Trail Arm's Role in Golf Swing: One Simple Move That Changes Everything!
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Understand the role of the right arm in your golf swing with Rob Cheney. This video will show the correct trail wrist bends and motions relative to the right arm. Learn how to move your trail arm and wrist to achieve a more consistent and powerful impact position.
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Rob is always awesome, not trying to clickbait you into an easy fix, but understanding the underlying issues that effect your ball flight.
But it looks wrong to me. Google search 'Jon Sinclair trail forearm graphs' for 65 of the best pro golfers (ie. ones that have won majors and multiple pga tournaments). You will find that their trail forearms supinate for most of the golf downswing until just a split second from impact where they lose a slight amount of supination. But their trail forearm are frankly in supination at impact . Rob is forgetting that there is a certain amount of upper body pivot , plus some trail shoulder protraction , plus internal rotation of the trail upper arm that assists in clubface closure while the forearm increases its supination . There is also something called circumduction of the trail wrist that happens by the coupled movement of ulnar deviation and flexion that will tend to open the clubface , not close it . The real reason for clubface closure is supination of the lead forearm , while the trail wrist is actually trying to control too much 'Rate Of Closure'. But obviously this seems to happen with pros who have superior swing biomechanics than recreational golfers.
If Rob wishes to discuss the reality using AMM3D graphs and other scientific proof from world renowned golf biomechanical experts,there is a 'closed user group' forum called ' Golf Biomechanics' on facebook hosted by Nick Chertock.
I agree👍his information has helped me a great deal
Thanks, Rodney!
Rob, many thanks for this. It's unbelievable how simple and clear your explanation is and how excellent the results are following it!
Appreciate the feedback. Thanks! 🙏🏻
I have to say this is an absolutely amazing video! I was doing something several years ago where it felt like my trail arm was chopping like a karate chop or something like that. And I was hitting the ball amazingly well and I had never considered that they can all three move independently the way you describe in this video. Also I love that you made it position one two three with each separate component! That is perfectly actionable! This makes sense as I have just solved a lot more of how the trail Hand Works and and how to use and create lag etc. This makes so much sense. I can't thank you enough for this video
Love it, Jacob! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Very precise explanation. Most videos don't give the full story on this. Well done.
Thank you! 🙏🏻
I have to say that I wondered about the open club face. This has cleared it up for me.
BOOM -- GAME CHANGER!! Beautiful in explanation/discussion, and simplicity of application.
Thanks! 🙏🏻
Awesome explanation, Rob
Thanks, Danny! 👍🏻
K.I.S.S. Extensor action fixes all of this. It guarantees proper left and right arm rotation, both of which involve only the upperarm,the brachii, if you will. Pull on the grip in both directions gently like keeping a rope taut. Hold that gentle tug taut throughout the swing. Your arms will rotate perfectly. Homer Kelly described this in Golfing Machine. Hogan did it, although he never said he did. He appeared to. Keeps the left arm straight, too. Try it. Works for me.
brilliant!
Finally someone else has done this it absolutely works. Like you commented gently. I'm gonna have to read the golfing machine, I've read articles and books back to vardon but never Homer k.
Rob...best explanation ever!!! I have been looking for an explanation on how to transfer the elbow tucked to the impact position. Excellent!!!!!!
Glad it as so helpful! 👍🏻
Worked for me. Improved 10 shots over recent rounds!
Thank you that’s brilliantly explained
Just exactly! what I needed right now.. I control the elbow and than 1 of 3 shots are terrible slices… now I understand why…
Will try immediately on a course!
Thank you for a great and crisp explanations!
Another good demonstration Rob
Thanks, Bob!
Thank you sir.
awesome explanation Rob (as usual) of one of those "tiny" but "MASSIVE" issues.....so good.
Rob, Thanks for your golf content. I appreciate it! You are awesome!
Excellent presentation. I had been told to get the pit of the trail elbow facing away, and I did improve contact, but at times would hit a very high weak slice. This info on the wrist position is the missing link. Thanks!
FANTASTIC!
Thank you rob thanks for the update sometimes I get to fast on my set up by using the 3 technique
Great video! I have been trying to improve my trail arm and wrist, so this was timely for me.
Rob is the Don!!!!
With your swing which I think is spot on how much "power" do you supply with the trail arm or js it just along for the ride?
True power in the golf swing is coming from the larger muscles. Your legs, core, and back are the engine that creates the power. Personally, I wouldn't "feel" like I am creating power with the trail arm. This may lead to some bad swing habits.
I always feel like the lead arm is simply an extension of the club that connects to the body. The trail arm is what controls the path the club takes and the way the club head is delivered to the ball (ie face angle to path).
Excellent lesson. Very well explained. You are a great teacher
You’re awesome, Rob!
Thanks! Miss is a terrible hook. Have doozies even when keeping trail wrist bent but elbow must be P2 heading for P1. P2 plus a little early release and you can do 5' high hooks out of trees around a dogleg...not so useful off the tee. I now fully appreciate why Hogan had the image of elbows in & bound with a wrap. Also cupped left wrist. I actively wring my hands on the grip to resist trail forearm over rotating.
Hack motion would record a huge variety of things during my bad rounds. 😂
It was while rebooting my swing after retiring in my late 50s with Hogan’s Five Lessons that I realized the hidden genius of the Vardon style grip, used properly, is that it literally forces the trail arm to fold ideally creating the leverage necessary to control the club IF one takes the club away outside the hands as Hogan suggested.
Prior to rebooting according to Hogan I had swing faults I now see in many beginning and self-taught intermediate golfers: an underhanded grip with the trail hand which allows the lead arm to rotate and pronate the lead hand resulting in the club swinging inside too far back which then causes the lead arm to bend at the elbow dooming the swing to mediocrity and chronic slicing.
