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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- In depth Alpine iLX-507 review by @carstereochick In this video I unpack all the nitty gritty details including the quirks and perks of the Alpine iLX-507. How responsive is the touch screen? Is it really HD? How well does Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto work? How easy is it to switch between devices? Are Alpine's multi-view HD front and rear camera's really worth the premium price? You be the judge as I compare it to the Rydeen CM-HD4 and Kenwood CMOS-740HD.
Want to know what Alpine's RUX-H02 Halo Knob is all about? Check it out here. Can you really use two composite camera's or do you need any additional parts? What is the new EQ section like? That and SO much more is covered in this in depth Alpine iLX-507 review.
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My second video of yours I came across browsing around for a new head unit…
Seriously, excellent work! You’re not just in depth and well versed, but you’re also honest! That goes a long way with anyone.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the kind words!!
You make EXCELLENT reviews love your content.
Thank you SO much for the kind and encouraging comment.
Thank you! The boot time demonstration is very helpful.
You're welcome :) So glad to hear that was helpful!
Having this installed by a local shop as I type this, came here to get familiar with the unit. Thank you! Very helpful.
Thank you for watching! Be sure to ask the shop if they can update the firmware for you if needed. Latest version is 5.0. Enjoy!
@@carstereochick Was that the update that added Tidal? If so they did, I will have to check. So far I've been enjoying it very much
Been waiting for you to review the new Alpines... Need to stop by soon to check them out. Thanks!
Thanks RC - yes, definitely stop by and check it out! I don't have the iLX-F509 on display yet, but soon. I have a Jensen CAR 910X on clearance I gotta move before I put that one up ;)
I'm impressed by your review. You just don't go over specs like other people do. I love the timing of the boot up and the BT connection. I like watching an honest review! So my hats off to you! I was seriously considering this head unit, unfortunately I think the touch screen responsiveness and multiple device connectivity issue would drive me nuts after awhile. Thanks for the video!
Thank you SO much! I really appreciate your kindness and taking the time to share with me :)
Hello! Great review! How is the screen for smudges and fingerprints? I had a Kenwood that was a magnet. Ugh. I hope this one is much better!
I agree, your Review woke us up and saved us from thinking.... Oh, ALPINE!!! It has to be the best because they used to put these in lamborghini's..... well, now days you'd probably see them in KIA's....
Nice job on the video and review/overview of the product! Was thinking of upgrading from my iLX-407 to this unit solely on the wireless Carplay availability, but two things give me pause: the screen responsiveness issues you noted, and the completely abandonment of support for PowerPack amps. If I went with this model, I'd have to find a way to jerry rig something to mount the amp elsewhere. Kind of a bummer that they don't have an adapter that can mount the PowerPack horizontally on the stereo or something. Oh, well. Happy with my unit other than the lack of wireless Carplay, so will likely just stay with it. Thanks, and keep the great content coming...!
Thanks so much Rob, I really appreciate your encouraging feedback! I agree I thought it was weird that they didn't do the shallow chassis to accommodate the power pack. I was disappointed to see that when I first opened up the box. I'm guessing it has something to do with the size of the components that enable the wireless functionality? But not too sure. You could definitely relocate the amp if you really wanted to upgrade, but I hear you especially when you consider the screen responsiveness. More content coming this weekend on the new Sony XAV-AX4000 and XAV-AX6000! Thanks again :)
I just installed mine. You’re right. It can be quirky, but I love it so far. My biggest gripe is that it looks like I’ll need to upgrade my SXM tuner as the one I was using with my ILX-207 is incompatible with the ILX-507. Thanks for the video!
Yes, thanks for pointing that out!!! I didn't realize that until we did an upgrade for someone and that's when I found out the older SXV200 tuner was not compatible. So glad to hear you're enjoying it, it does have a ton of fantastic features! Enjoy :)
Great review! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I just bought this exact unit. It works great. The screen is responsive and fast. Date is November 2023. Seems all quirks have been addressed.
True! There have been quite a few software updates since this video was posted. I do still have trouble with the EQ page responsiveness, but that's about it. I'm so glad you're enjoying it!
How picky are you about responsiveness? I am debating on buying the alpine radio but I am OCD and not sure I could handle that over a long term.
@@donaldbelcher1356 everything works as expected except the eq page. That does take a few presses sometimes. But other than that, it's a great unit. The sound is excellent and that is what matters in the end. That is why I bought an alpine. For sound quality.
Do you ever think they will fix that major glitch with the eq!? It's been over a year and like you said a few updates since then and yet no fix for this? It's the number 1 thing about my unit that drives me nuts and people are like wtf? And you bought it broken like that? Come on Alpine you can do better than this! Carsteriochick can you or have you reaches out to Alpine about it? I tried...got no reply of course. Not impressed with their customer service.
Do you get any ground loop noise from it ? Just issued a return for my INE-w970hd unit for that reason and cd player didn’t work
Bottom of touch panel finish seems low-end given the price point. Volume knob should be more widely implemented by other manufacturers, great addition for the 90s cars that missed the SWC era.
It's not I swear. I bought it and the dit and finish is superb!
Hello!! Thank you very much for the review, I have the miss unit and I have not had the response problem on the touch screen.
Big difference of this unit playing Tidal vs. Apple Music the dis in Hi Res Tidal version is superior. Greetings
Awesome freaking video👍🏾
Thank you so much for the kind words!
I bought an ILX-507 and ended up returning it out of frustration over the poor screen response and overall poor interface system. I had so many issues with AA disconnecting. I was very lucky and saw the DMX958XR come out on Jan 1st and requested an exchange through Crutchfield. I only wish that the 958 had something similar to the ILX-507 BT knob...
So glad I wasn't the only one that noticed the weird screen responsiveness! Nice choice with the DMX958XR. Did you ever try out the Halo BT knob with the Alpine? I recently learned that knob doesn't auto-reconnect. Apparently you're supposed to tap the knob every time you start up the vehicle in order for them to re-connect? I did NOT see that in the pairing guide, but heard Alpine say this at a recent training. I feel that is a serious design flaw.
@@carstereochick Good info. Probably to save on the battery for the knob. While I like their attempt to use no wires, I'd much rather prefer a more permanent install and always connected experience that doesn't require battery changes.
hi just a quick note to say you can update the start up screen on this unit we had to do some research but a service tech from alpine contacted us and gave us the run down to do it we will be uploading a video on how to do it all that said great review I love the unit paired up with a set of hertz 3 ways 😃
Hi i know this one was old review, but how you compare these one vs kenwood dmx958xr?? Especially pair with dsp amp
Love your review! Now, I have a very unusual thing going on with this head unit. I am using apple carplay with my apple iphone 15 and cannot go from carplay direct to FM stereo. The system will not actually allow me to play FM stereo and it cuts out. No idea why. If I go carplay > phone > FM stereo then no issue. Any ideas on how to fix?
I have the ilx-w650 and I run into some of the same problems but what is the difference between the two
Thanks for the video, there is a lot of useful information. I'd like to know if the general speed of the 507 is the same as the 509.
The 509 has a higher quality screen, I find it to be more responsive than the 507. As far as load up time and switching between pages/sources, they both have the same operating system so I haven't really noticed any difference in that regard.
Can we buy the kenwood camera and connect it to the Alpine using adapters?
Amazing video what what backup camera was thr best for this unit ?
Thanks so much for watching! That's tough. The Alpine high res HCE-C2100RD camera I think is kind of washed out in color compared to other options, but it can be helpful to have that multi-view function so it sort of depends on what you most need it for. If you're towing, it's helpful to have that top down view option that comes with the Alpine HCE-C2100RD. For a universal high quality reverse camera, we do a lot with the Rydeen CM-HD4.
Love this! Would you recommend this or a Kenwood DDX9707s in an 02 Escalade? Would like to keep steering wheel controls. Planning on adding a 12” R series sub with an amp, and the R series 3 way system with an amp. Debating on adding backup camera, apple carplay is highly important to me.
Does your Escalade have a rear seat entertainment system where you load the DVD in the front unit? If so, and you want to retain it, you're probably better off with the Kenwood. It does have dual zone and the necessary DVD player. You'll be able to retain the steering wheel controls and utilize Apple CarPlay wirelessly with either option and either head unit will sound great with that set up. I've been really impressed with the whole R line series - speakers, subs and their amps too!
so may i wask what the difference between the ilx 705 and the 705D is? besides a digital amp?
Can you change the color of the buttons??
Thank you for the video. Every time you make a video about Alpine you talk about software update how often do you have to update the software and how difficult is it? If you can, would you please give me a small bit of detailed information on this.
Thank you for the video. I have one question. Would I use a single din or double din dash kit to install this style head unit?
You're welcome! Double din kit.
Wow, thanks for this great review -- so helpful during my decision to buy! After using it for a month, in general I agree it's a great unit. I particularly like the hardware buttons below display.
