Slaver's Bay - Map Detailed (Game of Thrones)

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
  • Explaining the map of Slaver's Bay from
    Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice and Fire
    Thumbnail Daenerys Mhysa art by - Josu Hernaiz
    Blank map by - atlasoficeandf...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 196

  • @unemilifleur
    @unemilifleur 5 років тому +573

    I didn’t know Daenerys’ ancestors enslaved the ancestors of the slavers in slavers bay. That’s pretty ironic.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 5 років тому +84

      Valyria was built on dragons and slaves, which is why 7 out of 9 Free Cities still practice it (Braavos and Pentos do not, although only Braavos is truly free).

    • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
      @tHeWasTeDYouTh 5 років тому +29

      no, Valyria only started to use slaves after Ghis was destroyed by them and they "learned" about slavery.

    • @alphagamer9505
      @alphagamer9505 3 роки тому +1

      @@SantomPh add Lorath to that list

    • @bensonfang1868
      @bensonfang1868 3 роки тому

      No they merely defeated them in battle then promptly became their most loyal customers

    • @stomper2888
      @stomper2888 2 роки тому

      Yup

  • @ghoulboards
    @ghoulboards 6 років тому +463

    Personal opinion: there is no place in GoT not worth talking about. If you feel there is too little information, do it anyways! Throw it in with another video at the very least!

    • @sgt.krakatoa1093
      @sgt.krakatoa1093 5 років тому +5

      Lol if he does ulthos

    • @adrianbundy3249
      @adrianbundy3249 5 років тому +4

      I want him make a 10 minute video about the 1 name and 1 continent we only have a name about, showing us how much the westerosi don't know! There must be a 10 minutes of inferences we must have been able to draw from that information :)

    • @ghoulboards
      @ghoulboards 3 роки тому +1

      @fabRic_jAck I would 100% watch an ulthos speculation video

  • @thedragondemands5186
    @thedragondemands5186 6 років тому +166

    I've always been kind of interested in Tolos and Elyria (and Mantarys) - these remnants of "Valyria" itself that aren't really part of the Free Cities or Slaver's Bay. And you covered those in the "Valyria" video so I understand they only get brief mention here. But it's so odd: how they were technically not part of Slaver's Bay and the Ghiscari at first, but after the Doom, Tolos and Elyria kind of drifted into the political orbit of the rest of "slaver's bay" (the geographical feature). Wish the books would give more info.

    • @therabbi9848
      @therabbi9848 5 років тому +5

      Love your in-depth criticism of the many shortcomings of the TV show

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 5 років тому +5

      It makes sense - places like Mantarys were sort-of first-line colonies. Colonies gotta mercantile - if daddy Valyria's gone up in flames then mama Ghiscar will have to suffice. Power follows the trade routes and the 'The Demon Road' is one of those - though I don't think there's enough caravan insurance in the world to get me to work that route.

  • @whycreate
    @whycreate  6 років тому +149

    I think this covers every major region, but I do want to make a map video for all of northern Essos

    • @alanmike6883
      @alanmike6883 6 років тому +2

      I have founded this channel very informative. So thank you for that.
      Your channel, Grey area, the batt productions are the principal ones I see about game of thrones but I'm glad to see you are branching out 👍

    • @alanmike6883
      @alanmike6883 6 років тому +1

      Oh and talking thrones as well

    • @howhigh0521
      @howhigh0521 6 років тому +1

      @@alanmike6883whycreate and indeep geek(Robert) are my two favorite!!!

    • @mercy1trick75
      @mercy1trick75 6 років тому

      I want to see that too

    • @Brandonhayhew
      @Brandonhayhew 6 років тому +1

      Make a every detailed region map about of every Free cities of Essos.

  • @demilembias2527
    @demilembias2527 5 років тому +195

    Astapor has got to be the worst place to live in the whole series. If you live there your life is either hell or you are one of the most evil people on the entire planet. Basically, it is a city sized slave pen.

