This true crime story is so sad. The movie was very well done. Helen Hunt is an excellent actress and captured the sickness and narcissism of Pam Smart. Greg was a good man and Pam did not deserve him. It was horrific what happened to him. RIP Greg 🙏❤️💐
I was watching an interview with Pam, she said she didnt even pull the trigger and is still sitting in prison when the actual killers are out, and she doesnt understand that!! This woman GROOMED these kids to do this...she IS responsible....I cant fathom why she thinks she shouldnt be in prison!!! MINDBLOWN!!!
Well, She must be a narcisist. Basicly they have non consciece but the Truth Is that they are completly under satanic dominion. They never change and never repent, Just like Satan.
Today this teen would do anything to return to this Night when He killed her husband. And to run away from Her house before the husband entered the house Hé would continued his studies and probably would had a Great job liké a lawyer or a journalist or may be hé would bé a writer or an artist like photographer or a painter or a singer ; actor....... He did his Great mistake who waste him 30 years from his Life !!!!
I would caution you to take the word of a co-conspirator with a grain of salt. That comes from someone with a motive to make himself look less culpable than he is.
@@IggyBooS I totally agree!!! They took the life of a "FRIEND" and it was disgusting to see how proud they were of receiving material things, UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
Yes, as you get older, you can spot a narcissistic personality pretty fast. Raising awareness in what to look out for is helpful to young people to recognize the signs. Nicole Kidman was also good in "To Die For". (The closing scene w/the woman skating on the ice to Donovan's "Season of the Witch" is so memorable).
@@sharonjensen3016 And their apologies are peppered w/excuses and explanations, when all that is required is a simple & straightforward apology for what they said or did, otherwise, it's not an apology!
Soooooooo hard to believe this stuff REALLY happens, no matter how many times I watch movies about these things, no matter how old I have gotten to be, no matter how many books I have read........absolutely INSANE stuff! Just does not fit into the mind!
That poor young man was bamboozled by a manipulative woman. She certainly has this thought from day one after her marriage. She certainly belongs in prison for the rest of her life.
I've learned some good lessons from bad teachers. I never had a teacher who did what Pamela Smart did (coercing her students to commit murder) but I had teachers who talked down to me yet still expected me to show them respect. Well, excuse me, but respect is a two-way street. When you hold a position of power and authority, you need to dress and act in a way that shows respect, for yourself and others.
@@maricamaas2326 One thing; they were indeed, youth. They were kids. The other; they were included in the trial. And finally, this was 30 odd years ago, so reporting them now to school authorities is a moot point.
@@lisawentworth6831 What I meant was, that while the affair was in progress, it should have been reported, and even if her husband was not informed; she - as an adult working at the school - should have been reprimanded. Thereby the tragedy could have been prevented? Sadly it mostly happens that the one who is being cheated upon, is last to find out.
@@juliedidlinger6638 Constantly in need of attention... Was it the insurance money driving her, or could she have been planning something like this from the start? Otherwise, as her husband was making good progress, and since she did not get the job on tv, she somehow felt left behind? By never admitting her guilt, there is this continuing controversy around her... Wonder how her parents and upbringing fitted in?
@@maricamaas2326 she always seemed a wild child…never seemed to love her husband even when engaged…it started when he cut his hair for his job…she deserves no life except in jail…strange tho that the boy who actually pulled the trigger got less conviction than she did..probably due to the fact he was a minor at the time
@@IggyBooS they showed remorse. This monster has no remorse, she still puts the blame all on them and that's why they won't let her outta jail. Flat out and that's why she rots in jail. As she should.
@@IggyBooS maybe if she didn't COERCE her teenage lover into doing it she wouldn't have gotten life. SHE was the TEACHER, the ADULT, SHE wanted her husband DEAD. Maybe for that reason and others they gave different sentencings. I agree tho, had it been my son, I too would want them all to rot in jail for life. Yes. If you look at her clips now she just looks so arrogant, so unbelievable I can't stand her.
This woman had no soul, a very narcissist mindset. Look at how she behaved as if she didn’t do anything. Only the devil could do such a thing and it continues to live freely deceiving, seeking whom it may destroy.
Got that right some people who read the Bible all the time don't know when the devil is controlling them and their action, anytime you hate somebody for no reason, you are his.
Wonder if she was not out to get caught, why else would she have involved as many, and be as open about what she was intending? By staging this drama, she surely did get famous; was reported about on the news - receiving a lot of attention on screen - where she was denied to work previously.
What a shame. She destroyed her husband's life, and destroyed those kids lives. Hurt her husband's family so deeply, and I suppose hurt her mother as well. Such a shame. How many young kids are going to be afraid to get married and have kids because of people like her. She doesn't have the right to do that.
@@fredrezfield1629: immaturity, they may know/understand right from wrong but, the full concept of thinking “beyond the now” is too complicated so they won’t analyze the consequence of their actions and the concept of “cause and effect”, (commonly known as Karma).
I've seen every movie and documentary on this case I have never seen Pam cry once. Not one time. She's pissed that her accomplices got paroled and she's in for the long haul!
Helen Hunt did a great job of acting immature and talking the 16 year old into killing her husband. Her immaturity really shows as she feels she will have no consequences.
She did an amazing job, didn't she? Immaturity is exactly what led her to these decisions, she was very stunted, she was on the same emotional developmental level as the teenagers she hang around. What do you think about Nicole Kidman's depiction in To Die For? I love that movie too, I thought it was very well done.
Nicole Kidman's character in "To Die For" did face consequences for what she had done- when her father-in-law hired a hit-man to "ice her." Better dead than in jail living off the taxpayer, which is what Pamela Smart is doing.
YES! and in Pam's interview she stated that the movie was a lie, and Helen Hunt portrayed a Her as an airhead...Um! NO! SHE PORTRAYED HER JUST LIKE SHE WAS/IS!!! SHE WAS AN IMMATURE AIRHEAD
You can see that she was made to feel like she had to marry her husband... nothing was going the way she wanted.. he was settling for a regular job and her career wasn't as exciting as she wanted. Manipulating that poor boy and having him kill for her was her sick fantasy come to life and it's gross.
I think she married Greg for the fantasy of being a bride, and having a big fancy wedding. She never thought about real life. She wanted a fancy reporter career and expected her husband to be something he could not. She was embarrassed by his personality because he wasn't a rock star.
