Megamind: Power and Identity
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- I'm incredibly grateful that this video got so many views but also looking back at this video I just get frustrated that it's so poorly made lol. But maybe that's just the curse of improving.
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Also, I'm so frustrated because after 1.5 years I've finally found the clip I wanted to use at 22:04 in this video. I couldn't find the clip when I was making the video so I used another clip as a placeholder but basically, the clip I actually meant to use was this:
• Out of the Abyss
0:00 Intro
0:56 Summary
2:36 The Show
5:23 Characters
- 5:27 Megamind
- 14:36 Hal
- 18:21 Metroman
30:55 Power and Responsibility
40:25 Dissatisfaction with Identity
46:18 Outro
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Songs used:
0:57 George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad To The Bone (Instrumental)
2:36 Connor Spiotto - The Villain I Appear To Be
3:48 Hank Jones - Arigato
5:23 Hans Zimmer - Giant Blue Head [Megamind OST]
6:32 Hans Zimmer - If Only Metro Man Was Alive, Pt. 1 / A Plan [Megamind OST]
7:33 Disney Vevo - A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes (Piano Instrumental)
9:11 Hans Zimmer - Roxanne's Theme [Megamind OST]
11:10 Bill Evans - My Foolish Heart
14:36 Hans Zimmer - Tightenville (Hal's Theme) [Megamind OST]
15:27 ameba - 1k
16:30 Toby Fox - Ghost Fight [Undertale OST]
17:25 Hans Zimmer - Tightenville (Hal's Theme) [Megamind OST]
18:23 Hans Zimmer - Metro Man Ceremony [Megamind OST]
18:52 Toby Fox - Fallen Down [Undertale OST]
20:22 Kanye West - Power (Instrumental)
21:14 Hideki Taniuchi - Boredom [Death Note OST]
22:27 Mariya Takeuchi - Plastic Love
25:44 Hans Zimmer - Metro Man's Flashback [Megamind OST]
27:21 Bo Burnham - Are You Happy? (Instrumental)
29:22 atlas - Internet Persona's
30:55 Hans Zimmer - Metro Man Remembered [Megamind OST]
32:27 Hans Zimmer - Being Good Has It's Perks / Defender of Metro City [Megamind OST]
33:50 Hans Zimmer - Metro Man Remembered [Megamind OST]
35:09 Toby Fox - Home [Undertale OST]
36:21 Hans Zimmer - Metro Man Day [Megamind OST]
38:03 Kensuke Ushio - LIT [A Silent Voice OST]
40:25 potsu - Green In Blue
41:52 Toby Fox - Fallen Down (Reprise) [Undertale OST]
44:32 Anna Meredith - Be Yourself [Eight Grade OST]
45:31 Catherine Feeny - Mr Blue
Don't act like I didn't see what you did by putting Kanye West's Power during Mob 100 segment.
"No one man should have all that power"
Came here just to double-check that you did in fact use Bo Burnham - Are You Happy at 27:21. Amazing song selection!
Awesome of you to put this up, not everyone takes the time even when they should.
The use of Plastic Love when discussing parasocial relationships is brilliant
Might be strange of me to say but I love everyone; and I do quite enjoy any conversation that can entertain even if only for a few moments
Edit: ps; when I say I love everyone I mean that in the sense that we are all connected in some way and we can technically be considered a global complicated family
Metroman was selfish for doing what he did, but if I learned anything through therapy that it's okay to be selfish sometimes. You shouldn't always carry the weight of others and cause yourself harm. Doing sacrifice for someone is admirable, but it should not be expected of you.
That's a great point! What you just said reminds me a lot of Cuddlywhiskers, that character from Bojack Horseman, he was also saying that sometimes you need to take responsibility for your own happiness and that only if you give up everything you can begin to be happy, even when told that he let everyone down by leaving and stuff. Nice insight!
huh
Metro man is completely in the right, purely for the fact he doesn’t seem like he wants to misuse his power. He just wants to do his own thing and be a true neutral. I can respect that
Exactly :)
@Beezie selfish is a bit of a harsh description, there are a few subtle reasons to point out in the movie.
1. When Mega and Metro reunite, he refers to him as "little buddy," I do not believe this came from nowhere. If Metroman believed their rivalry was a "charade," as it were, I believe deep down that despite all of child mega's inventions misfiring, they came from a place of wanting to be accepted, and admired like metro as a kid. In a way, Metro at the beginning of the movie inspired Mega to be better, even though other kids put him down.
2. Because of all the examples in my first points, I think we can conclude, that if Metroman was applying the logic that he himself was under societal pressure, he was basically applying the same logic to megamind. This all supports the points in the video, that Metroman knew deep down that Megamind was not in fact, evil, and knew the balance would be restored once he got bored, and realized what a hollow victory it was. No challenge, to his reign, no challenge to his intellect, he'd have to find new ones...or make them himself and learn how to be humble in the process.
As far as metroman knew, the city was never in any real danger with megamind. So quitting wasnt that bad. But when titan came along it got more complicated
I think there was a remark or two mentioning that Metroman actually did have other villains that he fought and some that Megamind worked with in the past (unsure if it was in the short movie or in the original movie or talking out my ass on that)
It's just that Megamind was the most frequent villain to come back. Though now that there is Titan, there might be other villains that could fight Megamind...but that would be hopeful for a sequel which unsure if that will ever happen at this point
@@62swordsmen I watched it yesterday, I’m pretty sure they never even elude to that tbh
@@62swordsmen They originally planned for there to be more villains in the movie, but they don't come into play. However, they're in the video games, where Megamind fights them. They aren't very fleshed out at this point, though.
I think it's good the movie deleted a lot of characters and zoomed in on the major ones. It gave them all good, solid arcs. But it definitely leaves the impression of Megamind and Metro Man being the only super villain / super hero there, and they'll need to explain who the other villains are.
