Damn, Mystra gives off such toxic, controlling ex vibes! I'm currently playing as Gale - and hell no, I won't be simping for a pompous goddess. Shadowheart is currently the subject of my worship)
@Eddison33 Please answer my question, you said that you played Gale as the main character and started a romantic relationship with Shadowheart, tell me, at the end of the game you had the last scene with her where you discussed your future together after you said goodbye to Mystra???
@@MasterRaven0707 Yes, it is. All the romances conclusions are viable when you don't go for Mystra. A spoiler alert about the relationship with Mystra! ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . If your Gale becomes an illithid as one of the late-game decisions, it changes the romance epilogue! Regardless of your romance option, Mystra can offer the Gale illithid to come to her domain (thus recovering his soul and preventing him from becoming a complete mindflayer), which nullifies your romance epilogues.
When the romance with Minthara is finally fixed, I will most likely play as Gale in my second playthrough, I just have to wait for this incredible and beautiful drow to be fixed and for my Gale, she will become a much better goddess than Mystra could ever become to him.
it's fixed, but I guess some hope for more? like re-introducing content that was cut (though Larian said most of that content will remain cut as things were removed not due to time constraints but because it simply didn't fit the game they wanted to make) @@Xeaze1992
She is a goddess that he had a thing with, I am sure it was never or could never be on equal terms; so yeah he should be with someone lower, but that's his fault no? his hunger for power and ambition - Mystra wasn't enough for him, nothing was, but Gale can grow in a playthrough if keep talking down his hunger.
The "patience, gale," hit me right in the personal trauma. I am going to write a campaign where Mystra gets dethroned as the goddess of magic, I'm gonna get hired by WotC and I'm gonna make it cannon.
Perhaps this is due to me never been in a relationship before (and often missing social cues), but would you mind explaining what is exactly wrong with the "patience, gale". I'm genuinely curious. But it's completely okay if you don't want to! I don't want to trigger any personal trauma. Thanks
@@kozhcaelum8495 Can’t speak for them, but basically she’s stringing him along. On that route, where Gale is desperate to get back what he had with Mystra, she’s eager to immediately reap the fruits of Gale’s labor, but put off acknowledging Gale’s attempts to rekindle. She no longer wants a lover in him, but clearly he’s proven himself useful, so there’s no need to reject his advances. She can keep doing that until he’s as old as Elminster, and Gale’s guilt at their first relationship will keep him desperately trying to please her.
"Patience, Gale." Exactly what god-Gale says to Tav if she asks him to take her to the heavens to become a god, after refusing his offer the first time and he ghosts them for months on end. Yet people think god-Gale is a good ending.
I mean in comparison to everyone else's endings the god ending for him is more neutral than bad in comparison to the other characters. Because he does lose himself a bit but he's not a monster.
This answers my question about whether to do a play through with his origin character, because if these are the options for the “good” ending, he’ll never see it. I was so scared taking him to Mystra! I talked him into apologizing to her, even though I though for sure he was going to dump me and go back to her which would’ve broken my heart, I didn’t care as long as it kept him alive 😭 Fortunately they made up and she agreed to cure him but he stayed with me, we are now planning our wedding, so the bitch can fight me for him if she comes sniffing around again! 👊🏻😂
I mean, you don't have to ask her to take you back? Literally one of the options is just him wishing for closure and to redeem himself but go off i guess
Yeah, Gale becomes a god, but with a significantly smaller G than Mystra. She is a Greater Deity (one of the Greatest probably the greatest - bellow Lord Ao) Gale -with Karsus powers, is not. @@WitcherLover-pd9ye
To those of you who argue that Karsus never had his own magic, you clearly don't know much about the guy. According to the Forgotten Realms novel "Dangerous Games", the second book in the Netheril Trilogy, he was doing tons of research into a new kind of magic he created that he called "Heavy Magic", a form of magic he discovered and modified that he wanted the Netherese Empire to use as a sort of "bioweapon" against the phaerimm. The Crown of Karsus is infused with "Super Heavy Magic".
