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The reason the AC240 seems compromised versus the AC200L is almost entirely because of the IP65 water resistance of the AC240. To prevent the ingress of water, and to do thermal management, mainly getting the heat out, the AC240 undoubtedly is a box-in-a-box design with the inner box sealed against water, with heat sink(s) on it's outside, encapsulated in the outer box with ventilation holes and watertight fan(s).
Hi Hobotech, i bought the ac200L and the bluetti pv420 that i just received yesterday. I didn’t even had the time and weather to test it. But i am certain it is very good. I like very much the ac200L, good capacity, good solar input, ups modes, wifi bluetooth, look small and solid but heavy of course with 2k lfpo4 battery, expandable with two b210 and useable with a transfer switch as home backup 120v. Good in the rv with the TT-30.. fast to recharge at 12amps standard. i think it is the best overall 2k solar generator today.
I knew it without testing it. It is not indicated anywhere that it was 240V. It was simply indicated 4800w. I immediately understood it was 4800w 120V. But people son’t read specs or doc nowadays.
@@CC-gt3ro Whether it says a wattage on it or not, using a standard 240V receptacle for 120V is not a good idea and will lead a lot of people to using it incorrectly.
Thx, exactly the info I was looking for. I really do wish Bluetti would put the 15 Amp wireless charger back on all items as well as lights. I've been holding back on purchases waiting for them to get back on board with the total package. Appreciate you so much! Thx again!
Anyone else wondering why the AC240 is so big for only 1500wh? I'm thinking they're going to offer a 2000+ WH model in the near future and use the same case as this one? Maybe @Hobotech will address this in the video.
I think it's a similar size to the Swapsolar, which has similar performance, but interchangeable batteries, but not the IP rating. Don't know why they couldn't have put both feature sets in one unit, myself. In some ways the AC200L is a slight downgrade (or, at least not an upgrade) to the AC200Max. I wonder if there will be an AC200Plus or something.
AC240 AC/DC charger is internal instead of external. The AC200p external charge adapter is bigger than an xbox 360 power adapter, has two not super quiet fans and did not hook on or stow easily. It charged the unit at ~500W in just over 2hrs which was impressive. The AC240 is currently plugged and charging at ~800W and I can't hear anything. The AC200p could be expanded but required the BLUETTI DC Charging Enhancer (D050S). You could have made an DIY connection to battery terminals and XT90 connector. But it looks like the AC240 has a lot more options for expansion, and parallel stuff. All of this stuff is IP65 rated, I'm sure it required more space to seal whatever could not handle splash and ocean breeze. Lost my AC200p in a tragic boating accident after many many months of flawless performance. Bought the AC240 to replace it. Time will tell whether I should have gotten the AC200Max instead.
@@arideoli ac240 is too heavy. 10 lbs more than the ac200L that i bought. And i cannot move the ac200L alone…ac240 has inferior solar input and inferior capacity standard. However you can connect 4 battery instead of two. But i prefer the ac200L for the weight.
Great review as always. I am underwhelmed by the specs on the AC240 compared to the AC200L. It’s 10lbs heavier, physically bigger with a smaller battery and only 60v on solar input. Also the lack of 240v as an option when using two units is disappointing. I’ve recently seen inverter generators that can now be paralleled OR series to give either 120v or 240v split phase. That option would be nice on these type of units. Thanks for a great review.
Yes, I have had 240 volt AC in a split phase hub for 2 years using Renogy 1000s. You have to have 2 units, each 1500 watts out and 998 WH capacity, connected to either a split phase hub (240) or a Single phase hub (120). They have performed as needed for my well pump. No one else seems to have anything close at that size and price point. I spent less than $1600 for the 2 units and the 2 hubs.
Thanks for another excellent overview, Tom. I took delivery of an AC200L recently and I have no regrets. I'm interested in knowing more about those B210 expansion batteries and that upcoming 48V DC interface. The AC240 has a couple of things I wish the 200L had, such as the ability to change key settings without a smart phone or tablet, and the weather-proofing is admirable. But I'm puzzled by the inclusion of the meager 60V MPPT circuit on the 240. And, yes, I hope we'll see right angle connectors coming from Bluetti sooner than later.
Bleed could be for blowing out moisture that builds up on surfaces, condensation. Usually you want to use an inert gas to prevent this. They use this on sensitive electronics enclosures or any other enclosure that has to endure rapid temperature changes susceptible to moisture/water.
