Castlevania Legacy of Darkness (Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo 64 w/ Expansion Pak) Gameplay Comparison

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  • @Mr.Atari2600
    @Mr.Atari2600 2 дні тому +32

    Without Expansion pak: Hey this is running too smooth! Are you sure this is N64?
    With Expansion pak: Now that's the accurate N64 frame rate.

    • @Nutty151
      @Nutty151 2 дні тому +7

      "Expansion Pack *Enhanced"* , biggest crock of sh*t I've ever read in my life. Pay more to have the game run worse, lmao.

    • @Mr.Atari2600
      @Mr.Atari2600 День тому +4

      @@Nutty151 I feel like Quake 2 is the only game that actually made good use with the expansion pak. Just enhance textures & more stable frame rate instead of increasing resolution.

    • @Nutty151
      @Nutty151 День тому

      @@Mr.Atari2600 And Donkey Kong 64, literally can't play the game without it.

    • @UFighterX
      @UFighterX День тому +1

      Turok 2 looked pretty nice textures were super crisp it looked like a pc game. The framerate and game were still crap though. $30 little piece of tech to play around with wasn’t so bad.

    • @davidaitken8503
      @davidaitken8503 День тому

      @@Mr.Atari2600 Donkey Kong 64, Zelda Majora's Mask, Perfect Dark, Rayman 2, Gauntlet Legends, Rush 2049, Turok 2, Rogue Squadron, and Battle For Naboo, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, and Vigilante 8 all made good use of the Expansion Pak too.

  • @ColoniaContraAtaca
    @ColoniaContraAtaca 2 дні тому +32

    What a shame... another game loosing so many frames because of resolution :(

    • @ElsweyrDiego
      @ElsweyrDiego 2 дні тому +1

      pois é, eu acho esse jogo lindo! o expansion pak realmente tira os serrilhados na moral. mas fazer o que, o 64 não tanka resolução maior, sempre tem penalidade no frame rate. mas jogaço, uma pena que a movimentação do personagem estragou um pouco o jogo, não tem peso, ele parece flutuar / deslizar, não tem consistência, isso seria essencial :(

    • @DanielCenciD
      @DanielCenciD 2 дні тому

      que bom que voce pode escolher né hehe o 64 tem muito lag pela dificuldade de otimizar o problema de barramento da memória RAM

    • @DanielCenciD
      @DanielCenciD 2 дні тому

      Esse jogo é AWESOME, mas eu realmente não vejo grande diferença no framerate, só em momentos bem especificos

    • @Bruno_BruhSix9
      @Bruno_BruhSix9 2 дні тому +1

      Tô ansioso pra ver vc jogando esse Castlevania, é meu Castlevania 3D favorito, zerei esses dias de novo, ele é absurdamente melhor que o Castlevania 64, é basicamente o jogo definitivo, ainda dá pra jogar com a Carrie e o Renhardt do 1º jogo, o único ponto negativo é que tiraram as poucas dublagens que tinham do primeiro jogo.

    • @davidaitken8503
      @davidaitken8503 День тому

      I've played through this game countless times. The game itself is awesome but Konami never bothered to do anything worthwhile with the Expansion Pak. It was basically just checking off another accessory on the game box with them.

  • @sharpester7277
    @sharpester7277 2 дні тому +36

    With the Expansion Pack in high-resolution mode, it badly tanks the games framerate.

    • @_rats824
      @_rats824 День тому

      literal meme add-on

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому

      So....what it feels like having no brain?