You're spot on re: "quirkiness". Like your customer mentioned @16:00, I too have a '17 Forester and got a Maestro along with the iLX-507. The quirk that drives me bonkers is that steering wheel controls are inactive/ignored until a button on iLX-507 such as +/ - / mute is pushed. Have you heard lots of complaints about that one? Not sure if it its an Alpine bug, RR interaction issue, etc.
I'm so glad your found it helpful! I have not run into that with the steering wheel controls not being active until you press a button on the radio. Interesting. Do you have the latest firmware on the stereo? Might want to try re-flashing the Maestro RR. If you do that, flash it for something totally different like a 2015 VW Jetta or something and then re-flash it for your car. For some reason re-flashing it like that for a totally different vehicle 1st seems to work better than just re-flashing it for the same vehicle.
@@carstereochick, I've recently found reviews & forum posts by others having this same problem - it seems that update to the latest 5.0.000+ firmware is actually what breaks things! I myself did the 5.0.001 update right out of the box, and there doesn't seem to be a way to downgrade.
ADS (Maestro) responded today saying that Alpine has been made aware of this bug in their firmware, and that availability of another update with a fix is TBD. I get the impression that steering wheel events sent to Alpine via idatalink interface are now ignored until/unless one of those iLX-507 buttons are pushed (sleeping at the wheel, so to speak ;-).
Thanks for the suggestion though!
Was waiting for this review to come up and voila! Great job.
Would love to hear your views about the sound quality compared to the earlier models as this one utilizes a built-in fully digital amp.
Keep up the good work! 💖
Thank you so much Zak!!! I truly appreciate your words of encouragement and recognition 🙏 I think I spent a little over 20 hours on this one all in 😬 so that means a lot to me!!
Great question on SQ compared to earlier models. I will discuss that in my next video 😉
They don’t list it as wireless for Android Auto, only for Carplay, so that’s that mystery solved.
@Johnathan Doe huh? They clearly list this as compatible with wireless Android Auto:
"Works with both wired and wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay"
@@GaryBe403 Alpine 100% haven’t made any head units with wireless Android yet.
I can’t find many listings for the 507 as it’s been replaced by the ilx 705D. The Alpine-Asia webpage for the ILX-507 states:
“The new ingenious 1 DIN design for 7-inch capacitive display audio, 7-inch display with CarPlay Wireless and Android.”
So that’s saying, only the Carplay is wireless, just not very clearly (could’ve done with an Oxford comma after the word wireless).
I think there’s been some misunderstandings with resellers due the ambiguity.
The newer ilx-705D’s marketing blurb is a bit clearer about the Android being wired only:
“Enjoy wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto (wired)”
@@Jonathan_Doe_ you are wrong. Look at the user manual for this model off Alpine's website. It is full of information about wireless Android Auto.
Hello
Do you know where I can get the cable to connect on my car 2022 Nissan Frontier sv with out fender? I want to change the radio and I don’t want to do a lot work with wires, I just want plug and play.
Thank you
thanks for the review... I know it is 2 years ago. I am planning to buy this for my 2017 fiat 500c. I pretty much have to buy this version because is has the same shape as my factory radio (big on bottom) so it does not mess up my ac vents. I am an Android Auto guy, I would request give a little more attention for that in future (will i need gps antenna to do android auto wireless ?). I am buying this because it has TWO usbs (one for android and the other for usb music folders). I am also buying this for HD radio which I love. I will buy the idata maestro to keep all my steering controls. btw... your eyes are gorgeous.
Thank you for the in depth video, exactly what I was looking for! @carstereochick Has the software been updated since this was shot and if so has it helped with some of the quirkiness?
I'm so glad you found it helpful! I have updated software since, but that doesn't appear to help with the screen responsiveness issue. It does address connectivity issues. I haven't gotten any feedback from clients on how that update is working out, but I did an update how to video on this one and I recall someone in the comments saying the update really helped improve performance.
@@carstereochick thank you for the quick reply! I'm stuck between this and the Sony XAV-AX6000 which I'm now leaning towards because it seems to have a more responsive/faster loading screen and I don't need all the extra eq options or front camera on the Alpine
I do think the Sony is more responsive/accurate to touch, but not quite as vibrant/bright. The Sony is a great value, very popular right now at the shop.
I have an oem front camera on my Toyota rav4. Do I need to get anything extra to toggle between my front and rear camera ?
Ooh, that's a good question. Really good question. I would reach out to iDatalink directly because this is sort of a gray area where I think iDatalink is actually handling the switching if it's an OEM set up. Not sure the year of your vehicle, but the install guide for a 2018 shows it retains the 360 camera and I only see the reverse camera input being used in the install guide.
Ran into this recently with a Kenwood DMX709s we installed in a Subaru that had an OEM rear camera and park sensors. The screen kept getting taken over by the park sensor/camera display after shifting out of reverse into drive even though the park sensor display was separate from the radio and not actually detecting anything. We had to disable the park distance sensor option from the Maestro so it would stop overriding the Kenwood display. But it wasn't even a Kenwood that supported smart park or camera assignment settings. In some cars these things are being handled all by the Maestro which is what was happening in the Subaru and in others (like a Honda with blind spot camera) I've had to use a more advanced Kenwood stereo that supported camera assignment settings in the radio.
Thank you for this review!! Now that this has been out for a bit, has firmware fixed the screen responsiveness issues? I'm considering one of these but the interface seems kind of miserable.
Thanks for watching! There have been quite a few firmware updates since this video was released which resolved most of the connectivity issues my clients had with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, but it has not had any effect on the EQ page responsiveness unfortunately.
@carstereochick Thank you for saving me the trouble. Thinking Kenwood is the way then.
wow that touch screen lag / unresponsiveness would drive me absolutely bonkers. Ive watched a few reviews of this unit, and nobody else has called it out explicitly even though you could kinda see the issue in their demos. Thanks for being upfront abut it - its definitely a deal breaker for me.
I'm so glad you found this information helpful! I agree, it drives me absolutely nuts. Especially since the EQ is reset after firmware updates so I'm constantly having to go into this menu for clients and re-enter all their settings.
Thanks for the review! Quick question... are the Kenwood cameras plug and play with the alpine harness, or do you need to buy an adapter?
Thanks. Great question. That is a sweet camera isn't it? That Kenwood CMOS-740HD camera only works with select Kenwood models that feature a high resolution display and 4 camera inputs. Such as the DMX958XR, DMX957XR, DNX997XR, DDX9907XR, DMX1037s, DMX1057XR and DNR1007R.
Are there any non-Alpine, higher quality, HD cameras that work well with the Alpine 507 or 509 headunits?
The Kenwood HD camera image looks great, but I was leaning towards the Alpine 509, except for that camera quality issue.
Kept reading the comments and saw your answer in another thread.
“ For a universal high quality reverse camera, we do a lot with the Rydeen CM-HD4.”
Thanks for putting so much effort in the comments to put in detailed replies!
First off, excellent reviews, thank you!! Have you done a comparison of the Alpine iLX-507 (with latest firmware update) vs Kenwood DMX-958XR? Although the Kenwood is a bit more in cost, is it worth the difference? I've been an old school Alpine (9887), but ready to step into the next generation! :)
Hi Jeff, thanks! I have not done a side by side with the 507 latest firmware and 958XR. I should. Previously I had done a side by side with the 507 and the DMX1057XR. Personally, John and I both preferred the sound of the Kenwood, but they're both great options and very similar. If you look at the EQ curve in our other iLX-507 video, John basically got the Alpine to sound nearly identical to the Kenwood. It's just the 507 seemed a bit thin to us with everything flat. So in that sense the 507 is a great buy because you can really fine tune it to your liking. What drives me bonkers is the lack of responsiveness when you're on the screen when you're in that EQ menu!
PS - One of my favorite single din decks I ever had was a CDA-7995 and I also had a CDA-9887. Good stuff.
@@carstereochick thanks so much for your opinion, very helpful. I’ve been a long time user of Alpine, but after seeing how intuitive the Kenwood was and how quickly the screen response was, it may be worth the extra dollars. Again, thank you! Great, honest reviews!
Your channel is so helpful! I'm trying to decide on a new headunit for my 2006 Corvette and it's between this Alpine ILX-507 and the Kenwood Excelon DMX958XR. I think it's honestly down to the boot sequence for me and the fact you can't disable the warning and "agree" menu on a Kenwood. The Alpine does that right in my opinion. For sound quality, it seems like the Kenwood takes the win. GUI on the Alpine seems to be worlds better to me. I can't stand the variable font sizes on the Kenwood that look so goofy in certain menus. I honestly really like the look of the Sony interface, but reviews seem to indicate a never ending string of bugs and partial fixes in firmware updates. I also don't like how Sony only does wireless CarPlay and not wired as an option. Man.. seems like no one has the perfect headunit without cons. Hopefully your channel accurately pointing out these cons across the industry results in improvement across the board.
