Miyazaki vs Miyazaki

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  • @Dan_Kanerva
    @Dan_Kanerva 6 місяців тому +4268

    is really hard to choose, but i vote for Miyazaki

    • @TheGreatestTerrariaPlayerEver
      @TheGreatestTerrariaPlayerEver 6 місяців тому +152

      Miyazaki is way better!

    • @boocolo1046
      @boocolo1046 6 місяців тому +25

      God damnit i hate it when ppl like you says thing like that ! have you even Seen the video ?

    • @Dan_Kanerva
      @Dan_Kanerva 6 місяців тому +22

      @@boocolo1046 funny enough, i wanted to talk bout what might have changed Hayao's personality to make him soo cynical. But then i remember, maybe if i say the dum best thing ever i will make someone laugh

    • @jacobdoswalt
      @jacobdoswalt 6 місяців тому +7

      I don't know man... Miyazaki is sooo much better

    • @luckyadrian100
      @luckyadrian100 6 місяців тому +1

      Which Miyazaki?

  • @Deatheater4444
    @Deatheater4444 6 місяців тому +3068

    Hayao Miyazaki: Work is bright and shiny and optimistic; is a miserable old pessimist. No poison swamps.
    Hidetaka Miyazaki: Work is gritty, post-apocalyptic dark fantasy; seems to be an upbeat, happy dude. All of the poison swamps.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 6 місяців тому +411

      Hayao is indeed miserable, i genuinely don't enjoy the movies knowing how negative he constantly is, he's a stuck up old bag of sadness.
      Hidetaka is the biggest Gigachad in the games industry, he's a very chill and happy guy, doesn't care if others criticize him/his work or try to imitate his work down to T.

    • @JellyJman
      @JellyJman 6 місяців тому +88

      Honestly it’s very interesting how they are so different yet have such different outlets

    • @darkvulpes4826
      @darkvulpes4826 6 місяців тому +231

      ​@@detectivemadoka69420 it's pretty similar how people was comparing Hayao to Junji Ito, like how he seems such a goofball in comparison to his grotesque and relentless stories.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 6 місяців тому +15

      @@darkvulpes4826 Exactly.

    • @lucienarcos-palma3834
      @lucienarcos-palma3834 6 місяців тому +8

      You guys never saw grave of the fireflies

  • @sued_
    @sued_ 6 місяців тому +1886

    Feet man vs "Anime was a mistake" Truly one of the matchups of all time

    • @NeedsContent
      @NeedsContent 6 місяців тому +196

      I know who Quentin Tarantino would side with.

    • @etinarcadiaego7424
      @etinarcadiaego7424 6 місяців тому +7

      Me and Joss Whedon concur. Still hate the man, though lol I'm a burgeoning creator and random pointless foot focus is a part of my work. I mean, storytelling and quality comes first of course.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 6 місяців тому +61

      Now that's just reductive.
      He also probably likes size difference and definitely likes princes(ses)

    • @ettertarten
      @ettertarten 6 місяців тому +61

      poison swamp man

    • @debatenothing5676
      @debatenothing5676 6 місяців тому

      Not enough feets

  • @jonaswest6993
    @jonaswest6993 6 місяців тому +1792

    My favorite part is that Miyazaki is a pretty common name but as foreigners we only really know of these two

    • @evagand
      @evagand 6 місяців тому +168

      There’s also the guy who recently created the vaccine capable of extending the lives of cats

    • @juromori
      @juromori 6 місяців тому +22

      There's the serial killer too unfortunately

    • @grugmangaming5152
      @grugmangaming5152 6 місяців тому +104

      @@juromori It's a expectant thing for incredibly common names, such as with the name John. Johns in history have been saints or killers.

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop 6 місяців тому +17

      Yeah it’s basically like John Dunne vs John Locke.

    • @jeremygardner5987
      @jeremygardner5987 6 місяців тому +1

      John Dee 😩

  • @viniciuspurezaribeiro7298
    @viniciuspurezaribeiro7298 6 місяців тому +1525

    without a doubt Miyazaki would win

    • @aidas52
      @aidas52 6 місяців тому +3

      Which one?🙂

    • @emilschneider467
      @emilschneider467 6 місяців тому +9

      Ah yes, the ambiguous answer

    • @happy_vanilla_latte
      @happy_vanilla_latte 6 місяців тому +2

      On god

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y 6 місяців тому +3

      I don’t know dude; I’m pretty sure Miyazaki would beat him.

    • @aaronwinrock8164
      @aaronwinrock8164 5 місяців тому +1

      Stoop... You're too funny...

  • @eidolon9767
    @eidolon9767 6 місяців тому +1312

    I still always find it funny how the man who creates movies full of hope and childlike wonder is incredibly grumpy, hard, and pessimistic. The one who makes worlds full of suffering, despair, and unimaginable horrors is a kind, humble, and childlike man.

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop 6 місяців тому +297

      Honestly, I think that’s part of what makes Hidetaka’s work so good. The worlds he makes aren’t grimdark out of pessimism, they’re like. That to serve the themes of triumph in the face of impossible odds. I honestly think that Hidetaka Miyazaki is one of the best game directors out there for making theme, setting, and gameplay work together.

    • @merlinkater7756
      @merlinkater7756 6 місяців тому +90

      It's such a wonderful example of just because someone's work looks depressing, doesn't mean they are depressed. And the other way around! The contrast between the two Miyazaki's is to great, it's kinda funny. They are like diametric opposites.

    • @mahtimonni97
      @mahtimonni97 6 місяців тому +56

      Also look up: Junji Ito!
      Just an adorable cinnamon bun of a person!
      Who also created Uzumaki!

    • @Xx_SuperPenis_xX
      @Xx_SuperPenis_xX 6 місяців тому +2

      you guys should stop putting this image of both of them in your heads smh
      you don't know either of them how they appear of the screen or how the media presents could be entirely different to how they actually in day to day life

    • @Sir_Fres
      @Sir_Fres 6 місяців тому +2

      he's hard?

