The phased array technology in Starlink antennas, especially in the compact “mini” model, is designed to dynamically adjust its directional beams to align with the satellite's position, which could be almost anywhere in the sky given Starlink’s satellite coverage. So while it might look like it's facing towards the ship, the real action happens through its sophisticated signal discrimination, focusing its reception towards the satellite it’s connected to-likely from the open sky area around the balcony. I'm a multi-service licensed radio user if that means anything. :)
Richard I’m 100% sure the signal is being bounced off the ship onto your receiver. The signals cannot penetrate metal decks as they are very high frequency and will get blocked. I’m a radio ham with a physics degree, thanks for the video
It's blown up shoreside, nobody on the boat cared. I bought the ship WiFi too, so this did not hurt their bottom line, case in point, I'm not the bad guy here but have a microphone to show who is and I'm using that microphone! Very soon ANY cell phone will do this, and their monopoly will have competition!
Thanks for the post and falling on your sword for the benefit of others. I’ve been looking for first hand experience on cruise ships. Btw, I have a Starlink Gen3 on my sailboat in the BVI. I mount it flat and don’t bother with orientation. Still works like a champ.
Thanks for seeing that I was just trying to answer the question of WILL it work! Can't really be flat mounted anywhere, but their 12 marine dishes are flat mounted on poles near the top of the ship right above the pool deck!
@@NoPantsProfits I think you could’ve laid it flat on the side table on your balcony or when you were by the pool. Would not have bothered with the kickstand
They do let you bring a bottle per person..... lol! But yeah... I get your point! I think they will become like drones.... can use in port but not onboard and they will hold them at security.
And what happens next year when you can use your phone to connect to Starlink? Will they check your phone and confiscate it if its capable of getting its own internet?
The lines. Don't make profit with starlink.. They have significantly farther connections than the chap in this video, but that has to be shared up between all the people on the ship. They don't make much money, unfortunately. It's very expensive to provide internet to people on this scan in the middle of nowhere.. I very much doubt, they care.
Richard, starlink terminals use beam steering to point the signal. Orientation of the dish is basically irrelevant as long as the dish has a known point of reference.
I think I would have tried pointing the antenna off the balcony. Starlink is a constellation with satellites all over the sky. It may say "hey, I said north", but still work. Be interesting to see if it works. There should be satellites that direction. Even if you have to point it north so it can figure our where it is, once it has a lock, it would be interesting to turn it out to see if it gets better signal strength, and therefore speed.
Travel routers are insanely helpful on cruise ships, and it sounds like you're daisy chaining several of them together for better coverage? Seems like a lot of work, but if you get lucky and have a balcony on the 15th floor you can pick up your travel router from the lido, usually.
That’s a really interesting episode. Tickles the techie in me. I’m guessing there must be a free usage component of onboard Wi-Fi needed to get ship wide connectivity . Thinking forward of your port call to the bridge, via a tunnel
Technically using this method, you really don’t need the Starlink at all. You could have a tunnel back to your home. It would be a bit kludge, but with a little bit of magic, doable.
@@RatticusDaddy but you will still be going through the ship starlink which is slow. It’s a good solution for free internet assuming they don’t block off free internet going off the ship but not for faster internet
You don't need to point it north, there are satellites everywhere in the sky. Point it towards clear sky if northern sky has metal obstruction (glass, wood does not seem to be a problem). In the video it works because it has roughly 100 degree of view so it had some view out to the southern sky where there are satellites.
I have thought about doing this. I am afraid it is only a matter of time before the cruise lines ban you from bringing the Starlink receiver. They will come up with some BS excuse like it interfering with their navigation or something.
From Carnival’s ban list “Satellite disk, routers and other internet related equipment” (whatever is a satellite disk). I understand that they already have the same equipment onboard and that it isn’t using any technology that doesn’t already exist in a phone, but the cruise line wants the money and control that comes from monopolizing access to the internet. I think there is an implication that if you are trying to find a way around their control, it is because you want to do something nefarious, not just save money. Plus, if you want to build your bridge, you are going to need some “other internet related equipment.”
I get you.... the "equipment" needed is a laptop and an Ethernet cable, nothing more, nothing less.... well possibly a masters degree in some IT field, but yeah.... I get your point.
