What if KSP - N1-L3 Soviet Moon Rocket - Making History Up
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- What if KSP is my new side Series to Space Race KSP were we will explore failed spacecraft and rockets and concept missions.
The N1 was a super heavy-lift launch vehicle intended to deliver payloads beyond low Earth orbit. Its first stage remains the most powerful rocket stage ever built, but all of the four flown N1 first stages failed and the project was abandoned. Lots of rocket parts were literally converted into animal pens but fortunately lots of its closed cycled engines were saved from scrap and have since been retro fitted into successful launch systems.
Since the N1-L3 was my most requested video and it's the Soviet counterpart of Apollo 11 (which was so my last video) it was a no brainier to start here. I have also not started on the next craft in this series which gives you guys an opportunity to comment which space craft or concept mission you would like to see.
Even though the N1 was a little smaller than the Saturn V this turned out to be my largest single launch craft file ever, being the first to be taller than the VAB.
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Historical accuracy 10/10
Wasn't that two N-1F with new control core was ready after four failure ? So it's 6/10 i guess
Besides the whole “N-1 exploding before getting to space” part, it was accurate.
crashing rating: 8294738926863836863836863836 / 10
Especially the cutesy big-headed cosmonaut crawling outside to get into the LEM.
@Hal 9000 r/whooosh
Wish the Soviets had gotten the N1 working reliably because then there could've been an Apollo-Soyuz test in Lunar orbit and perhaps joint Soviet-American missions.
It is quite a wonder to imagine what the world would have been had the Soviet Union not collapse and invest in it's space program more.
twistedyogert + Avoxion
Frankly America was overly dramatic and paranoid at the pretense of Soviet ICBMs and television at the time made things worse for American families. Anti communism politics really killed any alliances with the Soviet Union. As far as I know the possibility of such an alliance would have allowed America to adjust our policies towards the idea of sharing the wealth as much as we try to share power via democracy, but first we would have to prove that certain things like guns and gas are not necessities in our culture but pleasures that kill anyone’s sense of future by not sharing the world for others, to “steal” other’s rights to this country you could say.
I guess you could also say President Trump is the final wall and pinnacle of those beliefs that certain things which have caused harm to other are nothing more than taken for granted, and in fact are a right. But they’re a Market of Addiction, and the rights are excuses to have something that causes tragedy no matter what happens.
So I guess when America reckons we can love what we really need in our lives, that can allow some aspects of what that alliance would’ve been to come back.
@@topsecret1837 Yeah I know it could have basically never happened it was never what my comment was around.. Could have saved yourself the time to write that
@@topsecret1837 The target of Red USSR is Red World Communistic Revolution. Main stages of this revolution are :
USSR
USSRW - USSR of World
UCRW - Union of Communistic Republics of World
CR - Communistic Republic
Therefore your loved "alliances with the Soviet Union" are possible if you want all world to be red and you are ready to work in red labor camps.
Lenyou comrade !
Yeah
The ghost of Korolev smiles at this.
What scares me is the need for a spacewalk transfer between crew module and the lander. Easy enough when the stack was together prior to landing....but getting back when there was no docking??? THAT would be the scariest part of the mission for me.
The original spacecraft would have had a grappling claw, then later models had docking ports but I think even then they intended to EVA across. hence Alexei Leonov was top choice
There would have been docking. A ball would have been on the tipp top of LOK Soyuz, which would fit into one of many holes on a plate on LK.
Russian's are something else
I wonder what's next. Some ideas for the future:
The ambitious proposals of the Apollo Applications Program.
Direct ascent landing proposal for Apollo (and the Soviets).
The cheap and massive Sea Dragon rocket.
The Constellation program.
And many more...
And the newest what if chandryaan 2 was launched on 15 July
Ultimately I want to make videos about how I propose we colonise space but that's still in the distant future.
@@GameplayReviewUK ok but if you want more info you can search on internet
What about the Buran? The russian space shuttle.
This makes me think of the scene in the movie Apollo 18 when they find the abandoned Soviet lander 😟
True
Moon. S p i d e r s
@@icelandic6578 plot twist: the crew in the movie we’re the first moon spider men
Engineers: "so how many stages you want for your moon rocket?"
