Army of the Dead - When a Filmmaker Grows too Powerful | Anatomy Of A Failure
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Army of the Dead is another Zack Snyder big streaming movie following The Snyder Cut of Justice League, this time for Netflix and starring Dave Bautista aka Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy. And as great as it is to see Snyder putting out new films and getting it to the top of Netflix top 10, Army of the Dead seems to suffer from the opposite problem her was having with Warner Brothers and DCEU -- too much control. No matter how talented Snyder is, there is a danger to a director not having to hear no from others -- we saw that with George Lucas's prequels , Michael Bay's Transformers Age of Extinction and The Last Knight, Christopher Nolan's Tenet and so on. So in today's Anatomy of a Failure, lets look at Army of the Dead to see what to watch out for when you're in full creative control.
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Army of the Dead (2021)
From filmmaker Zack Snyder (300, Watchmen, Zack Snyder’s Justice League), ARMY OF THE DEAD takes place following a zombie outbreak that has left Las Vegas in ruins and walled off from the rest of the world. When Scott Ward (Dave Bautista), a former zombie war hero who’s now flipping burgers on the outskirts of the town he now calls home, is approached by casino boss Bly Tanaka (Hiroyuki Sanada), it’s with the ultimate proposition: break into the zombie-infested quarantine zone to retrieve $200 million sitting in a vault beneath the strip before the city is nuked by the government in 32 hours. With little left to lose, Ward takes on everything wrong with Army of the dead honest trailer army of the dead plot holes army of the dead watch full movie online free 4k hd army of the dead 4k clip hd Army of the Dead | Official Trailer | Netflix Zack snyder army of the dead queen zombie clip helicopter fight scene casino fight army of the dead explained time loop army of the dead fight scene batman warehouse army of the dead rant bad movie 300 how to film style why snyder cut worked where Josstice League failed movies the challenge, assembling a ragtag team of experts for the heist. With a ticking clock, a notoriously impenetrable vault, and a smarter, faster horde of Alpha zombies closing in, only one thing’s for certain in the greatest heist ever attempted: survivors take all. Starring Dave Bautista, Ella Purnell, Omari Hardwick, Ana de la Reguera, Theo Rossi, Matthias Schweighöfer, Nora Arnezeder, Hiroyuki Sanada, Tig Notaro, Raúl Castillo, Huma Qureshi, Samantha Win, Michael Cassidy, Richard Cetrone, and Garret Dillahunt.
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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Batman (Ben Affleck) and Superman (Henry Cavill) clash over differing philosophies about what kind of heroism is needed to protect the world, while the public they're defending is becoming increasingly mindful of the damage that superheroes and masked vigilantes cause. However, the duo are soon forced to confront an even greater threat created by nefarious billionaire Lex Luthor (Jesse Eisenberg). Directed by Zack Snyder, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice also co-stars Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Jeremy Irons as Alfred the butler, and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
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Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021)
In Zack Snyder's Justice League, determined to ensure Superman’s (Henry Cavill) ultimate sacrifice was not in vain, Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) aligns forces with Diana Prince (Gal Gadot) with plans to recruit a team of metahumans to protect the world from an approaching threat of catastrophic proportions. The task proves more difficult than Bruce imagined, as each of the recruits must face the demons of their own pasts to transcend allowing them to come together, finally forming an unprecedented snyder cut spoiler discussion Zack Snyder's Justice League - Angry Review league of heroes. Now united, Batman (Affleck), Wonder Woman (Gadot), Aquaman (Jason Momoa), Cyborg (Ray Fisher), Zack Snyder's Justice League Justice is gray edition and The Flash (Ezra Miller) why is the snyder cut better than justice league snyder cut or justice league may be too late to save the planet from Steppenwolf, DeSaad, and Darkseid and their dreadful intentions. - Фільми й анімація
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Nice
Yes Mechagodzilla is not empty CGI.
Tbh i don't know why people had high expectations for this film.
Its clearly just meant to be a crazy Zombie movie. Thats it
Filmento , Can You Please Do Dawn Of The Dead (2004) Directed By Zack Snyder Also And Make Comparisons Between These 2 Movies
I agree with you and I even slightly agree with your final point in your Godzilla Vs Kong video but I would just like to say this. The difference between MechaGodzilla and Doomsday is that MechaGodzilla was established from the very beginning of the story, he was shown to be the reason Godzilla was hurting people, and it feeds into his motivation of being the king of the monsters. The entire movie Godzilla has been Juggling his hunt for MechaGodzilla and his Hunt for Kong. Thus in Hong Kong he couldn’t finish off Kong but he was drawn away by his primary goal, which has been killing MechaGodzilla. When he sees his other enemy is down he makes the choice to not finish him off and go try to kill the even greater threat
Here's another plot hole: If Scorpion wants to rob his own casino, why didn't he just give the password to the safe to Bautista;
ikr!
for most of the movie that was going around in my head
i mean you could argue he was hoping most would die to the traps, but that doesn't explain why no one didn't ask him for the code...
It wasn't about robbing the casino, didn't you watch the movie?
Don't forget Scorpion mostly wanted the queens head so idk he just wanted them to go in as a security for his guar or whatever
@@mrb00ce2 thats true, but for some reason the team is not told that (surely it would have been easier to make that the objective but whatever) so why not tell them the code anyway, or promise them them whats in it if they can get the zombie head as well?
The more you think about the movie, the less sense it makes...for example, I havent notice the girl says "you killed my mother", which opens the possibility that she wasnt even Bautista's daughter...add to that to the pile of nonsense the movie has; zombies are actually robots, the girls suddenly doesnt care anymore about her friend, movie has UFOs, the dead baby dies again when his dead mother dies again...
I love that everyone refers to the characters as Bautista, Scorpion, and the daughter.
The daughter was soooo useless, pointless, worthless and forgettable that no one wants to use their remaining brain power to have her name in their head
Because none of the characters are even considered characters. The daughter is a annoying idiot, and the love interest was so stupid when her neck got snapped 180degrees it was like a joke
the Daughter reminds me of Barbara from George Romero's Night Of The Living Dead
my god she was so useless, but atleast we understand because she's in a catatonic state, it makes sense because she was being chased by the Graveyard zombie (or as they used to be called ghouls) who also killed Johnny (sorry for the spoilers)
@@higaiwokeru yeah i agree that Daughter was way more forgettable than Barbara from Night Of The Living Dead
and i'd rather have that over Army Of The Dead
Noland
In movies I hate hate hate the
"I'm coming with you" trope
Why? It''s valid when it's valid and you should come with someone if it's needed to do so. Don't get your deal with it.
I also hate the
"Im coming with you, but main protagonist disagrees then they sneak in anyway and join up, causing main protagonist to reluctantly carry on with them anyway"
@@ChefofWar33 there’s nothing really wrong with that. Only characters who do that are kids!
Buzz!! I'm coming with you!
Huh! Wait! Nooo iii'm not! **slam**
Ever since Trinity said it in the Matrix and Neo's like "no you're not" I'm like OMG STFU WE ALREADY SAW HER GO WITH YOU IN THE TRAILER
Daughter: " I'm not angry that you had to kill the love of your life in the most traumatizing experience possible, leaving you probably emotionally scarred for the rest of your life, I'm angry that you didn't openly talk it."