@@NoPantsProfits Fantastic! If I understood you, it sounded like you could turn the subscription off and on when needed. i. e. Not daily but the length of the cruise, then when your next cruise comes up, turn the service back on?
Cruise internet package days are numbered. Amazon will be launching its satellite internet in 2025 (Project Kuiper). The dish will be the size of an iPhone pro max. Phone manufacturers are already working on integrating the satellite dish into the phone.
great video. firstly, youre probably the first one to try this. Just wait a couple of months; the cruise lines will ban these as they ban drones now. They will tell us some BS that it has to do with safety blah blah blah. Second, Starlink may not allow this if cruise ships dont ban their use. If i recall correctly, you can use the mini if you have the roam plan up to 12 miles into the ocean. After 12 miles you need to have a much MUCH more expensive plan that they have for people with Yachts. Its a few hundred a month and not for unlimited data. So there you have it. again, awesome video- thank you for making it; but enjoy while you can because as sure as i am writing this, im that sure it will be banned by the cruise lines in the near future as more and more people buy the mini. Subbed
The thing with the monthly payments for starlink is that you can cancel and change at any time. So you can upgrade to the more expensive plan for just the month your going away and still tends to be cheaper then the onboard WiFi and you can change back once you return
what plan are you on? The 50 gig roam or the roam unlimited which you can use inmotion and other feature or does the 50 gig roam also include inmotion?
@@NoPantsProfits so while you were making this video you were on the 50 gg roam and not roam unlimited. I heard that the 50 gig roam includes inmotion but havent heard that from Starlink.
So that maritime plan is limited to 50gb a month while at sea and once inport with the same plan left over 50gb gonna be safe and unlimited data will be activated am I right
Just thinking out loud here, but is it possible your antenna is connecting to the next closest satellite, South bound? I would think it is impossible the signal can penetrate through the ship. The app tells you to point North because that's where the closest satellite is, but after a certain amount of time when it doesn't connect, maybe it connects to the next closest available, which in your room would be South. I would be curious if the speeds would be better if you ignored the app and pointed the antenna South, that may confirm it if speeds improve.
Can be used worldwide! Has one Ethernet built in.... you could connect to a switch or router for technically unlimited ports. The bigger dish is no cheaper and self aiming but this can be run on DC power (battery packs and cigarette lighters) so it's smaller and more power efficient. Hope that answers your questions.
I was wondering if I could use the mini package as a Marie Time plan(MOBILE PRIORITY PLAN,boats), but I found out after watching this video 50GB/mon,1TB/mon right?
Im surprised you could get the do not share network to work as my experience is network isolation dies not share it as expected. Would be nice for those ships that don't have a way to communicate with other guests. (I don't care too much about the internet but having to pay for internet to just contact other people on board is a rip off)
My father is traveling on the Costa Pacifica at the moment and when he boarded he told me that they have already banned the use of Starlink Mini. The internet on the cruise is still crap. Even radio listening devices (they don't transmit anything) are prohibited.
@@NoPantsProfits I have a lot booked, maybe we will be on at the same time soon. I cancelled the Hawaii because after getting back from Alaska with two sea days, 4 more would have been bad. I would have to have a liver transplant or mortgage my house LOL. I did give you credit for putting the glacier ice in my drink when we got back on the ship. That will be in my Tracy Arm Fyord video in a few days. Have fun and don't drink all 15 in an hour.
Thank you.i am an officer onboard cargo ship and we get 500mb per month that too so slow that even whatsapp message get delayed to deliver.This will be a life changer I just want to know if airlines will allow these as i have to join from different countries most of the time
@@NoPantsProfits Thank you and did you select maritime plan on this star link as i have heard after 15 nautical mile from coastal waters you wont get connection for normal plans.If you didnt took a maritime plan will this support maritime plans?
They also took away our Bluetooth speakers even if we use them responsibly in our own State Room. I will still be using my Bluetooth speaker, my sleep sound machine, and my small portable radio... just not on Carnival Cruise Lines.😅
Hi there, I'm planning to go on a cruise, this is my first time going and I found that using the ship internet service cost a bomb. So I thought of using Starlink and I saw your youtube, this is amazing ! But so sad you also got it confiscated. As I am thinking which cruises disallow to bring Starlink aborad ? And how do you make it work thoughout the entire ship to use your own Starlink ? Thank you for your help.