Soviet union: *y e s*
Engineers: "and how many for the lander?"
*n o*
The amount of detail even with stock i-
This is the best stock ksp recreation of N1 rocket that I ever seen. That's awesome! I looking forward to more similar videos
Thanks :) wanted the use the N1 for some more what if KSP later so keep an eye out.
Make the Sea Dragon next maybe?
Yup I agree a sea dragon would be just the top of all in ksp even if there where and still will be bigger rockets the sea dragon is my favorite.
Hmmm thats big
Launching from the water may be a problem though.
@@Thumbsupurbum but if he makes like a makeshift raft that sinks like a sub it might as well work just decouple and there you go
Fernando Queiroz Popovic I tried making a submarine once in KSP. The underwater physics don't really exist in game, and moving around under water is quite difficult. There's no buoyancy, it's more like Jool's atmosphere or something. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it wouldn't be as straightforward as some may think.
Amazing video! The N1 is always a very interesting rocket
Amazing work. I have never seen a better fully stock N1 rocket in KSP!
Maybe this one :) ua-cam.com/video/dZyeIqelNWM/v-deo.html
Это божественно! As always very cool work!
Just as Neil Armstrong was about to step on the moon and say his quote, a stubby green guy places a Russian flag on the surface.
No way, Sheldon. Buzz Aldrin would’ve punched that little green commie back into space!
@@jacksons1010 True
*USSR flag
And after that fight, sudenly hears a war sound... *GUTEN TAG*
P.D Sorry for my bad english
@@criogenic1839 And Neal Armstrong stepped out of his capsule and right onto a towel. "Dammit", he said, "The Germans are already here".
It was really awesome. Best your replica, as for me
Thanks again mate :)
I saw in the chat replay that you mentioned that the LK and Soyuz should dock, and I'm pretty sure you're right. From memory, they used the Kontakt system, which had no tunnel through the port, so they had to spacewalk.
Yes they would have had a grab like docking mechanism and may have later upgraded to a nice docking port. I figured maybe the first mission may have had to skip the procedure.
Do leave a comment for what you think the next episode should be, if someone has already commented, please leave them a like.
Vodka rocket
First off, amazing Soyuz LOK craft. Love the LK aesthetic as well.
As for the suggestions, an LK-700 would be interesting. Maybe a Von Braun style nuclear Mars mission? EMPIRE? The Ares mission from Voyage would be truly epic. So much never funded...
Apollo applications
Why don't we try the sea dragon that would be just amazing to see a spacecraft that was designed long before apollo even started. 😅👍
Do a Nazi Space Program with the plans for the modified V2 Rocket xD
This made my PC almost catch on fire, insane detail.
6 stages, 2 space walks and a lunar landing. Wow, that was complicated to say the least.
Отличная работа, товарищ! )
Ещё русский
Спасилен товарищ !
Служу Советскому Союзу!
😆😂🤣👍👏 30 лет Союза нет, а ты все служишь....упертый 😁
That was awesome!. Seriously good job mate!
You should do the constellation program next! Amazing vid as always, super realistic!
Amazing job and amazing work making the rocket! Must not be to hard because the thing looks like it was designed in KSP to begin with.
Its sooooooo stable!
Красава!!! Респект!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It would be cool if you crashed it like the real thing, because explosions
It was already running at 5 FPS I was worried an explosion would burn a hole in my mother board.
@@GameplayReviewUK lol ksp optimization is awful
I run ksp pretty good on my core 2 duo E4500 (btw it runs at 2.2GHz but 3 GHz is recommended for gaming lol)
Nice creation sir
Thank you :)
This was really good, the rocket looked fantastic.
I'm not an expert on space flight and no criticism intended, but why did you not dock the lander with the spacecraft in orbit after leaving the Mun? In real life there was a single use docking port which would have been used when the two craft rendezvoused in Lunar orbit, to facilitate the transfer of any samples, etc the returning cosmonaut would have collected for returning to Earth.
As far as I know, and as I've said already, it was only a single use docking system, the act of using it would have smashed it, making it inoperable, which would have been interesting for the crew, hoping that the thing would release when the time to jettison the lander arrived as they prepared to return home.