Bautista in a random friday: Remember when I kill your mother? that was sad lol
That was friday
-Rebecca Black
@@kaiokendo was that shit joke in your back pocket waiting for this moment? lol
I understood that, but it still felt bland. Not that emotional
I almost stopped watching the movie when she said this!!!
The recruitment scene reminds of the heist episode of Rick and Morty, where everyone is like, "You son of a bitch, I'm in" 😂😂😂
Yea cus that Rick and morty episode was literally making fun of recruitment scenes in heist movies soooooo............lol
@@fritschxf yeah, that's what I'm saying, it was too easy to convince them for very deadly mission
Haha i was the same. while watching the recruitment scenes i started thinking of that episode.
Shit talkers of Oceans 11.
OMG I THOUGHT THE SAME!!!
if I had a penny for every shaky cam close-up shot that was used in this movie, I'd be able to fund a sequel
Don't forget the slow Mo shots
He dosen't need your money. He's already way richer than your entire family could've ever reached
You don't have to. The sequel AND A prequel is already planned apparently
But if you did, please don't.
I love Snyder but yeah, I absolutely hated this movie. Same with Mortal Kombat. I loved the games (up until MK11...the story is dog sh*t) but yeah, the remake movie is terrible.
@@lightyagami6292 uh-oh did somebody hit a nerve
11:30 There are many moments like this in the movie where the "Gameplay" is over and it enters a "Cutscene" where the players have to watch someone get killed to progress the story. They couldn't save her cause the controls didn't work.
Press F to pay respects.
@Erik Kemeey no body helped her they just let her die
My theory is that whole movie is a game someone is playing . Thus the body loop and cutscene feeling
Felt very much like a Telltale game.
Holy shit, this was an unexpected cameo.
maybe if they let zack release a 5 hour cut of the movie it might actually turn out to be decent one
lol
or not lmao
@@ggiufa7289 yeah no amount of extra time will this this clusterfuq of a movie
I don't think that could happen again so soon 😅
Overall I think was a fun movie to watch and have some good time and zack snyder isnt a smartass director like nolan bruh
The daughter’s legit motive was “I AINT BOUT TO TAKE CARE OF HER KIDS! da fuq!?”
HAHAHAHAH YESSSS THIS. She couldnt care less that if she died the kids would be orphaned
When I saw this I thought her motivation was a love interest because I obviously missed the tent scene with the kids.
Which is an interesting take because in real life women love taking care of other peoples kids lol
It was more "I know what losing a mother feels like" but it was still funny
That's a humourous way of looking at it. She really seems to want to make sure the kids have a mother still. Also, the woman is a friend of hers.
This movie was basically Zack Snyder playing around with action figures and doing everything that's "cool". It's like he's had all these ideas since childhood and finally got the chance to make them real.
He actually had this idea back in 2004 so this isn’t entirely wrong.
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT YIKES
XD
Zack Snyder is the successor of Micheal Bay
The only thing is that he couldn't make all the main actors scantily-clad lolitas. It must have been such a disappointment for him!
...Jesus. Zack Snyder is the worst. I really don't know how he Stockholm Syndromed so many people.
@@Mmmmilo are you going on a hatewagon or what?
Beginning of the movie: the most catastrofic BJ in all History.
Agreed
Well at least he…blew a load
Never give head. MORAL OF THE STORY
*catastrophic
You're welcome.
@@aronblanche while driving yeah....like risk ur life sex?......so dumb
Reminds me how good 28 days later was. Even a single zombie was a real threat and that remained consistent through the entire film
Yeah that was one damn cool horror movie.
28 Days Later may be my favorite zombie movie.
28 Weeks was fun, too. Too bad we never got 28 Months :(
There are rumors that we will get a 28 months later! @@interdimensionalsteve8172
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Yeah, what a shame.
I wouldn’t mind another entry in the franchise tbh.
Also funny how Batisda's character complains about his job preparing food all day and how he's stuck there. And later reveals his dream is to have a food truck, where he would be preparing food all day.. I know his lobster rolls are different from flipping burgers. But the tedium would still be the same after a while
That's true but it's a big difference when you actually own the business rather than taking orders. He seemed more passionate about lobster rolls than ground beef.
I agree with this somewhat but I think the point of his character expressing that as his dream, was that he really just wanted to be involved with his daughter again
I loved how his character arc out of nowhere was that he wanted to use his money on a food truck as if he wanted one his entire life or something.
I didn't catch that, but now that you mention it....Yeah, kinda see the issue there. Maybe he wants the autonomy? I mean, there's a difference between being the cook making all the decisions than doing a rote task in fast food.
Trust me there is a big difference between working your ass off for someone else vs. getting to be your own boss, which actually IS, harder work but the satisfaction that this is all on you and all yours is very different.
This sounds like another case of a things not making sense causing things to not have the emotional impact they were going for. It's hard to know whether or not you're supposed to be afraid of the zombies when whether the zombies are a credible threat or just a joke seems to be entirely dependent on the needs of the individual scenes and not the narrative as a whole.
It was
Was it? Maybe.
I enjoyed the fight scenes.
I didnt focus on story at all Lol
Papa possum
@@thecod2345 that depends. some did find great connection in that moment and did NOT gagd about it.
so it actually depends from person to person. same with Army of the dead. where some people DID connected emotionally with the characters small details and exchanges. & sure, For some like Possum or Filmento thats Nothing.., while others do love the particulars of each situation & dialogue. (which end building the narrative in a more efficient way for them) (but again, not for everyone).
I can find a lot of meaning in one Look of a particular character & you may see the same thing and not care or find it interesting at all.
So, again it depends.
Another problem that I personally have with the film are the zombies, they don't feel like zombies, they seem more proto-vampires, you have the weak who are many in number but easy to kill, who are guided by a herd of beings more intelligent and stronger than them, they need to hide from the sun or they die, have a hivernation state in dark places
Of course it's okay to try to distance yourself from the classic zombie formula, but in this movie they just feel like green vampires.
Some of the zombies were robots.
This in my opinion was fine, but the fact that there was no consistency in that is the problem, the darkness & sunlight only affected zombies when it was convenient
I love how that guy at the end emerges from the vault into the radioactive wasteland and doesn’t die from radiation in the first 30 seconds if that.
Radiation is overblown especially with modern nuclear weapons.
The daughters whole reason for going was to find the mother of those kids and when they crashed at the end we DONT KNOW IF SHE LIVED OR NOT??? Lol 😂
Did you miss the helicopter crash? She died, buddy.
She basically killed every character in the movie
@@kiBe- No, idiot, the zombies killed the characters. Martin and the Zombies are to blame for all this not the girl who was trying to save a mother.
@@Thefutureending finally a man who speaks english
@Deep Kumar Her kids aren’t at the concentration camp and it was Zeus that caused the helicopter to crash.
I swear the part when the zombie queen is running away all goofy with her arms behind her like that I busted up laughing so hard, kept rewinding it, too funny.
Fucking same
Same here
@Luis Rojas Naruto run is more hunched over and with straight arms, she was just running like a goof
She's a zombie so... They usually don't move like humans
@Luis Rojas Area 51 is right around the corner of Vegas.
When that small ass vehicle crashed into the military vehicle and caused a giant explosion, i already knew this was going to be a BS movie.