    • @austinmasoni3577
      @austinmasoni3577 3 роки тому +14

      i hate it here

    • @thatonekid6677
      @thatonekid6677 2 роки тому +6

      @@austinmasoni3577 lmao, do you live in astapor?

    • @dylanb3431
      @dylanb3431 6 місяців тому +7

      It's dubai

    • @demilembias2527
      @demilembias2527 6 місяців тому +2

      @dylanb3431 yeah honestly youre right. I've never been there luckily (I'm a minority that they would not allow in lol) but the modern day Arabian oil states do sound a good deal like astapor

    • @ExtraVictory
      @ExtraVictory 3 місяці тому +2

      I was born in Japan, a free country. and then lived in China for a while, a total black hole of personal freedoms & free speech. The truth is, they were not that different in daily life, the differences emerged in more subtle ways, like I don't know Chinese for instance, which was definitely a problem (but technology and my family having money helped) or the lack of people using normal internet & social medias, a lot of people being so suppressed or brainwashed they have given up on freedom or prosperity and just work 996, air quality being pretty bad sometimes, or so on.
      Even it you multiplied all of that, Astapor would still not be comparable to Beijing in almost any way lol. but the idea that modern Arab nations are comparable to Astapor also seems ludicrous based on my experiences at least, where Beijing was kinda awesome with some downsides not hell on earth lol

  • @jchen1970
    @jchen1970 5 років тому +209

    Valyria is like the Roman Empire and ghis is like Carthage

    • @hemidas
      @hemidas 5 років тому +41

      Carthage mixed with Babylon, Assyria and maybe Egypt.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 5 років тому +36

      Ghis is obviously ancient Egypt. Carthage isn't much older than Rome. Ghis is much older than Valyrian.

    • @Zombehnation1001
      @Zombehnation1001 5 років тому +34

      @@grubbybum3614 ancient Egypt wasn't defeated by Rome, Carthage was.
      Ancient Egypt didn't found colonies along the mediterranean, Carthage did.
      Ghiscar founded mereen, yunkai, astapor etc, similar to Calaris, Novo Carthage etc
      The ice and fire wiki also deems the Ghiscar wars as analogous to the Punic wars.
      Rome grew in the shadow of Carthage. Just like Valyria outgrowing Ghiscar.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 5 років тому +8

      @@Zombehnation1001. But the pyramids of ancient Ghis were built thousands of years before Valyria? Like, the original Ghis City I mean

    • @Zombehnation1001
      @Zombehnation1001 5 років тому +15

      @@grubbybum3614 And Valyria lasted 8,000 years, far longer than Rome. The timeline isnt scaled to real world history in the books.

  • @Tony-ih1pg
    @Tony-ih1pg 5 місяців тому +11

    as soon as Daenerys left for Westeros, pretty sure slavery came back in that region

  • @ryanr5017
    @ryanr5017 4 роки тому +20

    Just saying the unsullied are some of my favorite topics

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 6 років тому +58

    You think viserys would have told Dany about the Dragons Don't last long in captivity. Do you think Aegon would've chained up Balerion if people brought the burnt children's bones before him? Visenya would've said tough tits

    • @damuvang1915
      @damuvang1915 3 роки тому +3

      Is that why the other two dragons that no one cares about are small? I always wondered why Drogon was bigger.

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +20

      @@damuvang1915 he was always bigger than the others. But the others being locked up widened the size gap

    • @damuvang1915
      @damuvang1915 3 роки тому +1

      @@madambutterfly1997 You’re pretty quick for a two year old comment. 😂

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +12

      @@damuvang1915 this is what too much free time looks like😂😂

    • @cardenova
      @cardenova 5 місяців тому

      Lmao

  • @wileyschmitt
    @wileyschmitt 6 років тому +63

    First Daario is much more like he's portrayed in the books compared to the second Daario, though it seems people are split on who they prefer.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 5 років тому +4

      Neither looks like Daario and neither is as confident or flamboyant.