You do know high magic, heavy magic, arcane magic, and originally shadow magic all utilized the weave right? Shadow magic only really became its own thing when Mystra ripped the weave in half. Originally it was all either magic from the weave or a divine source.
Heavy magic's definition of "utilizing the weave" is feeding off of the Weave, high magic doesn't do that, as it originated from the elves from the island Evermeet.
@@LightStreak567 you need to read the Netheril series which is canonical and all were written and printed (the last book published a year after) before TSR was bought by WOKE on the Coke. Karsus experimented and devised new ways to use magic. He neither possessed the weave, nor one of his own. Mystra to thwart his attempt to take control of the weave ripped it in half.
@@mikewaterfield3599 WAY ahead of you buddy, I've had the audiobook versions since 2019. Plus, I never said he possessed the Weave. You're talking to a guy who has been collecting Forgotten Realms D&D sourcebooks, novels/audiobooks, comic books/digital comics and games since playing Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition back in 2012. So I'll forgive you for thinking I'm ignorant of the lore outside the Baldur's Gate games.
@@LightStreak567 its good to hear, but aging myself horribly. Im old enough to remember our group catching the “satanic panic”. Its why I really don’t like WOKE on the Coke. Having lived through the conservative crap and now the liberal version….. the conservatives were easier to shake off. Generally the only lore WotC has added was the spell plague and another pseudo death of “not mystra”. Who actually likes forth ed and all that crap anyway? Hell 95% percent of the lore and novels were written well before the buy out and certainly all the best novels were written in the early days.
@@krose6451 He gets his soul back, becomes her chosen with a place in the planes and she's more enthusiastic to make him her lover again. I guess because becoming a mindflayer is a huge sacrifice on top of righting wrongs?
Honestly it is a great end.Emperor does not get to enslave humanity.Tav is not squid.Gale can return to human.Win-win.Not the best win ofc but win is win.@@selty
problem with this dialog, first Karsus never had a weave of his own. He tried and failed to take the weave himself. Secondly, Cyric is the god of ambition. Third, Mystras "chosen" are many, Especially compared to other deities. Lastly, Mystra forbids nothing.
@mcdoogle_robotman most are not like that at all. Although Elminster…….. hell there are the seven sisters. “THE BLACK STAFF” (who BTW is probably still alive canonically) even a Drow who double dips with the dark dancer.
@@JonBondgsr yeah….. karsus attempted to take control of the weave “THE WEAVE” not his weave. back when all non divine magic was under one weave. After the fall of Netheril Mystra ripped the weave in two. Shar would not truly control the shadow weave until after the time of troubles when she tried to assassinate mystra and take the weave. This gave us the spell plague and second sundering. The lesson here? STOP SCREWING WITH MYSTRA! or first Mystryl, Mystra, then Arial Manx aka Midnight aka mystra 2.0.
@@JonBondgsras I understand, every god of magic has own weave, which collapses when they die. Karsus was a god for just a few moments, so his weave was nascent.
why does everyone hate her so? I don't mean to defend her but she is a godess, I mean of course she has her agenda, it is her role and duty and probably isn't allowed to (or maybe even can't) give herself to 'true' unconditional love. Gale should have learned that by now. Her role is to defend the weave and Gale is a persistent threat to the balance of it.