It’s just downright tragic … Greg was the type of guy that any woman with an ounce of respect and dignity of that time would have loved to have had - a man who _wanted_ to get married and have a kid, wanted to admire his wife and care for her, had a wonderful loving relationship with his family (who were willing to accept his wife and treat her as their own), came from a good background, and knew when it was time to be serious while still wanting to have some fun and be humorous. Pam took all of that for granted and couldn’t stand not having things her way. She didn’t feel in control of him anymore and started pushing the abuse narrative real early. The next best thing she could do? Manipulate a young teen with a crush on her to “make it right” so she could be in control again. Absolutely despicable. Helen Hunt did such a wonderful job in this movie. In fact, the whole cast did. I know it wasn’t easy to portray something so traumatic and heartbreaking, but they got it done to show the real horrors of this woman.
She looked so sweet & innocent! Wow! You would never know by looking at her. She appears to be the perfect teacher. So sad these kids were drawn into her web. 😮
was? she still is... she stilllll sits in prison doing life.. STILLLLL lying.I feel bad 4 Gregs family & friends.. im glad she got life in prison.. she's where she belongs
I think there is a thrill of doing something illicit and daring, and just going to bed with one person you are married to is sort of boring. There is some sort of kick involved in being naughty, and if you make something legal, it becomes boring. @@BlondeRockChick
@@leythonlopez-ty5dmYes she did and she also devastated his Family for ever. I meant her husband’s family. It’s horrible when you lose a child. My husband and I barely survived the deaths of three of our children over the years but I think what the Smart Family went through so devastating.
The way his parents babied her and took her side automatically when she said he hit her was odd. They automatically blamed their son even though that wasn't his nature and has no history of abuse.
could there be something underlying and kept quiet? (RIP Greg) if that Really happened in Real life ----------- However, I believe in the old adage ------- there is ALWAYS 3 sides of every story ---- left and right parties., then the ACTUAL event.
i think Pamela Smart sayin her husband "hit" her.. wow she IS A LIAR... she was tryin a lie & gain sympothy she was like sick in the head or something.. im so glad she in prison 4 life rotting where she belongs.. i wish Greg would a just divorced her...& gotten an order against her
So much lies, manipulation, and future-faking went along with the seduction of this young, immature, vulnerable boy... His mother and friends knew she was bad news from the start, but he would not listen to anyone's advice, and she knew exactly which buttons to push to get him to do precisely what she wanted.
Sometimes people have to learn for themselves. Harsh, but true. I learned that a long time ago. If someone won't listen to reason, they're on their own.
@@sharonjensen3016 Yes indeed, it's through experience that most of us learn our most valued lessons; this often after others had advised us to go ahead with doing something, which then eventually ends up badly for us... All having limited insight - seeing only in part... Yet, the value of more mature mentors should not be under-estimated. That's why I make a point of befriending those 20 years my senior.
When you are that age and having your first sex with a beautiful, seductive woman it is very easy to be manipulated into almost anything. Especially when she is threating to cut you off and claiming her husband beats her.
@@thefrase7884only she should have and legally could have, its illegal to execute minors. Plus they were all manipulated by her into doing it and, despite having done the actual murder, Express more remorse for their actions than her
The Pamela not so smart after all eh 😂😂😂😂 RIP handsome hubby 💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭 Glad she will never get out, ever!!! God knows she'll do it all over again. She will. Let her think about the crime she did and rot in jail/hell!
This movie is so very accurate to what actually happened... More accurate than To Die For!!.. She still maintains her innocence to this day!!! You will never catch her admitting guilt.. Not even to save her own life. .
Agree ...she wasnt/ isn't that good looking ...as the media tried to portray her. Average body...average looks ..thin lips...nothing spectacular at all. Still can't believe she was able to manipulate those boys into a murder plot.
This film presents her as 100 💯 Complicit in arranging first-degree murder yet she still stipulates that she is innocent and didn’t coerce the teenagers .
That poor Billy.. he was a lovely boy. He was infatuated, she was sick and evil to take his innocence and twist him like a coil round her own selfish needs.
He should have got life just like she got he knew right from wrong any woman that cared anything about you is not going to ask you to kill someone and really I think they should let Pamela Smart out of prison why should she spend the rest of her life when they paroled Billy after 25 years they should only give Pam 25 years she didn't actually do anything if she did anything Billy might have lied about the whole thing Pam may have never loved anything about it if I was on the parole board I would give her parole I'm just saying if they're going to get Pam life in prison that should have Billy in the rest of then life in prison but if they're going to parole billy after 25 years then they should parole Pam also
@@sirbuffalo that's exactly why. Because now young people change partners like socks... Lived here, lived there, lived everywhere and at 40 end up single. Then they start looking for someone "special". That special long time gone... Everyone's becoming selfish by 40. Always me me me.... And then high divorce rate. When people marry young they passionate about each other, accept or don't see other faults and end up living together all their life. That's the love. To accept and cherish other person. Not yourself. And it is great to spend your life with someone for 80 years!!!! Then one is sure that has a true friend for life. Marry young, have children young and go through life together no matter what.
@@mrsmarple2655 Another problem is confusing infatuation with love and not understanding that real love takes a lot of work. They expect the honeymoon period to last forever, it doesn't. The mundane reality takes over, people get used to each other, etc, they feel unappreciated and unstimulated, so they seek divorce or affairs on the side. People need to think very carefully before making a lifetime commitment and remember, that grass always seems greener on the other side, because they don't tend to their own grass at home.
@@sirbuffalo you obviously confuse two different things love and lust... I'm not going to explain to you. Once you lived your life, have raised your children, grandchildren then you can talk about love. Goodbye dear.
Cecelia, Billy, and the rest of the gang were pissed that Pam reneged on their arrangement, which was money for murder. Pam kept the money from Gregg's life insurance and never paid it forward to her under dogs. The gang's fury at how they were discarded and never paid for their role in Pam's wicked scheme made way for loose lips and carelessness. I've read comments on how Cecelia was even jealous of Pam, which is why she cooperated with the prosecution. Say what? Come again! Cecelia cooperated to save herself from a lengthy stint in prison. Cecelia was a complicit confidant with an ulterior motive, which was an easy high school diploma and fast money. Cecelia knew that Pam could pull strings to help her graduate if necessary, for she was a student in her special ed program. I don't think Cecelia was as intrigued by Pam as some have speculated. Cecelia wanted what she could muster from Pam, who was happy to give because she, too, had an ulterior motive. Once the plan to kill Gregg was in place, and there was the promise of money, Cecelia was all too happy and comfortable to play the game for a payout. Cecelia was no angel, nor was she naive or vulnerable.
