Stump Grinder Showdown - Woodland Mills WG24 Vs Baumalight 3P24
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2021
- Tractor mount Stump Grinder comparison - Woodland Mills WG24 Vs Baumalight 3P24
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we ran the woodland mills stump grinder on the Mahindra Max 22 and on the John Deere 2038R. We could only run the Baumalight stump grinder on the 2038R. We also used the Artillian grapple to move some logs. Baumalight also makes a fixed grinder which is model number 1p24
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After filming We realized we were cutting from the wrong side in the Woodland mills Grinder.
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The Woodland Mills grinder should always be ran from right to left on the stump, opposite of what you were doing.
Yeah. He read the manual wrong
Thanks for sharing
@@RockhillfarmYT if your Operating the equipment Your the person who should be reading the manual , take nobody's word
@@joelstanhope7231 if you’re being a smarty pants, you should learn the meanings of your and you’re.
I owned a woodland mills fixed grinder for several years…. 500 Red Pine stumps removed average 14 inches…. Works great, you kind of get used to looking back… you can grind many stumps and never get off the tractor.
Brock another great video. I have the Baumalight 1P24 which is basically the same style as the Woodland Mills. I've just posted a couple of videos using it on my channel. The 2 main reasons I bought it had to do with price, of course, but more importantly is the fact that I don't have hydraulic service on the rear of my tractor. You're right about it being a pain in the neck (literally) but as a hobbiest I couldn't justify the expense for going with the more expensive unit.
Been watching your videos as much as tractor time with Tim and good works tractors. Keep it up. Thank you. Starting a business with my kids and all your videos are priceless
Thanks
I'm glad you ran the woodland mills on your Deere. Good job on the video Brock. Thanks for all your efforts. 👍🚜🇺🇸
Yeah, I had a curiosity about the difference between the units but primarily the only reason I went and ground stumps yesterday was in the hopes it was helpful for people who are looking to buy a stump grinder
@@RockhillfarmYT yeah I'm not sure I need a stump grinder but I want one. Lol. I'm 6'7" so I'm very limited on space on the dam tractor. Spinning around and watching the grinder probably isn't a option.
Right
I considered that more of a trivial concern until I was on it for an hour with my neck turned like that and it’s a real issue if you did this a lot
Great video thanks for making it and showing both grinders in action
Thanks
I have a Woodland Mills grinder on my BX2670, it stays on the back of my tractor Spring, Summer and Fall. I use it all the time and probably 150+ easily so far what a great value
That was showing me what I needed to see, gotta get one !
To save your teeth, you should always have a pickaxe handy and dig out around your stump first. And when you’re grinding as soon as you see a spark lift the grinder and move ahead so you can dig out the rocks - saves your teeth a lot with a little extra time spent in prep work.
Thanks for sharing
I’ve made videos where I did that. Seems like a sledgehammer worked better on busting up sandstone
Like the simplicity of Woodland Mill WG24 les moving parts etc.
WoW!!! Cutting a fairly large stump in sneakers, no gloves, no eye or ear protection and no chaps. Great, you are very brave.
Real interesting video (and timely for me.) One thing - it sounded like as soon as you touched the WG24 to the stump, the Mahindra engine / 16hp PTO was struggling. I'm glad you ran the WG24 on the Deere also, since 16hp is *barely* within the range that Woodland cites.
I think I did mount it on the deere at the end of the video
The only other caveat is the owner of the stump grinder misunderstood the instructions on the Woodland Hills and we were grinding from the wrong side of the stump which made it bounce more
It did run better on my tractor but the rocks were another problem on this job
Great job on the video, thanks.
Thank you
As much as I use a stump grinder, I simply cannot justify the cost. I like it better than the Woodland Mills, but just wouldn't sue it enough. After watching this video, my hesitation on pull the trigger has been lifted. Thanks, Brock. 👍
I like my grinder but probably wouldn’t recommend it to most people
Good video
Great video comparison.
I like both styles of grinders BUT the fixed grinder is very difficult to use on slopes. I used one on a steep slope or berm where the stump was right at the peak. Because the tractor is always moving down the slope, you are constantly adjusting the 3 pth while controlling the motion. If you try to grind 90 degrees to the slope then your tractor risks tipping.
In the end, I much prefer the stand alone self propelled Toro unit with tracks. It's a smaller unit with the same horsepower but with a big head. It can get almost almost anywhere and is very stable.
