My friend works for HP and with Omen, she'll will be very happy to receive the "Dawid doesn't think this prebuilt will sacrifice your first child to the dark lord" award.
@@Primez8902 well I got one a month ago and it didnt even boot into windows. Had to return it and the second one crashed on me twice and gave me a heart attack(its working fine now). Yeah these things are gambles and they shouldn't be that for the price they are.
@@Alex-mp5xe Wouldint that be based on the company tho? Prebuilts should worl right out of the box. If the company doesnt test it they shouldint even be making prebuilt pc's.
I picked up a 30L back in March (10700F with 2070 Super) (drought in full swing so terrible time to buy but had to be done). It's been an alright system. Not in love with it but good stability/reliability, worked out of the box, and minimal sketchiness. Your review is pretty solid and tracks with my experience with it. The stock cooler on the CPU does get overwhelmed without too much effort. Anyone else buying an Omen highly recommend going for the liquid cooling option.
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My gf bought one of these about a year ago or so, right before all the gpu scalping. It has been a great pc so far with no issues at all (her cat actually managed to knock it over and the damn thing is still running very well - nothing broken or out of place). Hers is the 30L variant and came with a gtx 1660 and ryzen 5 3600. It also has wayyy better IO on the back along with better cooling up front. With these HP omens, I'm seeing that they're very hit or miss on some things, but considering how bad prebuilts usually are and how expensive building one is at the moment, I think these can be great PCs
I find with the Omens is that the moment you start sticking beefier GPUs than a 2060( the 2060 super can get a bit toasty if it can't get good amounts of air people forget it's has the PCB and memory config of the ig 2070) in them those thermals become a issue same for the CPUs i5s and the 3600 from work just fine anything more than those parts hot and loud
It's great seeing your channel take off so well! I remember when you built the first system from your youtube money, and it was.... lets just call it an "adorable" build. Now you're moving into a studio to film! Big congrats in making it this far!
Great video Dawid! I bought one of these Omens last May of 2020 and uploaded a ton of videos on how to replace the cooler and other components. For me, replacing the cooler with a Noctua U9S was the best modification I did. Also using MSI Afterburner for an aggressive GPU fan curve worked really well.
@@mayarunnessa557 I don’t know if you’ve gotten it already but you should go for the 30l or maybe even the 45l, but I don’t know as much about the 45l so do some research on both of them
Congrats on the new studio! I’ve been watching this channel ever since it popped up on my suggested page about 5 or 6 months ago and It’s one of my favorite new channels to binge watch. Keep up the good work Dawid!
I’m enjoying the prebuilt reviews. Keep them coming, they are great for recommendations to lesser tech savvy friends and people in my day to day. Thanks.
I bought one a few years back. It did what it needed to. At the time I was too afraid to try and build one myself. I've since pretty much changed everything this side of the card, cpu and motherboard. And those are all next. Crazy how much things can change over a few years confidence wise.
I bought this PC and its my first gaming PC and I love it. I can run almost every game on high settings with zero crashes. The one thing I should note since I bought mine from Amazon I have few different components. I also changed the stock GPU fan and the rear fan and the temps immediately dropped
How did you change the GPU fan? I am getting this same pc because of the way the market is right now and would love to have that info in case I need to do that.
Thank you for the review. Buying this spec for my kid due to budget. Something he can grow with and is worth upgrading as he's gotten into that recently.
I'd actually love to see a video where you go in and upgrade/modify that HP Omen's insides to the point that it doesn't have uncomfortably hot thermals. Sometimes prebuilts are actually very close to being good gaming solutions, but there are a couple of things holding it back.
@@scooter73-i2 Yes DanKamYouKnow is great at showing you every part of the omen and what you can do to improve thermals in the Omen case. Still there is only so much that you can do with the Omen case. I finally upgraded my Omen case to a BeQuiet 802 which is night and day in terms of thermals and looks and it's built like a tank. It's a bit large and has 7x 140mm case fans, but I wanted room to expand for future upgrades so a larger case is what I wanted. DanKam I believe used a Meshify 2 compact for his case swap and that is a very nice case also and is a lot smaller than the BeQuiet 802. The only thing left from my original HP Omen is the CPU and motherboard. I upgraded the power supply to a Corsair 850 watt, put in a 3060 GPU, upgraded ram, replaced the NVME drive with a WD Black w/heatsink and added 2x Samsung SSDs, upgraded to a Noctua CPU cooler, and upgraded the wifi card to an intel wifi 6 card. My favorite upgrade was the case swap though. It's looks and performs so much better now than the stock Omen case. No more worries about thermal throttling and I can run my i7 CPU at max turbo boost speeds all day and all night now. Whereas the stock Omen case and stock Omen CPU cooler config leads to near instant thermal throttling and decreased performance.
They can be borderline frustrating, BUT! It's absolutely doable. Just need to do some drilling, cutting, bending to get job done sometimes. It's kinda like a dark sould boss. Trial and error, trial and error, until you figure it out, and BEAT THAT FUCKIN BOSS! Or in this case it's obtaining consistent optimal temps.
just bought the newest HP Omen, tried to upgrade the stock 2x8 3200mhz RAM to 4x8gb 3600mhz RAM.... The new ram is locked at 2400mhz and can't be clocked in BIOS x) so much for upgradable
@@Runey7 I think with the last BIOS update they added XMP for memory management. I have the 30L 64Gb (4x16), RTX3080, I9 10900KF 1TB m2 SSD, 2Tb HDD (garbage except for backup files). I couldn't refuse the price $2675 on one week price drop Dec 2021. But like you said there are limits with the motherboard. I can't use the new RTX 40 series, nor Intels new ARC GPUs. I don't think I can upgrade the CPU to a I9 12th or 13th generations. So, except flashy RGB upgrades it's limited at best.
@@bobbyd6680 You're right they do have XMP options and i can choose speeds, but it has no effect the computer just beeps and restarts with the ram at the lowest option :/ oh well..... That's a great price, compared to all the other computers on the market no one could offer the same specs for the low price thats why i also went with it.
