WHICH STUMP GRINDER WORKS BEST?? 15 STUMPS! 3 DIFFERENT GRINDERS! 3 Compact Tractors!
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2023
- Friend, Ben, has lost many Ash trees and now has 15 stumps that need to be removed. Tractor Time with Tim brings the John Deere 2038R and 3046R, and the Ventrac all equipped with stump grinders to get the job done.
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I have ground about 300 stumps with my PTO driven stump grinder at my place over the past 3 years. Early on, I realized that it was rough on my back and neck with all the turning around to see what I was doing. I strategically installed a camera to minimize the body twisting. Still have to turn but not nearly as often. I do take the pin out on mine!😊
Most optimal position … is in the shade. Almost spit out my coffee. Have a great day everyone and appreciate the great videos…
I follow a lot of popular channels that seem to be running out of good content so we get stuck with the same ol' stuff on every episode. There is only so many times I can watch a splitter split wood, burning brush, etc LOL. YOU still have the best content on UA-cam, always interesting, never boring and just the right length videos. Keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words! We try to keep changing things up. It is not easy.
I’ve lost a lot of ash trees as well and its sad to see them go. I’ve been grinding the stumps with my 3 point hitch grinder on and off for a few years. Funny how the word gets around and it seems neighbors have discovered they have stumps to be ground as well ;-) It’s cool that you showcase the different grinders and options all at once and it’s fun to see a “team” project. Blessings.
Same Ash tree issues in Ohio. After digging out half dozen stumps so far, I can say those ash trees have one tough root system! The stump grinders did a fantastic job, less mess than digging too.
Of the 3 grinders I like the swing armed one the best
“Make the best with what ya got” most certainly applies here! Seems to me the right “Stump Grinder” could have worked out a nice deal for him but then we wouldn’t have this fun video😊
We quoted 1/2 the best quote he got from professional stump grinder.
Whistlin Diesel ........😂
Fantastic video like always . LET GET STARTED
I like the swing arm model. I’d say it’s the easiest to use and and not as hard on the tractor.
Just my thought. Have a great day.
Great video Tim I have no use for one but man I want one it looks so useful especially after seeing it run on the 3R I know it would be a great match on mine
I have a Kubota 2601 and have had the same grinder Tim was using. I dont remember the exact model number but its the same one. I have been cutting trails in northern Wisconsin the last 5-6 years and using it to take out the stumps. I generally dont cut down big maple or oak trees as I try any cut the trails around them. What have done with this grinder is take out several hundred stumps ranging from a couple of inches to around 2 feet. These are mostly pulp wood trees so fairly soft but man this thing has been awesome! Its one of my Favorite things I own lol. At the end of the day I would not use this for large hard wood stumps but medium to small stumps the thing is great. Highly recommend and Tim I do not take the pin out myself and have had no issues with breaking anything.
Seeing you on your 3R has me missing my 33R. It was so much smoother running and the hydraulics are so much smoother than on my 2025R.
what a beautiful area. thanks for sharing.:) *Love your 3R.:)
Very nice project tim and kristie💪💪
We have the ash borer here in Connecticut too. I’m having my 29 acres timber harvested this fall.
property has a lot of nice trees...
I like the way that you can usually quote Bible verses that have words or wording pertaining to the job you are doing.
I enjoyed your videos. I have a BX2680 with a Baumalight 1P24 I very much enjoyed it we have removing 30 plus stump from 2' to 8' Two warnings: leaving the pen has destroyed 1 PTO and slip clutch and there is no known setting for a less then 40 hp for the slip clutch so I guessed wrong at the setting and destroyed the PTO drive cost is in the line of $6,000 Ps I have only used 3 set of teeth to this point. waiting for tractor to be repaired and i will be grinding more stumps
Very cool video!
Watching a video is admittedly far different to actually sitting in the tractor seat, but Tim I think I liked what I saw with your chipper the best. It appears the least complicated and the most stable. It stayed on a straight path while the others jumped around.That is the one I would like to try. I suppose pulling the pin would create a reduced more constant cutting pressure produced by the weight of just the cutter assembly rather the entire weight of the tractor and might prevent stalling the PTO as often? I paid someone to grind 12 ash and pine stumps that accumulated over 5 years with a track driven portable stand alone grinder...he charged about $800 which I thought was fair based upon his equipment investment and time. Watching him was an enjoyable afternoon. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video, you are living the tractor dream. BTW your cameraman wife is talented and a trouper!
Fact: You wont get hardly any grass to grow where wood chips and and saw dust pile up, it robs the nitrogen out of the soil as it decays , grass greatly struggles and weeds prevail! Professionally we remove most all the chips and replace with good top soil to get the ground area to blend in with the grass the fastest. Same with forestry mulching - unless you take away the mulch all you’ll get is weeds, especially for food plots.
Discussed in the video. When mixed with enough soil as we did, we have had good experience.