Yeah... Military vehicles especially ones on the mission to carry important cargo shouldn't be so weak they immediately cause an explosion when ran into by another car
And then all the army dudes survived
And how the hell did that container go flying with how heavy it was? It's like these people don't understand or care about physics.
@@victortachiquin4965 They probably thought it would look cool to make it fly on impact hahaha
And how the vehicle leading the way swerved out of the way, allowing the car to slam into the highly important thing, that was so important as to justify a military convoy
From what I noticed, this movie seems to imply that there’s a time loop, some robot zombies possibly controlled by the government, aliens being part of the origin of the zombie/super soldier experiments, and other stuff going on. I’m curious as to what the prequel animated series and Army of Thieves will bring to this universe
Probably nothing of value. Snyder is a terrible writer and doesn't have the imagination to pull together that many plot threads in any kind of way that would be compelling or make sense.
What?
@@MrMViceroy and you were right lmao
The way that pregnant zombie runs off is just fucking funny, whereas the scene was full of tension, can't decide whether to laugh or be anxious?
Noticed that too. She runs off like a ballerina reject.
I was expecting her to yell "woop, woop, woop, woop" while running
@@DoNutx777 WORT WORT WORT
@@DoNutx777 lol
@@Imblu95 AHHH, LOHBABA!!
If the daughter character did not exist, the movie would automatically be 50% better.
New Hollywood cliche. If you have a male-led film, you have to have at least one female character constantly chastising them for every perceived mistake.
@@garrick3727 yeah, father's daughters are plainly used as tokens/objects to make you feel sympathy for the father in a lot of movies.
Migue Guerra yeah but usually in the beggining and them they are forgotten. In this movie she had to tag along and it was just annoying, like an escort mission in a videogame.
The movie would've been shorter also and more focused on the stupid heist
Badabing Bing yes it would be just mindless fun but that’s better than what we got
Another thing about the movie is: why did they want the Queen's head when it was the King zombie that actually has the power to make variant zombies when the other ones can't
Yeah, it doesn't work. The, "Hey, I'm your love interest! Whoops, I'm dead" transition in about 15 seconds flat is an all-too-apt metaphor for how much time and energy the movie is willing to invest in emotional connections as a whole. Good zombie movies make you feel that there's something affecting in a character's death, whether it's "their fatal flaw came back to bite them" or "yes, that character would sacrifice themselves at that point for the greater good" or even just, "Aw, not Joe. That's tragic bad luck, I guess no one is safe". AotD, it just feels like, "Yep, they've casually handled every obstacle in their way up to now, but that's where the script says they die, neatly spaced out with all the other deaths."
Maybe I'm in the minority here, or perhaps it could have been done better, but I do understand what Zack was going for there. Imagine, you have someone you are close to, have been for years, then at a certain moment you grow even closer only to lose them almost immediately. It would be emotionally devastating, IMO.
@@kardnails8729 Your Mileage May Vary, as they say. From my point of view, I can certainly *imagine* such an emotional response; the problem is that the movie hasn't really *shown* us either the build-up or the pay-off of such a response, and further, that there are other, less effective portions of the movie that could have been trimmed to provide the time to do just that. If that connection had been trimmed out of the movie entirely, would it have made a significant difference to anything that happens afterwards?
I hated that the unequal share of the 50 million didn't cause tension between people in the group.
Trueeee i thought that it would be a plot point later on. I even thought all the dehydrated zombies would rise up and hinder their escape later on but nooo the shite didnt pay off
@@raitorino7520 so many wasted lines of dialogue lol.
Yea, like he gives 2 milion to the pilot and Im like aaaa ok? 2 milion is a good number. Then give 20k to everyone else tf?
How about the fact that the helicopter cannot possibly carry all that money AND the team (or however many of them is left)...
They mentioned not telling everyone how much money there was to steal. If you hear $20,000 you might not question it either...
The scene of that lady getting her neck snapped by a zombie made me laugh harder than i have in a while
Right when tf has a zombie ever snapped someone’s neck lol
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 when has a zombie ever existed? it is a fantasy race, it is perceived differently by everyone
@@Sam-dd7jm gai take
Yea, and to add to how silly the scene was, Dave Bautistas character seemd to go threw serveral emotions in such a short span. First they are arguing so he seems confused, then a realisation of love for the women, confusion when suprised by the zombies in the elevator and finally heartbreak and anger over her death. All of this in a span of three seconds. I barely had time to process the poorely hinted love between the two characters and their sudden declaration of love and then she died with a goofy ass neck snap...
What does you profile picture reference to?
"Movie bored of itself." Brilliant!
I'll always know Zack as the guy who made comic book adaptations so bad the author asked not to be mentioned in the credits
Alan Moore generally never likes adapting any of stories. But you have to be reasonable Watchmen is not easy story to adapt to movies. This were WB and zack made mistake. In hopes of making a movie which adapts one of the great graphic novel of all time they totally overlooked that complex nature of it's story and how general audience will understand it.
nah, Synder DID do a incredible job with Watchmen and 300 entirely so as they ARE both great films for the most part! Especially 300 which is one of Zack Synder's BEST films that he made, And Synder's work for Watchmen was overall pretty close to the source material and very accurate but the comic of Watchmen has WAY too much stuff in it to adapt everything in it.
And Alan Moore is usually against any adaption of his work, no matter how fantastic it is. That's just him being an stubborn old man , not the adaptors fault for doing all the great work that they've done.
Woman on radio: "YOU GUYS NEED TO GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE CARGO!!!"
soldier: "errr guys? Hey guys? Let's go. Leave it"
There's no reason a movie this dumb should be nearly 2.5 hours long
Instead of using the car to bail, they prefer running on foot🤣 dumbass soldiers
@@edwardcee.adamadam9871 Lol right? They had a perfectly working armored Humvee behind them, and instead take off on foot into the desert. Makes no sense!
Exactly!! This is the first thing we saw and i just knew instantly there’s going to be a lot of foolish people making equally foolish decisions
And people are gonna ignore the GTA 5 level physics of a car colliding with an armored fucking truck and somehow BLOWING UP and taking out said armored truck and also, some-fucking-how, causing the SAFE to open?!?!
It's a dumb, dumb movie.
Woman over radio: “FUCKING GO, LEAVE IT, GET OUTTA THEERRREEEE”
Soldier: *waits 17 seconds* “Um.. guys? 🥺👉👈 I think we should get away- I mean not if you don’t want to..”
I know right! They're escorting a storage container out of Area 51 and their callsign is "The Four Horsemen" ... You'd think they'd move with a bit more purpose when their command says "YO GTFO UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR WIFE COLLECTING YOUR PENSION!"
it wasnt actually dumb scene cuz nobody listen to a woman that immediately
LMAO lauhged my ass off nice commemt
For me the breaking point was when the two sole survivors running away in raw terror from an unknown feral mass murdering unstoppable beast hunter thing suddenly stop in the desert and do funny shenanigans. One guy trips, shoots in the air, they both put clown noses on and have a wholesome laugh session before getting slaughtered, who would have thought, by the feral hunter killer beast thingy.
That was so dumb that I really had to just sit, facepalm and groan.