3:46 Life pro tip for anyone encountering a hex screw but doesn't have a hex bit: torx works fine too if you have the right size (You can also use triwing on the weird screws that have a triangle hole, but not as well as torx works with hex)
If I were to give the benefit of the doubt, I think the metal covering the top fan mount is so that the negative pressure in the case doesn't just take air from the top opening. That way the air can maybe come from the bottom opening, which would get some fresh air to the gpu?
my laptop, gigabyte aero 15x, cost 2200$, and has god awful audio. when nothing is playing you can hear the electrical noise through the board. its actually better to just stick to bluetooth most of the time
Let me quickly help you and everyone. So…the motherboard is upgradable but the bios is locked and there’s no xmp so expect all ram to run at worst speed possible. They use the worst cooler possible so expect high temps and to kill your cpu. Most of them come with single channel ram so he got extremely lucky here. The case cannot fit a normal atx board so forget upgrading that way. The power supply is non modular and only has one 4 pin cpu power connector so you can’t use it with new motherboards unless you are cool with low power to cpu or not working at all. One good thing about the suffocating case is low dust. You also have to buy ram directly from hp in order to not run at 2133mhz. Though you can void your warranty and use ryzen master. Everything is basically handicapped by hp’s proprietary motherboard here. The one huge glaring mistake they made. The graphics cards are also hampered by more hp locks to voltage and cheap dies. Thanks for this video bro!
I got one of these but it had a ryzen 5 3500 6 core (no hyper threading), with a 3070 and I found that it was pretty fantastically built minus a few minor gripes
Its nice seing small channels do things that are more leaning towards budget builds then the classic MAX SPEC GAMING PC (LTT ESPECIALLY) since the majority of us will be buying what dawid reviews .
I own an upgraded version of this model, with an AIO, a front fan, and a RTX 2080 Super. HP OMEN makes great pre-builts, ideal for people who are transitioning from console to pc (like I did) and don’t feel comfortable building a pc
10:15 made me burst out laughing LOL. "It's not gonna release the ghost of tutankhamun which comfortably puts it ahead of an Acer or Dell system" Great video as always!
Oh but that shroud is gonna make it run extremely hot. The shroud blocks airflow, as you can see, it extends all the way to the pcb, so no air can escape the fin stack. Simply horrible.
I have a pc like this one ( more upgraded one) and it works amazing. These pc are awesome. I have always wanted to build a pc but instead got this since it had great specs which were almost exactly like I wanted and with this you could actually get a graphics card ( at the current time graphics cards were either way overpriced or unavailable).
Dual RAM stick is always the most important part of any pre-built system. Who cares if it's hot because of lack of airflow? Just take side panel of and let's go! :D
@@pokewtf906 The ram, when using 2 sticks, should have a gap between them, so you either put the ram in slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. The RAM should occupy A1 and B1 or A2 and B2.
Omen: an event regarded as a portent of good or evil. HP naming their prebuilt OMEN tells you everything you need to know about the system before you even buy it.
I got a HP OMEN only a few weeks ago and really pleased i got on for £1500 ($2100) with a 3080 and a i7 10700k, which was a steal. Its got great temps but mines got 1 beefy front fan at bottom so that helps with gpu temps.
I have an Omen Obelisk and it is basically identical. I installed a top 120mm exhaust fan on the bracket and also a 120 mm intake on the bottom vents. This helped some, but ultimately the only way I could keep the CPU temps in check and avoid thermal throttling was to install the NOctua U9S chromax cpu cooler. This changed the whole game.
Just FYI Omen gaming HUB is not bloat wear my dude. It's used to fine tune the fan speed, overclocking and under volting. If someone buys an Omen and it does not have the gaming hub, you'll almost fine every time they go looking for it to tune their PC. Also, who care about bloatware. If you can't take 5 minutes out of your busy day to just go to the (Add or remove programs) then you shouldn't really be using a PC in the first place. I have never fussed over it and I am sure many others don't really care. We want to see how the PC runs, if the parts match the price, that sort of stuff.
Love how Dawid say the CPU cooler looks like a stock intel cooler when it actually looks like a standard Wraith Stealth Ryzen cooler with the AMD logo replaced with Omen .
I can say from personal experience, it doesn't cool like a Ryzen cooler... It barely cools at all. That was the first thing I did when I got mine, getting a real CPU cooler...
Or replace it with a fine mesh. Keep it clean from bugs and some bigger dust particles but allow air to get it. In my case this would work considering how cold the room I play in is. 62 degrees f°
Grats on the new studio! Also when LTT did their pre built secret shopping I recall them pointing out HP omens had a bios power limit on the cpu hindering its overall performance ie their 2070 system was being beat out by a 2060 system because the cpu was power limited.
Fun fact that top panel you think is blocking the vent. those lil plus marks on it are for a philips screw driver to twist the lil squares out to free up the ventilation for a 120mm fan or 120mm AIO.
How fitting... My omen laptop also used to run hot and they claimed that's normal. Their cooling solutions suck and now I find out their towers also run hot... I will just stay away from omen forever 🤣
I suck at building anything. I suck at the most simple forms of cable management for keyboards and stuff. I would mess up so hard. So i paid for my system to be build with the stuff i want (as long as it is compatible). I paid a bit more OFC but now i have great cable management and a perfectly build system in general :D No bloatware, no bullshit. But i assume if you really try hard and look out for reviews then you can definitely find a prebuild from one of the mainbrands thats worth the money. I would never go gaming laptop again though, had 2 - both were just heating elements for my apartment and my hands (ouch) and the OMEN was the worst offender.