That's what I do, especially on nicer yards. Usually a half-3/4 a yard is all the fresh topsoil needed. I also don't like leaving the chips level, then you get a sinkhole.
Have a blessed day.
On these grinders most people just use the end cutting teeth around the wheel..but you can cut so much faster and efficient using the side cutters on the wheel..
Great comparison between the 3 stump grinders. That's too bad about the ash trees gradually dying.
A leaf blower can come in real handy to blow away the chips so you can find where things are again after they get covered up from grinding a while. That could be an interesting add on function to some stump grinders although it may make the cleanup more difficult by spreading the chips out more. You could probably get away with an electric motor powered blower VS PTO powered to save on cost.
I'm really considering the smaller grinder for my 2038 , not sure how stable it would be on uneven ground though.
what a grinding episode, way to put your nose into the grind. it grinds my gears whenever, I see stomps left to rot. (puns intended)
Pretty cool stimp grinders 😂
Is that another of Tim's new toys arriving, at 10:10? 😉
I think a stump grinder would make the perfect partner for my wood chipper.
Yes, would be a good way to handle it with your tractor. Do the entire job!
Interesting how different a tractor does grinding stumps. Right now, we are demoing a Diamond mowers reflex grinder on a cat 262d and she rips! In about 7-10 minutes a 15" ash stump is gone. Which is a lot faster than the sc30tx vermeer we rent, around 30-45 minutes for a comparable stump. The only downside I have to say is the loader arms flex a little too much for my liking. I would like to try the swing out version.
HP is important for grinding. This episode illustrated that to me more than I expected. The 1P24 directly behind 3046R is MUCH more effective than when behind my smaller tractors. ....I'm sure the same is true when stepping up to 75-100hp. Of course, the grinder has to 'grow' with the input HP.
I kept leaving my hinge pin in on my baumalight with my 3033r it worked better until it lead to a rapid disassembly of the pto splines on the cutting wheel and junked the pto shaft.
Just in time, have watched about 50 stump grinding videos this week trying to decide on 1p24 or the WM competitor. Your link seems to have a good price and will probably shop there
I’m impressed with it. I just keep pushing it harder and harder. Pretty rough on it in this episode!
The Woodland Mills is certainly heavier built, but also has greater capability as the stand holders don't hang down as far and in the way like they are with the Baughmalight. I looked at both grinders very very hard before making a decision. Absolutely awesome company support, as well.
@@groundcontrol2795 I'm on the fence. A lot of videos promoting both. The one factor holding them back is made in China...
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@@dubworth thanks very much. I know you will be satisfied. Great grinder for the price!
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Tim, great content as usual. I've got about 150 stumps I need to remove. Wondering what is the quickest way for removal between a 3pt grinder excavator or dozer?
As a Tractor Tim with Tim fan who purchased and uses a 3-point 24” stump grinder with my little John Deere 1025R tractor, I’ll take a stab at your question.
150 stumps is a lot of stumps. That’s a very big project, and beyond the project size intended for these little, consumer grade units in my opinion.
My wife and I work as a team. I’m on the tractor as she is my spotter, directing me with hand signals. Every couple of passes with the stump grinder she clears the area with a rake and battery leaf blower. If we don’t do this raking and blowing we lose sight of the stump in the debris pile, only to discover during grass planting we need to do more stump grinding.
Assuming you do not need the entire stump removed, for example if you will be building a home in that location, none of your options are “quickest.”
Quickest would come from a comercial grade, dedicated, large, self powered stump grinder.
You can rent these large, self powered stump grinder units.
A massive 42” diameter stump which grew to 6’ diameter slightly below the surface took my wife and I three hours with our 3-point stump grinder mounted to our tractor.
I saw a dedicated pro-grade unit operated by a tree removal service company grind a similar size stump where one operator could be their own spotter because operation was via wireless remote. He got the job done in 10 minutes.
I asked the worker “How much for that grinder?” He claimed it was $70,000 USD. As a comparison, my tractor mounted stump grinder was under $3,000 USD including a slip clutch PTO shaft, after shipping and including a package of six spare teeth.
So three hours VS 10 minutes. When grinding 150 stumps all at once, the 10 minute solution, repeated 150 times wins.
Also, it takes me time to swap tractor attachments. With a dedicated machine, there’s no time lost for set up.
My initial stump count is 15 plus I have 11 dying ash trees standing and I’m sure our remaining dozens of ash trees will eventually die over the next decade.
In my opinion, I purchased the correct tool for our needs.
I have zero interest in becoming a business but I do occasionally help family, friends, and neighbors.
Stump grinding is hard on the tractor. Grinding really shakes the tractor and I’ve snuffed the motor a few times.
If a friend or relative asking for my help had more then a couple of stumps, I’d tell them their project is beyond my consumer grade equipment and if they wish to do-it-yourself stump remove, they could rent a self-powered grinder.
Even if the grinder can withstand the task, the tractor and the tractors hydro-transmission can only take so much abuse.
