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    00:00 - Intro
    What's up, you guys? In today's video, I will discuss why Toyota has gone too far with its inventory and pricing situation.
    00:17 - Despite High Prices, The Land Cruiser is Still Priced High
    01:13 - Real Dealership Prices
    03:03 - It Gets Even Worse
    04:00 - Land Cruiser Demand
    05:03 - 4Runner Prices Aren't Looking Good
    08:07 - Closing
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 809

  • @anthonynguyen9779
    @anthonynguyen9779 24 дні тому +739

    Don't buy. Stop buying. Problem solved.😃

    • @sachinnair91
      @sachinnair91 24 дні тому +11

      Good advice but what if we need to buy a new vehicle now because our old vehicle broke down? I'm in that situation now in Ft Worth Texas and looking for a new 2024 Toyota Corolla LE sedan. All the Toyota DFW dealerships are selling new Corollas for 3-4k over MSRP and refusing to bring the price down. Corollas are a low supply high demand vehicle so dealerships easily sell them for over MSRP. They have no need to discount a Corolla for me, should I just buy a Mazda 3 or Civic instead? I can buy both the 3 or the Civic for under MSRP

    • @javadabaron81
      @javadabaron81 24 дні тому +52

      @@sachinnair91then you buy the cheaper vehicles bud

    • @R3AP3R718
      @R3AP3R718 24 дні тому +14

      ​@@sachinnair91 then you buy it...but there is a lot of people that wanna buy whatever is newest no matter what it cost

    • @yahooskip
      @yahooskip 24 дні тому +18

      Go to where they aren’t charging extra

    • @GrandPrix46
      @GrandPrix46 23 дні тому +3

      Been doing that for... my whole life. Just waiting for you guys to join me.

  • @MichaelIp
    @MichaelIp 24 дні тому +462

    Over msrp = not getting my business. I hate these greedy dealerships

    • @jameng1315
      @jameng1315 23 дні тому +5

      these manufacturers can sell directly to consumers instead of this dealerships bs

    • @mk2mister2
      @mk2mister2 23 дні тому +8

      @@jameng1315 No, they are not allowed to by law.

    • @jorgezepeda2461
      @jorgezepeda2461 23 дні тому +1

      You are literally over paying for everything else.

    • @johnathoncastro
      @johnathoncastro 22 дні тому +3

      ​@@jorgezepeda2461 so you're ok with getting ripped off ?

    • @Flash413
      @Flash413 22 дні тому +1

      For every one of you there are others who will pay a markup

  • @markc7274
    @markc7274 24 дні тому +448

    Only one to blame is the American consumer that flocks to these cars regardless of price.

    • @rodneywk1
      @rodneywk1 24 дні тому +14

      Exactly!

    • @AyaWetts
      @AyaWetts 23 дні тому +26

      people are horrible with money... oh I only gotta pay $800 a month for the next 10 years... deal! 🤪

    • @joerivas9847
      @joerivas9847 23 дні тому +5

      Yup. I remember in the 80s EVERYBODY had to have a Porsche, then the Jeep Cherokee, then..............

    • @NCrdwlf
      @NCrdwlf 22 дні тому +5

      It's all the overlanding dip $#*%$.

    • @budstep7361
      @budstep7361 22 дні тому +11

      Debt binges usually end with a bang... This bubble is gonna be wild when it pops

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 23 дні тому +56

    80K for a 4-banger hybrid turbo? NO THANKS 🖕

    • @schwartzmatthewe
      @schwartzmatthewe 13 годин тому

      I couldn’t believe it was a 4 cylinder. This will not age well.

    • @dylantech
      @dylantech 7 годин тому

      Yeah, I think I’ll just keep my 6-banger ‘21 4Runner 4ever.

    • @honda116969
      @honda116969 4 години тому

      @@dylantech i would of i was u.. I have a 2022 Tacoma TRD off-road manual & keeping mine as long as i can

  • @mann8098
    @mann8098 24 дні тому +212

    Now that the engines are smaller, have turbo (aren't naturally aspirated), recalls and issues are popping up. They can keep their new Landcruisers. Reliability is not the same.

    • @benjaminv.3172
      @benjaminv.3172 24 дні тому +31

      100%. The new (made in Mexico) Tacomas and Tundras are hot garbage in build quality, and I’ve started to hear of build quality issues with the new GX. All this on top of the well-documented engine issues. Sad how far Toyota has fallen.

    • @mann8098
      @mann8098 24 дні тому +17

      @benjaminv.3172 The GX is legendary, and they just messed that up too

    • @mydian76
      @mydian76 23 дні тому

      @@benjaminv.3172 Tundra's are made in Texas

    • @benjaminv.3172
      @benjaminv.3172 23 дні тому +18

      @@mann8098 Yep, cheap plastics with the interior, hood rattle, more body roll, louder cabin noise. UA-camr Josh’s Cars of Japan did a great review of the GX550 and how far the quality has fallen compared to Lexus of the past. Keeping my decade-old GX460 as long as possible.

    • @NCrdwlf
      @NCrdwlf 22 дні тому +9

      My parents volvo xc90 has a four Banger with a turbo and supercharger and they've already replaced the engine at 60k. Along with a bunch of electronics .

  • @bikinggreg
    @bikinggreg 24 дні тому +203

    Anybody who would pay over sticker for a Toyota, given the engine problems they're having with the new tundras, is out of their mind.

