense

  • @strawberrylemonadelioness
    @strawberrylemonadelioness Рік тому

    I have a feeling new techniques will keep being discovered. Sure Mario 64 and it's code have been thoroughly documented, but there's always a chance to find new tricks,

  • @dylanmieth9646
    @dylanmieth9646 Рік тому

    Strokin' his chair he's got lotion on his chair.

  • @greasydave1318
    @greasydave1318 Рік тому

    'just groping on the chair' lol'd irl

  • @Sickolas7
    @Sickolas7 Рік тому

    the frame interpolation is evil

  • @metabarnak
    @metabarnak Рік тому

    shoutout to the chair

  • @AndrewJW
    @AndrewJW 6 місяців тому

    0:43 it's called a "body slide attack"

  • @fullshark09
    @fullshark09 Рік тому

    Nice video. The forward side flip bit at the end is very interesting. Have we overlooked a doable and important strat?

  • @moostrem2296
    @moostrem2296 Рік тому +1

    The wirtual of sm64

  • @space_audits
    @space_audits Рік тому +1

    Nice speedrunning book report, nerd.
    I'm just joshing you, I enjoyed your video. But more importantly, I hit the thumbs up and shared it with my friends.

  • @_hoolio
    @_hoolio Рік тому

    Fwiw, I remember watching a stream a while back of Weegee doing frontflips relatively on demand practicing ultra fast owless movement or something. It’s comin’ 🤠

  • @blueicewolf9131
    @blueicewolf9131 7 місяців тому

    Sry for such a weird comment, but i think i found a route change in super mario 64 120 star, that's faster. I don't find the video of the Person, who had the idea. If you do LBLJ to Bowser 1, SBLJ to Bowser 2 and than BLJ through that one door to the upper Floor, you can do RR with Carpetless, TTC, CLOUD first, than Exit Course to get back to Basement and do the Run like usually. Someone calculated that if you do it that way, you save 1 min and 30 seconds, if i remember correctly. You already do the start of that in 0 and 1 Star Runs. I write here, cause you know more than me Simply and you are better at finding these videos. That was calculated with carpetless TAS only, before the viable carpetless strat was found.

  • @CyanideSprinkles
    @CyanideSprinkles Рік тому

    this was a cool watch

  • @Cano..
    @Cano.. Рік тому

    These are my favourite videos of yours

  • @AssJagger
    @AssJagger Рік тому +2

    It finally happened
    Simply made his own content

  • @boxob093
    @boxob093 Рік тому

    Masterclass level thumbnail

  • @ren.batista
    @ren.batista Рік тому

    Dude, you mentioned SIglemic, I remember starting to like speedruns because of his runs at AGDQ/SGDQ 2013

  • @rogersasanka3408
    @rogersasanka3408 Рік тому

    I am probably one of those unsuspecting players whose movements look like a TAS and I manage to do certain movements like chaining multiple frame perfect slide kicks to go faster than 53 units/sec.

  • @Mater9000
    @Mater9000 Рік тому

    Can you do camera work/ lag reduction next? Great vid as always

  • @MikeTheGamerGuy
    @MikeTheGamerGuy Рік тому

    Another actually good video that convinces me SImply is smarter than he lets on for some reason.

  • @BagOfMagicFood
    @BagOfMagicFood Рік тому

    Well it would make sense that the backward long jump glitch was known in 1996 for the rumble edition to have removed it.

  • @luckiertwin2
    @luckiertwin2 Рік тому

    Great video. Really like this kind of content.

  • @eddychillz
    @eddychillz Рік тому

    The p sound pops when simply says possible @4:25

  • @Vloggen
    @Vloggen Рік тому

    The thunbnail didnt load for me i just guessed itll be about speedkicks

  • @Xigbar0331
    @Xigbar0331 Рік тому

    Sm64sr evolves 🤘 makes me wonder if sm64 will ever get a frame perfect record like the classic 2d games have

    • @twig7219
      @twig7219 Рік тому +1

      it will not. Even for the 2d games, SMB1 is a special case among them where a combination of framerules + very simple movement rules makes it possible to be frame perfect. SMB3 for instance has so many tiny optimizations that frame perfection will never happen. SM64 is so much harder than even that because perfect movement also requires stick angle + magnitude perfection in so many ways. The vast majority of single stars records don't even match TAS yet, let alone entire runs.