On one hand, it's great for the first movie that they made that decision. On the other hand, it's going to be a hard act to follow, because how will the next villains of Megamind be able to live up to Megamind? Will they make them as convincing with emotional beats that hit as hard? That's a tough one, but let's hope.
It looks like they're getting 16 episodes (Megamind Rules seems to be the title now) AND a second movie (Megamind VS The Doom Syndicate), so we'll see.
That trope of characters being devastated over not being able to beat their rival hits so hard because its so much more relatable than being the hero.
It applies to goals that end up never being achievable as well as many other things as well.
No.
I think "Megamind: The button of Doom" is worth discussing here.
After becoming a hero, Megamind's first instinct is to throw away everything about his past identity and basically become Metroman 2. It's not until that fails that Megamind realizes that he can be a hero without having to occupy the role Metroman abandoned, he can be himself.
He becomes Megaman. Wait, that name was already used... oh, and with another blue guy.
God, I didn't know this exists until you mentioned it...
@@creepstone8621 I mean if you consider his Japanese name rockman to be canon
Technically he already did that in the first movie.
He acts heroically, but in his traditional style; using deceptive tactics, over-the-top theatrics, and gadgets/intelligence to defeat tighten.
Button of doom was just kind of him figuring out that he’s best when he just tries to be himself, which is what metroman was trying to tell him all along.
My problem with Button of Doom(well, for one Roxanne wasn't in it) was that the threat was once again created by Megamind. It's justified in the first movie, but in the mini-sequel it could start to lead to the conclusion that Megamind is still more of a threat to the city than a savior. It's pulled off decently well in the short because the robot is only after him, but I hope if they do do future films with him they come up with a legitimate threat that isn't caused by him.
As a wise man once said “With great ability comes great accountability”
Wow that has greater ring to it the more I say it. And yes, definitely.
That fits this video so we’ll. I wonder how many people are gonna understand this though.
Man, I knew a Guy that said that.
@@thespectacularspider-man2549,
Yeah... I believe it was: *_"With great power comes great big booty b***es."_*
Nah I'm jesting you, I know what he said... He was a great man. I will also take this *by heart...* Take care pal.
With a great suit comes a great superhero accountant- possibly The Tick to Arthur
Metroman was right in wanting to quit.
Metroman's method of tendering his resignation was wrong.
Metroman has talent in music, just lacks a lot of training that he could've had if he hadn't been superheroing.
...you deserve more subs.
"metroman has talent in music"
*I HAVE EYES, THAAAAT CAN SEEEE, RIGHT THROUGH LLLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAA-AAAADDDDD*
...idk about that, chief.
@@hobomike6935 Bro, of course his vocal work and lyrics are sub-par, he's only had time to somewhat practice his instrument. Listen to the instrumental backing his lyrics, it's not that bad.
I think that's why he took up music in particular. He can't rely on his powers to be good at it, so the effort put in to do so feels that much more rewarding.
@@nick_a91 that was my thought process too
It was his right to quit, but that doesn't mean he was right to quit. He wasn't wrong either. He's caring for himself, it's really an internal effect. Had he never existed, any actions he had taken never would have occurred. He also had no obligations towards future events that were unrelated to him. It's neutral.
Metro man became music man because it's the only job his super Powers doesn't help him with it
He can finally grow of his own talent and do something he isn't good at and grow of his own exercise
And that way, he could keep his logo.
There is actually a very clever example of how Metroman's actions had negative consequences, It is the moment that actually hints the twist of Metroman bailing out. When Megamind uses that copper sphere to try to defeat Titan, it failed because Megamind was using false information that was given by Metroman.
Titan never would have existed if Megamind put the hero powers in someone worthy in the first place. It's not Metroman's fault.
If everyday you ran through a corridor, and one day you ran into a chair that someone put there, is it your fault, or that someone, that you get hurt?
For first - it's yours for not paying attention and not being careful. You are responsible for You.
For second - if they put that chair there specifically for you to run into it - they are also at fault. But if they didn't know, that putting it there would put someone in danger, they are not at fault. How could they know? Did they know you? Did you tell them that you are ruining that way? Did they supposed to check the place before putting the chair there, so no one would hurt themselves?
How much responsibility for your actions are you willing to put on others?
Metroman knew that Megamind wasn't an actual threat. He knew that this super villain would at best scare some people and vandalized some property, and would get bored pretty quickly, because was never interested in violence and harming others. Metroman knew that Megamind liked to create elaborate plans of conquering the city, making a lot of inventions, putting on a show, and would eventually go back to do just that, but for good this time, because spot for a hero was open.
He almost openly says that to Megamind, but he didn't realize, that Blue was being completely absorb by the idea, that he is a Bad Guy and don't deserve to change that. And that is when and where the problem occured.
To those saying that Joshua is saying that Titan is Metroman's fault: Someone's actions can have negative consequences even if they aren't at fault. He never said Metroman is at fault.
@@CatCheshire that's retarded. It's like saying "it's your fault your car was stuck in a hole that others made in the middle the road, bcuz ' you're not paying attention' ". A hindsight isn't something you can intentionally do, so you can't be blamed for it, but you choosing to do something that you aware can bring others harm is.
So in this case, it's not Megamind's fault. Period
I think Metroman had all the entitlement to drop his life as superhero, the dependency of Metrocity citizens to Metroman made them "weak" as you said, and something that I think is rather interesting it's that, at the end, the citizens just put the role of hero to Megamind, they don't care who stands in the podium, they just want to have someone "supirior" than them to protect them, they don't care who Megamind was in the past, the thing is that they completly forget about Metroman and they just move into their lives with a hero again.
Either that or I'm just spilling bullshit, anyways, great review!
Damn thanks for watching the vid that far, really appreciate it!