    • @judahnanas9772
      @judahnanas9772 22 дні тому +19

      With or without engine problem, NOBODY unless you have deep pockets, should buy ANY car ABOVE MSRP. And banks shoudnt finance anything above msrp!

    • @markkennedy5335
      @markkennedy5335 22 дні тому

      Who says I’m buying a Tundra. This is illegal practice in Canada, why can’t the good old USA do the same? Go to your State senate.

    • @mister_dave1184
      @mister_dave1184 21 день тому

      ​@@markkennedy5335I watch a guy in Canada and he shows that every car is over msrp?

    • @DarrenGoodman
      @DarrenGoodman 15 днів тому +1

      Agree re paying above MSRP. The Tundra is a manufacturing problem not an engineering problem. The Land Cruiser and T4R are made in Japan. Seems to make a difference.

    • @closer71
      @closer71 13 днів тому

      @@judahnanas9772Banks always will though. Because extended service contracts, GAP policies and hard adds are BIG money makers.

  • @jameshoopes6467
    @jameshoopes6467 24 дні тому +82

    The purpose of a dealership is to grift as much money out of you as possible. I’d call them thieves, but when you walk in voluntarily, you get screwed by choice.

    • @LK-bz9sk
      @LK-bz9sk 23 дні тому +2

      Yes. Vulture middle men inserted between us and the manufacturer. Like the Realtor model.

    • @vladislavmkrtychev8852
      @vladislavmkrtychev8852 22 дні тому +1

      So how else would I buy a new vehicle?

    • @MattRolls5280
      @MattRolls5280 22 дні тому +3

      Dealerships are a necessity of the system due to regulation prohibiting automakers from selling directly to buyers. It is a “consumer protection” regulation. Now you know who to blame for this.

    • @punchcat0736
      @punchcat0736 21 день тому

      Wrong deslers compete with other dealers and that help push the price down . Go get a Tesla that has worked so well for the consumer 🤣🤣🤣

    • @marcochavanne
      @marcochavanne 8 днів тому

      That's capitalism baby!

  • @peteremmett8332
    @peteremmett8332 24 дні тому +105

    Greed greed greed...don't buy into it. It's unreal what goes on in the U.S. You don't need a Toyota that bad...

    • @joeashbubemma
      @joeashbubemma 24 дні тому

      Is it though? Do you understand how the global markets, central banking system works? Communists use this catch all word to hide the fact that they know NOTHING about economics, and more than likely support the very tyrants who creates and perpetuates it all.

    • @Bonanzaking
      @Bonanzaking 23 дні тому +3

      Lmao debatable. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard the phrase I should’ve bought the Toyota from my father’s customers(he was a lifelong mechanic before retiring) I’d have a second small fortune.

    • @wisenber
      @wisenber 20 днів тому

      @@Bonanzaking That's something you don't hear that often now.

    • @Bonanzaking
      @Bonanzaking 20 днів тому

      @@wisenber I’ve still heard it….mainly from people who buy KIA’s.

    • @wisenber
      @wisenber 20 днів тому

      @@Bonanzaking That would be something considering Kia's 7/100k warranty.

  • @nameblocked
    @nameblocked 24 дні тому +167

    I don't blame Toyota or any of these greedy dealerships. I blame the clowns throwing their money at them.

    • @mikeclark1111
      @mikeclark1111 24 дні тому +8

      Exactly.
      No one makes the consumer buy these vehicle at these prices.

    • @faikerdogan2802
      @faikerdogan2802 23 дні тому +4

      This. If I was a dealer I would do the same. Why wouldn't I sell at a higher price when clowns pay these prices

    • @Xander1Sheridan
      @Xander1Sheridan 23 дні тому

      it's all on the dealers. Toyota can't do anything by law. consumers could easily fix this but they are either greedy or cowards.

    • @AA-vr8ez
      @AA-vr8ez 23 дні тому +1

      No, I blame the greedy dealerships.

    • @faikerdogan2802
      @faikerdogan2802 23 дні тому

      @@AA-vr8ez u know u can get the car at msrp if u order it and can wait for it

  • @phaseboundary5323
    @phaseboundary5323 24 дні тому +59

    Huge dealer markups, engine recalls, cheating on safety tests, sleazy dealers--such a tempting offer!

    • @technom3598
      @technom3598 23 дні тому

      Most dealers arent grtting thr mark ups few engine recalls and the saftey cheat never affected the us

  • @jr6577
    @jr6577 24 дні тому +48

    Dealers are the domestic terrorists of everyone's wallet😂😂😂😂😂

  • @superc1361
    @superc1361 24 дні тому +28

    Don’t buy them make them keep their cars longer. The consumer has the power.

  • @mydian76
    @mydian76 23 дні тому +29

    2021 Tacoma owner here. I prefer buying new and by the looks of it I won't be buying another Toyota

  • @Silver891_
    @Silver891_ 14 днів тому +12

    I was planning to buy a landcruiser this year but overpricing and bad engine quality made me change my desire on buying any new car at these times . Let those overpriced cars rot in their lots.

  • @onestopfunstop317
    @onestopfunstop317 24 дні тому +25

    I wouldn't buy any Toyota anymore.
    They went from the best, most reliable engine/transmission combos in History, to Complete Garbage with Cars that won't last the length of the payments, over night.
    I'd rather have an early 2000s Camry or Avalon than a new Toyota Truck. Their 25yr old used cars will out last their brand new 2025 trucks sitting on their lots today.