I’ve been waiting for them to release a water resistant version of the 180 or 200 series for a while now, we do all our tests on a sailboat on the ocean so it makes perfect sense for the environment.. but like you I wonder why the 240 has increased in size and weight when most other manufacturers are becoming more compact and lighter weight, especially for only 1.5kwh capacity. I was hoping to see something more around an expanded AC180 at 1.5kwh keeping to about 45lbs in the same form factor with matching.expansion batteries, but I guess that’s not in the cards yet.. oh well, I look forward to possibly testing a 240 in the near future and see how it handles being sprayed with saltwater! 😊
Prof, I just received my Bluetti AC180 and was going through the paperwork. I noticed that the 5 year warranty only applies to products purchased directly from the Bluetti website. Purchases from third parties only get a 2 year warranty. I purchased mine from Amazon on a lightning deal for $520, but that only gets me a 24 month warranty even though Bluetti provided the product and the shipping. The paperwork also noted that I can apply for a "VIP" warranty to extend it. This is definitely worth mentioning in your Bluetti videos.
Great review. I have the 200L. I discovered that in the advanced charging mode if you set the charging say to 4 amps it will limited the charging. That might be where you mentioned that there was no difference between charging in the silent mode vs the standard mode. Set the charging value to the higher or default mode and the see if there is a difference between the silent mode vs the standard mode.
Sold my EB150 and needed a new unit. Weight was a deterrent from me purchasing the the AC240. If it weighed less or same as the AC200L, done deal. Bought the AC200L same price more watt hours.
Hmm, not sure if Marketing or Engineering are making design decisions at Bluetti, but they never seem to hit the mark. I have the AC200L but am still waiting for the D40 accessory 🤬. Though another YT tester messaged me saying that the D40 is NOT going to allow high draw DC like the 200Max and now the 240. Lame! Thx HT for another thorough review.
First off, thank you for the video and review, you are definitely a go to source for in-depth reviews and in my opinion the best set if bench tests for these portable generators. 240 volts is disappointing, but not incredibly surprising. Something I experienced with the AC300. Our input load was within 20W of our output load(we manually lowered the charging input to 5A because we were popping a shared breaker), ~500W. We noticed that the device was constantly switching back and forth between battery and passthrough as the draw fluctuated. Eventually all our devices lost power just long enough to reboot. We addressed this by either charging well above draw or well below draw which alleviated and power cycling of equipment. Would you be willing to perform a similar test this with the AC240? Yessss! 90 degree bends. Someone please make an adapter for us!
Please do some research on RV 50 amp outlets. They use a NEMA 14-50R. This design is correct for RVs. They use two legs of 120V 50amps to supply two sides of the power distrobution panel with 120V. Anything at 240V would fry an RV. The design is correct.
What a really great review. I really like the visual of the Sine wave tips being flattened as the load increased! So, I was initially pretty impressed with this IP65 Water Resistant Power Station. But there are some oddities such as the higher parasitic drain, solar voltage cap being 60v and I am also a little disappointed that it isn't getting the 90% storage mark. It would be an improvement to be able to parallel the device to get 240 vac. Price point ($/kWh) will be something to watch.
I was thinking about AC240 but I think that I am now sold on AC200L. My first Bluetti battery I bought AC60 because of IP65 I use my batteries for tent camping. I did buy AC2A that was a waste of money only good for phone charging. I recently got AC70 to run my bougerv fridge CRPRO 25 2 days total running time.I am going to try cable to connect AC70 to my B80 hopefully it works better. Till I get AC200L
Could you make a Solar Camping for Dummies? For those of who are tech challenged? All I really want to know, is how well will it power my little Sun-Lite camper and what would be the pitfalls.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I am troubled by those idle consumptions. Especially on the DC side. So on the 12v side, 16 watts/hour (over an amp) with no load. I wonder how bad that that gets under a 12v load? Wow. I am guessing that the 12v is a regulated output. Might be better off just having 1-2 standard 100ah 12v lithium batteries and running stuff directly off those.
Oh no😢😢😢😢😢 bluetti why 60 volts max on the solar? at the time we were expecting rise. Also the capacity why the drop from the 2048 wh. We are still waiting for the AC 200L here in South Africa 😢😢😢again no hope it will ever land in retailer’s shelves .
Have 3 EB 2400 Bluetti, although they are still selling these models, they no longer sell the circuit board necessary on one as it stopped working. I also invested in the Max 200 with additional battery. My concern is, they don't back up their older product models.
This market's moving so fast that "older" profucts get left behind. Batteries for the original Ecoflow Wave are now nonexistent and it's only about 3 years old.