I’ve brought it on board for 3 cruises already….no issues by staff what so ever. They won’t be able to defeat the ever evolving technology….especially when cell phones will be able to connect to starlink in the very near future.
Also, one of the differences between Carnival via Starlink and your Starlink Mini tests is that you are right next to your wireless router and likely using 5GHz. Perhaps if you found a wireless access point on the cruise ship and then tested you'd get better results via Carnival. You're likely on 2.4GHz on carnival in that pool location. Regardless, good video!
Legally they cannot.... they can't specifically ban that unit due to the contract they have with Starlink.... they can't specifically ban say they ban satellite dishes but this is not a satellite dish.
That is very cool although I must say that on my last Norwegian cruise they took away my power strip. They said I was not allowed to bring a power strip. I was devastated.
Any cruisier companys inform that is clear passengers walkie talkies on bord, until 5 W. How you said, the smartphones will comunicate by satellite. Which company will no prrmit smartphones ?
The cruise ship could get a commercial package for the ship from starlink and then everyone would have decent internet out there in the middle of the ocean. You would not even need to bring your mini with you.
@@NoPantsProfits Any other fun scenarios you have thrown the starlink mini in? Could be cool to just see different ideas n stuff similar to what you did with it
@NoPantsProfits cruise lines ultra cheap on rebroadcast rights onboard, plus IP tv too costly on bandwidth to this date. Providers have looked at Ku band but that is semi viable only in Europe and more for personal yachts
As good as this is I would be careful advertising that you are bringing these on the cruise ship, Carnival and most other cruise lines have rules against bringing these on board. From Carnivals Website under prohibited items it list "Satellite disk, routers and other internet related equipment". It could be argued that a Phone, Tablet or Laptop falls under this category too but they specifically exempt these.
What is a satellite disk? Mine is a square.... every iPhone since the iPhone 14 is a satellite phone...... I don't care, I'll fight the fight all the way to the top! Remember competition is what brings down prices and makes services better! I needed this dish anyways. If they want to confiscate then this issue will blow up even more! What happens when they Killed ObiWan? Strike me down and I will come back more powerful than you can ever imagine" I'm willing to bite this bullet for a better experience for all!
I must get one for science, "spaceX is now also permitted to communicate between 71 and 76 gigahertz from space to Earth, and 81-86 GHz Earth-to-space" would not think that can penetrate steel , likely bouncing off the ocean. # DNS
It’s amazing that people know they’re cannibalizing a profitable business but still put it on blast, basically waking up sleeping dogs. Maybe some UA-camrs should learn to keep things on the down-low!
Pretty positive video until the editorial comments. You make great points but name calling, even though you are probably right, is gonna get you banned. Good luck!
This is very interesting not just for vloggers, but for some who may need to work while on the ship. Thanks Richard
Well I do both!
@@NoPantsProfits new subscriber here, fro Scott the Controversial Cruiser
The phased array technology in Starlink antennas, especially in the compact “mini” model, is designed to dynamically adjust its directional beams to align with the satellite's position, which could be almost anywhere in the sky given Starlink’s satellite coverage. So while it might look like it's facing towards the ship, the real action happens through its sophisticated signal discrimination, focusing its reception towards the satellite it’s connected to-likely from the open sky area around the balcony.
I'm a multi-service licensed radio user if that means anything. :)
Awesome explanation, thanks!
Similar to what I was thinking
The secret is to use the hidden Cruise Ducks to form a mesh network.
Shut your mouth!
Richard I’m 100% sure the signal is being bounced off the ship onto your receiver. The signals cannot penetrate metal decks as they are very high frequency and will get blocked. I’m a radio ham with a physics degree, thanks for the video
Yeah... a few in the comments have floated that theory.
What service did you use? Roaming? Marine Time?
We got a Mini and we use it for our home internet and take it with us on our RV travels. Plan to take it with us on an Alaska cruise next summer.
It works great at sea as you saw.... I hope it works in Alaska for you too next summer. The service is only gonna get BETTER!
Plan on having it confiscated as well, like they did to this guy after he posted this video during his cruise. 😎
You going on the Norwegian cruise? Going to Alaska on it next summer too and might take this
You should have posted this after your cruise instead of live. They will come after you like you tried to sneak a 12 pack of beer onto the ship.