    • @jonariaofthejonaries1705
      @jonariaofthejonaries1705 5 років тому +14

      Daario in the books has a long three pronged blue dyed beard with a golden mustache. Please tell me how either one of them look similar to the books portrayal.

    • @sergiovela7686
      @sergiovela7686 4 роки тому +7

      First daario is more Unique, I Guess? Second daario is just your average Hollywood hottie

  • @nikiindzhiev5369
    @nikiindzhiev5369 Рік тому +3

    Love your videos especially this maps detailed playlist keep it up

  • @etnoballium4516
    @etnoballium4516 6 років тому +6

    Thanks so much for making these videos

    • @stomper2888
      @stomper2888 2 роки тому +1

      Thank the $ he gets from our views. If it wasn't for that he wouldn't do it

  • @FarhanShaikh-fi5le
    @FarhanShaikh-fi5le 6 років тому +10

    Make a video on all the Valyrian Dragons and their riders.

    • @johkupohkuxd1697
      @johkupohkuxd1697 6 років тому +2

      There isnt much info about that, im 90% sure

    • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
      @tHeWasTeDYouTh 5 років тому +2

      @@johkupohkuxd1697 I think there are only 2 named people of Valyria that are dragon riders. One is a Jaenara Belaerys that spent 3 years mapping Sothoryos and the other was a dragonlord Aurion from Qohor that led 30,000 men to try and reclaim the ruins of Valyria after the doom but was never heard from again.

  • @MrTheboffin
    @MrTheboffin 6 років тому +112

    I have an objection. it is now dragons bay.

    • @HamzahabriTV
      @HamzahabriTV 6 років тому +19

      the bay of dragons XD

    • @MrTheboffin
      @MrTheboffin 6 років тому +1

      true. oups

    • @PeteandRepeat1
      @PeteandRepeat1 5 років тому +4

      Well Dany is dead now so it’ll probably be slaver’s bay again before long

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 5 років тому +25

      @@PeteandRepeat1 The only thing dead is the TV show.

    • @FlowerTrollSan
      @FlowerTrollSan 5 років тому +11

      I think by now it's the Bay of Whores, since Daario has been rulling it. 😂😂

  • @AgsSpec123
    @AgsSpec123 6 років тому +41

    Have you ever considered doing what if videos?

  • @adityaagarwal6640
    @adityaagarwal6640 6 років тому +11

    "and I have no idea what that even means" lol, same but I kinda want to

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh 5 років тому +6

    forgot to mention Tolos which is the city in the peninsula right of Elyria. Borash is a ruined city in between Telos and Meereen in the coast

  • @hemidas
    @hemidas 5 років тому +8

    Lockstep Legions - Phalanxes?

  • @therabbi9848
    @therabbi9848 5 років тому +5

    So Old Ghis is like Rome and Carthage put into one. Cool

    • @willoliver8167
      @willoliver8167 5 років тому

      The False Rabbi it's Egypt.

    • @faisalhakim8078
      @faisalhakim8078 5 років тому

      Nope its more like the ancient babylon...with Cyrus the Great as the king

    • @Claudiu_rdc
      @Claudiu_rdc 5 років тому +1

      @@faisalhakim8078 Cyrus ruled the Persian empire

    • @faisalhakim8078
      @faisalhakim8078 5 років тому

      @@Claudiu_rdc Babylon is part of Persian

    • @Claudiu_rdc
      @Claudiu_rdc 5 років тому +1

      @@faisalhakim8078 Babylon was a kingdom conquered by Persia (different cultures here) but its not the same as Persia even if they used the city of Babylon after the conquest as their capital.

