Basic Crash/ Stunt Protection installation - KTM 390 125 200 250 Duke
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Let's make a start on some basic crash/ stunt protection on the KTM 390 Duke
KTM powerparts crash cage seems to be a better colour match than the aftermarket copies, but if buying new be aware that the threads are painted, so either carefully use a bolt or a M12x1.5 tap to clean the threads before you install.
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Nice addition to the bike. I hope the frame isn't twisted, I don't think it is from a slide down the road, but you never know. Good luck with the rest of the bike.
Cheers Ivan. As you say it shouldn’t be bent and it’s a very new bike. Buying second hand is always a bit of a gamble as you never know it’s exact history. Fingers crossed. Skäl. David
Hey David , I love this little ktm , it's going to be fun all the way ..
Thanks for sharing your exploits again , I always have a mad day on fridays with work and then the inevitable mechanical chores at home (van stuff today) but once im sorted cleaned and fed i look forward to your videos its a good chill out ...cheers brother (escort tomorrow) ..there's always something !!
peace and love buddy 👍☮❤
Thanks Springy, glad it helps you chill out. I’m looking forward to this bike for the pure fun factor. Just having some issues with registering it, all my fault. Forms have now gone back to DVLA for the third time now 😂😂😂😂. Skäl. David
Great addition, hope you don’t find anymore nasty surprises! Loving the homemade T bar 👍🏻
Ha! Wondered if anyone would notice that. Rarely use it but just right when you do. This should be it now. Until I throw it down the road and break it again. I have a couple more things to fit so this will be not only my commuter but an ongoing project. Hope you have a great weekend. Skäl. David
Nice video yet again. 😁
hey!
I wonder, what size is the top mount bolts? Great video by the way ;)
Hello, thank you for your videos...can you share the Torque specs on those mounting points?
Front and rear are 49 Nm. The top doesn't have a specific torque, so I would just tighten it. Be aware that this all assumes that there is no paint or powdercoat in the threads - which there normally is with the OEM guards
The engine crash guard is really good for protecting the engine.
I installed this without using any special tool,
The difficult and most important part is the engine holding knot (the one you got the broken hanger)
I got no issues installing this crash guard.
That's good. Sometimes people have trouble getting the bolts in, especially in that top mount because the powdercoat is in the threads and needs to be cleaned out before you put the bolt in.
@@MotoMirius One thing that I did to make it easier is to use the one bolt included with the crash guard, then use the hammer 🔨 to smash it lightly enough with rubber or any clothes at the head of the original bolt, to push the old one out while the new bolt being inserted into the hanger hole.
But be careful to smash lightly.
@@1xplorer great tip, did you use a jack or rear stand to help, or just the side stand ?
@@JeffOConnorAU No, nothing additional just hammer and the clothes/rubber for protection for the bolt head.
I think you can imagine how I do it, first thing first:
- park the bike 🏍 in stationary with side-stand
- unscrew the engine-hanger bolt, the one that we will install the crash guard
- keep the original bolt in place,
- use the givens bolt that come with the crash guard, the longest one
- put the new bolt’s tail ( this part has screwed pattern) right on the original bolt tail (the one we are going to push out from the engine and hanger hole)
- try pushing it with hammer lightly in order to insert it in the engine-hanger hole
Tip*** You can use additional supporting for the engine in case it drops from the hanger, but as long as you smash the bolt well, you don’t need it
@@1xplorer Thanks for those tips, gonna do this tomorrow, makes sense !
Video perfect.
I wanted to know if you could give me a link to the gear selector you installed please?
Thanks. What 'gear selector' are you referring to?
Hi, appreciate you done a great job to show how to fix the ktm 390. i have problem on the reat frame. i cannot found the steps to teak off the rear frame(the white frame), do you have the experience on it? thanks.
Thanks. I haven't done a video on it yet and I won't be doing one soon. It isn't hard, but it is quite time intensive - depends what you are trying to do.