It's blown up shoreside, nobody on the boat cared. I bought the ship WiFi too, so this did not hurt their bottom line, case in point, I'm not the bad guy here but have a microphone to show who is and I'm using that microphone! Very soon ANY cell phone will do this, and their monopoly will have competition!
They did
No wonder why people laugh at you, what a dope
Thanks for the post and falling on your sword for the benefit of others. I’ve been looking for first hand experience on cruise ships. Btw, I have a Starlink Gen3 on my sailboat in the BVI. I mount it flat and don’t bother with orientation. Still works like a champ.
Thanks for seeing that I was just trying to answer the question of WILL it work! Can't really be flat mounted anywhere, but their 12 marine dishes are flat mounted on poles near the top of the ship right above the pool deck!
@@NoPantsProfits I think you could’ve laid it flat on the side table on your balcony or when you were by the pool. Would not have bothered with the kickstand
One reason they keep the price up on the plans is to limit the usage to a point where it is more useable with less total traffic.
Correct for Starlink.... incorrect for carnival directly. Carnival just has a greedy QOS!
GREAT VIDEO, RICHARD. Hopefully, I'll be able to cruise with you one of these days.
Thanks man!
The lines will ban them. It's all about revenue and profit. Why do you think they don't allow you to bring your own wine? It's a business folks.
They do let you bring a bottle per person..... lol! But yeah... I get your point! I think they will become like drones.... can use in port but not onboard and they will hold them at security.
But the point of this video is that they work.
And what happens next year when you can use your phone to connect to Starlink? Will they check your phone and confiscate it if its capable of getting its own internet?
A bunch of lines don’t allow radios so I wonder how they will classify these
The lines. Don't make profit with starlink.. They have significantly farther connections than the chap in this video, but that has to be shared up between all the people on the ship. They don't make much money, unfortunately. It's very expensive to provide internet to people on this scan in the middle of nowhere.. I very much doubt, they care.
Richard, starlink terminals use beam steering to point the signal. Orientation of the dish is basically irrelevant as long as the dish has a known point of reference.
Takes about 2 hours for it to find that point of reference on my balcony.
The beam out or mini is a 110 degree cone. You want that cone to point to as much north facing sky as possible.
I think I would have tried pointing the antenna off the balcony. Starlink is a constellation with satellites all over the sky. It may say "hey, I said north", but still work. Be interesting to see if it works. There should be satellites that direction. Even if you have to point it north so it can figure our where it is, once it has a lock, it would be interesting to turn it out to see if it gets better signal strength, and therefore speed.
Pool deck is best as it can see the entire sky! But I see your point!
Travel routers are insanely helpful on cruise ships, and it sounds like you're daisy chaining several of them together for better coverage? Seems like a lot of work, but if you get lucky and have a balcony on the 15th floor you can pick up your travel router from the lido, usually.
A little more complex than that... but yeah... I get it.
This is exactly the answer I was looking for, awesome!
And you seeking that answer is the reason I made THIS video! Glad we could be of service to each other!
That’s a really interesting episode. Tickles the techie in me. I’m guessing there must be a free usage component of onboard Wi-Fi needed to get ship wide connectivity . Thinking forward of your port call to the bridge, via a tunnel
Yep! Love the bridge, tunnel, inside a Mac Terminal!
Technically using this method, you really don’t need the Starlink at all. You could have a tunnel back to your home. It would be a bit kludge, but with a little bit of magic, doable.
@@RatticusDaddy but you will still be going through the ship starlink which is slow. It’s a good solution for free internet assuming they don’t block off free internet going off the ship but not for faster internet
This was a really exersize and answerd some questions of mine. Thanks.
Glad it helped you out!
Interesting, wonder if this would work on lower deck on bigger ship like the icon of the seas
Needs northern visibility!
You don't need to point it north, there are satellites everywhere in the sky. Point it towards clear sky if northern sky has metal obstruction (glass, wood does not seem to be a problem).
In the video it works because it has roughly 100 degree of view so it had some view out to the southern sky where there are satellites.
Yep! Thanks!
I have thought about doing this. I am afraid it is only a matter of time before the cruise lines ban you from bringing the Starlink receiver. They will come up with some BS excuse like it interfering with their navigation or something.
Carnival actually has them on the banned list already.
They have 12 of practically the same units on every ship!
Actually it says satellite disk..... these are not dishes, it's the same technology built into every iPhone.
