That Kirk was so beautiful ...I knew nothing about arrowheads until watching your videos so all these names are new to me..learning alot from watching your videos...Thank you
You had some awesome finds out there today . The Kirk was wicked . We find the Mosasaur bones in some of our creeks too . It is actually a large reptile that lived in the shallow seas during the Cretaceous . I helped on a couple of digs here in Alabama years ago . One of them we dug out a Mosasaur that was around 90% complete .
Outstanding first stage Kirk !!!!!Too bad it has a snapped base....still an AWESOME find!!!Love the vertebrae also....could have made a good grinding stone or mallot out of them too !
+flintman Thanks man...yes.,too bad it's a snapped base.,but none the less a killer first stage.,which do not come very often as you know...Thanks for your comment and the best of luck to you
+Chris Bennett Thanks Chris...yes.,all of the Tombigbee drainage system holds cretaceous period fossils ...more so from Lee into Tippah county...See you soon....:)
Wow! You don't know how lucky you are finding all of this great stuff while simply walking creeks! Wish things like this were possible where I live in Europe too...! By the way, and I think enough people probably told you this already, mosasaurs (and there were many different species) were marine reptiles related to snakes, particularly pythons. Much like them they had very elongate bodies, though they had four paddles by way of appendages. They also had a tail fluke and may have had a dorsal/back fin. Another feature they share with snakes is that they had palletal teeth in the back of their mouths. They were the apex/top predators of the oceans of their time and outcompeted other strains of marine reptile that had been around longer. Then, concerning the vertebrae: while the second is undeniably a mosasaur, I'm not too sure about the first one you found. Not only does it's preservation differ from the second specimen you found, but its circumference seems rather angular compared to what you might expect from a mosasaur vertebra. It also seems to project a lot further beyond the neural arch than you'd expect to see in a mosasaur, and the fact that it thins out towards the back would also be unusual. Now both crocodiles and horses have very similar looking vertebrae. And while I'm not particularly good in identifying either of them, I think there are enough clues to be a bit reserved in the identification of this particular vertebra as mosasaur. To me it looks like it could very well be an ancient horse vertebra.
Beautiful find buddy! Killer Kirk with awesome everything! Cool bones too, there is a fossil site around here and they announced on the news they discovered a full mastodon skeleton! Maybe they will find some points stuck in him!! Good luck dude and Merry Christmas!
+kevin8122006 I looked again, ...im pretty sure thats a point,I wish theditchwalker would see our posts,and go back to check,..it looks good to me...any other opinions??
+Theditchwalker sorry it took so long to get back...I usually stay on top of comments.,but have had so many lately I have fallen behind...appreciateyou guys views and comments
Please, look at your video at around 3:01 or so when you found the second vertibrae. on the gravel to the left of your vertibrae is what appears to be a nice 3+ inch side notch point!!!!!! you might go back and find it if you havent already found it! what do you think? please let me know if you find it....I'd like to see it!!
+crescenthillstudios I've watched it a couple times and paused it....It has rained several times since this hunt so it may not be there anymore....It really looks like a piece of clay to me......is what your seeing grey...?
yes, it looks like the point is down and the notches are at the top, but it is around 3:00 into that video and I was mainly looking at the shape. the detail wasn't such that I could see flaking. But I just wanted to be sure. I'd hate for you to be that close to a killer piece and just not see it because I was focused on the camera work. Just making sure. What state are you in? I'm in Owensboro, Ky.
wish i could go to some nice creekwalk with you sometime. I've got a big collection from surface hunting and a little digging over 25 years ago. But i would like a creek veteran to show me the finer tenants of creek hunting. most all the creeks in 20- 30 miles of me are muddy bottomed. I've walked on the Ohio River banks locally with some sucess. Any chance you'd let me hunt with you sometime? I'm too far away to be any competition to your hunting opportunities.
