Did Heaven Hill CRUSH This New Release?
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Great Video! Just an FYI, this mash bill is the same as the Elijah Craig mashbill - 78% corn, 12% malted Barley, and 10% rye. Some are saying this can be considered a cask strength version of their annual 18 year old Elijah Craig bourbon. It is also the exact same mashbill as the Heaven Hill 17 year that was released in 2022. Cheers!
Stole my comment! Haha
Something around 12% malted barley is required if you do not wish to add enzymes for fermentation. High barley bourbons include Chattanooga and Starlight. I can really taste the barley in those. Anything 8-14%, though, tastes fairly standard to me. Limestone is definitely NOT acidic - quite the opposite, limestone filtered water is alkaline with high calcium.
Luckily, I’ve never been a fan of 15+ year aged bourbon, so I can save some money on this one. 9-12 years in the barrel seems to be the range for me.
I agree 💯
@@montyreed333 100% sweet spot
SLB Classics
0:04 Trenton is keeping secrets but they’re good secrets
0:22 Kurt pre-rolls his glasses
0:48 epic opening music
1:53 Kurt sometimes gets stuck with the less good bottles
2:08 Trenton pulls the leg but still some serious 💸
2:44 she will learn and be an expert
3:18 Trenton note: toilet seat
4:12 Southern Trenton: Tornader
4:34 Trenton notes: rocking chair and bbq sauce
5:45 trenton finds a basement leak. Or spilled on his face
6:05 Trenton ages his bourbon in weird places, under the sink
7:17 Classic midwest politeness
7:33 Kurt sparking some potential controversy
8:41 kurt uses Trenton’s word: burnt
9:07 the boys have deducted the secrets of barley
9:29 Trenton does some good mental math
10:07 trenton doesn’t know what something is: limestone (actually basic)
11:45 😮 worth the price tag for the young Buck
12:06 Kurt tries offloading the worse bottle
13:35 drink what you like
14:24 much limited such wow
15:18 Kurt has moved past his clown days
16:22 Kurt puts his orders in for Trenton’s hunting abilities too
17:04 nice sign off and nod
Why take the time to do this?
@@ANONM60Dgreat question. Idk. Just tried it one day and had some positive feedback. Now it’s a fun way to start the day.
I think people will start realizing one day that some of the best bottles are sitting on the shelves right now.
And not necessarily the top shelves
Completely agree
There are some great bottles of bourbon sitting on the shelves, but not many of them 12 years or older.
Personal highlights are Trenton attempting to self inflate at 3:10 and then shortly after detecting a rocking chair in a tornado note.
Love the content as always guys!
Gonna agree with Cal, though my main note is usually "industrial solvent"
Still in the $100 and under club...and actually I am more the $70 and under at this point. Glad you all got it and shared notes. Heaven Hill and Evan Williams are "no go" for me...just haven't hit the mark for me lately. Will try them again...after I clear out some others in the house. Drink to taste toast notes in the whiskey...not to get to toasted! Cheers 🥃
I never justify buying high dollar whiskey based solely on the age statement.
Im not buying high dollar based on anything. That said most aged products will be higher priced. Ive had blantons and was not impressed. Eagle rare however is great. There are hundreds of whiskeys that are reasonably priced and the fun is trying as many as possible.
Even then, I like to cap out at the $10/yr algorithm
@@dsharton and barrel proof at that
Located a Lagavulin 16 yesterday…. going for someone who earns their MSE in Interstellar Navigation
These kinds of reviews are really valuable. Thanks Kurt and Trent.
Good ol tornado on its way. I would be sipping Pappy.
Very interesting. I love Heaven Hill bourbons. Love your videos.
Way out for me just on price alone. And I’m not an oak fan so this might not work for me on my palate. Sounds good if you’re into those flavors but I’m not that guy. Glad you got to get it and you did a great review on it. Enjoy!!
I agree on Barley adding a lot of flavor, for me, I like a lower percentage of barley in my pours.
Can't believe the price tag on this one, a blind of this against knob creek 18 for half the price would be interesting. Cheers!
Has 20 proof points on the KC18
@@nathansnyder1043 Good point, didn't realize that
I think w/most spirits there is definitely a 'sweet spot' in regards to aging. Longer is not necessarily better. Wine is the same way. It seems when things get past 15 years it is pretty much a crap shoot....& i'm not paying top dollar 'hoping' it's a good bottle.
I learned that lesson with Calumet 16 and Sam Houston 15. They tasted like my dad’s ancient Oldsmobile smells - mildew and old vinyl.
I got a bottle of knob creek 18 at Meijers for 147.00. Probably as good or better than the Heaven Hill 18.
Dunno, I get a bit of a cotton candy taste on the knob
Stop the cap
lol not even close
Nah, the Knob Creek 12 is better than the KC18 imo. Heaven Hill stuff tends to age better for my taste, the HH17 was immaculate. That said, I’m not paying $350 for this lol
Good review. I would likely enjoy if I got the opportunity to sample it. Doubt I’ll pay for a bottle. Thanks for the notes guys!