  • @VioletSilence
    @VioletSilence 6 місяців тому +760

    Damn, some of those Hayao's quotes look exactly like he played too much Dark Souls.

    • @ASmartNameForMe
      @ASmartNameForMe 6 місяців тому +146

      Hayao gonna be the next crestfallen warrior

    • @ThisIsPampkin
      @ThisIsPampkin 6 місяців тому +89

      @@ASmartNameForMe now that you mention it, "Hayao the Crestfallen" sounds like an actual NPC in Souls if it has a strong Japanese Theme.

    • @DX197able
      @DX197able 6 місяців тому +19

      ​@@ThisIsPampkin Imagine that being one of Sekiro's NPC's name 👀

    • @madnight1553
      @madnight1553 5 місяців тому +3

      i like your comment and thumbs up it too. but tbh playing hidetaka's game actually makes you more hopeful and positive because its teach you every obstacle can be bested as long as you gitgud

    • @VioletSilence
      @VioletSilence 5 місяців тому +4

      @@madnight1553 Playing the game - maybe, apart from most of NPC sidequests which almost always end in their demise
      Exploring the lore, however, can be unbearably dark

  • @merlinkater7756
    @merlinkater7756 6 місяців тому +376

    Hayao feels like he would be a character in one of Hidetaka's games

  • @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
    @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy 6 місяців тому +403

    Hidetaka Miyazaki said he wanted to make games that captures his experience of playing 1980s PC RPGs in English when he didn’t speak the language, and those RPGs were obscure even if you spoke English. You could easily get locked out of completing and keep playing for months without realizing it.

    • @dev4159
      @dev4159 6 місяців тому +11

      wasn't it books ?

    • @mahtimonni97
      @mahtimonni97 6 місяців тому +44

      I've heard the same about old fantasy movies.
      In any case, I find it interesting how the soulsborne games have this very "jamais vu" feel to them. In a sense that they feel like "western" sword fantasy, made by someone with a different cultural background. Something familiar, but also new and strange.

    • @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
      @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy 6 місяців тому +6

      @@dev4159 yeah for sure. I read about his thought on old CRPGS but it definitely has to be books too. He definitely knows the genre tremendously.

    • @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
      @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy 6 місяців тому +2

      @@mahtimonni97 100% true. I’m a huge reader of fantasy and sci Fi more than a gamer, but these games fascinate me to no end.

    • @garstrum4401
      @garstrum4401 6 місяців тому +11

      @@mahtimonni97 I really dig that about Dark Souls etc, and Elden Ring. The 'typical' Medieval Europe setting, with a lot of themes of godliness/divinity (that feel vaguely Christian at times with the cathedrals etc, especially in Demon's Souls where the deity is just called "god"). But through a Japanese lens. Bloodborne as well, that Victorian/gothic setting but through a Japanese lens. It's just... artistically striking? Idk how to describe it.

  • @JoeKing69
    @JoeKing69 6 місяців тому +321

    Hidetaka's games are bleak and oppressive but contain an underlying theme of hope and self-overcoming.
    He understands that there is nothing more profound than hope in the face of overwhelming hopelessness.

    • @bungiecrimes7247
      @bungiecrimes7247 6 місяців тому +25

      The other guy just hates his son, that's it.

  • @Capewearer
    @Capewearer 6 місяців тому +451

    Do you know that Miyazaki is translated as "toxic swamp"? That explains his love to swamps in any games.
    Do you also know that Miyazaki's father beated his son with belt, but delayed his attacks, so son couldn't avoid them with rolling? That's why he tried to parry, but whiplashes can't be parried.

    • @j0nnyism
      @j0nnyism 6 місяців тому +56

      Bet he varied his attacks and added lots of flurry’s as his son got older. “Learn from this son, you’ll thank me when ur older”

    • @Capewearer
      @Capewearer 5 місяців тому +26

      @@j0nnyism he never forgot to pour belt with rotten pine resin: "Use a pine resin to slay a mighty foe, my son!".

    • @magitrop5336
      @magitrop5336 5 місяців тому +14

      Few people know that one day Miyazaki finally learned to evade and memorized all of his father's patterns. Then his father started to deal ten times more damage, frantically rush around the room and also use fast combos mixed with delayed attacks. However, the father knew it isn't enough to surprise his son, so all his belt attacks have gained an area damage in case Miyazaki decided to roll behind him. And even when Miyazaki thought he can drink some Fanta safely, father's belt attack instantly reached him across the room.

    • @sophisticatedbear3374
      @sophisticatedbear3374 5 місяців тому

      No miyazaki is translated as shrine cape. 宮 (miya) meaning "temple, shrine, palace" and 崎 (saki) meaning "cape, peninsula".

    • @Capewearer
      @Capewearer 5 місяців тому +5

      @@sophisticatedbear3374 you're definitely not familiar with concept of humour.

  • @Connor-073
    @Connor-073 6 місяців тому +472

    As a dark souls veteran (abuse victim) I vote for Hidetaka. (I’m biased af)
    Edit: I’ve indirectly started a war.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 6 місяців тому +58

      He creates some very dark worlds, but at least he is a very chill happy man unlike the constant misery and pretentiousness of Hayao.

    • @CatwhiskerPurr
      @CatwhiskerPurr 6 місяців тому +6

      @@detectivemadoka69420 create? more like borrow and stealing from Berzerk. Overrated and overhyped Director

    • @dev4159
      @dev4159 6 місяців тому +82

      @@CatwhiskerPurr womp womp

    • @Chicken-do1tt
      @Chicken-do1tt 6 місяців тому +67

      @@CatwhiskerPurr womp womp

    • @jekila2149
      @jekila2149 6 місяців тому +71

      @@CatwhiskerPurrevery piece of art is inspired by something one way of another idiot

  • @jmssun
    @jmssun 6 місяців тому +248

    Hayao Miyazaki is like my mother, brought me up to the man I am with wondrous joy and PTSD…
    Hidetaka Miyazaki is like my wife, accompanies me as the man I am with wondrous joy and PTSD …
    The two most important women in my life

    • @thebatman-lr1sq
      @thebatman-lr1sq 6 місяців тому +29

      Hayao “hates his son” Miyazaki

    • @Nostre38
      @Nostre38 6 місяців тому

      ​@@thebatman-lr1sq I read that their relationship is better nowadays.