Hiya just bought sone crash bars unsure on the year tho gonna try for them to my 2021 125 duke do the bolts what’s already in the bike work or do I need more bolts
If you bought the KTM Powerparts ones they come with longer bolts. If you saved money with used but didn’t get the bolts or bought the Chinese ones that don’t come with the bolts then you’ll need to buy the bolts. Which need to be the right grade of steel so probably hard to find and not cheap.
Great video and looking forward to seeing and hearing about your adventures on this KTM. Do you recommend any places or sites to buy accident damaged bikes?
Regards RR
Cheers for that. There are a couple of places that do it on eBay. The one I bought from works for the insurance companies so you have some confidence that it isn’t structurally damaged and is HPI clear. Whether it’s value for money is harder to judge. Resale value is lower and whilst you can get it insured I’m pretty sure they will be painful if you ever need to claim. On the other hand there are plenty of previously crashed bikes being sold to unaware buyers. And bikes with clear log books are now coming back marked up with previous write offs even the sellers were unaware of. There are good reasons to do it but there are drawbacks too of course. Great to hear from you again. 👍 skäl. David
Hi David, as you watch the bike from the left side, the hole of the crash bar under the exhaust pipe does have a bolt?
The crash bars fit with three bolts, two through the main engine mounts - one front, one back (the one you mention) and the frame mounting of the engine mount. All three require bolts - the stock ones are too short.
Would you happen to have a link or name of the bars that protect the radiator that you mentioned?
There is an Indian made more Adventure oriented version of these bars which also include radiator protection but I don't recall the name. If you are running a road oriented bike you could use the KTM case guards with the Bagoros Performance radiator guards. I wouldn't recommend the ones that just bolt over the radiator because these risk damaging the frame in a crash (and have done) - cheaper to buy a new radiator than a new bike.
if you remove the 2 support rods and if without the jack to support the weight of the engine block, will engine block drop down? I don't have jack and I wonder if it is safe to do the installation on my own.
It's always good practice to support the engine when removing engine mountings, and if the rear of the engine drops down even a very small amount then it could be quite hard to get the new rod through - a basic jack is all that is needed, it doesn't have to be an expensive hydraulic unit. Most people will know someone who has one or can borrow one from their car. Good luck! Skäl David
Hi David,
Diese Teile passt genau für 125 duke 2020 auch?
Danke für die Videos.
Danke Peti. Mir sind keine Rahmenänderungen an der Euro-Spezifikation KTM Duke 125 bekannt. KTM listet sie als kompatibel mit Ihrem Fahrrad auf. Skäl David
A crashbung attached to the top mounting point may give the radiator some protection.
Thanks Karl. Yes, that is what I’m thinking but it needs to be tied into the crash cage because otherwise all it will do is fold when it hits the deck. Good to hear from you again. Skäl. David
Hi Moto Mirius, I appreciate the video as I am buying a cage for the engine but my question is regarding the fork sliders, I havent installed the front left one because i didnt want to risk doing anything without knowing about it, so my question is when you remove the front left bolt and install the slider in its place do you have to torque it to spec or just rely on feeling, and is it safe to remove the bolt and replace it with an alan screw bolt?
Thank you very much for your content as it helped me install a slip on on my 390 all by myself.
Hi and thanks. It would be better to torque to spec if you can. I would leave the bolt - allen screws are more likely to round out and you would need to find one of the same grade as the bolt.
In Finland there is a shit ton of newer 125 Dukes that have the crash bars. I wonder if the bars are the same for the 390. If so, I could try to get used crash bars for cheap for my 390.
125 and 390 crash bars are interchangeable as far as I'm aware - the engine mounting points are all pretty much in the same place - people have put 390 engines into 125 frames. Skäl David
I guess I'll start messaging people then. Thank you for the fast answer.
Nice video, how much torque would u put on the screw/bolt holding the crash bars ? Cheers
Engine mounting bolts are 49Nm, no value for the top bolt - this assumes the threads have had the powerdercoat removed from them which is always an issue. Skäl David
Thxs for the quick reply, cheers !!!
fingers crossed David, But, think you will be OK, if the frame was bent, I wouldnt have thought anything else would have lined up. Can I ask about your T bar? shop bough or home made mate? looks a handy tool to have in the box.