So a thing about that plate is the top of the case it can be removed once it’s removed you have to push the four plates out then you can either add a 120 mm radiator or 120 mm fan and also I found out the hard way that AIO wouldn’t fit on my motherboard and broke my motherboard I’ve been out of the computer for about four months due to the part shortage
It’s worth noting that you can add fans in the bottom, since the motherboard actually has a spare header. It’s also possible to remove the metal plate over the top vent
@@Wigglythegreat2 should I cop this 25L and make some fixes like people are suggesting? Or just go ahead and build one at my local memory express shop?
Not going to lie, the Omen might be a good option for me, considering the fact that the stock market isn't really stable so far, might consider it if it is good! What prebuilt would you recommend me as an option for gaming and 3D rendering?
I am also looking for something similar. Maybe run a raid or 2 in Destiny every once in awhile but also something that can handle multiple rendering programs. Maybe not simultaneous D2 and rendering programs but a machine capable of those things when it calls for it
I have a 5+ year old Omen I got on sale at BB for like $1,200. I7 7700 with a 1070fe and 16gb memory, it's been running pretty much 10+ hours a day all those years, mostly running shooters. It has 1 fan, and gets it's air through the side panel that has holes in it. I'd say temps are close to what you found, but considering how ruff of a life it's lived so far, and that nothing has broken. I would defiantly say it was worth it's value.
I'm curious david. What do you do with these prebuilts after? do you mod them or keep them for parts, or do you re-sell them or return them? I hope you reply, thanks!
i actually have this pc and its very nice, little toasty but with a ram upgrade and a very soon gpu and cpu upgrade, i am happy of how this pc is built!
My family didn't know what to get me for Christmas so they got me this lol, I've built quite a few computers in the past year and seeing this build out of box in person dear lord am I so hyped to fix this poor pre-built, Temps are big thing to me i want to be as COOL AS POSIBLE
I bought a 30L Omen : 10700k@5.16 watercooled / 3090@ 2000 oc / 1 To nvme.m2 / 32GB@ 3200 / 750 PW / windows 10 included… low temps… huge noise… GREAT PC for 3.300€… especially when you can’t find a 3090 below 2.500€…
If anyone is looking at this CPU, they've made some updates to it since then. The case has better airflow on the front. The CPU cooler is now a much stronger model. And the GPU most notably just has the issue of needing to change the fan curve (HP's default fan curve is abysmal, changing it in MSI Afterburner to something more reasonable will dramatically improve temps). After pulling the bracket around the GPU (there for shipping, not for support) it won't hit above 70 celcius even under extreme load. Genuinely can have a solid price-to-performance if you get it on a good sale--I got one where it would've cost me several hundred dollars more to build myself.
Hey! Did you increase the Bitrate in the sound control panel? Alot of systems ship with very very low audio settings enabled by default. Believe me even my thinkpad from 2006 could handle maximum audio settings.
Congrats on the new studio Dawid. I'm in England but have a mate in Canada and many friends in the Welshness. Been watching for a couple of years now and it's truly satisfying to watch a fellow guitar player and PC tinkerer do his stuff and get recognition for it. Love seeing the channel progress dude - all the best to you and your partner!
I bought the Omen 25L with the RTX 3060 Ti and Ryzen 7 5700G 3 days ago , I must say I'm actually impressed with it so far . Please bear in mind I upgraded from an i3 4140 and GTX 960 .
@@docn1ght ryzen master to keep temps low and upgraded the ram to 32gb. I do enjoy this pc but the temps are the biggest issue, right now I get the temps to below 60 degrees on mass load so pretty impressed. However I do NOT recommend this PC to anyone who knows nothing about computers. The price is the best thing about the Omen I mean Ryzen 7 and RTX 3060ti for £1300. Most pcs with that spec are almost if not over £2000.
I have the 30L with the R5-5600G and 3060. The front of the case is actually vented well and has a decent fan. I will agree 100% about the on board audio… how on earth did they break that but have an otherwise decently built system?
@@eternityvisuals2758 The CPU, GPU, SSD, and power supply are all happily living in new machines. The rest was thrown away rather quickly. Memory was locked at 2400, on board audio was really terrible, motherboard was a stripped OEM with no real expansion, the case RGB was proprietary to that motherboard, and the single intake fan behind the glass didn’t do well on thermals. For an average user, this machine may be great, but it had limitations that didn’t work for my use case.
I'm on my second omen laptop first one was a 15 inch 1080p with a I7 6700hq and a GTX 970 with 2400 MHz ddr4 now I'm on my new one a 15 inch with a Ryzen 7 5800h and a Rtx 3070 with 1080p 144hz display and dual channel 3200 MHz ddr4 from the factory I love it
The water inside a loop will absorb heat quite well with short-burst workloads but a 120mm radiator will definitely not provide enough heat dissipation for a freaking 5800X. The liquid cooler most likely has garbage temps on a productivity workload yes.
I have the Omen 30L with the Liquid Cooler and front 120 mm intake. Has by far better temps than this. I'm usually in the 60's in a game like Fallout 4, Mass Effect, and low 70's in Cyberpunk 2077 with a 10700K and 2070 Super. HP skimped on the 25L, though there tons of modification channels like DanKnowYourStuff etc. that includes removing bracket at the top, placing intake fans on the dust filter, and changing the AIO cooler.
I got this 25L with an i5 10400f, 2060, and 16gb RAM. I immediately removed that metal plate on the underside and put another fan in. Then I used the space around the bottom near the front for another fan. It runs OK, and I've had no heating/cooling issues at all. Now, I will admit, had I known then what I know now about pc building and been more informed in general, I might have bought the parts and built one myself. That said, for the price (about 900 quid) and the simplicity of the "out of the box" nature, it is a good entry into pc gaming...in my opinion.
You can add a 120mm fan to the top mounting bracket as exhaust and you can also put a 120mm fan as intake at the bottom of the case. Make sure you have clearance under the case and it's not on carpet.
Just pulled all the useful components out of an Omen 30L for a friend after two board failures in less than a year. It must have gotten really hot in there, because when I went to pull the secondary drive, an HDD, the plastic drive caddy basically disintegrated. The only other time I've had something like that happen is while working on cars. But credit where it's due, the components were of good quality, they just housed them in a garbage case.