Pam went on a media rampage in the beginning, always plugging the circuits. When the killers' identities were finally broadcast, a reporter knocked on the door of her condo for an interview, and she gave him the quick hand slam right in his face. People were baffled why the notorious grieving widow would be so private because the wheels of justice seemed to be turning in her favor once police apprehended the suspects in question, but no, not Pam. What a piece of work. I'll never forget how quickly she slammed the door in that reporter's face, especially after being a media queen.
❤❤❤ for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life has passed from condemnation❤
There was a really good series about a teacher a student affair & showed how she was not satisfied in her marriage & turned to a teenager in her class . He it showed the emotionally damage it did to the student . Also how she made it all about her & not the responsibility of how a student would be affected , after it all came out , she was arrested for being with a minor , the student was initially seen as cool for having a sexual relationship with a teacher at university, yet he got really stressed . He trained to work with affected children & they met by chance years later , it was brilliant & showed the damage she had done as he said “ I see my brother now the age we got together & he looks so young , she tried to blame him & he said again u make it all about you ! You were meant to be the adult !
Not a usual Helen Hunt fan, but I do like her performance in this. Having seen interviews with Pam she does have the same curt and matter-of-fact way of talking ,as Pam. Plays well to the wide-eyed ‘adolescent angst’ Billy .
Hunt is 60 years old as of 2023 and has gone deaf due to a tumor. She looks fantastic. Chad Allen/Billy is a now Psychologist. Great cast featuring Howard Hesseman, Hank Stratton, Michael Learned and so many others. Hard to believe this movie is 30 plus years old.
In the end,this evil lady destroyed anyone and everyone,she came into contact with. From her own family,to her husband's family,the young kids she manipulated to carry out her sinister plots,their families and of course most of all her husband. It was just to the degree of destruction she brought,to everyone that she met that was different. From kids life's being destroyed,their families suffering to the ultimate act of death to her husband and immeasurable lifelong torment to her husband's loving mother and dad. The saving grace in all this,is that this lady,who really in effect had a great life,but for her wasn't enough,and wanted it all,just for herself at any cost,destroyed her own life for good in her case too. Brought about by thinking she was smarter then everyone else. But forgot,when attempting to commit the perfect murder,trying to project a clean all loving heartbroken wife,manipulating kids to do your dirty work,is a risky business. By being so arrogant,that she thought she could tell friends of her target she was grooming to kill her husband,and an teen School assistant as well,about her plans,and it would not come back to bite her,one way or another. On the outside,to her husband,his parents and the world she looked like the real deal. Untill you saw the real her,when the doors were closed in private. She was someone who could of gone far in tv as she wanted,and thank God she never got the chance to run in politics. She might have gone far. Rest in peace to her husband. May his parents have found comfort and I pray the kids she damaged have been able to repair their lives with gods eternal grace.
WOW, I THINK THEY WERE TOO YOUNG TO GET MARRIED, BUT WHY DO PEOPLE THINK MURDERING SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY YOUR OWN PARTNER IS THE WAY OUT, TIME AFTER TIME THIS IS THE CASE, THANK YOU LINDA
Exactly...ok she got married to young not the first...it happens...just get divorced and move on. So her partner would hurt in the beginning but at least he would be alive to fix his life again. 😡
@@thefrase7884 Well, if he never met her, he more than likely would never have killed anyone. He was reluctant to do it. It's not like he was born to kill. He definitely did not want to do it.
@@allisonmalone4618no, it has not….shes been beaten to a pulp a few times, one time so bad that she needed reconstructive surgery on her face….and I think that she’s been SA’ed as well by a guard or so…..
We lived across the street from Pam & Greg when this happened. They seemed like nice normal people. You dont know what really goes on in people's private lives.
Whoa! Look at her in court, just like Amber Heard, she's busy writing, writing while the hearing's going on. What's with narcissists and the act of writing?😆
A few years ago Pam Smart and I exchanged a few letters. All her letters implored me to write the governor of New Hampshire. She would never live up to the truth that she played a big part in the murder of her husband 😢
Great name. Many of us GenXers, who were into music from day one, the 70s was our entire childhood, hair was a yuge deal. I LOVE long hair on dudes, ( not all ) it will turn my head subconsciously every single time. My husband, goes from pony tail to flat top throughout the years.
To show how manipulative and selfish she is, when Smart recruited the three students to enter the video contest, she said that she would take the Florida trip AND half of the cash prize. Meanwhile, the three kids would have to split the other half of the cash prize between them? They should have gotten all of it.
She is so bad to take children and have them murder her husband. She is right where she should be in prison. I would be afraid for society if she ever got out. She is pure evil. Deloris Kentucky
She's a horrible woman, but I still think the person who actually pulled the trigger should have had life in prison too. I can understand why the prosecution would offer the friends a deal, but him? No.
I think fifteen is old enough to know better. I wonder if you'd be willing to let every fifteen year old killer, currently serving life, out of prison. There are even young death row inmates who were influenced by someone, or something, outside of themselves when they murdered. That kid murdered his girlfriend's husband. You may be right, but if it were my loved one he had killed, I'd want both of them locked up for life.
They need his testimony against Pam….he was so twisted from being balls deep that he thought that he was “in love” (ya, ok) but without his testimony they may have not gotten her and she needed to be gotten as she is pure poison and evil!
Oh my goodness.....best movie ever in a mini series! I adore and treasure old movies! Sally Fields is absolutely amazing, as are other actors. I couldn't stop watching it on my phone! THIS IS A MUST WATCH! ❤❤❤❤
I remember well when this happened. They asked Billy on the stand why he did it & he cried & said "I loved her" He married while he was in prison. He's been out just a few short years now.
This true crime story is so sad. The movie was very well done. Helen Hunt is an excellent actress and captured the sickness and narcissism of Pam Smart. Greg was a good man and Pam did not deserve him. It was horrific what happened to him. RIP Greg 🙏❤️💐
You didn't deserve what happened to you Greg. R.I.P. knowing she's in prison and will probably never get out. I'm so so sorry. R.I.P. Greg
How people think that murder is the answer vs getting a divorce is beyond all comprehension
The only thing worth fighting over in a divorce is the kids. Everything else is either replaceable or worthless.
Truly unbelievable and that they actually did it
Money Hungry !
She wanted the insurance money
Look at Amy Fisher, some kids regardless of gender are stupid as hell!
I was watching an interview with Pam, she said she didnt even pull the trigger and is still sitting in prison when the actual killers are out, and she doesnt understand that!! This woman GROOMED these kids to do this...she IS responsible....I cant fathom why she thinks she shouldnt be in prison!!! MINDBLOWN!!!
