tbh I feel like more sprouts would survive the gaze if the game actually taught them the stuff like gaze and stack markers. Instead they kind of just sneak them in a dungeon or 2 and usually its still brute force-able... until its not and the sprout has no idea why because they never actually learned the mechanic so much as face tanked it.
@@andrewpulle315this Like I would've never have known about this eye thingy if I didn't watch a guide beforehand lol And the eye mechanic, I didn't even know about this and was always confused when I turned into a stone when others didn't in haukke manor... I only figured it iut after going through it couple of times through duty roulette
@@LowIntSpecimen The last fight of Crystal Tower teaches you to stack stack markers, for the levitate. I didn't learn that you're never again supposed to do that until the first stormblood alliance raid... Many a brave warrior of light got bonked to teach me this lesson.
I still have no idea what the pads do, though that's probably cause I haven't been in a group that's wiped on it yet. I just try to get in every circle that's not yellow tbh.
@@ShadMuffin if we're talking about the same pads (in the eye dude); if you happen to get the debuff doom from him, stepping on the pads removes doom for you :)
Yes, it's basically the same as it is in one of the early dungeons. Temple of Qarn, maybe? But I'd assume people also steamrolled through that dungeon by just frantically running around on every tile that's glowing
To be fair, the Crystal Tower raids go from "ok there's that insta wipe ancient flare and meteors, but nothing else is really dangerous" to "there's literally nothing you need to do here but tank and spank and maybe not get killed by curtain call" to "HERE'S SOME ACTUAL MECHANICS BITCHES, YOU BETTER KNOW THEM ELSE YOU'RE DEAD AND THE RAID WIPES" So it's little wonder this place is much harder on sprouts, especially if they make up a good portion of the raid
Especially in current year where the first two have been nerfed so much that the mechanics are kinda pointless now which puts you in a false sense of security when Raid 3 hits with all these mechanics in full force. I think it depends on the party explaining to sprouts what to do for specific bosses
I have replayed world of darkness soo many times just to learn that one with the damn eyeball and I still die. I look away and everything. I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t think I’ll ever figure it out. the only boss I struggle with.
@@Squeaxx Its a lot going on in that fight. The big one is looking away from mortal gaze, theres also the platform lighting up with two different colors that you have to alternate standing on, theres the lamp things(I dont remember what theyre called) that you have to dps and i think an aoe called lvl 150 death or something you have to run out of. So its a lot to remember lol.
Never ever tell a sprout a terminology of the game. Use simple words like the pink/purple eye and then turn around. 90% of sprouts won't know what mortal gaze is.
And if you must drop a good hint at the beginning, please spell the word properly. Three out of four of us kept looking for "the Nail". Apparently we should have been looking for "The Tail". After two wipes we three just kind of figured it out. Even though the experienced person repeated "the Nail" at us again lol lol. And when I said "Tail! duh!" they may have thought I was being snarky at them, but no. Just figuring out for the first time that enemies are listed on the left of my HUD and Hey it said TAIL arrgghh...if only I'd looked two wipes ago, but it's a download data dump in the early daze. whoever the hint giver was, I wasn't snarking at you. Just face palming myself. When you know better, you do better.
When I fought Cerberus, I was told to destroy the adds...and I thought the gastric balls were adds you had to destroy...we wiped twice before someone was like "What chuckle keeps destroying the gastric balls??" and I was just... *sweats profusely*
People really overestimate how self-explanatory a mechanic is in dungeons they have been in plenty of times. Nothing about Cerberus is that obvious, maybe apart from "don't stand in front of him", which is just a general good advice for non-tanks in this game. And if there is any help, people often just write "A=Adds, B=Belly, C=Chains". Like.. how is this supposed to tell anyone anything who doesn't know about this already?
The moment we had the influx of new players begin, my gut said 'make CT macros, or else'. And for once, I listened to my gut feeling, and made macros for all the important things. Holy crap they have saved us so many times skdjghsdkjghskd
ya i started doing that as i got tired of wipeing on stupid crap in game. i wont blam new players 100% of the time but if some one explations it to you and you still die i have no simtheny for you.
If you see a sprout in a raid or a dungeon with tricky mechanics please take the 2 mins to give a quick rundown. I am still a sprout but I study what I'm getting into before I get into it. The sad thing is that I, as being a first time in the event myself, am typically the only one to explain to the other sprouts what is going on or going to happen. ☹️
It helps to ask for tips as well. Just because you are a sprout, doesn't mean we know you don't know what you're doing. If you ask then people will probably provide.
Excluding harder modes of normal content why on earth would you spoil your first time by watching other players complete the content first? Duty roulette rewards are hefty for a reason, we're helping fresh players. If we're after a somewhat guaranteed clear then we should queue as a pre-made or use party finder. It is a shame you have felt the need to research content before doing it therefore missing out on a real first time experience.
@@pasteldreams5413 sadly in my experience that is not the case and the most constructive piece of advice I get is 'don't die'. I do try and look up things before hand but sometimes I die to something I cannot fathom what it was and I will probably never know XD
@@lullylew9083 first time experience of what exactly? Messing up an encounter and possibly wiping the raid or being a massive burden to the healers? Any small pleasure to be had of "learning" something blindly does not outweigh wasting the time of 3+ people.