I am very late to the party, something to remember about her. She is somewhat omnipotent and omnipresent, because the weave is everywhere it's in her wheelhouse, I'm not the biggest lore guy for d&d but from my understanding their is conflicting reports on the fact that she may or may not have the knowledge and memories of the previous god of magic, *(because if that's the case it gets really murky because there's three different gods including this one who used to be midnight. So you have the one that died who was the original one and then you have the beautiful peasant girl who gave midnight her power but being somewhat omnipotent and able to impose your feeling on to the weave is a little weird for people)* and if you go with that assumption it does make her relationship with Gale really bad because then you have a millennia old goddess manipulating him knowing what's going to happen and not telling him anything also grooming him from the day he could feel magic, (if you don't go with that assumption she isn't a very old goddess she was 26 when she ascended she pretty much had like 29-28 years of being a God then some what died and then was resurrected in a way more like restored and has only been operating for 5 to 7 years before bg3) And if you're just going off of the game depending on your dialog options she can get needlessly aggressive with you, to the point that most people would just try to spite her because for a god that should know pretty much everything that's going on she acts very moody and childish. (It's fitting for the demographic of people that typically worship her being wizards high and mighty childish people who have too much belief in themselves. But it's a little too close to being a Greek god for most people) And also on the first point and last point. To my knowledge there is no restriction on love, and when he becomes a God there is no danger to the weave. His explanation of it is you're quite clear it is something else entirely and it is the source of his power not connected to the regular weave.
He can. This video is incorrect, in case of middle option Mystra goes salty, but does not attack. She kills him only when he challenges her for her position.
This is a second Mystra. She didn't aspire to be a God really. As a mortal she was a witch named Midnight, devoted only to the study of the Weave and was worshiping the old Mystra, pursuing every scrap of magic she could. Once old Mystra got killed, Midnight got chosen by Ao to replace her and ascended. To avoid confusion, she took the name of the old god of magic, Mystra number two you can say lol.
@@Zaxares If I understand correctly, Midnight and Kelemvor were lovers as mortals, but their relationship broke off when they both ascended, and took the duties of their portfolios.
@@masterjoda999 To be fair, that's all of wizards lol, since Mystra is the Weave, they have to worship her, because she has a hold on their soul. Interestingly, a lot of wizards fall in love with their Goddess, because of the effects the Weave produces - nurturing, almost maternal and protective. And that is shown in Act 1 scene with Gale. A lot of people interpret it as Gale hitting on Tav, but it's far from the truth - all the feelings that narrator talks about - warm feeling of a kind word and touch, scent of rosewater, anticipation of the kiss, being nestled in Mystra cup - they are all produced by the Weave, and by extension by Mystra herself (since she is the Weave). It is almost narcotic, and it's why when the Weave vanishes the night suddenly feels cold and lonesome, almost like an addiction. The relationship between Mystra and the Wizards in general is quite co-dependand and messed up. Add it to the fact that she often takes her most skilled wizards, chosen as lovers... As Khelben, another chosen of Mystra said: "There’s a reason why most old mages are obsessed or insane." It is quite sad really.
I'm confused. Did Mystra kill you when you chose God of Ambition? Gale survives making that choice when he's a companion, and in this video it seems like Mystra basically mocked the domain and then warned you not to strive for more - but then killed you?
I am very late to the party, something to remember about her. She is somewhat omnipotent and omnipresent, because the weave is everywhere it's in her wheelhouse, I'm not the biggest lore guy for d&d but from my understanding their is conflicting reports on the fact that she may or may not have the knowledge and memories of the previous god of magic, and if you go with that assumption it does make her relationship with Gale really bad because then you have a millennia old goddess manipulating him knowing what's going to happen and not telling him anything also grooming him from the day he could feel magic, And if you're just going off of the game depending on your dialog options she can get needlessly aggressive with you, to the point that most people would just try to spite her because for a god that should know pretty much everything that's going on she acts very moody and childish. (It's fitting for the demographic of people that typically worship her being wizards high and mighty childish people who have too much belief in themselves. But it's a little too close to being a Greek god for most people)
I did a little bit of researching because I wanted to see. The midnight interaction of the goddess of magic isn't even like 60 years old, she is pretty much omnipotent and omnipresent. And I've seen debate on if she has the memories of the previous two gods of magic or at the very least their knowledge. With that in mind she is either still awful or much better, Because you have two avenues of thinking about her it's either even if she's like 50 something she is omnipotent and omnipresent because of the nature of her power so that doesn't really compute, or because she was pretty much in a coma for most of her time as a god she didn't even get 30 years in before she was knocked out, and she's only been back for like 7 she's pretty much still a mortal (I would go with the first option because you see how Gale turns out when he becomes a God and she has a much stronger domain. And her domain literally causes her to know everything as long as she isn't tuning it out)
I find it odd that mystra's outfit is literally copy paste of the outfit that nobles in BG3 wear lol when I saw the same outfit copy pasted I had a double take
It annoys me so much that even when you don't want to overthrow her she stills kills you... It's my power fantasy to reach godhood why don't they let me...
