Soy vs Paraffin - Candle Making
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2020
- The greatest debate in modern candle making history!
Or is it?
Debating soy and paraffin wax is a topic that wanders forums and group discussions, almost weekly, with seemingly no conclusions. Most people enter these talks with a viewpoint in mind, but what they don’t realize is they’ve locked themselves into one or more of the four quadrants for analyzing wax.
In this episode we’ll walk through each quadrant of the wax lifecycle to understand how each one stacks up. The wax lifecycle is:
- Sourcing
- Making
- Selling
- Burning
...and they each have nuances to consider in each. You can use this framework to form your own conclusions on the matter if you have any - or just combine soy and paraffin and be done with it!
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There's no debate. Millions of people are addicted to Yankee's Paraffin wax.
True customers or general consumers who actually the bigger buyer of candle don’t care much about what wax its used. They are about result = scent throw
Parrafin comes from crude oil, soy is used to make plastic for wires, so burn both and you have the by-products of a garbage dump fire. However, who knows, bee wax has even more chemicals in it due to pollen in the wax and sulphur from the yellow dye in pollen. As weird as it sounds, parrafin is a distilled chemical and has less burning products than soy, palm and beeswax.
Although i notice less soot from a beeswax candle. Perhaps that is why beeswax candles are considered cleaner, as they burn hotter, and thus they actually burn the toxins. Beeswax's hotter temperature of burning converts any otherwise unburned soot into pure carbon dioxide and water.
This video was perfect! I found my old box of paraffin wax and wanted to make candles, but I kept seeing the "newer" soy candles being sold at fairs,etc. So I was feeling as though it would be outdated or inferior somehow. But now I feel better knowing there isnt a big difference! Thank you!
You are hands down the best person I have seen to date in regards to candles and actually explaining things.
Great job!!!!
Wow, I'm flattered. Glad you're enjoying the content!
THIS video certainly helped me! Thank you for all of this wonderful information. My grandson (9 years old) wanted to make candles for Christmas gifts. I will be supervising him as we get the ball rolling. THANK YOU!!!
Dude I loveeee your videos! So informative!
Thanks for all the info you provide. I'm new at candle-making and your channel has helped me A LOT!!! I wanted to asked you if you have any thoughts on CBL-125 and CBL-130?? I bought IGI-6006 from CS but I live outside of US, in the Caribbean and the shipping is very expensive. All I can find here are those 2 soyblends.
Any information and recommendation will be greatly appreciated.
Super useful. Thanks so much for sharing the opinion
Thank you for the in-depth info.
Very well explained, thank you 🙏❤
My instinctive reaction : paraffin is the only option of the two. (Although 100% bees wax is preferred above all)
Why? Paraffin is historically successfully used for candle making.
Also: no danger of putting carcinogenic pharmaceuticals in the air!!!!!
If not using organic soy, you are working with poison - and organic soy is probably very expensive to acquire in volume..
I use paraffin wax but my only problem is that on every item there’s frosting like a white layer on the candle how to fix it?
This was so detailed thank you ☺️
Hey guyss i really need your review on which wax should i use cause this is my first time 💗 so hope you guys will put your review
Great video and very precise aswell🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥👀
Love the way you explain things
I absolutely love your videos. My wife says you sound like David Schwimmer by the way and now I can't unhear it. 😅
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Definitely subscribed to your channel. Thank you so much for such a detailed informative video.
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for your informative vids 👍 💙.
Many thanks for this helpful information
Thank you so much I was really struggling with soy and I’ve purchase a bee batch of parasoy. This info is really great thank you so much
Can you do a video about candle sweating and how to fix it? Please.
That's a great idea - stay tuned.
Thank you for this video🌼
Hi, thank you for this great video. I wonder what do you think about parafin/soy blend wax? I think about it, i definitly want to try it out, because it seems to me like perfect match.
I am a huge fan of that idea. Do it!
2:08 Introduction ends and analysis begins.
I was going to ask about Soy Wax’s polymorphic behavior. 🤔
Do people ever mix Soy and Paraffin wax for a “Best of both worlds” hybrid?
My colors faded in soy wax after a few months. Of course I had to add extra color in the first place, and they looked amazing. To have them fade to almost nothing was so disheartening. I had them capped and boxed away from light, too!
You are amazing. Thankyou very much!
can we use soy wax for pillar candles?
Which wax is the best for quality candle ? 🌹
At what temperature do you pour your paraffin wax?
What kind of wax do you use the most.
Very informative
Love the knowledge and experience you bring, thank you so much. I just started candle making and am binging your videos. What do you think of palm wax in relation to these two?
It's trickier for some to conquer since it has it's own sensitivities in process, but overall a fun wax aimed at different goals. So not better, not worse, just different.
Doesn’t paraffin wax leave black soot? What paraffin wax do you recommend, I can’t find one that doesn’t leave soot.