@@Karthunk By all means give new players a basic run down on a strat when you reach a boss but I wouldn't make them watch a video. That way they get most of the first time experience. You're not wrong, Karthunk we just have slightly differing perspectives and if we're both honest the game tailors to either with the use of party finder and duty roulette filters.
as a sprout, this was the dungeon that made me stop being a tank and switched to a dps (started out as a GLD/PLD and now I'm a DRG), it was my first time running this dungeon blind and I made mistakes and panics a lot, I got grilled afterwards by many other players from the other alliance, thus I dropped my sword and shield in exchange for a pole arms
I did the same thing. I didn't do this dungeon, but another one, I kept dying from Doom, without understanding. One person finally told me what to do and seemed a little upset. I felt so embarrassed, I logged out and didn't play for a few days. Then I picked up BLM. I got to level 23 before I went back to my WAR. Most people are super helpful and now I watch short dungeon guides to help.
@@amberlovely1 When i started playing, I was a war too. FF was my first 3D online game. Up til FF i only played like..rpgmaker pixel games and card games. I was very confused cuz I found it hard to even walk, let alone tank XD A few times I got some very aggressive dps and one of my 'friends' told me that i should try playing a dps instead because he didn't think i could tank. I was feeling very sad and finally decided to try another class. I looked at other classes and thought 'hah maybe gladiator would be good?'. I picked it up, leveled it to 20 and then realized it was a tank too. Now I'm doing newest savage raids as warrior 8) I'd say it was destiny.
Im sprout myself, sometimes when i die because some mechanics of bosses witch i dont know feel bad for my team and thinking dam prob they hate me, but its silent in chat and they are ok and tell how it works, im surprised since in wow you will get kicked, bashed, shouted, glad i started ffxiv not coming to wow back for sure.
Don't feel bad; as you've seen, most of the time people will be understanding and be helpful towards you if you communicate that you're new beforehand. Glad you're enjoying the game!
Well i have been playing for about 4 month and now on stormblood msq. Lets just say that i already experience a lot of game mechanic. But when i back into dungeon level 35 dungeon as a tank idk that the bee can instant kill you if you not kill it first. My point is even though you already have a lot of experience you may miss one or two in this game and sometime make a mistake.but good thing is, the community here are willing to tell you what you must to do and usually a lot of them are pretty chill.
to get yelled at or kicked you need to do something so wrong multiple times without reading chat that it actually looks like griefing, like being an off tank and constantly provoke the boss and make him face the group over multiple boss fights. Of course if people are in discord some will probably talk shit there but it rarely makes its way into group chat, the way roulettes are designed and the sprout symbol above new players heads, people are used to new players unlike wow
@@andrevieri1804 you can stun the bee btw when they cast Final Sting. XD Also you can stun the raid Aoe of the first boss. You need a good timing and you can do only one stun before the next AoE but if you have a melee in party, basically you can avoid to get doom. I learn this form a sprout, after 3k of hours btw. XD
Its easy to do stuff when you playing FF for years, but not that easy after 1 or 2 months ingame (at this time players enjoyng whole story stuff and dont actually focus on learning mechanics) Remember one thing, you were sprout too back in the day! And i bet you have also learned to avoid stuff and learned all bosses mechanics. So dont expect new players to know and learn everything in few days.
True, had a pretty bad run of the Orbonne Monastery where one alliance was full of newer players. Alliance B I think, and Alliance C would insult and tell them to leave if any of them died.
@@DogInatutu i recently got into a dungeon as a new player myself, one guy asked me to leave because I was garbage (not too far from those exact words) and couldn't learn mechanics after 5 wipes. He was immediately votekicked by the rest of my party. It felt good I was just getting massive lag spikes that didn't make it easy for me to dodge aoe's that day
Last time I was in World of Darkness, we spent about an hour in the place. Wiped on the first eyeball boss 5x and every boss after that we wiped at least once. We had over 10 people brand new to the instance. It was painful but everyone stuck it out and pushed through to the end.
if it was around 2 months ago then i think we were at the same instance because that was exactly what happened to me that time and sorry i was one of the new sprouts lol very sorry about that
The sound of Feint Particle Beam thumping down is just Cloud of Darkness’ Timbs stomping on some plants Also the number of times I’ve seen people get the order of steps wrong to get in Cerberus’ belly is definitely more than 1
my last run a guy said it was going really smoothly and it was but once we got to the last boss it all went downhill, and someone was like "you just had to say that"
It’s funny watching and hearing jaded “veteran” players get mad at a video game. As a “veteran” player in other games I’m always happy to see new players. I help them out when I can and understand there will be failures/wipes. Ffxiv has had a surge of new players because of another mmorpg mass exodus. It’s actually a good thing, the game won’t wither and die or have jaded “veteran” players only. That would be boring, life is about dealing with whatever comes your way. If you work or attend school things aren’t always easy, you need to adapt and move on. We were all new once…
that eyeball has caused many players agony and confusion. I'll never forget the sheer panic everyone felt as soon as they saw that doom buff and me as the healer felt the pain of throwing all my mp away to raising them
I had no idea the eyeball icon even meant anything, I thought it was just a cool visual effect. Took 2 wipes and a 5 min explanation for me to realize T_T
@@Murasame13 Yea I think it takes a while to figure it out honestly. That raid was the first time I payed close attention to buffs, so at least it taught me that those can be super important too XD
Big shoutout to the FFXIV community for not getting mad at me when I am a total scrub at a mechanic or boss and fail. For real. Y'all are the true heroes. I def wouldn't get this level of care in WoW
I've legitimately never seen so many dooms in one party on the first boss and.. a wipe to the last one. like wow that's a lot of people who don't know what they're doing! can't blame them too much of course, especially when they're new, but.. impressive.
ya it funny when it does happne the first week in july i had people sping that boss around and killing th whole raid or i would see half the raid get doom and just die makes it hard to rez 7 people of the party when you are the only one alive
With certain mechanics its totally understandable, its pretty easy to read most mechanics and kinda get a quick understanding but there are a few that are just wtf confusing if you dont read up on it even in the ez raids lol.