Well, She must be a narcisist. Basicly they have non consciece but the Truth Is that they are completly under satanic dominion. They never change and never repent, Just like Satan.
She’s a full spectrum sociopathic narcissist. She is mentally wired to never see her responsibility in anything only what her needs are.
She is a narcissist.
Yes she should be in prison for planning the murder of her husband!!!
@@lindaandreula2724they should be in prison forever as well
The way she manipulated that kid "If you love me then you'll kill my husband, how dare you not want to do it" screams narcissist
She is an evil person.
Today this teen would do anything to return to this Night when He killed her husband.
And to run away from Her house before the husband entered the house
Hé would continued his studies and probably would had a Great job liké a lawyer or a journalist or may be hé would bé a writer or an artist like photographer or a painter or a singer ; actor.......
He did his Great mistake who waste him 30 years from his Life !!!!
I would caution you to take the word of a co-conspirator with a grain of salt. That comes from someone with a motive to make himself look less culpable than he is.
A retarded narcissist. Most narcissists aren't that blatantly stupid which is why they get away with all their abuse
@@IggyBooS I totally agree!!! They took the life of a "FRIEND" and it was disgusting to see how proud they were of receiving material things, UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
Controlling narcissistic woman can play havoc with young people. Helen Hunt is a good actress.
Notice how narcissists are never sorry for what they've done, just sorry they got caught.
Yup.
@@sharonjensen3016yup.
Yes, as you get older, you can spot a narcissistic personality pretty fast. Raising awareness in what to look out for is helpful to young people to recognize the signs.
Nicole Kidman was also good in "To Die For". (The closing scene w/the woman skating on the ice to Donovan's "Season of the Witch" is so memorable).
@@sharonjensen3016 And their apologies are peppered w/excuses and explanations, when all that is required is a simple & straightforward apology for what they said or did, otherwise, it's not an apology!
Soooooooo hard to believe this stuff REALLY happens, no matter how many times I watch movies about these things, no matter how old I have gotten to be, no matter how many books I have read........absolutely INSANE stuff! Just does not fit into the mind!
Amen! I think the same way. Who and why would do something like this?
I agree!
I agree! That's why I watch stuff like this, because I can't imagine doing something like this. It's just beyond!
Thats why we need religion to ground us.
Right, how do they expect to get away with it.
I just read where Pam lost her last appeal for early release, so there she sits, for the rest of her life.
She deserves it.
Good she needs to rot in prison,,Greg was a great guy
@@Lisa-hn3hz agree!
as well she should!!! She planned this whole thing
@@SassyLaughlin13 I’m with you!
That poor young man was bamboozled by a manipulative woman. She certainly has this thought from day one after her marriage. She certainly belongs in prison for the rest of her life.
Pam Smart has exhausted all her appeals. She will leave prison on a gurney or in a bag.
Pamela Smart simply did not want to grow up. Pretty sad when someone has an aging crisis in their early twenties.
That’s what I was thinking she was emotionally immature, she could of simply got a divorce
The whole country has an aging problem. It’s sick
Its not unusual to have that problem, but very sad.
She prob felt some way that being 22. They want women to married popping out kids. But she didnt wanna mature. She couldve found folks her own age..
@@Rickypaleo1776well she was 22. But they wanted her to have the life of a 35 yo. Idky she didnt just bounce
As a teacher she is suppose to teach our kids and set an example for hard and honest living. Glad she sitting in jail for the rest of her life.
I've learned some good lessons from bad teachers. I never had a teacher who did what Pamela Smart did (coercing her students to commit murder) but I had teachers who talked down to me yet still expected me to show them respect. Well, excuse me, but respect is a two-way street. When you hold a position of power and authority, you need to dress and act in a way that shows respect, for yourself and others.
The youths who were aware of the scandalous affair should have reported it to the school authorities.
@@maricamaas2326 One thing; they were indeed, youth. They were kids. The other; they were included in the trial. And finally, this was 30 odd years ago, so reporting them now to school authorities is a moot point.
@@lisawentworth6831
What I meant was, that while the affair was in progress, it should have been reported, and even if her husband was not informed; she - as an adult working at the school - should have been reprimanded. Thereby the tragedy could have been prevented? Sadly it mostly happens that the one who is being cheated upon, is last to find out.
She wasn't a teacher.
Her husband was so innocent and unsuspecting of the evil he was married to.
Plenty of people don't want to believe monsters are. But they are. They walk among us, hiding in plain sight.
The way she moved in on his parents and others to make him look like the bad one who was abusing her 🤦
Horrible person….she was manipulating a child as she herself was immature…deserves to sit in jail
@@juliedidlinger6638
Constantly in need of attention... Was it the insurance money driving her, or could she have been planning something like this from the start? Otherwise, as her husband was making good progress, and since she did not get the job on tv, she somehow felt left behind? By never admitting her guilt, there is this continuing controversy around her... Wonder how her parents and upbringing fitted in?
@@maricamaas2326 she always seemed a wild child…never seemed to love her husband even when engaged…it started when he cut his hair for his job…she deserves no life except in jail…strange tho that the boy who actually pulled the trigger got less conviction than she did..probably due to the fact he was a minor at the time
To this day she still claims those boys did the murder on their own. What a monster.😮😢
Yup.
@@IggyBooS they showed remorse. This monster has no remorse, she still puts the blame all on them and that's why they won't let her outta jail. Flat out and that's why she rots in jail. As she should.
@@IggyBooS maybe if she didn't COERCE her teenage lover into doing it she wouldn't have gotten life. SHE was the TEACHER, the ADULT, SHE wanted her husband DEAD. Maybe for that reason and others they gave different sentencings.
I agree tho, had it been my son, I too would want them all to rot in jail for life. Yes. If you look at her clips now she just looks so arrogant, so unbelievable I can't stand her.
she's a life-er in prison..
she has nothing else
better 2 do but lie...
she's about as delusional
as her own mother...
@@aliciacruz5957
remorse or not..
THEY STILL TOOK A LIFE
THEY ALL DESERVE LIFE💯
OMG! I competed in that orange juice commercial my senior year in 1989. We won third place, money for the music department and walkmans for everyone!
How cool!.
Very cool !
It was a competition all around the States?
Walkmans! There’s a blast from the past!
Cant believe how a young man can be fooled into murder with 3 other conspirators. The girl who overheard should have called the cops and warn greg!!
Sure, but would Greg or the cops have believed her? Pam would have just denied it.
@@sharonjensen3016exactly! You can't realistically report a "crime" that you only overheard being planned...hearsay, I believe;
@@sharonjensen3016 It would've scared them into NOT doing it since the Cops would be on the look out.