From Carnival’s ban list “Satellite disk, routers and other internet related equipment” (whatever is a satellite disk). I understand that they already have the same equipment onboard and that it isn’t using any technology that doesn’t already exist in a phone, but the cruise line wants the money and control that comes from monopolizing access to the internet. I think there is an implication that if you are trying to find a way around their control, it is because you want to do something nefarious, not just save money. Plus, if you want to build your bridge, you are going to need some “other internet related equipment.”
I get you.... the "equipment" needed is a laptop and an Ethernet cable, nothing more, nothing less.... well possibly a masters degree in some IT field, but yeah.... I get your point.
Excellent and informative! Now share the Bridge! :)
lol! No idea what you are talking about.
Great informative info. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful.... shot... edited and uploaded today via the Starlink mini.
@@NoPantsProfits Fantastic!
If I understood you, it sounded like you could turn the subscription off and on when needed. i. e. Not daily but the length of the cruise, then when your next cruise comes up, turn the service back on?
Cruise internet package days are numbered. Amazon will be launching its satellite internet in 2025 (Project Kuiper). The dish will be the size of an iPhone pro max. Phone manufacturers are already working on integrating the satellite dish into the phone.
All correct statements above and the Starlink mini shows just how close they actually are to achieving this. Thanks for the comment!
Which plan did you use there ?
Marine plan!
great video. firstly, youre probably the first one to try this. Just wait a couple of months; the cruise lines will ban these as they ban drones now. They will tell us some BS that it has to do with safety blah blah blah. Second, Starlink may not allow this if cruise ships dont ban their use. If i recall correctly, you can use the mini if you have the roam plan up to 12 miles into the ocean. After 12 miles you need to have a much MUCH more expensive plan that they have for people with Yachts. Its a few hundred a month and not for unlimited data. So there you have it. again, awesome video- thank you for making it; but enjoy while you can because as sure as i am writing this, im that sure it will be banned by the cruise lines in the near future as more and more people buy the mini. Subbed
Stack it with a laptop.... undetectable.... just saying!
The thing with the monthly payments for starlink is that you can cancel and change at any time. So you can upgrade to the more expensive plan for just the month your going away and still tends to be cheaper then the onboard WiFi and you can change back once you return
what plan are you on? The 50 gig roam or the roam unlimited which you can use inmotion and other feature or does the 50 gig roam also include inmotion?
As of last week, it includes in motion, price goes up next month.
@@NoPantsProfits so while you were making this video you were on the 50 gg roam and not roam unlimited. I heard that the 50 gig roam includes inmotion but havent heard that from Starlink.
So that maritime plan is limited to 50gb a month while at sea and once inport with the same plan left over 50gb gonna be safe and unlimited data will be activated am I right
@@MrRibauw You are right
Just thinking out loud here, but is it possible your antenna is connecting to the next closest satellite, South bound? I would think it is impossible the signal can penetrate through the ship. The app tells you to point North because that's where the closest satellite is, but after a certain amount of time when it doesn't connect, maybe it connects to the next closest available, which in your room would be South. I would be curious if the speeds would be better if you ignored the app and pointed the antenna South, that may confirm it if speeds improve.
Once connected speeds are about the same. On the way back from Hawaii my cabin will be facing north!
Questions can you add ports to it ? can it be use in other countries? is it better then the bigger dish?
Can be used worldwide! Has one Ethernet built in.... you could connect to a switch or router for technically unlimited ports. The bigger dish is no cheaper and self aiming but this can be run on DC power (battery packs and cigarette lighters) so it's smaller and more power efficient. Hope that answers your questions.
I’ve been waiting for this 😊
This is the way!
This video rocks, thanks for sharing. BridgeIT from the bridge says hi, and to stop talking about her. 😁
Hell yeah! Much respect from the DNS world!
I was wondering if I could use the mini package as a Marie Time plan(MOBILE PRIORITY PLAN,boats), but I found out after watching this video
50GB/mon,1TB/mon right?
Correct.... you need the highest package!
highest package? Which package did you have with this video?
$50 50G
Or
$165 unlimited
Roam?
It’s actually using your flat window as a reflection of the radio signal waves.
Totally possible!
What data plan did you use for the Starlink mini?
Mobile priority 50gb... which has ocean access.
