I hope the Chinese government realizes the historical significance of these locomotives along with the places used to build and maintain them and I hope they make this place a museum
One of the few(and I truly mean very very very few) things the Chinese government is actually pretty good for is preserving the cultural heritage of China and respecting their history. So if I had to guess I'd assume a lot more of their Steam operations have had some level of preservation than their American counterparts did 70-80 years ago
I believe at the DiaTong (Not sure how it's spelled) locomotive works there is something like a dozen locomotives neatly cleaned up and preserved there to recognize the importance of Chinese steam. There are various museums around China that have examples of their various locomotives preserved, and a few locomotives have even made it to the United States for use on excursion trains.
I saw a comment about these men being experienced fitters, and had a thought. that was true, and most steam railroaders in US have little more than 2nd hand knowledge about this stuff. My grandfather talked about working on logging railroads in the 30s and the little stuff he knew before he died was from real experience. now he is gone and all the others are too. but here in China we have REAL EXPERIENCE and KNOW-HOW that is priceless. I say forget about preserving the locos, preserve the know-how!
So what good is the know how without steam locos to practice it on? you big dumbo ! Forget about preserving steam locos they were your words! whats the good of one without the other? 🤦♂️
Durango Silverton Railroad fitters would like to have a word with you...they keep them running every day. If anything, this shop in China is a sister to the D&SNG shop.
the fact that they invested in this shop so heavily in the early 2000s extended the life of these trains another 30+ years. right now they are capable of making any part or repair needed
Its so funny! we have a bunch of saftey experts here, your all worried about goggles bahahaha idiots ....... I guess you didnt see the the man with an arch welder standing in water welding up some component....... Or the man with the cutting tourch just spraying the gas hoses with molten metal from the cut hahahaha and your all worried about saftey goggles!
To those who saying there was no eye protection for welding, take a closer look at what they were holding in the left hand while welding. Hard hat and work boots have been widely used for at least four decades. Using fall protection is enforced more recently. One thing to complain about is not being required to wearing goggles while torching. As for the comment saying these workers seem to be eating decently...just open your eyes and take a look at outside world.
2020 will be the sad day that these units won't run anymore and all these people will work for Apple making dumb phones. China is the last stronghold of skilled steam locomotive laborers and machinists. They deserve respect. But 8 units of that type would look marvelous in New Haven colors, just saying. Maybe it's time the Valley Railroad expanded their fleet.
They would marvellous in any colour scheme, not just New Haven. Considering these engines will be put out to pasture in 2020 if they have not done so already, there is a great chance that these engines will become available for sale at good prices. And considering how “young” they are compared to engines here in North America, this makes them prime candidates for operation and restoration.
I wish I could visit China and see these things before there last year. Also will China still use them for lesser jobs or will it be completely Diesel and electrics...if it was my country I’d convert them to oil or synthetic fuel burners and keep them running on less heavy jobs like as back up engines or short line workers.....also does China have museums or no ?
@@MontyCantsin5 i think he ment the guy brazing up that super heater element with the oxy, not the guy standing in water using a stick welder bahahahaha 😂 gold !
Wow, thank you for uploading another amazing video. I wish I had opportunity to see that in person before it's all gone. I imagine you have to have some incredible contacts to get into some of the places you've filmed.
FarRail are doing another tour there in Nov / Dec 2018. It's pretty easy to go independently or with private guide. Just don't mention on your visa application that you are going anywhere near Xinjing Uyghur.
In England these lads would be called enthusiasts making sure that the old skills don't die out and passing on their knowledge here however it's the job and you have a trainee apprentice and you get paid for doing that job one to be proud of
Definitely not getting the Flying Scotsman treatment here. It’s all basic, rough and ready stuff with one objective and that is to keep things working. I’ll give them their due though, it works. They just get on with it and keep it running.
I agree it's as if history is being repeated like the United States did 70 years earlier in the 1950s China is entering its Twilight of steam and the railroad is slowly committing to Total dieselazatian
I am willing to bet that those chinese men love and cling to their way of life just as we did here in Britain when we were gradually losing ours.you either love it or you leave.railwaymen the same everywhere.