Sure man.,sounds great..most of my higher grade finds come from smaller tributaries...but yeah.,we could set that up...Got a vid coming up tonight...found a large Benton made from buffalo river chert....I'm working on it...could be an hour or 2...😁
Awesome finds! Those bones are very interesting, likely remnants of large aquatic reptiles that lived just before the K-Pg extinction event 66 million years ago. We have had a few dinosaur bones found here in Missouri but the Permian-Cretaceous fossil record is very poor for most of the eastern states. I have gone to Montana a few times to excavate dinosaur bones in the Hell Creek formation, and let me tell you there is chunks of dinosaur bones everywhere. Do you have an idea what a piece of the Mosasaur vertebra like that would go for?
+fallsgrave You are exactly rite....sounds like you know a lot more about fossils than I do lol.....I bet those trips you took were awesome.....I have no I dea what they're worth
Hey man I just wanted to let you know that at 2:58 in your video when you are looking at the fossil by the big rock is a really amazing arrowhead. I wanted to let your know because I have missed arrowheads before.
Cool Mosasaur verts! Where's the site? Might find some other fossil goodies there, as there were a lot of big Marine reptiles and decent sized sharks in the Cretaceous. (Btw Mosasaurs were ~50 foot Marine reptiles, not fish)
That was a great group of finds! The KSB looks to be original state and never re-sharpened. I never understood the reason for snapping the bases off though. Doesn't seem practical for hafting. Was it religious or something like that? Best wishes and Merry Christmas, Dave.
+Daddydigger1 appreciate it Dave...Good question. It is believed that these KSB's were actually Kirk corner notched .,which with the deep notches.,were prone to snapping off in the handles. So many of them done this that collectors typed them as KSB's to better market them...Best of luck and Merry Christmas you you my friend
I remember the old Archaeologist talking about snapped base bifaces and not knowing what they were but I figured out that they were used to pry with. I don't know what but that is what produced them. Oh I am 75.
I'd love to get some advice on arrow head hunting. I'm in Memphis, TN, and have a lake house at Pickwick. What should I look for in hunting sites? How about in the Pickwick area? Also, do you know what tribes inhabited that area? I, myself, am Potowatami.
A common myth about arrowheads is that they are all perceived to be arrow points...the bow and arrow did not evolve until the woodland period...these are much older and were used as knives.
Man, I want to hunt arrowheads so badly and here I am, stuck in the midlands of South Carolina. AND to beat it all, I am 1/4 Cherokee, born and raised in the mountains of North Carolina. Never get up that way anymore and don't know where I'd go if I did. Around here there may be some down around the Congaree River but have no clue as to where one could go openly and hunt. Bummer
+Frankie Cowsert Heard that Frankie...There's rocks where you are....I would get a topographical map and hit as many tributaries as I could get permission in lol....remember..,they're everywhere...:) Best of luck to you
I have had a lot of viewers find arrowheads in my vids...not saying it isn't.,but I can see a whole lot better what's around me than a person watching the vid...I don't miss many.
Just thought I'd let you know that I have found 183 arrow in one case and 465 in another and I've never heard of anyone else finding anything like that have you ever heard of anyone else finding as many.?
I have a hard time grasping the idea that Indians would lose these arrowheads up and down these creeks, the ones your finding were probably never lost but were thrown away or left but not lost. You feel that.
Your rite.....Most are washed from sites by erosion of the banks....Creeks have changed courses over time.,so some creeks that you find points in never were inhabited by the natives.,but their artifacts erode from the banks and are deposited into the creek bed.
Alot of his prestine finds don't have any conglomerate on them and the fractures are not weathered much like authentic points are. Be he naps them or a buddy does.
That Kirk was so beautiful ...I knew nothing about arrowheads until watching your videos so all these names are new to me..learning alot from watching your videos...Thank you
Dang!!!! A point like that and fossils too! Thanks for sharing.
+Heartbreaker Relics Was a good day....Appreciate it Spike
Outstanding Kirk snapped-base ........ what a beauty! Some really cool vertebrae as well. Tnx 4 posting.
+David Straub Thanks David...I think this is my best Kirk snapped base...some of my best vertebrae as well...My pleasure...Goodluck out there
You had some awesome finds out there today . The Kirk was wicked . We find the Mosasaur bones in some of our creeks too . It is actually a large reptile that lived in the shallow seas during the Cretaceous . I helped on a couple of digs here in Alabama years ago . One of them we dug out a Mosasaur that was around 90% complete .