It all comes down to needs vs. cost
I can definitely see where that would be a problem
Thanks for sharing
can't wait for you to pick up a 46-in extreme stump bucket with grapple and premiere it .it'll work Great on that new skid steer you're thinking about buying
Extreme is the brand name? Not familiar with them but I haven’t really looked at skid steer attachments much yet
I think putting a dash cam with camera on the back on the tractor and running the fixed unit would be the way to go. 😎
I have seen people do that. It would definitely work if you got it Setup right
Thanks for watching
Just found your channel. Are used to use those back 20 years ago but when Vermeer and Carlton come out with a real stump grinder I had to get rid of those slow non-productive machines. They’re great for a little landowner or something but they are too slow. Not to mention I broke my PTO shaft off in my 65 hp case about three times. And I do mean broke them off inside the tractor.
I agree on all comments. Not for full time our professional use
I actually just got a skid steer and I’m going to get a stump Grinder for it
@@RockhillfarmYT
I had a Bradco On my Kubota svl95 sure is nice to sit in the air conditioner while using it.
They are a pretty good step up from the tractor mounted units but nothing compares two specific built machines like a Vermeer sctx60 or any Carlton equivalent.
I do enjoy your channel, always appreciate anybody that throws their stuff out there.
Thanks for sharing your experience with them
I got a woodland mills. You got to get the grinder deeper in the ground next to the stump before you make passes.
Exactly
Did you have to cut the PTO shaft to fit the grinder to the 2038R?
I just received my Woodland Mills grinder today and my 2038R should be ready for delivery next week.
Your cousin needs to talk more in the next video, LOL😂
It shouldn't be smoking that much. The teeth are causing the stump to burn from the heat of passing over it and not cutting much. That's when I know I need to change teeth on mine. I own a tree service so I have done a lot of stumps
Great comparison. I have had the fixed grinder on my short list for too long. What do you charge for say the 18" stump that you ground first in the video?
It’s $100 minimum to show up. It’s actually 18 inches. You might be at your minimum.
I’ve got a lot of stump grinding videos for I mentioned, but I charged and how long it took.
Tractor Work Side Business - Is the Stump Grinder Paying for Itself?
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For anyone looking for price updates in 2024:
The fixed grinders of that size range in price from $1900 (mech max) up to $3800 (baumalight stump blaster) and are rated for a PTO output range of 15-45 HP.
The articulated stump grinders range from $4000 (titan attachments) to $8000 (baumalight) and are rated for 20-60 HP at the PTO.
The articulated stump grinders also require 3 hydraulic lines to be added to the rear of your tractor, which is an additional $1300 from summit hydraulics.
If your tractor is still under warranty you'll be paying a shop about $400 to install that kit. Which means you're really comparing a $2k to $4k stump grinder to a $7k to $10k stump grinder. At $10k you're getting into used dedicated stump grinder prices that are far easier to transport and don't take up much more room than the attachment, and have the same power but usually offer nice features like auto feed.
It has been suggested to me by dealers that when buying equipment you should have at least 10% more HP at the PTO than the equipment minimum recommendation just to make sure you aren't over working your tractor and can avoid bogging the engine down constantly. Whether that's a sales gimmick to get you to buy a bigger tractor or not i don't know, but watching that 22 HP Mahindra pull that stump grinder it sounds like it really needed more than the 16 hp at the PTO that it had.
Thanks for sharing. I’m actually at Woodland Mills dealer now.
@@RockhillfarmYT I picked up a Mahindra 1640 2 years ago and have been looking at both styles to replace my 16 HP portable stump grinder ever since. That overall price tag of the articulating models is the only reason I can't bring myself to consider one vs a dedicated stump grinder. The fixed grinders seem a little inconvenient in operation but compared to manhandling a portable stump grinder it seems like a big improvement. I do appreciate your video, it was nice seeing them used back to back on the same machine.
I've been wanting a PTO stump grinder, but my only tractors are 80 hp gear shift machines. I'd be worried they'd tear it up easily and be difficult to maneuver with a clutch style transmission. But I bet if I revved up to PTO speed it would send that grinder through anything
I don’t think you wanna fix style, probably be better with a swing style.
The one I have is rated for tractors with between 30 and 85 PTO horsepower
One size bigger that we all goes from 24 inches up to 34 inches and can run on Tractor’s with over 100 hp
With the articulating grinders, you’re not moving the machine so the gearshift shouldn’t cause a problem
Would a good agriculture remote camera help with having to look backwards so much ?
i like the woodlands better, for simplicity. but i cut the stump low with a chainsaw, and burn the rest, if i’m concerned with rapid stump removal, which in general, am not
It’s like back cutting with a skill saw
Was that an emax 25? My brother in law has one? How'd you like that compared to Deere? Also, baumalight has controls that go with the stump grinder that I've heard make it alot easier to use. Might be kinda hard to use though with your cab. I'd like to get a fixed unit. I have a 1025r and I don't think it has enough HP for the articulating unit.