Reminds me of a run i had saved where i was the sole survivor of that alliance as a bard. Doom got 6 and the half/half room got the other one right after.
I love how you explain the mechanics of the first boss after you defeated him. Not. As many already said - just explain it with some simple words. We were all sprouts once before. So don't sigh and encourage them instead because you know the mechanics - they don't.
This is WHY, people who calls themselves Veterans, should always give a heads up to these little sprouts. Trust me, I've been in bad raids and everytime we wiped and explained the mechanics after, the run went smoother. So yeh, it's easy to laugh and point out at the sprouts though but people have to keep in mind that players all learn at the different rate.
Had a lot of sprouts in recent higher level raids, and I'm not a dedicated raider. I know when to move, but I don't know attacks by name. It's interesting watching the more experienced raiders quitting after one or two wipes. We get through it most of the time, and I've found a little humor and optimism goes a long way to help everyone keep going.
LMAO! This is probably one of the funniest things I've seen in weeks! And the opening commentary at the start had me laughing like a Jackal. I'm definitely going to have to check out more now. Thank you so much!
The first thing i do as a sprout whenever i get into a dungeon is mention that is my first time there, and usually people will explain strats or i do my runs with a veteran friend who got me into the game in the first place. Surprisingly my crystal tower runs went very well (with the exception of one time where people forgot to chain the dog) and people were very helpfull.
Personally i don't see the pains in just repeating a dungeon.. it makes it more enjoyable to see how a lack of organization can actually wipe 3 alliance groups. Imagine the people malding over one instance yikes.
One absolute vegetable of a healer made 4 Mentors leave EX Titane one after the other. No matter how many times we explained to NOT stand in landslide he was yeeted off at the first or second every single time.
Normal Content. Among other reasons we are rewarded heavily for duty roulette because we will be partied with new players to help them clear content and to keep all content somewhat current. I would never deprive a new player of their first time experiencing a raid or dungeon by expecting them to watch other people play it on youtube or something first. Alas it can be frustrating when people aren't listening to advice and guidance during the run.
Just a note for uploading content of people displaying questionable performance, you might want to set your game so that it changes the way player names are displayed so no one can say you are naming and shaming. Fun video btw.
Yeah I've considered it, not necessarily to make me look less of a bully but to protect the people showcased from undue harassment. For the record: I don't condone that sort of thing. Only I'm allowed to poke fun at people in my videos.
_half the party dying, cats Stone repeatedly_ Me too, man. Me too. It's that point where you're like, I don't know what to do, but I gotta cast something. Why? _Just gotta._
I just did my first world of darkness run and wow it kept me in my toes a lot. I did watch a youtube guide about the mechanics before hand since I was a warrior and I unknowingly became the main tank of the entire raid so had a lot of pressure (5 headed dragon was relaxing since I just had to dodge 1 attack while the rest had to deal with his mechanics).
I spent no joke 80 mins in the last EW dungeon, explaining the mechanics all the way and trying to keep the morale high. I had a fun time despite it all but gotta admit it stung I didn't get a single recommendation..........
@@mielikin me, the MT twice i covered a reaper who kept dying to mechanics had to use tank LB3 just to save the party from one mechanic *no commends* come on man, there were 7 other people
omg loved watching this please share more. also just 2 days ago i got cape westwind in my roulette and didnt notice i was the only non sprout in the party lol. nearly wiped had both tanks a heals and dps on the ground by the end
my WoD run as a sprout: 1st time: I got carried hard. Didn't know what to do aside from some vague don'ts and dos. 2nd time: took more time since more than half were sprouts and were new but luckily there was someone that gave detailed instructions on what to do for each of the bosses. Also f*ck that eye. 3rd time and onward: I am doing it to admire CoD boobas
Everyday I realize that I've missed so many mechanics that were happening and I just didn't realize. I was always confused by the cloud of darkness fight since it seemed like it never did much attacking besides the big lazer. Only now do I realize in the dozens of times I've done this raid I have never been targeted by feint particle beam and had no clue it existed. I thank my teammates for their sacrifice.
I brought the laser marker from the last boss to my team the first time I went to this raid. Instant wipe. That's when I learned the difference between stack and target markers.
In this game if you state that it's your first time most people are gonna explain the mechanics to you It's up to you obviously, but I feel like discovering a fight as you step in for the first time is an amazing feeling - even if I end up dying because I failed a mechanic
@@sheeeeeeeesh7412 I prefer learning as I go instead of watching a video because it kinda ruins the experience in my opinion. Plus I always tell my party it's my first time and they always clear anything up if necessary.
@@Murasame13 yeah it's the same I do normally, watch a guide and say it's my first time doing it, or do it with a friend while on a voice chat so I can have a bit of support and/or orientation while doing it I still feel bad about going to my first dungeon without knowing what a tank stance is so I don't want to do that again to any party I encounter
@@ishisshusisusjki8274 Ugh. I hate how every time I go into a dungeon, I forget to turn my stance on, lmao! I'm starting to get the hang of it now, but it can be frustrating. I like to watch short guides so they don't ruin the dungeon for me, but still help my anxiety by showing me what to watch out for.
@@amberlovely1 yeah same! been trying to do dungeons without looking at video guides so I can get used to it tho when it's dungeons, and just warn that I'm new
I just look up a guide on what to do before the fight. Being a sprout white mage as well, staying alive and not messing up the mechanics for everyone is my main goal.