Fingers crossed yes Chris. Thanks. I’m pretty sure it will be ok. The bracket only fell apart when I lifted the engine a bit with the jack. Skäl. David
Can i put a 2019 ktm duke 390 engine in to a 2016 ktm duke 390
Yes. But you will need to make some workarounds such as the gear position sensor to make it work.
Can u fit them on the stock motorbike fittings?
They fit the stock mounting points yes - this is a KTM product designed specifically to be fitted to this bike.
Excellent...🥰👍🏽👍🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Thanks Ronald. Much appreciated. Skäl. David
Hi David another great video!!
I hope the new engine bracket doesn't cause you any problems
Do you need to get that from Kawasaki.
What your next job for the weekend?
Cheers Garry
Bracket is all ordered up and ready to be fitted. Fingers crossed it’s a simple enough job. Need to carry on with the rear mudguard on the XVS if I can this weekend. Skäl. David
Well I hope it works out for you!!
Have you plans for the mudguard yet or are you still in the planing stage.
Will forage be up to night or sunday
I’m out and about today so won’t get into the shed until tomorrow. Will edit during the week so probably not up till next Friday.
Cant decide if I want this or sliders. Its going to be a commuter bike. Would crash guard be better for me as a commuter bike?
Cage will provide better protection than sliders. If it is a commuter bike where looks are less important than functionality, go with the cage.
@@MotoMirius thank you. I went with the crash guards. Should have the bike back from the shop this week after a battery issue and getting the guards out on.
is a old video, but why your crash cage doesn't have the sliders of its the ktm one, i bought from my country ktm dealer and have sliders on both sides
Sliders are on the first generation model. The cage for the second gen bikes don’t have sliders. That said they seem to fit both generations. www.ams4ktm.co.uk/crash-bars-390. Skäl. David
@@MotoMirius ooh well.. that is a shame by ktm to sell them apart, at least with slider the rad and pedals for brake and gear are more protected, thx man
I would agree with you but from the damaged ones I’ve seen for sale and complaints from people who have crashed, I think KTM deleted the slider because it’s fragile and rips off without adding protection. I have crashed with these and the gear lever is protected. Skäl. David
Doesn't it hamper gear shifting and braking??
No, not unless perhaps you have enormously large feet. Cage will not be close to the levers.
Sir, Do the crash bars protect the radiator?
With the sliders on the forks yes. I would prefer a higher crash bar but the alternatives such as SW Motech have poor reviews regarding frame damage caused by poor choice of attachment to the frame.
@@MotoMirius Thank you for this information! Do you have any link to this reviews regarding the SW Motech cage? I thought the approach with the bar connecting both sides would be a good idea.
link to buy it?
Link on these expire too quickly. You can either buy Powerparts from a KTM dealer (including online) or you can buy a cheaper Chinese copy but be aware the colour may not match very well. Skäl David
Do you think that between the case saver and the handlebars together might save the radiator?
If you have a proper off road handlebar such as the Magura then in my experience of high siding the bike, yes. If you have a stock handlebar then it's a gamble because it will bend - you might get away with a low speed slide. Skäl David
At 7:39 in your video you mentioned that corrosion is a problem “with these Indian bikes.”
I am new to the KTM Brand and have just purchased a 2015 KTM Duke 690. I know that KTM is an Austria brand. From your comment, does that mean that KTM has a production plant in India?
KTM makes the small Dukes 125 to 390 in India - I believe they have assembly plants elsewhere but I think the parts are made in India - it's all subcontracted to an Indian bike manufacturer Bajaj - KTM will make all the up to 500cc bikes (Duke, RC and Adventure) in India. As far as I'm aware all of the larger bikes such as yours have been and are made in Austria.
Apologies if my comment sounds like I’m a newbie to the KTM brand. That’s because I know nothing about KTM and all of a sudden I own one and am researching. I didn’t mean to come across as silly. I appreciate your video OP.
No problem 👍
Nice sar
Thanks Bijay. Skäl. David
It's suitable for my #KTMRC390 or Not Sir..?? 🤔
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No. Maybe if you took the lower fairing off.
That not a indian bike
Built by Bajaj, the second largest motorcycle manufacturer in India