Thank you great video ❤️
when I started back in the day I used 415, with a little beeswax, and it's easy to use in flack form. I have moved onto IGI 6006 and I love everything about it besides the fact that it comes in slab form and can sometimes be difficult to cut into or store. I am currently testing out coconut wax, and different blends with it to see how it works out, but it would be nice to have more information on it or more different opinions on coconut wax and apricot wax, both seem to be a good choice, but not a whole lot of information or reviews on this wax.
I agree - there needs to be more information out there on some of those newer waxes.
I wonder if someone who is allergic to tree nuts, which includes coconuts, would have a reaction to coconut wax.
Maybe you could do a burn test on all the various waxes, to see how much soot each one releases. Isn't that the untlimate test? how clean it burns? thanks
@@matrix626 I am very allergic to coconut and I do have a reaction to coconut wax candles when they burn. It took some digging to find out that the manufacturer used coconut and just had "soy" on the label.
Awesome video. Question - when you see some of the bigger candle makers market their candles as "made from soy wax (from beans grown in the US)" BUT the consistency of the wax - meaning smooth tops after every burn (which can't be achieved if the candle is 100% soy)... is that misleading customers, since they must be putting in paraffin to smooth the wax?
I suppose it is - I always assume 100% means ALL of it. That being said, I don't worry about what other people are doing either. My advice is to focus on your product, with your integrity.
When a company says "made with soy" that just means there's soy in the product. There could be paraffin in the candle still. Now if it says "made with 100% soy" then they are false advertising. Using the term "made with" just means the product contains that ingredient doesn't matter the amount. It's a marketing technique.
My opinion on what you said is i think they use a additive. Called UA? Or something i have forgot what i read now.
Hello could you tell me if soy wax can trigger allergic reaction when touched? Thank you
I don't know. Good question.
Great video!
Thanks. So glad you liked it!
Excellent video. Thanks! I have been wrestling with the "toxicity" debate in my head. I know both waxes are safe, but there is an all out bashing against paraffin online. For example when you look for best candle brands of the year 9 out of 10 push soy... The only one that always stands is Diptyque and they avoid saying the wax. In the sell quadrant doesn't it make it an uphill battle to choose paraffin?
Perhaps for selling to candlemakers, but if you're selling to the general public I'm of the opinion that *most* people aren't concerned about the name of the wax.
Thank you! I wanted to ask you one more question please! With 6006 does a diameter vessel of 3" + require double wicking or can one get away with single wicking. I appreciate your help. Thank you and happy holidays!!
Somewhat philosophical - I think you can pull it off both ways but it depends on the other components of the wax design too to know if you'll create something that isn't too hot or unsafe in other ways. I defer to the first and second laws of candlemaking: test, and test again lol.
If it was me, I'd first experiment with double wicking.
I think as a maker we have a responsibility to educate our customers. So while they may not care about whether it's soy or paraffin it IS our job to inform them & share why our product is made the way it is. Came here to be convinced that paraffin is non-toxic but not swayed at all. If customers want a paraffin candle with strong HT, they can get a Yankee Candle for cheaper than a handmade, hand poured, carefully sourced product made with love.
Is there any difference in temperature for adding dye and fragrance for paraffin and soy wax?
Between those two waxes I don't change much on the mixing end. The magic comes from your pour temps, but I'm usually mixing things in above 185°F (85 °C), and usually under 200°F (93°C)
@@ArmatageCandleCompany Hi, need your advice. What's the pouring temperature for the paraffin + soy wax blend?
Hi Started watching your videos They are a God-sent you answer honest questions What wick Can you please suggest using for IGI 6006
Good question and thanks! Consider using an ECO, zinc, or HTP wicks. Just know HTP wicks had a disruption this year (like many of us) and the jury is still out on the reformulation.
@@ArmatageCandleCompany also Do you think coffee mugs Make decent candle containers If they say microwave safe🤔 And once again thank you for your advice🙋♀️
@@mirnawinslow9784 as long as they stand up to the heat, don't leak, don't crack, and you get consistent behavior from them during your safety tests anything is possible! I don't personally use them, but don't have a problem with them.
Thanks for the analysis, well explained. Some odd cases that I have run into that can shift the choice this way or that... Some regions will see a higher demand "natural" or "renewable" products. Some customers won't touch a paraffin candle for that reason. In those same regions though, "natural" products can command a higher price. Another issue I encountered, is an allergy to soy. Even without any fragrance oil, it's hard to pitch a candle that offers "congestion and wheezing" to a customer. A rare case, but an interesting one and for those using it, a "contains soy" note may be helpful. Another comment mentioned CBL-130 (a soy/paraffin blend) for containers from Candlewic. My experience is good properties all around; pour, adhesion, aesthetics, throw, etc. The only downside is slab format... but they are soft and cut easily.
I only sell Congestion Candles to my enemies.
Hi thanks for all the nice info. I want to mix these waxes together. Any tips for how to mix these? Thanks
Of course! Pick a percentage of each you want to try (I recommend 70/30 paraffin/soy) and then measure that amount of each into a single melting place. From there it's business as usual! If you don't like a particular outcome, play around with your percentage split of each and see how it goes. Best of luck!