I never have issues as a healer here but Aurum Vale has seen many deaths due to tanks. The worst one was a tank who pulled the entire starting room into the boss room and also engaged the boss... needless to say we all died. I was Sage with a surgeon glam. I said "DAMNIT JIM IM A DOCTOR NOT A PHYSICIST" and the tank, he just 'courtesously bowed' lol
When you get in there as tank and the only thing the other tanks are able to do is provoke the living s*** out of the eye. You know that it's going to be fun -.-
Ah yes cloud of darkness, the boss where I play the the game "guess how many sprouts will be deleted by chasing lasers" you get bonus points if its more then the amount of times the spell is cast.
My first time I did world of darkness we wiped 10 times to Angra Maimyu and when we finally beat him I had to leave because my family was going out to eat for dinner. Never felt so bad in my life
As both a Tank and Healer main. . . I have no words, but never give up dear sprouts. Someday you will be able to clear a savage raid or maybe get an Alexander weapon then show off.
Honestly if people would just say what to do instead of expecting a new player to know what to do (what kind of logic is that) then these problems would drastically decrease
Last night was my first time through WoD , and I'm honestly surprised I dodged all Dooms my first time. No wipes either, although there were only 3 of us newbies (I think)
I feel your pain. I know the pain of being a healer in that dungeon SO well! At the very least you didn't die because tanks couldn't keep the eyeball monster in 1 position.
I just had a run like this last week. Took a full hour to clear since we wiped at the bat boss and everyone in my party kept looking at mortal gaze including my cohealer. Healing as a WHM that night was the best decision I made as I got rouletted there.
I still like parties of sprouts while healer, good training for anyone thats needing a refresher course in their job. Especially while queuing up for the Aurum Vale.
Sometimes being a healer feels less like healing and more like suicide prevention :D
C'mon now...how waz I to know that green glowing radioactive pool was deadly??? lol
@@Kayenne54 the orange circle isn't a buff circle?
I swear i will step out of the next one maybe but this time i need to finish the cast.
@@Syrzan86 Our optimism...sigh.
As a new player, and a Dragoon, I'm sorry in advance to anyone who has to scrape my ass off the floor.
"Sorry healers he kept killing me" is the purest way to complain about continually failing a mechanic i've ever seen
What's worse: he's not wrong. XD
I did labrynth with someone who said at the end "please give me comms for dying the most kthx"
@@skyelarbloo3979 I might have thrown him one just for his brazenness.
@@clintonwilcox4690 honestly same
Sprout keeps getting doom
Me: Dont look at the eye!!!
Sprout: BUT THE BOSS IS AN EYE!
Just a reminder: if you see someone struggle with mechanics, sprouts or not, it's always nice to help them through how they work :)
tbh I feel like more sprouts would survive the gaze if the game actually taught them the stuff like gaze and stack markers. Instead they kind of just sneak them in a dungeon or 2 and usually its still brute force-able... until its not and the sprout has no idea why because they never actually learned the mechanic so much as face tanked it.
@@andrewpulle315this
Like I would've never have known about this eye thingy if I didn't watch a guide beforehand lol
And the eye mechanic, I didn't even know about this and was always confused when I turned into a stone when others didn't in haukke manor... I only figured it iut after going through it couple of times through duty roulette
@@andrewpulle315 I used trust for pretty much everything possible in ARR and didn't figure out stack markers until Ultima Weapon lmao
@@LowIntSpecimen The last fight of Crystal Tower teaches you to stack stack markers, for the levitate.
I didn't learn that you're never again supposed to do that until the first stormblood alliance raid... Many a brave warrior of light got bonked to teach me this lesson.
The moment I saw so many people run off pads I'm like "oof, that's a wipe"
you'd think so, but the only wipe from this run was from Cloud oddly enough lol
I still have no idea what the pads do, though that's probably cause I haven't been in a group that's wiped on it yet. I just try to get in every circle that's not yellow tbh.
@@ShadMuffin if we're talking about the same pads (in the eye dude); if you happen to get the debuff doom from him, stepping on the pads removes doom for you :)
Yes, it's basically the same as it is in one of the early dungeons. Temple of Qarn, maybe? But I'd assume people also steamrolled through that dungeon by just frantically running around on every tile that's glowing
@@berdish11 Pretty sure this dungeon is optional.
Being a veteran is much like being a gardener, we have to constantly attend to the plants.
Great analogy. 👌👌👌
Ima be real with you, there wasnt that many sprouts in that raid D:
@@vanyel_etc8695 I know right one even have shb relic
and us sprouts thank you for it
cries, its true
To be fair, the Crystal Tower raids go from "ok there's that insta wipe ancient flare and meteors, but nothing else is really dangerous" to "there's literally nothing you need to do here but tank and spank and maybe not get killed by curtain call" to "HERE'S SOME ACTUAL MECHANICS BITCHES, YOU BETTER KNOW THEM ELSE YOU'RE DEAD AND THE RAID WIPES"
So it's little wonder this place is much harder on sprouts, especially if they make up a good portion of the raid
I have gone through crystal tower and didn’t know a single mechanic other the ancient flare
Especially in current year where the first two have been nerfed so much that the mechanics are kinda pointless now which puts you in a false sense of security when Raid 3 hits with all these mechanics in full force. I think it depends on the party explaining to sprouts what to do for specific bosses
Yeah, World of Darkness is almost as unforgiving as Dun Scaith. They're both rough on sprouts.
I have replayed world of darkness soo many times just to learn that one with the damn eyeball and I still die. I look away and everything. I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t think I’ll ever figure it out. the only boss I struggle with.