    • @schwartzmatthewe
      @schwartzmatthewe 13 годин тому +1

      Pretty much. We can thank the EPA and the current administration for the sudden changes. Someone needs to stand up to the government.

  • @applianceman6009
    @applianceman6009 12 днів тому +14

    Toyota has lost their way. They aren’t offering any US customer what we want. Hybrids have a place, but nobody wants a turbo 4 cylinder over a V6. No buyer asked for that.

    • @hippiebits2071
      @hippiebits2071 9 днів тому +1

      But we all saw it coming unfortunately

    • @beater6967
      @beater6967 5 днів тому +1

      Do they even have a choice with CAFE standards.

    • @hippiebits2071
      @hippiebits2071 5 днів тому

      @@beater6967 Yeah they do given real world mpg on an over worked 4cyl turbo will probably be about be equal to an appropriately sized v6. Turbos don’t save gas if you have to stay on them all the time. 100% same deal with the v6 in the heavier 5th gen. It gets about the same mpg as the v8 does in the 4th gen.
      We can blame them for the standards but their work around a have been less than ideal for consumers.

    • @Thesinfultruth
      @Thesinfultruth День тому

      It a casual…
      All these trucks should be V8 and ur talking about v6s
      They already got ur mind u casual

    • @applianceman6009
      @applianceman6009 День тому

      @@Thesinfultruth I meant V6 in the Tacoma and 4Runner. I wish they’d make a V8 4Runner again. There never was a V8 Tacoma. The Tundra needs the V8 and not the V6 that grenades itself.

  • @grantlarson3387
    @grantlarson3387 24 дні тому +84

    Well, I'm getting a Mazda.

    • @atticstattic
      @atticstattic 24 дні тому +8

      Good choice

    • @ricksays7133
      @ricksays7133 24 дні тому +6

      That's more fun and just as reliable as a Toyota.

    • @StripedTurkey
      @StripedTurkey 23 дні тому +9

      4 years on and I’m still thrilled to get behind the wheel of my MX5!

    • @talisikid1618
      @talisikid1618 23 дні тому +4

      Great choice. One of my friends is in the process of doing just that.

    • @NCrdwlf
      @NCrdwlf 22 дні тому

      My wife and I bought a used cx 5 with 80k on it for our nasty dog car ( we have coon hounds that shed alot) . That thing has 140k on it now and the only maintenance has been gas oil rubber and fluids . It's AWD system is phenomenal.

  • @frankwhite4463
    @frankwhite4463 24 дні тому +55

    one sold today on cars and bids for less than sticker...the demand isn't really there

  • @ScottParisi
    @ScottParisi 21 день тому +10

    My local dealer is doing the same yet they have 107 Tundras and 83 Tacomas sitting on the lot. Good stuff.

    • @Lee-tw8vl
      @Lee-tw8vl 2 дні тому +1

      Give em another month or two. Things will change...

  • @sferg9582
    @sferg9582 23 дні тому +54

    Any dealer that would take the window sticker off is not going to get any of my money.

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful 23 дні тому +5

      Federal law requires that window sticker on all new cars so…

    • @johnathoncastro
      @johnathoncastro 22 дні тому

      ​@@JeepCherokeeful Yet most dealers don't have the sticker on. Just check pictures on any inventory...you can ask for it but most people dont.

    • @SLHJR0390
      @SLHJR0390 День тому +1

      @@johnathoncastroit’s illegal in America

    • @johnathoncastro
      @johnathoncastro День тому +1

      @SLHJR0390 It may be illegal but I see it all the time in my area. Even on the website they don't show the sticker

    • @SLHJR0390
      @SLHJR0390 День тому +1

      @@johnathoncastro report them. Remind the dealer. That’s bs

  • @iddddaduncan
    @iddddaduncan 23 дні тому +29

    Failed to say the engine choices in these new Toyotas all SUCK

    • @michaelkinnear5209
      @michaelkinnear5209 8 днів тому

      Have you driven one to have this kind of statement? We all want to know.

    • @joedaniel3894
      @joedaniel3894 8 днів тому

      They actually don't. I test drove the Land Cruiser and loved it. The responsiveness from the turbo and the torque are similar to my wife's 23 Highlander. Same same, but different. However, they wanted $65k for a base 1958, lol. I bought a 24 Tundra 1794 4x4 out the door at that price instead.

    • @iddddaduncan
      @iddddaduncan 8 днів тому +2

      @@joedaniel3894
      It would have been nice for the amount of money these beautiful cars are to put a turbo V8 in them.

    • @---rg1gb
      @---rg1gb 6 днів тому

      Yes

    • @walawala-fo7ds
      @walawala-fo7ds 5 днів тому

      Why are they selling them? Mark-ups is due to demand

  • @SqueegeeKid.
    @SqueegeeKid. 23 дні тому +14

    That Land Cruiser looks like this 🚙 plain “vehicle” emoji. 😂😂

  • @Singlesix6
    @Singlesix6 24 дні тому +31

    "The Monroney sticker is required to be affixed to the side window or windshield by the manufacturers before shipment of new vehicles to the dealer for sale in the United States and it can only be removed by the consumer (Chapter 28, Sections 1231-1233, Title 15 of the United States Code)." The fine for the dealer taking it off is $1,000.

    • @technom3598
      @technom3598 23 дні тому +1

      Its amended that it only has to be on displah.