    • @Takinu
      @Takinu 6 місяців тому +18

      Man, I wish Hidetaka Miyazaki was my wife…

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Takinu He doesn't have time for relationships. He needs to make games.

    • @waldemarliech
      @waldemarliech 2 місяці тому +2

      WHAT HE'S MY WIFE

  • @mmyr8ado.360
    @mmyr8ado.360 6 місяців тому +198

    Both of them are passionate in their work, but they are also men of their own times. Hayao saw ruin and prosperity in the aftermath of WW2, and Hidetaka saw prosperity and ruin through the near end of thr Showa period and the market crash of the 90s.
    Also Death's Door is clearly inspired by both men.

    • @Xindacator
      @Xindacator 6 місяців тому +20

      Death’s Door is a pretty fantastic game ngl

    • @jajasking9652
      @jajasking9652 6 місяців тому +3

      I had that Game in my backlog played It this year and It currently is the biggest surprise of the games i've played this year, such a good game

  • @ryuichimiyazaki5620
    @ryuichimiyazaki5620 6 місяців тому +156

    As a Miyazaki, I am on the side of Miyazaki

    • @HimePenguin
      @HimePenguin 6 місяців тому +15

      I'm sure Ryuichi is a pretty good Miyazaki as well

    • @eticket48
      @eticket48 6 місяців тому +7

      All Miyazaki’s are absolute legends

    • @zelven6109
      @zelven6109 4 місяці тому

      Oh my god its miyazaki

  • @viniciuseduardobomfim
    @viniciuseduardobomfim 6 місяців тому +70

    *Hidetaka Miyazaki:*
    • Shows up randomly, one year after the DLC was announced
    • Drops an insane trailer that features Queen Marika's feet
    • Refuses to elaborate and leaves immediately
    A true chad 🗿

  • @nickoliekeyov746
    @nickoliekeyov746 6 місяців тому +458

    I’ve heard Hayao has a very… 'strong' personality and can be kind of unpleasant to work with and is a harsh parent. Idk if I’ve ever heard anyone say anything bad about Hidetaka. He seems to just be a lil guy.

    • @-coffeecat1590
      @-coffeecat1590 6 місяців тому +144

      He like feet haha

    • @LtCdrXander
      @LtCdrXander 6 місяців тому +125

      He's just a lil' guy 🥺

    • @revengance4149
      @revengance4149 6 місяців тому +87

      @@-coffeecat1590 apparently he was to embarrassed to show Malenias feet in phase 2. makes you think that if it wasn't for that would Malenia have had legs instead of prosthesis?

    • @revengance4149
      @revengance4149 6 місяців тому +64

      I mean the guy sees a zombie crawling with his head and his first reaction is "what a insult to life itself" while I thought that was the funniest shit I saw all week. at least he is overly serious.

    • @MrFRNTIK
      @MrFRNTIK 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@revengance4149she has one leg right? That's enough for me

  • @NTokugawa
    @NTokugawa 6 місяців тому +446

    i think h. miyazaki wins

  • @aliekexie8467
    @aliekexie8467 6 місяців тому +117

    Never could finish Miyazaki's work from start to finish, always drop off, just not for me. But Miyazaki's work is great, my favorite still replaying it constantly.

    • @xlgapelsin6173
      @xlgapelsin6173 6 місяців тому +21

      I think we both agree Miyazaki is cooking

    • @nickpapadopoulos9978
      @nickpapadopoulos9978 5 місяців тому +3

      I agree on spirited away, because I have watched the start of the movie back when I was a little kid were my parents bought a dvd copy from the supermarket but I don't want to finish it even today because I personally just didn't like were he was going with the plot and story, so i haven't touched that movie since then and i am in twentys!

    • @duongquan4986
      @duongquan4986 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nickpapadopoulos9978 Same , all my friends say how good it is and me fell asleep every time i give it a try.

    • @nickpapadopoulos9978
      @nickpapadopoulos9978 3 місяці тому +1

      @@duongquan4986 and after watching the video, it reinforced my belief that this movie it's just not worth my time

  • @mightynoob45
    @mightynoob45 6 місяців тому +170

    i have 700 hrs in elden ring and everytime i see a friend playing they have stuff ive never seen

    • @minerman60101
      @minerman60101 6 місяців тому +45

      Spiritcaller snails have a grab attack where they jump on you and bite at your head

    • @pistacchio1373
      @pistacchio1373 6 місяців тому +29

      The boss fight in the magic city of caelid the boss with the two "hammers" when at low Life and alone changes his weapon to a double shield that can t be obtained

    • @DestructoVic
      @DestructoVic 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@minerman60101 What 😂

    • @swag_tortoise
      @swag_tortoise 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@pistacchio1373 which boss are you referring to? i can't recall anything like that

    • @screamthesecond3946
      @screamthesecond3946 6 місяців тому +13

      @@swag_tortoise nox swordstress and nightmaiden located in the town of sellia

  • @edwartvonfectonia4362
    @edwartvonfectonia4362 6 місяців тому +54

    In terms of inspiration, have you noticed that like 40% of the games that was revealed during Summer Game Fest was pretty "Souls-like". And now every good game of 80 score and up has this gameplay mechanic.

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 6 місяців тому +2

      No

    • @Hyde_Lawrence
      @Hyde_Lawrence 6 місяців тому +18

      I mean, elden ring sold millions and millions, many companies want some of that cake. Of course there is influence but a lot of them are just greedy companies jumping on the trend. 90% of those games are going to be shit, look at lords of the fallen.