Thank you so much for your kind words!! You've really summed it up well and this is something I go over with clients all the time because no one really makes the perfect head unit. You really have to weigh what features are most important to you. I have to say I haven't had any clients experience any bugs or connectivity issues with Sony, but the display is much more vibrant on the Kenwood. I was thinking of putting the XAV-9000ES in my own car. I do think it's weird that it's wireless only, but that's another option to consider.
Can that camera button default to the front camera? I'll be adding one to my car and don't mind having an alpine up front while retaining my OEM rear camera
Yes, at least on my display that's how it works. The camera button will go to whichever camera I selected last.
I’d like to know if a firmware update corrected the touchscreen issues. I was considering this over the 407 for a 2nd USB and wireless CarPlay. After seeing the way the screen responds I don’t think I want this model ?
The firmware update does not have any effect on the screen responsiveness unfortunately. The 407 and 650 are more responsive to touch, but lack a lot of the more desirable audio features found in the 507. If you step up to to the 509 or 511, those are definitely more responsive to touch like the 407 and 650.
is the screen adjustable up and down? so if its not exactly where I need it I can move it some up or down, or even side to side?
No, this will working in a standard double din chassis, no motorized/adjustable angle screen or anything like that.
I know i brought up before what u think of that kenwod 958xr vs sony 9000es?
Haven't done a side by side comparison as I'm not a Mobile ES dealer yet. We are considering it. In fact my next video will be on some Sony Mobile ES speakers!
I just bought the Ilx-507. I bought two non-alpine cameras, one for the front and one for the rear. I used two of the alpine to RCA connectors. These connectors only have two wires in them. I wired the car's reverse line into the deck. In the camera interface only camera 1 is enabled but is greyed out. Camera 2 (front) will not enable. I can swap the cables and both camera's will work but only one at a time but only as camera 1 (rear) input. Why won't camera 2 enable in the interface? Both of these camera's only have the two RCA wires running to them. There are no separate power lines running to them, but the camera connected to rear (camera 1) works. What am I missing? Why does the front camera input not want to enable and turn on?
When you go into the camera settings are you able to toggle the front camera input on/off? Do you have the parking brake connected and engaged?
Do you know if Alpine has released the GPS for this unit yet? I read somewhere it could be added on, but I haven't been able to find any more details.
Not yet. At a recent product training they provided an updated ETA of Summer 2023 :(
What to get for 3 cameras ? right / left / rear ? in a dual din? Thx for sharing
What kind of car? Do you need Maestro compatibility? Kenwood DMX908s or DMX958XR both have 4 camera inputs (assignable) and are Maestro compatible.
Hey, I have a 2013 Durango with the factory DVD and rear screen, does this headunit allow for me to play video from a USB drive to my rear OEM monitor and allow the sound for that video to be played through the OEM wireless headsets, while still playing music through the main system? Also, does this play Dolby Atmos audio files from Tidal?
No, this radio does not have an A/V out for the USB. I also don't believe it has dual zone, you would need that too. It does have an HDMI input and HDMI output, but I don't know if you could adapt that output to composite/RCA and pipe it into your RSE.
Typically when I have a client vehicle with RSE and we want to retain it, I go to www.idatalinkmaestro.com/en and look up the vehicle to see if RSE can be retained. If it can, we usually go with a Kenwood radio that has a DVD player and Dual Zone. This way you pop the DVD in the front player and audio is routed to the rear monitor/headphones and you can still use SiriusXM or Apple CarPlay up front. In that set up your audio goes to the front speakers, audio to the rear speakers is defeated and works thru the wireless headphones.
I actually don't see RSE listed in the application guide for this vehicle, BUT they do list the accessory AVCH1 which can be used to retain RSE, but it can also be used to retain the back up camera in some models. I would call them for clarification, because it's not 100% clear to me if you can retain it in this car. Sometimes they don't know either and what we do is disconnect the radio and see if the system still operates as a stand alone through the headphones only. Did that recently for a client with a newer Chrysler Town & Country. His player was separate, below the radio up front and only worked thru the wired headphone inputs once the radio was removed.
Where exactly is the DVD player in your car? Is it part of the radio? Up front, but below the radio in a separate unit? Or in the rear at the monitor itself? If it's separate from the radio, it may continue to operate without being tied into the new audio system (headphones only).
In regards to the presets, I don't mind that it's LEFT ORIENTED but the SCROLLING aspect is not great. I like that it's left oriented so you're not over reaching for the other presets. BUT then should do like two columns of 4 buttons, then.
Yes! I am not a fan of scrolling presets. At all. I like your column idea.
Whats the bsst HDMI mhl cable for the Alpine F507,509,511 hdmi inputs?
Hmm. I actually have not tried mirroring with anything other than an iPhone which uses their own Apple Lightning to Digital A/V adapter or a newer Samsung phone using USB C and in that case I used an Anker USB C to HDMI. I think if it's for a Samsung phone, you may want to get the Samsung adapter. I think for the earlier phones, it may be proprietary kind of like Apple's where if you use a generic version, it may not work properly. It may depend on the exact phone model.
Curious did updating the firmware fix the UI lag you were pointing out? I too noticed this when I went to my local shop and tried the unit out in person. I was like huh? What in the world is going on? This thing being in 2023 shouldn't be behaving like this? So with that...what would you recommend? The Alpine ILX-507 or the Kenwood DMX958? Pretty hefty $200 price difference between the 2. I am torn. So far for my comparison: Alpine has no pesky "warning" startup screen each time it boots up. But it seems to lag more vs the Kenwood. The Alpine has a better more robust EQ but the Kenwood has a lot of extra add-on features to enhance the sound. I watched all your videos and don't see anywhere you compared the 2 units in regards to sound quality. Being both have HD LDAC, I am guessing sound quality would be similar but then again, your reviews showed the Alpine not to be making 4volts pre-out and the Kenwood was close to 5volts pre-out? so hmm. Thoughts to help me make my decision, please! My main decision factors: Sound Quality, UI non-laggy, EQ tuneability, and head unit features. Thank you!
No, the update did not have any affect on that EQ screen that drives me bonkers. We did cover the sound quality on the 507 in one video (I think the pre-amp voltage one) and we show the EQ curve John does to sort of fatten up the Alpine. They are very close, both excellent sound quality, but with everything flat, the Alpine can sound a bit thin. However that is easily corrected with the EQ.
The other thing to keep in mind with LDAC - if you're using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto, you're not using LDAC. Apparently both are being done over WiFi which is topping out at 16 bit / 48 kHz. Unless you're using the built in Tidal app on Alpine or a stand alone audio device streaming over Bluetooth that is LDAC compatible.
Hai am confused between alpine 509 or 507 which one is better.Do i get any additional if i take 509.
@carstereochick
Thank you for the review and live demo. It's really beneficial to see how it operates in your live demo as opposed to just talking about its features & specs, etc. 👍
Before doing your review, did you check to see that it had the latest firmware and software update? For future reference, which version is currently installed?
I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed overall. Even the Boot Up time is not great. As a comparison, my 2018 Kenwood eXcelon Reference DDX9905S boots up in about 8.5 seconds, and 12 seconds with a full 2TB USB HDD attached. It does take about 20 seconds to connect my Android smartphone via Android Auto, though.
The Screen LAG is NOT a good thing. Even the plain Jane basic OEM touchscreen head units have no issues with this! IMO, if you will be continuously distracted from the road and driving by having to keep pressing/touching the screen to get it to switch functions, it is a serious SAFETY HAZARD, the same as Texting while driving!
And even though the 2018 DDX9905S did Not come with WIRELESS Android Auto, only wired AA via USB, it now works perfectly WIRELESSLY with Android Auto and it connects perfectly every time, whereas the Wired USB AA was extremely finicky. :)
IMO, the only real differentiating feature that the new Alpine Halo head units have is the Independent Left & Right PEQ for Every Channel, which is a big deal IMO, but I'm sure that the next versions of the other major brands will have this as well.
But you are still limited to 6 output channels, so to do a full active Front/Rear/Subwoofer setup with active 2- or 3-way components in front, rear coaxials, and a subwoofer, you're going to need a "real" DSP with more output channels.
Oh, and I do love the RUX-H02 wireless Remote Knob. I'd like to see this become a universal option and feature with every brand and head unit.
Thanks again for your review. It was a real eye opener. Now I can understand why the newer Chinese Android-based head units such as "Joying" are becoming more & more popular. The major car audio manufacturers really need to step up their game sooner rather than later if they want to stay relevant in this category!
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Agree with your peeve about Alpine's usual lack of camera inputs as well. And the quality is MUCH better on the Kenwood HD camera. Even the color and contrast of the Rydeen camera blows away the Alpine's HD camera. Thanks for showing that!