These little sub-compact utility tractors called SCUTs like my John Deere 1025R with front end loader are over $20,000 USD new. More like $22,000 plus tax. The cost to replace the transmission is about 1/3rd the cost of a new tractor. Stump grinding is hard on these little transmissions.
I need my tractor to last and this stump grinding task is at the John Deere 1025R tractors capability limit or just a bit beyond in my opinion. Because of this capability limit, I will limit my stump grinding and go safe and slow when I am grinding.
We do one stump at a time. By the time we have trimmed the stump for height with a chain saw, ground the stump, cleaned up the area, leveled the ground, planted grass, fertilized, spread hay and watered, we are tired. So one stump on a summer Saturday is my limit, or two small stumps.
I’ve not ground more then two stumps in one day or four stumps in one weekend with my little tractor and consumer grade stump grinder.
I just can’t grind stumps every weekend because I have multiple projects. I expect it will take me a couple of years to get to the point where I feel I’m done grinding my queue of stumps on my land, including felling eleven ash trees that are visibly dying due to the ash boar bug.
All my stumps are 20” diameter or larger, above ground. Several are more then three feet diameter.
If the stumps are old, small under 8” or shrubs, I pop them out of the ground with my front end loader forks.
For personal use, I feel the little 24” flywheel, 3-point hitch mounted, PTO powered subcompact utility tractor stump grinder is worthwhile at just under $3,000. Its not the correct tool for 150 stumps in my opinion.
For 150 stumps, I’d rent a dedicated, comercial grade, self-powered grinder for that project. Grind all weekend and get it done in one shot. Even with a high end comercial grade dedicated rental stump grinder, you are talking four long days of constant grinding so you will need multiple capable machine operators who can trade-off. 😊
Does this help?
♦️Tim - I’m glad you keep your struggles in the video. Makes me know I’m not unique. I’ve snuffed the motor when grinding and loose track of the stump and roots location under the dirt / wood chip mix.
I like Sam's machine, it seems easier on the tractor. Standing beside it would be the best way to see it for me.
I had never used a stump grinder before today. I used the same model Bauma Light model 1P24 you used Tim. The recommended rating is 40hp with maximum rating of 50hp. As far as I can tell the rating is based on tractor engine h.p. and not PTO rated hp. I used a Kubota 4760 and I had no problems with the stump grinder. I did have the pivot pin removed and it took me longer to grind through the stumps. There is a learning curve to using the grinder efficiently. Without the pin the unit would pivot and burn the wood without cutting the wood. The burnt material was then glazed and much harder to get the cutting started. Next time I use it I will install the pin and see if that makes things go smoother. Does the swing type grinder have that same pivot pin?
No, swing type doesn’t need pin. The pin is a safety feature.
stump grinder is strong tiger
I have the Ventrac stump grinder, and they made a mistake by not making the discharge end bigger than the cutting end, since the chips grow exponentially and need a place to go…maybe the next time they can modify it the correct way
I think that you could possibly have extended your center arm Tim and put more of the cutting edge into the dirt and it could have helped. But I know it's different actually running the machine yourself. I could be wrong.
How long does it take to grind a stump on average with the swing type grinder I'm thinking of getting one
There really is no ‘average’. Every single stump is dramatically different.
Hardness, size, etc. simply too hard to give a generalization.
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Love channel. By the way google put a 40 min “add” at start of your video. What are they thinking. I got a finger and know how to click skip.
I can’t imagine the strain that puts on a tractor. What’s the biggest grinder you’ve seen for this application? Being a three point hook up. Do you think they would make something for a 5 or 6 series?
The swing style is offered in a larger size. 3P34.
@@TractorTimewithTim thanks! I can’t wait for your next video.
11:33 Can this stump grinder handle large stumps?
Yes it just takes awhile.
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Was supposed to be valid until the end of July.
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Why didn't you use the Solectrac?
Not enough PTO hp.
@@TractorTimewithTim Really? I've used my grinder on my BX23S. Takes longer than on my 48hp tractor, but still gets the job done. I would have liked to see how it performs.
@@mrpips000 it only has 13 PTO hp.
Gear drive non love PTO would make it impossible to use.
Have you considered dynamite? :)
$350 you can rent a Vermeer SC30TX for a weekend and have all those stumps removed. Downside: no tractor video content!!
Im guessing the grinder Tim was using would be about useless with a gear drive tractor.
Yes. Needs hydrostatic drive.
@@TractorTimewithTim I would add hydrostatic gear tractor in the lowest gearing possible to enable tractor creep mode. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast kinda.
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Great commercial, 18 minutes, I meant to say infomercial
Poor old Tractor Time with Tim can't turn around at his old age. find a swivel seat and maybe you can maybe help out us real old men. I still have my old Ash stump and every year I get my forks out and dig a little more out of it.
I need to come over and try again!
We will let Christy drive the tractor and Denise will work the camera. I have a couple of rocking chairs that we can supervise their work from. 🤣🤣
Very cool video!
Thanks Ken!
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