You may or may not know this, but the Soviet lander may yet make it to the moon, apparently the Chinese have been in talks with Moscow, hoping they will provide them with the plans for the spacecraft.
Like I said though, really great video, you really nailed how the whole Soviet package would have looked.
Well the n1 lander was incased in a fairing not actually docked to the Soyuz
@@BusinessMudkip That is true, but it was also fitted with a very basic docking system so it could link up with the Soyuz when it returned from the surface of the moon. This was probably to keep both vessels stable in relation to each other while the cosmonaut transferred his samples over to the Soyuz before returning home.
I love this rocket, and the possible implications that could have occurred had the soviets landed upon the moon first, A fantastic job!
NASA: we must dock the lunar module with the commander module in order for the astronauts to come back.
SOVIET: Ah, just jump when the commander module comes.
Too bad the Soviets abandoned the project It was a good designation of a rocket :(
Nice vid :)
It was because of several launch failures
Abandoning the project was the only reasonable option for the Soviets as N1 was simply never going to work reliably
Спасибо! Продолжай дальше, клёвый контент.
I'd note that the moment of docking of the lunar modul (LK) with Soyuz 7K (LOK) is missing in the sequence. But all other details are very cool. Thanks!
Good job! That was awesome
Thanks
Beautifully made
Идеально!👍
Н-1 не предполагалось для высадки спускаемого аппарата на поверхность Луны. Н-1 должна была вывести Лунную станцию Салют-1 на орбиту Луны.
Very smooth touchdown❤❤❤
This mission would be truly amazing! Still not as amazing as Apollo 11 but I could imagine them getting to the moon after Apollo 11, maybe it would be better, maybe we wouldn’t just stop going there. When we had competition after landing there. But now it’s to late we just have to hope that we get back to the moon. But the N1 Rocket is an amazing piece and the stages and how the mission was supposed to go it’s just awesome . Thank you for making this video I was really interested how the mission would actually look like.
Game play reviews uk, or GPRUK, I guess, could u do a video where u launch a rocket that’s a mix of the Saturn 5 and N1 please? It would be stupidly hilarious. Make the lower stage the Saturn 5, the next two stages N 1, the lander would also be N 1, but the faring containing it and the crew medial would be Saturn 5. Please do this. Call it the Saturn N 1. DO IT FOR ME!
Its so real it crahed my KSP!!!
I think it made mine crash a couple of time too :D
Fantastic! 👏👏👏
That was one big piece fairing
Its Soo satisfying
Yup this is just the best I think I'll stick with the channel for some time yeah.
Wow now that was quick.
Thanks for the comment :)
@@GameplayReviewUK no,thank you for the video and you know what will for sure be the better for this channel if I may say:to just make the most unknown rockets there ever where because they where or wacky or tottaly did not work and that is the good part of ksp that's why I subed right after the video was over to see a genius get to work and I'm surprised matt lowen did not comment here you are a bloody brilliant designer. Aniway good luck on the next video. 😉👍
Can talk about how the lander is called the lunniy KORABL lander
Eanna McNamara Russian for lunar craft. That’s really it.
@@space__idklmao korabl sounds similar to kerbal
Nice one mate :D, I made my own last year but never tested it
Как всегда Великолепнейшая работа
Очень жаль что мы так и не полетели на Луну! Слишком рано были брошены работы по Н-1. Ну и что, что американци высадились первыми, ну и что, что наша ракета взрывалась, надо было дальше продолжать работать, пока ракета не была бы доведена до ума, к тому же последний запуск прошел лучше чем три педидущих, а лунный модуль был вообще готов
Victor Lux нужно было использовать схему со сборкой лунного корабля на орбите за несколько пусков ракеты протон, а не тратить колоссальные ресурсы на эту гигантскую н1. Стыковку освоить было проще, особенно если повысить роль космонавтов в этом процессе.
@@Andrey_Drone однопусковая схема очень сооблазнительна.
amazing
0:14 And this is where u find the moon rock crabs!
"I take this step for my country, for my people, and for the Marxist-Leninist way of life. Knowing that today is but one small step on a journey that someday will take us all to the stars."
For all makind ou era a frase de verdade?
красиво сделал! я аж прослезился!