Its a circuit board I'm willing to pay the 100% cost and probably just cents on the dollar to make, since they are still selling the eb 2400. For me, it's about a company that doesn't back their quality or brand name. It's a message of tough luck, warranty is over bye-bye sucker.
Nice! Hoped for a price of less than $900, but no dice. Not a fan of the proprietary cables and add-on options (reminds me of Apple). Heavy and 60 volt PV limit is too restrictive to reach 1200 advertised solar input. Not sure why Bluetti restricts the units to only 10 minutes in the rain or if you can have it hooked up to output power while in the rain? I like the B210 battery and could see a use for it separately. Thanks for the hard work and content, please keep them coming.
Hopefully the parallel combiner comes out in Australia. It has the port but no mention of support for it on the specs page. Given that it combines current rather than voltage, I can't. The PV Regulator accessory may be useful too but no sign of it in the store yet.
I bought the ac200L it is very good. I just received yesterday my pv420. I didn’t have the time to test the solar panel yet. But i like very much the ac200L. It is heavy but it has good capacity, good solar input, efficient at idle and in ac and dc mode, 20A outlet, 2400w 30A tt-30, very good screen with timer. Looks pro and solid. My wife and i like it a lot. And it is extremely silent. It don’t display low wattage though. My jackery 1000 is more adequate dor low wattage and inflate my tires with my air compressor and run the fridge 12v and charge low wattage as i can see precisely the input/output. But the ac200L is perfect for the kitchen and house backup to run all big appliances. I would’nt move it around. I simply can’t except by putting it on a tray but even with that you need to handle the stairs and i cannot. I am not strong enough so we were two to move it.
The UPS test if you really want to stress out the transfer time you should find the worst high power supply hold up time (ms) there are reviews for PC power supplies some of them don't even meet the standard which is >15ms. And then draw the maximum PC load (max gpu/cpu load) and then do the transfer.
@HOBOTECH do you know if you can charge the external battery with PV at the same time as the using PV on the AC240? It's fantastic that you can use the external battery independently.
I've just had shipping notification of the AU version so shall soon see how the 230V inverter does in terms of efficiency. Hopefully not so terribly. I wonder whether Bluetti are just limiting how much of the rated capacity we can use to protect the battery more than usual for its warranty.
I want to run my desktop Computer on a solar generator 24/7 with Solar & A/C plugged in at the same time. I want it to run on solar power but have the A/C power kick in if the battery gets too low. Can this unit (or any unit) do this??
dont think very many 50 amp rv's are running any 240 appliances /ac unless its custom built my understanding is that rv's that run a 50 amp service the load is just divided / split between the 120 poles like if a rv has 2 rooftop ac units one would be on one leg/pole and the other one is on the other side so it's combined in the plug yes but not ment to be combined to make 240 atleast not in 50 amp camper plug
I knew it would not do 240V It's only 4800 watts combined that's enough for 30a at 120V but not 240 Technically you should be able to get 240v at 20amps though
Why doesn’t anyone have a charging port and cable to connect the 240v/30a output found on most gas generators? This would allow people to efficiently and quickly charge the battery packs when needed.
I think Montek X1200 is a better deal 🤔 It's way smaller and lighter, more convenient form factor and cheaper. The only downside compared to Bluetti is a little bit smaller battery. Thoughts?
Anybody know if the smaller 330watt generators have an additional companion extention battery pack? I've seen them available for the bigger generators. I'd love to add a modular extra battery to mine to get extra value for the investment I already made.
Anyone have any idea when the AC240P is likely to be released? That offers 20% more battery capacity at 1,843Wh vs 1,536Wh so seems worth waiting for that one if it's out before this summer when I need it.
Hey HOBO!! Love your tech savy videos. Are there any portable power stations that are made in the USA? I hear that Bluetti customer service is terrible.
There are no "made in the USA" power stations. That wouldn't remedy the service issues anyway as it would just be outsourced to Asia. Everyone complains about the smallest stuff and that's all you hear nowadays. Bluetti has similar service as the other major brands.
With the solar limitations, is it possible to charge the expansion B210 from a separate array/or DC at the same time(while connected together in a camper)?
Such an awesome unit but like anker they make it a no go with that 65 volt nonsense. I will stick with other brands that you can actually charge with solar. To much of a headache that shouldn't be.
Thanks for this other review, but I have a question! it is written in the user manual (5.4 AC240 Power Station) To charge both the AC240 and B210 simultaneously, connect the two units using the battery expansion cable provided. Then, plug the AC240 into a standard wall outlet.) it is the same thing with AC200L ?