While working through Hogans book I also bought one of the short weighted grip trainers moulded to put the hands in the proper place. Because it is too short to ground it also forces you to grip the club in the arm with bent elbows at sides which I realized made it much easier to get my hands together properly and caused my forearms and hands to rotate inward (>
Ok what is your swing speed and handicap?
Priceless quality info.
Thanks for sharing.
Grateful Aussie.
My HM arrived today, cant wait to try it out (hopefully tomorrow)!
This is sooo good. Very much appreciated 🙏
Absolutely Brillant and easy to understand video 👋👋
Great information , always look forward to data based facts, great Video
Outstanding explanation!
Thank you!
Excellent, thank you!
Great content Rob! Can you hit and hold a green with just this swing ? 128 carry 150 total with drawspin looks more suited to advancing the ball forward.
Quality Information
Very interesting....thanks for posting
Appreciate this
Great and true
I like this video, I’ve been incorrectly doing elbow at 3 with hands/wrists at 3 too 🤦♂️😢
Do the2 elbows rest on the front of the chest?
at the address?
If so, do they stay that way throughout the swing?
The Golfing Machine 3 elbow positions:
Pitch
Push
Punch
Agreed?
But with maintaining the Primary Imperative: At impact the lead wrist must be flat level and vertical.
Wow... way too confusing with all that position numbers.
A gem for getting in a pro set up position. If the grip is caressed so the wrists can hinge naturally , does the club face square up naturally if I can keep those pesky swing wrecking hands out of the equation? Thanks heaps
So basically we want to preset impact wrist conditions and hold them through the swing until after the release?
My mis is the pull hook just like you hit in this video. How do you stop that?
Pull hook can happen for a lot of reasons! It could be as simple as your grip it could be not turning your body enough it could be having really fast arms it could be something you do with your hands. Are you even correct and describing it as a pull hook? There's no one quick fix for that but if I had any guess it'd probably just be your grip.
Consistency of wrist position is my biggest problem right now. I know it, I know which position is correct, I know which positions I tend to use naturally, but I can’t seem to use the correct one repeatedly without it being my sole swing thought. Do you have any drills to engrained it into my swing?
You are moving trail wrist back during the takeaway. Like when show using the impact precision ?
@Ericksonbellgolf training aid seems to lock you into this position.
awesome
A side benefit of this is how it helps. naturally flatten the lead wrist.
Find a piece of scrap 1/8 inch thick plastic and cut a 2x5 inch piece. Slide one end under your velcro glove strap and the other end under your watch or golf watch to keep your left wrist straight. The plastic is not conductive, so it won't interfere with your electric watch charging conductors on the back side!. Some credit cards are metal. You also might drop your credit card on the course, and you'll be driving around looking for it.
What was the tool you used to measure what was happening with your trail wrist.
It’s called Hack Motion
Are you saying and explaining that you should keep and maintain the form and structure of your trail arm (as established at address) during the backswing and downswing? Is it that simple????
I was today days old when I realized I could preset my right wrist for minimal rotation through impact, and still keep my elbow in a good position to fold and drop. What a stupid I am!
How about your left arm ?
Why can't you just set up with closed face and keep arm and wrist in position 3 then face will open to square at impact
Rob I’ve watched this a couple of times, knowing it’s vital, however I just don’t grasp it due to complexity. Can you not break this complexed forearm and wrist into 2 videos or when you instruct show how not to do it initially, but not mention it again as I’m getting lost between the methodology. can’t you call the elbow forearm) position 1-3 and your wrist a-c? Sorry guess it’s my age, there always has to be one plonker😮 that’s getting confused.
Looks like you're making a punch shot not allowing the trail wrist to unhinge. Interesting but more to it than discussed imo. Essentially you're " holding on" ie: consciously controlling the wrists.
That seems very handsy. Chest rotation and wind up will square up the clubface without so much hand rotation. Seems inconsistent and difficult as a method.
It went 15 yards left. I already fight a dead pull.
Did you at least try it? If you try it and compress the ball more you can always adjust for poles and pushes.
p.s. including the shape and form of your right hand at address.
ya, but you just hit 2 big pull hooks?
So this is what Pete Cowan meant by spinning the forearm, only explained much better……
Great drill but You forgot to mention you have to spend an additional $700 for trail hand data for the same device you purchased for your lead hand. Pathetic!!
you memtion positions of yhe hand as 1 2 and 3 without ever showing exactly what you mean
Apart from the explanation of 1, 2 and 3 at around 2 mins in you mean. 😳
Very good tip
Total nonsense ,club
Face will ,be open ,all,
I mean ,all the time .
I have seen this ,advise
By maney supposedly
Pro , and all say swing
Like this no 1 not
Swing ,like no 2 .
And both swings are the same and no
Difference .
They say one thing
And do another thing .
You have to ,turn your
Wrist in ward to bring
Face of club parallel to the ball . It goes wrong
All the time .
I fail to see any point to this whole exercise. If you forget about your trail arm/elbow/wrist/hand position and concentrate on your lead hand. Back of hand facing target on impact.
Because the lead arm doesn't generate a whole lot of power! The trail elbow and wrist are very significant levers in a golf swing!
Tell us how you turned pro?
@@therealBocaStudios12 years of trial and error. Read over 400 books, watched tens of thousands of videos, literally tried every tip or trick that I read or saw anywhere. Took lessons for years(lol😅 made me worse).
Basically the way anyone turns pro. Get a little better every day. Find and keep quality information. Play a lot of practice in a lot of training.