Also a dozen trained soldiers , armed with big guns get surprised and murdered by a single zombie, is just ridiculous
I complained so bitterly about 11:33, that death was pointless. He had the accuracy to shoot her tank, but not the zombies 😂😂😂. Sometimes Snyder isn't Snyder
if Zack could create the movie all himself it would easily last 7 hours and 3 hours of slo-mo
"When in a fluke just use a nuke" - SunTzu
“Flank em and spank em”-Sun Tzu
I'm pretty sure Ghandi said that, not SunTzu
*"Transform & roll out"* ~Bruce Lee 😏
If zombies be roamin, I got nukes for trollin
@@dkayflowers79 No I am your father - jackie chan
My biggest problem with the film was the daughter. Literally got people killed to save others where those who were to be saved just die anyway. SICK!
Yes! That was the main issue for me too. I was thinking why is she doing this? Leave her behind!
That couldve been so impactful though.
The scene is missing the realization of the pointlessness. If she acknowledged her role in how things got fucked up, then we would feel that with her, experience it with her. That realization would be tragic and horrifying, but instead it is just empty. This would be reinforced by the weird meta scene when they are breaking into thr vault, the monologue about reliving your failures in a pointless cycle.
Instead, we just get angry at the daughter when we should've been angry WITH her. No money, no friend, no dad, all for nothing.
This movie couldve been something interesting
It will all be explained in the 5 hour Snyder Cut of the film. Then you will find out that the daughter's mom was named Martha.
my biggest problem was how when someone was attacked they seemed to stand around doing nothing as the scene had no use for them
@Erik Kemeey i didnt say she got everyone killed, just that she brought another problem to the table. She was there to save her friend, the same friend who died in the helicopter crash anyway. Instead of flying right out of vegas, they had to go rescue her. Martin was the antagonist. He fucked everyone over on purpose. Yeah, i blame him too. The daughter wasn't supposed to be an antagonist, which is why it is frustrating how she made shit more difficult.
Ive read your other comments and i feel like we saw different movies lol
Also I like how outside the strip it's pure dessert even though Vegas is miles and miles of residential zones
That is maintained and manicured Residential zones... Cut off the water and all the manicured lawns reverts back into deserts.
Zombieland had a perfect balance of comical to serious threat levels in regards to their zombies.
I was so excited about this. But due to awful decisions made by certain characters (quite a few to say the least). It was just ok. The more I watch these videos. It makes me realise how hard filmmaking is.
Same mate, the trailer looked so awesome but it was a whole new story
Hope it also make you appreciate the story narrative in video games. :)
I will say this like a broken record, it starts with the script and making sure that is solid from start to finish. Most of these videos and essays on the problems with the story in say a film, TV show, and Game is basically from the script not being written well or thought out enough to make it consistently enjoyable as well as executed poorly from corporate meddling or lack of creative effort put into making it work in that medium. Which is the case here, the script is absolute trash, makes no sense, and completely throws logic out the window for a cool shot or ripping off Aliens from scenes/lines/character archetypes from it frustratingly shamelessly.
The whole plot is dumb in the first place
I'm sure in Snyder's mind, Batista and his daughter had a strong connection but that didn't come across at all in this. I fast forwarded their little intimate moments cuz they bored me to death.
“It’s not the meat, it’s the heat” was one of the dumbest lines ever written. You mean to tell me that zombies are attracted to human body heat IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEVADA DESERT??
And the worst part about that line is that Snyder HAD to include it in order to justify including the completely pointless Indiana Jones vault traps...
Actually it’s both the heat and the meat. The heat is the reason(other than the smell) why zombies don’t eat each other or dead meat, at least in TWD
@@marypoppins989 If I were him I would've just went with meat
Even though the line of dialogue was VERY clear, let’s assume you’re right...you don’t think the zombie meat would get hot enough being out in the open in the desert? It was hot enough outside to dehydrate a massive horde of them
Pointless indiana jones traps?? It shows how scummy of a character Tanaka is and that he's not to be trusted. As the characters point out that that system is obviously illegal.
High heat doesn’t change a persons core body temperature of 98.6 degrees. Only changes skin temp and that’s after being in extremely high heat for extended periods of time. A zombie outside in high heat will have hot skin and a cold core and would look different to other zombies. If the zombies are attracted to heat that means they see with thermal radiation and a zombie would look different than a human under thermal radiation.
"If the characters are bored, how do you think the audience is doing?"
That's exactly why Zack sucks as a storyteller. His characters are passive protagonists, which may be okay in normal action movies, but in superhero and zombie action movies you NEED active protagonists, or there's no real reason to watch and follow these characters on their journey. If you read his Justice League sequel story treatments you'll see they're full of this- the majority of them just read like a bunch of "then this happened, then this happened, then this happened" without much cohesion at all.
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This is the movie that convinced me to never watch anything with Snyder's name involved, ever again.
@Rory Myra brother, there are so many illogical and downright stupid stuff in this movie that it's impossible to talk about them all in a comment. Someone could easily make a review video watching the entire movie from start to finish, commenting on every single scene, pointing out the stupidity.
@@KroVeyI hope this video at least can make you change your mind about Zack's work.
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The Vasquez Imitator girl also, it should be mentioned, raises her hand in the scene when they ask 'Who's never killed a zombie?" So this would be her first time. Uh...
There can easily be an explanation for that. Perhaps she had a tough up bringing where she had to learn to fight. Perhaps she was in the military. There are plenty of explanations that the viewer can simply imagine and it doesn't need to be spoon fed
@@4NerdsNetwork that's the problem here. That's too many varied assumptions. It's good if you can make the audience assume certain things that you want them to as a writer by only showing small things. Good writing needs the writer to have foresight on what the audience will assume. Here, we can assume whatever we want, whether good or bad. To me, it feels like she's not badass enough, seems like fake, which goes counter to her role. Now, if you're then going to say, what if the writer wants her to be a fake badass? Then that just proves the point that the writer is not in control of the assumption of the audience. This is not high concept like Tenet. This is just absolutely basic characterization.
@@4NerdsNetwork nah
@@4NerdsNetwork Except there is absolutely no basis to make that assumption.
I watched it by myself. I was thinking to myself that she went from never killing a zombie to getting 3 or 4 nukes.
Should’ve stuck to it actually being a heist in a zombie movie...
Yeah, I really liked the movie (didn’t love and don’t see it as a masterpiece) and really love Zack as a person and filmmaker but I really wish it just stuck to being a heist movie set in a zombie infested Vegas
@@SpiderBatFan Yeah lol I was super unimpressed and started jumping forward in the movie. Three quarters of the way in I'm like "WTF did this piece of shinola turn into??" 😂
I enjoyed it, but not because I thought it was good. I enjoyed it because it was so stupid that I couldn't help but laugh my ass off.
@@SpiderBatFan For real. The premise sounds really cool, but unfortunately that doesn't make it good. What matters is execution.
@@SpiderBatFan you an Ayn Rand fan? Or an Objectivist?
3:17 that lead escorting humvee is such a failure, you'd think it would intercept the on coming car to protect the militarized cargo.
Not to mention not stopping the zombie plague as the first responders.
I mean... what were people expecting? Snyder tried making movies he wrote himself before... those were his worst productions.
edit: I don't understand digital password storage. Just write them down on a note. Ain't anybody hacking that shit.