Why not do the UPS test with a program running on the PC. Now all we see is a static desktop. Seeing if a running application, a game would be a real test, will not be affected would be a real test.
@@HOBOTECH Windows is the Operating system. I am refering to an application with some movement in it, like a game, or a browser showing something like a UA-cam video running....maybe a Hobo review! That way you could see any hesitation or stoppage. With just the Windows desktop running, it might have frozen up by the switch in input power and we wouldn't know it.
@@HOBOTECH Hmm... so, yea, it is running and to your point, you are absolutely right. Although thinking about it, the possibility of "freezing" the OS is there, so it kind of makes sense. You can run Cinebench or perhaps some gaming benchmark for cpu during your test to Max out the CPU too...
Nice review very interesting I have the 200 L and the 420 panel could you run another 200 panel Can they both work together or do you have to have another 200 panel thank you
He's got a community post about the latter, and isn't keen. Solarlab said all but 3 of the AC outputz stop working when it's AC charging! Bizarre behaviour.
Theses fancy Battery Box's are getting confusing. HAHAHAHAHAH One thing that caught My Eye was the locking Cig socket Connector ?? never seen one of those before.
@@HOBOTECH Well, its the perception... it doesn't take much to run a cpu heavy game benchmark or Cinebench in the background... You can't please everyone... but the effort to have a high cpu load running is fairly low at a few button presses (minus the initial 1 time download and install).
@@HOBOTECH yes but just like you assumed putting two of them together would get you 240 volt, I did the same when I heard the name and that it was able to be set in parallel!
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The reason the AC240 seems compromised versus the AC200L is almost entirely because of the IP65 water resistance of the AC240. To prevent the ingress of water, and to do thermal management, mainly getting the heat out, the AC240 undoubtedly is a box-in-a-box design with the inner box sealed against water, with heat sink(s) on it's outside, encapsulated in the outer box with ventilation holes and watertight fan(s).
Hi Hobotech, i bought the ac200L and the bluetti pv420 that i just received yesterday. I didn’t even had the time and weather to test it. But i am certain it is very good. I like very much the ac200L, good capacity, good solar input, ups modes, wifi bluetooth, look small and solid but heavy of course with 2k lfpo4 battery, expandable with two b210 and useable with a transfer switch as home backup 120v. Good in the rv with the TT-30.. fast to recharge at 12amps standard. i think it is the best overall 2k solar generator today.
Agreed. The AC200L is a win.
I would say you assumed correctly regarding the 240V output. They built it wrong.
Hopefully you have prevented some customers from being disappointed.
I knew it without testing it. It is not indicated anywhere that it was 240V. It was simply indicated 4800w. I immediately understood it was 4800w 120V. But people son’t read specs or doc nowadays.
@@CC-gt3ro You've got better eye's (or better screen than me. I could not see or did not notice the "4800".
@@CC-gt3ro Whether it says a wattage on it or not, using a standard 240V receptacle for 120V is not a good idea and will lead a lot of people to using it incorrectly.
This is a huge faux pause IMO.
Thx, exactly the info I was looking for. I really do wish Bluetti would put the 15 Amp wireless charger back on all items as well as lights. I've been holding back on purchases waiting for them to get back on board with the total package. Appreciate you so much! Thx again!
Thank you for the link and $100 off, just scooped this heavy thing to throw in the back of my covered truck bed 🤣
Anyone else wondering why the AC240 is so big for only 1500wh? I'm thinking they're going to offer a 2000+ WH model in the near future and use the same case as this one? Maybe @Hobotech will address this in the video.
I was wondering the same thing, looks huge for that capacity
I bought the ac200L and pv420 solar panel, which is to my opinion, better (lighter and more capacity and solar input) than the ac240 for my needs.
I think it's a similar size to the Swapsolar, which has similar performance, but interchangeable batteries, but not the IP rating.
Don't know why they couldn't have put both feature sets in one unit, myself.
In some ways the AC200L is a slight downgrade (or, at least not an upgrade) to the AC200Max. I wonder if there will be an AC200Plus or something.
AC240 AC/DC charger is internal instead of external. The AC200p external charge adapter is bigger than an xbox 360 power adapter, has two not super quiet fans and did not hook on or stow easily. It charged the unit at ~500W in just over 2hrs which was impressive. The AC240 is currently plugged and charging at ~800W and I can't hear anything. The AC200p could be expanded but required the BLUETTI DC Charging Enhancer (D050S). You could have made an DIY connection to battery terminals and XT90 connector. But it looks like the AC240 has a lot more options for expansion, and parallel stuff. All of this stuff is IP65 rated, I'm sure it required more space to seal whatever could not handle splash and ocean breeze.