    • @shreksmeatballs9435
      @shreksmeatballs9435 6 місяців тому

      Not only that, but it seems the majority of GOOD 3rd person RPG games nowadays are also soulslikes. Lies of P is a good example, that's GOTY for me and it's heavily inspired by Bloodborne and Sekiro.

    • @01-aleriorayyaarifaisal91
      @01-aleriorayyaarifaisal91 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Hyde_Lawrenceme laugh with copy of lies of p and crab souls

  • @Str0ngSad
    @Str0ngSad 6 місяців тому +105

    i was getting scared there might be a tie, fun video. Both these dudes are goat but Hayoa is def an a hole/absent father/degrading/perfectionist from the docs that have come out. I will never not love his work though

  • @steviegilliam5685
    @steviegilliam5685 6 місяців тому +134

    weirdly i get tolkien vs frank herbert vibes from this

    • @genericcatgirl
      @genericcatgirl 6 місяців тому +34

      That's actually really accurate

    • @tobynhiatt2381
      @tobynhiatt2381 6 місяців тому +34

      Funny thing is one of them despises Tolkien a lot. And it ain’t Hidetaka

    • @Whyisthisathing825
      @Whyisthisathing825 6 місяців тому +2

      Holy s*** you're right

    • @soulless_jake540
      @soulless_jake540 6 місяців тому +1

      You arent wrong

    • @solus48
      @solus48 6 місяців тому +18

      ​@@tobynhiatt2381 i remember seeing Hayao's take on Tolkien and thinking it couldn't be anything other than a deep misunderstanding of the message and themes of Tolkien's works

  • @tryctan2399
    @tryctan2399 6 місяців тому +52

    i reaally was 100% expecting for you to give both the same description

  • @ziziorens348
    @ziziorens348 6 місяців тому +28

    To the point of both of them having personalities that are opposites of their work (grumpy pessimistic Hayao making wonderous and happy stories and jolly, positive Hidetaka making ruined, decaying worlds with the faintest glimmer of hope imaginable), I always like to bring up the phenomena of fandoms acting in the same way. Fandoms for happy, colorful media are often ruthless and depraved (Steven Universe, MLP), while fandoms for dark and horrible things are often positive and joyful (Fear & Hunger being a great example)

  • @potatomo9609
    @potatomo9609 4 місяці тому +2

    When Miyazaki was beaten as a child, the belt was swung with a delay so that he would not dodge, everyone knows that. But few people know the continuation of this great story.
    One day, Miyazaki adapted to this, memorized all possible belt frames, and no longer took damage. But his father did not lose his head, and spent 2 years trying to surprise his beloved son again. Now he dealt 10 times more damage with a belt, jumped like crazy all over the room, and also used quick combinations of punches (mixed with the good old delays), which made Miyazaki's eyes did not have time to focus on him. But the father knew that this alone was not enough to surprise his son, so now his belt always caused damage to the area, in case his son wanted to roll over his back. And even when Miyazaki thought he could safely drink his bottle of fanta, the belt attack took him across the room.
    These memories inspired Miyazaki so much that he dedicated an entire DLC to his game Elden Ring to this.

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman9263 6 місяців тому +19

    I am hurting at the missed mention of Bloodborne.

  • @pitbulxdeaa
    @pitbulxdeaa 6 місяців тому +57

    Hayao is little misunderstood tho. Because even tho he says grim stuff what he really means is that the world is corrupted, like for example that quote about Manhattan, he just says that all of this monetary system is fake and the worst kind of people chase money and build these abominations like Manhattan to showcase their false god. And he just says that he would like to see that to transform to original form where there is nature and peace. Also that quote about anime being mistake be says that in the context of anime that he makes is really expensive and for many many years they were barely breaking even, also the process itself is really draining and Hayao is really involved into his projects, so considering his age I think he is just tired of this work, and just making normal movies would be easier, cheaper and probably at the end making more money.

    • @loulou3881
      @loulou3881 6 місяців тому +12

      I think it still comes off as highly judgmental to say those kind of things. Some of the things he says feels like the rumbling of an old man who only sees things as black or white and choose to shut himself down to any kind of changes. Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion and obviously nothing is wrong with him saying what he feels. But I don't know, saying these things this way is definitely not inspiring at all for me. That's okay though his work is highly inspiring!

    • @makkern5965
      @makkern5965 5 місяців тому +3

      @@loulou3881 I don't really think the quotes were meant to be inspiring though, but I like the manhattan quote. It's really cynical but I think it's equally hopeful in a way.

    • @duongquan4986
      @duongquan4986 3 місяці тому

      Hayao looks to me like an tired old craftman spent too much time to perfect his creations and then forget to have fun in the process.

  • @ForzenHorizonZero4down
    @ForzenHorizonZero4down 5 місяців тому +22

    In childhood, Hidetaka Miyazaki was beaten by his own father, who slowly swung his belt, not allowing son to dodge. And when Miyazaki tried to drink water, his father threw objects at him. When Miyazaki memorize to his father's patterns and movesets, the father was not at a loss and began to jump madly around the room, from wall to wall, pirouettes and beating his son, stretching out the belt attacks for a long range without giving a chance to dodge.

    • @treebusettt
      @treebusettt 5 місяців тому +4

      it's more like Hayao story .. based on his behavior & thoughts 😂

    • @treebusettt
      @treebusettt 5 місяців тому +2

      Serious. My life since I was kid was dark, pessimistic, chaotic, temperamental... and I really liked Hayao's work because it was colorful, symbolizing optimism etc.
      That's because I've life like "the tarnished one" since i was kid

    • @jonathanjoestar9317
      @jonathanjoestar9317 4 місяці тому +3

      Miyazaki was so inspired by his father to a point where he made a boss almost exactly like him, his name is Margit

  • @lev1athan763
    @lev1athan763 6 місяців тому +6

    As a souls simp who hasn't seen more than 1 Hayao movie I see this as an absolute win

    • @suave605
      @suave605 6 місяців тому

      you definitely should, try howls moving castle. While they’re nothing but childrens movies, the atmosphere and art in it is truly something worth while.

