I own that weapon, the fact Clint did that without taking his eyes off the guy or fumbling the mechanics of the cylinder makes the dude more than a man.
Movie gun. Just a guess, but I was the armorer I would bore the cylinder out a bit more to give a larger margin of error for inserting the pin, and I'd probably weld or braze stops on the left side for the cylinder to roll to. Movie magic. Still, one of the all-time badass scenes from any western and 100% of the reasons I bought an 1858.
Forreal dude no joke ! First time I got mine it took me 5-10 minutes to put the cylinder in. Now it takes me 25 seconds on a really good day. He practiced day in and day out to get that right for this movie. What a badass
Boy, that's no joke. Definitely a 'hold your mouth right' kind of operation. I can do it about as fast as you'd reload a gated revolver now, but it took a good deal of practice & profanity.
The cap and ball revolver I have the most experience with and is my choice because of that is (and Im not kidding) the lemat, 10 shots with 9 .44 round balls and a single 16 gauge shotgun barrel that can either have birdshot, buckshot or a 58 caliber minie ball stuck in it.
@@luger_Mann Lemats have issues with the ram rod you have to pull the ram rod up every time you shoot and in the civil war soldiers hated them. It is ether, uberti,colt, Ruger, and Remington. Remington is the easiest to cartridge converts because you can take the cylinders out easily. Even before you could get cartridge converts soldiers would have multiple loaded cylinders and was a favorite among officers but was more expensive.
@@RaoulThomas007 They were built different those days, plus that seems like a pussy move to think of it. JK, that’s a movie for ya any sane person would have popped him at that point 🤣.
@@RaoulThomas007 people knew what gunfighters honor was. There were rules back then, never shoot a man in the back. never shoot a man reloading if he hasn’t already fired. If it was mid fight and he reloaded then you could shoot him
@@rktman1965what pouches are you using? I can’t find any enclosed leather pouches that fit the cylinder well. They’re either too small/tight or they’re too large.
@@timothy____1989 I'm not actually using an existing pouch , there is a leather worker here in coastal north Carolina who does bespoke work on leather gun belts who is building the preacher rig. I have some leather working tools but don't yet have the skills to do this , definitely not to the level of the guy I know.
@@rktman1965 my search continues. If your NC source is ok with it, could you post their how-to-contact info, website, etc, please? Also thanks for the name of the rig!
Clint makes it look easy ! I'm finally getting the hang of it, but still sometimes it takes a few minutes to change cylinders ! ( The 1858 is a lot easier to swap, than the Colts were...with the Colt you had to take the gun apart to swap cylinders !)
Ok, I tried to do the cylinder swap like that. It took me about 5, FIVE! minutes to do it,, while standing still,, and looking right at it,, and concentrating. So, I don't know if 1. it was a prop gun and he didn't really do it, or 2. Clint practiced for hours and had the gun spruced up to be easier, or 3. if Clint's just that cool. I suspect it's a combo of 2 and 3.
When you get these guns slicked up and practice a lot, it gets easier. I'm not saying that like I'm cool for it or something. Just some nerd playing with their adult fidget spinners while watching UA-cam videos
The 1858 has a very specific motion you have to use to get that cylinder into place that seems really hard at first but when you know how to work it it's easier than you think.
@@emiliovillarreal2486 Cylinders you mean? Depends on the gun, for Pietta around $70-100 each. Worth having a couple spares though if you own a 1858 imo.
I can realistically my S&W revolver way faster with my speed loaders than I can reload my semi auto. But my revolver has 5 and my semi auto has 17 so it balances out
Youd have to remove the wedge which is tough I've heard, then youd have to remove the barrel which is easier and then you could swap cylinders, definitely wouldn't be as easy as this but you can see 1851's reloading like that in "the sisters brothers" good movie
Simple answer - yes. Though only the remington allows you to do it without disasembling the gun, you can do it just as easily with the Colts. Properly fitted, the wedge comes out with a bit of pressure from your thumb, and then you take off the barrel (and put it in your pocket, or hold it with the same hand that's holding the revolver), replace the cylinder, and replace the barrel.
Its not a conversion. Its the changing of pre-loaded cylinders. A belt is worn w however many small cylinder pouches. Pre-load at home.. and one cylinder per pouch, safe & secure. 5 pouches.. quick-loading.
Missy Victoria I believe op was stating that they have a Remington 1858 that has a conversion cylinder which allows for the use of metallic cartridges. Clint Eastwood is also using a Remington with a conversion cylinder in this scene.
