Crash Protection for the KTM Duke 390? 125 200 250
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2021
- Crash protection is expensive and changes the look of the bike. Is it worth it? Here I run through the setup that I use for road and low level stunting and give my reasons for my choices.
You may note that a lot of the items are from @BagorosPerformance because they make parts that look good on road bikes. Links to most parts below'
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Great video once again mate, happy to hear you keep having fun with your DUKE and practice stunts :D
Thanks, always appreciated, and the stunting is always thanks to your vlogs. I've been putting this one off for months because I was hoping to be able to follow it up with the road bike protection video including the crash bobbins but I think I need to grow my channel a bit more before I see them. Huge thanks to your team for the support and reposting.
Where can we buy those replacement plastic pucks?
I love that this older guy is into this style of bike, and this style of riding.
Thanks. Getting older doesn't mean you have to stop having fun ;)
thanks for the video, good advice and explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the video. I crashed my 390 Duke when practicing slow tight turns in the parking lot. The crash bars protected the engine side but the front brake lever bent and the mirror and the bar end got scrapped. I need more protection on the bike before I continue practicing and your video helped me to gather some information about it.
Loving the location, a lot more bright than the garage, great video as always, I have the fork protectors and powerparts engine cage myself!
Thanks. Made a change to have a nice day and not too noisy a location. Sounds a good choice!
@@MotoMirius lovely weather in the UK isn't it? Shame I can't ride! Still waiting on the DVLAs medical decision.
@@callumboothroyd3766 Hopefully you'll get a positive result soon. I've hardly ridden at all recently.
@@MotoMiriusdo the bagoros front peg sliders require a different front axle? Going to install them and it would appear so
they do, yes - maybe depending on year this will be different as the wheels have changed - you can see it here - bagorosperformance.com/product/front-freestyle-crash-pegs-ktm-duke-125-200-250-390-my-2017/@@Brownkid422
Good advice for any bike not just the KTM Duke .. Its something EVERY rider should conciser when they look at there bike.. "If they slide it what parts would hit the floor" Nice upload
Thanks. The Duke is lucky enough to have some good protection options.
I have the power part cage like yours and sliders on the forks. I’ve kept the bar end weights and added shorter levers. If I had a nice Can on it I’d get the rear cage like yours to protect it. Always great to prevent damage. Thanks David
Thanks Andrew. Bar weights are great for dragging down the road. I only don’t use them because I changed the handlebar after it got bent.
Hey, I'm in the U.S. do you know where to get the bar end weights?
@@imdabossyoneone5692 Sorry I don’t.
Well explained mate, definitely worth buying if you’re using it as you do 👍🏻
You mean if someone falls off as much as me? 🤣
Every KTM 390 owner should watch this. I appreciate your effect placing the bike on the ground to demonstrate your point.
Does the crash bars by itself actually protect the radiator or is it too short? Or do you need both the crash bars and the front axle bars (whatever it's called)?
Thanks. Crash bars do most of the radiator protection, followed by the rear cage which stops the bike not rolling over too far. If I wasn't running the rear cage I'd consider a proper rad guard but then you can't run the crash cage with most - except the adventure style crash cages and even then you have to be careful because the upper mounting point can damage the frame if its not properly supported (which most aren't)
Good video! I have a engine cage and hand guards on my 390 Duke.
Very cool! Hand guards are designed for enduro riding so you don't hurt your hands on tree branches.
This is my favorite bike,
Thank you very much sir ❤❤❤
Great choice! Thanks
Another nice video, im also looking to invest on the rear subcage. What kind of side mirrors are those are easy to use and not easily blocked by your body?
They are not very good. I know exactly what mirrors I want - and they will go there, but the only ones I can find are very expensive, and I have yet to figure out how to modify the stock ones to sit there without using a bar end mount.
Where have you got that rok bagoros edition handlebar? Witch other Magura bar can replace it or is similar to it? Thanks in advance.
Currently the RB edition handlebar is out of stock - I'm not sure if they will make it again. Magura appear to have changed the dimensions of the x-line bars so I'm not sure if they currently make one. Pro-taper might make one - they are an off road handlebar size.