    • @Capewearer
      @Capewearer 6 місяців тому

      Porco Rosso is definitely one of the good movies.

  • @yea.probably
    @yea.probably 6 місяців тому +52

    “80 hours of gameplay” I’m on 600+ and 2 days ago I found a new weapon, in a new dungeon, from killing a new enemy. Studio Ghibli movies are amazing and the amount of detail and passion in every frame is astounding. But the fact that every step in Elden ring feels so full of life, with a quantity of 600+ hours… I can’t act like this isn’t an unfair comparison

    • @yea.probably
      @yea.probably 6 місяців тому +5

      Also dark souls 3 boss designs are infinitely better than any character studio Ghibli had designed I don’t care what anyone says, the bosses are all way too cool and iconic.

    • @Hyde_Lawrence
      @Hyde_Lawrence 6 місяців тому +4

      You realize that you can say that about something like skyrim? If you ask any veteran of the franchise the strong point of fromsoftware games nobody will tell you "that weapon i found after 600 hs" sorry but this is shitty take.

    • @glatykoffi6672
      @glatykoffi6672 6 місяців тому +1

      Well that was 600 hours of going in circles with the occasional branching away, it really ain't that long lived of a game

    • @ayatan2147
      @ayatan2147 5 місяців тому

      Yea i was in disbelief when he said that he only finished it in 80 hours, like can you even say you have played it?

  • @JacoB-wp4ws
    @JacoB-wp4ws 6 місяців тому +32

    damn, lupin III is truly the most underrated anime in the west, lupin III part 1 cour 2 is his first directorial debut as series director, and lupin III: castle of cagliostro is his first movie ever made and this movie is very influencial across the world, lupin III is the first seinen anime that was oriented towards adult and the movie influenced pixar as a whole as well with their formula of movies being influend by castle of cagliostro, and without lupin there would be no cowboy bebop anime as well since Shinichiro Watanabe said that his inspiration for this series was first part of lupin III

  • @N1GHTSTRIKER-45
    @N1GHTSTRIKER-45 6 місяців тому +12

    Poison Swamp Man Vs "Anime Is A Mistake" Man
    Truly One Of The Most Matchups In History Of All Time.

  • @MrBeep
    @MrBeep 6 місяців тому +7

    Hayao: fuck you but in movies
    Hidetaka: fuck you but in video games

  • @vico-comedy
    @vico-comedy 6 місяців тому +6

    If i had a penny for any time a man named Miyazaki revolutionized his industry, i would have ... something something phineas and ferb reference.

  • @thijs6439
    @thijs6439 6 місяців тому +3

    hidetaka miyazaki is just such a nice man i love his work everytime he wins a award i have a big smile on my face

  • @dimitrisuricato
    @dimitrisuricato 6 місяців тому +28

    Hayao's childhood and teenage years are the reasons why he's like that. Imagine living through the nukes and all the post war period, with the country and its people in complete shambles. Peak humanity degradation, no wonder he wishes to be away from it

    • @ryanlozano9086
      @ryanlozano9086 5 місяців тому +4

      Not to mention his father beat him with the belt made it slow so he couldn’t dodge and when Hayao memorized the patterns his father jump from place to place to beat him up even made sure he couldn’t dodge his attacks

  • @Choooobo
    @Choooobo 6 місяців тому +51

    2:04 You spelt it incorrectly. It should have been: "one of the biggest ARTORIAS in the gaming industry".

    • @soulless_jake540
      @soulless_jake540 6 місяців тому +7

      "THE SPREAD OF THE ABYSS MUST BE STOPPED"

  • @baeber
    @baeber 6 місяців тому +77

    Michael Zaki

    • @rookie9028
      @rookie9028 6 місяців тому +23

      Hideous take michael zaki

    • @Beeschurger_
      @Beeschurger_ 6 місяців тому +28

      Hide your tacos Michael zaki

    • @blithesome_mage
      @blithesome_mage 6 місяців тому

      michael sucky

    • @8megabytes0
      @8megabytes0 5 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@Beeschurger_
      Heated taco Michael zaki

    • @ethan82714
      @ethan82714 4 місяці тому

      @@8megabytes0 He did talk a Michael's zaki

  • @LostWallet
    @LostWallet 6 місяців тому +5

    suprising how someone who creat hopeful and inspiring movies and animation can be quite pessimistic, while somone who made some of the darkest and hopeless story in videogame is among one of the brightest, optimistic and happy people.

  • @AlteredVisioned
    @AlteredVisioned 6 місяців тому +19

    Miyazaki: If he was at full power, he might give me a little trouble.
    Me: But would you lose
    Miyazaki: Nah I'd win

  • @yourmourningstar
    @yourmourningstar 6 місяців тому +7

    Ironic that the guy whose worlds are full of child-like wonder and eye candy can have such a dour outlook on life, while the guy who made Bloodborne is surprisingly optimistic and wholesome.

  • @HANIMEME
    @HANIMEME 6 місяців тому +16

    Tarnished Archeologist mentioned!!

  • @Supergn0me
    @Supergn0me 4 місяці тому +1

    "You can tell whos good and whos bad" That's a bold claim, sir

  • @BaphomentIsAwsome666
    @BaphomentIsAwsome666 5 місяців тому +1

    Hayao is an artist through and through, the more I learned about him the more I respect the man. He has a code of ethics that he fallows not what's hot or trendy, had a long life and saw a lot of horror.

  • @dignelberrt
    @dignelberrt 6 місяців тому +3

    I want the next Soulsborne world to be written in partnership with Hayao Miyazaki this time. Two opposing philosophies joining together to make this world could be interesting.