Hello. I had an affair with Gale and I don't know why that scene didn't appear to me in the end, and Gale didn't want to stay with me either. He went to look for the crown of Karsus when we already had a relationship. Can someone explain to me?
This scene appears only if you play as Gale origin. About him not staying with you -- I just got the same ending. I don't really know why that happened, but I suspect it's because I've been supporting his desire to obtain the crown throughout entire playthrough. In my previous playthrough, when we were just friends, I was constantly questioning his desire, and he agreed to deliver the crown to Mystra in the end.
To be fair Gale only eats like 3 items and weirdly stops asking for more after that lol. Don't worry, the first couple items in the game are not that good and Gale is surprisingly strong & useful as a wizard.
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After all Mystra's done, I'd have given her the Crown and make a wish. To never see her again.
Then a new Spellplague will start because of you.
Wise choice. Applause 😂
Ooooh boy, you havent learnes
@nobodynothing282 that sounds straight out of 40k lol
Or make a wish to become the next Mystra, killing Midnight in the process.
I love that Mystra is so condescending. Just like a Wizard. She is truly the goddess of magic.
She was once a human wizard named Midnight, so it checks out.
Damn, Mystra gives off such toxic, controlling ex vibes! I'm currently playing as Gale - and hell no, I won't be simping for a pompous goddess. Shadowheart is currently the subject of my worship)
Lol, im playing shadowheart and gale rejected me, probably having lae zel and karlach already made me a slut in his eyes 😂
She's literally a groomer
@@DoffyDogg Yes, I also found out one cannot have all of them. At the end of Act 2, I was forced to decide.
@Eddison33 Please answer my question, you said that you played Gale as the main character and started a romantic relationship with Shadowheart, tell me, at the end of the game you had the last scene with her where you discussed your future together after you said goodbye to Mystra???
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If your Gale becomes an illithid as one of the late-game decisions, it changes the romance epilogue! Regardless of your romance option, Mystra can offer the Gale illithid to come to her domain (thus recovering his soul and preventing him from becoming a complete mindflayer), which nullifies your romance epilogues.
I really wish we had the option to sass Mystra as a Tav who romances Gale. I would’ve thrown hands
Legit. I romanced Gale as Tav and got sick of him simping for Mystra. F’ck that hoe lol
My Tav who's a Sorceress/Fighter, wants to rip off Mystras head.
My bard Tav who even doesn't romance Gale would have gladly used their forked tongue to erase this smug grin from Mystra's face for good
@@pallas_katerBards source their power from Mystra.
@@Asgaardiangatekeeper all magic comes from Mystra.
Why does Mystra facial design look like a Sims 3 character 😭
Think you need your eyes checking. Sounds like you got the eye cancer
It's the purple weave effect that makes her look kinda basic. Her actual face model is really gorgeous and high def, you can google it.
Wow.. All that time simping for Mystra was for nothing. Poor Gale
When the romance with Minthara is finally fixed, I will most likely play as Gale in my second playthrough, I just have to wait for this incredible and beautiful drow to be fixed and for my Gale, she will become a much better goddess than Mystra could ever become to him.