Hm yeah that's an interesting thought, it's like that quote from house of cards "you don't want me to stand for anything, you just want me to stand", maybe the people just need some hero to look up to regardless of who it is, hot take 👌
That would actually make sense lol
People just love to be protected, ruled, and parented. It's more care-free, less responsibility placed onto themselves, no-one but that one person needs to be the one carrying everyone on their shoulders.
This movie is on the surface just "Nobody is born evil and everybody can be good" but underneath it its social critisism of the finest degree
Probably one of the reasons it appeals to both kids and adults. Kids get the initial message you put forth and teens and older audiences understand the deeper message of defying social expectations to be who you are and who you want to be.
I love how they portrayed that Megamind never really wanted to be a villain. He wasn’t evil. Because you can see it in the way he talks to Hal. When he goes to confront Hal only to figure out Hal has been stealing things from the city, he says “I can’t believe you. All your gifts, all your powers and you squander them for your own personal gain?!” And he says the line like he’s really offended at the selfishness of Hal, even though as the villain that’s what villains do. But it’s not what Megamind does.
16:27 The main difference between megamind and hal there, Is sure while megamind might go back to being a villain, he doesn't try to terrorize Roxanne herself for it, he doesn't try to force it, he accepts it and largely moves on.
Even after being told no repeatedly, Hal just couldn't accept it, couldn't take no for an answer.
megamind is at bargaining while hal is at denial and anger
To be fair, Hal in the beginning was just robbing banks after he got rejected. He wasn't trying to hurt Roxanne. The trigger that makes him angry toward Roxanne was Megamind revealing he was Bernard, the guy Roxanne was going out with. Roxanne would go out with the supervillain that kills Metroman, instead of him. And to make it worse, the same villain reveal that he had been fooling Hal all along by pretending to be his space dad. So Roxanne would rather go out with this supervillain that is manipulating Hal, and that supervillain was doing it because he was boring. Hal realized he was nobody, just some fool being caught up in Megamind's game.
@@natsudragneel-ir7sr *HOLY FUCK*
...Yeah I can see why he snapped that's enough to break through the bottom of anyone's self esteem well
@@natsudragneel-ir7sr I thin you missed the first time hal presented himself as "Tighten/Titan" to Roxanne. Firstly he pops up on her balcony, scaring the shit out of her, then starts going into this diatribe about how he brought her a whole cart of flowers because he doesn't know her favorite (wait, how tf wouldn't he *know*? I thought you liked her?!) then takes her on a UNwanted flying joyride, flinging her around like a ragdoll, scaring the SHIT out of her even though she had a date with "Bernard".
It was a good scene to show that Hal had no real interest in Roxanne as a person, just as a prize. I think anything would have set him off, because he is the worst type of person to have superpowers: irresponsible, entitled, inconsiderate, and has hair trigger anger issues.
@@Callimo all those thing he did before he snap and went crazy was not out of malicious intent, just him being ignorant of how to socialize or approach a girl. Him being a short ugly ginger just days before might have contribute to his lack of social experience and doing dumb shit to impress girl at that time, but he was not doing it out of malice. He was in the stage of grief and Megamind just drop a nuke on his mental by revealing all those things I said in the previous comment to him while mocking him is what really push him to the bad side, he was dealing with sadness and Megamind light his whole life on fire at that moment, of course he would snap. Who wouldn't?
I never realized this, but you know how Megamind got depressed and hopeless after “defeating” Metroman because winning had no satisfaction when it was too easy? Metroman probably felt that way every single day.
Some people think Metroman was an asshole for leaving everyone behind, but honestly, as an artist, I can understand completely. Sometimes you get burnt out when others have high expectations of you and from doing the same thing over and over again.
Sure, Metroman had superpowers, but does that mean the city is entitled to his service? Why exactly does he HAVE to protect everyone? Sure, with great power comes great responsibility, but I always felt that meant PERSONAL responsibility, like that a person with power should never use it to cause harm. Metroman volunteered most of his time to saving people, and he should be able to step away. If anything, it’s bad that the city is so dependent on having a hero. Would you get angry with a firefighter for quitting one day, or would you simply get someone to replace them?
Actually 'with great power comes great responsibility' means to be able to help and do good whenever you can. This is what complicates things for Metroman because he has the ability to do so much good hence choosing to leave it all creates a moral dilemma.
The problem throught his that he he wanted change but just ditched his responsibility. A firefighter trains his replacement. The are things set in place for when that firefighter has had enough. Metromam just fake his death. He may have said megamind can change but he didn't try and help him..he didn't go to the city as say " hey guys this is getting a little.mich so can we get ready for me to retire..police pick up the slack". Instead he just dumped.it on megamind and when an actual real threat was there he tells.megq mind to take care of it. Metromam was playing the hero as a show off and got tired of it. Had a mid life crisis and just ran.
@@Orsonfoe
This is a good point. Yeah, I think the way he left wasn’t the best: he could have publicly retired from fighting and given Megamind some time to prepare for it, or perhaps had a talk with him, instead of just leaving everyone in the dark. That way, the whole Hal/Tighten situation probably wouldn’t have happened. Still, I don’t think he’s really wrong to want to quit. Sure, he has immense power, but he also has personal autonomy. If you’ve got superpowers, does that mean you HAVE to be a superhero?
I think the reason I don’t see it as bad is because, in a lot of ways, Metroman is a performer, like Megamind; he’s not the super altruistic pinnacle of justice everyone sees him as, he’s a guy putting up a facade because it’s what is expected of him. And given how Megamind steps up to heroism, I think he understood that Megamind is not really an ACTUAL villain. Perhaps he thought it wouldn’t be that big of a deal if he just let Megamind win for once? The only actual conflict near the end of the film is when Hal/Tighten starts causing trouble, which is something no one really could have saw coming in the months when Metroman “died.”