You can't believe it? The whole thing is about men doing whatever for her cause she was kinda hot.
But she was a "girl." We have to give her grace for not being grown, just like Billy.
The scenes between the two were truly sickening.
Helen was real good in this. She did a great job as a narcissist who feigned sadness over guilt, guilt of being caught. Much like the real Pam.
Narcissist? No….Sociopath? Yes
@@thefrase7884 Not every narcissist is a sociopath, but every sociopath is a narcissist.
I love Helen Hunt! She’s such a great actress in all of her movies!!! RIP Greg 🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹
Thank you
This woman had no soul, a very narcissist mindset. Look at how she behaved as if she didn’t do anything. Only the devil could do such a thing and it continues to live freely deceiving, seeking whom it may destroy.
Got that right some people who read the Bible all the time don't know when the devil is controlling them and their action, anytime you hate somebody for no reason, you are his.
She is one of the worst
Her mother-in-law hadn't wanted to believe the worst about Pam, but when it was confirmed, the shades came up.
Wonder if she was not out to get caught, why else would she have involved as many, and be as open about what she was intending? By staging this drama, she surely did get famous; was reported about on the news - receiving a lot of attention on screen - where she was denied to work previously.
yet her parents still support her, and still think she is innocent...smh
What a shame. She destroyed her husband's life, and destroyed those kids lives. Hurt her husband's family so deeply, and I suppose hurt her mother as well.
Such a shame. How many young kids are going to be afraid to get married and have kids because of people like her.
She doesn't have the right to do that.
No one does
Pamela Smart is way
delusional.. & so is her
own in denial-delusional
mother
i blame those kids how could they not know the consequences ?
@@fredrezfield1629: immaturity, they may know/understand right from wrong but, the full concept of thinking “beyond the now” is too complicated so they won’t analyze the consequence of their actions and the concept of “cause and effect”, (commonly known as Karma).
@@feenarvaez65afraid to have kids ?
Me thinks not
I've seen every movie and documentary on this case I have never seen Pam cry once. Not one time. She's pissed that her accomplices got paroled and she's in for the long haul!
Duh…..classic sociopath
Helen Hunt did a great job of acting immature and talking the 16 year old into killing her husband. Her immaturity really shows as she feels she will have no consequences.
She did an amazing job, didn't she? Immaturity is exactly what led her to these decisions, she was very stunted, she was on the same emotional developmental level as the teenagers she hang around. What do you think about Nicole Kidman's depiction in To Die For? I love that movie too, I thought it was very well done.
nicole kidman would've been better she is actually hot and convincing
helen hunt is hardly a 5
Nicole Kidman's character in "To Die For" did face consequences for what she had done- when her father-in-law hired a hit-man to "ice her." Better dead than in jail living off the taxpayer, which is what Pamela Smart is doing.
Wasn't he 15? And why didn't I have teachers like this in high school?
YES! and in Pam's interview she stated that the movie was a lie, and Helen Hunt portrayed a
Her as an airhead...Um! NO! SHE PORTRAYED HER JUST LIKE SHE WAS/IS!!! SHE WAS AN IMMATURE AIRHEAD
You can see that she was made to feel like she had to marry her husband... nothing was going the way she wanted.. he was settling for a regular job and her career wasn't as exciting as she wanted. Manipulating that poor boy and having him kill for her was her sick fantasy come to life and it's gross.
I think she married Greg for the fantasy of being a bride, and having a big fancy wedding. She never thought about real life. She wanted a fancy reporter career and expected her husband to be something he could not. She was embarrassed by his personality because he wasn't a rock star.
Pam Smart was the kind who would throw anyone under a bus, once they had served their purpose or failed to.
It’s just downright tragic …
Greg was the type of guy that any woman with an ounce of respect and dignity of that time would have loved to have had - a man who _wanted_ to get married and have a kid, wanted to admire his wife and care for her, had a wonderful loving relationship with his family (who were willing to accept his wife and treat her as their own), came from a good background, and knew when it was time to be serious while still wanting to have some fun and be humorous.
Pam took all of that for granted and couldn’t stand not having things her way. She didn’t feel in control of him anymore and started pushing the abuse narrative real early. The next best thing she could do? Manipulate a young teen with a crush on her to “make it right” so she could be in control again.
Absolutely despicable.
Helen Hunt did such a wonderful job in this movie. In fact, the whole cast did. I know it wasn’t easy to portray something so traumatic and heartbreaking, but they got it done to show the real horrors of this woman.
She orchestrated the whole thing ; she never should get out
She looked so sweet & innocent!
Wow! You would never know by looking at her. She appears to be the perfect teacher. So sad these kids were drawn into her web. 😮
An innocent man lost his life!
She wasn't a teacher.
Never "judge a book by its cover."
Yes and it seems like only one young man could Pam’s personality and he referred to her as fake
Some people can spot fakes better than others.
I can’t get over how evil Pam was. Poor Billy!
was? she still is... she
stilllll sits in prison doing
life.. STILLLLL lying.I feel
bad 4 Gregs family &
friends.. im glad she got
life in prison.. she's where
she belongs
She was only a few years older than the kid who shot Gregg. That’s what people miss when they discount the culpability of the others involved.
women are evil. why cant you "get over"
@@ailleananaithnid2566 She was way more then a few yrs.older.Did u not watch this or see it on the news,read the papers????
@@ailleananaithnid2566 She was in her later 20's an adult and a teacher,kids was kids,the killer was 15,her lover was 15.
Her husband was much nicer looking than the boy. What was wrong with her? Another Mary Letourneau.
She never grew up. She remained a spoiled teenager. Reminds me of Amber Heard.
Much better looking….? What are you 12?
No, fully grown up, and I think her hubby was much nicer than the boy she tried to run off with ........@@chewie2055
Oh I know and Susan smith.. her husband was way better looking than that dude she wanted too!
I think there is a thrill of doing something illicit and daring, and just going to bed with one person you are married to is sort of boring. There is some sort of kick involved in being naughty, and if you make something legal, it becomes boring. @@BlondeRockChick
Hasn't she ever heard of a divorce? There's absolutely no reason to kill someone..
He also had a $140,000 insurance policy. I am sure that had something to do with it.
Yeah, I think she wanted to inherit the house and everything. It was about money.
I also wanted to kill my husband sometimes but i just divorced him
That was a lot of money in the 90's.
Money
Pamela (wasn't) Smart.