I've got this with the 3060ti and it is slightly larger with 2 fans. I put it in a case with proper airflow and it runs cool. No issues after 2-3 months of mining when I'm not gaming.
I bought the 30L with the 1660S last year when I got into PC gaming. This is the computer that got me into PC gaming. I upgraded as I went and built my own PC as time went on with a 4000D airflow.
My friend works for HP and with Omen, she'll will be very happy to receive the "Dawid doesn't think this prebuilt will sacrifice your first child to the dark lord" award.
Or the GamersNexus award of, 'its better than Dell'
its like scoring higher than the worst kid in class, like yeah, you did it, but it wasnt that hard
Tell them to put less thermal paste than pizza sauce on pizzas
@@JeskidoYT eh, that's some underpaid factory worker just doing it as fast as they can. It doesn't hurt so why bother?
@@CheradenZakalwe true
I paid $800 for an HP Omen 17 from a pawn shop in 2019. I just upgraded my ram to 32gb and it's still going strong! I feel like I robbed them.
Same will have mines next week
That's a steal of a price I paid £1,099 for a new Omen 15 with rtx 2060 5 months ago
@@Lif7ed 1049€ for a 3060 + r5 5700h combo. Sorry for your loss of some money 😅😅
@@emirmet You win some you lose some I guess 👍
@@emirmet mate its 2021 people sell a 300$ GPU like the 3060 for 800$
Room full of Pre-build is my next sleep paralysis.
Why are prebuilts bad?
@@Primez8902 well I got one a month ago and it didnt even boot into windows. Had to return it and the second one crashed on me twice and gave me a heart attack(its working fine now). Yeah these things are gambles and they shouldn't be that for the price they are.
@@Alex-mp5xe Wouldint that be based on the company tho? Prebuilts should worl right out of the box. If the company doesnt test it they shouldint even be making prebuilt pc's.
I really hope you never have to experience that.
@@Primez8902 Not all are bad. Some are bad because of profit. They either cut costs or design it badly so that you can use their service for repairs.
I picked up a 30L back in March (10700F with 2070 Super) (drought in full swing so terrible time to buy but had to be done). It's been an alright system. Not in love with it but good stability/reliability, worked out of the box, and minimal sketchiness. Your review is pretty solid and tracks with my experience with it.
The stock cooler on the CPU does get overwhelmed without too much effort. Anyone else buying an Omen highly recommend going for the liquid cooling option.
"Honey, the OEM prebuilt sacrificed the baby to the dark lord!"
"Not again!"
It's a weirdly common issue.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff :o
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my man deals with more demons than the doom guy and an exorcist combined
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"How do you know it was the computer?"
"The nanny hung herself with the power cord."
My gf bought one of these about a year ago or so, right before all the gpu scalping. It has been a great pc so far with no issues at all (her cat actually managed to knock it over and the damn thing is still running very well - nothing broken or out of place). Hers is the 30L variant and came with a gtx 1660 and ryzen 5 3600. It also has wayyy better IO on the back along with better cooling up front. With these HP omens, I'm seeing that they're very hit or miss on some things, but considering how bad prebuilts usually are and how expensive building one is at the moment, I think these can be great PCs
I find with the Omens is that the moment you start sticking beefier GPUs than a 2060( the 2060 super can get a bit toasty if it can't get good amounts of air people forget it's has the PCB and memory config of the ig 2070) in them those thermals become a issue same for the CPUs i5s and the 3600 from work just fine anything more than those parts hot and loud
Fun fact: HP Omen systems are actually made by MSI for HP.
Bruh moment
Damn, thats really cool, thanks for the info. If i may ask, do you have a source?
@@TheAlbaniaGaming source : trust me bro
that cant be true.....alto msi annd hp might use the same OEM for cases
No wonder the case is designed like an oven.
It's great seeing your channel take off so well! I remember when you built the first system from your youtube money, and it was.... lets just call it an "adorable" build. Now you're moving into a studio to film! Big congrats in making it this far!
Lets solve a murder I can help you with that!👍👍
Great video Dawid! I bought one of these Omens last May of 2020 and uploaded a ton of videos on how to replace the cooler and other components. For me, replacing the cooler with a Noctua U9S was the best modification I did. Also using MSI Afterburner for an aggressive GPU fan curve worked really well.
Thank you sooooooo much for mentioning this!!!!
I want to get one of the 25l pcs and try add coolers so thank you
@@mayarunnessa557 I don’t know if you’ve gotten it already but you should go for the 30l or maybe even the 45l, but I don’t know as much about the 45l so do some research on both of them
Thanks
Congrats on the new studio! I’ve been watching this channel ever since it popped up on my suggested page about 5 or 6 months ago and It’s one of my favorite new channels to binge watch. Keep up the good work Dawid!
I’m enjoying the prebuilt reviews. Keep them coming, they are great for recommendations to lesser tech savvy friends and people in my day to day. Thanks.
Get a good Steel Series. I love those keyboards and have owned several over the years, all fantastic.
I bought one a few years back. It did what it needed to. At the time I was too afraid to try and build one myself. I've since pretty much changed everything this side of the card, cpu and motherboard. And those are all next. Crazy how much things can change over a few years confidence wise.
Every upload, I'm excited to watch! Let's go :D
Awesome! Thanks for watching. 😁
Same lol
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Just wondering what monitor did you use in the video
I bought this PC and its my first gaming PC and I love it. I can run almost every game on high settings with zero crashes. The one thing I should note since I bought mine from Amazon I have few different components. I also changed the stock GPU fan and the rear fan and the temps immediately dropped
Awesome! I'm glad to hear you are enjoying your PC. With reduced temperatures it should make fun of great system long term. 👍
How is the audio?
@@mashupworld2570 I use an Astro gaming headset so my audio is good
What GPU and rear fan did you replace them with?