Is she not fixed already? Thought the last hotfix did that by recovering all her lines. I’m wanting to make sure myself before I start a run for her
it's fixed, but I guess some hope for more? like re-introducing content that was cut (though Larian said most of that content will remain cut as things were removed not due to time constraints but because it simply didn't fit the game they wanted to make) @@Xeaze1992
She is a goddess that he had a thing with, I am sure it was never or could never be on equal terms; so yeah he should be with someone lower, but that's his fault no? his hunger for power and ambition - Mystra wasn't enough for him, nothing was, but Gale can grow in a playthrough if keep talking down his hunger.
@@Xeaze1992 "All her lines" not really. It sure didn't fix her romance fully that's for sure.
@@chuckn4851 damn, I had my hopes up =[
The "patience, gale," hit me right in the personal trauma. I am going to write a campaign where Mystra gets dethroned as the goddess of magic, I'm gonna get hired by WotC and I'm gonna make it cannon.
Perhaps this is due to me never been in a relationship before (and often missing social cues), but would you mind explaining what is exactly wrong with the "patience, gale". I'm genuinely curious. But it's completely okay if you don't want to! I don't want to trigger any personal trauma. Thanks
@@kozhcaelum8495 Can’t speak for them, but basically she’s stringing him along. On that route, where Gale is desperate to get back what he had with Mystra, she’s eager to immediately reap the fruits of Gale’s labor, but put off acknowledging Gale’s attempts to rekindle.
She no longer wants a lover in him, but clearly he’s proven himself useful, so there’s no need to reject his advances. She can keep doing that until he’s as old as Elminster, and Gale’s guilt at their first relationship will keep him desperately trying to please her.
@@aquasis995 you hit the nail exactly on the head
"Patience, Gale." Exactly what god-Gale says to Tav if she asks him to take her to the heavens to become a god, after refusing his offer the first time and he ghosts them for months on end. Yet people think god-Gale is a good ending.
I mean in comparison to everyone else's endings the god ending for him is more neutral than bad in comparison to the other characters. Because he does lose himself a bit but he's not a monster.
This answers my question about whether to do a play through with his origin character, because if these are the options for the “good” ending, he’ll never see it. I was so scared taking him to Mystra! I talked him into apologizing to her, even though I though for sure he was going to dump me and go back to her which would’ve broken my heart, I didn’t care as long as it kept him alive 😭 Fortunately they made up and she agreed to cure him but he stayed with me, we are now planning our wedding, so the bitch can fight me for him if she comes sniffing around again! 👊🏻😂
Or you can make him a god and his own man. He will even ascend you too, if you romanced him.
the thing is, i feel like him ascending to godhood should have had a romance option, after all Ambition and Magic go together quite well, ah well
simp or corpse
it's so bad that i'm actually having a mental pause
I mean, you don't have to ask her to take you back? Literally one of the options is just him wishing for closure and to redeem himself but go off i guess
If you choose option to become god, or to take mystra's power - she kills you?
@@WitcherLover-pd9ye Yep.
That's exactly what Karsus did, @@WitcherLover-pd9ye; and we know how it ended.
Yeah, Gale becomes a god, but with a significantly smaller G than Mystra. She is a Greater Deity (one of the Greatest probably the greatest - bellow Lord Ao) Gale -with Karsus powers, is not. @@WitcherLover-pd9ye
To those of you who argue that Karsus never had his own magic, you clearly don't know much about the guy. According to the Forgotten Realms novel "Dangerous Games", the second book in the Netheril Trilogy, he was doing tons of research into a new kind of magic he created that he called "Heavy Magic", a form of magic he discovered and modified that he wanted the Netherese Empire to use as a sort of "bioweapon" against the phaerimm. The Crown of Karsus is infused with "Super Heavy Magic".
You do know high magic, heavy magic, arcane magic, and originally shadow magic all utilized the weave right? Shadow magic only really became its own thing when Mystra ripped the weave in half. Originally it was all either magic from the weave or a divine source.