    • @shadowhound5113
      @shadowhound5113 23 дні тому +1

      So they add an adjustment fee of $5000

    • @ashlyknapp1798
      @ashlyknapp1798 21 день тому +2

      the fine is $10,000 per car the window sticker must be on the window of the car under federal law

    • @connor_flanigan
      @connor_flanigan 20 днів тому +1

      and? there's no law that says they have to post the window sticker on an internet website.

    • @ashlyknapp1798
      @ashlyknapp1798 20 днів тому +1

      @@connor_flanigan you are absolutely correct but it does give you an insight to the tricky nature of the dealer. That rare brand-new automobile you want is being built at a rate of one every 37 seconds. Best wishes

  • @topofthegreen
    @topofthegreen 23 дні тому +16

    the 4 cylinder turbo is a deal killer for me.

    • @joncarbone
      @joncarbone 3 дні тому

      Yup. That engine belongs in a small sedan.

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 24 дні тому +23

    The most I've paid for a new Toyota is $25K. I asked for pricing for a new Camry and they've sent me offers every month for a year and call me regularly. I'm waiting for an offer under $30K. I've always been a cash buyer at my local dealership so they know that I can just write a check to buy a car. I have 2 old Camrys that run just fine and I'll just keep driving them for now.

    • @BRLaue
      @BRLaue 22 дні тому +5

      You aren’t the customer they want. They want the loan process in-house to make up for the flooring expenses.

    • @movdqa
      @movdqa 22 дні тому +1

      @@BRLaue They probably expect the cash customer to buy much more expensive cars too.

    • @BRLaue
      @BRLaue 22 дні тому +4

      @@movdqa I sometimes pay cash but don’t disclose that until I’ve seen the deal. Same with the trade-in

    • @tonycj7860
      @tonycj7860 17 днів тому +2

      @@BRLaue That's true. They will milk more money out someone who takes a loan out. But if they can still make a quick sale, possibly with add-ons (Warranty, tint, etc.). Why not?

    • @BRLaue
      @BRLaue 17 днів тому +2

      @@tonycj7860 Agreed, that’s why I decide when I see the final deal whether I pay cash, take a loan, work a trade-in into the deal or walk. The last couple of years it has been mostly walk.

  • @billmarshall2536
    @billmarshall2536 22 дні тому +4

    Anyone who pays a markup deserves to get screwed. Just because Toyota puts a sticker on the window doesn't mean you have to pay it. I bought a new Toyota a few months ago. It had a sticker with $2600 in add-ons and a $2500 price markup. I told the salesman I wasn't paying it, nor MSRP, and call me if they wanted to deal, and then I left. He called 30 minutes later, and I drove away paying under MSRP.

  • @davidhouston7812
    @davidhouston7812 24 дні тому +10

    Dealerships are out of their minds. Proper title

  • @BrianPowell-bb1un
    @BrianPowell-bb1un 24 дні тому +29

    I come to watch the super animated hand movements

    • @awesomearizona-dino
      @awesomearizona-dino 23 дні тому +4

      I WONDERED what was disturbing me !!! now i cant watch anymore.

    • @SliderFury1
      @SliderFury1 23 дні тому +3

      I like it 😅

    • @jsd354
      @jsd354 22 дні тому +1

      My wife was born/raised in the Bronx. Her whole family talks with their hands. They also speak loudly and have a funny accent, being from Alabama it was like learning to speak another language. I never get bored watching and listening to. Another thing I realize is they communicate and listen to each other. New Yorkers are good people until they start talking politics!

    • @randalljwarren151
      @randalljwarren151 21 день тому

      Channeling their inner “Scotty Kilmer” (the king of talking with his hands)

  • @MediumBluWonder
    @MediumBluWonder 24 дні тому +50

    This makes 0 sense to me. If they are going to charge Lexus GX prices you may as well go and buy a Lexus GX.
    The dealer near me is selling GXs left and right at MSRP, while the Land Crusiers are just sitting around at the Toyota dealer down the street.

    • @Betamax84
      @Betamax84 23 дні тому +3

      Nailed it

    • @leefritchman9643
      @leefritchman9643 20 днів тому

      The gx is 85k

    • @Betamax84
      @Betamax84 20 днів тому

      @@leefritchman9643 used ones are less

    • @leefritchman9643
      @leefritchman9643 19 днів тому +2

      @@Betamax84 if u wanna compare apples to apples then you compare new to new

    • @TheFirst1278
      @TheFirst1278 15 днів тому

      People are dumb enough to not know they are both Toyotas. Lexus is the biggest psychological scam Toyota successfully deployed over the American consumer.

  • @williamrossetter9430
    @williamrossetter9430 22 дні тому +3

    Toyota has hubris, and given the transmission problems of the new Tacomas and the engine problems of the Tundra, most of us will go elsewhere when we find out the above MSRP at the Toyota dealers. Who is in charge of customer strategy at TMCC?

  • @jr6577
    @jr6577 24 дні тому +17

    Dealers are as bad as Hamas!😂😂😂😂

    • @AP-lh1bq
      @AP-lh1bq 5 днів тому

      Not someone who has friends and family there I see.

  • @madwarrior84
    @madwarrior84 24 дні тому +9

    We the consumers have a say in this market with our wallets, hold firm…

  • @dahveed284
    @dahveed284 23 дні тому +3

    Prices are way up and quality seems to be down with the Tundra motor failures. Not a good combination.