😂
😁😁😁
She ruined a kids life
@@leythonlopez-ty5dmYes she did and she also devastated his Family for ever. I meant her husband’s family. It’s horrible when you lose a child. My husband and I barely survived the deaths of three of our children over the years but I think what the Smart Family went through so devastating.
Truth to that!😂
I usually don't like Helen Hunt but she really went above and beyond expectations with this movie!
I usually like her.
She was great in As good as it gets with Jack Nicholson 🎉
She has won awards. She was great in this movie.
Teenagers are SOOOOO vulnerable and susceptible to evil influences.
Brain is still growing until 25 years old.
The way his parents babied her and took her side automatically when she said he hit her was odd. They automatically blamed their son even though that wasn't his nature and has no history of abuse.
@sarahstrickland744 yes. I thought the same. It was somewhat strange.
It seems they just really wanted their marriage to work. Those are good parents and great in laws.
could there be something underlying and kept quiet? (RIP Greg) if that Really happened in Real life ----------- However, I believe in the old adage ------- there is ALWAYS 3 sides of every story ---- left and right parties., then the ACTUAL event.
i think Pamela Smart sayin
her husband "hit" her.. wow
she IS A LIAR... she was
tryin a lie & gain sympothy
she was like sick in the
head or something.. im
so glad she in prison 4 life
rotting where she belongs..
i wish Greg would a just
divorced her...& gotten an
order against her
The way he talked to her in front of them, I could see why they believed her. She is still a terrible person
She DESTROYED so many lives. Not to mention parents and relatives. Some people are born with wickedness in them.
So much lies, manipulation, and future-faking went along with the seduction of this young, immature, vulnerable boy... His mother and friends knew she was bad news from the start, but he would not listen to anyone's advice, and she knew exactly which buttons to push to get him to do precisely what she wanted.
Sometimes people have to learn for themselves. Harsh, but true. I learned that a long time ago. If someone won't listen to reason, they're on their own.
@@sharonjensen3016
Yes indeed, it's through experience that most of us learn our most valued lessons; this often after others had advised us to go ahead with doing something, which then eventually ends up badly for us... All having limited insight - seeing only in part... Yet, the value of more mature mentors should not be under-estimated. That's why I make a point of befriending those 20 years my senior.
When you are that age and having your first sex with a beautiful, seductive woman it is very easy to be manipulated into almost anything. Especially when she is threating to cut you off and claiming her husband beats her.
She is right where she needs to be for the rest of her life, in prison
Actually they all should have gotten the death penalty
@@thefrase7884only she should have and legally could have, its illegal to execute minors. Plus they were all manipulated by her into doing it and, despite having done the actual murder, Express more remorse for their actions than her
She had to be very stupid to think she could get away with this.
And what was even her motive?
@@mapleleaf0 He had a $140,000 insurance policy.
Narcissists think they're invincible.
@@miapdx503 That's a good point and helps explain her behavior.
Love Helen Hunt , she did a great job as usually
The Pamela not so smart after all eh 😂😂😂😂 RIP handsome hubby 💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭 Glad she will never get out, ever!!! God knows she'll do it all over again. She will. Let her think about the crime she did and rot in jail/hell!
What adult woman has an affair with a boy who rides a bicycle for transportation and is very immature?
😮
A school teacher, naturally.
That kind did!
A sick one
She was just using him, so he would kill her husband. He was easy to manipulate, and she knew that.
She was turned on watching him play air guitar in her backseat😂
She had a nice, good looking husband that was on his way up. What was the problem?
@renee braxton: She was the problem.
@@bjteacher3721 Yes, she was. Sick and evil woman.
@universal The real Gregg Smart was handsome.
She wanted to be able to manipulate. A grown man wouldn't go for it.
I think when he cheated on her her evil side snapped
This movie is so very accurate to what actually happened... More accurate than To Die For!!.. She still maintains her innocence to this day!!! You will never catch her admitting guilt.. Not even to save her own life. .
And that's exactly why she will never be paroled. The board will never recommend that she be released until/unless she admits guilt and shows remorse.
OMG it doesn't make any sense.
Yeah but Nicole Kidman is hot 🔥
To Die For is a satire, it was never meant to be a re-telling of the story. And it’s terrific. “I f’g LOVE this song!”
I don't think that "To Die For" was supposed to be accurate, I think it was a satire.
I did'nt think Pameia Smart was that good looking Helen Hunt was to good for that role
Yup.
I so agree.. kinda ugly tbh..
Maybe yes but the likeness was there. She was cast well.
Agree ...she wasnt/ isn't that good looking ...as the media tried to portray her. Average body...average looks ..thin lips...nothing spectacular at all.
Still can't believe she was able to manipulate those boys into a murder plot.
They have to make it that way for the movie.. If they put an ugly actress in there to play the part nobody would watch it..
A really decent man, in love with his wife. She's a narcissist witch who was most definitely not in love with him.
Oh my gosh I was just googling Chad Alan and boy is he good-looking damn!
No I got to see some more movies with him
He was a wonderful husband
Look up the 90s ABC show Life goes on. @@juanitamorgan5475
This film presents her as 100 💯 Complicit in arranging first-degree murder yet she still stipulates that she is innocent and didn’t coerce the teenagers .
That poor Billy.. he was a lovely boy. He was infatuated, she was sick and evil to take his innocence and twist him like a coil round her own selfish needs.
He knew right from wrong
He knew right from wrong when he went to prison he was Billy the b****
He should have got life just like she got he knew right from wrong any woman that cared anything about you is not going to ask you to kill someone and really I think they should let Pamela Smart out of prison why should she spend the rest of her life when they paroled Billy after 25 years they should only give Pam 25 years she didn't actually do anything if she did anything Billy might have lied about the whole thing Pam may have never loved anything about it if I was on the parole board I would give her parole I'm just saying if they're going to get Pam life in prison that should have Billy in the rest of then life in prison but if they're going to parole billy after 25 years then they should parole Pam also
Poor Billy my foot. He knew it was wrong.
Lovely people don’t go around sl@ughtering
love all helen hunt movies . thanks for uploading this one
R.I.P. Howard Hesseman and Ken Howard.
I love Michael Learned. She’s so funny in real life, nothing like the Mrs Walton we all knew
I know. When I saw Mrs. Walton as the mother of the victim, I exclaimed, “Helen Hunt killed John-Boy!!!”
Nobody should get married at 21. It was different 50 or 60 years ago. Find yourself first before you end up living with the same person for 80 years
Says who???
@@mrsmarple2655High divorce rate.