  • @vcdecide
    @vcdecide  День тому +9

    I’d like to share a personal opinion about this game that goes against what most people think of it. My take is that this game is really good! I know people love to criticize this Castlevania or Castlevania 64 (which is almost the same game), but I honestly have fun playing this Castlevania on the N64.
    It’s not a bad game, or at least not as bad as many people make it out to be. Maybe it doesn’t have the same level of polish and detail as the 2D Castlevania games, especially the 2D Castlevania that came out around the same time (Castlevania SOTN), but it’s genuinely fun, especially considering it was the first 3D entry in the series.
    The camera in the game isn’t that bad once you get used to it and use the necessary buttons to fix it when needed. The frame rate is also generally acceptable when played without the Expansion Pak, and the bosses are easy and fun to fight. Even the platforming is enjoyable (as long as no enemy suddenly appears and knocks you off a platform, which does happen).
    Another thing I find interesting about this game is that you can finish it in under 4 hours, meaning you can even try speedrunning it. The more you play this game, the better you get at it, and the faster you complete it.
    Now, as for comparisons, noticing and understanding the differences depends on your level of familiarity and insight. If you have a higher level of understanding, you’ll spot a slight improvement in resolution, the application of a blur filter (Bilinear Filter) that helps soften and reduce some jitter, and you’ll notice the numerous frame drops, which make the cutscenes play faster. However, just because they’re faster doesn’t mean they’re smoother, as there are several dropped frames.
    Overall, the game is heavily compromised when using the Expansion Pak in High-Resolution mode. Platforming becomes a much bigger challenge if you’re not familiar with it, and performance drops considerably in detailed areas, like boss fights, scenes with multiple enemies, or lots of activity happening on screen. In general, this mode isn’t really worth playing. I’d only recommend the Expansion Pak for those already familiar with the game who want a tougher challenge, as the controls genuinely suffer if you’re not used to playing games at low framerates. That’s not my case, but that doesn’t mean I can’t notice the differences. The differences are obvious, and that’s why I’m mentioning them - because playing with the Expansion Pak genuinely worsens the experience, with the graphic improvement not making up for the framerate drop and worsened playability.
    Apart from these details about playing with the Expansion Pak, it’s a really great game that I recommend you try. If you’re one of those people who criticize this game based on others’ opinions, I encourage you to give it a shot to see if you don’t actually enjoy it rather than just following the crowd. It’s really fun once you understand how the game, camera, controls, and gameplay work.
    And finally, this game gives off a bit of a God of War prototype vibe. Hold on - I’m not saying it’s similar to God of War, but there are many moments that remind me of God of War, where the developers of God of War may well have been partially inspired by this Castlevania, which so many love to criticize.

    • @JohnCharb87
      @JohnCharb87 День тому +2

      I think timing was an issue. Being released in 1999 after the groundbreaking Castlevania Symphony of the Night which is regarded as possibly the best in the franchise. Not to mention depending on the game type going from 2d to 3d is a major state of contention. "They made Castlevania suck by making it 3d...look how ugly it looks....This not the Castlevania I remember. Talk a about Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time rip off."

  • @MoonSarito
    @MoonSarito 2 дні тому +24

    I'm starting to think that Quake 2 was the only game that used the Expansion Pak correctly.
    Instead of focusing on increasing the resolution (which drastically reduces the framerate due to the weight on the GPU) they focused on improving the quality of textures and other graphic effects such as better shadow quality and greater draw-distance.
    The difference between Quake 2 with and without the expansion pak is night and day, I would love to see a comparison here on the channel.

    • @GiovanniMejiaSantana
      @GiovanniMejiaSantana 2 дні тому +16

      That video is already posted in this channel 😁

    • @pukalo
      @pukalo День тому +5

      Donkey Kong 64 also uses the Expansion Pak for its advanced lighting effects. The story that it was used to fix a game-breaking bug is untrue.

    • @AfterBurnerTeirusu
      @AfterBurnerTeirusu День тому

      Rush 2049 added larger tracks and a great soundtrack.

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому +7

      Its impossible to "improve the textures" with the expansion pack....textures are not limited in any way by having 4MB or 8MB of RAM, it changes nothing.......Quake2 doesnt improve the textures, it allows the game to run in Higher color depth which makes the game look sharper by removing dithering and alllows the textures to shine more, but the textures are the same......why you people keep insisting on talking about things you dont understand?