Savage sticker kit man. Any idea where to get something similar for the gen 1 Duke 390?
Thanks. Sticker kit is from Bagoros Performance - not sure if they are still making them for the gen 1 and they are launching new sticker kits soon. There are still graphic kits out there but you'll need to Google them. Good luck
I’m picking up a new duke 125 sometime this week when the dealer calls me up to pick it up. Found your videos which will be great for learning. Great videos
Good luck with the new bike!
Is the sprocket in the video 50or56T?
Can I use 56T without removing the chain guard?
Its 48 - with a 14 front sprocket you can boost that up to about 53. A 56 will normally need the rear end of the chainguard lifted - most people add a little plate between chainguard and swinging arm.
@@MotoMirius Thx man !!:D
So I crashed for the 1st time on my 2019 390 Duke. I damaged the muffler side of the bike. Rear brake lever and foot peg need replacement. The clutch cover and a couple of bolts on the cover need replacement. Which videos can I watch of yours to handle these repairs. I’ll be ordering sliders and engine protector cages, also. Thanks in advance.
Clutch cover - ua-cam.com/video/8iA7Nsd07Lo/v-deo.html Case protectors ua-cam.com/video/6vmsB6BCb40/v-deo.html Sliders will depend on what you are fitting, cage "Basic Crash/ Stunt Protection installation - KTM 390 125 200 250 Duke"
ua-cam.com/play/PLpKOr6GM2hB3yKDghMX1Ysll4aq0Q_0Y-.html#:~:text=Basic%20Crash/%20Stunt%20Protection%20installation%20-%20KTM%20390%20125%20200%20250%20Duke but watch the powdercoat in the threads
hey Mirius, are the KTM PowerParts Sliders too small for the same protection rokbagoros ones offer?
I find them a bit short. If you want a slick road bike build then go with the Powerparts or better yet the Bagoros Performance shorter sliders - but there is a small risk of scraping the fork/ radiator. I like the longer ones because they push the bike further away from the road as it slides along - but they don't look as slick.
@@MotoMirius yes sir I think ill go for the longer ones bagoros sells, too bad KTM doent have them like that
Where can we buy those replacement plastic pucks?
Bagoros Performance
How the rear footpegs of the bike are called ?
Rear sub cage or rear cage most often
Maybe it’s here somewhere already, but can you please post a link of where I can get the fork and swing arm protectors please? Thank you! Your channel is amazing! Appreciate all of the stuff you’re sharing!🙏🏼
You can find the links to what I use here www.motomirius.com/upgrade-links/stunt-and-protection-links
@@MotoMirius Thanks for a great informative video. I'm in the U.S. Coober and Bagoros are sold out of both the sub frame and front crash pegs. Currently, waiting for in stock update. Anyone know where I can buy faster? Also, where can I get Handle bar weights?
I actually jumped the gun and bought the ktm crash gaurd and bagoros crash bobbin and the bottom motor slider. But since i kept the crash gaurd I couldn't install the other 2!
Would you say the crash gaurd is a better pick over the bagoros crash bobbin that uses the same bolt location as the ktm crash gaurd? Plus the orange case sliders?
Now I'm stuck with 2 parts I can't use.
Thanks for all your videos!
Thanks. Yeah, it's a bit unfortunate that you can't use both. It depends on your riding. Crash guard is the best protection but some people want minimal and subtle protection so the compromise is the sliders. I run both at different times.
@@MotoMirius I'm a new rider but I want the most protection for when I drop the bike by chance. I currently have the Bagaros sub frame with the pegs and love that it extends outs. Plus the ktm crash gaurd for drop protection. Waiting for the front bagaros pegs to come back in stock. Too bad there's no additional radiator gaurd I can add with the ktm crash gaurd. I noticed some generic ones that does have a bobbin sticking out of the crash gaurd but I'm unsure of their mount points.
Looking to maybe get my step daughter a duke 200 because we don't have 125s in Canada.
I want to take an advanced rider course next year and the following year dirt bike riding course. And jaut keep taking courses and learning more.
Sorry for the long reply.