2:07 Oxy welding superheater elements with a cutting head, yep, we're in China! Interesting to see workplace safety starting to creep in with the hard hats and fall arrest harnesses though
I've just replied to another post stating that there will soon be more working examples of Chinese steam locomotives (SY, QJ, JS) in the US than in China.
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I hope the Chinese government realizes the historical significance of these locomotives along with the places used to build and maintain them and I hope they make this place a museum
One of the few(and I truly mean very very very few) things the Chinese government is actually pretty good for is preserving the cultural heritage of China and respecting their history.
So if I had to guess I'd assume a lot more of their Steam operations have had some level of preservation than their American counterparts did 70-80 years ago
I believe at the DiaTong (Not sure how it's spelled) locomotive works there is something like a dozen locomotives neatly cleaned up and preserved there to recognize the importance of Chinese steam. There are various museums around China that have examples of their various locomotives preserved, and a few locomotives have even made it to the United States for use on excursion trains.
I saw a comment about these men being experienced fitters, and had a thought. that was true, and most steam railroaders in US have little more than 2nd hand knowledge about this stuff. My grandfather talked about working on logging railroads in the 30s and the little stuff he knew before he died was from real experience. now he is gone and all the others are too. but here in China we have REAL EXPERIENCE and KNOW-HOW that is priceless. I say forget about preserving the locos, preserve the know-how!
So what good is the know how without steam locos to practice it on? you big dumbo !
Forget about preserving steam locos they were your words! whats the good of one without the other? 🤦♂️
Durango Silverton Railroad fitters would like to have a word with you...they keep them running every day. If anything, this shop in China is a sister to the D&SNG shop.
I say both!!
the fact that they invested in this shop so heavily in the early 2000s extended the life of these trains another 30+ years. right now they are capable of making any part or repair needed
I noticed a big difference in this shop.....these men are actually doing some work!!
NOT a sweatshop. Very skilled fitters at work. I was just a bit worried by the welder/ brazer not wearing protective goggles.
The man working the lathe should be wearing goggles as well.
They need stickers all over their hard hats and Yeti coolers so that everyone knows they take their jobs seriously.
Stephen Smith don’t rorry he squrinting no ploblem
Its so funny! we have a bunch of saftey experts here, your all worried about goggles bahahaha idiots .......
I guess you didnt see the the man with an arch welder standing in water welding up some component.......
Or the man with the cutting tourch just spraying the gas hoses with molten metal from the cut hahahaha and your all worried about saftey goggles!
@@kiwitrainguy I'll bet you've never worked a lathe in your life! He knows what hes doing thats why he's at the lathe and your not 😌!
To those who saying there was no eye protection for welding, take a closer look at what they were holding in the left hand while welding. Hard hat and work boots have been widely used for at least four decades. Using fall protection is enforced more recently. One thing to complain about is not being required to wearing goggles while torching. As for the comment saying these workers seem to be eating decently...just open your eyes and take a look at outside world.
всё хорошо! 6.00 заметил что токарные станки ухоженые чистые ,видимо после работы их обслуживают и протирают
Not only machine...look at their appearance..they are not sloppy but discipline and well organized!.
2020 will be the sad day that these units won't run anymore and all these people will work for Apple making dumb phones. China is the last stronghold of skilled steam locomotive laborers and machinists. They deserve respect.
But 8 units of that type would look marvelous in New Haven colors, just saying. Maybe it's time the Valley Railroad expanded their fleet.
They would marvellous in any colour scheme, not just New Haven. Considering these engines will be put out to pasture in 2020 if they have not done so already, there is a great chance that these engines will become available for sale at good prices. And considering how “young” they are compared to engines here in North America, this makes them prime candidates for operation and restoration.
I think these look better than the other Chinese locomotives that were already brought to the U.S. They don't need fake paint schemes though.
To get respect you must earn it.
There are examples for foreign engines that are owned by American railroads and these engines are technically famous
@@alexanderpoirier3350 Southern Pacific would be more appropriate for the Semi streamlined/stack and sand dome shrouded versions of these locos.