    • @AfterBurnerTeirusu
      @AfterBurnerTeirusu День тому +7

      @@jhkuno88 They probably got the info from some popular youtuber, and didn't look into it. It's (sadly) pretty normal nowadays.

  • @M1XART
    @M1XART 2 дні тому +15

    This is the best 3D Castlevania to me & i always prefer to play it on HI-REZ.
    I don't know nor care what others think about it.

    • @DanielCenciD
      @DanielCenciD 2 дні тому

      Me too, this is my favorite Castlevania and I play with Expansion Pak, I can't see the difference on framerate

    • @M1XART
      @M1XART День тому

      @@DanielCenciD I can notice slight drop on framerate. But tradeoff is certainly worth it, unlike say, Hybrid Heaven.

  • @cizar2000
    @cizar2000 День тому +3

    The frame rate was dropped to 16 fps and I do not recommend using an expander. But it's worth saying that this game already has textures that are in very high resolution for the time, even better than the 3D versions of Castelavania for PS2 which have very blurry textures. This version of Legacy is incredible with well-introduced fogs, the sound quality is high, many surprise elements, varied scenarios, it is without a doubt the best Castlevania 3D, even much better than its successors for the PS2 which are repetitive and with little varied scenarios.

    • @themeangene
      @themeangene 18 годин тому

      I agree ! LoD is the best 3d version of Castlevania

  • @VampireKillerCrypt
    @VampireKillerCrypt 2 дні тому +2

    Still my favorite Castlevania!

  • @rickynotengo7718
    @rickynotengo7718 День тому +1

    Stills best 3d Castlevania, framerate issues was not a problem for the time. Truly impressive, same visuals as the first Dreamcast games.

  • @AirFerno
    @AirFerno 2 дні тому +4

    ... Me parece que o rate-frame do jogo com o ExpansionPak dá uma queda, sendo menos fluído.

  • @robinbourke1230
    @robinbourke1230 День тому +1

    You have to up the resolution on UA-cam to see the resolution difference. In any case it is rather subtle, whereas the framerate is quite noticeably lower w/ exp. pack. Personally I think it was cool to have a performance vs. resolution option. Back then we didn't think that much about framerate but for this game I think the low res option is preferable

  • @misterniggo7635
    @misterniggo7635 2 дні тому +2

    I'm playing this on my n64. I didn't have the expansion pak at first, but now that I have it, I play on HI-RES. On my CRT the increase in graphic quality is more noticeable, textures look less mushy, there are less dither and gains a little of draw distance. The framerate loss is out of question, but playing it I noticed that even if choppy, it doesn't slow down on open areas. To people who can't see the resolution difference, watch the video on fullscreen and the max resolution your monitor can handle.

    • @teamdoa
      @teamdoa День тому +1

      I think playing on a CRT definitely improves both aspects.

    • @misterniggo7635
      @misterniggo7635 День тому

      @@teamdoa It does. But even if it's not possible to faithfully reproduce CRT looks con a video, these videos still show the differences between consoles and add ons.

    • @teamdoa
      @teamdoa День тому

      @@misterniggo7635 Yes, I agree.

  • @lostsektor
    @lostsektor 2 дні тому +3

    eu lembro a decepção q eu tive quando peguei um expansion pak e todo jogo q dava suporte e ai vc usava esse modo de alta resolução so acabava com o frame rate do jogo em troca de uma melhora leve na resolução. considerando q a maioria dos jogos do 64 ja sofrem pra rodar normalmente, usando esse modo deixava maioria dos jogos um nojo de jogar. n compensa nem um pouco nesse caso aqui tb. curioso que o jogo sem o pak rodando com mais frame rate fica ficando pra tras na sicronia da cutscene, sera q aceleram a versão do expansion pak tentando compensa o fps baixo?

  • @daveshen0880
    @daveshen0880 День тому +1

    How about the game with low resolution with Expansion pak?