  • @Craig-ml8nw
    @Craig-ml8nw День тому +1

    I was in the market for a new one, but stopped. I had a dealer tell me I needed to buy now 4 months ago because prices were going up. I told her "that's the wrong way, I'll talk you when you guys are hurting." In this economy, These dealers not willing to offer a discount are out of their minds. Just wait 6 months, the country is heading for a major fall.

  • @cyronader
    @cyronader 23 дні тому +3

    80k for a 4 cylinder car.....yikes

  • @ciuvic1984
    @ciuvic1984 20 днів тому +3

    All my local toyta dealers are charging at least 4k over the MSRP, and their sales are low . They are calling all customers in the base to buy a new vehicle

  • @trumpeldorf
    @trumpeldorf 22 дні тому +5

    It’s easy to cry about a high price, but for some reason no one wants to stop buying at this price ))
    I'm not even talking about those who take out loans to buy a car that is beyond their financial capabilities.

  • @Jay-bw3fl
    @Jay-bw3fl 17 днів тому +4

    Just find the VOLUME dealer closest to you. There is always a volume dealer in every market who doesn’t charge mark ups. Ours in nashville is Beaman Toyota. You may have to get on a wait list for an allocation but they won’t charge a mark up.

  • @mk3driftmotion
    @mk3driftmotion 23 дні тому +4

    To get around "market adjustment" they are doing things like adding $1000 windshield protection, $1500 Lojack, $1500 paint protection, and $3000 extended warranty.

    • @tukos7370
      @tukos7370 8 днів тому +1

      I got charged $700 for nitrofilled tires once. Gtfo

  • @signkutter9218
    @signkutter9218 20 днів тому +2

    beginning of the year , i tried to buy a prius. As I was getting ready to leave n the 2 hour trip to pick up the car. i called to put a $500 dollar deposit on an agreed on price. The sales guy told me he couldn't take a deposit because the car was going to be up for auction and the only way they would sell the car was with a $8k markup

  • @stevejones7574
    @stevejones7574 24 дні тому +5

    Toyota has been screwing customers so badly, they've managed to screw themselves. Used to be a Toyota fan; no more.

    • @HiPlains1
      @HiPlains1 23 дні тому +1

      I've heard this so much on posts. Heard many Yota fans even switching to other brands. The new CEO is very toxic to Toyota's reputation.

  • @av5504
    @av5504 24 дні тому +6

    Bought a 2024 Camry a few months ago below msrp. Not all dealerships have markups, you just might have to go outside your town to find a deal.

    • @croaker4747
      @croaker4747 23 дні тому +1

      That’s because the demand for sedans is low.

  • @chrisbullard5901
    @chrisbullard5901 10 днів тому +1

    The problem isn’t the manufacturers or the dealerships. This is a US Federal Reserve monetary policy problem.
    The Fed has driven the value of the dollar so far into the ground, a car, a house, and raising a family is near impossible for someone who isn’t making six figures and got a head start making all the right decisions 10-15 years ago.

  • @ChrisACiufo
    @ChrisACiufo 23 дні тому +3

    Since most people’s income isn’t going up 20% per year like Toyota’s MSRPs, they will price themselves out of their market. Stop buying!
    BTW, this happened with previous gen Land Cruiser and this new one WAS SUPPOSED to be much cheaper to get customers back. But with dealer Mark ups and these high option packages, the “lower” price point seems to be fake.

  • @benhu509
    @benhu509 24 дні тому +6

    Fellas! Stop being a Toyota simp!

  • @mynock250
    @mynock250 24 дні тому +4

    On the Toyota USA website ALL land cruisers in the north east are 10k listed above MSRP.

  • @jordez1
    @jordez1 24 дні тому +7

    Here in west Houston dealerships Lexus are charging close to 5 thousand on new NXs models. I’m just going to wait a little longer.

    • @sachinnair91
      @sachinnair91 24 дні тому +2

      Charging even more in DFW. I should come down to Houston. New Corollas are definitely cheaper in Houston than DFW!

  • @joepup8348
    @joepup8348 18 днів тому +2

    Customers were begging Toyota to keep that V8 even before the problems with the new engines. So Toyota took a page from the 'Don't give your customers what they want" and ditched their legendary powertrain, what made the Land Cruiser and other trucks so reliable and powerful. I don't know who advises them but they should start listening to the people who buy their cars...or did.

  • @user-sw8vb2qo8y
    @user-sw8vb2qo8y 23 дні тому +3

    Land Cruiser 2025: 2.4L 4 Cylinder Hybrid
    Someone really buying it?

  • @hp-fx9pv
    @hp-fx9pv 23 дні тому +5

    This will be the easiest car buying process for me. If 6th gen 4Runner is insanely priced, I’ll buy something else.

    • @HiPlains1
      @HiPlains1 23 дні тому +2

      It will be since its based of the same TNGA body on frame as the Tacoma. So expect the same price hikes as the 2024 taco except more. 60K for base SR5's if your lucky. TRD pro's will probably start at 70K plus. They are not going to build this in Japan with the same 2.4 turbo hybrid system and charge less then the taco. Its going to have insane pricing. Just like all their new TNGA body on frames are. They did it with the Tundra, then with the taco, the LC and next the 4 runner.