The ship doesn’t care you can use the star link ? Can they shutdown the star link ?
Nope! Just stack it with a laptop!
Cruise lines need to lower internet cost. Point blank that's why you have to try and do this stuff. Its ridiculous how much they charge!!
And increase QUALITY when you pay for their top package!
What plan are you using for starling? Because my English is not so good. Thank you.
That marine one. $250 a month.
@@NoPantsProfits is it unlimited?
@@mahoney439 50GB when at Sea!
Im surprised you could get the do not share network to work as my experience is network isolation dies not share it as expected. Would be nice for those ships that don't have a way to communicate with other guests. (I don't care too much about the internet but having to pay for internet to just contact other people on board is a rip off)
IP freely.... that's all I'll say!
My father is traveling on the Costa Pacifica at the moment and when he boarded he told me that they have already banned the use of Starlink Mini. The internet on the cruise is still crap. Even radio listening devices (they don't transmit anything) are prohibited.
Yep.... but then they use Starlink themselves....
Does the cable to connect the mini to the anker is included on the package? If not where can I get one? Any links?
Here is the link! USB C to DC 5.5mm x 2.1mm Power... www.amazon.com/dp/B0D1Y3QTNR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Shoulda got a clip mount for the ship railing. May free up balcony space
Not a bad idea!
what packages you choose? maritime? is this unlimited quota?
Maritime, 50GB data at sea (12 nautical or more miles or more from land) and unlimited everywhere else.
Just got off when you got on, we were supposed to stay on; but we cancelled.
Saw your crab shack video I think! Would have been fun to collab onboard!
@@NoPantsProfits I have a lot booked, maybe we will be on at the same time soon. I cancelled the Hawaii because after getting back from Alaska with two sea days, 4 more would have been bad. I would have to have a liver transplant or mortgage my house LOL. I did give you credit for putting the glacier ice in my drink when we got back on the ship. That will be in my Tracy Arm Fyord video in a few days. Have fun and don't drink all 15 in an hour.
What plan did you have to sign up for?
The top one with 50GB marine data and unlimited anywhere else.
Thank you.i am an officer onboard cargo ship and we get 500mb per month that too so slow that even whatsapp message get delayed to deliver.This will be a life changer
I just want to know if airlines will allow these as i have to join from different countries most of the time
Airlines will have zero issues if you don't power them up onboard.
@@NoPantsProfits Thank you and did you select maritime plan on this star link as i have heard after 15 nautical mile from coastal waters you wont get connection for normal plans.If you didnt took a maritime plan will this support maritime plans?
@@S9FE-mj1kz It was maratime
They also took away our Bluetooth speakers even if we use them responsibly in our own State Room. I will still be using my Bluetooth speaker, my sleep sound machine, and my small portable radio... just not on Carnival Cruise Lines.😅
Guess we can't be trusted with technology!
@@NoPantsProfits Yes sir! And loved your Carnival 15 drink package tryout you did a while back! Keep the great videos coming!
they allowed you to take it on the ship with no issues?
Correct! Looks just like a laptop!
can the starlink mini change its plan to the boat plan for using on ocean?
Yes it can!
thank yoy sir❤
Awesome experiment! Good to know. Thanks No pants.
Glad to be of assistance!
Hi there, I'm planning to go on a cruise, this is my first time going and I found that using the ship internet service cost a bomb. So I thought of using Starlink and I saw your youtube, this is amazing ! But so sad you also got it confiscated. As I am thinking which cruises disallow to bring Starlink aborad ? And how do you make it work thoughout the entire ship to use your own Starlink ? Thank you for your help.
I can't help with the second question, technically nobody specifically bans the Starlink brand because they all use them on their ships themselves.
I’ve brought it on board for 3 cruises already….no issues by staff what so ever. They won’t be able to defeat the ever evolving technology….especially when cell phones will be able to connect to starlink in the very near future.
Fuck yeah. I'm only as two and they are the fucking dumbasses!
Very helpful... are you using theb ocean package ?
Sorry just seen on the 50gb data roaming ?
No... you need the ocean package.
Do you have the Personal - Roam plan or the Personal - Boats plan?
Boats.
Also, one of the differences between Carnival via Starlink and your Starlink Mini tests is that you are right next to your wireless router and likely using 5GHz. Perhaps if you found a wireless access point on the cruise ship and then tested you'd get better results via Carnival. You're likely on 2.4GHz on carnival in that pool location. Regardless, good video!