Plus, it seems that Megamind is really the ONLY threat that Metroman seems to be somewhat responsible for; everything else is a public safety issue that really should be handled by the city. It’s like how the cops all tossed up their guns when Megamind shows up, probably because they’re so used to Metroman doing it for them.
@@whodatboi2567
That makes sense, and I do agree that people should use their power for good. I think a part of the story of Megamind also involves challenging a lot of tropes associated with superheroes, including this one, which is why I find it so fascinating.
Like, it seems that Megamind is really the ONLY threat that Metroman is somewhat personally obligated to deal with, and even then, Megamind isn’t ACTUALLY evil. Both of them are really just putting on a performance.
So is Metroman’s idea of retirement necessarily bad in and of itself? Why does HE especially have to deal with Megamind rather than the city that cultivated Megamind in the first place? After all, Megamind isn’t just any villain; he’s a direct result of the city’s own prejudices, which, at least to me, means that the city’s officials also have some responsibility in stopping him in Metroman’s absence. Megamind himself actually starts to reform slowly as he moves on with his life, and the only major threat after that is Hal, who was given powers by accident in a way neither Megamind or Metroman could have predicted. It’s possible that Metroman knew that things would probably not be so bad if he wasn’t around.
So, I guess I’m just wondering, while great power comes great responsibility, does that just apply to superheroes? Or to the incompetent officials and leaders who are clueless about how to wield their power? What if Metroman was sick one day, is he allowed a day off while Megamind takes over the city? Metroman has great power, but is Megamind his responsibility?
@@gregjayonnaise8314 agreed he should be aloud to quick I don't view him alin the wrong for wanting that. I view him in wrong for how he handles it.
I too view him as a promformer but he not one in a traditional sense like a paid actor. He took on a roll that got him praise. We saw in the flash back " and a few teaser trailers" that metromam loved to show off. Megamind wanted attention and recognition but only got it when he was acting bad. More so when he went against metromam. And that was there lifes for years. While metromam had his moment of " do I really want to be doing this for the rest of my life?' moment megamind was still in his role and a role he full heatedly beloved in. He had no reason or way to think other wise. So him just up and disappearing like that isn't going to help. And while megamind didn't kill any one him to doing his thing would have cause aloit of famers and touble for everything thing else for everyone else.
As for no one predicting hal I think the only one who could have thought of that would be Roxy. And that less of prediction and more of a knowing hypothetical.
And the fact it does seem that megamind is his only real villain makes his roleplaying even worse. All those years of genuine of megamind that could help countless more people than metromam ever could. While the cops may have been use to him dealing with megamind we also got to remember that they just saw their hero die. The bad guy who they know they couldn't handle is marching ntorwards them. Can't blame them. But can blame the prison system or more specificlu that warden.
As a wise child in Pokémon once said, “Change your perspective, and the reality changes”. Love how deep both this video and this movie goes!
A well thought out and presented exploration of the characters and motivations.
Just on a side note, Roxanne can be seen shifting her understanding of Metroman and Megamind by the way she dresses. Red at the start as a Metroman fan. Purple in the middle of the movie as she gets confused by her feelings. And Blue at the end as she understands Megamind and who he wants to be.
Holy shit, i did not notice that
Wow, i'm impressed. How could you notice that detail? I would love to have that skill.
I thought everyone or at least most people knew that by now, lol. I've heard it many times. 😆
Small details make great impact, good damn
@@C.L.G._Artisa I haven't lol
this movie is genius, instead of making metroman the usual egotistical villain, they made him a character, similar to megamind, both believe they are the roles they have to play, but metro man realized he can be a man of his own, choose his own dreams and life.
I really love how Metroman is such a strong allegory for a lot of content creators/influencers' mental health, and I do hope that some people really do or have taken the lesson seriously to heart.
It's fine to be yourself and be able to appear to your audience as imperfect and as a regular person. People should always take care to handle their mental state before trying to please an audience or things might not end well for anyone.
One thing i like is that metro man,probably during their first fights even,realizes that megamind was never a "villain" and moreso a guy just trying to find his purpose and having fun with it.
He knew mega would never really hurt anyone,and even believed he would change into a hero without the forced villain act he puts on.
4:18 I like how you can see metroman disappear for a brief moment because he did the super speed scene
Well as others said: Metroman chose to be selfish for once and his way of quitting was wrong. But honestly can one really blame him? Both their roles were thrust upon them and they were taken for granted. Sure he should have told the people...but then again we see the reaction that he is getting from Roxanne who actually was more than just an adoring fan, so how would literally everyone around him have blamed him for choosing himself for once. And what could he have possibly said to "Why did you let this happen by choosing yourself?" Metroman is in a horrible position, he was priviliged sure, he enjoyed it as much as the next person would´ve. But he was constantly just push to fulfill expectations of others. And for him failing expectations would have also meant serious harm to others. So even the option of "running away" from that responsibility is probably too little to grant him peace of mind. More than Megamind he doesn´t get to choose when to stop. Horrible things would always keep on happening, with or without supervillains. So who to choose to save or to get hurt?
Honestly the most reasonable thing for him would have been to lie, that he can´t deal with earth problems anymore because he has to...defend earth...from aliens...somewhere. And then just vanish and do his music unbeknownst to others. I honestly see no way for actual honesty for him here. He is pushed into a life of solitude simply by the way he was born, more alien to this planet than Megamind ever was.
Yeah, this is the real curse of super powers, it's gilded shackles. Hunted by governments planet wide as an experiment? Nah. It's the moral obligations. You can't punch or lock up the spectre of "I could've saved them". It's the defining trait that separates a real hero from a pretender, abandon it and you either start down that slippery slope into becoming a super powered dictator, or spend the rest of your life hounded by those self-centered enough to demand otherwise, the only alternative requires many, many more super powered people around to thin the blame out.
I dunno, I don't think he had to quit that hard. It was understandable to put on a fake death for everyone else, but to not tell the two people closest to him (Roxanne and MegaMind)? I dunno, he left them kind of vulnerable and wouldn't you know it, that villain vacuum was filled by Hal.