    • @technom3598
      @technom3598 23 дні тому

      Lol. You coulsnt be more wring. 4runners will be under land cruiser pricing. NOT ABOVE. LOL where do you idiots come up with this shit ​@@HiPlains1

    • @HiPlains1
      @HiPlains1 15 днів тому

      @islandhopper100 Read again what I said carefully "They are not going to build this in Japan with the same 2.4 turbo hybrid system and charge less then the taco." Not the best sentence structure but I did say they won't build the same platform truck for less money then the Taco which is made in Mexico. And yes I know they made the 4 runner along with the GX, landcrusier etc.. As they have done for decades. See what you did? You took the first part "they are not going to build this in Japan" and responded without reading the rest. If you were alert enough you would have seen my point that making TNGA platform trucks in Japan cost allot more then using slave labor in Mexico. No way a Japanese made truck is going to cost less then a Mexican made body on frame. I'm not fact checked because I already know these will come from the Tahara plant along with just about everybody else that knows anything about toyota.

  • @geovannib7791
    @geovannib7791 5 днів тому +1

    They tried charging my mom $700 just for black Toyota badges 😭

  • @alwaysiyi272
    @alwaysiyi272 23 дні тому +9

    I’ve never understood people blaming Toyota or the car dealerships for markups. If buyers didn’t pay the markups then there would be no markups. At the end of the day a car company is a business and they here to make money, and if they can make that extra money from consumers, they will. If we as customers stopped paying the markups then there will be no markups

  • @mythicalmountancentralasia6183
    @mythicalmountancentralasia6183 18 днів тому +2

    For a 4 cylinder, they can keep them all.

  • @jimoverschmidt8169
    @jimoverschmidt8169 24 дні тому +1

    Excellent info. Thank you!!

  • @MasonSwick-qx3jb
    @MasonSwick-qx3jb 21 день тому +3

    Shame on Toyota 😡

  • @chuckm8472
    @chuckm8472 24 дні тому +4

    You can keep it ! Probably will be a nightmare in warrenty claims.

  • @kenimiller3896
    @kenimiller3896 22 дні тому +2

    LOL.....I was confused for a while watching the video. I kept thinking you were saying 'Toyota Foreigner'....and I'm going, is that a new model?

  • @eee2115
    @eee2115 24 дні тому +5

    Toyota and Honda have some of the lowest inventories out there. There is no excuse anymore. Why are other manufactures able to produce more cars? I would pass on both and get a Mazda....this from a Honda/Toyota fanboy. Vote with your $.

    • @sachinnair91
      @sachinnair91 24 дні тому

      Toyota is purposely keeping inventory down. That's why Corollas are in such low supply, lower supply of Corollas than Civics

  • @user-fx8bq1rk7c
    @user-fx8bq1rk7c 18 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing 👍 what was the name of your video you had a guest that did get around and Turo ?

  • @davidrandall2742
    @davidrandall2742 22 дні тому +2

    They're called stealerships for a reason.

  • @Autotad
    @Autotad 23 дні тому +1

    The dealer markup in the Bay Area is like $10-15k. Dealership in Colorado doesn’t charge mark up. I could fly out there and enjoy a road trip home and save money.

  • @watchchimp3102
    @watchchimp3102 23 дні тому +2

    Both the new 4Runner and Land Cruiser are striking in appearance.
    BUT, while a lot of casual consumers may buy both; they are, in essence, enthusiast vehicles.
    That being the case, enthusiasts are showing resistance to the new turbo or hybrid drive trains. They might be fine enough for the soccer moms, but do they have the long-term reliability that hard-core Toyota buyers value?
    It's still early, but initial impressions of the Tundra have been less than spectacular.
    It's quite possible Toyota has shot themselves in the foot. 😢

  • @danielrogers4072
    @danielrogers4072 22 дні тому +2

    Buy used, buying new is unrealistic for most people at current new prices.

  • @santarosa6676
    @santarosa6676 21 день тому +1

    I was on waiting list for Land Cruiser, got offered one, and finally took for a test drive. After taking a look at the small back space AND seeing a $5000+k markup,
    I dropped the idea of buying. Math just didn’t make sense. It is a wonderful vehicle, but way overpriced. Now looking seriously at RAV4. Can get slightly below MRSP with no markup. Mudbuster will have to wait.

  • @punchcat0736
    @punchcat0736 21 день тому +2

    Youd be a fool to buy a landcruiser now . The dealers are screwing people

  • @computerweenie
    @computerweenie 21 день тому

    Shop around since it's easy to do so online. The dealer in my town charges MSRP + adjusted market value. Forty miles away the dealer sells at MSRP and below on some vehicles. The owner does not allow markups. I went through this with VW years ago when I purchased a new Beatle convertible when they first came out at a dealer 300 miles away. Sure it took me almost the entire day to drive up with a friend of mine and back but I saved the $5000 adjusted price that the dealers in MD DC and VA were asking.

  • @robertogarcia2651
    @robertogarcia2651 23 дні тому +1

    The Toyota dealer in my area has 2 of the first edition Land Cruisers going for 91k. Outrageous.

  • @lostjr
    @lostjr День тому

    In N. California, local dealer shows "dealer adjustment" of $4995 right on the website for Land Cruiser. Some sort of "adjustment" is added to nearly all models, especially hybrids. Sienna is $2995. Cross hybrid is $1995. Can't tell about Camrys. One in transit, others "in production." Supply is limited across the board. No one explains that.