Sounds like classic Snyder: Things happening because he thinks that it will be cool, not because it actually makes sense.
You could say' Things he'd seen in other movies that he thought were cool' and laid out a premise to incorporate as many of them as possible into one movie....LOL
@@kevinodoherty5760 Snyder cut is just his attempt at LOTR
Sounds like Sucker Punch
@Silence Whench I do not wish to be ho!ny anymore Its almost Aliens LOL! ua-cam.com/video/KKQiJuXN07E/v-deo.html
Can't stand snyder
The film should just be titled Wasted Potential: The Movie.
😂 Emoji movie got that title
Is that mortal Kombat 11 reference
@@davidthirugnanakumar7888 wut? How did a movie about emojis even have any potential? Thats a shitty movie with a shittier concept.
@@adityaunnava4304 you are very correct
so..you mean a typical zack snyder movie?
And the toxic Snyder fans defending this movie with their life doesn’t help either… listen I loved the Snyder Cut, but this just didn’t cut the quality of his other movies.
This whole thing just sounds like a game of D&D with a railroading DM.
thief: "I want to sneak around the bandit camp"
DM: "You immediately step on a conveniently placed branch, snapping it and alerting every bandit in the camp, roll for initiative."
thief: "But I didn't even roll for stealth-"
DM: "You don't need to, roll for initiative."
When you think about it: The whole zombie setup here is a vampire trope: The few intelligent ones lead a horde of dump "ghouls/zombies" and you can only become a real "zombie/vampire" when you get "bitten/blood" from the alpha. Even the hybernation without a food source is an vampire trope.
These zombies are more like the evolving Romero ghouls; as seen in Land of the Dead.
Its just shitty I am legend
Thank you for hitting the nail on the head. I couldn't put my finger on it.
@@cactusmalone it was still alot better
Pretty sure that Dracula's "brides" still retained their human intelligence. They were just completely insane and liked to seduce and feed on unsuspecting men and kill babies. Renfield almost fits the "I wanna be a real vampire" concept but he turns his back on Dracula after realizing that this is actually a horrible idea. In fact, Dracula himself, while able to skillfully manipulate pretty much anyone and having insane levels of financial and military savvy, was not really that intelligent and Van Helsing outright compared him to a child: he threw a giant tantrum when his half-baked plan to invade England failed miserably, got irrationally angry at Harker for stupid reasons, outright refused to even consider the inhumanity and moral ramifications of his actions and was motivated only by the instant gratification of feeding.
Look. The thing that bugged me the most, besides the random robot zombies, was how Chambers was such a badass. Not because she is female, duh. When we are introduced to her, she herself says she has never shot a zombie before. The moment she is trapped in a room surrounded by zombies, she goes John Wick on their ass and kills more zombies than anyone else in the movie does. Just don't have her tell me she's a newbie! That's it
And then everyone just stands 6m away and watch her like statues instead of helping, that scene was so dumb.
Perhaps Zach Snyder's personal notes on that character read:
"zombie-killer savant" (hidden talent)
Just because she can kill zombies doesn't mean that's a plot hole. There are plenty of possible explanations. For example, she could've had a very rough up bringing and therefore had to learn to fight in general. Or she was in the military. Or literally hundreds of other possible explanations. This complaint feels less than a plot hole but rather a ridiculous nit pick
@@4NerdsNetwork that can be said with other characters too but why cant they do the same feat?
@@padmanabhanvaidyanathan7182 yeah they absolutely could have saved lol
that hallway scene where the daughter shoots the alpha zombies is so bad she fires off 30 shots without reloading and even if she did somehow reload offscreen she was only given a single spare magazine giving her 15 to 24 shots at best
One thing i can't get out of my head is, how did the army manage to put a whole barrier around Las Vegas and not have loose zombies running about to other cities?
This channel has been a blessing and a curse for me. The knowledge gained here taught me how to critically analyze a story, at the cost of my “cinematic innocence”. Now I can see the flaws everywhere lol.
Lmao me too filmento inadvertently set my bar for movies too high I can't enjoy normal blockbusters anymore without analyzing the mistakes and such
same the movies i used to think were the best are not anywhere near being good lol
I personally have a switch where I can watch a movie and just enjoy it but can also flip the switch and be like "wait why are they talking now? isn't the bomb about to drop? Oh it's because she dies right after"
Its a skill that you must master
The solution to this I think is to go into movies with reasonable expectations. If a movie is setting itself up to be a cinematic masterpiece in it's advertising campaigns then its fair to judge it under that level of scrutiny right away. A movie like this however I feel the advertising was very honest with the type of movie to expect, so you can let your guard down and just enjoy the glam of it all. It's fun to deconstruct things afterwards but I do think that critical media analysis often does this disservice to people where it implies that all movies should be judged by the same rigorous standards.
Another thing to remember is that these sort of movie deconstruction channels/review channels often do multiple watches of movies and scenes in order to fine tune their criticisms. Which is great if your looking for a very in depth review to understand if its something you would be interested in but also causes the issue where it can miss what the movie actually feels like to watch on your first run through. Sure there may be hints to some underlying problems with the movies stylistic/narrative choices on first watch, but often its only under close examination that they become major flaws rather than the slight speed-bumps most people will feel.
I guess my point is when your looking to understand why certain movies have the 5 star feeling of perfection then this level of scrutiny really helps fine tune that understanding, which is the blessing your talking about. The curse however is when we apply the same principles to movies that are not designed to be perceived that way, especially when we do it during our first watching experience. I think to maximize the blessing part of critical analysis we must shut it off during the watching experience and turn it back on afterward to digest our experience of a movie.
Anyways I thought it was an interesting topic to discuss because I was kinda iffy about this Filmento video because I enjoyed Army of the Dead and looking back on the criticisms in this video, while mostly being technically correct, they didn't really feel like they apply to the kind of movie I felt like it was trying to be. There are always going to be movies so bad in design that they make it impossible to shut the critical part of your brain off, but I think that there is a particular issue with consuming too much critical media content(either positive or negative) that makes it easier to get stuck in overly analytical thinking while trying to watch anything.
Thanks for listening to my Ted talk! Hope y'all are doing well during the pandemic
@@JesuslsASamurai Very true. I don’t go watch pickup games at the park and expect an NBA-level performance. I guess that I looked at it differently because (generally speaking ofc) these movies are multi-million dollar products, so I go in expecting that NBA experience.
If we keep going with this basketball analogy, movies like this are like the Globetrotters; purely entertainment to take at face value.
The only thing I could think of when I was watching this movie was "Hey. Why are these guys thinking in troupes instead of thinking in character?".
EDIT: The daughter is the worst character in the movie. Why is she such a Skyrim NPC????!!
She literally runs off after hearing a nuke is coming in an hour, because she magically knows where to find the person she is looking for, despite the fact that finding, retrieving, and then returning in the given time frame is literally impossible
@@ThunderbolttheFox the movie said all victims are brought to the same place. coyote also said it isnt impossible for someone who got left behind to turn up alive. she left a guy and 3 days later he made it back. if you gonna complain, at least pay attention.
having enough time or not is irrelevant for her. she had to try no matter the outcome, and she is right to an extent. it is better to try and fail than not try at all. besides, it isnt uncommon for one to operate based more on faith/belief. especially given her background who knew the pain of losing a parent. the victim's kids had no parent left.