@@TrueDreams No problem. Rear subframe, front cage and front sliders and you are pretty much good to go. I've low sided the bike and high sided the bike with this and it has been fine. When I highsided I broke my arm but the only damage to the bike was some scratches on the cage and on the end of the handlebars.
@@MotoMirius so the cage does a decent job of keep the rad off the ground?
That was the only main protection that was lacking with ktm crash gaurd.
Nothing really can be done to save the bar / handles and grips as they'll just drop and break and twist.
Thanks again for all the awesome videos.
@@MotoMirius Wishing you a speedy recovery. I want to buy everything you mentioned but they are out of stock unfortunately. Any ideas where else to buy? I'm kinda hesitant to ride without them. I just bought a 2020 Duke 390 less than 3k miles, so I'm trying to keep it immaculate and fully protected before really riding out.
How did you remove the reflectors from the front forks?
They will pull off if you carefully pull them - they are just held on by a foam pad
@@MotoMirius thanks for the quick response. Your the man!
Hi, wanted to ask you from where did you get your engine crash bar?
Engine crash cage is KTM Powerparts
@@MotoMirius many thanks! Searched for it and it seems its extremely hard to find it from where Im - Bulgaria. :( Have to order it from somewhere else in Europe. But any way, great video and many, many thanks again!
@@volenstanislavov2166 It's a stock item for many KTM dealers, but good luck with that, it's rare I'm able to buy what I want from my own country when buying bike parts.
@@MotoMirius You were right! Actually found the part number in KTM powerparts section and found in Germany dealer, which is very low price for shipping and little time to get it here. Once again, much appreciated!
Hi..im planning to put on the engine crash bar..does it scrape or hit the road when heavy conering or almost knee down?
Thank you in advance
If it is the Powerparts cage then no. I'm sure it's possible to scrape it but I suspect you'll run out of tyre first. In the picture for this video it is resting on the cage which will give you some idea of the angle you'd need
@@MotoMirius ok thanks bro 👍
David,
You’re so well versed in the parts for the 390 I hope you can help me find better options. Whilst practicing motogymkhana I drop the bike at 0-5 mph.
I have an SW Motech engine guard (pretty, svelte!, protective, invisible!). I am searching for something as demure as this for the rear-especially to protect the aftermarket silencer!
Your (rear) crash cage is garish for me. Can you recommend anything else?
And you’re right, the rear peg frames act as protection on the left ~well enough, but, on the right the oem silencer was slight deflected and helped by the tin shield at the base. 220419
I've seen quite a few complaints about the SW Motech engine guard damaging the frame and not protecting the engine - maybe its ok at 5mph. You have a choice between pretty and invisible or choosing something that will actually protect the bike - you can have one or the other There is very little choice in rear protection which is a main reason why I use the rear frame that I do - there are other stunt cages out there for the rear but even more in your face. You might see if you can find a long enough delrin slider that will screw into the swinging arm - I have seen this, for 5 mph maybe ok.
SW motech crash bars will destroy your upper engine mounts eventually. The construction of those bars is not proper for the bike. I used the powerparts crash bars (in the video) and front fork sliders for my gymkhana sessions in the last season. Crashed about 15 times so far, it did really well for such a tiny protection kit. The only thing that’s gone is stock handlebars - it’s bent heavily. I also bent my tank slightly 😂 Can’t wait to test out the same kit David has (Rok Bagoros front pegs, subcage and handlebars + powerparts crash bars) the next season!
Forgot to mention shorty/folding levers - they are an absolute musthave. Stock clutch lever will break and take away its mounting system. Had that replaced as well.
Aaaand… if you ever use handguards like powerparts make for bigger CC KTMs, please take care and keep an eye on them. I had those, they eventually went loose, and I was too careless to tighten right away. When the bike went down the very next time, a handguard rotated and smashed the TFT display of my Duke 😂 So, take care
Hello,are these the same parts for the 125 200 250 and 390, or is it different ? Thanks !
Hi, most parts are the same - the chassis etc are much the same, differences are mostly related to engine, electronics, lights (for some countries) and wheels/ suspension (because of power and weight differences). Of course you should check before buying depending on what you are looking at.