@@sirbuffalo that's exactly why. Because now young people change partners like socks... Lived here, lived there, lived everywhere and at 40 end up single. Then they start looking for someone "special". That special long time gone... Everyone's becoming selfish by 40. Always me me me.... And then high divorce rate. When people marry young they passionate about each other, accept or don't see other faults and end up living together all their life. That's the love. To accept and cherish other person. Not yourself. And it is great to spend your life with someone for 80 years!!!! Then one is sure that has a true friend for life. Marry young, have children young and go through life together no matter what.
@@mrsmarple2655 Another problem is confusing infatuation with love and not understanding that real love takes a lot of work. They expect the honeymoon period to last forever, it doesn't. The mundane reality takes over, people get used to each other, etc, they feel unappreciated and unstimulated, so they seek divorce or affairs on the side. People need to think very carefully before making a lifetime commitment and remember, that grass always seems greener on the other side, because they don't tend to their own grass at home.
@@sirbuffalo you obviously confuse two different things love and lust... I'm not going to explain to you. Once you lived your life, have raised your children, grandchildren then you can talk about love. Goodbye dear.
Too bad that Cecelia didn't tell the police. Greg's life could have been saved, and everyone would have been spared jail.
I always thought she shouldn’t have gotten off scott free.
Cecelia, Billy, and the rest of the gang were pissed that Pam reneged on their arrangement, which was money for murder. Pam kept the money from Gregg's life insurance and never paid it forward to her under dogs. The gang's fury at how they were discarded and never paid for their role in Pam's wicked scheme made way for loose lips and carelessness. I've read comments on how Cecelia was even jealous of Pam, which is why she cooperated with the prosecution. Say what? Come again! Cecelia cooperated to save herself from a lengthy stint in prison. Cecelia was a complicit confidant with an ulterior motive, which was an easy high school diploma and fast money. Cecelia knew that Pam could pull strings to help her graduate if necessary, for she was a student in her special ed program. I don't think Cecelia was as intrigued by Pam as some have speculated. Cecelia wanted what she could muster from Pam, who was happy to give because she, too, had an ulterior motive. Once the plan to kill Gregg was in place, and there was the promise of money, Cecelia was all too happy and comfortable to play the game for a payout. Cecelia was no angel, nor was she naive or vulnerable.
@@marlanaferro1558Yeah I agree
Pam went on a media rampage in the beginning, always plugging the circuits. When the killers' identities were finally broadcast, a reporter knocked on the door of her condo for an interview, and she gave him the quick hand slam right in his face. People were baffled why the notorious grieving widow would be so private because the wheels of justice seemed to be turning in her favor once police apprehended the suspects in question, but no, not Pam. What a piece of work. I'll never forget how quickly she slammed the door in that reporter's face, especially after being a media queen.
One of Helen Hunt's few villainous roles
'Love is a serious mental disease' - Plato
❤❤❤ for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life has passed from condemnation❤
There was a really good series about a teacher a student affair & showed how she was not satisfied in her marriage & turned to a teenager in her class . He it showed the emotionally damage it did to the student . Also how she made it all about her & not the responsibility of how a student would be affected , after it all came out , she was arrested for being with a minor , the student was initially seen as cool for having a sexual relationship with a teacher at university, yet he got really stressed . He trained to work with affected children & they met by chance years later , it was brilliant & showed the damage she had done as he said “ I see my brother now the age we got together & he looks so young , she tried to blame him & he said again u make it all about you ! You were meant to be the adult !
Not a usual Helen Hunt fan, but I do like her performance in this. Having seen interviews with Pam she does have the same curt and matter-of-fact way of talking ,as Pam. Plays well to the wide-eyed ‘adolescent angst’ Billy .
The script is all about Van Halen and there´s not a single Van Halen song inthe movie. Wise guys, the Halen family!
My older sister and I watched this TV movie when it first aired!
Me too! omg, I feel my age now loll!
Same. I remember once seeing it sold on VHS at K-Mart, but regret not buying it. Thanks to OP for the UL.
@@Agent.Wadsworth Walmart might sell the VHS 📼 or the DVD 📀.
Hunt is 60 years old as of 2023 and has gone deaf due to a tumor. She looks fantastic. Chad Allen/Billy is a now Psychologist. Great cast featuring Howard Hesseman, Hank Stratton, Michael Learned and so many others. Hard to believe this movie is 30 plus years old.
Oh my --- Helen Hunt is Such a Gorgeous Lady too, and seems to be Great People.
And I Forgot an ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS FACE!!!!
Good, because he sure as shit couldn't act! :))
Maybe you're mistaken. There's a different Helen Hunt, who is British, and lost her hearing due to tumors on the auditory nerves.
He was such a nice guy
This film portrays a modern-day Jezable spirit!!! Her spirit is real!
Having seen Helen Hunt blossom into a wonderful amd successful actress, I enjoy seeing her earlier films.
She seemed to be emotionally immature & wanting to relive her teenage years/ she should of just got a divorce…
She wanted the house, cars and life insurance.
In the end,this evil lady destroyed anyone and everyone,she came into contact with.
From her own family,to her husband's family,the young kids she manipulated to carry out her sinister plots,their families and of course most of all her husband.
It was just to the degree of destruction she brought,to everyone that she met that was different.
From kids life's being destroyed,their families suffering to the ultimate act of death to her husband and immeasurable lifelong torment to her husband's loving mother and dad.
The saving grace in all this,is that this lady,who really in effect had a great life,but for her wasn't enough,and wanted it all,just for herself at any cost,destroyed her own life for good in her case too.
Brought about by thinking she was smarter then everyone else.
But forgot,when attempting to commit the perfect murder,trying to project a clean all loving heartbroken wife,manipulating kids to do your dirty work,is a risky business.
By being so arrogant,that she thought she could tell friends of her target she was grooming to kill her husband,and an teen School assistant as well,about her plans,and it would not come back to bite her,one way or another.
On the outside,to her husband,his parents and the world she looked like the real deal.
Untill you saw the real her,when the doors were closed in private.
She was someone who could of gone far in tv as she wanted,and thank God she never got the chance to run in politics.
She might have gone far.
Rest in peace to her husband.
May his parents have found comfort and I pray the kids she damaged have been able to repair their lives with gods eternal grace.
I 100% agree with you.
Gone Far in Politics ?
Nothing to brag about as they are bribed & bought usually.
15 yr old boy. Life sentence. Heartbreaking sad
He didn't get life since he testified againt Pam, but yeah, still so sad.
He deserved it. He took a life.
