The Fireless Steam Locomotives of Java - Semboro Sugar Mill

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @crestfallensunbro6001
    @crestfallensunbro6001 6 років тому +23

    Adorable little engines, they are in a bit of a state though...

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 3 роки тому +7

      Testament to the durability how they manage to keep going even being poorly cared for. If fuel runs out and the apocalypse hits steam will be king.

  • @hush6149
    @hush6149 Рік тому +1

    The state of these tracks could give the Uintah Railway a run for its money, freaky

  • @TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
    @TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan Рік тому

    Very cool video interesting to see that fireless engine in the background getting fed with more steam that’s pretty cool

  • @twistedmindsteam1449
    @twistedmindsteam1449 2 роки тому +4

    Those poor old locos look beat to absolute hell, hope they still work okay enough to be preserved one day. It would be a shame if these helpful little guys one day just up and got scratched because of how dinged up they are

    • @GoldHeart_TheOne
      @GoldHeart_TheOne 2 роки тому +1

      i belive the railway they run are closed now so i dont know if they did make it.

    • @Jupiter-rs4zl
      @Jupiter-rs4zl Рік тому

      They looked like that since they were made nothing changed

  • @robkunkel8833
    @robkunkel8833 Рік тому

    So what happens? Is there a master location creating steam and a hose comes down and fills the boiler, like filling air in a car tire? Did I miss seeing the “refueling”. Would that term be wrong? Call it “resteaming”? Thanks for the video.

  • @DuEHobbyfilmer
    @DuEHobbyfilmer 8 років тому +3

    Interesting video.

  • @eliasgarcia2684
    @eliasgarcia2684 Рік тому

    Donde es ese lugar disculpe la pregunta

  • @yeright4625
    @yeright4625 3 роки тому +1

    Sometimes when soil build up between the track, empty wagons would derail...

  • @MarcoRoepers
    @MarcoRoepers 7 років тому +8

    This weekend I saw another fireless steam locomotive, built by O&K It is this one and it is in working condition: ua-cam.com/video/IegQoRMLUdM/v-deo.html . It is built in 1913 and it had it pistons at the rear side, below the cab. Most of steam locomotives built in Germany have that set up.

  • @kevinstaddon8517
    @kevinstaddon8517 2 роки тому

    Saw some in Cuba 2009 at Brazil mill.

  • @Yellowstone216
    @Yellowstone216 2 роки тому

    I’ve seen this railway and it’s amazing

  • @matthewpastrikos7383
    @matthewpastrikos7383 Рік тому

    I never heard of fireless locomotives until i watched Train of Thought's video about it, my goodness i was surprised that it's actually possible to use a steam locomotive without a need of a firebox. Could it be that this was how the future of steam locomotives was going to be before diesel and electric came along? What if we build a fireless steam locomotive for express trains? The possibilities are endless!

    • @paulhorn2665
      @paulhorn2665 Рік тому +2

      Yes you can save energy in a steam boiler for some time and use it for shunting engines. But for express trains, you can not save enough steam in a boiler. The range would be too low... Similary to most electric cars nowadays...

    • @matthewpastrikos7383
      @matthewpastrikos7383 Рік тому

      @@paulhorn2665 So i suppose fireless steam locomotives are exclusively used for shunting duties? Also not every electric car is the same, some have longer ranges, some do not.

    • @paulhorn2665
      @paulhorn2665 Рік тому +1

      @@matthewpastrikos7383 Yes these where only for shunting duties...And with a external boiler or excess steam available. Here in germany I know one fireless loco from a paper factory, its just used for shunting from main station into the factory. its a new steam loco built in 1985 and its using process steam from paper factory, which is already there because needed for paper production, so there are no extra fuel costs for this locomotive!

    • @matthewpastrikos7383
      @matthewpastrikos7383 Рік тому

      @@paulhorn2665 Wow, i had no idea this fireless locomotive was a newly build.

    • @jensschroder8214
      @jensschroder8214 Рік тому +1

      All a fireless locomotive needs is hot steam. If hot steam is needed in the factory anyway, this is a good solution.
      The tank is half filled with water and then hot steam is introduced.
      Then new steam is created again and again until the boiler is completely cold.
      However, fireless lock motives are not suitable for driving long distances, they are ideal for shunting and short distances.
      Because there is no fire, these are also built more simply. They don't need a tender or a supply of coal either.

  • @markeholbrook
    @markeholbrook 8 років тому +4

    Fireless steam, how does this work?
    Electric would seem very inneficient.

    • @EvenFurtherRail
      @EvenFurtherRail  8 років тому +13

      A fireless steam locomotive has a reservoir (steam accumulator) instead of a boiler. This reservoir is charged with superheated water under pressure from a stationary boiler. You can see No: 2 being recharged at the beginning of the video. The engine works like a normal steam engine using the high pressure steam above the water in the accumulator. As the steam is used and pressure drops, the superheated water boils, replacing the used steam. The locomotive can work like this until the pressure has dropped to a minimum useful level or the water runs out, after which it must be recharged. These engines were very popular with industries that produced high pressure water or steam, eg, sugar mills, and in chemical and armament factories were a spark could cause an explosion.

    • @markeholbrook
      @markeholbrook 8 років тому +5

      Very interesting! I thought the steam would condense too quickly to be practical. I guess it's like a pressure cooker, a reservoir of super heated water keeps producing more steam for a while.

    • @jessalinryan6134
      @jessalinryan6134 6 років тому

      @@markeholbrook
      K
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    • @mchagnon7
      @mchagnon7 6 років тому +5

      You need electrical infastructure to run electrical locomotives. Third world countries struggle with that. Also, overhead power lines can arc and start fires. Fireless loco's are the ultimate low fire risk, as all they emit is steam.

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 3 роки тому +1

      @@mchagnon7 plus more reliable efficient and not as much of an eye-sore or radio interference issue as overhead lines are.

  • @наваливалюме-с3з
    @наваливалюме-с3з 4 роки тому

    Awesome

  • @thomashambly3718
    @thomashambly3718 6 років тому +3

    A bit battered aren't they

  • @richardsledgecock2110
    @richardsledgecock2110 3 роки тому +1

    Pollution free

    • @hexazalea
      @hexazalea Рік тому +1

      well they're pretty clean but stationary boiler they're fueled from might not be.

  • @larry92adventure65
    @larry92adventure65 Рік тому

    Sort of different to Australia’s trains