@@ThunderbolttheFox yea,
i was like "why the fuck did you go alone outside with all the zombies"
@@ThunderbolttheFox My favorite thing is that even if she got the idiot to her children, they'd die anyway because of the nuke's shockwave/radiation.
"I'm doing it for you, so you could live a happy and good life. I'm taking the risk of being killed in this dangerous mission just for you. Therefore you're coming with me"
It's like media w/ covid;
"should I care?, should I not care?"
I love how obvious it is that the zombies are members of the Cats Broadway cast on furlough. They are doing shoulder rolls and body stretches whenever they are on screen.
OMG that is hilarious. I noticed the posing but did not make the connection.
@@selalewow I mean, they need the work, so good on them. Maybe the in world explanation is that Cirque de Soleil was in LV abs for Zombified. Or it’s a new type of Jazzy Zombie.
Was just gonna say this lol. You can tell by the way they jump and move with the arms perfectly curved behind them that they've had some choreo training
@@Indomitable_Alykat it’s like a modern dance troupe doing group warm up exercises as jungle animals.
"This place is really bad!"
Oh wait no it isn't
"The stakes are really high!"
Oh wait no they're not.
11:50 All the tonal shifts flipflopped, depending on if their was a woman fighting for her life alone. Alone the zombies weren't a problem. *Because "Gotta show Almost ALL women are smart and strong,* and Men are mostly greedy, clueless, traitorous, rapists and useless pushovers. Who in this movie won't avenge you after they know someone got you killed on purpose." Mandate. For every movie since 2005 or 2010. I'm not sure when this bs agenda started. But it's getting old. Maybe that's a video filmento should do. This Mary sue/Mary doesn't need a man to save the day mandate/wahmandate? Ruining movie after movie.
@@the_gratefulgamer i disagree
It really does feel like they wanted to do so much that they had no time to let the better elements shine. I liked the idea of the "smart" zombie but it could have been better if they took the time to explore it more... Maybe they could have some control over the regular zombies having them move like military patrols so they can sneak in using this pattern (this could give the leader backstory of being in the military at area 51 before his change to patient zero), forced cannibalism because they don't get fresh meat much and it seems the leader likes to hoard/turn their food or at least establish what they survive on, and give them more motivation escape and spread out! (Like lack of food!) Then it could go from a "simple heist" to oh shit we have come across their plans to leave and we have to keep them here till the nuke drops! Spoiler Alert! This would make their deaths mean so much more making them feel more like heroes!
Zack Snyder: heres the obligatory scene
Edgar Wright: scenes can be obligatory?
I was expecting a lot from this movie, I even tried to ignore the 'daughter coming along part'. But when that badass girl jumped from the window and they didn't help her on top pf that she just sat there and cried instead of saying HE IS THE TRAITOR, I closed the movie right away.
That’s exactly when I turned it off.
I was like "hey man don't just stand there. There is still time to save her by shooting the zombies surrounding her but you better hurry. Why the fuck are you just standing there!? There's still ti-- and it's too late."
yup its just what happens when everyone starts treating snyder like he is gonna save the dceu but we all know thats not happening because they cast a black guy to play superman
they helped by shooting some zombies, but they didnt get close enough because she was swarmed pretty quickly. she is as good as dead at that point. why would she say anything along the lines of "he is the traitor"? she didnt know enough to call him a traitor. all she knows of him is that he is suspicious af, but not "a traitor". but sure, lets have her discuss the reasons why he is a traitor and ignore THE ZOMBIES TRYING TO BITE HER ASS!
@@amazo88 You literally said she was swarmed pretty quickly and was dead anyway, then proceed to say why would she call out the traitor instead of saving her own ass. Surely she realized she was dead and could say whatever the f she wanted. Also, she did know he was the traitor, he locked her out when there was plenty of time to let her through. Don’t make excuses for bad writing and pacing.
Not going to lie the story of that mother in the montage looking for her daughter to have them both die feet from safety was the most impactful part of the movie.... Also turned out to be a better story then the rest of the movie.
Even that was dumb, they were like "lets stay here for no reason so we can die! I know we can easily get out before they drop the containers but let's just not do that."
@@onelusciouslad7841 they were surrounded by zombies watch it again.
@@bricktop9486 and they are also literally soldiers in front of them who can make cover fires so they can escape .
@@random_user_profile The zombies surrounded her very quick, there was no time, also there were zombies directly behind her so they couldnt fire.
The kid could've got to safety but the mother called her back to die with her, that was when I first realised this movie would be dumb af
Edit: ok maybe not called her back but she sure as hell didn't try to stop her from coming back, no she took her daughter in with open arms to die
The prequel that came out THE SAME YEAR is about a character everybody forgot about and the movie was just as forgettable.
He was a lot of peoples favorite character
Man, I just cant stop watching your videos. Great work man keep it going!
When it flashed “me still trying to figure out if she’s his real daughter” that was the exact thought I was having in that moment. Instead of feeling the emotion the scene was trying to convey, I was thinking “..soooo, he’s her step dad?”
Yup I wondered that the entire movie. Up to that point I wasn't even sure if that was her mom tbh, I had no clue what the relationship between the three of them was, even though it was clearly supposed to be obvious to me by the way the movie framed it.
@@CaeruleanWren Agreed. It was so poorly executed. Even the initial scene where he kills her and his daughter(?) comes out and screams and it cuts away. I had to rewind because I was genuinely confused and thought I missed something.
She goes from calling him dad to dad but with disdain/anger to Scott and saying "I'm not angry you killed mom". It was so confusing.
I can't believe they digitally removed the actor who initially played the helicopter pilot and inserted Tog Notaro instead and that was done almost flawlessly yet we never know what happens to the other girl, the mother, in the helicopter. It was so bad.
@@TheTransitmtl the special effects team knew what they were doing, apparently.
But just as apparently, the editing team had no fucking clue what was going on (which was doubtfully their own fault). Thats what impressed me too, that the digital replacement was so good but everything else was such a mess
i wondered that too, she doesnt look like him at all
Nobody talks about the hilariously impossible logistics required to wall off a city with shipping containers within a certain period of time to prevent the spread. It would never happen and is so abhorrently illogical.
Plus if they could wall off Las Vegas, why couldn't they put machine guns on the walls and slowly but surely whittle down the zombie army?
@@user-uy1rg8td1v and also its easy to eliminate all the zombies without using nukes because those zombies are literally caged up like... remember those guys in dawn of the dead shooting zombies for fun.. it should be like that.
@my spirit digimon is rareraremon true, but walling off las vegas with shipping containers to contain a zombie outbreak is a special degree of silly lol
@my spirit digimon is rareraremon Not really. There are tons of zombie movies that make sense. Almost none of them make as little sense as this one.
@my spirit digimon is rareraremon Yes, I think so indeed. And it's quite cool actually.
Zack so pissed that he kicked out from DCEU canon, he make his own canon cinematic universe at Netflix
Army dudes fully geared and loaded, die to zombies.
Civy who is just there to save parents takes out a whole pack in a dark building with pin point head shots rapidly, survives zombies.
Hmm...
I was more hyped for this video than the movie.