@3:49 They're using fall protection? I don't even use fall protection and I'm the most safety-minded person at any steam railroad I've ever been at!
what's happening to the old steamers are they being scraped or restored
Thanks for posting this, I was impressed by the guy @ 2:08 gas welding, with a cutting head on the torch!! Usually one used a special welding tip.
And did you happen to catch the manufacture's name on that lathe at the end?
No. But it was Chinese.
He,s gonna be BLIND when hes 50 yo.NO EYE PROTECTION.
you are totally right.....they are crazy!!!
knew i didnt have to look too far before i found Mr Knowitall
I wish I could visit China and see these things before there last year. Also will China still use them for lesser jobs or will it be completely Diesel and electrics...if it was my country I’d convert them to oil or synthetic fuel burners and keep them running on less heavy jobs like as back up engines or short line workers.....also does China have museums or no ?
When the coal mine close, there will be no need for any locomotive of any type. There are a few museums and one heritage line - Shibanxi.
Even Further Rail man that’s sad but oh well at least I can tell my kids I lived through the Chinese steam age XD
They do have museum and some steam trains are being preserved.
There are very few places left on this planet where one can see these skills still being practiced.
Nice stuff Doug.
Thanks Mate
Cutting and welding with no eye protection. So sad.
Can you provide a time stamp to indicate the section(s) of the video showing welding without a helmet?
@@MontyCantsin5 i think he ment the guy brazing up that super heater element with the oxy, not the guy standing in water using a stick welder bahahahaha 😂 gold !
@@MontyCantsin5 2:05
@@Glopbop: I still don't see anyone welding without a helmet at 2:05.
Wow, thank you for uploading another amazing video. I wish I had opportunity to see that in person before it's all gone. I imagine you have to have some incredible contacts to get into some of the places you've filmed.
FarRail are doing another tour there in Nov / Dec 2018. It's pretty easy to go independently or with private guide. Just don't mention on your visa application that you are going anywhere near Xinjing Uyghur.
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Are they going to scrap them because I hope not, they should at least try and preserve one
There is a JS 2-8-2 in Boone Iowa, but it's not from this railroad.
Great film. Love these locos!
I would love to work on one of those steam engines
In England these lads would be called enthusiasts making sure that the old skills don't die out and passing on their knowledge here however it's the job and you have a trainee apprentice and you get paid for doing that job one to be proud of
Definitely not getting the Flying Scotsman treatment here. It’s all basic, rough and ready stuff with one objective and that is to keep things working. I’ll give them their due though, it works. They just get on with it and keep it running.
Fall protection, helmets, and work boots. Oh, and they look like they are eating decently. Good job China on modernization. P.S. Eyepro is helpful.
jed-henry Witkowski it’s incredible to see comment like this in 2018...
Thanks for sharing! Very Nice video, its too bad the locos are soon to be gone.
The clean air act is going to affect everybody
I agree it's as if history is being repeated like the United States did 70 years earlier in the 1950s China is entering its Twilight of steam and the railroad is slowly committing to Total dieselazatian
Nice video! Thank you, EFR.
Gorgeus machines! Real mytological monsters! Happy to see them at work
Hard hats the only safety equipment lots of welding and torching no safety goggles great video!
Does China still operate steam?
Yes. Still running in Sandaoling, possibly until 2022.
Fascinating!
I am willing to bet that those chinese men love and cling to their way of life just as we did here in Britain when we were gradually losing ours.you either love it or you leave.railwaymen the same everywhere.
The once roaring beasts of the railway,have now been scilence by the torch.
Never too see another day...
2:07 Oxy welding superheater elements with a cutting head, yep, we're in China! Interesting to see workplace safety starting to creep in with the hard hats and fall arrest harnesses though
I'd bet the hard hats haven't been around for very long either. What saddens me is the lack of eye protection.
In Iowa, USA 2 steam locos were bought from China because they were the last place that build them :)
I've just replied to another post stating that there will soon be more working examples of Chinese steam locomotives (SY, QJ, JS) in the US than in China.
100% steampunk!
Notice the lack of even simple protection for the workers? Yet when it;'s about computer savvy, they are excellent!
Hey man don't take it off it's such beautiful romantic creation of man it's out of India let it remain some where 👈👈👈👈
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