Billy is out of prison now,,Pam is in prison for life
@Lisa totally missed the point
WOW, I THINK THEY WERE TOO YOUNG TO GET MARRIED, BUT WHY DO PEOPLE THINK MURDERING SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY YOUR OWN PARTNER IS THE WAY OUT, TIME AFTER TIME THIS IS THE CASE, THANK YOU LINDA
Exactly...ok she got married to young not the first...it happens...just get divorced and move on. So her partner would hurt in the beginning but at least he would be alive to fix his life again. 😡
He cut his Rocker hair 😮
Once she was married, she realized the party was over and she didn’t want that.
Was anyone else as skeeved as I was with the way she was so coolly and calmly discussing getting rid of Gregg??
Yes, I was disturbed by it.
She is screwed to sin yourself is one thing, but to convince others to sin……no good.
She’s now old and wrinkled sitting in prison still blaming those poor kids and denying any involvement. She obviously will never grow up
Poor kids? One is a murderer. Manipulated or not you have to have it in you to kill
She's only in her 50's.
She looks a lot older. Prison has not been kind to her
@@thefrase7884 Well, if he never met her, he more than likely would never have killed anyone. He was reluctant to do it. It's not like he was born to kill. He definitely did not want to do it.
@@allisonmalone4618no, it has not….shes been beaten to a pulp a few times, one time so bad that she needed reconstructive surgery on her face….and I think that she’s been SA’ed as well by a guard or so…..
I hate that nice guys attach themselves to vindictive women like this!!!
Facts 😢😢😢
We lived across the street from Pam & Greg when this happened.
They seemed like nice normal people. You dont know what really goes on in people's private lives.
😮
Oh. So you are, rich, rich 🤑
That’s terrifying
Whoa! Look at her in court, just like Amber Heard, she's busy writing, writing while the hearing's going on. What's with narcissists and the act of writing?😆
Yes I'm about to say that plus the " he hit me " just like Amber Heard 😂
It seems that it goes hand-in-hand with always having to be in control. Writing down every detail so she can manipulate everything.
Thank you for posting this. Most enjoyable.
Some women are evil 👿
Yes, and some men are too.
Thank you for uploading this great movie !
Another gem on UA-cam Thank you for posting ❤❤❤
I agree !!
The girl who knew could have prevented it.
A very touching story.
The devil👿doesnt look like the devil👿all the time..he can be look like a normal being
Agreed
Yup.
I remember this being in the news paper in ohio when it happened unbelievable!
Thanks for posting this. I recorded this on VHS when it aired & lost it.
Well find it then…….
@@thefrase7884 I would...if our house didn't get wiped out in a tornado, sport.
She wanted to get caught. What did she think would happen plotting the murder with some damn teens?! Hell grown folks can't even keep secrets 🤣
Yup. If she wanted to get away with it, she would have hired professionals.
Then why does she keep denying it?
@@reneedennis2011 She couldn't afford them.
@@alexandrasymeon5893 True.
Not so Smart !
A few years ago Pam Smart and I exchanged a few letters. All her letters implored me to write the governor of New Hampshire. She would never live up to the truth that she played a big part in the murder of her husband 😢
Why?why in the *F would you write this psycho path?? Geez
What is her into to write to her?
Narcissist will never satisfies with that what they have they only care about themselves
Yup.
Thanks love old lifetime movies
Me, too !
So sad for all the men, that got caught up in her narcissistic, psychotic web!
how good this guy looks after the hair cut 😉
why she wouldn't like it, remains a mystery to me 🤔
Great name.
Many of us GenXers, who were into music from day one, the 70s was our entire childhood, hair was a yuge deal. I LOVE long hair on dudes, ( not all ) it will turn my head subconsciously every single time. My husband, goes from pony tail to flat top throughout the years.
@@paceflchick Damn right long hair was important.Girls loved it.Lucky guy who had long straight hair. Woe to the youth who had ugly hair.
That's absolutely irrelevant. If she didn't like it, she was free to leave him (as stupid as that would be) and look for a hippie...
@@potocatepetl She was a cold bitch. Never should see freedom again.Why did she have him killed rather than just divorcing him?Insurance money.
@@paceflchick ugh how horrrible.
To show how manipulative and selfish she is, when Smart recruited the three students to enter the video contest, she said that she would take the Florida trip AND half of the cash prize. Meanwhile, the three kids would have to split the other half of the cash prize between them? They should have gotten all of it.
She is so bad to take children and have them murder her husband. She is right where she should be in prison. I would be afraid for society if she ever got out. She is pure evil. Deloris Kentucky
Thank you for uploading this movie.
Thank goodness for Helen Hunt 🙂
Thank you for the movie.
❤
She's a horrible woman, but I still think the person who actually pulled the trigger should have had life in prison too. I can understand why the prosecution would offer the friends a deal, but him? No.
No he shouldn't have he was just a little fifteen-year-old child manipulated by an older woman
I think fifteen is old enough to know better. I wonder if you'd be willing to let every fifteen year old killer, currently serving life, out of prison. There are even young death row inmates who were influenced by someone, or something, outside of themselves when they murdered. That kid murdered his girlfriend's husband. You may be right, but if it were my loved one he had killed, I'd want both of them locked up for life.
@@shelikesdiamonds it is old enough to know better but he still shouldn't have spent life in prison
@@shelikesdiamonds or had life in prison like you wanted him to he was just a dumb gullible kid
They need his testimony against Pam….he was so twisted from being balls deep that he thought that he was “in love” (ya, ok) but without his testimony they may have not gotten her and she needed to be gotten as she is pure poison and evil!
Kinda weird that Chad Allen was 18 and Helen Hunt was pushing 30 when this movie was made.
Well, he must have learned a LOT !
@@siegridthomas9674 Turns out he likes MEN!
Hunt was born in 63, Allen in 74
Helen Hunt beautiful ❤️
@@user-qr9uh1fd8g She was before her face lift. Why do beautiful people chop their body parts up?
Oh my goodness.....best movie ever in a mini series! I adore and treasure old movies! Sally Fields is absolutely amazing, as are other actors. I couldn't stop watching it on my phone! THIS IS A MUST WATCH! ❤❤❤❤
What did you watch?
Sally Fields?
To die for, that was a great movie based on this
Yup.
Nicole Kidman wayyyy better
That was a really great movie...loved the ending!
Uau!!! Helen Hunter in This Movie is pure evil. But I still Love her 😂
I remember well when this happened. They asked Billy on the stand why he did it & he cried & said "I loved her" He married while he was in prison. He's been out just a few short years now.
She was very immature
Very immature. Really thought she had everything together....not..
She barely passed for 'cute" when she had him killed.
@@chrisirving1239 Exactly
Yup.