Maybe there are some screen adjustments for Brightness, Color, and Contrast in the iLX-507 Display Settings that would help in this regard? But out-of-the-box, it really doesn't look good. :(
And IMO, at this point in time ALL camera inputs should be at least FULL HD (1080P) via a mini-HDMI connector. (Let's do away with those proprietary connections as well, please!). Composite Video via RCA is from the 1980's when we were using 4:3 aspect ratio CRT tube TVs! Yes, that was over *40* years ago! HELLO, it's 2022 folks!
Thank you so much for taking the time watch and comment! I am totally on the same page with you with all points raised. The lack of responsiveness on the screen is super annoying and agree it can become a safety hazard if you're continually looking down trying to make a selection!!!
The DDX9905s was definitely super finicky with AA. There were many earlier AA models where the only way we could get it to work properly was to connect the client's original USB Charge/Sync cable directly to the head unit's USB input. The higher speed connection on this works great and for every one that I've sold, I've had no issue connecting AA. Usually all I have to do is connect a client's Android phone once to the USB and it does wireless right away. I think part of the reason I had difficulty in the video is I had previously connected that same phone and cleared device memory from the phone and the radio and it's almost like it didn't clear properly.
Great point about the software - we are running the latest version 2.0.000 on the one in the video and always update each one before the client picks their car up. For those having issues and reading the comments, that update can be found here:
kb.alpine-usa.com/article/ilx-f511-ilx-f509-i509-wra-jk-jl-ilx-507-firmware-update-v-2-0-000.html
I'm curious to know what you felt about the sound quality difference between the DDX9905s and the iLX-507? I do side by side comparison's on my sound board, but it's not the same as the in car experience. Do you think the Alpine is as smooth/detailed as Kenwood? Or do you think it's a bit brighter? Would you say it's more nuanced? Totally curious about your thoughts on the sound quality differences between the two models.
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Do these head units retain all of their custom DSP settings and Radio presets, etc, if the battery is disconnected?
And how fast does it scan, load, and start to play music files from a large-ish USB thumb drive (~256GB)? Is it easy and intuitive to search and scroll for particular files?
Does it have PLAYLIST support via USB file playback?
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Thanks for the reply! Hopefully Alpine will see your review and will fix at least some of the issues that you pointed out here in a future software/firmware update!
I really wish that I could help you in regards to the differences in SQ between the Kenwood eXcelon Reference head units and the new Alpine iLX-5xx series. I'm interested to know myself as well! I haven't yet purchased or installed the new Alpine iLX-507. And after seeing your review, I may not. :-P
I watched your review here because I was considering this new Alpine head unit for a relatively "simple but good" SQ install in one of my utility/work fleet vehicles due to its built-in DSP features with the independent L&R channel P-EQ, T/A, and Crossovers, etc.
I didn't want to go with a full-blown standalone DSP or DSP/Amplifier in this particular vehicle, but I still want a decent SQ system with a good soundstage and lifelike tonality, as I have several very high-end audio installs with full DSP and high-end amplifiers and components in my other vehicles. I was just planning to install a small, mid-tier 8" or 10" shallow sealed subwoofer for the low end for this install.
I am still using the older DDX9905S in one of my vehicles, but have upgraded to the newer DDX9907XR in my other cars. After living with the Kenwood eXcelon Reference head units for a few years, I've been curious how the new Alpine iLX Halo series stacks up and compares (always looking to try something new, LOL).
However, I've been extremely happy and impressed with the SQ, and the speed of the USB file playback using a 2TB SSD drive, and Android Auto functionality with all of the Kenwood DDX99xx series head units. I'm not in love with the GUI in general, but they do everything I need for the most part. As you know, the 5-volt RCA preouts are clean and don't clip, so that obviously helps.
But TBH, my main playback sources in my car audio systems now use my portable iBasso DX300 DAP, or a 12.4" Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ tablet combined with a USB "Bridge" to Toslink Optical adapter connected to my various DSPs via pure digital connections.
These do seem to provide just a bit better SQ overall compared to the Kenwood eXcelon Reference head units, but it really depends on the Quality of the Music and Files that you play. ;)
Sometimes there isn't a discernable difference at all, unless the recording itself is outstanding. ;) And when combined with road/tire/wind noise while driving at highway speeds, it gets even harder to discern the differences sometimes. But they are there.
For convenience, in one of my cars I also installed the Audsion B-Con Hi-Res Bluetooth receiver which connects via digital Toslink optical to my DSP. When combined with the LDAC Bluetooth audio codec that's available in the B-Con and my Galaxy Tablet and smartphone, it also sounds fantastic for everyday listening and keeps a solid connection.
It's probably obvious by now that I'm somewhat of a music and audio NERD, LOL, so I'm running a different DSP in each vehicle, LOL...an Audiotec-Fischer Helix DSP ULTRA, a miniDSP C-DSP 8x12 with DIRAC Live, and the Gladen/Mosconi 8TO12 Aerospace DSP.
They each have their Pros & Cons, and all of them sound fantastic when the system is tuned properly. At the moment, the DIRAC Live in the miniDSP unit has given me the best results...simply amazing SQ! I also use REW, Smaart v8, and SysTune combined with professional microphones to do acoustic measurements and adjust the DSPs, along with my ears, of course. ;)
Recently I've been trying the new JL Audio TuN 4.0 DSP software for measurements and DSP adjustments, even though I'm not using their VXi DSP/Amps. I've had fairly good and quick results with this software because it is somewhat "stripped down" but integrates the necessary standard measurement and correction tools along with the real-time Phase Analysis features of the much more complicated Smaart v8 software. Good stuff, and it's FREE, so there's that. :)
Curiously, I've never been a SQ competitor, but I know and talk to a lot of the guys and gals that do compete in SQ competitions in organizations such as IASCA, MECA, and EMMA, etc. I've always been a home and car HiFi/Stereo addict and a musician (Drums/Percussion & Saxophone), so that has been an influence in my audio journey. Anyway....
Regarding the wired USB/AA connection issues with the Kenwood DDX9905S & DNX995S, etc, 95% of the issue is due to the USB CABLE that is used. You need to choose a 3rd party USB cable that has a larger internal wire gauge, and it usually helps if the USB cable is shorter as well. I tried every OEM USB cable that was supplied with the Android device and they ALL did not connect consistently. :(
So when I first had this wired USB/AA connection issue, I purchased about 6 different "heavy duty" USB cables on Amazon and tested the connection to my DDX9905S. Out of the 6 cables, only 2 of them would consistently connect and stay connected to Android Auto in the DDX9905S! I posted Links to the cables that worked consistently in a DNX995/DDX9905S Review Thread on the DIY Mobile Audio Forums. (My user name is "bbfoto" there as well).
One of the USB cables that worked perfectly was a short, thick 12" cable, and one was a red 1m USB cable with white connectors at each end (both USB-A to USB-C). I used the shorter one as my primary cable as it was the perfect length to reach my smartphone cradle/mount on the dash.
These new 3rd party USB cables were used in combination with the OEM Kenwood 1m USB Extension Cables that are included with the DDX9905S. But even without the Kenwood USB Extension Cables, my smartphone would not consistently connect to AA in the head unit even with the Samsung OEM USB cables.
But once I started using these new 3rd Party USB cables, my Samsung Galaxy Note smartphone would connect perfectly to AA in the DDX9905S every time with no issues at all...though it was still a bit slow. :)
Unfortunately, the Galaxy Note smartphone that I was using at the time was several generations old, and the latest Android OS updates were no longer supported. :(
Then, just by chance, my nephew was riding shotgun with me on a road trip and wanted to connect his Android smartphone to my DDX9905S head unit via AA. The Bluetooth and WiFi in his entry level 2022 Samsung Galaxy A13 5G smartphone were already switched ON.
He was just about to connect the USB-C cable to his phone, but before he could, to my shock, his smartphone Automatically appeared in a pop-up on the head unit asking to pair & connect to the head unit. After touching "OK" on the DDX9905S head unit's pop up, his phone Connected WIRELESSLY to Android Auto WITHOUT using the USB Cable! :)
This head unit obviously did NOT come with WIRELESS AA capability, so I was perplexed. It turns out that the newer version of AA (that I was not able to download on my older smartphone) made this possible. Shortly after, I updated to a new Galaxy smartphone, and it connects to AA in the DDX9905S WIRELESSLY Every Time, with no issues. :) So I'm still very pleased with this head unit.
I apologize for going so far Off Topic, but perhaps this information might be useful to someone else who reads these comments.
Thanks again for the review! And please let us know if you get a chance to compare the SQ of one of the Kenwood eXcelon Reference head units that you have to these new Alpine iLX 5-series models with a good set of component speakers (preferably with a good amplifier as well)!
Cheers!
- B.B.
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Oh, and it's great to hear that you don't have any AA or CarPlay connection issues with this head unit now, as seemed to be the case in your video.