@@MotoMirius So whether we take for a 125 or 390 it's the same for models from 2017
Within the limitations I noted yes - some things also remain the same with the BS6 model from 2021. There is also some compatibility of parts with the Svartpilen and Vitpilen 125/401. But double check before spending money. You will note for example that my 390 often has 125 panels on it when I fancy a colour change - because they are the same. The new 2024 Duke is different.@@mathieu0151
@@MotoMiriusthank you for this information
If you check the community page on my UA-cam Page - www.youtube.com/@MotoMirius you will see a photo of the current build of my bike. Note the 'stock' parts fitted that are not from a 390 Duke. @@mathieu0151
Sir how to install duke 390 tft display on my duke 250bs6 please sir reply me 💔😞
Unlikely to happen - tft runs its own software - and it needs to talk to the bike ECU, so you need a software engineer who can hack into the locked ECU to rewrite the code in your 250 to talk to the tft software - and it's all CANBUS. If you want the 390 tft on your bike the cheapest solution is to upgrade to a 390
@@MotoMirius thanks sir ❤️
The alternative is to find a country where the 250 has the tft and buy the ECU for that country. But you will still need someone to setup the software.
OP
Quel es la marque du guidon ?
Magura mais n'est plus fabriqué. Bagoros Performance stocke un guidon similaire
@@MotoMirius merci il es possible de voir d'autre photo ailleurs ?
@@Diiablo99 Des photos de quoi ? Si vous voulez dire Bagoros Performance - ils sont sur leur site Web
@@MotoMirius des photos du votre
You look better on the BMW GS ADV than this one according to your height and appearance
This is a taller bike than it looks, it's just like any other dirt bike. One day I will be experimenting with the ADV bikes - I've not owned one since the 1980's
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Thanks
Have you got insurance on your 390?
I ride it on the road. It's fully insured and the insurer is aware of all the mods.
@@MotoMirius if I tell my insurer I just had some mods installed do they pay you out more? U know what i mean?
@@Massacheefa Ha! No. They will look to charge you more premium - it's more about if you don't tell them then it gives them an excuse to refuse to payout on your claim - and on any claim from someone else leaving you uninsured.
Stunting is an expensive hobby, possibly reconsider.
Racing, stunting, all are expensive - why reconsider?
I agree that we need to protect our bikes. However, I must admit that those protection gears make the bike looks absolutely aweful, ugly. I cant stand how the bike look after installing all of those essential protection accessories.
You don't have to go the full stunt route. You do that when you know the bike is going to be hitting the ground. You can go a much more subtle road route where you hope the bike doesn't hit the ground but will help minimise the damage by shifting it to replaceable and more subtle accessories instead
@@MotoMirius Thank you. I see your point. But the crash bar is really ugly. Sadly for me, I tried Gymkhana last week and I felt in love with Gymkhana right away. It means that I must install KTM or SW Motech Crash Bar to explore the limit of my Duke 390 2016 AND my riding ability without ruining my bike. For normal street riding to work/home, I will never install those ugly crash bars. I saw them in real life from my friends' Duke 390 before.
@@patrolduty8715 crash bars are not essential - you can use case sliders - but appreciate they will likely only last two or three slides - but that is the price you pay for keeping the look of the bike. For most of last year my bike did not have crash bars on it, only case sliders - and if you go with the black ones, probably hardly visible. But yes, crash bars will be good for practicing - same is true of stunting - lots of the good stuntriders don't use the cages for displays, just for learning and practice.
@@MotoMirius yeah, I dont mind replace sliders after low speed practice crash. What makes me worry about frame sliders is they can damage my chasis compared to crash bar with proper link brace.
@@patrolduty8715 Indeed, which is why I use the Bagoros Performance ones which have a connecting bar though to the slider on the other side of the bike. I prefer to buy my crash protection from a company that is built out of stunting this particular bike. I am reluctantly going to put the cage back on soon because I want to get back to playing with the bike and see if I can work up to getting the bike through a 180 degree slide/ drift of the back wheel and I know that will involve a lot of low speed drops until this time I actually learn how to do it.
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