+ALABAMAHEADHUNTER Thanks Cliff...Wow ..,I bet that was awesome...I've only seen a vertebra or 2 at a time
What a killer Kirk!! And the Mososaur bones are awesome too. Good luck!!
+PaHeadhunter Yes it is....That was my best Kirk snapped base to date.,and I've been doing this a long time lol....Good luck to you as well my friend
Bones and Stones.Cool combo.That sure is a killer artifact.Love that material.Fine workmanship too.
Cool finds. I really like those mosasaur vertebrae. Should be some mosasaur teeth laying around too.
That Kirk, snapped base or not, is one of the prettiest knapped things I've ever seen. I knap too, and if I ever get that good I'll be thrilled.
Beauty of a point. Cool fossils too.
Great hunt! cool finds good luck to you in the future.
Thanks....+Rockin Ridgerunner ...Goodluck to you as well...:)
Very cool fossils! Killer point Love the color of it! GL and HH.
+brians840 Thanks Brian...Good luck to you
Outstanding first stage Kirk !!!!!Too bad it has a snapped base....still an AWESOME find!!!Love the vertebrae also....could have made a good grinding stone or mallot out of them too !
+flintman Thanks man...yes.,too bad it's a snapped base.,but none the less a killer first stage.,which do not come very often as you know...Thanks for your comment and the best of luck to you
Man, that Kirk is awesomely made and it's gotta be extra cool, to be able to find an occasional fossilized dino bone!
+creekdalton It's the best Kirk snapped base I have ever found....and the best examples of mosasaur verts I have found....Good luck out there Creek
You have some amazing creeks to hunt in. Good luck.
What a beautiful find!! Merry Christmas!
+Kendra O Thanks Kendra....Merry Christmas to you and your family
+Theditchwalker Thank you!
Nice finds. Stay awesome,
Nice finds, keep up the good work. I really enjoy your videos.
Stellar finds - what an amazing point! Thanks for the video, great stuff!
+Hopewellmj My pleasure man...Goodluck
Great point! Love the color.
Cool finds . Wow!
Amazing finds, so much fun!
Awesome finds!!!!
killer point with two grrreat fossils. quite a fine, fine day. niiiice job like always. I found a similar fossil on the Tombigbee last summer.
+Chris Bennett Thanks Chris...yes.,all of the Tombigbee drainage system holds cretaceous period fossils ...more so from Lee into Tippah county...See you soon....:)
Great fines Sir!!!!!!!!
Thank you
Nice point, interesting fossils.
+Tommy Vinson Thanks Tommy and thank you for commenting
Wow! You don't know how lucky you are finding all of this great stuff while simply walking creeks! Wish things like this were possible where I live in Europe too...!
By the way, and I think enough people probably told you this already, mosasaurs (and there were many different species) were marine reptiles related to snakes, particularly pythons. Much like them they had very elongate bodies, though they had four paddles by way of appendages. They also had a tail fluke and may have had a dorsal/back fin. Another feature they share with snakes is that they had palletal teeth in the back of their mouths. They were the apex/top predators of the oceans of their time and outcompeted other strains of marine reptile that had been around longer.
Then, concerning the vertebrae: while the second is undeniably a mosasaur, I'm not too sure about the first one you found. Not only does it's preservation differ from the second specimen you found, but its circumference seems rather angular compared to what you might expect from a mosasaur vertebra. It also seems to project a lot further beyond the neural arch than you'd expect to see in a mosasaur, and the fact that it thins out towards the back would also be unusual. Now both crocodiles and horses have very similar looking vertebrae. And while I'm not particularly good in identifying either of them, I think there are enough clues to be a bit reserved in the identification of this particular vertebra as mosasaur. To me it looks like it could very well be an ancient horse vertebra.
Awesome finds brother!
Sweet snaped base!!!!!
Beautiful find buddy! Killer Kirk with awesome everything! Cool bones too, there is a fossil site around here and they announced on the news they discovered a full mastodon skeleton! Maybe they will find some points stuck in him!! Good luck dude and Merry Christmas!