Clint's here is an old-school gunsmith only Civil War type conversion, under the Rollin White patent. Modern conversions either have a loading gate, or extended "caps" that fire separate hammers. Clint's is infinitely cooler, and a lot more expensive, unless you have the right skills or know a good gunsmith
@@Platano_macho What kind do you have? An Uberti or a Pietta? Most of mine are Pietta's since they tend to be cheaper and used to be easier to get. I had a hard time finding an Stainless Pietta with a 5.5 inch barrel so that's the only Uberti I have. It took over 6 months for it to be delivered. However, I made my purchase around the time Django Unchained was released so the New Model Armies were all the rage for awhile.
Interesting reload. This is always one of those things, to my knowledge that didn’t occur much back then. Prolonged fights weren’t common, finding replacement cylinders would be very difficult since they were mostly sizes individually from the factory (and were not intended to be replaced), and powder fouling would be a major issue. Fun in the big screen tho.
More common than you think. First let's look at manufacturing. You are gonna tell me that people were so bad at metal working that they couldn't be precise and consistent. No, these people made extremely accurate watch makers with interchangeable parts for same models. That is why repairing them was cheap. Few sources talked or wrote about. Well official sources didn't. Unofficial sources did. I go by an axum. "if the officers said it didn't happen, but the grunts say it did. Then it most definitely did happen." Basically newspapers and reports say it didn't happen, but regular people did. So it did happen. Powder fouling is not a big issue if you use gun grease (beeswax and natural oil) and putting in a fresh cylinder mitigates fouling.
@@timesthree5757 i have to disagree on the grunts thing as well though. Grunts also said Garand ping was an issue and m1 carbines couldn’t cut through winter jackets. I want actual sources of this occurring. Powder fouling also isn’t just in the cylinder, black powder gets in every bit of the gun. Are there any historical examples of this occurring outside of Hollywood?
@@Pershath08 yes 1899 Hot springs AR gunfight between city police and sheriff department. One of the deputies had an unconverted 1858 new Army and 3 cylinders (from different new Army) that was inherited. Whiteness saw him cylinder swap twice in the gun fight. Hundreds of journals from the time period. One journal that I thought was good. Was in 1867 in the North west. Washington I believe. Anyway the mountain man was charged by a bar (that is how the guy spelled it) he emptied the cylinder and loaded a fresh one and shot it empty till the bear ran off.
The revolvers used at the time were not designed around swapping cylinders. These revolvers were not reloaded historically because it was a finicky and often very slow way to reload. It would be interesting to see a revolver that is actually designed around this type of speed reloading
For some reason I can't upload the entire final shootout from this movie. UA-cam keeps blocking it. If anyone wants to check it out (I think it is one of the coolest in the history of cinema),: drive.google.com/file/d/1w_gpZfyS6VBk_UprYDNtf0JJfT53MBGt/view?usp=sharing
I own that weapon, the fact Clint did that without taking his eyes off the guy or fumbling the mechanics of the cylinder makes the dude more than a man.
Ye, it is so easy to over shoot your cylinder sweet spot.
Movie gun. Just a guess, but I was the armorer I would bore the cylinder out a bit more to give a larger margin of error for inserting the pin, and I'd probably weld or braze stops on the left side for the cylinder to roll to. Movie magic. Still, one of the all-time badass scenes from any western and 100% of the reasons I bought an 1858.
Forreal dude no joke ! First time I got mine it took me 5-10 minutes to put the cylinder in. Now it takes me 25 seconds on a really good day. He practiced day in and day out to get that right for this movie. What a badass
@@lipantaza9758yep then you gotta rattle it like a snakes tail and keep turning clockwise to get it out 😂 so annoying
Boy, that's no joke. Definitely a 'hold your mouth right' kind of operation. I can do it about as fast as you'd reload a gated revolver now, but it took a good deal of practice & profanity.
When you don't have 20 minutes to reload a percussion revolver...
1 minute and 30 seconds**
It is a new army Remington cartridge convert this was actually done back then as well.
@@horatiohornblower4123 This can actually be done as fast as reloading a automatic pistol.
@@bronsonleach3573 yes but only by professionals it usually takes that long
@@horatiohornblower4123 When you practice alot you be surprised what you can do with your hands.
This is why out of all the cap and ball revolvers, The Remington 1858 would be my #1 choice
The cap and ball revolver I have the most experience with and is my choice because of that is (and Im not kidding) the lemat, 10 shots with 9 .44 round balls and a single 16 gauge shotgun barrel that can either have birdshot, buckshot or a 58 caliber minie ball stuck in it.
@@luger_Mann That is an interesting choice
He had cartridge converted cylinders you can see it on his belt.
@@luger_Mann Lemats have issues with the ram rod you have to pull the ram rod up every time you shoot and in the civil war soldiers hated them. It is ether, uberti,colt, Ruger, and Remington. Remington is the easiest to cartridge converts because you can take the cylinders out easily. Even before you could get cartridge converts soldiers would have multiple loaded cylinders and was a favorite among officers but was more expensive.