Heavy magic's definition of "utilizing the weave" is feeding off of the Weave, high magic doesn't do that, as it originated from the elves from the island Evermeet.
@@LightStreak567 you need to read the Netheril series which is canonical and all were written and printed (the last book published a year after) before TSR was bought by WOKE on the Coke. Karsus experimented and devised new ways to use magic. He neither possessed the weave, nor one of his own. Mystra to thwart his attempt to take control of the weave ripped it in half.
@@mikewaterfield3599 WAY ahead of you buddy, I've had the audiobook versions since 2019. Plus, I never said he possessed the Weave. You're talking to a guy who has been collecting Forgotten Realms D&D sourcebooks, novels/audiobooks, comic books/digital comics and games since playing Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition back in 2012. So I'll forgive you for thinking I'm ignorant of the lore outside the Baldur's Gate games.
@@LightStreak567 its good to hear, but aging myself horribly. Im old enough to remember our group catching the “satanic panic”. Its why I really don’t like WOKE on the Coke. Having lived through the conservative crap and now the liberal version….. the conservatives were easier to shake off. Generally the only lore WotC has added was the spell plague and another pseudo death of “not mystra”. Who actually likes forth ed and all that crap anyway? Hell 95% percent of the lore and novels were written well before the buy out and certainly all the best novels were written in the early days.
Blue-balled by the goddess...wow.
i think if you make gale a squid you get a better ending
What happens exactly?
if Gale turns into a squidface, their is an option for Mystra to turn you back, but at the cost of going with her forever @@krose6451
She pitied him for his sacrifice and offer him a cure by leaving the mortal world and join her@@krose6451
@@krose6451 He gets his soul back, becomes her chosen with a place in the planes and she's more enthusiastic to make him her lover again. I guess because becoming a mindflayer is a huge sacrifice on top of righting wrongs?
Honestly it is a great end.Emperor does not get to enslave humanity.Tav is not squid.Gale can return to human.Win-win.Not the best win ofc but win is win.@@selty
problem with this dialog, first Karsus never had a weave of his own. He tried and failed to take the weave himself. Secondly, Cyric is the god of ambition. Third, Mystras "chosen" are many, Especially compared to other deities. Lastly, Mystra forbids nothing.
@mcdoogle_robotman most are not like that at all. Although Elminster…….. hell there are the seven sisters. “THE BLACK STAFF” (who BTW is probably still alive canonically) even a Drow who double dips with the dark dancer.
They added lore in this game. That Karsus's Folly created a separate weave, the Karsite Weave, much like Shar had her Shadow weave I suppose.
@@JonBondgsr yeah….. karsus attempted to take control of the weave “THE WEAVE” not his weave. back when all non divine magic was under one weave. After the fall of Netheril Mystra ripped the weave in two. Shar would not truly control the shadow weave until after the time of troubles when she tried to assassinate mystra and take the weave. This gave us the spell plague and second sundering. The lesson here? STOP SCREWING WITH MYSTRA! or first Mystryl, Mystra, then Arial Manx aka Midnight aka mystra 2.0.
Yeah, this is the biggest brain fart of the game
@@JonBondgsras I understand, every god of magic has own weave, which collapses when they die. Karsus was a god for just a few moments, so his weave was nascent.
love his overarching theme of flying too close to the sun
why does everyone hate her so? I don't mean to defend her but she is a godess, I mean of course she has her agenda, it is her role and duty and probably isn't allowed to (or maybe even can't) give herself to 'true' unconditional love. Gale should have learned that by now. Her role is to defend the weave and Gale is a persistent threat to the balance of it.