Thanks mate :)
Wow
Perhaps try to make the Gemini direct assent craft and the LK-700 (edit wrong number 😂)
10/10
You should make a short video on the 2009 satellite collision, which happened when a Russian Kosmos satellite and an American Iridium satellite collided above the Arctic Sea.
Чудо что это махина хоть смогла оторваться от земли ,
Слишком усложненная конструкция , даже сегодня запуск 27 двигателей Falcon Heavy это крайне сложная задача , что уж говорить про электронику того времени ,
США правильно решили что 5 двигателей лучше чем 30 , меньше шансов что что-то сломается , а также легче следить за ними а компьютерам управлять им особенно с тогдашними компами ,
Да и в целом Сатурн более простая если сравнить ,
А главное правила инженера ,
Чем проще тем лучше .
почему сатурны не взрывались, потому что их поэтапно делали, ступень за ступенем. Каждый ступень запускали отдельно и пока не доводились до ума следующие не делали. А Н-1 построили зразу полностью и на старт, еще очень торопили советские власти чтоб опередить американцев. Итог все взорвались на старте
@@archibaldo СССР даже не проверяли двигатели , не проводили прожиг на стенде ,
Да и вряд ли она поднялась бы на орбиту , слишком хлипкая , много слабых мест и слишком тяжёлая .
Но 3 основные проблемы это резонанс , двигатели и электроника которая была слишком слабой что бы управлять одновременно таким количеством двигателей и систем .
В итоге лунную программу СССР погубило тяга СССР к гигантизму , политика была чем больше тем лучше .
Даже энергия буран постиг ту же судьбу , никому не нужна такая ракета , она грузоподьемной была но грузов для неё не было , буран понятно списали из за ненужности ,
В целом СССР по этому и погиб , любовь к гигантизму , вкладывал ресурсы в огромные и в большинстве случаях не нужных проектов .
@@four-dimensionalperson ну по крайней мере хоть что-то делали в отличие от Роскосмоса,как Рогозин пришел так ничего путного не делали больше до сих пор летают на дедовских технологиях новых ракет нет.Россия скоро потеряет статус космической сверхдержавы а на место ей придут spacex и nasa.
@@virtuality_reality42 достижения никто не отменяет их было много , но с 91 года когда образовалась страна РФ не было сделано ничего ,
Ну кроме дэбильной ангары которая является полной копией протона но даже несмотря на это её до сих пор не могут заставить нормально летать , а с прошло уже почти 30 лет с тех пор как началось строительство , .
Вот так и летаем на гагаринских Р-7 только "модернизированные" .
@@four-dimensionalperson это точно
excellent
*FINALLY*
Nice video :)
Thanks :)
Nice
Cool
I wish countries would do joint space missions instead of using trillions of dollars trying to kill each other.
same 😅
@@GameplayReviewUK
you show the returning capsule landing on land: wouldn't it land in the ocean instead?
@@ireneuszpyc6684 A Soyuz derived capsule usually aims for land but they are capable of landing in water too
It would be extremely dangerous this mission. Very complex and the necessity of riding around the space for two times by the cosmonaut shows insanity and almost a suicide
nice
During launch; did you put those Auroras' in the background on purpose? 'Cause they pretty.
I try to take a semi realistic trajectory and make the most of the view, in this case we got to see the auroras ;)
@@GameplayReviewUK sweet!
👍👍🎖🎖😊
This is the best vidio
Shame you didn’t show the building process. Would have liked to make my own
The amount of time this took it would have taken a whole series to show the building process.
dude you and a great hero 🤣
Blyatiful 😢 👏
Stupid
i can only give 9.9/10
OMG.The unholy rocket!
Did it also blew up on the launch pad about three times?
Belive it or not. Yes it did :)
Only one rocket fell back on the Launch pad. It happened on July 1969, days before the official Apollo 11 manned moon landing attempt. Seconds after the launch the system KROD shut down all of the engines due to a fire on engine NO.8. The rest fell back or exploded before/after the impact on the ground miles away from the launch pads. The fifth and sixth N1 were both ready. At that time they truly believed that it could work. Both of the rockets went under some serious developments and improvements. Unfortunately the programme was abandoned before the scheduled launches.