It was a 22 max Mahendra. Like all the modern tractors, It was capable and you can get work done with it but there were several things I didn’t care for.
Number one it has a pinned on bucket rather than a removable bucket.
Number 2 the treddle pedal and brake being on one side and having a clutch on the other side was hard for me to get used to.
All that said it’s in a much different price range of tractor than mine so I didn’t really want to compare them that way
That tractor probably wouldn’t compare very well to your 1025 either.
I would say my tractor is about as small as you can go for that unit of stump grinder but yours can definitely run the baumalight 1p24 Or this Woodland Mills
@@RockhillfarmYT thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for watching
I like the Bauma stump grinder implement but I have a cab tractor and I don't knoe if it would work on my tractor...?
Great video Brock, what did you think of the treadle?
I hated it
Part of that is not being used to it, but it was difficult to control my speed for this application
@@RockhillfarmYT yep I agree that’s why I’m glad I went with Deere.
If you want to save on teeth soak the ground and dig around 6” down around the stump. This should eliminate about 80% of the rocks but it won’t help what’s imbedded in the stump itself
ROCKHILL FARM On the Woodland Mills stump grinder that you are using their you are starting from the wrong side of the stump
Have done a video on your grapple?
Ok sorry. I watched the rest of the video. Both grinders were run on the Deere. That's a good comparison. All in all I learned a lot. Thanks for the info.
i have hired pro to take out a bunch of evergreens and the have a big stump grinder and i think the best way to remove the stump let the pro do the stump grinding
Do you have a promo code for the WG24, Id like to purchase one based on your review.
I’m seeing on other videos where people are installing a camera and a screen viewer on the tractor so they don’t have twist their neck as much.
Yeah, that would work but I own the articulating grinder so I don’t really need a camera
I'm interes in a vetrical equipment to remove or grind 20 to 30 ft high oil palms, if you can help me, I'l appreciate it. New or used.
Thanks for watching
Yeah my portable 13 inch 15hp stump grinder is way faster than these tractor mounted ones. I'm glad I did not get a PTO driven stump grinder.
Wondering how long the blades will last and how much they cost. That's a hypothetical question but it should have an adverage answer. Costly I'm sure.
Teeth are about $10 each doesn’t sound bad until you think mine has over 50 of them.
Generally the teeth on the center of the disc don’t get used much and I think I’ve never replaced some of those.
The ones towards the outside will last through several stumps unless you’re hitting rocks or something else and then they have to be replaced quickly.
On the Deere, RPMs at 540? Sounds like it's running slowly
Yes it’s running at 540 PTO speed but the gearbox on the baumalight grinder has it running at 900 RPMs
Where as the fixed mount only turns at the 540
Ahhh, just video sound then, thanks!
Nice job with both. Great point about getting used to the treadle pedal, and the importance of the speed of the tractor with the fixed grinder. I actually think I’d prefer the fixed one. I didn’t recognize that chainsaw- did you get a new one? -Chad #purplecollarlife
I didn’t take a chainsaw with me. That was a poulan Saw
Start on the right . Should have read the manual
Price difference is drastic. Would only consider the articulating one if I were doing paid side work with it.
Which is what I do.
Thanks for watching
Even then the price difference is questionable as far as whether it’s worth it or not
@@RockhillfarmYT Maybe so. 2.5x the cost is pretty substantial IMO.
I always ask do you want just the stump or the roots too. If they say roots then it’s double the area.
What’s the swing on that bauma
Cedar smokes
Thanks for watching
Would like to see a comparison between the two fixed grinders.. My little 1025 can't handle it big one like yours. They are about 900 lbs. Others are around 500 plus. Thanks
That would be good if happen to get access to the baumalight 1p24
I don’t really know pros and cons between those two
@@RockhillfarmYT I have seen videos on both but nothing seems to put one up against the other. Think they both use a 24 inch wheel and pto driven. Both seem to rise up if going to fast. Just can't tell from the different videos which is built stronger or better. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have spent about 14 hours digging out two big stumps with my 1025r. Have about 50 to go. I'll never get done at this rate.
le WG24 doit être utlisé en commençant par le coté droit de la souche et non par la gauche, c'est indiqué dans le mode d'emploi et çà évite que le tracteur et le conducteur soit secoué . de plus cela endommage l'ensemble de l'assemblage !
$8000 stump grinder and a $100 Chainsaw. Your killing me.
I actually have a decent chainsaw collection( 6 total). Most of the time I use the Stihl 500i For cutting down stumps.
I just didn’t think to bring one with me because the property owner had one
@@RockhillfarmYT the 500i is a nice saw
I'm looking to purchase the baumalight 3p34 for my jd 5075e
That would probably be a much more capable set up.