Lost my AC200p in a tragic boating accident after many many months of flawless performance. Bought the AC240 to replace it. Time will tell whether I should have gotten the AC200Max instead.
@@arideoli ac240 is too heavy. 10 lbs more than the ac200L that i bought. And i cannot move the ac200L alone…ac240 has inferior solar input and inferior capacity standard. However you can connect 4 battery instead of two. But i prefer the ac200L for the weight.
Great review as always. I am underwhelmed by the specs on the AC240 compared to the AC200L. It’s 10lbs heavier, physically bigger with a smaller battery and only 60v on solar input. Also the lack of 240v as an option when using two units is disappointing. I’ve recently seen inverter generators that can now be paralleled OR series to give either 120v or 240v split phase. That option would be nice on these type of units. Thanks for a great review.
Yes, I have had 240 volt AC in a split phase hub for 2 years using Renogy 1000s. You have to have 2 units, each 1500 watts out and 998 WH capacity, connected to either a split phase hub (240) or a Single phase hub (120). They have performed as needed for my well pump. No one else seems to have anything close at that size and price point.
I spent less than $1600 for the 2 units and the 2 hubs.
Thanks for another excellent overview, Tom. I took delivery of an AC200L recently and I have no regrets. I'm interested in knowing more about those B210 expansion batteries and that upcoming 48V DC interface. The AC240 has a couple of things I wish the 200L had, such as the ability to change key settings without a smart phone or tablet, and the weather-proofing is admirable. But I'm puzzled by the inclusion of the meager 60V MPPT circuit on the 240. And, yes, I hope we'll see right angle connectors coming from Bluetti sooner than later.
Same here. I just purchased the AC200L, next purchase the B210..
Bleed could be for blowing out moisture that builds up on surfaces, condensation. Usually you want to use an inert gas to prevent this. They use this on sensitive electronics enclosures or any other enclosure that has to endure rapid temperature changes susceptible to moisture/water.
I’ve been waiting for them to release a water resistant version of the 180 or 200 series for a while now, we do all our tests on a sailboat on the ocean so it makes perfect sense for the environment.. but like you I wonder why the 240 has increased in size and weight when most other manufacturers are becoming more compact and lighter weight, especially for only 1.5kwh capacity. I was hoping to see something more around an expanded AC180 at 1.5kwh keeping to about 45lbs in the same form factor with matching.expansion batteries, but I guess that’s not in the cards yet.. oh well, I look forward to possibly testing a 240 in the near future and see how it handles being sprayed with saltwater! 😊
definitely would be great to have the right angle on the battery expansion cable instead of straight
Prof, I just received my Bluetti AC180 and was going through the paperwork. I noticed that the 5 year warranty only applies to products purchased directly from the Bluetti website. Purchases from third parties only get a 2 year warranty. I purchased mine from Amazon on a lightning deal for $520, but that only gets me a 24 month warranty even though Bluetti provided the product and the shipping. The paperwork also noted that I can apply for a "VIP" warranty to extend it. This is definitely worth mentioning in your Bluetti videos.
Yep, that's why I say buy direct using my link. Otherwise you don't get the full warranty.
I am happy with my AC200L 😊
I like the water proof feature. Would be great for camping.
Nice review. But when showing closeups of the screen, set your camera to manual exposure and focus. It was ‘hunting’ for the best settings.
Need to add a smart switch to the ups test. The AC180 had trouble with that kind of ups application.
Great review. I have the 200L. I discovered that in the advanced charging mode if you set the charging say to 4 amps it will limited the charging. That might be where you mentioned that there was no difference between charging in the silent mode vs the standard mode. Set the charging value to the higher or default mode and the see if there is a difference between the silent mode vs the standard mode.
Sold my EB150 and needed a new unit. Weight was a deterrent from me purchasing the the AC240. If it weighed less or same as the AC200L, done deal. Bought the AC200L same price more watt hours.
Hmm, not sure if Marketing or Engineering are making design decisions at Bluetti, but they never seem to hit the mark. I have the AC200L but am still waiting for the D40 accessory 🤬. Though another YT tester messaged me saying that the D40 is NOT going to allow high draw DC like the 200Max and now the 240. Lame! Thx HT for another thorough review.
First off, thank you for the video and review, you are definitely a go to source for in-depth reviews and in my opinion the best set if bench tests for these portable generators.