  • @cymikgaming1266
    @cymikgaming1266 6 місяців тому +16

    Myazaki:lord of the poison swamps vs Myazaki the man who made Spirited Away

  • @GODHAND42
    @GODHAND42 6 місяців тому +8

    Big fan of both, but you’re selling Hayao short on the first point. There’s a ton of thematic depth in even his most simple, childish movies and he’s pretty unique in how he breaks traditional story structure and character dynamics. You’d be benefited by watching them and focusing on more than the surface narrative

  • @ben99ny69
    @ben99ny69 6 місяців тому +11

    I really wouldn't agree with "The Works" section of Hayao miyazaki. His works aren't targeted towards kids. Characters aren't easily separated in good or bad such as Eboshi, Howl, Baba, Jiro, etc. His themes are very prevalent but also subtle. Such as envitomental or consequences of techonogical advancements. Despite not growing up with his films, no other film gives me nostalgia or magical feeling than his films.
    He's also the co creater of Ghibli and, while there are other directors like Isao, he is the biggest contributer of its success. Studio ghibli is considered the equivalent of pixar or Disney (Though this is more coporate). Studio Ghibli is recognized worldwide.

  • @jeanclaudethedarklord6205
    @jeanclaudethedarklord6205 6 місяців тому +32

    Both are goated but 1 is known to be a shitty father

  • @corrinflakes9659
    @corrinflakes9659 6 місяців тому +30

    I think I give Works to Hayao for variety. While there are core feelings to what makes his work feel like Hayao Miyazaki, Nausicaa, My Neighbour Totoro, and the Boy and the Heron feel very different to each other. Where in Hidetaka’s case, there are a lot more parallels in his stories, sometimes a bit too much. The world of decay can only feel fresh so many times.

    • @marcellorossilermen2997
      @marcellorossilermen2997 6 місяців тому +26

      Sekiro's story felt fresh to me, it didn't rely so much on the decaying world narrative

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul 6 місяців тому +8

      @@marcellorossilermen2997dragon rot: am I a joke to you? 😢

    • @midir1326
      @midir1326 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@xXLunatikxXlul yes.
      "Cures dragon rot with a single dragon scale."

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul 6 місяців тому +2

      @@midir1326 the dragon scales are a finite resource iirc. Also, we are talking about the story and how the theme of decay is present through *all* Fromsoftware’s games, lol.

    • @midir1326
      @midir1326 6 місяців тому +6

      @@xXLunatikxXlul that may be true, but Sekiro is also the only fromsoft game that you can stop the cause of Dragon rot.

  • @mamogas12
    @mamogas12 6 місяців тому +23

    Fun fact:hidetaka myazaki doesn't want to make learning the lord difficult,he just doesn't know how to do it(this is confirmed)

  • @oliverhill9466
    @oliverhill9466 6 місяців тому +9

    Great video. You deserve way more than 90 subs.

  • @DinChaddle
    @DinChaddle 6 місяців тому +6

    Hidetaka Miyazaki beats the shit out of you because he loves you

  • @kanseidorifto2430
    @kanseidorifto2430 6 місяців тому +11

    I honestly expected for there to be a death battle between the two and we'd see their irl stats and feats to see which is more likely to win

  • @srsymon
    @srsymon 5 місяців тому +1

    7:00 Hidetaka's stories aren't "deep", they are cryptic. There is a difference. Cryptic stories can be good, but I don't think you should call them deep. Hayao's stories on the other hand are actually really deep. I don't know where you got the idea that his stories aren't deep but I strongly disagree. His movies deal with subjects like war, conflict, human struggle, climate change, industrialization, rapid unsustainable urbanization and a plethora of other complicated issues. I don't think most children would be able to understand these messages.
    And it is a shortcoming on your part that while comparing their works, you just mentioned storytelling and not the other aspects of both of their works. That would actually result in a more logical win for Hidetaka, but if you compare only storytelling, Hayao clearly wins.
    13:01 Well this quote of his is perfectly on par with the subject matters of his movies. He made it pretty clear in his movies how much he hates rapid urbanization and industrialization so of course he would want Manhattan to collapse.

  • @Grasses0n
    @Grasses0n 6 місяців тому +2

    Really goes to show the ones trying to project so much happiness are the ones suffering the most. I mean just look at Robin Williams. Most people that suffer try to cover up their pain with happiness. Some people embrace it and learn from it, and become better people as a result. I think that's the biggest difference between these two men. Everyone suffers. It's just all about how you choose to deal with it.

  • @Pluto._Jy
    @Pluto._Jy 6 місяців тому +13

    The Nameless king

  • @BigChungusGuru
    @BigChungusGuru 5 місяців тому +1

    Give this man more subs UA-cam, this video went way over the view count he probably expected it to.

  • @eethanl
    @eethanl 6 місяців тому +4

    I have 1,200 hours in eldenring, there are still some places I stumble upon that I've never seen

  • @seanbhagwandeen802
    @seanbhagwandeen802 6 місяців тому +2

    When the day comes when either of these men pass I will rewatch every studio ghibli movie and replay the souls games

  • @maidenless_tarnished
    @maidenless_tarnished 6 місяців тому +3

    If a crossover ever happened between these two it would be magical

  • @somebody4094
    @somebody4094 5 місяців тому +1

    Hayao Miyazaki probably competes only against Walt Disney for the role of greatest animator and innovator in the history of animation

  • @Ex-memegodita
    @Ex-memegodita 6 місяців тому +3

    Loved the films of Miyazaki, loved the games of Miyazaki, it's hard to choose between Miyazaki and Miyazaki, but I honestly love Miyazaki more because of the things that his art gives to you and also because he loves my country, so Miyazaki is the final choice.
    Yes, I've decided to use just the last names for the meme and for confusing you and no, I will not tell which one I'm referring to.

  • @ManFromThePits
    @ManFromThePits 6 місяців тому +10

    I don't really have a strong opinion. I love Dark Souls, and Elden Ring is great, but I don't know much about Hayao Miyazaki. Until now, I didn't know much about Hidetaka Miyazaki. I suspect Hayao is a better person than we hear about, but I'm pretty much won over by what I've heard about Hidetaka. Aside from that, I'm neutral.