  • @Vorago_
    @Vorago_ Рік тому

    Great vid, speedkicking is very satisfying also 😊

  • @MikaKC
    @MikaKC Рік тому

    simply my new favourite content creator

  • @pinecone4610
    @pinecone4610 Рік тому

    Came across this trying to get a better roundhouse kick

  • @mookymookymooo
    @mookymookymooo Рік тому

    I love your vids like this

  • @dualgladius5916
    @dualgladius5916 Рік тому

    So that's how you do that. I'll try that after I get my first bombclip

  • @yaqootmirza7389
    @yaqootmirza7389 Рік тому

    yoooooooo new simply video lets gooooooooo

  • @naveenmagapu4670
    @naveenmagapu4670 Рік тому

    I knew nothing about any of this before this video. Also first time seeing a front flip.

  • @xehP
    @xehP Рік тому +3

    2:37 how are those frames so smooth? I would have assumed twixtor but it looks way too good, need his settings asap!

  • @knofle
    @knofle Рік тому

    I don't play sm64 at all, but I'm going to practice only front flips so I'm ahead of the curve when that is meta

  • @Cabinet_Pie
    @Cabinet_Pie Рік тому

    5:12 - 5:20 that was a clean edit

  • @josephharrison24
    @josephharrison24 Рік тому

    I'm not a speedrunner by any means, but, I have been doing the front flip forever. Didn't know it was a speedrunner strat. Easy to pull off in my opinion.

    • @themrdoggo
      @themrdoggo Рік тому +1

      A frontflip that would save significant time over what's currently done is frame perfect as far as I understand. You flick the stick backwards and then forward on subsequent frames. This is very difficult to do consistently, especially in the middle of other movement. Both because the angle is fairly precise if you want a good one, and because of the natural difficulty of flicking the stick like that.
      There's a much easier version, but it's not really used in runs because there's usually a faster option, where you have Mario go through the entire sideflip animation, then towards the end flick the stick forward and jump. This is very lenient and easy to do, but that sideflip animation usually loses time to just properly angling Mario or doing a triple jump.

  • @qhodave
    @qhodave Рік тому

    Great video

  • @deanblanchard3816
    @deanblanchard3816 Рік тому

    I don’t think it was technically discovered in 2010. I sorta learned about releasing the joystick during my jumps to perform a super jump, and to get into Bowser the fancy way (no stairs). My older cousins friend liked to show off, he was also part of a game club thing he had me believing were all elite gamers.
    He taught me a lot of neat stuff, and quirks.
    Edit: speed runners need to find mega nerds from the day and to get them to play showing off recording them.

  • @Kingdecali
    @Kingdecali Рік тому

    I suck at videogames so I watch your videos too see what elite looks like 😂💯

  • @Snooplax
    @Snooplax Рік тому

    Another great video!

  • @Tobuuto
    @Tobuuto Рік тому

    stroking that chair

  • @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
    @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy Рік тому +1

    This is just a test reply. Am currently experimenting for a way to use my inbox(or make some kind of psudo inbox)on my tablet WITHOUT having to resort to using the add infested UA-cam app(lol).

  • @Damdaaa
    @Damdaaa Рік тому

    anavrin is nirvana backwards, it's apart of a show called YOU

  • @aussierule
    @aussierule Рік тому

    Stop Simply. We get it. You’re good at Mario.

  • @PepsiSpeedruns
    @PepsiSpeedruns Рік тому

    I, as a keyboard emulator SM64 speedrunner, can say that front flips are so much easier on keyboard. Speedkicks are harder because keyboard usually can't use ESS pos.

  • @angelmeza8445
    @angelmeza8445 Рік тому

    Bro thinks he’s summoning salt