  • @JohnCharb87
    @JohnCharb87 2 дні тому +1

    Second watch just noticed an edit. Nice catch is all I have to say. The cutscenes seem to happen faster on the Expansion Pak. Wait the cutscenes are a little different in each version. The Expansion Pak version of the burning village is missing the heat wave visual. I'll damned the clock moves faster and smoother on the Expansion Pak version. Overall the developers put a lot into the music. I think the boss theme is from Rondo of Blood. Plus the music during Forest of Silence reminds me of the song Drum Jam from Kylesa.

  • @superhadouken
    @superhadouken 2 дні тому +11

    I dont see the higher resolution but i can see the lower framerate

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 2 дні тому +3

      I can easily see it, every straight line that's at a slight angle shows a pixel craw effect due to aliasing because of the lower resolution while the higher resolution doesn't show it as much.
      1:50 shows what I'm talking about quite clearly, just look at the wall on the left of each screen.

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 2 дні тому +5

      The game runs at twice the resolution so of you dont see ot go to the Doctor ASAP

    • @DanielCenciD
      @DanielCenciD 2 дні тому +1

      I can see Higher res and dont see much difference on framerate XD

    • @MoonSarito
      @MoonSarito 2 дні тому +1

      The difference in resolution is quite noticeable if you watch it in Full Screen.
      If I'm not mistaken, the game runs at 640x480 when activating "High Resolution" mode with the expansion pak and at just 320x240 if you leave the option disabled or don't use the expansion pak at all.

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому +2

      @@MoonSarito Castlevania LoD in "Hi Rez" mode runs exactly at 448x336 resolution.....ive seen an extracted capture of the framebuffer....so its more like Turok2 its running at "medium resolution" we could say

  • @SturmAH
    @SturmAH День тому +1

    Is there any difference in performance when in low resolution w/expansion vs. without expansion pack?

  • @hababacon
    @hababacon День тому

    Loving the music.

  • @jairdiasdarochajunior7734
    @jairdiasdarochajunior7734 2 дні тому +2

    Estou curtindo esses vídeos comparativos do N64

  • @Ramonegghead
    @Ramonegghead День тому +1

    É basicamente modo gráfico e modo desempenho que temos hoje em dia.

  • @madson-web
    @madson-web 2 дні тому +2

    Higher resolution but at what cost. I don't think it looks good either way. But this is more about the art direction and N64 itself

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому +2

      The game looks excellent, and the art direction is above most games of its era

  • @laura9x64
    @laura9x64 2 дні тому +1

    makes me wonder if theres a difference between the version without the expansion pak and the expansion pak low res mode. potentially could have a better framerate

    • @BeefJerkey
      @BeefJerkey 23 години тому

      The "expansion pak" adds RAM, so I doubt it would improve the framerate.

  • @JohnCharb87
    @JohnCharb87 2 дні тому +1

    The expansion pack version is flawed. Especially the framerate and overall smoothness. What caught my attention is during the ship sinking. Say around 14:48. You fiddle around in first person view. The non Expansion version moves around seamlessly. While the Expansion version seams slower with every direction input.

  • @whippinsean
    @whippinsean 2 дні тому +1

    The video leads me to believe that neither has the EXP turned on?

  • @cyberpc1333
    @cyberpc1333 2 дні тому +2

    Aqui realmente o Expansion Pak melhorou a textura e resolução, porém parece ter um framerate pior!

  • @Andy_Robotsan
    @Andy_Robotsan День тому

    I'm playing this right now for the first time. I'm enjoying it in high resolution mode but the framerate sure takes a dip. I'll try it in low resolution mode.

  • @kaistudios5206
    @kaistudios5206 2 дні тому +1

    A imagem no expansion pak de fato é melhorada(ele tira os serrilhados) mas diminui muito o framerate

  • @jackiechun6540
    @jackiechun6540 2 дні тому +5

    once again the Expansion Pak just lowers the framerate, the slightly higher resolution is pointless when the textures are so blurry

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 2 дні тому +3

      Speeds up the loading for camera cuts too.
      Yet another improvement so slight that it feels like it was to check off a box in crunch, rather than the game being built with that mode in mind.