Dang, the trailer for this video came out early February?
And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit of ZACK SNYDER will not be forgiven. Amen! 💀⚰
“Eh, I guess we’ll air it.” -ScyFy
It's just SyFy
Wow
Just reminded me of that Daz3D Army-made werewolf movie they aired!
XD
@@CayeDaws my bad. When they rebranded and began airing WWE I kinda forgot they existed. I suppose I still hold onto the MST3K days...
Who else but ScyFy
Well done, especially the point on style over substance and lack of character motivations. Its one of those movies that I know somethings off but it's hard to put my finger on what. This video cleared some of that up for me, so thanks!
@Erik Kemeey Only Scott had decent motivation, and to some extent his daughter.
Not gonna lie, I kinda half expected the zombie in that scene in the first minute to shout "Martha!"
@@DerezzedMan People don't care about BvS.
@@DerezzedMan never gets old.
@@whosaidthat84 they are synder fanboys
Good one. The classic 'Martha' insult on literally anything Zack Snyder creates.
Losers.
@@safwanmustafiz3106 I love BvS (UE) but I understand that not much care about BvS.
I would love that everyone likes it, but I know it won't be the case in the end^^
While watching this, there was this taste of "something" that I didn't like. Turns out, it's the story
You mean you didn't like the multiple massive gaping plotholes or the many, many plot elements that destroyed all stakes?? Ah jeez
HOW DARE YOU! Zack Snyder is perfect when it comes to making movies! You just wanted it to be another Marvel movie!
@@Irrelevant402 the fuck are you smokin? Army of the dead aint even a marvel movie and snyder isn't just a super hero film director...
@@retna1x363 The man was using irony, that's it
@@retna1x363 This is a case of a mandatory r/whosh.
Mr FIlmento, your ad breaks are the only ones I actually wanna watch, genuinely funny. Saludos a Krakozhia
Honestly i don't know why everyone thinks Snyder is such a great director. Yes he can nail a beautiful shot, but he has no idea how to put a good movie together, and has a very real tendency to overuse his tricks. Seems he's moved on from slow-motion action hero 90% of a movie runtime to shallow tricks with depth.
I dont think snyder is on the same level as nolan, fincher, tarantino... He always screw up characters developement and basic story telling. As a film student myself, I wasnt able to invest my time and my brain with his story telling. But I do enjoy gore and R rated films. But Snyder will never be a respectable director not until he learn from his mistakes.
"Hey, let's set a zombie apocalypse in one of the most colourful cities on earth, but have it take place a few years after the outbreak so everything is dry and brown and not visually appealing at all"
-Zack Snyder
pretty sick zombie/alien tiger tho
@@Grrtt4570 I wonder who will eat who if this tiger meet the zombie deer from Train to Busan.
And even all that is just blurred out anyways.
Truueeee, I was annoyed they didn't play with it being set in Vegas at all, but now that you mention that, they didn't even get the look of the city, there was no point to it being set in Vegas, at all.
You mean like Fallout New Vegas? 🤔
theres also the fact that everybody just dies, they lost the money, they lost the head, and the film ends with the felling of: holy shit, very cool, but for what? nothing changes.
True. They could have just nuked the place at the beginning of the film. It was all pointless.
I always hate when movies put characters through a bunch of hardship only to nullify it all later in the film. Really makes me feel like I wasted my time.
@@nerychristian Yeah, even when the last guy who bought a private jet who later probably becomes a zombie to infect more places is useless since other places seem to have an invasion due to that one streamer thing they showed earlier
(plus that whole private jet scene was so frustrating, especially since they make it seem like a really cool scene to fish out a gasp from the audience)
P
i disagree with that last part "nothing changes"
well at the ending clearly the last guy was infected and alive and in an actual city which can cause the zombie spread even more.soooo it gets worse therefore changes occur not for good but bad.
I think I read somewhere that Snyder is better adapting already established IPs or someone's scripts rather than making his own. Some directors just aren't meant to create from zero
It's pretty well a fact by now.
Every movie he has full creative control of just turns into a mess.
The ones he has a blueprint and story to follow is pretty great.
I think the issue is Snyder has nothing but contempt for filmmaking. He thinks he is some sort of movie genius, and the things that 'Old Hollywood' believes in (obligatory things like pacing, writing, motivation, setups and payoffs, suspension of disbelief, etc.) are things to scorn, not use.
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE Wow, that's a great quote. Thanks for that.
15:30 It's basically like Rick & Morty "You son of a bitch, I'm in !"
I've being saying it for years: Zack Snyder is a great cinematographer, he makes amazing, stylish compositions. But unfortunately, he's a terrible writer and director and does not know how to make those scenes flow together.
He's not a great cinematographer. This was his first movie handling cinematography on his own (without Larry fong) and it looked like shit.
The man is an incompetent held up by big studio budgets, characters people like, and working with more competent people then him.
That goes without saying. Only DC fanboys who like the DC movies because Snyder adds stuff from the comics only fanboys understand (but doesn't make sense in the story) continue to watch his movies. Somehow, DC fanboys can't separate their beloved DC characters from the man who makes the (bad) movies .
About his cinematography skills. His visual style reminds me of commercials. There are hundreds of directors doing commercials who can do what he does. Using classic works of art (painting and literature) as reference for scenes/framing is first year of film school.
I think he only got in Hollywood through connections.
@@deeptracy23 His wife produces all his movies.
😏😏Dude just take a deep breath and say "oosa"...
The edit and zombie running at 2:20 was classic!!! had me rolling
Every film he made were remake and adaptation of books/comics.
This was the first movie he had to build from the ground up and look how it goes.
zack snyder is basically michael bay but instead of explosions it's slow motion.
Finally. We all know that Zack Snyder isn't the millennials answer to Michael Bay.
Bay's schlocks were better than Snyder's pretentiousness in his movies, that got lost due to over indulging with his own gravy.
@@MiXVoy Idk man at least Snyder can always say he made Watchmen, when has Bay ever made a good movie?
@@TheEmoSpider I've heard that "The Rock" is a pretty good movie
@@TheEmoSpider The island, bad boys etc, Bay made good movies before he got so high on himself and stopped having people around to tell him "NO". Same problem that happened to George Lucas and now Snyder.
@@joshmerchant8737 I read somewhere that he is fully aware that people dislike his Transformers movie and plans to retire after the 3rd or 4th one to focus on independent projects but the studio says no
I just watched this last night after hearing everywhere that it was really good.
I feel like casting and production quality was great but the writing was alot of garbage.
So much unnecessary crap that pulled the movie down.
I mean the plot device to create tension with the idiot daughter was so unimportant that even at the end after the crash they were the only character who wasn't even shown dead or alive.
They were totally irrelevant and yet a big chunk of the plot somehow revolved around them.
*she was such an irrelevant character.
The plot is a terrible and mediocre copy of Aliens.
@@Jose-se9pu Thank you! I thought I was the only one to see this cheeky similarity and a bad one in contrast to the still awesomeness of Aliens even today. This just solidifies my big problem with Snyder. He is incapable of being creatively inventive when he has full control over a production/project.
I'm all for a action movie with giant plot holes *Coughpacificrimcough* but this was just like Filmento said all spectacle. The movie lost me off the hop with the Dudes got reddit cred line.