'plastic love' is such a fitting choice for that metroman segment
his plastic love....
My parents made me cry earlier and I told one of my friends about it. He sent me this video. This whole movie is his obsession right now. And now I can understand what he’s talking about when talking about this movie. Thanks so much for summing it up for me
Well that's definitely nice of him, hope your doing well now
You good
Ok lol
U ok?
hope you’re feeling better !
27:24 I have a somewhat opposite problem, I'm surrounded by people with worse lives then me, wither it be abusive parents, depression, anxiety, addictions etc. Then there's me, I'm just over here being perfectly normal not having anything really that bad happening in my childhood, I feel like I'll never be able to "fully" get them even when I try. I think I came to this realization when my girlfriend told me that she had DID from childhood trauma and would starve herself constantly, To this day I still have no proper way to respond to that that doesn't feel half-baked, even though that was 2 mouths ago all I was able to say was because I've never lived though any of those things and I'm just here always either Happy or bored because I have little to be sad about. I never had a "bad" childhood and I never will so having a full understanding of what the people around me are going through will just be beyond my reach.
Dude, I have the same problem. Take my like bud, and don't be too hard on yourself. If you have a hard time relating, then letting your friend or girlfriend just know that you'll be there and listening can allow you two to grow closer. You don't have to take my word for it, of course, I am just a random stranger on the internet. But I do hope you have a great day today.
just be there for them, I mean they choose you as their friends and love one.
I'm in a similar boat, I've had a pretty "uneventful" (as in not dangerous or traumatizing) childhood. My parents are the best, they raised me to be a kind man who can think for himself. Haven't ever really struggled for money or anything, and the only disease I've had was Asthma, but I haven't needed an inhaler for more than 6 years and my Doctor officially labeled me non-asthmatic so no medical problems either. But I've found that while it does help to have someone who's gone through the same things you have, it's more important to just have someone there who will listen to you. Someone you can rant to about your problems, who doesn't necessarily have any advice to give, but will be there nonetheless. Cause when you're going through something hard, the worst thing to add on to it is being alone. So for your girlfriend, maybe just check in on her a couple times a day, and remind her to eat something once in a while. She'll probably ask what the point is, so tell her that she means a lot to you. Or remind her that it will get better one day. Be there for her.
@@tobbleevolved1276 I forgot I made this comment but a little after I made this she left the relationship because her life was getting worse and she didn't feel mentally stable enough to hold the relationship, she wound up deleting her account on the app we used to talk to eachother so I have no way to talk to her
Thanks for the advice anyway
@@Oxygen1004 Damn that sucks, hope you're both doing better
Aww man
No Roxanne analysis
Great video overall, looks like you put a lot of work into it!
I honestly would’ve wanted that, she’s well written as a Foil character for Metroman, Megamind, & Hal as she knew all of them and wasn’t crazy over any of them, which goes to show that there was a deeper level of communication since she likes to get all the details in a story, the problem is…is this sadly all their is to her character, we don’t get much more than that as the story focus is mostly on the Other three characters.
@@danielramsey6141 I saw something saying that the movie was just her with a bunch of himbos fighting over her which is kinda sad bc the movie is so much more then that, she just wasnt developed as well as megamind was (even though she was still somewhat developed, she pales in comparison to his character arc). At least she wasnt a damsel in distress.
@@hiitscupid3504 not really. Metroman never simped for her, he just saved the day because megamind always picked her as his "damsel in distress."
megamind and hal were the ones fighting over her all the time. Metroman really never was a "bad" person or wanted to hurt anyone. he just got tired of having to be whatever the city wanted him to be.
Personally I think Metroman stopping the constant fight with Megamind would be the responsible thing to do... As Megamind's narration points out, their battles were getting bigger and more elaborate, and presumably the collateral damage would become a lot more significant. as Cinema Wins points out, the city itself was also becoming more irresponsble and more dependant on Metroman. If Metroman know that Megamind was more interested in the charade of a fight rather than the goal of the fight, it was in the city's best interest to "let" Megamind win
I can't get over how insightful this video is (and the film of course). Bravo!
Notice the little flicker at 4:20? That’s metro-man’s super speed as he thinks about being a superhero!
if you ever visit germany I owe you a drink. Thank you for sharing this absolute Masterpiece.
Really really enjoyed it !
The Music choice made it almost feel nostalgic
I Wish you all the succsses on earth :)
13:54 to 14:32 actually reminds me of how I code. I like to code as a hobby, but when im starting a new project I generally dont look up how others say it should be done, I figure it out myself instead. I also tend to not use other peoples libraries (like matrix implementations for rendering) I just make my own. Kind of strange how a phillisophical analysis reflects my coding practices.
FYI that's fine if that's what you want, but if you actually plan on doing something in particular don't feel obligated to reimplement things. Some things really *are* complex, and can be a rabbit hole of their own. If you feel that's not what you want to focus on, there's no harm in getting help. No one person built the mind bogglingly complex software we take for granted.
I've actually just noticed in that shot at 32:00 with Metroman flying towards the Observatory, he's not taking the most efficient route - he's diving down between the buildings, likely deliberately trying to be seen at every window he can on the way to his fight.
This is hands down one of the best and most presently relevant analyses of Megamind I have ever come across. I appreciate you so much for this!
Always a fan of a Megamind analysis. This was really well done! I loved the focus on identity and choosing who you want to be.