I am very late to the party, something to remember about her. She is somewhat omnipotent and omnipresent, because the weave is everywhere it's in her wheelhouse,
I'm not the biggest lore guy for d&d but from my understanding their is conflicting reports on the fact that she may or may not have the knowledge and memories of the previous god of magic, *(because if that's the case it gets really murky because there's three different gods including this one who used to be midnight. So you have the one that died who was the original one and then you have the beautiful peasant girl who gave midnight her power but being somewhat omnipotent and able to impose your feeling on to the weave is a little weird for people)* and if you go with that assumption it does make her relationship with Gale really bad because then you have a millennia old goddess manipulating him knowing what's going to happen and not telling him anything also grooming him from the day he could feel magic, (if you don't go with that assumption she isn't a very old goddess she was 26 when she ascended she pretty much had like 29-28 years of being a God then some what died and then was resurrected in a way more like restored and has only been operating for 5 to 7 years before bg3)
And if you're just going off of the game depending on your dialog options she can get needlessly aggressive with you, to the point that most people would just try to spite her because for a god that should know pretty much everything that's going on she acts very moody and childish. (It's fitting for the demographic of people that typically worship her being wizards high and mighty childish people who have too much belief in themselves. But it's a little too close to being a Greek god for most people)
And also on the first point and last point. To my knowledge there is no restriction on love, and when he becomes a God there is no danger to the weave. His explanation of it is you're quite clear it is something else entirely and it is the source of his power not connected to the regular weave.
i can fix him
So annoying that Gale doesn't get to achieve his ambition no matter what, he is either killed or played by Mystra
He can. This video is incorrect, in case of middle option Mystra goes salty, but does not attack. She kills him only when he challenges her for her position.
@@bengunn9670 the video was correct then, but the game fortunately patched this in the last update
@@victorribeiro4235 I see
Was not Mystra a mortal at one point? Seems hypocritical that she should resent Gale's ambition.
This is a second Mystra. She didn't aspire to be a God really. As a mortal she was a witch named Midnight, devoted only to the study of the Weave and was worshiping the old Mystra, pursuing every scrap of magic she could. Once old Mystra got killed, Midnight got chosen by Ao to replace her and ascended. To avoid confusion, she took the name of the old god of magic, Mystra number two you can say lol.
@@pativi6643 Mortal magic user devoted to the study of magic and worshipper of mystra...now where have we seen that before?
@@pativi6643 Didn't Mystra/Midnight have an on-again, off-again thing going with Kelemvor as well?
@@Zaxares If I understand correctly, Midnight and Kelemvor were lovers as mortals, but their relationship broke off when they both ascended, and took the duties of their portfolios.
@@masterjoda999 To be fair, that's all of wizards lol, since Mystra is the Weave, they have to worship her, because she has a hold on their soul. Interestingly, a lot of wizards fall in love with their Goddess, because of the effects the Weave produces - nurturing, almost maternal and protective. And that is shown in Act 1 scene with Gale. A lot of people interpret it as Gale hitting on Tav, but it's far from the truth - all the feelings that narrator talks about - warm feeling of a kind word and touch, scent of rosewater, anticipation of the kiss, being nestled in Mystra cup - they are all produced by the Weave, and by extension by Mystra herself (since she is the Weave). It is almost narcotic, and it's why when the Weave vanishes the night suddenly feels cold and lonesome, almost like an addiction. The relationship between Mystra and the Wizards in general is quite co-dependand and messed up. Add it to the fact that she often takes her most skilled wizards, chosen as lovers... As Khelben, another chosen of Mystra said: "There’s a reason why most old mages are obsessed or insane." It is quite sad really.
I'm confused. Did Mystra kill you when you chose God of Ambition? Gale survives making that choice when he's a companion, and in this video it seems like Mystra basically mocked the domain and then warned you not to strive for more - but then killed you?
This is old.Challenging Mystra is still leads to death but now become god of ambition.