240 volts is disappointing, but not incredibly surprising.
Something I experienced with the AC300. Our input load was within 20W of our output load(we manually lowered the charging input to 5A because we were popping a shared breaker), ~500W. We noticed that the device was constantly switching back and forth between battery and passthrough as the draw fluctuated. Eventually all our devices lost power just long enough to reboot. We addressed this by either charging well above draw or well below draw which alleviated and power cycling of equipment. Would you be willing to perform a similar test this with the AC240?
Yessss! 90 degree bends. Someone please make an adapter for us!
Please do some research on RV 50 amp outlets. They use a NEMA 14-50R.
This design is correct for RVs. They use two legs of 120V 50amps to supply two sides of the power distrobution panel with 120V.
Anything at 240V would fry an RV.
The design is correct.
Was wondering if you were going to do a HoboTech review on this one. Thanks before i even watch it…..
What a really great review. I really like the visual of the Sine wave tips being flattened as the load increased!
So, I was initially pretty impressed with this IP65 Water Resistant Power Station. But there are some oddities such as the higher parasitic drain, solar voltage cap being 60v and I am also a little disappointed that it isn't getting the 90% storage mark. It would be an improvement to be able to parallel the device to get 240 vac. Price point ($/kWh) will be something to watch.
I was thinking about AC240 but I think that I am now sold on AC200L. My first Bluetti battery I bought AC60 because of IP65 I use my batteries for tent camping. I did buy AC2A that was a waste of money only good for phone charging. I recently got AC70 to run my bougerv fridge CRPRO 25 2 days total running time.I am going to try cable to connect AC70 to my B80 hopefully it works better. Till I get AC200L
Thanks HOBOTECH!!!! Again, you have convinced me in buying a Blueitti as opposed to another Brand
19:00 I've read an UPS rated unit for PC should be
Can you test Anker solix c1000?
Could you make a Solar Camping for Dummies? For those of who are tech challenged?
All I really want to know, is how well will it power my little Sun-Lite camper and what would be the pitfalls.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I am troubled by those idle consumptions. Especially on the DC side. So on the 12v side, 16 watts/hour (over an amp) with no load. I wonder how bad that that gets under a 12v load? Wow. I am guessing that the 12v is a regulated output. Might be better off just having 1-2 standard 100ah 12v lithium batteries and running stuff directly off those.
Oh no😢😢😢😢😢 bluetti why 60 volts max on the solar? at the time we were expecting rise. Also the capacity why the drop from the 2048 wh. We are still waiting for the AC 200L here in South Africa 😢😢😢again no hope it will ever land in retailer’s shelves .
Have 3 EB 2400 Bluetti, although they are still selling these models, they no longer sell the circuit board necessary on one as it stopped working. I also invested in the Max 200 with additional battery. My concern is, they don't back up their older product models.
This market's moving so fast that "older" profucts get left behind. Batteries for the original Ecoflow Wave are now nonexistent and it's only about 3 years old.
Its a circuit board I'm willing to pay the 100% cost and probably just cents on the dollar to make, since they are still selling the eb 2400. For me, it's about a company that doesn't back their quality or brand name. It's a message of tough luck, warranty is over bye-bye sucker.
Nice! Hoped for a price of less than $900, but no dice. Not a fan of the proprietary cables and add-on options (reminds me of Apple). Heavy and 60 volt PV limit is too restrictive to reach 1200 advertised solar input.
Not sure why Bluetti restricts the units to only 10 minutes in the rain or if you can have it hooked up to output power while in the rain?
I like the B210 battery and could see a use for it separately.
Thanks for the hard work and content, please keep them coming.
Hopefully the parallel combiner comes out in Australia. It has the port but no mention of support for it on the specs page. Given that it combines current rather than voltage, I can't. The PV Regulator accessory may be useful too but no sign of it in the store yet.
Great Power Station Without Being So Heavy To Carry!
That's a hefty box... I'll go with the 200L thanks for all the great contents!
I bought the ac200L it is very good. I just received yesterday my pv420. I didn’t have the time to test the solar panel yet. But i like very much the ac200L. It is heavy but it has good capacity, good solar input, efficient at idle and in ac and dc mode, 20A outlet, 2400w 30A tt-30, very good screen with timer. Looks pro and solid. My wife and i like it a lot. And it is extremely silent.
It don’t display low wattage though. My jackery 1000 is more adequate dor low wattage and inflate my tires with my air compressor and run the fridge 12v and charge low wattage as i can see precisely the input/output. But the ac200L is perfect for the kitchen and house backup to run all big appliances. I would’nt move it around. I simply can’t except by putting it on a tray but even with that you need to handle the stairs and i cannot. I am not strong enough so we were two to move it.