Alpine doesn't have dynamic backup lines like Kentwood does. The stock system did too. I tried to request it through Alpine's tech support, but they didn't seem interested in doing an update. They tried to blame it on the Maestro RR2 and claimed that their head unit basically becomes just a monitor for the Maestro. I'd also like to see a speed controled auto volume feature.
2015 Colorado ILX-F509.
I hear your frustration, but what Alpine is telling you isn't exactly wrong. I've seen Kenwood models like the DMX709s in a 2019 VW Jetta we just did where Dynamic Park Guidance lines are listed as a supported Maestro feature, but after we installed it, they weren't supported. I find that particular Maestro feature is often hit or miss. It varies depending on the car and head unit. Have you tried emailed iDatalink tech support for clarification?
Really love your reviews. However, after watching them I'm torn between the Alpine iLX-507 and Kenwood DMX 8709S, and if it's really worth going up to the Kenwood DMX 958xr I'd consider it. I use an Apple phone, and need the upgrade in order to use Carplay, install one rear camera, have access to Sirius, HD radio, Navigation, and possibly play UA-cam music videos once in awhile. I'd appreciate it if you would tell me what you would do considering these choices, or if you think there is something better that I haven't considered. The car is a 2011 Mercedes SLK 300 and the budget just for the stereo is between $500 to $850, thank you for your help.
Hi, I'm so glad you enjoy the content! Being that it is a convertible, I do think the more vibrant screen on the DMX958XR is worth considering. The 507 is also pretty vibrant, but I don't think it's as responsive to touch as either Kenwood. The DMX8709s is definitely a good compromise/value worth considering.
So I just ordered mine and upgrading from ilx 650 which to me is a major upgrade. I’m also going to be doing a video as well. But the problem I’m having is finding the maestro module compatible with my 2004 dodge ram infinity without unconnect? Can you help me out with that.
Hey Derek, that's definitely a nice upgrade over the iLX-W650 which is still one of my favorite decks, but this one has a lot more audio control and the wireless connectivity. However, the Maestro RR is not compatible with your 2004 Ram unfortunately. A bit too early to support those kind of CAN Bus related features. Coverage for the Ram with the Maestro doesn't start until 2006. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!
@@carstereochick I know they have it for Durango wouldn’t that be the same plug-in?
@@derekmoore6467 it’s not about the plug, it’s about CAN Bus communication. If that data isn’t there in the car to connect to, or if they haven’t written software for it, it won’t work. You can email them to confirm, but in this vehicle you’re probably just going to reuse whatever wire harness/SWC module you had with your iLX-W650.
Excellent Videos. I need your help on selecting an aftermarket radio for my 2004 GMC Yukon XL Denali. An installer suggested the Alipine iLX-507 but, I'm not sold on this. Please help.
Thank you. It really depends on what features are most important to you. I think the best thing to do is focus on your top features/concerns. Is it to have the best screen quality and responsiveness? The most intuitive and simplest user interface? The fastest boot up time? The most long term reliability? Do you need something with a DVD or CD player? Do you care about scrolling presets or fixed presets or do you plan to use the steering wheel controls? Do you want a radio with hard buttons so you can reach over and feel the controls without looking down? Or do you prefer the sleek look of a screen with no physical buttons? These are all questions I ask to try and help people focus on what's most important so they can make their decision wisely. I hope that helps!
@@carstereochick Thank you for the quick reply. I have ruled out the Alpine iLX-507. I'm trying to make a decision between the Kenwood DMX985XR / DNS697S / DNX997XR. I originally wanted a cd player but, it seems flac audio files are the way to go. I wanted a navigation system just in case I lose cell coverage but, is it really worth the extra cost?
Excellent Review! I was interested in this unit on Crutchfield. With the amount of bugs with this unit, what other unit would you recommend that is comparable to this one?
I'm so glad you found it helpful! I am very honest with these reviews, but if you get to know me and watch a few, you will find pretty much every head unit has it's pro's and con's and I will always do my best to point out any/and all flaws. It's a matter of figuring out which features are most important to you. We have sold many of these and have had very few if any complaints from clients, more just quirks that we deal with. The other models to consider would be the Sony XAV-AX6000 (but that has its drawbacks when you look at the pre-amp voltage test video and how you have to set up the EQ to actually get 5 volts). I will be reviewing the Kenwood DMX958XR shortly. I am a bit of out the game with Pioneer. They were hit really hard with the chip shortage so I really haven't carried/sold their product in the past 2 years, but they were always known for having a really nice user interface/attractive appearance. I am a huge fan of Kenwood as they tend to be very reliable, sound fantastic and have some great audio control features. Yet they are known for having a bit dated look/user interface. For me - sound quality is most important. I don't care about my dated Kenwood menu appearance because it's been super reliable and consistent. I'm always on the Apple CarPlay source anyways so I don't care what the other screens look like. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto looks the same on all of them. My bluetooth call quality isn't as good as Sony or Alpine (to be fair, I do have an older model, call quality has improved in newer models), but my Jeep stereo sounds flipping amazing. So figure out what features are most important to you and make your decision based on the brand/model that aligns closest to your important feature list.
@@carstereochick Sound quality, audio customization and Android Auto are my needs. I have a 2011 Chevy Avalanche with the Premium Bose system with factory nav and center channel speaker in the dash.
Do you have a preference on wireless or wired Android Auto? Resistive or capacitive screen? Are you planning on using the iDatalink Maestro for retaining SWC, Bose, Reverse Camera, etc?
@@carstereochick wireless Android Auto, high quality screen and Idatalink Maestro.
We just powered up a DMX958XR on display. Beautiful screen, wireless Android Auto and full iDatalink Maesto support. Are you subscribed? Video coming soon.
I recently purchased the ilx507 and during installation discovered that the sirius xm tuner that I had connected to my previous ine967 (the SXV300) is not recognized and does not work with this unit. What sirius tuner does work? thanks
Unfortunately it sounds like you have an older version of the tuner. It needs an SXV300v1 marked G2.
Hi i have a ine-w611d fitted to my VWT5, but when connect my ipod it will not load my albums/ playlist etc ,i can only sroll songs one by one ,not had any joy with my installer or Alpine technical, is this a fauly unit do you think ?
I'm not sure what the US equivalent would be, that kind of looks like our INE-W970HD. Honestly I tell most clients all of these newer heads unit are not iPod compatible. If they really want to use one, I have them bring in the device and we test it with the radio.
I'm assuming the iPod you have is at least something newer like an iTouch with a lightning connection on it. If you're talking about anything earlier generation or just a straight up iPod with lightning connection, I don't believe it's compatible.
The manual does state if you're using an iPhones and trying to use an iPod at the same time there may be streaming or iPod control conflict and if the problems persists, they say to remove the iPhone and reconnect. I think it basically sees both the iPhone and iPod as the same type of device and it can only read from one or be connected to one at a time (including Bluetooth connection on the iPhone).
Awesome and detailed review. Thanks One question i often don't see is how do you like the audio? Is yhere much improvement over OEM HU? I'm an old guy who cares more about the sound than all the features. The 13 band EQ seems great though. Any suggestions? Again Thanks!!!!
Thank you and yes, this is a great sounding stereo. There are a ton of audio control features to really dial it in. If you leave everything flat, it can sound a bit thin. We have another video where John and I discuss it and we show the audio settings he likes to use to fill it out a bit: ua-cam.com/video/TSdQj1DbaZ8/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=537
I hope that helps!
So I am guessing no need for a DSP on this unit?
Hi, you are a pro, I liked how you made your workshop, you know what you say.
I watched another popular review of this unit on UA-cam. Their boot up test clocked in at just barely 8 seconds. Do you know why there would be such a large variance?
I have actually seen them boot up even faster than that in cars and I don't know why. What I did in the video is what I would call a cold start up, ignition power totally killed, I let the unit totally turn off and switched power back on. When I'm in a client's car and we're testing something and have to cycle the ignition, sometimes this model boots up so fast I'm thinking it never really shut down. I see this more in vehicles with a Maestro in use or some other retained accessory power circuit. Was the review you're mentioning done in a car or on a test bench or display?
@@carstereochick it was not installed in the car.
ua-cam.com/video/-yYiJS4H7Is/v-deo.html
Wonder if you've tried android auto wireless. I've recently purchased the ILX-507e and android auto usb works perfectly but can't get android auto wireless to work. A notification would pop up my s22ultra "looking for Android auto" but never finds it. Pressing the android auto icon on the head unit goes to the device list and shows it's already connected to the phone . Even tried updating the firmware and still no go.
I actually did test my co-worker's Android in this video and it was very stubborn to switch between devices once I had 2 different phones and the knob paired up. You can see that at 11:42. And then the radio seemingly lost memory of the S21, but then it came back. It was really quirky. I honestly don't normally see issues with Android Auto and this radio (wired or wireless). If ever do, this is the recommendation.