  • @gabrielbreaker8859
    @gabrielbreaker8859 3 роки тому +1

    I’m not gonna lie….. the background Skyrim music is perfect

  • @jeremybird3467
    @jeremybird3467 2 роки тому +4

    I wonder how long after daeny and her dragons left slavers bay/bay of dragons did the slave masters take it back??? She had massive issues while she was there...and she had all 3 of her dragons since the night king had not killed viserion yet...she also had 8 to 10,000 unsullied and 2,000 second sons...she didnt get all those dothraki until right before she finally set sail for westeros....she left daario and the second sons behind to maintain order...she couldn't maintain order with her full might for very long...i highly doubt the second sons held it...there is also the fact that the second sons is a sellsword company...and sellswords dont have the best rep...also she sorta spurned daario after basically leading him on for a very long time....im sure daario tried to do as she wanted but i doubt it worked...im not even gonna mention how the show runners turned her from savior to evil tyrant in like 2 episodes...yeah those last 2 seasons in particular were a mess...i still enjoy them...but it still makes me angry how they took a wonderful program and rushed it so bad they completely butchered all the crap that came before!!! They attempted to ruin dorne...and while i guess its the least popular of the 7 kingdoms(there is actually like 9 kingdoms)...but while book 4 was by far the slowest read of all of them...the dorne chapters were terrific!!! I was so excited for arianne martel and the show just scrubbed her and quentyn...its stupid...if they had included those 2 characters and done dorne correctly...heck that is a seasons worth of material alone right there...now we got house of the dragon attempting to retcon things...but we have already seen how all of it allegedly plays out in the show...im glad dan and dave did not get to do the star wars program they rushed GOT so badly so they could begin working on it...they done butchered 1 franchise they helped bring into live action...i dont want them butchering anymore!!! Keep them away from any more beloved franchises or series!!! Star wars been butchered enough since disney took over anyway....hard to believe its been 3 or 4 years since that let down of a final season....

  • @rattatausedtackle7330
    @rattatausedtackle7330 6 років тому +15

    Given the harsh conditions in Essos, I now wonder why people continue to live there.

    • @Safersephiroth777
      @Safersephiroth777 5 років тому +10

      Because where they would go? It is not like today where you can go to another country and work there. Good luck doing that there. They don't have a unified goverment. For example in Westeros anyone can move anywhere because it is a single kingdom but not here.

  • @natanaga9892
    @natanaga9892 5 років тому +11

    I died a little at killing the dog part after they raised it from since a puppy.

    • @John-wu2mn
      @John-wu2mn 5 років тому +6

      NataNaga Well you’ll be happy to know it is not true and this whole video is complete fiction...

  • @soy.sauce.latte.
    @soy.sauce.latte. 4 роки тому +5

    How did Baristan remember and pronounce those two names but not Dario Naharris

  • @that1niceguy246
    @that1niceguy246 2 роки тому +1

    5:50 probably means the different ways to... grunt, among other things and intimate positions

  • @normanfrank1532
    @normanfrank1532 5 років тому +1

    Good job. Do the summer island please

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 5 років тому +16

    Daenerys didn't spend a few seasons in Slaver's Bay, "learning to be a ruler."
    She was learning to be a revolutionary, and a conqueror.
    Daenerys didn't begin learning how to be a ruler until she had quelled the political opposition, and then established her residence atop the great pyramid of Meereen.
    It was upon receiving word that the fragile system she had tentatively established in Astapor, Yunkai, and Qarth had all crumbled, all but erasing her gains, that she finally made the critical decision to postpone her voyage of conquest across the Narrow Sea to Westeros.
    That instead she would remain in Slaver's Bay at least until the world she had worked so hard to build was more realized.
    She spent a few seasons in Slaver's Bay knocking down the ancient system of corruption and oppression.
    She only spent about half of a season, in total, learning to be a ruler.
    It's a good thing, too. By the time she did sail to Westeros she had changed the entire social and political order, and name of the, "Bay of Dragons." Augmented her military force with thousands more Dothraki Screamers, an thousand ships, including the former master's and the Iron Fleet, and had made a critical Westerosi alliance with the Dornish, Iron Born, the Tyrell matriarchy of the Reach, and three almost fully grown Dragons.
    It is probably safe to assume whatever, "Revolution," she would have brought to Westeros, had she decided to leave when she originally intended, would most likely have been crushed and fizzled out, and the entirety of Slaver's Bay returned to the Slavers.
    By having the wisdom, while still in Essos, to recognize that being a conqueror isn't the same as being a ruler, she has subsequently improved her chances for success CONSIDERABLY in Westeros.