The UPS test if you really want to stress out the transfer time you should find the worst high power supply hold up time (ms) there are reviews for PC power supplies some of them don't even meet the standard which is >15ms. And then draw the maximum PC load (max gpu/cpu load) and then do the transfer.
Could you test the dual ac240’s on an. Rv? You’re the only channel i have seen with two of them. I Would really like to see what they can do together.
@HOBOTECH do you know if you can charge the external battery with PV at the same time as the using PV on the AC240? It's fantastic that you can use the external battery independently.
I've just had shipping notification of the AU version so shall soon see how the 230V inverter does in terms of efficiency. Hopefully not so terribly. I wonder whether Bluetti are just limiting how much of the rated capacity we can use to protect the battery more than usual for its warranty.
I want to run my desktop Computer on a solar generator 24/7 with Solar & A/C plugged in at the same time. I want it to run on solar power but have the A/C power kick in if the battery gets too low. Can this unit (or any unit) do this??
Funny thing is in my country which is nothing but 240 volt, all the Bluetti's output you guessed it!! 240 volt!
Single phase 50hz vs split phase 60hz. Ours requires special hardware.
dont think very many 50 amp rv's are running any 240 appliances /ac unless its custom built my understanding is that rv's that run a 50 amp service the load is just divided / split between the 120 poles like if a rv has 2 rooftop ac units one would be on one leg/pole and the other one is on the other side so it's combined in the plug yes but not ment to be combined to make 240 atleast not in 50 amp camper plug
I knew it would not do 240V
It's only 4800 watts combined that's enough for 30a at 120V but not 240
Technically you should be able to get 240v at 20amps though
probably my favorite all in one available.
I think it was Ben Franklin that first coined the term "you can over amp but you can't over volt".
Right before he got electrocuted...
Why doesn’t anyone have a charging port and cable to connect the 240v/30a output found on most gas generators? This would allow people to efficiently and quickly charge the battery packs when needed.
Making popcorn now!
I think Montek X1200 is a better deal 🤔 It's way smaller and lighter, more convenient form factor and cheaper. The only downside compared to Bluetti is a little bit smaller battery. Thoughts?
The Montek also has a ridiculous solar controller that has a 150 volt limit. Much better than this things 60 volt limit.
Anybody know if the smaller 330watt generators have an additional companion extention battery pack? I've seen them available for the bigger generators. I'd love to add a modular extra battery to mine to get extra value for the investment I already made.
It's named the 240 but it does not output 240VAC? What the heck?
So with other words, if waterproof is what you need, you’ll have to accept inferior (it’s relative) performance compared to the AC L.
Did they ever come out with any accessories for the 48 volt output on the AC200L?
Now I can make toast and dry my hair while taking a bath.
Bleed valve for flying or use at high altitude?
You can buy 2 delta 2's for this same starting price, or a delta 2 and its additional battery upgrade refurbished?
Anyone have any idea when the AC240P is likely to be released?
That offers 20% more battery capacity at 1,843Wh vs 1,536Wh so seems worth waiting for that one if it's out before this summer when I need it.
Whan using a heating blanket is it normal for the wattage to go up and down 10 watts .. or hurt it.. EF del 2 max.
What can you power with a usb c? 100 watt??
Hey HOBO!! Love your tech savy videos.
Are there any portable power stations that are made in the USA? I hear that Bluetti customer service is terrible.
There are no "made in the USA" power stations. That wouldn't remedy the service issues anyway as it would just be outsourced to Asia. Everyone complains about the smallest stuff and that's all you hear nowadays. Bluetti has similar service as the other major brands.
Tesla Model Y road trip, which do you recommend, Bluetti AC200L or Jackery 2000 plus? why is Bluetti almost $800 cheaper than Jackery?
Jackery is overpriced gohobo.io/ac200l
how long does it take to charge AC200L with Bluetti 240w solar panel? I can't find it on their website,@@HOBOTECH
With the solar limitations, is it possible to charge the expansion B210 from a separate array/or DC at the same time(while connected together in a camper)?
Yes
will you test the allpowers R2500 and the anker f-2000?
I wonder what the power drain is like without the Wifi and Bluetooth turned on
Such an awesome unit but like anker they make it a no go with that 65 volt nonsense. I will stick with other brands that you can actually charge with solar. To much of a headache that shouldn't be.