@@bronsonleach3573 Cool
I’d be shitting myself if I saw Clint walking towards me like that
Clint must have practiced a lot to do it that smoothly
Why didn’t Stockman shoot him when he was reloading?
It's not hard to do.
@@RaoulThomas007 They were built different those days, plus that seems like a pussy move to think of it. JK, that’s a movie for ya any sane person would have popped him at that point 🤣.
@@RaoulThomas007 people knew what gunfighters honor was. There were rules back then, never shoot a man in the back. never shoot a man reloading if he hasn’t already fired. If it was mid fight and he reloaded then you could shoot him
@@RaoulThomas007 because he didn't see who he was until he got up close. He's got old eyes
A sharp eye can see the cylinder is empty. Take notes Mr. Baldwin.
😂
I like the belt with the pouches for extra cylinders!
Yup that has become known as the Clint Eastwood rig , or the Preacher , I am currently in the process of building my own right now.
@@rktman1965
Coolness!
@@rktman1965what pouches are you using? I can’t find any enclosed leather pouches that fit the cylinder well. They’re either too small/tight or they’re too large.
@@timothy____1989 I'm not actually using an existing pouch , there is a leather worker here in coastal north Carolina who does bespoke work on leather gun belts who is building the preacher rig. I have some leather working tools but don't yet have the skills to do this , definitely not to the level of the guy I know.
@@rktman1965 my search continues. If your NC source is ok with it, could you post their how-to-contact info, website, etc, please? Also thanks for the name of the rig!
Clint makes it look easy ! I'm finally getting the hang of it, but still sometimes it takes a few minutes to change cylinders ! ( The 1858 is a lot easier to swap, than the Colts were...with the Colt you had to take the gun apart to swap cylinders !)
Ok, I tried to do the cylinder swap like that. It took me about 5, FIVE! minutes to do it,, while standing still,, and looking right at it,, and concentrating. So, I don't know if 1. it was a prop gun and he didn't really do it, or 2. Clint practiced for hours and had the gun spruced up to be easier, or 3. if Clint's just that cool. I suspect it's a combo of 2 and 3.
When you get these guns slicked up and practice a lot, it gets easier. I'm not saying that like I'm cool for it or something. Just some nerd playing with their adult fidget spinners while watching UA-cam videos
There are videos on this site of people doing it in 6 seconds.
The 1858 has a very specific motion you have to use to get that cylinder into place that seems really hard at first but when you know how to work it it's easier than you think.
my friend check this out ua-cam.com/video/yC1Zc4zAOwc/v-deo.html
.... it takes me 4 to reload the cylinder by hand.
My time is 7 seconds religiously just got one two days ago. I can reload quicker than a single action but cylinders are expensive
Like, how much?
@@emiliovillarreal2486 reloading is just putting in another cylinder it takes me 47 seconds to reload a single action colt
@@emiliovillarreal2486 Cylinders you mean? Depends on the gun, for Pietta around $70-100 each. Worth having a couple spares though if you own a 1858 imo.
I can realistically my S&W revolver way faster with my speed loaders than I can reload my semi auto. But my revolver has 5 and my semi auto has 17 so it balances out
You mean Single Action Army?
If I ever time travel to the old west, I’m using one of these.
i love how he wipes his hat off with his gun
Can the same thing be done with a 1851 Colt Navy percussion cap revolver?? I’m asking for writing purposes
Youd have to remove the wedge which is tough I've heard, then youd have to remove the barrel which is easier and then you could swap cylinders, definitely wouldn't be as easy as this but you can see 1851's reloading like that in "the sisters brothers" good movie
Short answer no
lmao, I ended up here for similar reasons. I have a character that walk around with a bunch of cylinders...Turn out its not how revolver works
fuck me
Simple answer - yes. Though only the remington allows you to do it without disasembling the gun, you can do it just as easily with the Colts. Properly fitted, the wedge comes out with a bit of pressure from your thumb, and then you take off the barrel (and put it in your pocket, or hold it with the same hand that's holding the revolver), replace the cylinder, and replace the barrel.
@@yksnimus don’t listen to these guys. It can be done just as fast. My 1869 army is smooth as heck😊
I got one of these revolver conversions
Its not a conversion. Its the changing of pre-loaded cylinders. A belt is worn w however many small cylinder pouches. Pre-load at home.. and one cylinder per pouch, safe & secure. 5 pouches.. quick-loading.
Missy Victoria I believe op was stating that they have a Remington 1858 that has a conversion cylinder which allows for the use of metallic cartridges. Clint Eastwood is also using a Remington with a conversion cylinder in this scene.