+Rocky Top Relics Thanks Rocky Top...Dang..another one found?!...Maybe so...Good luck and Merry Christmas to you and your family
Nice Point & fossils
Man that is a beautiful point. I would have never knew what those bones came from. LOL Merry Christmas and God Bless!!
+Tim Hampton Thanks Tim...Lol I hear ya....Merry Christmas to you
Nice assortment Have a Merry Christmas good luck out there
+tuledude89 Thanks my friend...Good luck and Merry Christmas to you as well
Nice finds
Beautiful point!!
right at 3 minutes,when your holding the 2nd vertebrae. .right behind your hand, at the point of that big rock,...is that ba point laying there??
+paddypointhound I was just about to type the same thing. Stopped the video at 2:59 and it sure looks like a good point.
+kevin8122006 I looked again, ...im pretty sure thats a point,I wish theditchwalker would see our posts,and go back to check,..it looks good to me...any other opinions??
+paddypointhound I'm here....unfortunately all I can do is stop the vid and look...it has come several rains since that hunt
+Theditchwalker sorry it took so long to get back...I usually stay on top of comments.,but have had so many lately I have fallen behind...appreciateyou guys views and comments
+Theditchwalker what do you think?..does that look like a point to you??
That first arrowhead is beautiful
Very nice man keep it up
+Kevin Brown Thanks Kevin...Should be good this year
I sure hope the water goes down alot
+Kevin Brown You must be talking about river levels?
+Theditchwalker around here rivers and lakes man they way too high this year
great hunting congrats
Thanks man...Good luck
Please, look at your video at around 3:01 or so when you found the second vertibrae. on the gravel to the left of your vertibrae is what appears to be a nice 3+ inch side notch point!!!!!! you might go back and find it if you havent already found it! what do you think? please let me know if you find it....I'd like to see it!!
+crescenthillstudios I've watched it a couple times and paused it....It has rained several times since this hunt so it may not be there anymore....It really looks like a piece of clay to me......is what your seeing grey...?
yes, it looks like the point is down and the notches are at the top, but it is around 3:00 into that video and I was mainly looking at the shape. the detail wasn't such that I could see flaking. But I just wanted to be sure. I'd hate for you to be that close to a killer piece and just not see it because I was focused on the camera work. Just making sure. What state are you in? I'm in Owensboro, Ky.
I understand....I'm in Tupelo,Mississippi...90 miles southeast of Memphis
wish i could go to some nice creekwalk with you sometime. I've got a big collection from surface hunting and a little digging over 25 years ago. But i would like a creek veteran to show me the finer tenants of creek hunting. most all the creeks in 20- 30 miles of me are muddy bottomed. I've walked on the Ohio River banks locally with some sucess. Any chance you'd let me hunt with you sometime? I'm too far away to be any competition to your hunting opportunities.
Sure man.,sounds great..most of my higher grade finds come from smaller tributaries...but yeah.,we could set that up...Got a vid coming up tonight...found a large Benton made from buffalo river chert....I'm working on it...could be an hour or 2...😁
At 3:26 is that another arrowhead? To the right of the round stone.
Awesome finds! Those bones are very interesting, likely remnants of large aquatic reptiles that lived just before the K-Pg extinction event 66 million years ago. We have had a few dinosaur bones found here in Missouri but the Permian-Cretaceous fossil record is very poor for most of the eastern states. I have gone to Montana a few times to excavate dinosaur bones in the Hell Creek formation, and let me tell you there is chunks of dinosaur bones everywhere.
Do you have an idea what a piece of the Mosasaur vertebra like that would go for?
+fallsgrave You are exactly rite....sounds like you know a lot more about fossils than I do lol.....I bet those trips you took were awesome.....I have no I dea what they're worth
Hey man I just wanted to let you know that at 2:58 in your video when you are looking at the fossil by the big rock is a really amazing arrowhead. I wanted to let your know because I have missed arrowheads before.
Cool Mosasaur verts! Where's the site? Might find some other fossil goodies there, as there were a lot of big Marine reptiles and decent sized sharks in the Cretaceous.