@@Squeaxx Its a lot going on in that fight. The big one is looking away from mortal gaze, theres also the platform lighting up with two different colors that you have to alternate standing on, theres the lamp things(I dont remember what theyre called) that you have to dps and i think an aoe called lvl 150 death or something you have to run out of. So its a lot to remember lol.
Never ever tell a sprout a terminology of the game. Use simple words like the pink/purple eye and then turn around. 90% of sprouts won't know what mortal gaze is.
Reading the cast bar is an essential skill.
@@NodeHF Yes but as for sprout they wont know what is what just by the name. I found to be more successful in using purple eye than game name.
And if you must drop a good hint at the beginning, please spell the word properly. Three out of four of us kept looking for "the Nail". Apparently we should have been looking for "The Tail". After two wipes we three just kind of figured it out. Even though the experienced person repeated "the Nail" at us again lol lol. And when I said "Tail! duh!" they may have thought I was being snarky at them, but no. Just figuring out for the first time that enemies are listed on the left of my HUD and Hey it said TAIL arrgghh...if only I'd looked two wipes ago, but it's a download data dump in the early daze. whoever the hint giver was, I wasn't snarking at you. Just face palming myself. When you know better, you do better.
@@Kayenne54 Sounds like the guy was having an episode of Ifrit PTSD and having flashbacks of people not killing the infernal nails.
@@duskblade1119 as a tank for the ifrit fight i had no idea how we wiped lmao but the dps took out the nail the second time. Love this game
When I fought Cerberus, I was told to destroy the adds...and I thought the gastric balls were adds you had to destroy...we wiped twice before someone was like "What chuckle keeps destroying the gastric balls??" and I was just... *sweats profusely*
Lol I just did this 😂
No one said not to just don't stand in it haha
been there 🤣 had no idea
People really overestimate how self-explanatory a mechanic is in dungeons they have been in plenty of times. Nothing about Cerberus is that obvious, maybe apart from "don't stand in front of him", which is just a general good advice for non-tanks in this game. And if there is any help, people often just write "A=Adds, B=Belly, C=Chains". Like.. how is this supposed to tell anyone anything who doesn't know about this already?
@@Sketchblopp It's been awhile, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did, ahahaha. I was lucky to even know what adds were at the time, lmao.
@@Sketchblopp I can't stand people who still do that, like bro if you're off tanking or are dps just go in
As a sprout, my favorite thing is when im mid-rotation and my brain goes "huh, everyone seems to have le-OHSHITINEEDTO HIDEBEH-too late"
THIS. I do this so often as a black mage since i just get tunnel vision on trying to press my buttons as fast as possible
The moment we had the influx of new players begin, my gut said 'make CT macros, or else'. And for once, I listened to my gut feeling, and made macros for all the important things. Holy crap they have saved us so many times skdjghsdkjghskd
ya i started doing that as i got tired of wipeing on stupid crap in game. i wont blam new players 100% of the time but if some one explations it to you and you still die i have no simtheny for you.
Oh that is cool to know that I'm not the only one who made text macros with explanations eventually. xD
its fun being a sprout and telling party you don't know mechanics and all you hear are crickets.
If you see a sprout in a raid or a dungeon with tricky mechanics please take the 2 mins to give a quick rundown.
I am still a sprout but I study what I'm getting into before I get into it. The sad thing is that I, as being a first time in the event myself, am typically the only one to explain to the other sprouts what is going on or going to happen. ☹️
It helps to ask for tips as well. Just because you are a sprout, doesn't mean we know you don't know what you're doing. If you ask then people will probably provide.
Excluding harder modes of normal content why on earth would you spoil your first time by watching other players complete the content first? Duty roulette rewards are hefty for a reason, we're helping fresh players. If we're after a somewhat guaranteed clear then we should queue as a pre-made or use party finder. It is a shame you have felt the need to research content before doing it therefore missing out on a real first time experience.
@@pasteldreams5413 sadly in my experience that is not the case and the most constructive piece of advice I get is 'don't die'. I do try and look up things before hand but sometimes I die to something I cannot fathom what it was and I will probably never know XD
@@lullylew9083 first time experience of what exactly? Messing up an encounter and possibly wiping the raid or being a massive burden to the healers? Any small pleasure to be had of "learning" something blindly does not outweigh wasting the time of 3+ people.
@@Karthunk By all means give new players a basic run down on a strat when you reach a boss but I wouldn't make them watch a video. That way they get most of the first time experience. You're not wrong, Karthunk we just have slightly differing perspectives and if we're both honest the game tailors to either with the use of party finder and duty roulette filters.
as a sprout, this was the dungeon that made me stop being a tank and switched to a dps (started out as a GLD/PLD and now I'm a DRG), it was my first time running this dungeon blind and I made mistakes and panics a lot, I got grilled afterwards by many other players from the other alliance, thus I dropped my sword and shield in exchange for a pole arms
I did the same thing. I didn't do this dungeon, but another one, I kept dying from Doom, without understanding. One person finally told me what to do and seemed a little upset. I felt so embarrassed, I logged out and didn't play for a few days. Then I picked up BLM. I got to level 23 before I went back to my WAR. Most people are super helpful and now I watch short dungeon guides to help.
Well looks like being a floor tank was your true calling all along
@@amberlovely1 When i started playing, I was a war too. FF was my first 3D online game. Up til FF i only played like..rpgmaker pixel games and card games. I was very confused cuz I found it hard to even walk, let alone tank XD A few times I got some very aggressive dps and one of my 'friends' told me that i should try playing a dps instead because he didn't think i could tank. I was feeling very sad and finally decided to try another class. I looked at other classes and thought 'hah maybe gladiator would be good?'. I picked it up, leveled it to 20 and then realized it was a tank too. Now I'm doing newest savage raids as warrior 8) I'd say it was destiny.
from tank stance to floor stance, welcome to the world of the drg
Im sprout myself, sometimes when i die because some mechanics of bosses witch i dont know feel bad for my team and thinking dam prob they hate me, but its silent in chat and they are ok and tell how it works, im surprised since in wow you will get kicked, bashed, shouted, glad i started ffxiv not coming to wow back for sure.