  • @balllllllllllo6462
    @balllllllllllo6462 5 років тому +5

    love the Elder Scrolls Skyrim theme it really fits

    • @factbeaglesarebest
      @factbeaglesarebest 4 роки тому

      Umm what? How in anyway do you find an ES theme in ASOIAF lore... AGOT was released in 1996 with a growing collection of lore that. Elder scrolls 1 was released in 1994 but didn’t have the same semblance of lore...
      Putting aside how ASOIAF wasn’t written when ES had really taken off, the lore is very dissimilar. If you get ES vibes from reading ASOIAF... well I feel sorry for you.

    • @balllllllllllo6462
      @balllllllllllo6462 4 роки тому +3

      @@factbeaglesarebest No mate you misunderstand or maybe i didn't make it clear. the music in the background is from the Elder Scrolls Skyrim OST. It works when hes talking about the lore; not that the lore reminds me of ES.

    • @alanschmidt703
      @alanschmidt703 Рік тому

      @@balllllllllllo6462 I can confirm, the music is from Skyrim and is very fitting.

  • @sawney_bean
    @sawney_bean 5 років тому

    Thanks for the info

  • @Ghastly_Grinner
    @Ghastly_Grinner 5 років тому +7

    "learning how to be a ruler" if by that you mean fuckign everything up then pissing off then you are correct lol

  • @ChayGrice
    @ChayGrice Місяць тому

    3:55 Same brothers. Same.

  • @jbtechcon7434
    @jbtechcon7434 5 років тому +1

    5:49 TMI, bro! :-)

  • @lavarball7471
    @lavarball7471 6 років тому

    Nice video

  • @mike.n.n.7723
    @mike.n.n.7723 6 років тому +2

    Where'd you get the Daenerys image for the thumbnail?

  • @NinoBrown212
    @NinoBrown212 6 років тому +2

    Ok but where is the Ulthos video?!?!?

  • @knightshade1297
    @knightshade1297 5 років тому +6

    Dany is a terrible ruler (in the book) she has God intention tho

    • @davidjones272
      @davidjones272 5 років тому +2

      She's hardly terrible, flawed certainly, but she is clearly very intelligent and strong willed. There are numerous times where she is able to find better solutions to problems than her advisors can suggest. She lacks for good advisors she can trust. Only barriston is trustworthy, and he is no politician.

  • @mishdormido4912
    @mishdormido4912 5 років тому +11

    Oh so because viserion and rhaegal were chained up in Meereen, they couldn’t match the size of drogon who wasnt chained up

  • @mannyalveraz1861
    @mannyalveraz1861 5 років тому +2

    Bay of dragons

  • @John-wu2mn
    @John-wu2mn 5 років тому +4

    George RR Martin: What the feck is this dude talking about, I never wrote all this....

  • @Cecil_Augus
    @Cecil_Augus 3 роки тому +4

    Im so disappointed with the TV series that I get pissed whenever he shows images from the show.
    Please let me with my imagination, I don't believe nothing from the show, I was betrayed.

  • @dreadcornet5905
    @dreadcornet5905 2 роки тому

    Maybe their god/goddess is the breaker of chains. Maybe Why they choose to follow Dani after the freedom

  • @lukaspersson447
    @lukaspersson447 Рік тому

    So.. Westeros is basically north America and the rest is south Europe? Very, very similar if the narrow sea would be the real ocean between. At least according to this map

  • @sg_1541
    @sg_1541 5 років тому +4

    Westeros is the most boring place in the ice and fire world... I bet..., 😒😒😒😒

  • @codymiller5748
    @codymiller5748 5 років тому

    Do the whole map

  • @fuckyalll1496
    @fuckyalll1496 5 років тому +1

    Can you do castle's detailed?