I love mine
Clint's here is an old-school gunsmith only Civil War type conversion, under the Rollin White patent. Modern conversions either have a loading gate, or extended "caps" that fire separate hammers. Clint's is infinitely cooler, and a lot more expensive, unless you have the right skills or know a good gunsmith
@@Platano_macho What kind do you have? An Uberti or a Pietta? Most of mine are Pietta's since they tend to be cheaper and used to be easier to get. I had a hard time finding an Stainless Pietta with a 5.5 inch barrel so that's the only Uberti I have. It took over 6 months for it to be delivered. However, I made my purchase around the time Django Unchained was released so the New Model Armies were all the rage for awhile.
Interesting reload. This is always one of those things, to my knowledge that didn’t occur much back then. Prolonged fights weren’t common, finding replacement cylinders would be very difficult since they were mostly sizes individually from the factory (and were not intended to be replaced), and powder fouling would be a major issue. Fun in the big screen tho.
More common than you think. First let's look at manufacturing. You are gonna tell me that people were so bad at metal working that they couldn't be precise and consistent. No, these people made extremely accurate watch makers with interchangeable parts for same models. That is why repairing them was cheap.
Few sources talked or wrote about. Well official sources didn't. Unofficial sources did. I go by an axum. "if the officers said it didn't happen, but the grunts say it did. Then it most definitely did happen." Basically newspapers and reports say it didn't happen, but regular people did. So it did happen.
Powder fouling is not a big issue if you use gun grease (beeswax and natural oil) and putting in a fresh cylinder mitigates fouling.
@@timesthree5757 i have to disagree on the grunts thing as well though. Grunts also said Garand ping was an issue and m1 carbines couldn’t cut through winter jackets. I want actual sources of this occurring. Powder fouling also isn’t just in the cylinder, black powder gets in every bit of the gun. Are there any historical examples of this occurring outside of Hollywood?
@@Pershath08 yes 1899 Hot springs AR gunfight between city police and sheriff department. One of the deputies had an unconverted 1858 new Army and 3 cylinders (from different new Army) that was inherited. Whiteness saw him cylinder swap twice in the gun fight.
Hundreds of journals from the time period. One journal that I thought was good. Was in 1867 in the North west. Washington I believe. Anyway the mountain man was charged by a bar (that is how the guy spelled it) he emptied the cylinder and loaded a fresh one and shot it empty till the bear ran off.
Gotta’ give Stockburn credit for waiting and not gunning him down while reloading. Most gangbangers would nowadays.
Most would’ve shot him in the back then. A lot of gunfights irl weren’t “fair” like this. They were even dirtier than today
He had a spare revolver in his belt. If stockburn went for his gun he’d have just grabbed that one instead
Out of effective range of his Colt 1860 Army.
Anyone would have back then
Love the way he walks.
The cylinder swap on a Remington 1858 new army was also in Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Buried Zombie Map!
A masterwork.
You have to move it out ,rolling it clockwise. I was never that fast but with practice I could do in about 10 seconds.
notice the wounds on Stockburn's back match the Preacher's?
Love you ce film beautiful
Blackpowders version of Jerry miculek
You know what why didnt cowboys just carry secondary revolver cylinders if reloadong them was quicker than loading a individual bullet
That type of revolver was bp not cartridge
@@camoman132 my bad
Because most revolvers weren't easy to do like that
@@dolsopolar that sounds avout right i was just curious
The revolvers used at the time were not designed around swapping cylinders. These revolvers were not reloaded historically because it was a finicky and often very slow way to reload. It would be interesting to see a revolver that is actually designed around this type of speed reloading
Damn. I would love to have those guns!!!
Try watching john wick doing a quad load on a shotgun! (John wick 3). 4 shells loaded in about 2 seconds.
Yeah, cool, but this time period was way cooler.(old west)
อุส่าดู 😅😅
For some reason I can't upload the entire final shootout from this movie. UA-cam keeps blocking it. If anyone wants to check it out (I think it is one of the coolest in the history of cinema),: drive.google.com/file/d/1w_gpZfyS6VBk_UprYDNtf0JJfT53MBGt/view?usp=sharing
Great movie scene...but please don't carry CAPPED cylinders around. They are little hand grenades if dropped...and land just the wrong way...
Charles Bronson vs Clint Eastwood. So...who win this scenario (?).
- I't looks like i shy one cylinder? - No, you brought 2 too many...
Well only one of them is still alive
Chuck Norris
@@timothy____1989 My Freshman year math teacher solos
A bad guy would have shot Eastwood's character when he had the cylinder out. Wasted opportunity, that.
Any normal person would have.
I thought it was a Whitney revolver lol
If Bruce Lee was a gun fighter.....