You'll need to go into settings on the radio, about and select "Reset" which will restore all settings to default. This is like a hard reset SO prior to doing that, take note of any and all audio settings. Then cycle the ignition. After that clear the memory in your phone and try re-pairing. Kind of sounds like you've possibly already tried that with the firmware update, but not sure if you cleared the memory from the phone when you did the firmware update.
I don't know if Android has this, but in Apple, there is a separate "CarPlay" settings menu and with Apple, you need to go in there and forget the device as well (sometimes, honestly depends on the radio). If Android has something like that, you'll want to do that too in addition to unpair/forget the device under Bluetooth.
For added measure, the other thing you can try doing is go into the app manager for Android Auto and I know you can't uninstall the app, but I believe by selecting that, it reverts to the previous version of Android Auto. Then you can re-install the latest and I've had to do that for just a few clients who's phones were being really stubborn. I don't know why, but that seems to work better than simply clearing the cache in the app. It's also possible you missed a permission setting in the phone on that 1st initial connection? After restoring the app and making that initial connection, if Android asks for any permissions to operate Android Auto, agree to all permissions. If you miss one, it can easily throw off seamless connection. I hope that helps!
What is the use of the HDMI out? we are trying to hook an external tv and the HDMI out doesn't work or recognise. Whats going wrong?
That's the idea. Alpine has their own DVD player that works thru the HDMI input and the idea is you can pipe that into the unit and then out to an external display like a rear seat monitor. Could be a cabling issue or setting. Does the input work and you have audio and video on the 507 screen, but just no to the secondary monitor?
@@carstereochick precisely. its a bit of a mystery as to why it wont work. We tried using another source unit and that works fine. I will go through the settings to see if its an issue.
That's exactly what I was thinking, but I just looked it up and the manual specifically says it is automatically on, there is no setting for it and it is pass thru video only. Are you trying to use it with the Alpine DVE-5300 HDMI DVD player? Or are you using like an Apple lighting digital A/V adapter and streaming content from an iPhone? Maybe a copyright issue with the device you're using that doesn't allow pass thru streaming for certain apps? Weird. Let me know if you get it figured out. I'm curious to know in case I run into this myself!
Green was the only display color option back in the days..Alpine green.
Yup. Back when most vehicle dashes illuminated green. I remember being so excited to get my CDA-9833 in my 2003 VW Jetta GLI because the blue buttons sort of matched my VW dash lighting.
I'm very interested in this head unit for my Jeep. Thank you for showing the quirks. I expect better from Alpine. Curious of they've addressed any of this in recent updates to the software.
That's a great question. They did just release a pretty big update. I haven't done the update on the display model yet so I couldn't tell you if it has any effect on responsiveness or anything like that.
Great video. Can you please help me? Im looking for a double din receiver that has treble, bass and mid if possible on one screen, kind of similar to the Alpine Halo iLX-507. Physical knobs would be my favorite but that seems impossible these days cause pretty much all these units have only an equalizer and it makes it a pain to adjust it every song. I dont want to spend $650 on the alpine for these settings alone cause I dont need a backup camera or any of the 100's other settings. If you could recommend something I'd appreciate it.
Thanks Jason - what's the year, make and model vehicle? Do you need something iDatalink Maestro compatible for your vehicle? Does it have to have wireless CarPlay/Android Auto? If you don't need full Maestro compatibility for your vehicle and are okay with wired connection, the iLX-W650 has a similar EQ set up where there is an advanced 9-band parametric, but also an easy option with bass, mid and treble. No knobs though. It's going to be tough to find something like that with knobs in a 7-inch model because of the aspect ratio Android Auto is designed to work in, unless you go with something with a larger floating screen. Even then, I can't think of any with knobs with an easy EQ feature like that.
If you're utilizing an aftermarket amp and can go without fader control, one option is to integrate a universal bass knob like an SSLC from PAC Audio. It's just RCA in, RCA out. I've done that before for clients that had to have a volume knob. You could do the KTA-450 4-channel which mounts right to the back of the iLX-W650 chassis and wire in the universal RCA style knob for a volume control. Just keep in mind you'd lose fader function in that example because we'd only be using one set of RCA's for the amp since that knob only accepts one RCA input/output. I hope that's helpful!
@@carstereochick 2004 VW Passat. I already have a Sony XAV-AX210 and I had a usb connection installed in the center console so I dont need wireless carplay. I dont even know what Maestro is to be honest. Is that the ability to control the receiver through the steering wheel? If so I definitely do need that. So the ILX-W650 doesnt have that ability for the steering wheel controls? Thanks alot for the recommendation on the ILX-W650, im curious, if I switched from my Sony to the ILX-W650, would my sound quality go down do you know?
So in the 2004 Passat you won't need the advanced iDatalink Maestro RR. That's for cars where things like climate controls and vehicle settings actually go through the factory radio. In your case you can use a more basic steering wheel control adapter like a Metra AXSWC (which you may already have?) and the iLX-W650 will work with that. The XAV-AX210 was a pretty nice unit, but I do think you will find the Alpine a bit smoother on the top end and a slightly more responsive screen. What's going on to make you want to replace the Sony?
@@carstereochick I just dont like the fact theres no overall treble and mid settings theres only base. When certain songs come on that sound horrible Id have to change the custom equalizer which would take a long time to do and then it would be all out of whack for other songs. These companies just make this stuff too complicated. I already spent a lot of money for that Sony unit so im leaning towards just keeping it and dealing with it. If I decide on another unit I'll keep that Alpine in mind. I really appreciate all the help.
Glad I could help!
After seeing numerous vid's on Alpine touch screen head units, I'll be sticking with my late 80's chiclet models. This new technology is to complicated and cumbersome. I'll stick with a volume knob, separate bass/treble controls sliders and a separate eq like my 3331 and EG-180
Oh man, you are missing out! I totally get what you're saying though. I do wish these manufacturers made these units easier to use with a more simple layout. But from a sound quality perspective, using apps like Tidal, Apple Music with Lossless, Amazon HD on your smartphone, you can get better than CD quality. Did you ever dabble with DVD audio discs? They didn't really take off, but they were higher quality than CD. We used to do a side by side comparison demo in our shop years ago when we used to sell the DVI-9990 Alpine F#1 Status system. If you remember the quality of those DVD audio discs, with these apps on our phones, you can have quality like that, but in the palm of your hand which is really convenient. So they got that part down right, but it would be great if they could do that and still make the overall function easier/more intuitive for end use consumers. Thanks for watching!
@@carstereochick I still listen to and burn my own cd's :)
I'm still running the Alpine 7915/EQ-180 that I bought new back in the early 90's when they came out. I love that older /////ALPINE stuff!!!
For me, the 'newer' stuff just has so many frivolous screens, options, settings, etc and lack the stuff that's important to me...In reality, I'm totally happy with the oem Bose am/fm/6 cd changer in my '04 Suburban :)
I see Kenwood's DDX9707S and DNX577S both have a cd player. (JVC, Pioneer, and Sony aren't on the consideration list). I haven't had a Kenwood (Other than ham radio and my home stereo) since my KRC-8001 back in '87/88. I wonder if Kenwood would be a happier idea than the Alpine?
I'll check the iLX-507 out here in town (if they have one) and see what its like.
Any spectrum analyser on this I'm old school love that kind of thing
Nah, but I’m pretty sure Kenwood still offers that on the their display options though. I know my old DMX7704s does.
@@carstereochick will look into kenwood then thx
are you at Best Buy; I don't see those items
Ha! Hell no. I have my own shop :) details in the description.
What did you mean by "if you want to connect your apple phone wirelessly, you have to have the GPS connected"?
Great question! Most wireless CarPlay stereos include a GPS antenna. Wireless CarPlay will not launch if that GPS antenna is not connected to the stereo.
@@carstereochick ahh. The antenna. Just needs to be plugged in even if not used. Thank you!
I have the 509 and love everything except the camera image quality. I have the hi res Alpine cameras, front an rear. I actually returned them as defective but the replacements were the same poor quality. I expected much better from $300+ cameras.
Oh man, I was hoping they would look better on the 509 which has a nicer screen than the 507. Good to know, thanks for the comment!
How is the sound quality of this unit. Thats what im wanting if for.
It's great! We do discuss it in another video, I'm not sure if you saw it? Overall personally I (and other clients) have found it to be a bit thin when the EQ is flat, but we have a curve we recommend to fatten it up a bit. It's quite smooth and detailed overall -> ua-cam.com/video/TSdQj1DbaZ8/v-deo.html
@@carstereochick thank you I'll check it out
Have you or anyone else been able to set the x-overs in a bandpass configuration?
I have not tried this. Every iLX-507, iLX-F509, 511 or i509-WRA-JL/JK we've sold and installed has either been simply a head unit upgrade only or if we did a full audio system, it was a traditional Front, Rear & Sub set up.