@@theprowler18 He took inspiration from a great movie to make another great movie. Snyder hasn’t missed once.
this literally has to be the best film channel of all time and one of the best general channels of all time
Lmao the “scary zombie” at 2:16
Filmento, you always add the perfect memes to your vids 😂
I couldn't stop laughing when giant Dave Bautista has to kill his zombie wife, then cries. All I could think about was "Ride wife, life good."
wow you are so cool
I kept laughing too. The guy can’t act.
@@yakiralovesall Idk. He's decent given the right circumstances. He was good in Blade Runner for instance.
I think he performed well in the scene, but I think the slow mo on him crying really didn’t help it, same with when his daughter cried and screamed, I couldn’t help but laugh after that
@@shutthefuckup9651 never seen it but watching him cry in slow mo while knifing his zombie wife did not help. The entire scene wasn’t good imo.
Just remember that this director made *Dawn of the Dead* in *2004.*
_Even the 2004 version is just better than this movie._
Yeah I much prefer Snyder's Dawn of the Dead and 300 over his superhero stuff.
James Gunn is credited as writing Dawn of the Dead 2004.
@@shan4680
Yeah, I bet even James Gunn was telling him to tone it down! Is it even a Mystery as to why the two haven't working on a film together after Dawn?
@@shan4680His Watchmen was good too!
When Snyder works with someone else's structured story he makes good movie because as a director he is not very visionary or organised.
So He is good at recreating scene from graphic novel cause it's all already laid out and all he is doing is translating for the screen.
But when you give him freedom you get crap like this!
Because snyder did not write the dawn of the dead remake
11:41 "now those zombies too are so harmless that a civilian girl with a pistol can take down a full pack them" us weebs have a term for that called plot armour
Well, that conclusion made me subscribe. All those movies piss me off so bad, and you nailed the common reason why they do.
There is no way for all the characters (including the money) would fit inside the helicopter. The pilot should know that when she first saw it!
They would need a chinook for the job
I said the same thing you are right
Like in triple frontier. A helicopter thrice the size couldn't carry 150 million, and they had to dump it
You fool! Haven't you considered that due to shit writing there was at no point any expectation in which they'd all make it, and it was guaranteed they weren't moving a safes worth of money, so none of the characters, not even the pilot, are given enough dept to critically analyse their one escape route.
I mean straight off the bat a dusty ass helo abandoned on a zombie ridden casino? I'm almost 200% certain that thing ain't flying. Any fuel in is has evaporated. It sucks how great this movie could have been if only the characters had a brain and the writing had, well any talent at all
Im a few mins into the video now and it's the convoy scene at the start. I completely forgot about that scene somehow. Like let's talk about these soldiers they've got all the modern tags and equipment but they're seemingly trained by African child soldiers. The writing desperately needs these soldiers to not have a clue what's going on, to not be briefed prior to transport, to not have contingencies in place for crashes of attacks or apparently absolutely anything, and ontop of that the lead car not only didn't see the oncoming vehicle, but their armoured humvee completely failed to stop it which then triggered, for some purely illogical reason, the entire convoy to go wheels up. None of it makes sense it almost hurts to watch
The saddest part is that Snyder did so much of this movie himself that it's clearly his issues showing through, but where were the No-people that could have said, "Snyder, this might be stupid..."? Sometimes people need to be challenged to grow, and it looks like Snyder is bored.
Cough... George Lucas... Cough...
Nah, he’s just full of himself now.. ppl sould stop praising him that much
This film feels like s desperate overcorrection after dealing with (presumably ) all of the meddling WB did with his DCEU films. Not that those films would have been any better if left to his own devices, as evidenced by this film. But he literally did everything on this film, at least credit wise. Even the best filmmakers today utilize other highly skilled people to handle many aspects of their films because they know working with smart, talented people elevates their own talent.
They'd probably get fired if they do oppose him
@@tastyneck 11:50 All the tonal shifts flipflopped, depending on if their was a woman fighting for her life alone. Alone the zombies weren't a problem. *Because "Gotta show Almost ALL women are smart and strong,* and Men are mostly greedy, clueless, traitorous, rapists and useless pushovers. Who in this movie won't avenge you after they know someone got you killed on purpose." Mandate. For every movie since 2005 or 2010. I'm not sure when this bs agenda started. But it's getting old. Maybe that's a vid filmento should do. This Mary sue/Mary doesn't need a man to save the day mandate/wahmandate? Ruining movie after movie.
This was a really helpful video! I'm trying to write a science fiction story and this gave me some really good tips! Much appreciated!
Looking at this movie is like seeing through Batista's character's eyes in Stuber.
I found the inconsistencies and confused character motivation so distracting it felt like I was watching Cinema Sins, but the narrator was me.
Usually I can zone out in a film and only afterward when plot holes are pointed out I'd realise. In the case of this movie all I could think was "how did this get made when things don't make sense?!"
That's the problem. If the movie can't even take you on a five minute journey without making you ask "What? But why?", then it's a shitty movie.
What you said at 8:35 reminded me of a line from the video game Alan Wake, spoken by the protagonist Alan Wake himself. "A story is not a machine that does what you tell it. A story is a beast with a life of its own. You can create it, shape it, but as the story grows, it starts wanting things of its own. Change one thing, and you set off a chain reaction of events that spreads through the whole thing. The characters have to be true to themselves. The events need to follow a logic that fits the story. A single flaw and the story is gone. The magic dies. The story dies. ..."
I just do this as a hobby, but I can see how writers become addicted to the feeling of revelation that comes with breaking a story outline. If you plug in your story parameters (time, place, characters, and an inciting incident), and then honour each of those, the story and characters start TELLING YOU what happens next. I never realised what artists were saying when they talked about work "flowing through them" and writers being "surprised" by their own stories. But I've sat in shocked disbelief when I realised that: OF COURSE that character was actually about to betray that other person, and how heart-breaking it was that this character I thought I knew better had let me down, and yet how it made sense with what we've been told about them, and therefore powerful for the narrative. Something happened that I didn't expect in a story I WAS WRITING. Once that story beat dawned me and was written on the outline card it was hard for me to see it any other way, because now I had stakes -- something happened that I as a "viewer" was shocked to see, which feels compelling. But also a problem to solve, because this didn't fit with my end-point of the story. Turns out solving the problem gave me the entire 3rd act which before had been totally a mystery to me. You really can't force this stuff.
I mean a "single flaw" doesn't mean that the story is gone automatically, not at all. A story can have a couple of flaws and it still be very compelling and fantastic as long as the good outweighs the bad entirely. The Story is FAR from losing it's "magic" or "dies" and being "gone" in ANY way just because a story has a few flaws. That's nonsense and we all know it.
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I mean, it’s a phrase from a videogame
@@juangomez1704 I know but it’s still invalid in that one aspect he said regardless of where it’s come from. I’m not saying the phrase came from him, but there are still an issue with it.
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Yeah yeah, I understand your point and I agree. I just wanted to make it clear that they put it like that because (if I’m not mistaken) the character of the videogame is an author and therefore he is presented to be extremely meticulous. Just wanted to make it clear we’re the phrase is coming from.
marvelous talk and breakdown as always
The fact that there is only a container wall with almost no military presence to gaurd it is kinda stupid aswell.