Don't feel bad; as you've seen, most of the time people will be understanding and be helpful towards you if you communicate that you're new beforehand. Glad you're enjoying the game!
Well i have been playing for about 4 month and now on stormblood msq. Lets just say that i already experience a lot of game mechanic. But when i back into dungeon level 35 dungeon as a tank idk that the bee can instant kill you if you not kill it first. My point is even though you already have a lot of experience you may miss one or two in this game and sometime make a mistake.but good thing is, the community here are willing to tell you what you must to do and usually a lot of them are pretty chill.
well i mean they get banned if they bash you for it. trust they bashing you in their fc or discord.
to get yelled at or kicked you need to do something so wrong multiple times without reading chat that it actually looks like griefing, like being an off tank and constantly provoke the boss and make him face the group over multiple boss fights.
Of course if people are in discord some will probably talk shit there but it rarely makes its way into group chat, the way roulettes are designed and the sprout symbol above new players heads, people are used to new players unlike wow
@@andrevieri1804 you can stun the bee btw when they cast Final Sting. XD
Also you can stun the raid Aoe of the first boss. You need a good timing and you can do only one stun before the next AoE but if you have a melee in party, basically you can avoid to get doom.
I learn this form a sprout, after 3k of hours btw. XD
Its easy to do stuff when you playing FF for years, but not that easy after 1 or 2 months ingame (at this time players enjoyng whole story stuff and dont actually focus on learning mechanics) Remember one thing, you were sprout too back in the day! And i bet you have also learned to avoid stuff and learned all bosses mechanics. So dont expect new players to know and learn everything in few days.
True, had a pretty bad run of the Orbonne Monastery where one alliance was full of newer players. Alliance B I think, and Alliance C would insult and tell them to leave if any of them died.
tru that probley took me almost a year to get stuff down when i first started and that was back when just stormblood was out.
@@DogInatutu i recently got into a dungeon as a new player myself, one guy asked me to leave because I was garbage (not too far from those exact words) and couldn't learn mechanics after 5 wipes. He was immediately votekicked by the rest of my party. It felt good
I was just getting massive lag spikes that didn't make it easy for me to dodge aoe's that day
I totally agree with you, some seem to forget this.
I got a little trauma playing tank coz some toxic dps 😅
More like only 1 though, but still its hit me
Trust me when I say that even when you get good at healing, this place doesnt get any less painful.
Last time I was in World of Darkness, we spent about an hour in the place. Wiped on the first eyeball boss 5x and every boss after that we wiped at least once. We had over 10 people brand new to the instance. It was painful but everyone stuck it out and pushed through to the end.
if it was around 2 months ago then i think we were at the same instance because that was exactly what happened to me that time and sorry i was one of the new sprouts lol very sorry about that
The sound of Feint Particle Beam thumping down is just Cloud of Darkness’ Timbs stomping on some plants
Also the number of times I’ve seen people get the order of steps wrong to get in Cerberus’ belly is definitely more than 1
my last run a guy said it was going really smoothly and it was but once we got to the last boss it all went downhill, and someone was like "you just had to say that"
It’s funny watching and hearing jaded “veteran” players get mad at a video game. As a “veteran” player in other games I’m always happy to see new players. I help them out when I can and understand there will be failures/wipes. Ffxiv has had a surge of new players because of another mmorpg mass exodus. It’s actually a good thing, the game won’t wither and die or have jaded “veteran” players only. That would be boring, life is about dealing with whatever comes your way. If you work or attend school things aren’t always easy, you need to adapt and move on. We were all new once…
You think that's bad? You should see Warframe Veterans and Planetside 2 Veterans. That salt is on another level.
that eyeball has caused many players agony and confusion. I'll never forget the sheer panic everyone felt as soon as they saw that doom buff and me as the healer felt the pain of throwing all my mp away to raising them
I do wish they changed it to the health based doom, or at least one you can esuna.
@@Jian13 I agree my main is white mage and things like doom are why esuna is considered useless
I had no idea the eyeball icon even meant anything, I thought it was just a cool visual effect. Took 2 wipes and a 5 min explanation for me to realize T_T
@@Murasame13 Yeah, FF14 doesn't do the best of job explaining LoS AoEs. Especially considering how important LoS AoEs become later on.
@@Murasame13 Yea I think it takes a while to figure it out honestly. That raid was the first time I payed close attention to buffs, so at least it taught me that those can be super important too XD
Big shoutout to the FFXIV community for not getting mad at me when I am a total scrub at a mechanic or boss and fail. For real. Y'all are the true heroes. I def wouldn't get this level of care in WoW
I've legitimately never seen so many dooms in one party on the first boss and.. a wipe to the last one. like wow that's a lot of people who don't know what they're doing! can't blame them too much of course, especially when they're new, but.. impressive.
ya it funny when it does happne the first week in july i had people sping that boss around and killing th whole raid or i would see half the raid get doom and just die makes it hard to rez 7 people of the party when you are the only one alive
With certain mechanics its totally understandable, its pretty easy to read most mechanics and kinda get a quick understanding but there are a few that are just wtf confusing if you dont read up on it even in the ez raids lol.
Reminds me of a run i had saved where i was the sole survivor of that alliance as a bard. Doom got 6 and the half/half room got the other one right after.