  • @PRatnCave
    @PRatnCave 6 місяців тому +1

    It took me 3-4 hours of lore videos to understand that i don't need any of it to enjoy the wild ride

  • @Speartopia
    @Speartopia 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a theory, that the majority of Miyazaki's films are more connected then we think. With multiple species of animals and similar architecture showing up in different movies. While you could say that its down to creative creative similarities. The inclusion of the fox squirrel kind of breaks this idea.
    The fox squirrel shows up in, Kiki's delivery service, obviously nausica, castle in the sky, tototdo, the cat returns, poco roco, princes mononoke,
    I believe the time line is this.
    Mononoke, howls moving castle, poco roco, Kiki's, cat returns, nausica, castle in the sky, then tototdo (set in the present).

  • @Kodama666
    @Kodama666 6 місяців тому +2

    i relate this to something i see in music often, hayao is like the arctic monkeys of music, a master of their craft to be sure, but with hooks for the masses. Meanwhile hidetaka is like the guitarist for some avant garde technical death metal band with 7 minute long solo's and 600 different 1/8th notes a minute all arpeggiated perfectly, but the only people who love it are people who are already in the community (metal nerds for this example)

  • @RedHornSSS
    @RedHornSSS 6 місяців тому +11

    The way Hayao Miyazaki treats his son just can't make me have any personal respect for him

  • @elwen8525
    @elwen8525 5 місяців тому +2

    Hmmm I feel like hiyos work is a lot more deep than just kids movies. They all talk about war and people trying to survive in it.

  • @FrankJaeger803
    @FrankJaeger803 6 місяців тому +5

    I grew up on the Metal Gear Solid games. I still love them, I didn't touch Dark Souls until I was 17.
    When I finally finished it, my entire outlook on games was changed. Going from hours of cutscnes where everything is explained in painstaking detail to bloodstains and item descriptions was extremely jarring but I'm commited to MILF ideology now. Man I Love Fromsoftware.
    I've killed everything from Demon's Souls to Elden Ring except for the DLC for ER. I'm working on it but it just came out yesterday.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 5 місяців тому +1

      Nice. For me Demon's Souls completely changed my taste in games, back then I mostly played stuff like Uncharted 2 and Battlefield 3 but after DeS I spammed Souls games for a decade. Nowadays I play more varied stuff but I still love Souls ofc

  • @ryankeith2712
    @ryankeith2712 6 місяців тому +2

    When you said that Miyazaki won I broke down and cried, so happy someone finally said it

  • @nucklechutz9933
    @nucklechutz9933 5 місяців тому +1

    Alright I will admit to absolute unforgivable ignorance and stupidity: Before I saw the thumbnail of this video...I thought these two men were the same guy. Yes....I lived in a fantasy where the creator of Spirited Away graduated to making dark, cryptic arpg's. I kinda wish I still lived in that world, ngl.

  • @chiusan1528
    @chiusan1528 5 місяців тому +1

    Bro did NOT read nausicaa, in the movie they talk about her possibly having to go to war for the sake of old treaties, in the manga she goes to war. There is a scene where she flies and a bomber before her gets ripped apart and horses, soldiers and children fall out and just collide/ explode onto the windshield of her craft

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman9263 6 місяців тому +2

    Also, I mean, Hayao might've revolutionized animation, but Idetaka spawned A WHOLE NEW GENRE. I feel like, in their own niches, their influence is pretty much balanced.

  • @goten3965
    @goten3965 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s funny how one makes incredibly dark worlds but is a happy wholesome guy
    And the other is a person who makes bright cheery worlds but is miserable grumpy old man

  • @aries3690
    @aries3690 5 місяців тому

    Great Video, Keep it up!

  • @ShadowOfLaw
    @ShadowOfLaw 6 місяців тому +45

    I am really disappointed that for the average gamer, Hidetaka's storytelling is for people with the internet. In reality, the story simply is not given, it is shown in locations and items. You need to be an archeologist and deduct the story by yourself.

    • @nmlss-r9
      @nmlss-r9 6 місяців тому +29

      It would not be dark souls if they told you the story straight, I get your pov but if you are playing the game you can read the items and if you don't wanna bother yourself just read/watch it online

    • @SuleX00-ov5ip
      @SuleX00-ov5ip 6 місяців тому +4

      I am a big fan of games that have a relaxed story. Games like hollow knight or zelda. Technically the story to you becoming elden lord/lord of cinder is the games story which means every person will experience a unique story.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 6 місяців тому +4

      i personally loved the lore from elden ring but i gotta admit that the way it is presented through item descriptions isn't the most satisfying way of consuming a story. i like the visual storytelling aspect and i kinda get that it would be hard to give that much lore in another way besides item descriptions but i'll still rather go and watch lore videos than read the items. one could argue that if we had them in cinematics it would take away from the action and immersion but i feel reading the items has the same effect. i also understand that miyazaki has the theme of overcoming struggle to gain fulfillment in all aspects on his game but for me it wouldn't hurt making the story and the quests a little easier to follow. that's basically my only nitpick in elden ring, even though i still consider it a 10/10 masterpiece.

    • @kevo300
      @kevo300 6 місяців тому +4

      You dont need the internet you can piece together the major plot points with some investment. You need the internet if you want piece every single detail.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@kevo300 there are people making maps with all the events and lore, cooperating with other creators and there is still not a clear enough image of the story. yes we all know the ring shattered, the demi gods fought with no winner and then we came in and got all the pieces to become lord and set a new order but the further you try to go deeper than that, the more convoluted and unclear the story becomes.