  • @rfitzpatrickCO
    @rfitzpatrickCO 23 дні тому +2

    Toyota keeps charging more and more for an inferior product. Their board is pushing them in the wrong direction instead of just letting Toyota do what it does best. For example, we should have never gotten this Land Cruiser in the U.S. It’s a shame that they went this direction instead of bringing out a real contender to the Jeep and Bronco.

  • @blackgold754
    @blackgold754 24 дні тому +3

    That’s why I’m considering Hyundai. Sure camriesbare affordable but hard to get features that you want like HUD and 360 cam and they’re expensive without any of these features. At least Hyundai has these features as standard

  • @FloridaFrank2010
    @FloridaFrank2010 24 дні тому +8

    Toyota needs to go direct to consumer, as all manufactures need to offer now.

  • @awayracketeer6918
    @awayracketeer6918 23 дні тому +2

    Once it starts going higher than $70,000+ you’re better off getting a Lexus GX550, or for this price range, go even further and get the previous Gen 200-series Land Cruiser (J200) that was discontinued in 2021. It has the same 5.7 liter V8 engine as the previous gen Tundra and Sequoia which were proven to be reliable, and were sold for 13 years from 2008 to 2021. You could even find one from 2008 in the $20,000s, or for around the $70,000 that this new Land Cruiser (J250) is selling for, get a much newer J200 LC from 2016 and up (after its facelift and upgrades in 2016) and get a much better vehicle with a proven reliable power train for 13 years.
    To go even further, you could also get a Lexus GX460 (a Land Cruiser Prado) for around the same price or less, but still has a 4.6 liter V8 in it that’s been proven to be reliable for 14 years (2009-2023), and probably find newer ones in the $50,000-$60,000 range.
    As a side note, it’s important to realize this isn’t really a full-size Land Cruiser, but an LC Prado, which is what it actually is even though it’s not in the name. Last full size Land Cruiser was the previously mentioned J200 in the US, which stopped being sold in 2021. They did release the 300-series Land Cruiser (J300) overseas in the Middle East, Australia, Europe, Philippines, and other parts of the world but we did not get it in the US (possibly due to slow sales). The closest thing we got to the J300 in the US was the Lexus LX600 and currently it shares the same twin-turbo V6 engine as the current 3rd gen Tundras and Sequoias. I got to ride in an LC200 and LC300 on the sand dunes in the desert in Qatar on my way home from Asia and I absolutely loved them. It’s a sad thing we didn’t get a J300 in the US in Toyota form, but at least we got the LX600 which is the same platform. Anyways, don’t be fooled by this new Land Cruiser. Overseas where they sell the J300, this new J250 is being offered and sold as a Land Cruiser Prado (basically a smaller LC for city driving but still off-road capable and rugged), but here in the US since we don’t have the full size LC300, they’re just calling this new one a “Land Cruiser”, which in my opinion is misleading and easy to see considering the Lexus GX’s have always been modeled after the Prado, and one might think this new J250 is going to be more “affordable” compared to the previous J200 and new J300 overseas, when in reality both the LC250 and GX550 are just Prado’s without actually having it in the name.
    In my opinion, save your money and don’t buy these newer vehicles. Guarantee you there will be price clashes with the new 4Runner, Tacoma, and this new LC250 in the lineup. Dealerships are too greedy and want too much money for them, as seen with even the outgoing generations of 4Runners and Tacomas. $50k-$60k is unreasonable for a midsize truck or SUV, and even more for the TRD versions. They need to pull their heads out of the sand and see reality. If people didn’t support their shenanigans by buying these vehicles at their prices with the absurd markups and add-ons, we’d actually have a chance against dealerships and manufacturers. Or better yet, but a more affordable used vehicle of one of the previous generations and save your money for something else or a rainy day. No need to buy these new vehicles right away. Let Toyota work out the bugs and kinks and see if any discounts and incentives come along once dealers realize nobody wants to pay their absurd prices.

    • @gregorypenetrante1272
      @gregorypenetrante1272 22 дні тому +1

      This is the most lucid comment of this video so far! Thank you, brutha!

  • @regkarn1
    @regkarn1 20 днів тому +1

    I don't like any car enough to pay dealer markup or dumb fees.

  • @K42023
    @K42023 15 днів тому +5

    A dealership tried sell me a first edition for $97,000.00. I told them to FK OFF.

    • @---rg1gb
      @---rg1gb 6 днів тому

      Well done

    • @JohnWilliams-nr3vi
      @JohnWilliams-nr3vi 5 днів тому

      Just wait until you get the quotes for a Land Rover, Mercedes (any SUV) and the new VW Touareg…not sure what alternative you expect to get for cheap.
      Basically sheep mentality, it’s cool now to hate on Toyota whereas a rational person knows that the car market in general is currently overpriced.

  • @dylanroberts93
    @dylanroberts93 23 дні тому

    I work for a company who makes the gas struts that go on hoods and hatch doors. We are not working good at all!! ALL!!! OT has been cut since May. We have all the big companies. FORD,GM Chrysler, Tesla, Toyota, Honda

  • @Connie_Lingus
    @Connie_Lingus 22 дні тому

    Found a used Land Cruiser FE that’s being sold at a non-Toyota dealership for nearly 90k, while brand new ones hover around the high 70’s. It’s ridiculous.