@@spaceflighthistory5362 KORD
If you would have used all delta V then I’m guessing you could probably have gone to Duna, Ike and back.
Н-1 не предполагалось для высадки спускаемого аппарата на поверхность Луны.
Н-1 должна была вывести Лунную станцию Салют на орбиту Луны.
Пруфы?
круть! спс.
Imagine Lunniy korabl and Apollo LM both land near each other at the same time...........
after lifting off from the moon Cosmonauts planned to exit their vehicle and space walk to the other one ? 🤯
I really dig these replica vehicles from the series, are they available somewhere as shareables?
Yes :) www.curseforge.com/kerbal/shareables/space-race-ksp/files
Adam please may you do MHE explorer programe like you did with the ranger programe or please may you do MHE or breaking grounds ISS
Is you agree I can't wait to see your design's 🙂
I've built a 1:1 breaking ground ISS for Demo 2 video :)
@@GameplayReviewUK oh then can you do all mission to the moon like when u did it with all mission to mars
the for listening 🙂
😱😱
:OOOOO
Uma pena o N1 não ter conseguido êxito em sua época
did the Soviets manage docking back in '69?
Yes Soyuz 4 & 5, I planned to do a video about it but had to skip it. I intend to come back to it.
@@GameplayReviewUK cool! Keep up the good work
Does the rocket really work in practice? Would the engines need to be redesigned to not use pyrotechnic valves?
BFR to Duna next?
Maybe Starship to Duna
How do you get it so realistic and working?
Poor block D, it was almost useless...
im guessing this is not purely stock parts? i mean how did you get the re-entry module of the 7K-LOK to be the correct bell shaped one?
it is stock, the shape is merely a stock fairing
What mod did you use to make the rocket?
none, but the making history DLC wss installed.
How do you get crafts with so many parts to run so smoothly it takes me forever to load them let alone try and get them into orbit at 10 FPS my pc isn’t the greatest but it is still decent in my opinion it just seems to have a very difficult time with KSP
Not all of it was smooth, the faring separation was 1 fps, slowest ever, that part of the video is sped up about 20 times.
Imagine the part count...
just over 1000 parts :)
@@GameplayReviewUK My old Dell E310, my old computer I used to play KSP, would spontaneously combust.
What visual mods are you using???
I downloaded the file for the n1 but the problem is the rocket is too heavy to liftoff. Im wondering if i could know why.
It shouldn't be too heavy to lift off, but maybe an update since has tweaked some bits, not to worry, the craft has more fuel than required. just remove some fuel from one of the first three stages and should be fine.
how did you do the mun transfer from such a high inclination as a woomerang orbit?
Well if anything how would you do a none inclined orbit if you are pretending the Van Allen is there?
Short answer is set the Mun as the target and do your TLI burn around the ascending/descending nodes. The apex of the orbit will intersect with the mun's orbital plane.
@@GameplayReviewUK hey, thanks for responding! I'm trying to challenge myself in KSP currently, so the tips should help.
Fact,russians were only allocated 10% of what apollo had,so they could build 10 n1s for the price of 1 apollo even if 7 of them failed it would still be better.
But why does the LK not connect 7K-LOK after taking off from the moon as in life. Did you have any difficulties with the creation?
The first design of LK does not dock, it would latch on with a claw which I didn't add, the second design had a way for the ships to dock properly but would have still needed a spacewalk.
I meant the second one.
@@kurtz8804 in this case you would just add a jr docking port to the LOK
Is there a space simulation game like this but with better graphics
There’s simple rockets 2 that’s pretty good might be worth checking out I personally didn’t like KSP at first but I played a free version I got somewhere and absolutely fell in love with it
Maybe Orbiter 2016, it's free but you can't build rockets like you can in ksp. Orbiter has better graphics, it has the real solar system and and real spacecraft. ksp has a large modding community, people make mods that add better graphics, the real solar system and real spacecraft anyway.
@@GremlinRider ua-cam.com/video/P_nj6wW6Gsc/v-deo.html
@@aymeneee8430 I saw that and freaked the fuck out
Apollo 18 astronaut: What the hell?
Stuka
Whirlwind
The Russian plan called for a space walk between the Lunar lander and the Command module?? Yikes!
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