I love how you explain the mechanics of the first boss after you defeated him. Not. As many already said - just explain it with some simple words. We were all sprouts once before. So don't sigh and encourage them instead because you know the mechanics - they don't.
I was about to say, the dudes that say meow dont venture out of limsa unless theyre good at the game
I laughed way more than I anticipated:) nice vid!
This is WHY, people who calls themselves Veterans, should always give a heads up to these little sprouts. Trust me, I've been in bad raids and everytime we wiped and explained the mechanics after, the run went smoother. So yeh, it's easy to laugh and point out at the sprouts though but people have to keep in mind that players all learn at the different rate.
crystal tower become very fun lately :)) much wiped, such devastation
Had a lot of sprouts in recent higher level raids, and I'm not a dedicated raider. I know when to move, but I don't know attacks by name.
It's interesting watching the more experienced raiders quitting after one or two wipes. We get through it most of the time, and I've found a little humor and optimism goes a long way to help everyone keep going.
LMAO! This is probably one of the funniest things I've seen in weeks! And the opening commentary at the start had me laughing like a Jackal. I'm definitely going to have to check out more now. Thank you so much!
I love coming back to this video to see the memes on the RDM since he's one of my FC mates and I never let him live it down
Everyone knows their ABCs?
Ofc! Always Be Casting!
RIP alliance, none of them went into the belly
this is legit entertaining to watch! cant wait to see more
The first thing i do as a sprout whenever i get into a dungeon is mention that is my first time there, and usually people will explain strats or i do my runs with a veteran friend who got me into the game in the first place. Surprisingly my crystal tower runs went very well (with the exception of one time where people forgot to chain the dog) and people were very helpfull.
i loved this video so much holy crap. i felt this in my soul.
Personally i don't see the pains in just repeating a dungeon.. it makes it more enjoyable to see how a lack of organization can actually wipe 3 alliance groups.
Imagine the people malding over one instance yikes.
One absolute vegetable of a healer made 4 Mentors leave EX Titane one after the other.
No matter how many times we explained to NOT stand in landslide he was yeeted off at the first or second every single time.
Instant sub. The editing, the text, the sound effects. I'm rolling.... 🤣
It's the reply of "such devastation" that did it for me 🤣🤣
Watching this as someone who’s only ever played tank I have found new respect for healer mains
Ngl, this video acctually explained the angy eyeball to me and I now play it like a boss. Thankies c:
Normal Content. Among other reasons we are rewarded heavily for duty roulette because we will be partied with new players to help them clear content and to keep all content somewhat current. I would never deprive a new player of their first time experiencing a raid or dungeon by expecting them to watch other people play it on youtube or something first. Alas it can be frustrating when people aren't listening to advice and guidance during the run.
Just a note for uploading content of people displaying questionable performance, you might want to set your game so that it changes the way player names are displayed so no one can say you are naming and shaming. Fun video btw.
Yeah I've considered it, not necessarily to make me look less of a bully but to protect the people showcased from undue harassment.
For the record: I don't condone that sort of thing. Only I'm allowed to poke fun at people in my videos.
The meower was the best we had made me laugh, great vid!
loading into world of darkness seeing 6 Viewing Cutscenes, and the relief of being in alliance A
_half the party dying, cats Stone repeatedly_
Me too, man. Me too. It's that point where you're like, I don't know what to do, but I gotta cast something. Why? _Just gotta._
What a rare opportunity to experience they content how it was when everyone was new and under geared
I've genuinely never had a run go this bad, ever, that is a *LOT* of sprouts
I just did my first world of darkness run and wow it kept me in my toes a lot. I did watch a youtube guide about the mechanics before hand since I was a warrior and I unknowingly became the main tank of the entire raid so had a lot of pressure (5 headed dragon was relaxing since I just had to dodge 1 attack while the rest had to deal with his mechanics).
nothing hurts more than explaining mechanics and keeping the party alive and getting no comms - glad you were recognized and appreciated!!
I spent no joke 80 mins in the last EW dungeon, explaining the mechanics all the way and trying to keep the morale high. I had a fun time despite it all but gotta admit it stung I didn't get a single recommendation..........
@@mielikin me, the MT
twice i covered a reaper who kept dying to mechanics
had to use tank LB3 just to save the party from one mechanic
*no commends*
come on man, there were 7 other people
omg loved watching this please share more. also just 2 days ago i got cape westwind in my roulette and didnt notice i was the only non sprout in the party lol. nearly wiped had both tanks a heals and dps on the ground by the end
I personally don't see alot of these from the perspective of a fellow controller player. Nice video and commentary.
And I bid welcome to all sprouts.
My favorite is when people stand in the purple on Cerberus but don't shrink themselves and just get straight up murdered.
This was great. love your editing lol
i love this world of sprouts. The wipe made me feel satisfied.
Man, I had a good laugh 🤣 Reminded me of my time as a lil sprout. Great video 🤣👍🏻
my WoD run as a sprout:
1st time: I got carried hard. Didn't know what to do aside from some vague don'ts and dos.
2nd time: took more time since more than half were sprouts and were new but luckily there was someone that gave detailed instructions on what to do for each of the bosses. Also f*ck that eye.
3rd time and onward: I am doing it to admire CoD boobas
I always hear peter griffin in my head all "look at that side boob" and it makes me laugh Everytime.
Everyday I realize that I've missed so many mechanics that were happening and I just didn't realize. I was always confused by the cloud of darkness fight since it seemed like it never did much attacking besides the big lazer. Only now do I realize in the dozens of times I've done this raid I have never been targeted by feint particle beam and had no clue it existed. I thank my teammates for their sacrifice.