How did you change the GPU fan? I am getting this same pc because of the way the market is right now and would love to have that info in case I need to do that.
Congratulations on growing big enough as a channel to be able to move to a studio ! Can't wait for what's next :)
Thank you so much! It's a very exciting step. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff ever thought of going for a bigger house and having a couple rooms dedicated for this? could save money in the long run
Thank you for the review. Buying this spec for my kid due to budget. Something he can grow with and is worth upgrading as he's gotten into that recently.
I'd actually love to see a video where you go in and upgrade/modify that HP Omen's insides to the point that it doesn't have uncomfortably hot thermals. Sometimes prebuilts are actually very close to being good gaming solutions, but there are a couple of things holding it back.
Check out Dan Kam You Know. He has done pretty much every Mod you can think about to his HP 25L.
Yes thats juat what i want
@@scooter73-i2 Yes DanKamYouKnow is great at showing you every part of the omen and what you can do to improve thermals in the Omen case. Still there is only so much that you can do with the Omen case. I finally upgraded my Omen case to a BeQuiet 802 which is night and day in terms of thermals and looks and it's built like a tank. It's a bit large and has 7x 140mm case fans, but I wanted room to expand for future upgrades so a larger case is what I wanted. DanKam I believe used a Meshify 2 compact for his case swap and that is a very nice case also and is a lot smaller than the BeQuiet 802.
The only thing left from my original HP Omen is the CPU and motherboard. I upgraded the power supply to a Corsair 850 watt, put in a 3060 GPU, upgraded ram, replaced the NVME drive with a WD Black w/heatsink and added 2x Samsung SSDs, upgraded to a Noctua CPU cooler, and upgraded the wifi card to an intel wifi 6 card. My favorite upgrade was the case swap though. It's looks and performs so much better now than the stock Omen case. No more worries about thermal throttling and I can run my i7 CPU at max turbo boost speeds all day and all night now. Whereas the stock Omen case and stock Omen CPU cooler config leads to near instant thermal throttling and decreased performance.
They can be borderline frustrating, BUT! It's absolutely doable. Just need to do some drilling, cutting, bending to get job done sometimes. It's kinda like a dark sould boss. Trial and error, trial and error, until you figure it out, and BEAT THAT FUCKIN BOSS! Or in this case it's obtaining consistent optimal temps.
I’ve been very happy with my 25L. Has a 2060, i7 10700, 16 GB Ram.
Did you have to change out the fans? Or is the temp good with the fans that were already there?
@@Mic_Drop_Coversations my temps have been decent. Doesn't get higher than 60C
@@Johnny-tk9lk do you stream games with ryzen 5?
"Savaging pre-builts" is really one of my favorite new UA-cam categories.
Cheers David! Really amazing how far you've come. More power to you and you the wife!💪
THE way you say E-Waste is very satisfying.
And the way he says thity and PEE-sea... And pretty much everything else.
Dawid has the best intro and background Music i swear
More dense than classic Russian literature 😂
I swear I see you everywhere XD
Why are you everywhere
ah another annoying verified youtuber nobody knows about, commenting on every damn video they find
@@mrducky179 yup they just want likes
Crime and Punishment is a great novel but it is very long, I will agree. Great book though.
Bets of luck with the new studio space. I look forward to seeing the videos. Safe and happy travels!
“I know it’s a small thing but it’s exciting every time”
That’s that she said 😏
LMAO
How did you get access to my email?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff what?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff xD
HP actually putting upgradable parts in a system! Imagine my shock at that 😱
And without even having to use a hacksaw to modify/upgrade?! Hell has truly frozen over!
just bought the newest HP Omen, tried to upgrade the stock 2x8 3200mhz RAM to 4x8gb 3600mhz RAM.... The new ram is locked at 2400mhz and can't be clocked in BIOS x) so much for upgradable
@@Runey7 I think with the last BIOS update they added XMP for memory management. I have the 30L 64Gb (4x16), RTX3080, I9 10900KF 1TB m2 SSD, 2Tb HDD (garbage except for backup files). I couldn't refuse the price $2675 on one week price drop Dec 2021. But like you said there are limits with the motherboard. I can't use the new RTX 40 series, nor Intels new ARC GPUs. I don't think I can upgrade the CPU to a I9 12th or 13th generations. So, except flashy RGB upgrades it's limited at best.
@@bobbyd6680 You're right they do have XMP options and i can choose speeds, but it has no effect the computer just beeps and restarts with the ram at the lowest option :/ oh well..... That's a great price, compared to all the other computers on the market no one could offer the same specs for the low price thats why i also went with it.
3:46 Life pro tip for anyone encountering a hex screw but doesn't have a hex bit: torx works fine too if you have the right size
(You can also use triwing on the weird screws that have a triangle hole, but not as well as torx works with hex)
If I were to give the benefit of the doubt, I think the metal covering the top fan mount is so that the negative pressure in the case doesn't just take air from the top opening. That way the air can maybe come from the bottom opening, which would get some fresh air to the gpu?
Damn, it's been a hot minute since I've heard of actually terrible on-board audio.
I know right? I was really surprised.
my laptop, gigabyte aero 15x, cost 2200$, and has god awful audio. when nothing is playing you can hear the electrical noise through the board. its actually better to just stick to bluetooth most of the time
Audio is 100% garbage. After I reinstalled windows, the audio sounds terrible and has audio delay
@@neru-8852 Hmm. It seems they don't have someone at HP that values audio.
In the old days I always installed xfi pci sound cards, but you can't even do that here.
Let me quickly help you and everyone. So…the motherboard is upgradable but the bios is locked and there’s no xmp so expect all ram to run at worst speed possible. They use the worst cooler possible so expect high temps and to kill your cpu. Most of them come with single channel ram so he got extremely lucky here. The case cannot fit a normal atx board so forget upgrading that way. The power supply is non modular and only has one 4 pin cpu power connector so you can’t use it with new motherboards unless you are cool with low power to cpu or not working at all. One good thing about the suffocating case is low dust. You also have to buy ram directly from hp in order to not run at 2133mhz. Though you can void your warranty and use ryzen master. Everything is basically handicapped by hp’s proprietary motherboard here. The one huge glaring mistake they made. The graphics cards are also hampered by more hp locks to voltage and cheap dies. Thanks for this video bro!