I've tested with the a 5ghz router right outside my room.... similar results. Just FYi.
@@NoPantsProfits figured you’d test this! Cheers!
You mentioned starlink is cheaper for a month but is that true? On the ocean it's very expensive?
Vs a cruise ship WiFi plan it is... but I may have an even cheaper option coming soon. If your phone is unlocked check out GigSky!
So you didnt need the maritime package?
Yes I did.
Very good upload speed
For where the ship was, it was phenomenal!
@@NoPantsProfits yeah
I have a feeling that cruise lines will soon add Starlink Minis to the list of things you cannot bring with you on a cruise.
Legally they cannot.... they can't specifically ban that unit due to the contract they have with Starlink.... they can't specifically ban say they ban satellite dishes but this is not a satellite dish.
If u leave it on your deck, can u walk around the ship n still have signal
No!
That is very cool although I must say that on my last Norwegian cruise they took away my power strip. They said I was not allowed to bring a power strip. I was devastated.
Yep.... soon you will have to board naked!
You know that you caused the cruise lines to ban Starlink mini on the cruise lines now.
Not at all.... I've taken one on EVERY cruise I've gone on since this video.
Any cruisier companys inform that is clear passengers walkie talkies on bord, until 5 W. How you said, the smartphones will comunicate by satellite. Which company will no prrmit smartphones ?
I'm going to release a video on the current satellite capability's of the iPhone 14, 15 and 16 soon!
Great info
Thanks
Give that some cruise line have multi outlet adapters and power strips on banned item lists how long before the mini gets added
Same tech is inside every iPhone, from a techie this is grasping at straws, from an everyone out at the pool with their dish side it is not.
All iPhones since iPhone 14 have satellite communication technology!
I was just on the Miracle to Alaska. Jealous! Do you work remote? How do you make the $$$ to cruise so much?
Yes I work remotely!
Also UA-cam ad revenue!
I suppose if your independently wealthy it would work nicely. 250 a month is crazy.
That's way less than cruise ships charge for WiFi per month...
You're on Portside. Since you're heading west, it would probably work even better in a Starboard cabin, which faces north.
Yes, it likely would!
Didn't they take it away??
After this video there was a follow up, that's correct.
@@NoPantsProfits If you hadn't posted the video, how would they have known?
@@KentFleshman Would noy have!
The cruise ship could get a commercial package for the ship from starlink and then everyone would have decent internet out there in the middle of the ocean.
You would not even need to bring your mini with you.
They have that, their internal infrastructure is not good though... newer ships are great and I DONT need my dish.
What if you dont have a balcony?
Hence the pool deck test I guess....
@@NoPantsProfits no I meant in your cabin since it worked facing it towards the ship
$250 only out outdoors with data cap on it?
Technically true.
It works in the cabin. That's wild
I know right? Not sure what it's bouncing off.... but it does work!
Facing the dish north only makes sense if your sky is unobstructed. Pointing it at the metal ship isn't going to work well.
Fully agree.... but for some reason it worked.... could have been bouncing.
Wow good numbers
😮😮
Great numbers!
"no ones gonna stop you from taking this on a cruise ship" ... one day later the carnival CIO bans all starlinks and takes his starlink.
God luck to them!
@@NoPantsProfits That aged well 😭
@@justnathan_4087 It did!
@@NoPantsProfits Any other fun scenarios you have thrown the starlink mini in? Could be cool to just see different ideas n stuff similar to what you did with it
@@justnathan_4087 ua-cam.com/video/CcbyJ62D-pg/v-deo.html
Probably don’t wanna set up electricity poolside
It's a few volts of USB power.... basically what's cell phone uses!
That is SOOOO awesome
Yeah it does work..... and well... I guess that's why they have 12 starlink dishes onboard!
Great video.
Thanks man!
@@NoPantsProfits just saw they confiscated it. They are fighting starlink with starlink jaja
Yep!
No signal on TV, that's because its C-Band for TVRO Dish. No coverage middle of Pacific. Nothing to do with internet.
Most TV is IP now, but yeah, I get you! My ESPN+ worked fine!