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 2 дні тому +3

      The texture resolution has nothing to do with image quality.....the resolution is TWICE the normal mode and its very noticeable......go get your eyes checked they not working properly

  • @kimsnk
    @kimsnk 2 дні тому

    tem aquele mod do n64 que aumenta a velocidade do processador seria interessante testar com um mod de overclock e expansion pak.

  • @wizzgamer
    @wizzgamer 2 дні тому

    The one on the right looks blurier

  • @parazels83
    @parazels83 2 дні тому +4

    Another laggy, low-poly hell on Nintendo 64...

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 2 дні тому +3

      Is barely laggy in low res mode and its as low-poly as any other game of its era......i think you might ve confused this with a Sega Saturn game

  • @AlexandreAlex-o4g
    @AlexandreAlex-o4g 2 дні тому

    O famoso: "no pé ou na mão?"

  • @e-musickvance3581
    @e-musickvance3581 День тому

    Have Expansion Pak but will not turn Hi Res on.

  • @n64fan60
    @n64fan60 2 дні тому

    Low-res wins by a significant margin.

  • @multiversodfiguras
    @multiversodfiguras 8 годин тому

    en n64 no sirve el EP solo baja los frames por eso me paso el juego normal sin EP

  • @EdgarJPG
    @EdgarJPG 2 дні тому

    The controller of the expansion pak version looks blurry 😂

  • @PrimevalDemon
    @PrimevalDemon День тому

    2nd best castlevania

  • @jonatasoares4712
    @jonatasoares4712 2 дні тому

    Parece que com expansor pack esta tendo queda de fps.

  • @dan_perry
    @dan_perry 2 дні тому +1

    So the expansion pak is an upgrade that drops performance...hardware fail.

  • @Crystallums
    @Crystallums 2 дні тому +1

    The difference is not noticeable or in this case it is insignificant... 😒

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому

      It runs at twice the resolution, if you cant see it go to see a Doctor ASAP

    • @Crystallums
      @Crystallums День тому +1

      @@jhkuno88 Yes, of course, it looks so different on a CRT TV... Train yourself on the subject first or go back to school.

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому

      @@Crystallums so on top of being an ignorant dvmb beach, youre also cocky.......pathetic

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому

      @@Crystallums so not only your eyes dont work but your brain also......so sad

    • @Crystallums
      @Crystallums День тому

      @@jhkuno88 Worse yet... what a pity that you are only a 'Zombie' of advertising... ha

  • @megabyteDeSu.
    @megabyteDeSu. 23 години тому

    OK, more memory = more resolution, but lower FPS

  • @DanielCenciD
    @DanielCenciD 2 дні тому +1

    Agilizou esse video pq eu pedi em todos né? pode falar

  • @reeyees50
    @reeyees50 День тому +1

    Expansion Lag

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB 2 дні тому

    Later expansion pak titles gave an option to increase rez or framerate

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 День тому +1

      Lol, no. Why do you lie?

  • @TiagoxInside
    @TiagoxInside День тому

    Castlevania e 3D ate hoje nenhum prestou!

  • @RAFAKSBR
    @RAFAKSBR 2 дні тому

    com a expansão parece um game atual em hd. Dizem q os castlevanias do 64 sao os melhores da geração.

  • @cliffchampion5501
    @cliffchampion5501 2 дні тому +2

    This game was unplayable

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 2 дні тому

      No

    • @timothykirby4406
      @timothykirby4406 День тому +2

      I played and beat it on N64. Definitely with the expansion pack turned off.

  • @markvinis
    @markvinis 2 дні тому +1

    Sinceramente este castlevania é uma piada,o expansion pak não ajuda muito.

  • @1977Bonishow-man
    @1977Bonishow-man 2 дні тому

    Para ser honesto,acho o jogo uma porcaria, com ou sem expansão!