  • @JohnnyOpal
    @JohnnyOpal 6 місяців тому +5

    Although I agree with your opinions, I think you severely underestimate just how wise and ambiguous Hayao Miyazaki can be with his stories. He has an extreme amount of nuisance in his characters, even for a kids films. Which can lead these films to be studied deeper. A lot of his films are most definitely going to be rewatched to be pieced together, but I would like to note one other thing. Japanese story telling, well Asian storytelling is usually never linear. They like their side quests, which is why both of these peoples works can be confusing to understand. I’d say Hayao has a lot of environmental and humanitarian themes in his films, but they can be so subtle the characters feel real, while Hidetaka is more of a cosmic horror, mythological writer poking fun at universal concepts. They are the perfect examples of “show don’t tell.”

  • @ETBrooD
    @ETBrooD 6 місяців тому +4

    Cynicism is a defense mechanism for many people. When it has no bounds, it can turn into spitefulness.
    Hayao may well be a decent person, but perhaps he feels the pain from his younger years and tries to shield himself from things that could hurt him again. If he crosses a line, it might be because of a deep wound that won't heal.
    This is not an excuse, just a possible explanation. I don't know the man, I could be reading him completely wrong.

  • @runespar
    @runespar 4 місяці тому +1

    Locking yourself out of major chunks of content because you didn't think to look up an online guide and progressed too far isn't a good mechanic. Love ER and DS but goddamn there's no way you're convincing me that isn't a flaw in game design.

  • @Lord_O_Beans
    @Lord_O_Beans 6 місяців тому +2

    HIDETAKA SUPREMACY. ELDEN RING DLC LETS GOOOOO.
    But nice video, it was a fun watch. 👌

  • @Alluminum-z6n
    @Alluminum-z6n 6 місяців тому +2

    Is it not a sequence?
    Beautiful and happy worlds are made by pessimistic people, maybe because it's the only way for them to hide from reality they hate.
    Dark and depressing worlds are created by truly optimists, so they can show you that the real world is still not that bad

  • @MaQuGo119
    @MaQuGo119 6 місяців тому +1

    Everyone forgets Hidetaka also makes his games with tons of verticality

  • @shinobi_rabotyaga3918
    @shinobi_rabotyaga3918 5 місяців тому +1

    You born in Miyazaki world:🥰
    You born in Miyazaki world:💀

  • @donovam2773
    @donovam2773 5 місяців тому

    Keep the good work brother, great video

  • @weirdoweebyness1923
    @weirdoweebyness1923 6 місяців тому

    I love both creators, because they’re made me feel emotion that other media hasn’t made me.
    One sided is sadness, love, happiness, and joy.
    While the other, is Adrenaline, excitement, pride, and cockiness.
    I love watching characters make mistakes and now making mistakes when I play. two sides on the same coin

  • @Deadnight-ei6lp
    @Deadnight-ei6lp 6 місяців тому +1

    I think Hayao Miyazaki is just tired. he's old and was born during a really miserable time, and animation can be unbelievably soul crushing to both do and direct. Remember, the man is 83 years old.

  • @meatballbi4330
    @meatballbi4330 4 місяці тому +1

    Miyazaki as a person is miserable. Miyazaki's work makes you think he's never felt, nor given love. Maybe the reason it's like this is because Miyazaki gives YOU all the pain and despair, while Miyazaki gives you great joy and is left with nothing but his pessimism.

  • @Minion_5516
    @Minion_5516 5 місяців тому

    Nice video, I liked it!

  • @Hepheat75
    @Hepheat75 6 місяців тому +1

    Both Miyazakis are absolute legends. They both came from nothing to masters of their craft.

  • @sirheartattack5741
    @sirheartattack5741 6 місяців тому

    Hidetaka history as a game developer and as a true master of his art is truly inspiring the way he has such a detailed thinking of the worlds he builds are fascinating especially in the realm of game development and variety of ways to experience his craft, however once you're understand Hayao life is when you kinda of understand his view of it and why he does what he does, the man is harsh molded by time and by war and yet he find's a way to transform all of his experiences as a human being into art, his movies once you know the man make even more sense for his views on war, ecology, childhood, japanese mythology a deep dive into his career shows such a complexe character the man is a hard headed grump but I kinda get it the guy wants to make art but inevitably becames a international hit and I don't believe he ever wished for that perhaps he even hates that, anyway Hidetaka creates characters and world's as harsh as possible but has always a way to win a way to satisfy yourself, Hayao on the other hand was molded in a world as harsh and cruel as Hidetaka's but his world is very real and he tries to be the one that will make our world a little bit more tolerable, they really have a lot in common even in ways that we don't expect.

  • @jarosawbielec3141
    @jarosawbielec3141 6 місяців тому

    I cant image my life without those two guys. They shaped my personality and imagination like nobody else.

  • @leroidethunes3913
    @leroidethunes3913 6 місяців тому +2

    As a general rule, Hayao's movies make you think you've understood everything but in reality you've not grasped even a third of the complexity while Hidetaka's games make you think you have understood nothing while in reality you probably know more or less everything due to their simplistic narratives.

  • @MarsMushroom
    @MarsMushroom 5 місяців тому

    subs?!?!?! nah you deserve more +1

  • @ultgamercw6759
    @ultgamercw6759 5 місяців тому

    Two of the most talented and creative people working hard to push there industry forwards.

  • @markiislands
    @markiislands 5 місяців тому +1

    Both their works are masterpieces however i Think i enjoy hidetaka’s work more

  • @CrimsonDragonX7
    @CrimsonDragonX7 6 місяців тому +1

    Mad respect for acknowledging your bias, (although i agree totally)

  • @TheWatchfuleye1
    @TheWatchfuleye1 5 місяців тому +1

    I dont mean any disrespect, just figured I'd let you know if you didn't already, from 13:34 to around 13:48 all the line reads are cut around .5 to 1.5 seconds early, cutting off some words at the end of your sentence, not a big deal, but something to watch out for in the future :)

  • @4yUwantAxe
    @4yUwantAxe 6 місяців тому +2

    Hayao is Shinto; Hidetaka is Buddhism.
    Together, they are Shinto-Buddhism...