I got one of these but it had a ryzen 5 3500 6 core (no hyper threading), with a 3070 and I found that it was pretty fantastically built minus a few minor gripes
did u switch it out cause i’m scared to or how does that work? i’m
kinda new to this stuff. i heard it’s great with the Ryzen 5 3600x
@@elizabethhh221 left it in, its good
Its nice seing small channels do things that are more leaning towards budget builds then the classic MAX SPEC GAMING PC (LTT ESPECIALLY) since the majority of us will be buying what dawid reviews .
Box reminds me of the Sony Playstation interactive logo thing
I own an upgraded version of this model, with an AIO, a front fan, and a RTX 2080 Super. HP OMEN makes great pre-builts, ideal for people who are transitioning from console to pc (like I did) and don’t feel comfortable building a pc
This comment!!! I’m transitioning to pc from console and saw this available at my local staples! Safe to say I will be purchasing tomorrow
Hey can you show me what upgrades you have specifically??
@@Luceium01 sure. Besides the graphics card I have an Intel Core i7-10700K, 32 GB Memory, and 2 TB of extra storage
10:15 made me burst out laughing LOL. "It's not gonna release the ghost of tutankhamun which comfortably puts it ahead of an Acer or Dell system"
Great video as always!
Congratulations on the new studio!
Even if that 3060 is OEM and has just one fan, it looks slick
Oh but that shroud is gonna make it run extremely hot. The shroud blocks airflow, as you can see, it extends all the way to the pcb, so no air can escape the fin stack. Simply horrible.
@@yanuehara8017 hot air purgatory
Get 30L it runs ok
Get a better case it will be fine
@@C0ZYL4ZY no. It won't. Have you seen the waifu gpu? That shit is less restrictive than this and performed horribly even on open bench.
dawid:WE ARE MOVING TO A STUDIO
me: yep she had enough and kicked him out
Great way to start your Saturday
Holy shit it’s Saturday
I have a pc like this one ( more upgraded one) and it works amazing. These pc are awesome. I have always wanted to build a pc but instead got this since it had great specs which were almost exactly like I wanted and with this you could actually get a graphics card ( at the current time graphics cards were either way overpriced or unavailable).
Easily one of the more entertaining tech guys out there. I’m never disappointed with your content, D!
HP isn't messing up with their OMEN line where DELL is messing up in Alienware
Dual RAM stick is always the most important part of any pre-built system.
Who cares if it's hot because of lack of airflow?
Just take side panel of and let's go! :D
arent they in the wrong slots ?
@@Batyalas it wouldve worked, just not with the benefits of dual channel config
@@Batyalas my mom always told me to put them in B and D to close circut.
@@PerezBSclan It is an OEM mb so it probably doesn't matter where you put the Ram
@@pokewtf906 The ram, when using 2 sticks, should have a gap between them, so you either put the ram in slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. The RAM should occupy A1 and B1 or A2 and B2.
i was just looking at this prebuilt system and i found this video, actual perfect timing
Omen: an event regarded as a portent of good or evil. HP naming their prebuilt OMEN tells you everything you need to know about the system before you even buy it.
It was already called Omen before HP bought them out they were at one point really high end more of custom setups look up some old omens you'll see
Haha!! I nearly made a "Bad Omen" joke but held myself back 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff why didnt u im disapointed lol
Iv had multiple omen pre built and they are actually amazing.
I got a HP OMEN only a few weeks ago and really pleased i got on for £1500 ($2100) with a 3080 and a i7 10700k, which was a steal.
Its got great temps but mines got 1 beefy front fan at bottom so that helps with gpu temps.
That is one of the saddest looking rear IO’s i’ve ever seen
It looks naked
Especially when you consider the build it's in...sad indeed.
overpriced prebuilt crap
Ikr! My Compaq tower from '98 has more rear io!
I have an Omen Obelisk and it is basically identical. I installed a top 120mm exhaust fan on the bracket and also a 120 mm intake on the bottom vents. This helped some, but ultimately the only way I could keep the CPU temps in check and avoid thermal throttling was to install the NOctua U9S chromax cpu cooler. This changed the whole game.
what psu do you have, want to do the same but want to avoid changing that if possible.
@@BradTheRoy The setup worked fine with the stock 500 watt power supply that came with the Omen.
@@Wigglythegreat2 appreciate the fast reply!
@@BradTheRoy 👍
Never in a million years did I think I’d see a picture of Dostoyevsky in one of your videos. Wow...
Just FYI Omen gaming HUB is not bloat wear my dude. It's used to fine tune the fan speed, overclocking and under volting. If someone buys an Omen and it does not have the gaming hub, you'll almost fine every time they go looking for it to tune their PC.
Also, who care about bloatware. If you can't take 5 minutes out of your busy day to just go to the (Add or remove programs) then you shouldn't really be using a PC in the first place. I have never fussed over it and I am sure many others don't really care. We want to see how the PC runs, if the parts match the price, that sort of stuff.
Love how Dawid say the CPU cooler looks like a stock intel cooler when it actually looks like a standard Wraith Stealth Ryzen cooler with the AMD logo replaced with Omen .
The Ryzen ones are made by cooler master, and I would not doubt this is too, especially since the PC has a cooler master power supply.
I can say from personal experience, it doesn't cool like a Ryzen cooler... It barely cools at all. That was the first thing I did when I got mine, getting a real CPU cooler...
Either way it's a fail as a cooler.
With PCs like this you should straight up take the side panel off just to see how much better it does
Or replace it with a fine mesh. Keep it clean from bugs and some bigger dust particles but allow air to get it.