I used to fear runs like this.
Now it gives me joy to clear with sprouts.✨
( I also started making macros to explain bosses faster lol)
A: All in the belly
B: Belly
C: See you in the belly.
I brought the laser marker from the last boss to my team the first time I went to this raid. Instant wipe.
That's when I learned the difference between stack and target markers.
I relate to this so hard! 😂 Nice work!
Ah, this brings back memories…
that bonk caught me off guard, lmao
Even as a sprout myself, I always look up a guide to see the mechanics of a fight so I don’t drag my team down.
In this game if you state that it's your first time most people are gonna explain the mechanics to you
It's up to you obviously, but I feel like discovering a fight as you step in for the first time is an amazing feeling - even if I end up dying because I failed a mechanic
@@sheeeeeeeesh7412 I prefer learning as I go instead of watching a video because it kinda ruins the experience in my opinion. Plus I always tell my party it's my first time and they always clear anything up if necessary.
@@Murasame13 yeah it's the same I do normally, watch a guide and say it's my first time doing it, or do it with a friend while on a voice chat so I can have a bit of support and/or orientation while doing it
I still feel bad about going to my first dungeon without knowing what a tank stance is so I don't want to do that again to any party I encounter
@@ishisshusisusjki8274 Ugh. I hate how every time I go into a dungeon, I forget to turn my stance on, lmao! I'm starting to get the hang of it now, but it can be frustrating. I like to watch short guides so they don't ruin the dungeon for me, but still help my anxiety by showing me what to watch out for.
@@amberlovely1 yeah same! been trying to do dungeons without looking at video guides so I can get used to it tho when it's dungeons, and just warn that I'm new
Despite the considerable death toll, that run wasn't too bad.
More of these videos please. A sprout Dun Scath would be delicious 😋
Dun Scath is definitely big oof
I just look up a guide on what to do before the fight. Being a sprout white mage as well, staying alive and not messing up the mechanics for everyone is my main goal.
My first ever raid was world of darkness as a sprout white mage, I'm not saying I was terrible but the raid took over an hour
I forgot about those eye symbol and glowy pad mechanics. They were introduced in much earlier dungeons and quests.
I never have issues as a healer here but Aurum Vale has seen many deaths due to tanks.
The worst one was a tank who pulled the entire starting room into the boss room and also engaged the boss... needless to say we all died. I was Sage with a surgeon glam. I said "DAMNIT JIM IM A DOCTOR NOT A PHYSICIST" and the tank, he just 'courtesously bowed' lol
When you get in there as tank and the only thing the other tanks are able to do is provoke the living s*** out of the eye. You know that it's going to be fun -.-
This is me with Sage right now AFTER A YEAR OF PLAYING TANKS AND DPS. Dude I’m appreciate regular healers so much I thank them in chat after Rezs now.
"Kevin, Kevin, watch the light dude--watch the light!"
...
*dies*
I'm always glad the CT series was the ONE alliance raid i watched guides for in advance...
Ah yes cloud of darkness, the boss where I play the the game "guess how many sprouts will be deleted by chasing lasers" you get bonus points if its more then the amount of times the spell is cast.
There were also nonsprouts who didnt know the mechanics roflmao
I am that guy
Burger King Mentor screwing up Meteors in 2nd Coils4 like 5 times and then leaving after malding out flashbacks....
6:04 - Was waiting for this part. I expected as much...
World of Darkness [ＳＡＶＡＧＥ]
My first time I did world of darkness we wiped 10 times to Angra Maimyu and when we finally beat him I had to leave because my family was going out to eat for dinner. Never felt so bad in my life
As both a Tank and Healer main. . .
I have no words, but never give up dear sprouts. Someday you will be able to clear a savage raid or maybe get an Alexander weapon then show off.
"I can only assume I was broken at that point.."
My stomach XDDDD
Honestly if people would just say what to do instead of expecting a new player to know what to do (what kind of logic is that) then these problems would drastically decrease
Last night was my first time through WoD , and I'm honestly surprised I dodged all Dooms my first time. No wipes either, although there were only 3 of us newbies (I think)
The first time i did this fight i used pld, it actually went very well i somehow didn't die once thanks healers
30 seconds in and i feel called out for my greetings
I feel your pain. I know the pain of being a healer in that dungeon SO well! At the very least you didn't die because tanks couldn't keep the eyeball monster in 1 position.
Me when my friends don't tell me the mechanics for anything since it's my first time doing it and they want me to "experience it"
This is way funnier than I thought 😆
I like watching a fellow WHM controller user. \o/
It's not a truly bad WoD run until you see the add phase for the cloud of darkness fight
Ah yes, the floating eye of misery. My worst ever serial wipe was on that raid, and i have done Urth's Fount on duty finder
*stares*
THAT'S WHAT THE PADS ON ANGRA MAINYU DO?!
i like sprouts, it just feels nice when they learn mechanic
lol that was thoroughly entertaining! Im a new white mage & I hope I can do as well as you did!
I just had a run like this last week. Took a full hour to clear since we wiped at the bat boss and everyone in my party kept looking at mortal gaze including my cohealer. Healing as a WHM that night was the best decision I made as I got rouletted there.
This actually looks like a great run.
Wow..... such devastation. It fells like running savage raid
I still like parties of sprouts while healer, good training for anyone thats needing a refresher course in their job. Especially while queuing up for the Aurum Vale.
1:33 I could practically see the JoJo "menacing" letters on screen here, and "menacing" is an understatement.
This... is the funniest shit I've seen. As an AST main, I felt your pain within my soul at Angra's Doom mechanic, lol.