@@carstereochick I figured it out, you just can't set a Low-pass on the front or rear if the High-pass cutoff rate is too steep.
It will be nice if you can add USB and AUX functionality reviews because the iLX-507 does not have CD. After finding a needle in the sand, the iLX-507 did play WAV files. My flash drive is formatted to exFAT. My WAV files are set to 1411 Kbps (16 Bits), I think it can go up to editor grade 2116 Kbps (24 Bits).
I just had one of these put in my car and I am very unhappy with it so far - There is a ~2 second delay on all audio over CarPlay which makes videos unwatchable and skipping/rewinding multiple songs in a row an absolute chore.
The EQ settings are garbage, the PEQ lowest band can go down to 25hz but the second lowest band can only go down to ~65hz, so they don't overlap at all, leaving some frequencies untouched.
After reversing (e.g. out of my driveway every morning) it shows nothing but a black screen with an image of a car on it, and none of the buttons get it back to the regular menus, unless I have music playing from my phone, then one of the buttons successfully switches to CarPlay. So I need use my phone to start spotify, THEN I can exit back to CarPlay and control it from my phone...
The boot process is also slow.
This was supposed to be an upgrade from a stock 2015 Ranger headunit, and so far it's been hot garbage.
can i do the same thing on my ILX F511 i need that to connect my phone to HDMI
Yes, the connection for HDMI will be the same on the iLX-F509, iLX-F511 and i509-WRA-JL/JK. Great question! Thanks.
@@carstereochick i saw on Amazon that it works on Iphone 11 pro and earlier I have an iphone 14 pro. im going to make sure
I have a client with a 14 and the i509-WRA-JL, it does work, but you have to disconnect from CarPlay. It's annoying, but it's an Apple thing and something you have to do with all wireless CarPlay models if you want to use HDMI. I will say in her particular case, her wireless connection is very quirky. Not sure it's an iPhone 14 issue or a particular app on her phone that throws everything off. But when she disconnects her phone from CarPlay to use the HDMI, she does have a hard time getting it to reconnect. I'm doing the latest update (just came out last month) for her on Monday and we'll see if that resolves some her connectivity issues.
@@carstereochick ill probably do it tomorrow and Ill let you know and ill make sure that camera setting is noted too
Omg the update is a game changer for me it was fast and I connect to TIDAL high fi fast thx for your video thinking about the 507 as soon as its in my budget Bday coming up!
Can you do a review on the new alpine i905
Hi Quang, I'm not familiar with that model since it's not sold in the US. However, it appears to have the same style operating system/features as the iLX-507, but with the larger screen like we see on the i509-WRA-JL/JK series. I did do a review on the i509-WRA-JL which is for the 2018-up Jeep Wrangler.
ua-cam.com/video/k3zrtSOmI6g/v-deo.html
Perhaps that review may be helpful? Full disclosure, I have no idea if they're using the same style/quality screen on the i509-WRA-JL as they are using on the i905. Sorry, I can't do a review on that one. It looks like a cool model, just not sold here.
Where to insert CD and SD card
Not equipped.
Think you talked me out of this unit to many glitches for me
They have had quite a few software updates since this video was posted and I think they've ironed out a lot of quirks, but the only thing not resolved for me is lack of responsiveness to touch, but seems like only when on the EQ screen.
The software updates have REALLY helped the unit. I have one and its been very stable since the last update.
Just a pity the Blue illuminated Buttons cannot be changed to Red etc 😢
So I just got this head unit and I have what might be a strange question. I have a Jeep with very limited space behind my dash, and I have no use for Sirius or regular radio. Would it damage anything if I just cut off the wiring for both? I can fit the head unit with them on but I’d rather have less clutter back there. Yea I know it sounds stupid but…
I feel your pain, but I would not cut anything off the head unit, you can risk shorting it out. I would cut the cavity behind the dash instead. That's necessary in a lot of vehicle installations and is usually described in the dash kit guide as "Sub dash modification required". I hope that helps!
EDIT - if you're talking about a Wrangler JK you need to remove the sub radio bracket, there are two 7 mm bolts in the top corners and that will free up space for you.
@@carstereochick I have a TJ. But thanks for the heads up. I’ll leave them alone. I managed to cram a test fit in this morning without any further mods to the dash. It’s not ideal but it will do. I was able to tuck everyone down under so it doesn’t block the cooling fan. I originally planned on buying the stubbier ilx-650 which would have had a ton of room back there but I switched to the 507 when I saw the wireless car play.
On a side note, would you trust mounting the KTA-450 Amp on top of the 507 with some sort of stand off bracket? At first glance it fits perfect up there, but I’m not sure if the two of them piggybacked would generate too much heat. There would be about an inch of breathing room between them.
Thanks for the response! ✌️
Great question - we have mounted the KTA-450 in tight spaces like that using metal brackets when we install it with anything other than a iLX-W650 or iLX-407. If you can get an inch of breathing room between the two, that should be sufficient. I know sometimes we mount small amps like that in these vehicles in the driver's side upper kick/steering column area too.
@@carstereochick Great! That’s what I’ll do then. Thanks again. It’s not often you get such quick responses from the comments section. You definitely got a sub and like from me. 👍
@@carstereochick Sooooo, I'm back with one last question lol. I noticed the clock on your 507 wasn't set early in your video but at some point it was. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the clock set on mine. All it shows are those 4 dashes like yours in the beginning of the video. I tried everything in the clock settings menu. How'd you do it? I actually made a UA-cam Short about it on my channel. Here's a link ua-cam.com/users/shortsyqwokLNMYu8?feature=share
Hello :D, I have a question, do you think the alpine ilx-507 is still worth it or is it better to wait for new alpine 2023 units? I wait your answer :D!
I don't think we will see any model changes for 2023. The way supply chain issues have been the past 2 years I think manufacturers plan on keeping models current for more than one year.
@@carstereochick So do you recommend the alpine ilx-507 in 2023 or some other model? And how is the audio quality of the alpine ilx-507 via bluetooth with LDAC?
@@carstereochick I am an audiophile person and I am looking for the best audio quality and I am thinking of buying the alpine ilx-507 for its characteristics and what it offers I would like to know how good the sound quality is and if it is worth it for the price (where I am it costs $800 dollars) I want to know if I'm not going to be disappointed. I appreciate that you can solve my doubts :D ty
This is really a personal choice. I have very sensitive ears especially to top end frequencies. I find the Kenwood eXcelon models like the DMX1057XR or DMX958XR to be smoother and more pleasing to my ears with everything flat. The Alpine can sound a bit thin with everything flat. I've heard this from other clients and in the comments section. Having said that, we did spend some time listening to both and tweaked the EQ a bit to make it sound more like the Kenwood does flat. I like that there is a lot more audio control in the iLX-507 than there is in the DMX958XR (if we're comparing similar price points). The Alpine iLX-507 is a fantastic value for what it gives you. However, I am not a fan of the lack of responsiveness on the screen though, you'll want to use the up/down arrows to adjust the EQ (not sure if you saw that at 4:40). For reference, in case you haven't seen it, here is discussion on the sound quality/EQ curve with the 507 to make it sound fuller - ua-cam.com/video/TSdQj1DbaZ8/v-deo.html
I hope that helps!!
@@carstereochick Thank you very much for answering my questions. My last question and it will make me decide whether to buy it or not. In your honest opinion, do you recommend the Alpine ilx-507 or not? I will take seriously what you tell me and you will make me make a decision. I await your response and thank you very much again :D!!
Thinking of switching my sony 5500 for a wireless model. Sony, Alpine, Kenwood? It's going in a 2012 Hyundai Sonata that had Navigation.
They're all good! They all have their pro's and con's. It REALLY depends on what features are most important to you. Sound quality? Screen quality/responsiveness? Price point/value? If money is not a factor, I'm a huge fan of the Kenwood DMX958XR, it's got it all. Not sure if you saw my in depth review on that --> ua-cam.com/video/N31OX0Lh9yI/v-deo.html
@@carstereochick yea it's just tough I like my Sony 5500 thought of going too 6000...I just like the physical forward back and volume buttons...someone recommended Alpine(crutfhfield) lol Kenwood has both wired and wireless Sony has wired for Android auto...hmm..I was looking at that Kenwood too.
@@carstereochick I'ma also thinking of swapping out my five channel infinity reference amp for a 5channel audio control with dsp.
@@carstereochick oh yea one other thing I don't like about the Sony is the clock im not sure if it's gonna bug me lol but I was leaning towards that unit cuz I do like my 5500
I just got the ilx f511 I am thinking about getting the kenwood dmx1057xr because you can retrieve all your audio setting if the car battery goes dead with the alpine you have to go back to your install to set everything back again for 1400 you would think it would have that feature alpine missed that great feature
Totally agree - this is something that drives me bonkers!! Especially since you have to reset/initialize settings as part of any software update. I've been getting in the habit of letting clients know so they take pics of the audio settings and can re-enter as needed.