I have no words. This is the most insightful megamind review that I’ve ever seen! Thank you SO much for this MASTERPIECE
(Also that megamind unmasked think wAS super clever if that was intentional)
When "the villain i appear to be" kicked in (the jazz piece a minute or two in) i had a moment of "damn this guy knows his music!"
this video essay is incredibly underrated. i really enjoyed all the different viewpoints you gave the characters in this film and some of the questions of identity, the obligation of power and idolizing others is incredibly interesting and profound. unrelated but i really enjoyed some of the songs you used here (and Mob Psycho is great)
4:18 If you look closely, You can actually see Metro Man blink out for a second and appear behind Megamind XD
This movie had more detail then it should reasonably need XD
One aspect I don't think you touch on, Metroman wasn't just having "superhero" placed upon him. Metroman's mother in the Christmas scene was being appeased by her husband. from the moment he got to earth he was a tool used to make another happy and comfortable. Metroman was free for the first time in his life when he became Musicman.
The idea of when you should expect someone to take action to save peoples lives is an interesting one. To put it in the perspective of the trolley problem: If you could press a button to divert a trolley from killing someone to not killing someone, you would be obligated to. However, if you needed to spend 40 or 80 hours a week pressing buttons to do so, people would generally expect you to be under some contractual terms and receive compensation with perhaps some unwritten standards of conduct, and an expectation that you negotiate your retirement rather than abandon post. That also brings into consideration whether someone else could take up that position or not, and if a state has a right to compel someone to fill that position. The more authoritarian the state, the more likely they are to say they ought to compel someone to fill that position. That tends to be an unstable way of getting the job done because no matter what method you use to compel action, an individual of free will can still refuse to do so, which is partly why tyrannies tend to collapse relatively fast in both human and animal social groups. So the best approach I can come up with is to try and provide the most favorable terms with that individual you can for them to be willing to continue, and figure out alternative solutions for problems (i.e. better track placement for the trolley, or as you mentioned in the movie's context, better designed airplanes that don't crash as often). Once you start expecting an individual to carry your society, then it becomes acceptable to blame your problems on them and do nothing to solve them yourself - a state I think far too many of us find ourselves in.
Before I watch, Hal's face in the thumbnail is my favorite quote from him.
Yes, Metroman made the right decision, even if the aftermath is jarring at first, both he and Megamind were far better off, and honestly the sooner the populace in Metro City learns to be self sufficient again, the better. Other than the abrupt status quo change, Metroman made a good decision. Megamind, while not a villain anymore, would still thrive with positive attention. Plus, if there was any threat that would come later, Megamind would likely revel in being a hero, and might be even more content that way.
One thing I like, is that during the opening fight, you can see one frame where metroman blips behind megamind.
This is so fucking good, I'm eternally grateful for this masterpiece.
I think it was the mentally tyring game of pulling eachother's strings until someone gives up, Megamind came with one purpose that was put by the city itself, metro was put in the hero role by himself but further pushed by Mega itself and the city, the city being clueless about it, the moment one decided to give up everything was gonna crumble, we've only seen what happened if metro gave up, but what if Mega did? would the city turn back to normal, eventually ignoring Metro and him becoming virtually useless and probably becoming a normal person? and what if the city just realized about this and left the two (three with roxie over there) rendering both as just pretenders, it was only a matter of time.
I think the venture bros mirrors alot of the stuff touched upon in Megamind
This is * chef's kiss *
Metroman is the equivalent of that one rap verse about rice gum, "you took your personality and replaced it with a rolex." The Rolex being his hero persona for how he actually feels.
Metroman just wants to be a guy who wants to live a normal life
Megamind wants to be a hero
Hal wants to be a villain
They all have 1 thing in common: they want to have a choice
Gosh this video essay was so phenomenal and well put together. It was such an interesting watch!!
Fantastic job, keep up the great work ^^👍
(And absolutely PERFECT job on the soundtrack choices 🤌)
Hi blue like your video man waiting for a new atla reaction
Hey blue order, how's ur day?
BLUE ORDER??? ON A MEGAMIND VIDEO NO WAY
I clicked on a random-ass video by some guy I've never even heard of, discussing a movie I liked.
The video was overly long (about an hour).
Watching this video was the right choice. Excellent analysis, you made me look at the movie (and possibly myself) in new ways. Thank you.
And yes, this absolutely needed to be a 45 minute video; it was just that damn good.
Can I just say how Metroman's costume is OBVIOUSLY inspired by Elvis?
Megamind's image of a hero is white and gold and uses a white and gold costume when deciding to fight crime. He's just copying his perception of what a hero is. Metroman was just copying HIS perception of what a hero is when he wore that. Elvis Presley. He even starts singing and playing guitar at the end of the movie like Elvis. This lines up with Elvis having a secret internal struggle aswell. Don't be afraid to stand out. You might just accomplish something in your life. Not just for yourself but for other people aswell.
I think it's because this movie doesn't spoon feed a simple message is why a lot of people dismiss it. Because you have actually stop and think a bit to catch on to some of it, people just move on before doing that.
I would argue that since this movie predates this issue in social media, that this is proof of how this concept predates social media. Even if social media has intensified certain parts of this concept, especially for certain people.
Also people wonder why I don't have social media accounts and don't do the social media thing. You can't feel like you have to fake it for your fans if you don't have fans.
OK WAIT THO 46:38 WHAT??? MEGAMIND 2??? You can't just throw that in and expect me to be calm!!! I looked it up though and it looks like that was a fan idea in like 2013 or something. I wish they made a new Megamind movie and if they did, my hope would to be bring in Psycho Delic!!
Oh lol yeah it all seemed pretty vague to me too, but hey, we can hope right?
@@olafsomething Always hope! lol
24:00 Honestly, this example is pretty spot on (And I say that as someone who follows Dream. pleasedon'tsendmedeathtreats) And I'm glade someone made this comparison. Megamind doesn't say "I love you, random citzen!" with the intent of manipulating the audience, but with genuine gratitude over the attention they give him. The same can happen with any public figure that gets their income or makes a living out of their fame; they love the idea of their fans, they are grateful, and gratitude migth sometimes make them more humble. But when does that kind of fan - idol relationship becomes unhelthy?