I was getting ready to say my max is $100 but most of the bourbon I drink is $40-$60 range and very happy with that.
Deep dark and complex was my nickname in college. Good video always! Cheers
Excellent find and review.
Thanks for reminding me. I just ran out of WT 101, I gotta get another bottle.
First time I ever heard someone say they got BBQ sauce on the nose. I just got a Kings County single barrel 128.8 proof and BBQ sauce is exactly the nose I got right off. It changed some when it was allowed to breathe, but it was still there. It has a unique taste, but I still really like it.
When I first got into whiskey, I heard the sweet spot for bourbon was aged 8-10 years and Scotch was 15-18 years, but I have some good older bourbons.
Whether you want to spend your own money or mooch off family is actually a great metric.😂 Thanks for the review!!
It's awesome that you guys are able to get these for the prices you get them for but most of us will never see these for as cheap as you guys get them
Love heaven hill’s ryes
If you remember, the Heaven Hill 17 was actually made up of mostly 19&20 yr. Only a minority of the juice was 17yr.
my shop only has Heaven Hill Black and Heaven Hill Bottled in Bond (never had either, but $18 @ 1.75L & $50 @ 750ml, respectively)
I had an opportunity to pick this up for $299 at an allocated release last week in Virginia but couldn’t pull the trigger. Ended up getting the Heaven Hill bib which I love and is never seen in Virginia.
"Toilet seat" has me dying.
Hey Trenton, limestone is basic or alkaline which is the opposite of acidic. On the PH scale 7 is neutral and the water here in Ky runs about 7.8 which is alkaline not acidic.
I'm not sure where the point of diminishing returns is for bourbon ageing, but I've found 15-18 year old bourbons to be very drying and over-oaked. My sweetspot seems to be 10-14 years. Thank goodness that saves me some $$$.
This is my favourite bottle
ECBP is also the same mash bill. I love that high barley content.
Really looking for a Nulu video. See them everywhere and curious
Have you guys tried 13th colony, or did I miss the video ?
Should have compared it to the 17 year old under the sink you got there.
Surprised you guys didn't pick up much sweet notes on the palate being high in corn.
If you're willing to get rid of the 20 year old mellow corn I would gladly take it LOL. Love me some corn
WRU? nVA nRVA
I have a spareHH20y
While not able to enjoy offerings at this price point currently I really enjoyed listening to your comments and respect for this release. I was a little concerned at the beginning with the toilet seat comment. Respect for a product and distillery offering an 18 Year release is important in this arena. I think that a product of this type also deserves to be tasted by those seasoned enough to enjoy what it offers. Time (Age) & Respect are important and expected in my opinion with this type of release. It's not very likely to be low quality product even if not everyone's preferred experience. My thoughts... Thank you again for sharing your experience.
@SLBDrinks Is this better then the 18 year Knob Creek?
Second this^
I picked one up last weekend for $300 but haven’t opened it yet saving for a bourbon veteran bottle share we are planning
Heaven hill is king
Just checking in on the Only Drams development for Android. Are we close?!
Fab video! By the way, do you do Collabs at all? 😊
I would never spend over $300 for any bottle of bourbon, but I would like to try a sip. I imagine a bourbon bar will want over $50 for a pour, so I probably will not get to sample it unless one of my friends comes up with a bottle. That's okay, I'm happy with my Russell's single barrel.
Of course I won a bottle of the one from last year 😔
Got my for 370$…… a lot of the reviews were hating on it….. may need to flip.
Just another bottle made for the Elite Collector to say look at what I got.
Bingooooo!
at 200$ i would buy a case
Trenton MSRP is 299.99 for the 18. The 17 is better but it also has older product in it.
Barley comments are exactly what makes ASM so interesting. Once you experienced Scotch and ASM you see complexities are sometimes missing in Bourbons.
Limestone 😂😂
There's lots of 7-12 year aged, more affordable bourbons I enjoy. I wouldn't pay $350 a bottle for any bourbons I can think of. I've tasted some 15 to 23 year old bourbons and didn't enjoy them that much.
I caught this in VA on a drop last week and scoffed at the price ($300). Had I known suckers would cough up $1800, I would have slept comfortably having paid some damn bills on the sucker's dime. Shit.
I wound up getting my first EHT Single Barrel for $69.
Don’t understand the price point on these bottles. My local shop brought in a Benromach 21 yo selling at $189. Benromach is a great bottle from a small distillery,. How can these older bottles from Scotland be so much better value than the local hooch?
That was strange - I have two YT windows open from different times this morning and there are different title shots. One was "Did Heaven Hill crush the new release" and the other was "Heaven Hill crushed the new release." Oopsie 🙂
I’m literally drinking it during this post.
It’s okay. I doubt anyone would drink it (in a blind) and say it’s a $300 bourbon.
Generally speaking, it doesn’t open up well.