You can just buy the parasoy i6006 wax from candle science it’s wonderful! It’s a 70/30 blend . 70%parrafin and 30% soy
@@ArmatageCandleCompany thank you
@@SexyChoclateThunder 🙏this is the info. Appreciate it tnx
@@mandycampfens6703 you’re more than welcome! You can buy that wax i mentioned from candlescience.com Happy candle making❤️
Does paraffin soot causes oil film build up on walls and furniture?
I haven’t experienced that because I keep my wick trimmed. I switched from using soy to paraffin wax and using the right wick and keeping it trimmed makes a huge difference.
I was wondering if you could also make a video regarding the usage of paraffin and soy wax. I mean to say is which wax could be better for making which type of candles. You could make it straight to the point. Thank You.
**Some people are Allergic to Soy, so carrying multiple types of wax is a good idea as well.
Great video! Thank you. What temperature would you add fragrance at for paraffin container wax? :)
I personally add around 175°F to 185°F, but I find the pour temp has a lot more to do with the final cure profile compared to the FO add temp. What's your experience?
@@ArmatageCandleCompany okay I'm going to try it now it's my first time using paraffin wax, normally I use soy and add the fragrance at 134F keeps a nice cold and hot throw when added at this temperature. I am going to try the paraffin now it's just melting ! :) thank you very much for your video, it covers all the bases for both waxes.
Ah nice! I'm so excited for you. Please let me know how it goes!
hey, thank for the vid. what is the best way to fix or aboid dive in paraffin candles?
I can't recommend a heat gun enough for those things. I have a video somewhere about it.
is there any diff between soy wax flakes and soy wax slabs??
Slabs are better in my opinion. I use soy 10 . It comes in a slab form and it works wonders.
I prefer soy wax to be honest. This is coming from a huge consumer of candles. I have just given up on parrafin wax all together because it smells cheap to me and I don't enjoy smelling parrafin candles. Soy wax smells so much cleaner and more luxury to me. Keep in mind, though, that I really love candles so it's worth it for me to pay a higher price tag for them.
Damn, when u thought about taking a break just to find YT vid about candles sound like one of your college lectures again..🤦🏻♂️the headache
Really good video, there are a lot of myths about both kinds of wax. One thing I will point out is that here in Greece, Soy wax is almost twice as expensive as paraffin, I guess the location changes the price quite a bit?
Thanks. Makes sense since everything is imported and not grown I'm guessing. Thanks for the insight!
in Egypt, Soy wax is 5x more expensive!
@@marcello9684 😭 sad.
I alsio suffer from that here😭
I use rapeseed wax made in the Eu mixed with paraffin. Excellent blend, cost less and is ecologically better than soy for Europeans at least. Plus the you save money because you need less fragrance per candle
Where do I find $1.5 per pound?
Paraffin is more practical, however a study conducted by the University of South Carolina the combustion process releases toxic chemical such as toluene which is a benzene derivative a known carcinogen fir humans. (Can cause cancer)
How do I make paraffin burn longer?
Make the candle bigger ;) Actually I don't recommend worrying about burn time until you've dialed in the safety conditions first since that's dependent on the wick. Wick design will be the largest factor in burn time, which I typically measure during the standard testing phase. It's not perfect, since your burn time varies depending on habits of the user.
Add stearic acid
Paraffin is plastic. I never knew much about it until I recently got interested in looking into candle-making. Turns out, my elderly mother can't tolerate paraffin candles and smoke. So, I'll be sticking with the organic wax. But, it's a bit of shame because I think paraffin has it's place regarding color shelf-life.
Great video and kinda put mind at rest Im after a good performer in the fragrance dept and it would appear those waxes with paraffin out perform soy.
For sure!
what about cold and hot throw? I think soy has a better cold throw and paraffin is better when burning.
I've seen it both ways, but it's hard with scent given how subjective it can be.
Great video. I was wondering if paraffin wax is made with petroleum and therefore isn't as ecofriendly as soy?
Interesting topic! I've written about it on the blog, but haven't shot a formal video on the subject. I think of the environment cost of soybean production vs oil extraction and have to weigh a lot of different elements in my mind. Most notably, what do we judge "ecofriendly" by? The industry? The product? So many questions with a variety of valid opinions at every angle.
Soya isn't as eco friendly as is made out.
In my country, soy wax is at least twice as expensive, and paraffin wax mostly comes in beads.
I use rapeseed wax made in the Eu mixed with paraffin. Excellent blend, cost less and is ecologically better than soy for Europeans at least. Plus you save money because you need less fragrance per candle
Luxury candles... are mostly Soy or Paraffin?
Probably a custom-grade paraffin. Far more predictable.
Our paraffin comes in beads.
People are sheep. They are convinced that soy is healthy, paraffin isn't.
If Yankee is paraffin then I will continue buying Dollar tree wax melts. They're not so evil paraffin. I 💕💕💕💕💕 DOLLAR TREE!!!
It's a great video, wish yoj spoke about sustainability and eco friendliness. Buying parafin wax indirectly funds oil industry and shouldn't we be a bit more cautious about that these days?