  • @richardmiller3146
    @richardmiller3146 15 днів тому +1

    Part of the problem is that the last several years that Land Cruisers were available here in the USA they sold for $80,000-$90,000+ (LC's were sold loaded so this price variance is based on year not model level). So people that previously couldn't afford one are now excited to be able to get one for $55,000 - $77,000, depending on model because the price is a "bargain" compared to years past.
    So many people are asking who would pay that much for a Toyota! I bought my 2013 LC in December of 2014. It was used with 6,000 miles, and I paid $62,000 (10 years ago!). I still have that LC and could sell it today for $35k+. This is why people by Land Cruisers. Legendary off-road capability and huge retention of value.

  • @akui88
    @akui88 22 дні тому

    my local dealer has 9,500+ in "dealer add-ons", and they are sold even before they get to the dealer...
    even on 2024 4 runners...

  • @Reginald_Harrison
    @Reginald_Harrison 23 дні тому +1

    If they’re not blatantly adding dealer mark-ups (and they are) they’re adding all the junk options that nobody wants. $70 for some 3ft USB cables is one of strangest. Who doesn’t have a bunch of extra USB cables laying around the house?
    A dealership near me is adding on key fob insurance for $1,495 😂. I’ve never lost a car key in my life. Even if you did, most cars come with a spare anyways.

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 23 дні тому

    My local Toyota dealer does this crap, too. They're selling the new Camry for $10k over MSRP.

  • @KrzyAZ
    @KrzyAZ День тому

    Southeast Toyota Distributors (SET) is the guilty party here. A lot of areas are actually showing discounts on some vehicles. If you're in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina - you're going to be screwed for a while.

  • @etuitivemillionaire
    @etuitivemillionaire 24 дні тому +3

    Let that turbo sit on the lot 🙄. Nobody is rushing to buy them

  • @dave3657
    @dave3657 23 дні тому +1

    If a dealer isn’t transparent with their price, then I’m not giving them my money.

  • @kaizhu8337
    @kaizhu8337 22 дні тому +1

    MSRP sticker must be displayed on every new car.

  • @xbulo5327
    @xbulo5327 14 днів тому +1

    I would understand if they were $55k+ with a super reliable v8 engine that would last over 300k miles. These land cruisers have a 4 cylinder turbo engine that will be over stressed and probably not last 150k miles. No way in hell I'm ever buying one.

  • @peterdoan2437
    @peterdoan2437 23 дні тому +2

    Fook Toyota not buying that brand again wanted to charge me $77k for a sienna 🤦‍♂️

  • @user-zs1fr7im6l
    @user-zs1fr7im6l 23 дні тому +2

    Toyota is out of Their Mind Aubrey Janik - and the Tacoma and Tundra ECT people bought for quality and now the reliability is gone ! People didn't buy Toyota's for looks being fast more comfortable - they bought them because they last ! They lost their customer !

  • @AeroShock500kllibfhd
    @AeroShock500kllibfhd 23 дні тому

    They’re charging an astronomical price tag for new land cruisers in central California. A sales manager at Toyota said they sold 1st edition with a $17k mark up! I ended up buying the 2024 4Runner instead just because I was able to get it a little bit lower than MSRP. They were more transparent about the price of the 4Runner and the sticker price.

  • @apa7611
    @apa7611 11 днів тому

    In my area the dealership are charging 59,000 for a used 2023 trd pro and 65,000 plus for a 2024 trd off-road I force one!
    Shits out of control

  • @BaaSicStuff
    @BaaSicStuff 6 днів тому

    New cars have always been a lot, why anyone under 35 is looking at new is beyond me lol. Funny how those that have just started in life feel they deserve a NEW car. Kids are poor these days cause they literally drive what I a man in my 50s worked my entire life for and could afford. I think new cars are priced very well

  • @realdj3bka40
    @realdj3bka40 10 днів тому +1

    $60-$70k for a suv with cloth seats is crazy!

  • @ArthropodSpidey
    @ArthropodSpidey 23 дні тому +3

    Have they gotten their unreliable twin turbo junk fixed yet?

  • @hillcountrycrops1260
    @hillcountrycrops1260 18 днів тому +1

    This is the last video I'm watching on Toyota for a while. I'm getting new shocks tomorrow and taking my tundra to 350,000 miles.

  • @alexfigueroa7035
    @alexfigueroa7035 22 дні тому

    I just saw an facebook ad of a dealer asking $120K for that same model Land Cruiser! I am in PR!

  • @monkeymule1286
    @monkeymule1286 15 днів тому +2

    At these prices, is it worth it to rebuild an old FJ45?

  • @bradboyd883
    @bradboyd883 21 день тому

    The first Land Cruiser you showed has the VIN listed, so you can look up the window sticker.

  • @bonusb2924
    @bonusb2924 22 дні тому +1

    They think their chit don’t stink…

  • @Pdxcb
    @Pdxcb 6 днів тому

    Gosh that’s not even bad a local dealership Gresham Toyota in Oregon is literally selling a “used” Land Cruiser for 97k and the cheaper edition one for 74k “used” you should check that dealership out

  • @joegrahe3958
    @joegrahe3958 20 днів тому

    2015 4runner owner here, 200k+ miles. Unfortunately when it comes time to replace I don't see myself getting the 6th gen and its lawnmower engine. I may look for a used LX570 or Land Cruiser V8 instead

  • @DohertyT2319
    @DohertyT2319 24 дні тому +2

    A hybrid drive in a land cruiser is not practical