(Btw Mosasaurs were ~50 foot Marine reptiles, not fish)
Awesome!
+George Roberts Thanks George...Goodluck down there in south Ms
At the end of the video there is an arrowhead laying in the gravel. How did you miss that? Center of the frame and top frame of the video.
I have no idea.,but if there was...,it is long gone now....Thanks for your comment
Mossasaurs are Marine Reptiles which lived in the Cretaceous Oceans and were the largest marine reptiles at that period.
Cool !
Were do you find all this cool stuff? Like what state do you find it?
Mississippi
That was a great group of finds! The KSB looks to be original state and never re-sharpened. I never understood the reason for snapping the bases off though. Doesn't seem practical for hafting. Was it religious or something like that? Best wishes and Merry Christmas, Dave.
+Daddydigger1 appreciate it Dave...Good question. It is believed that these KSB's were actually Kirk corner notched .,which with the deep notches.,were prone to snapping off in the handles. So many of them done this that collectors typed them as KSB's to better market them...Best of luck and Merry Christmas you you my friend
I remember the old Archaeologist talking about snapped base bifaces and not knowing what they were but I figured out that they were used to pry with. I don't know what but that is what produced them. Oh I am 75.
I agree...either prying or a lot of bearing down pressure snapped them off in the handle...I appreciate your educated comments Mr. Smith
I'd love to get some advice on arrow head hunting. I'm in Memphis, TN, and have a lake house at Pickwick. What should I look for in hunting sites? How about in the Pickwick area? Also, do you know what tribes inhabited that area? I, myself, am Potowatami.
Awesome ! Since you found fossils in the same place as the artifacts , do you know the age of the arrowheads ?
I do
Awesome! On all three accounts
Amazing vert, congrats!!
btw mosasaurs aren't fish they're marine reptiles. Great site you have there to find them.
Why are there arrow so big?
A common myth about arrowheads is that they are all perceived to be arrow points...the bow and arrow did not evolve until the woodland period...these are much older and were used as knives.
Nice finds!!! Location?
North Mississippi
Hey ditch walker are you still on here?
Yes.,I'll be on with new content soon
That was a Hardin before the base was snapped. I have one just it from Wayne County Jawja.
Man, I want to hunt arrowheads so badly and here I am, stuck in the midlands of South Carolina. AND to beat it all, I am 1/4 Cherokee, born and raised in the mountains of North Carolina. Never get up that way anymore and don't know where I'd go if I did. Around here there may be some down around the Congaree River but have no clue as to where one could go openly and hunt. Bummer
+Frankie Cowsert Heard that Frankie...There's rocks where you are....I would get a topographical map and hit as many tributaries as I could get permission in lol....remember..,they're everywhere...:) Best of luck to you
where is this
Northern Mississippi
Theditchwalker thank you :)
Why didn’t he pick up the arrowhead in front of him in the end at 3:00 min
I have had a lot of viewers find arrowheads in my vids...not saying it isn't.,but I can see a whole lot better what's around me than a person watching the vid...I don't miss many.
pretty point.
Thank you
Just thought I'd let you know that I have found 183 arrow in one case and 465 in another and I've never heard of anyone else finding anything like that have you ever heard of anyone else finding as many.?
What state or county is this in?
Mississippi
Does anyone know of an entry-level air scribe? Some of them are just so expensive.
I have a hard time grasping the idea that Indians would lose these arrowheads up and down these creeks, the ones your finding were probably never lost but were thrown away or left but not lost. You feel that.
Your rite.....Most are washed from sites by erosion of the banks....Creeks have changed courses over time.,so some creeks that you find points in never were inhabited by the natives.,but their artifacts erode from the banks and are deposited into the creek bed.
0:54 his thumb is broken
"This is a piece of my mother in law's hip joint. I drug her out here 3 years ago and she keeps trying to come back."
fukin dude! ive never had like that
He plants them😡
Lots of people think that and I don't care .....I'll just keep doing what I do....:)
Alot of his prestine finds don't have any conglomerate on them and the fractures are not weathered much like authentic points are. Be he naps them or a buddy does.
FAKE
+Joseph Stam No sir..everything I post is authentic