In my case this would work considering how cold the room I play in is. 62 degrees f°
Grats on the new studio! Also when LTT did their pre built secret shopping I recall them pointing out HP omens had a bios power limit on the cpu hindering its overall performance ie their 2070 system was being beat out by a 2060 system because the cpu was power limited.
Fun fact that top panel you think is blocking the vent. those lil plus marks on it are for a philips screw driver to twist the lil squares out to free up the ventilation for a 120mm fan or 120mm AIO.
How fitting...
My omen laptop also used to run hot and they claimed that's normal. Their cooling solutions suck and now I find out their towers also run hot... I will just stay away from omen forever 🤣
What would you go with instead?
I suck at building anything. I suck at the most simple forms of cable management for keyboards and stuff. I would mess up so hard.
So i paid for my system to be build with the stuff i want (as long as it is compatible). I paid a bit more OFC but now i have great cable management and a perfectly build system in general :D No bloatware, no bullshit.
But i assume if you really try hard and look out for reviews then you can definitely find a prebuild from one of the mainbrands thats worth the money.
I would never go gaming laptop again though, had 2 - both were just heating elements for my apartment and my hands (ouch) and the OMEN was the worst offender.
I love my Omen! i7 12700kf 3060ti ddr4 3200mhz. I'm getting nearly 200fps on Deadspace with Ultra graphics. Absolutely incredible.
So a thing about that plate is the top of the case it can be removed once it’s removed you have to push the four plates out then you can either add a 120 mm radiator or 120 mm fan and also I found out the hard way that AIO wouldn’t fit on my motherboard and broke my motherboard I’ve been out of the computer for about four months due to the part shortage
That sucks
Airflow issues aside, I really like that style of case. Understated and sleeper-ish.
Just add fans top and bottom its an awesome pc.
Three years on, I'm glad you've done a way with any traces of gratitude and humility. 😅
Am I seeing things, or is that case fan in the back not turning? It's at 9:07
I bought an hp omen 40l a few months ago and I have zero complaints
Try ABS prebuilt,I have heard they’re pretty good!!
@UCA356mNVFHPq4TfyyrAY_bQ no one is going to believe you, we’re not 7 years old :/
Those are the systems he recommended at 10:03 lol
I just picked one of these up with a All AMD setup for $1000 in 2022. So I'm pretty happy.
It’s worth noting that you can add fans in the bottom, since the motherboard actually has a spare header. It’s also possible to remove the metal plate over the top vent
Yes you can add a fan to the top, there’s a good noctua fan from Amazon that you can add easily
@@voltahlh5440 Been there, done that. Although it certainly helps, this case just wasn't designed with good airflow in mind.
@@Wigglythegreat2 should I cop this 25L and make some fixes like people are suggesting? Or just go ahead and build one at my local memory express shop?
@@Roxus1 knowing what I know about them now, I would build my own.
Had two of them. They both kerlnel41 errored and crashed on me. Gave them back. They were living up to their name.
Not going to lie, the Omen might be a good option for me, considering the fact that the stock market isn't really stable so far, might consider it if it is good!
What prebuilt would you recommend me as an option for gaming and 3D rendering?
Get your hands on an older model, and beef that bad boy up. I personally recommend the Obelisk 875-0070.
I am also looking for something similar.
Maybe run a raid or 2 in Destiny every once in awhile but also something that can handle multiple rendering programs.
Maybe not simultaneous D2 and rendering programs but a machine capable of those things when it calls for it
I have a 5+ year old Omen I got on sale at BB for like $1,200. I7 7700 with a 1070fe and 16gb memory, it's been running pretty much 10+ hours a day all those years, mostly running shooters. It has 1 fan, and gets it's air through the side panel that has holes in it. I'd say temps are close to what you found, but considering how ruff of a life it's lived so far, and that nothing has broken. I would defiantly say it was worth it's value.
I'm curious david. What do you do with these prebuilts after? do you mod them or keep them for parts, or do you re-sell them or return them? I hope you reply, thanks!
It's impossible to not like your videos man, i watch them religiously..
I don't know why, but every time Dawid says "cooler", I smile.
i actually have this pc and its very nice, little toasty but with a ram upgrade and a very soon gpu and cpu upgrade, i am happy of how this pc is built!
For the longest time I thought your name was pronounced "darwid" but now I realize it's "darvid"
It’s actually pronounced “Your Excellency.”
Some people put the last "d" in the first place and the first "d" in the last place.
Beware of that.
@@MdAsif-gb1sj I like to put the D at either end 😏
My family didn't know what to get me for Christmas so they got me this lol, I've built quite a few computers in the past year and seeing this build out of box in person dear lord am I so hyped to fix this poor pre-built, Temps are big thing to me i want to be as COOL AS POSIBLE
I love how they just cheap out on everything.
Loved the video. Congrats on the new place! Looking forward to the blog 😊
8:18 Ah yes, don't we all love to play on the "Med" preset...
I do, but god its rtx 3060 it should be on high atleast
I bought a 30L Omen : 10700k@5.16 watercooled / 3090@ 2000 oc / 1 To nvme.m2 / 32GB@ 3200 / 750 PW / windows 10 included… low temps… huge noise…
GREAT PC for 3.300€… especially when you can’t find a 3090 below 2.500€…
The tilted Intel Sticker drives me nuts.
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT AAAAAAAA
Same it is crazy
If anyone is looking at this CPU, they've made some updates to it since then. The case has better airflow on the front. The CPU cooler is now a much stronger model. And the GPU most notably just has the issue of needing to change the fan curve (HP's default fan curve is abysmal, changing it in MSI Afterburner to something more reasonable will dramatically improve temps). After pulling the bracket around the GPU (there for shipping, not for support) it won't hit above 70 celcius even under extreme load. Genuinely can have a solid price-to-performance if you get it on a good sale--I got one where it would've cost me several hundred dollars more to build myself.