@@carstereochick can alpine add that feature with a software update I am probably going to sell my alpine it is still brand new in the box and go with kenwood
If you know anybody looking for brand new alpine ilxf511 I would trade for the kenwood dmx1057xr thanks
I wondered the same thing! I really don't know if that could be added through an update especially considering their update process requires basically a full reset/cache clear on the head unit.
I don't, I'm sorry - is too far outside of the exchange period with whomever you purchased it from?
22 seconds feels like forever to get to apple carplay. I’d love to hear if some models are closer to the 5s mark? If not maybe 10s?
Really? I guess I'm just slow getting settled into my car before actually taking off. I will make sure to check and test that with my upcoming Kenwood eXcelon DMX958XR vs DMX908s review. I don't think anything is going to be close to 5 seconds though (including stereo boot up time).
I am enjoying the Ilx 507! I have multiple cell phones stored (5 max is possible) and have no problems connecting to CarPlay upon entering the vehicle. Not only that, but I have had consistent the following since purchasing in February: After initial boot up of the radio, it takes 5-7 seconds to auto connect to CarPlay. This is the same when traveling to multiple destinations and starting and turning off the vehicle. The unit will automatically connect to my CarPlay the last phone it connected each time, so if a different phone was connected prior to yours, all you have to do is hit settings, device list, and connect to your phone only 1 time. If you don't switch it, I have not had to do it again ever unless a different phone was connected. I have not tried android auto yet to tell yet.
I am returning my Sony XAV AX 6000 deck I had installed 2 days ago and replacing it with this Alpine. The Sound quality of the Sony sounds flat and hollow after rigorous tuning i can't get the Sony to sound good
I bought this 4 months ago, installed it last Friday, and I don't like it, I'm switching over to kenwood dnx996xr due to CD/DVD player, only thing this has is the HDMI port me to use Samsung DEX but they make USB to HDMI. I also have no clue how to use Alpines sound system, and I have all JL Audio setup.
The Kenwood will do wireless mirroring for Android through Smart Mirror. The only thing is you can't have Android Auto and Mirroring active at the same time. Kenwood has a ton of audio control features as well, but I think they're a little easier to navigate.
I am seriously considering this alpine model because of the dash cam capability, also looking at Kenwoods too but they only have forward facing dash cam. I currently have pioneer 4660nex and it refuses to update firmware
Bummer about the Pioneer. That's a relatively newer model too. The Alpine dash camera system is a very nice add-on.
This alpine or the new jvc 875bw . I’m feeling the jvc. But always been a alpine fan.
So JVC is a sister company to Kenwood. The 875, feature wise, seems pretty similar to a Kenwood DMX958XR (LDAC, 5 volt) but with a resistive touch screen. I just tested the pre-amp on the DMX709s which is a wired CP/AA/more entry level model, different OS, but also rated at 5 volt. The results of that test were disappointing (ua-cam.com/video/z-K8XsgCc9w/v-deo.html)
Next week I have a video on the DMX958XR pre-amp test going up. Typically Kenwood/JVC share components, just different GUI. If you're using aftermarket amplifiers and pre-amp voltage is important, you'll probably want to go with Alpine. If you prefer the tonal character of JVC/Kenwood eXcelon and only care about higher voltage on the sub pre-out, go with the JVC. I'm assuming the JVC performs just like the Kenwood I just tested. In general, I find Kenwood to be less quirky than Alpine. I don't do much with JVC, but I assume they're using similar OS in the background (Linux?) and similarly reliable. That's my 2 cents. Coming from a someone who's had both Alpine and Kenwood in various vehicles over 20+ years. Currently running an older Kenwood DMX7704s in my own vehicle (back then - the ratings were accurate so I'm actually getting 4 volts). I hope that's helpful!
Thanks I’m going to order but I’m can’t decide between the excelon 908s and alpine I do run amplifiers only currently running pioneer but wanting to go excelon or alpine the highest 7” they make. I hope kenwood fixed the rca voltage problems. I’m liking the high resolution audio? I like graphics hoping for a spectrum analyzer I think they look cool.
That alpine quirky is kinda rough I hope if I go with the excelon 908s I’ll be happy hope the voltage issues are fixed can you test these newer models that just dropped.
Yeah, no voltage issues as long as you have Apple Sound Check (or Enable Audio Normalization on Spotify or Absolute Volume in Android, etc.) turned off :)
Always good to see a female reviewer as opposed to some sausage. Need to replace my Pioneer AVIC 8100 NEX that shit the bed. Too bad have to spend another 300 spankies to get GPS. I off-road and shoot long distance in areas with no cell service.
Wait on buying it if you haven't already purchased it. Working on a video. Like I've said before, there is always a catch with Alpine and there is a major catch with their KTX-NS01. I think I have an alternate solution, testing it tomorrow and hoping to get a video up by next weekend explaining it all.
@@carstereochick awesome, cannot wait to watch. Enjoy your weekend. Cheers.
this or the sony ax6000?
All depends on what features are most important to you! They both have their pro's and con's. Alpine has more sound control, more quirks, I think a more vibrant screen. They both sound great, but Sony has slightly less audio control (graphic EQ vs Alpine has parametric EQ), the Sony screen is not as vibrant, yet I do think it's more responsive to touch. I think Alpine has a more pleasing graphic user interface and robust layout. Sony is more simplistic. Alpine has a 1 year warranty, Sony has a 3 year warranty. I hope that helps!
22 seconds is not bad at all to connect to carplay!! Especially when you have a gasoline car where you need to wait a minute or two to get the oil pressure to build up before moving
How is Android Auto a selling point when it makes the volume extremely low and removes all Bass?
Quirky is a good word for this head unit. I have it and it's super quirky from the low responsive screen on EQ page to not having a clock when android auto or apple carplay is connected. There is a spot for the clock but no clock. I've also pretty much given up getting apple carplay to work properly. Half the time it works and the other half I only get bluetooth to function. I would have expected better from Alpine. My generic android head unit in my rock crawler works better than this thing.
I'm sorry for the quirks. I will say when it 1st came out and when I made this video it was very quirky, but Alpine has released many updates since it came out that has resolved pretty much all the wireless connectivity issues we saw. Have you installed the latest firmware update? If you do, be sure to do the full reset at the end of the update. Just keep in mind that will completely restore all settings so take note of any audio settings before doing the reset after the update.
Also - the clock is set on the radio automatically by the GPS antenna. When Apple CarPlay or Android Auto is connected, it's just piping it from your phone onto the display. If the GPS antenna is under the dash, you might have to relocate it to the top left or right corner of your dash or just make sure it's not getting blocked by any metal.
I am not impressed with this and it constantly has hangups with connection with the phone, phone calls don't connect and if they do it is digitized and broken I constantly turn it off and on to get it to connect to my phone. I would not recommend this unit due to the number of issues with syncing it. When playing music it will stop and will not work, when it does come back on it is delayed, like it is trying to catch up.
Ugh! I'm sorry to hear it's been so buggy for you. Usually I can sort out any issues clients are having. What phone are you using?
@@carstereochick I am using a Samsung Note 20 Ultra and I have Xfinity mobile. I will also add that I live in Utah so the coverage is spotty at times due to the mountains
@4:18 People still listen to the radio?? O_o
My thoughts exactly, but yes they do. Just the other day John spent an hour adding an additional ground strap for a client to pull in more AM channels on a 2019 Kia Optima (which originally came in to upgrade the stereo just to add SiriusXM). Go figure 🤷♀️
Waze isn't always a panacea for commuting. Getting an actual traffic report can be really helpful.
Hi it’s not correct that you can not change start up screen , you are able to have any pic you want on start up screen if you google and read , I have done it and used a pic that I selected ,any audio shop should know how to do it , pretty simple to do , you upload a pic from a usb stick that has only the pic on it and nothing else cheers
Hello - are you referring to the splash start up screen? I was talking about the general background screen at 14:37 when you're on a source like AM/FM, SiriusXM, Bluetooth etc. They give you a few background colors to choose from, but I didn't see an option to upload your own. On my Kenwood for example I can upload my own background for the general background screen.
Was thinking about getting this but it seems to be full of bugs so I'll pass. Maybe consider Sony.
Boot up time is horrible. 😂
I know, that's why I showed it :)
The person that designed the radio controls needs to be slapped. This is the absolute worst radio functionality I've ever had the displeasure of trying to use. The auto preset is total garbage, missing radio stations all over the place. There is no ryme or reason to the order it picks and if you tune a station god knows how you add it to the list of presets. Oh and don't bump the auto preset button because god knows what you'll get on your list. A big screen with zero simple use. Just terrible!
Your comment gave me a good laugh, but honestly I am sorry to hear how frustrated you are with it. I am not a fan of scrolling presets!