Jus caught this one.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
Still above my pay grade.
Thanks for this other review, but I have a question!
it is written in the user manual (5.4 AC240 Power Station)
To charge both the AC240 and B210 simultaneously, connect the two units using the battery expansion cable provided. Then, plug the AC240 into a standard wall outlet.)
it is the same thing with AC200L ?
The AC200L needs a special cable to use B210s.
I thought for sure you were going to put that thing in a barrel of rice!😅
i hope you can help me out i called bluetti and they told me i can''t use a foldable bluetti solar panel and charge my car batteries. is that correct.
You can't charge a car battery with ANY solat panel. You must use a charge controller.
I take it that this is no use in Eu/UK where it's 240V...?
No idea what the EU division does.
@@HOBOTECH Thank you...
Hallo Prof Funny good power generator❤❤
Please review the anker solid
No cup holders?
Bluetti vs Anker? i can't decide anymore
Why not do the UPS test with a program running on the PC. Now all we see is a static desktop. Seeing if a running application, a game would be a real test, will not be affected would be a real test.
Windows is a running program...
@@HOBOTECH Windows is the Operating system. I am refering to an application with some movement in it, like a game, or a browser showing something like a UA-cam video running....maybe a Hobo review! That way you could see any hesitation or stoppage. With just the Windows desktop running, it might have frozen up by the switch in input power and we wouldn't know it.
@@HOBOTECH Hmm... so, yea, it is running and to your point, you are absolutely right. Although thinking about it, the possibility of "freezing" the OS is there, so it kind of makes sense.
You can run Cinebench or perhaps some gaming benchmark for cpu during your test to Max out the CPU too...
Nice review very interesting I have the 200 L and the 420 panel could you run another 200 panel Can they both work together or do you have to have another 200 panel thank you
You can but it might not provide much more power.
@@HOBOTECH Thank you Very much
Hi Doctor HOBO
I am about to buy an AC200L. Do you have a discount code I can use? thanks
Check the AC200L video.
@@HOBOTECH I did and tried that code but it doesn't work anymore :'( Thanks for answering! Hi!
Professor, can you test the Anker SOLIX C1000 and F3800?
He's got a community post about the latter, and isn't keen.
Solarlab said all but 3 of the AC outputz stop working when it's AC charging! Bizarre behaviour.
Yep, not wasting my time. I tell folks come to my group for Q&A.
it's funny that's it's called AC240 but it only puts out 120 volts of AC...
Why is it funny? The AC180 doesn't output 180v or the AC200 200v...
Professor can you tell me if grid power is pure sine wave or not. Thanks
Mention that early in the video.
So it’s larger but has less power and uses more power if it’s just sitting there on. Pass!!
I’m more confused than ever now 😕
sales is going cracy a whit coat and clubs now you have to believe he knows it all
wrong just a sales person
Finally
BLUETTI PLEASE SEND ME ONE !!! 😅
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Lol😂how did it pack in an extra 10 pounds well McDonald reintroduced menu items lol😂
50A RV outlets are never 240v
They are split phase 240v (120v each leg) in the USA.
Theses fancy Battery Box's are getting confusing. HAHAHAHAHAH
One thing that caught My Eye was the locking Cig socket Connector ?? never seen one of those before.
60 volts solar input? Pathetic.
way too heavy..they need t ostart lowering the weight, just dont see people contuing to buy these heavy monsters
The plug is misleading but I see they are trying to capture the RV market. But. 😢
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replacing a computer because some people don't understand a thing. it's the new norm is it not? old i feel. old old.
Yet, still being told it's not good enough...
@@HOBOTECH good for you Hobo. I'd have not been so accommodating. then again I have nothing to loose.
@@HOBOTECH Well, its the perception... it doesn't take much to run a cpu heavy game benchmark or Cinebench in the background... You can't please everyone... but the effort to have a high cpu load running is fairly low at a few button presses (minus the initial 1 time download and install).
I'd think a modern desktop might actually be more "proofed" against a "blip" in power than a tired old laptop with no battery
You are doing a TOP JOB , thank you. @@HOBOTECH
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Bluetti dropped the ball. Why call it the ac 240 when you can't do 240 volt!?!
The AC180 doesn't output 180v or the AC200 output 200v...
@@HOBOTECH yes but just like you assumed putting two of them together would get you 240 volt, I did the same when I heard the name and that it was able to be set in parallel!
@@HOBOTECH also thinking a solar gen would output 180 or 200 Volts is absurd!?!
Did you just say double Big Mac. I'm out of here.