@NoPantsProfits cruise lines ultra cheap on rebroadcast rights onboard, plus IP tv too costly on bandwidth to this date. Providers have looked at Ku band but that is semi viable only in Europe and more for personal yachts
You should’ve waited to post this, it’s sad some hater had to reach out to Carnival.
I disagree, awareness of something is paramount.
As good as this is I would be careful advertising that you are bringing these on the cruise ship, Carnival and most other cruise lines have rules against bringing these on board. From Carnivals Website under prohibited items it list "Satellite disk, routers and other internet related equipment". It could be argued that a Phone, Tablet or Laptop falls under this category too but they specifically exempt these.
What is a satellite disk? Mine is a square.... every iPhone since the iPhone 14 is a satellite phone...... I don't care, I'll fight the fight all the way to the top! Remember competition is what brings down prices and makes services better! I needed this dish anyways. If they want to confiscate then this issue will blow up even more! What happens when they Killed ObiWan? Strike me down and I will come back more powerful than you can ever imagine" I'm willing to bite this bullet for a better experience for all!
Where is the specific exemption for iPhone 14 and above? I'd love to see it.... because those are satellite phones!
@@NoPantsProfits I know, Satellite Disk? It makes me laugh. Good luck with the fight if it comes.
It will be documented in PUBLIC on this channel... I'm not one to say like and subscribe..... but in this case.... you probably should!
I must get one for science, "spaceX is now also permitted to communicate between 71 and 76 gigahertz from space to Earth, and 81-86 GHz Earth-to-space" would not think that can penetrate steel , likely bouncing off the ocean. # DNS
Cheers for science!
Between Hawaii and California is not the exact middle of the pacific ocean... Take a look at a map... It's at Point Nemo...
It's pretty remote.... sorry for the generalization there. Coordinates are in the video description.... it's the middle of the two points.
I heard they banned them after seeing this video.
But can they catch them..... weed is banned on the ship and it smells like weed all the time!
Cruise lines will ban this ASAP - Internet is a money maker for them - a cash cow !!!
They cannot legally say they have banned Starlink without breaking good faith agreements with Starlink.
Your starlink mini was confiscated, so no you cannot use it, let alone bring it onboard.
Incorrect, many have brought onboard and used since mine was confiscated! They have sent me emails confirming that.
No thanks, I'll pay for ships wifi.
It's not the price, it's the quality of the service.
Why doesn't Carnival get Starlink ? I thought they were.
They have it, but it works like shit on their old ships!
@@NoPantsProfits Does ship internet
work well in Jubilee?
@@glenwoolsey4698 Yes... I even made a video on it! It can deliver true starlink speeds!
Very good, Brasil. Any companys clear walkie talkies people until 5 W.
@@glenwoolsey4698… It works nice on the celebration.
It’s amazing that people know they’re cannibalizing a profitable business but still put it on blast, basically waking up sleeping dogs. Maybe some UA-camrs should learn to keep things on the down-low!
Nah.... also it's interesting how poor their implementation is actually getting the service to the end user.
Sent over from La Lido Loca
Thanks for coming over!
dont advertise it and they wont know.
Or do, and it may cause change!
$300 doesn’t seem to bad for 15 days.
If reliable yes....
You missed the part where his little antenna got 30x more speed for zero dollars. It's the lack of speed.
What about the $600 antenna and $250 monthly fee?
That's not exactly free.
Can you do this on a plane? 🤭
Airlines are... but it's on the outside. I can confirm it does work on a bus or train!
Depressing i cant be on a ship
Anyone can be! Why can't you?
Pretty positive video until the editorial comments. You make great points but name calling, even though you are probably right, is gonna get you banned. Good luck!
Good luck to them! Their internal infrastructure is trash on older ships!
Uhhhhm wow
Yep! Lol
@@NoPantsProfits Did they just let you use the maritime plan with the mini? Everything I see says you can’t but clearly you did? Can you say?
@@sirobin171 As of last wendesday,. yes..... any starlink device can use any plan!
I think that you may have a susesfull judicial process.
Thanks I guess!
20:50 Yeah, this didnt age well. 🤣
But it will!
Theyre greedy. They should allow it.
They should allow it for sure.
The answer is, no you can’t.
Yeah you can!
@@NoPantsProfits and have it confiscated.
No you can’t this why ya got caught
Can and may have 2 different meanings.... you know the difference between can info to the bathroom and may info to the bathroom right?