I am very late to the party, something to remember about her. She is somewhat omnipotent and omnipresent, because the weave is everywhere it's in her wheelhouse,
I'm not the biggest lore guy for d&d but from my understanding their is conflicting reports on the fact that she may or may not have the knowledge and memories of the previous god of magic, and if you go with that assumption it does make her relationship with Gale really bad because then you have a millennia old goddess manipulating him knowing what's going to happen and not telling him anything also grooming him from the day he could feel magic,
And if you're just going off of the game depending on your dialog options she can get needlessly aggressive with you, to the point that most people would just try to spite her because for a god that should know pretty much everything that's going on she acts very moody and childish. (It's fitting for the demographic of people that typically worship her being wizards high and mighty childish people who have too much belief in themselves. But it's a little too close to being a Greek god for most people)
I did a little bit of researching because I wanted to see. The midnight interaction of the goddess of magic isn't even like 60 years old, she is pretty much omnipotent and omnipresent. And I've seen debate on if she has the memories of the previous two gods of magic or at the very least their knowledge. With that in mind she is either still awful or much better,
Because you have two avenues of thinking about her it's either even if she's like 50 something she is omnipotent and omnipresent because of the nature of her power so that doesn't really compute, or because she was pretty much in a coma for most of her time as a god she didn't even get 30 years in before she was knocked out, and she's only been back for like 7 she's pretty much still a mortal (I would go with the first option because you see how Gale turns out when he becomes a God and she has a much stronger domain. And her domain literally causes her to know everything as long as she isn't tuning it out)
Man, I wish Gale could end up in a really healthy relationship.
I find it odd that mystra's outfit is literally copy paste of the outfit that nobles in BG3 wear lol when I saw the same outfit copy pasted I had a double take
It annoys me so much that even when you don't want to overthrow her she stills kills you... It's my power fantasy to reach godhood why don't they let me...
Icarus
@@Broomer52 Karsus
Give Pathfinder: Wrath of the righteous a try.
So Gale can only become a god if you're NOT playing as him?
you can become one now bro.
It looks like donating 5000 dollars to a twitch streamer
Hello. I had an affair with Gale and I don't know why that scene didn't appear to me in the end, and Gale didn't want to stay with me either. He went to look for the crown of Karsus when we already had a relationship. Can someone explain to me?
This scene appears only if you play as Gale origin.
About him not staying with you -- I just got the same ending. I don't really know why that happened, but I suspect it's because I've been supporting his desire to obtain the crown throughout entire playthrough. In my previous playthrough, when we were just friends, I was constantly questioning his desire, and he agreed to deliver the crown to Mystra in the end.
This in my opinion is the worst ending for gale, after everything he is back to where he started
Can get these endings as companion endings? Or do you have to play them as mains?
mains.
You're either a good simp, or a dead one......
Does anyone know the ost of music
„Purging of creech Y‘leek Sounds different but close to this.
I wish i know the ost of this too.^^
I believe its either "Wash My Dreams Away" or "Wash My Pain Away"
They were the two songs composed for Gale's romance scenes.
'Wash my dreams away'! The full is on spotify
Mystra is so selfish, dooming Gale to be back with her seems like a fate worse than blowing himself up tbh..
Pretty sure that all the comments I want to write about Mystra are ageinst UA-cam guidelines, so let's just say that she's the worst -_-
Real asf. The things I would call her to her FACE if I could. Her and mizora and shar bc the fact that we can kill them in game pisses me off.
ditch her, shadowheart is prettier anyway. abondon your shitty gods together.
Mystra's simp more like.
Because of my loot goblin nature i am never going to recruit gale or follow his story but since youtube exists i don't have to xD
He only consumes 3 items, and there's plenty of trash items you can give him.
To be fair Gale only eats like 3 items and weirdly stops asking for more after that lol. Don't worry, the first couple items in the game are not that good and Gale is surprisingly strong & useful as a wizard.
Bro only eats like 3 items... You cant have that much of a mental illness.
@@dgmt8789 not as much as being born like you ;)
@@Tholapsyx hmm honestly didn't know this , maybe i might try using him in my warlock playthrough
She is so toxic
2:30 i thoroughly believe Mystra talking at the end is to appease WOTC since it starts 6e/spellplague2.0 😂