When Roger Waters makes an album about it.
Yea it makes allot of sense lol
cj the x made an AMAZING video about this (his jeff bezos bo burnham video)
The thing is for both mega and metro mans they did not have a lifes outsides of there roles. And if fans make alternate universes, mega could have been a bilionnary genius who start a new era of technologies and metroman without the golden spoons of his parents be a freack show for his power, or be alone because he has to hold his power in becasue no body can't understand him as much mega can strugle in what they desire deep down.
Honestly I think Metro man faking his death is reasonable, the ratio of danger to effort is very lopsided to effort. He knew mega mind was no real evil villain that would destroy metro city. The big issue came when he refused to come back to help with titan, while megamind did win in the end, Titan probably killed hundreds if not more and did thousands of dollars worth of damage. He was a real threat, that really could have been unstoppable if certain things went different.
You know I've often felt that people gravitate towards the idea of a superhero out of a feeling of powerlessness. Not just the ones in comic books, this includes relying on real life identities and entities (like the government) to help solve our issues we don't know how to solve. It's very hard like the kid getting teased who runs to the teacher to fix the problem. Really, there is an inherent problem with this. It makes people focus on someone else to solve it rather than gaining competence to solve the problem yourself (lead a collective to solve it.) I used to work at a university and we would have student workers. There were amazing ones, who went on to be extremely successful. The worst one were the ones who's parents did everything for them. They were less than usless some of them learned how to work, some of their parents called when we had to let them go. Melamine was able to walk into city hall, because the people of the city had no idea how to fight him. The reliance on Metroman made metrocity useless rather than competent. The relationship was just a cancerous for for the people of Metrocity, as it was for Metroman. As a parent there is almost nothing my 3, 6, and 8 year old can do better or quicker than me, but I still have to make them do things. Because THEY need to be competent. Your assertion that it was metromans responsibility is wrong. It was society's responsibility and Metroman is only one part of that society. To put it all one one man was a huge social issue. It's why dictatorships and cults of personality often end badly. But what do I know, I'm in the hospital right now on a Buttload of drugs post (hernia surgery).
In megamind's case the evil can be stopped with a taser. So the people of metrocity are just kinda being lazy.
*Megamind may be the most underrated animated movie of all time.*
Look, I've never actually appreciated a sponsor plug before, but that was smooth, quick and made sense. I appreciate that and think it was pretty vlever
It was not at all metroman's responsibility to defend the people, but he definitely could have retired in a better, less harmful way. Heck, just even sitting down and having a conversation with Megamind would have helped immensely
The conversation not gonna work while Megamind's head is still in the clouds.
@@gilgameshlfx7006 good point but it would have shown him trying to help megamind instead of faking his death and telling him he can be better.onlu when metromam was caught.
@@gilgameshlfx7006 Also, it really might have worked had Metro Man actually tried. There’s no guarantee. And considering how obviously all of Megamind’s antagonism was completely cheery and playful at the point they were at, he was clearly very open and fond of MM by that point. Metro Man just didn’t even try. He really just… ran away instead. Not the worst thing you can do, but not great.
the morally right thing for metro man to do would have been to confront megamind about the whole thing. just like in a romantic relationship, the right thing to do is to be clear and honest about your feelings, the right thing for metroman to do would have been to negotiate their relationship rather than leave out of now where.
in a lot of ways, their relationship is kind opf like a romantic one. except that metroman got massive physical and social benefits from it, while megamind only got emotional satisfaction. regardless, do to its nature, how both rely on each other, it wouldn't be right for either to leave without talking about it
It's never someone else's responsability to save your live or to justify negligence (like the plane crash example)
RetroMan had no "responsibility" to be a hero to MetroCity. Much like how MegaMind was just forced into the role of villain and he accepted it, that's basically the same deal for MetroMan being a hero. MetroMan just came to the realization that society didn't dictate what he had to be a lot sooner than MegaMind did.
I think that there are many forms of love. There's intimitate love, something you can't have with an audience, appreciative love, like the love you could have for an audience, or love that's based on moral beliefs (like how christians are called to love everyone).
Love can be an intimate relationship, or it could also just mean that you care in a general sense. Like if you're sad because you found out one of your fans died, then that could be a sign that you have some form of "love" for those people.
Obviously the way it's presented by people these days is often not right, but the idea that someone can't love the people in their audience at all, I disagree with. It's just a different kind of love than love you'd have for someone you have a personal relationship with.
Mr. Blue at the end made me cry🥲 Thank you for an awesome video! I never noticed the parallels between this movie and Bojack Horseman. My first date ever was Megamind in theatres when I was 14 and this made me feel so inspired and nostalgic. Thanks again!
I can't say any more about how perfect this movie is.
But I DO wonder how Roxy wasn't hurt hugging Megamind around his spiked collar.
I love how they took the names of two greenlanterns for the final villain. (Hal Jordan, and John Stewart)
"Should we make that one superhero who can fight the most powerful evil our own evil fighting slave" you shoulda been the PR consultant for Lex Luthor cuz that's a much better argument than "No only I am allowed to save the world!" then we find out his idea of saving it is make everyone else HIS slaves!
I'm glad I listened to this and I took away some really good points towards the end.
Good analysis
Jacksepticeye has often talked about many things your talking about. How he, at one point, thought he himself as fake. He also pointed out how others started acting like him after they realized that acting like him 'worked'. Hes also mellowed out over the year and isn't as, just, forcibly happy nowadays. I don't watch him as much nowadays, but I can tell he's obviously changed.
About Metroman and his persona. I always saw that part. My hope was that at the end, Megamind would give him the watch so he could love a normal life from time to time.
Megamind reminds me of zim just a little bit. Although invader zim takes a more comedic route, they feel quite similar.