The 3P24 requires a minimum 30 PTO horsepower which is exactly what my tractor has. I think it would run better on a little bit bigger tractor in the 40-50 pto hp range
That said, I’ve ground at least 50 large stumps with it and I get a side income from it
@@RockhillfarmYT that's what I'm looking to do. I work for my grandmother. She owns a mobile home park and 185 acres of land here in N.Y. we have around 30 large pines that need to come down in the next couple of months so it's definitely something I'm interested in. Also I have so many other trees around the farm property and in the park it's worth having in the long run. Plus I want to start a business on the side cutting trees so the unit would come in handy for that.
Sounds like a good plan
This is a concise video showing a typical stump job
Tractor Stump Grinder Paying for Itself?
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Looks like you are cutting with the leading edge of the blade so it is pushing up on the stump . If you used the back of the blade it would pull down stoping the bounce. Check your manual I have never used one so I know nothing for sure.
It doesn’t have teeth on the back side of the flywheel. You wouldn’t see what you were cutting and would risk a world of trouble for both the grinder and the tractor backing into something you can’t see.
Skip to 4:25 to see actual stump grinding.
It looked like the Mahindra 3pt flow needed to be turned down, so it's not so quick and jumpie.
Thanks for sharing
You started on the wrong side with the fixed unit. You want the load reduced when the unit sways.
I noticed that too, they need to read the instruction manual.
Need to take a smaller bite each time and go down as far as you plan to go before moving forward.
You can not go full depth before moving. The enclosure bottoms out
I think the Woodland is the way to go. You just need to sharpen those teeth man! Its throwing dust not chips.
They are carbide teeth so you don’t really sharpen them
I can’t say if the fixed units or the articulating units are “better” but I can say that the articulating unit is more fun to operate because you can stand off to the side and watch the head go across the stump instead of trying to guess where you’re at on it.
Whether that difference justifies more than double the price is another question
I’m done dozens of stamps with the baumalight unit and here is what I’ve learned about these kinds of teeth
If there are no rocks in the stump you can do several stumps before worrying about the teeth
For stumps like these that are full of rocks there’s nothing you can do about it because you could go through a whole box of $12 teeth on one stump
Thanks for watching and for commenting
@@RockhillfarmYT I dugout two stumps with my 1025 backhoe. I have 17 hours on it now. About 13 hours was from digging out the two stumps. Had a lot of fun but made an enormous mess. Mud all over the place. I can see a grinder in my future. Dead ash trees all around me.
@@RockhillfarmYT you do sharpen those sanvik carbides. I sharpen mine after every job.
Next time don't shoot the debris onto the county road! Just turn her the other direction...
Can you cut backing into the stump?
No. The teeth are on the front side of the flywheel. Also, the Woodland Mills grinder is made to pivot upward if you are trying to cut to fast or you hit a rock. The other issue with going backward is that you can’t see what you’ve pushing into. The cost of the Baumalite shown in this comparison is now 4 times the cost of the Woodland Mills. You’d have to grind a lot of stumps either for yourself or even if being paid to justify the difference in cost.
how many sets of teeth did you go through
He was bias u can tell. That in line fixed was stronger and more efficient also he coulda went deeper per pass.
$2500 (woodland Mills) VS $????
READ PAGE 30 of the FUNNY MANUAL TO LEARN THAT you are cutting from the WRONG SIDE .
Why are you typing something in all caps that is acknowledged all through the comment section including the disclaimer in the pinned comment
Anytime, there’s something incorrect in a video you’re likely to find that updated in the pinned comment. The description is another place that mentions that and it’s a good place for updated information on any video
Often times when I go to someone else’s property and demo their equipment that I don’t know anything about I’m trusting their experience and what they tell me about it.
This is an old video. I’m now a Woodland Mills dealer and have my own Woodland Mills grinder. I’ve also tested a few other brands on the channel.
This is not apples to apples. Two very different sizes tractors.
The smaller tractor would not run the bigger stump grinder, but I ran the small grinder on both tractors
It’s also not meant to be a definitive answer to anything. It’s just some guy showing his experiences.
If you go below grade why keep going
The more you can remove the better. Do you want a good solid layer of dirt on top of the remaining below grade stump.
Grass won’t grow on a stump
Jeez, doesn’t anyone read the user manual first any more???
Are you talking about cutting from the wrong side with the Woodland mills Grinder?
The owner of the Grinder told me he read it in the manual and I took his word for it. He called me a couple days later and said he had read it wrong
Next time you guys want to compete, you can come to my home.
I own a stump grinding business. I can officially say you guys have no idea how to operate equipment!