I would be floored to have a son like Trenton what a solid youg man
Mmmmm. Title of video is they crushed it, but comments throughout the video are bit more cautious. Not positive enough to get me to pay even MSRP on this one. Thanks for the review guys. Always appreciate your honesty. Thanks.
Came to the comments to say the same thing. BIG difference between the title of the video and the actual review itself.
They have a question mark on the title. They aren't taking a stand. Half the titles on UA-cam have a question mark.
@@gregburkhart9764 maybe this isn't a thing and I'm just misremembering, but I'm pretty sure they updated that title to change it to a question because I very distinctly remember this previously saying: "Heaven Hill CRUSHED This New Release!"
@@gregburkhart9764 I think they updated it. I could be wrong but the original title wasn’t a question.
@@slvrbachthat is also my recollection which is why I made my comment. Glad it was updated though! The SLB team is very good about that kind of thing.
I might pay $100. I’m changing my mind a bit.
But on average I’ll stick with the $50 range
For the money 💰 everyone that I talk to at my local stores say that Evan Williams bottled and bond is their choice for the money.
the more people hype shit the price goes up
21 bottles or cases in Indiana? At first you said 21 bottles but then you started saying they'll release like 5 cases a month
Rick house=King house
I was two people away from being able to buy one in my state’s drop and am sad I missed out 😢
Heaven Hill 18 is ok, definitely not wotht 300$. I wish I had my money back!
If you have 1800 dollars to invest on a bottle don't buy it secondary go use that money on a bunch of bottles at a store and the owner will love you and give you bottles for MSRP.. if ridiculously priced bottles are your thing atleast do it right ..just dropping 2gs no one wins except the guy who sold it to you
It’s funny when people don’t understand secondary and spread misinformation that it’s goes for 1800
😂😂 guys that’s the standard 78/10/12 mash from Elijah Craig, HH17, and Henry McKenna, among others.
It’s also not wheated. They talk like it’s only a year different from the Old Fitz 17, when literally everything about it is different.
@@marcmiller1337 they are talking about the Heaven Hill 17, not the OF17. The HH17, not to be confused with the WHH17, is not a wheater either
Trinton Mom?
Had the chance to get this on Friday for $300 since I was in the store as they were bringing out the allocated stuff. The price is higher than I like paying so I ended up getting a Jack Daniels 12 year for $100 instead.
Major L
Major W
Man I wish I was in your area. I’ve never even seen the 12 and have only seen two bottles of the 10 year and one place wanted $130 for it and the other wanted $180
@@BigMeatyClaws212 In Virginia so they are state run, only get the stuff like this every once in a while but it's always msrp
I picked up a bottle of the 12 and will be sad when it's gone.
So what you’re saying is it’s not the usual one note sweet stuff Buffalo Trace keeps pumping out. If someone says their favorite whiskey is (insert anything from BT here) don’t give them this. They won’t appreciate it.
You two are great but you always make me feel like an outsider when you mention everyone else from your livestreams, which most of us obviously don’t watch. Its cool you have developed a tight knit community but maybe save the chummy stuff for the livestreams?!
Confirmed…watching on the toilet
Yes, right now.😅
It's not possible to make corn whiskey awesome. They should stop trying. Mellow Corn and Baby Blue are good; I enjoy them; others have been meh. But there seems to be a threshold on what you can do with corn whiskey.
Mellow Corn is good, Baby Blue is very good, and True Blue is fantastic. What corn whisky needs is a climate that provides a huge amount of interaction with the barrel, and Waco provides it. Baby Blue is only a year old, but it looks and drinks like a bourbon.
@@WhiskyForBeginners I'll take your word that True Blue is fantastic; I love Balcones. But I haven't seen any trusted reviewers back up that opinion, thus my opinion that it can't be done. But if anybody could pull off a great corn whiskey, it's Balcones.
@@darkpatches Most reviewers seem to not even know Balcones Distilling exists, so the lack of positive reviews from "trusted" reviewers is hardly indictive (and who's doing the trusting? is the person doing the trusting infallible? is it possible for two "trusted" reviewers to have differing opinions? why should I trust Reviewer X anyway, instead of my own palate?).
@@WhiskyForBeginners What are you talking about, man? They're my trusted reviewers, reviewers with whom I typically agree, good or bad spirit. Balcones is well known in America (I don't even know what you meant by that) and those reviewers knew what they were drinking, at the very least. I took a chance and got Baby Blue, and you've read my opinion of it, which more or less aligned with "my" reviewers who warned me about it. It's fine, but nothing special, something I conclude is inherent in corn whiskey. You obviously disagree. If you have enough money to buy every single bottle of whiskey to determine what yer palate thinks of it, knock yourself out. I try to use a more intelligent and efficient method to narrow down my choices. I'm tired of throwing money away on corn whiskey. Maybe I'll try a glass of True Blue and change my mind.
KURT!!! I would def love to taste a "Big Boy" Bourbon!!! I looks like a great sip!!! CHEERS brother!!!
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