"It actually uses hex screws"
*Zooms in on Torx/flathead screw*
I work at a Best Buy and we never sell Omen stuff. We're a shipping hub for the east coast and we don't even ship out what we have in stock.
Hey! Did you increase the Bitrate in the sound control panel? Alot of systems ship with very very low audio settings enabled by default. Believe me even my thinkpad from 2006 could handle maximum audio settings.
Congrats on the new studio Dawid. I'm in England but have a mate in Canada and many friends in the Welshness. Been watching for a couple of years now and it's truly satisfying to watch a fellow guitar player and PC tinkerer do his stuff and get recognition for it. Love seeing the channel progress dude - all the best to you and your partner!
Excellent similies in this one, *fantastic* work! I hope you're giving yourself a pat on the back for your continued creativity ^_^
Thank you so much! Very nice of you to comment. 😁
I bought the Omen 25L with the RTX 3060 Ti and Ryzen 7 5700G 3 days ago , I must say I'm actually impressed with it so far . Please bear in mind I upgraded from an i3 4140 and GTX 960 .
how is it now?
@@docn1ght ryzen master to keep temps low and upgraded the ram to 32gb. I do enjoy this pc but the temps are the biggest issue, right now I get the temps to below 60 degrees on mass load so pretty impressed. However I do NOT recommend this PC to anyone who knows nothing about computers. The price is the best thing about the Omen I mean Ryzen 7 and RTX 3060ti for £1300. Most pcs with that spec are almost if not over £2000.
My brother is getting me one the same spec ure listing you got any tip i should do once I turn it on? I'm getting it for Xmas
I have the 30L with the R5-5600G and 3060. The front of the case is actually vented well and has a decent fan. I will agree 100% about the on board audio… how on earth did they break that but have an otherwise decently built system?
Thinking about getting that exact system, how’s is it? Does it also run really hot like this one?
@@eternityvisuals2758 The CPU, GPU, SSD, and power supply are all happily living in new machines. The rest was thrown away rather quickly. Memory was locked at 2400, on board audio was really terrible, motherboard was a stripped OEM with no real expansion, the case RGB was proprietary to that motherboard, and the single intake fan behind the glass didn’t do well on thermals. For an average user, this machine may be great, but it had limitations that didn’t work for my use case.
It is nice to hear someone actually discuss audio, which the Gary in me thinks is important. Cheers
Lol those front "vents" are completely blocked from the inside.
Just watch a couple more minutes.
I’ve got the HP Omen Laptop. From 2016. Things still a beast for what it is.
HP always deserves the “most bloatware” award
No definitely dell and after Acer and them hp
Best hp product...It's help for gaming computer at the same time it's helpful work such as animation, design etc..Etc...Nice content😍👍
It's a nice looking prebuilt, shame about the airflow and terrible mb outputs 🤔 also that cpu cooler looks suspect too 😏
My Pavilion Gaming actually seems to have a better cooler than this one too haha
I'm on my second omen laptop first one was a 15 inch 1080p with a I7 6700hq and a GTX 970 with 2400 MHz ddr4 now I'm on my new one a 15 inch with a Ryzen 7 5800h and a Rtx 3070 with 1080p 144hz display and dual channel 3200 MHz ddr4 from the factory I love it
9:00 beware have heard even the liquid cooler has garabage temps
It is only a 120mm crap one at that so no surprise
The water inside a loop will absorb heat quite well with short-burst workloads but a 120mm radiator will definitely not provide enough heat dissipation for a freaking 5800X.
The liquid cooler most likely has garbage temps on a productivity workload yes.
I have the Omen 30L with the Liquid Cooler and front 120 mm intake. Has by far better temps than this. I'm usually in the 60's in a game like Fallout 4, Mass Effect, and low 70's in Cyberpunk 2077 with a 10700K and 2070 Super. HP skimped on the 25L, though there tons of modification channels like DanKnowYourStuff etc. that includes removing bracket at the top, placing intake fans on the dust filter, and changing the AIO cooler.
@@carlosgarciasanchez well at least your model has an intake
@@carlosgarciasanchez your forgetting you have a front intake fan take that away and your temps will be higher
I got this 25L with an i5 10400f, 2060, and 16gb RAM.
I immediately removed that metal plate on the underside and put another fan in.
Then I used the space around the bottom near the front for another fan.
It runs OK, and I've had no heating/cooling issues at all.
Now, I will admit, had I known then what I know now about pc building and been more informed in general, I might have bought the parts and built one myself.
That said, for the price (about 900 quid) and the simplicity of the "out of the box" nature, it is a good entry into pc gaming...in my opinion.
i literally just bought this pc :'((
Don't worry I own one with a 1660 super...I love it... no problems...it doesn't run hot either...
You can add a 120mm fan to the top mounting bracket as exhaust and you can also put a 120mm fan as intake at the bottom of the case. Make sure you have clearance under the case and it's not on carpet.
Just pulled all the useful components out of an Omen 30L for a friend after two board failures in less than a year. It must have gotten really hot in there, because when I went to pull the secondary drive, an HDD, the plastic drive caddy basically disintegrated.
The only other time I've had something like that happen is while working on cars.
But credit where it's due, the components were of good quality, they just housed them in a garbage case.
If that's what their 3060 looks like imagine other cards. I know the HP 1060 looks like a 730.
Here, let me help with that, seven-thuddy. :-P
Hey I have the 3070 model it’s runs wayyy lower then this mine comes is the 30L model tho with the aio
Atleast a hp gt 1030 looks lıke an gt 1030
having an hp rx 580 and looks like 460
I've got this with the 3060ti and it is slightly larger with 2 fans. I put it in a case with proper airflow and it runs cool. No issues after 2-3 months of mining when I'm not gaming.
I bought the 30L with the 1660S last year when I got into PC gaming. This is the computer that got me into PC gaming. I upgraded as I went and built my own PC as time went on with a 4000D airflow.
I hated my omen and it looks like they never improved terrible intakes.