The people in this comment section seem to be great people. I don't see any toxicity. It's quite a strange place. This video is a great one, especially explaining how this movie had and will continue having an influence on modern society, explaining the emotions and expression of people (see celebrities, but others as well) . This is very well explained by this video. You honestly did a great job.
Autoplay is sometimes a mistake.
Like the Mort 7 hour analysis.
Not this one tho this is great.
I've always noticed how careless and incompetent the police behaved in the movie. Cops comically discharge their guns in the air to celebrate Metroman, but he's out and Megamind is free, they can't even fight. They're so complacent in regards to the "show" that they don't even try.
The only capable law enforcer was the prison warden because he was a part of the "Metrocity show." He contained MM until Minion could break him out. It's not that he lets him get away, but that Megamind is too powerful and resourceful for him.
I love all the meanings this man can find in a stupid little superhero moive
I want your snap to save everything idea made into a story where the big conflict is that the one person never learned how to snap and only has so long before it is too late.
I think this video started the snotty boy glow up meme
I think that's the biggest compliment I've received on this video so far
@@olafsomething thnx man
I wrote this comment before watched the whole vid
This vid left me thinking for several minutes
Man this is some deep stuff
This vid is seriously underrated
Cross referencing a film with real and psychological tendencies happening in reality
Not just that but showcasing a tragic backstory link to yourself
This is seriously a heart hitting video
It ticks all the boxes
Seriously underrated
You've got a like from me
Your initial compliment is still better
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This litterally explained why I love the megamind movie so much. I can never find the correct words but Olaf found not only the correct words,but so much more than that.
I didn't even notice how I watched a 47 minute video in one sitting.
Metroman instead could've maybe planned to meet up with Megamind to civilly discuss their problem & then announce the resignation to the citizens? 🤔
A masterpiece about a masterpiece.
It's funny that I love this movie so much that I didn't actually realize how long this video was until you mentioned it at the end.
It had been 10 years since Megamind's release when this video was uploaded?! WHERE'D THE TIME GO?! :O
About his suicide, look at what his eyes express instead of listening to what he says. What he says is curated to appear to an audience as business as usual. Unless someone is trained as an actor their ability to express anything other than their subconscious state is extremely limited. The emptiness of his eyes in the recording from a month before his death was a cry for help.
The superficialness of the performers that you explain was ironically one of the factors of no one reaching out to him as you all only listened to his voice instead of looking at him. This is quite normal as it took me special training in the observation of non-verbal clues to pay attention to this. However, it does make me angry when I hear people say, "no one could have known" when it was so blatantly obvious to see if someone had just looked at them and what they expressed instead of only listening to what they had to say. What people say is what they want other people to hear based on social expectations. When someone asks you, "how are you?" They want to hear "fine." There's a social expectation that the person asked answers with "fine," since if they ask with anything else the person asking will either flat-out rebuke them or be utterly helpless as they've no idea what to do.
Probably no one around him has anything to do with him committing suicide, however, you all bear a responsibility for ígnoring what he expressed instead of reaching out to him. And you all have to live with that responsibility for the rest of your lives. Like Peter Parker, this is the thief you let get away and whose later actions haunt you for the rest of your life.
Else, good analysis of Megamind.
Man, I would’ve loved seeing Megamind and Metroman playing Chess like Erik and Charles
This movie is one of my favorites of all times
Holy shit dude, you did an amazing job of relating this movie's themes to struggles real people will have gone through. I've been going through many of the exact struggles you mention, and I think your analysis helped me in that process. Thank you for this video.
This video, not just for the summarizing of characters but the music in the background. As I've heard EVERY song in this. All these songs were my childhood and Megamind was my childhood. This video came up as people seen me as this perfect nice trans women tryin to help, which I am trying to help people but it really does put a dent in your heart. It gave me depression and ect. This video was perfect in showing identity, goals, ect. Also HEAVILY underrated for you seriously.
megamind is such a masterpiece
“To be who you want to be isn’t advice. It’s a task.” Ohhhh I really like that quote. I’m gonna be holding onto that one.
I really like your dissection of this movie as a whole! Great job!!
This great and inspiring for me to make my own channel and this video rivals some the other bigger reviewers. This Is outstanding
Thanks man! I hope you'll have success with your videos! 😀
Finally someone uses the word incel correctly
I just realized this. During the scene of him being on the big screen in front of the crowd, you can actually see a frame of Metroman behind Megamind, and he's also gone from his screen. Very cool detail. 👍
It's hard to pin down, but you're right
GREAT MOVIE + GREAT VIDEO + GREAT SOUNDTRACK + BO BURNHAM REFERENCES = ITS AMAZING
This was great analysis! I wish you'd talked about Roxanne with the same level of depth. She was too far in on The Show to be able to count as nothing more than a representative of the Metro City population at large. She was never afraid of Megamind.
This was one of the best deep dives into a movie. I still run into people that have never seen it. Then after they do instantly fall in love with it. Thank you for explaining the awesome things to take from this movie and giving detailed examples on them. This video randomly popped up and glad I watched. Thank you for doing this one.
My one question is why the heck did megamind not just give himself metroman's powers after he beat Titan
Interesting easter egg I noticed only recently, Hal is a sort of mix of the two most popular Green Lantern characters. Hal comes from Hal Jordan, and Stewart comes from John Stewart. Idk if the movie meant for this, but I thought that was pretty cool. Great vid btw.
i will say that, while it is impossible to love each individual fan, it is possible to see fans as more than a paycheck. what i think of when i hear a celebrity or influcer say "i love you guys" is that they care about their audience not as a paycheck, but as an actual group of people. it's like how you "love" a country. you care about the people in the large group AS people.
In my mind, the best heroes are the ones that act heroic of their own will. Someone who genuinely wants to save people and protect them from the bad guy(s) to the best of their ability. If a hero only acts heroic out of a perceived necessity, then eventually they will become tired of it and quit.
True heroes don't act heroic, they ARE heroic.