  • @mariomcpokemon
    @mariomcpokemon 4 роки тому

    Wait did all four cities get ruined by the dothraki?

  • @thegentilehunter
    @thegentilehunter 5 років тому +3

    once they become more human they are going to have some serious psychological issues.

  • @Dragonite-hm4lm
    @Dragonite-hm4lm 2 роки тому

    background ost?

  • @moonsorrow77
    @moonsorrow77 5 років тому +1

    Ghiscar is ancient Egyptians..

  • @BasementPepperoni
    @BasementPepperoni 2 роки тому +1

    Never understood why the Unsullied were castrated.
    You would have MUCH stronger fighters otherwise. Is it because the masters don't want them reproducing? Therefore having an outside influence of being a brainwashed and dedicated soldier or something?

  • @sonofjack6286
    @sonofjack6286 5 років тому

    You didn't mention Tolos.

  • @zurielkaysquad7299
    @zurielkaysquad7299 2 роки тому

    Even Spartans don't train like unsullied

    • @YaBoiDREX
      @YaBoiDREX 3 місяці тому

      Yeah because irl an army of eunuchs would get defeated without having their complete strength.

  • @Zacon2mlg
    @Zacon2mlg 6 років тому

    Queen’s Bay*

  • @kevinmeng5231
    @kevinmeng5231 4 роки тому +4

    I don't get it, when you cut a man, he's got no more testosterones, then how can he build muscle and fight?

    • @Mona-kg6hy
      @Mona-kg6hy 4 роки тому +10

      I haven't finished the vid yet, but I assume by cut you mean castrate. Testosterone isn't completely tied to the testicles. Women not only can be muscular, but have testosterone as well. Women just have more estrogen and men have more testosterone, but we both have both hormones. Muscle largely depends mostly on exercise and diet. For the most part, protein = muscle.

    • @wrynightraven5255
      @wrynightraven5255 Рік тому

      In the books, they rely on the unsullied being faster and more disciplined than strong

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 6 років тому +2

    That's what people keep telling me about that's how the golden company managed to beat the unsullied at Qohor. That a unit could never be too full man because they lack testosterone which I think is just complete BS when you stop and think about it.

    • @magicman3400
      @magicman3400 6 років тому

      Hasan Wilson the golden company beat the unsullied cause those unsullied had grown fat and useless though in an open battle they most likely would beat the unsullied cause of the versatility the sack of qohor was because of the fact those unsullied had grown weak not cause of tes but that’s why the unsullied have to use tight and stable formations to make up for their lack of tes.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 5 років тому

      The Unsullied of Qohor were but the city watch, the Golden Company are trained soldiers and virtually an army on their own.
      The lore says they sacked the city but it does not say they conquered it- perhaps they convinced the rulers to surrender rather than go all out.

    • @magicman3400
      @magicman3400 5 років тому

      SantomPh they had a closed city and they had unsullied training they with a huge advantage

    • @davidjones272
      @davidjones272 5 років тому

      Testosterone is important to the development of the male physique including muscle mass, so yes in reality the unsullied would be physically weaker than non eunuchs who had similarly physical roles. They would also all have high voices mind.

    • @factbeaglesarebest
      @factbeaglesarebest 4 роки тому

      Uh... no it is quite correct. Testes produce testosterone which causes men to grow more muscular. There’s a reason Eunichs were historically used as advisors. Chop off a boys balls (pre puberty) and they will not grow like a balled individual.

  • @joshcoughx
    @joshcoughx 6 років тому

    All four cities were turned to ruin.

  • @weedys6264
    @weedys6264 3 роки тому

    I wish you would have based your info on the books instead of the show.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 6 років тому +1

    Avoid Wars you can't win and never raise your flag for an asinine cause like slavery

  • @jay-t1030
    @jay-t1030 4 роки тому +1

    I like Dany but she makes many dumb decisions. Like staying in slavers bay when she got finally gets a army. Another mistake was refusing to use her dragon when she was being besieged my the slavers army.