Subiesport TV - Megatest: Subaru XV Crosstrek vs Rally WRX STI
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2013
- Excerpt from Episode 2: how does the XV Crosstrek compare to a full-on rally car? Pro driver Paul Eklund runs circles against a DirtFish Group-N Rally Car to find out.
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1- Turn off dynamic stability Control
2- Go back on the track and do some good AWD drifting !
+Mohamed Messily As noted prior: YOU CAN NOT TURN OFF STABILITY CONTROL on the XV Crosstrek (or most modern cars for that matter.) You can disable Traction Control, but that won't allow drifting. Stability control is always on.
Thank you for your reply! Noted, overall it is a nice video!! Hope to see more :)
+Driving Sports TV Ahhh but you can pull the fuse in the bottom right ;) it'll disable traction control, ABS, and cruise control. The car completely changes and oversteers like an absolute beast. That might defeat the point of this test though...
+Andy S Jr. This was my thought. first I understand why they wouldn't say or do this from a liability stand point. but from an actually testing point of view they really should have pulled the fuse, and let the pro drive it to bring out all its potential. what a waste of time this whole video was.
turning of vdc will allow more wheel slip.
when I heard him say "come on traction control gogogo" I decided to write this comment and leave before he ruins this car for me.
should put the rally driver in the xv
That is a rally driver in the XV. Paul Eklund is a regional champion rallyist, and even tried out for the SWRT many years ago. He's good. The car is limiting what he can do.
Thanks for that info. I had the same thought as FUreplygirl. Even thinking the driver was just some schmo, though, I thought the Crosstrek did pretty well for a car with half the horsepower as its competitor and a lot of tech designed to keep it from driving like a rally car.
This is comparison between drivers not cars
It is impossible to disable stability control on the new Crosstrek (without pulling fuses). It's not that wanted to keep it on, he was forced to.
you just have to pull a fuse, it disables hill assist, abs, and stability control
This is 100% due to drivers. I'd love to see the drivers swap cars. He would've absolutely won, even in the Crosstrek. On a true offroad track, the Crosstrek kills, but unfortunately, it is massively aenemic on power. It's an absolute shame that-EVEN 5 YEARS LATER-Subaru refuses to put an engine with decent power into a car with the offroad sensibility of the Crosstrek. It would sell like hotcakes.
150hp BARELY cuts it in the standard Impreza. Expecting the same engine to power the much heavier Crosstrek is a pipe dream. PLEASE, Subaru, put a decent engine into the Crosstrek! PLEASE!
A manual Crosstrek with the VDC fuse pulled should be decent for this stuff. Intake spacers, exhaust, high-flow airfilter, and/or even an AVO turbo could push the 2.slo over 200HP, which might be adequate for giving the 3200lb Crosstrek a sporting feel.
I know this is old but I wanted to say I got a 2023 Sport and it's a huge improvement. They listened to you.
Well done! A good comparison between the two cars with two suitably trained and talented drivers. A fully sorted out rally car will always end up superseding a road car in these conditions. The point of the video and what was interesting was how well the standard XV stands up to this type of treatment which is more akin to real life driving situations rather than rock-hopping that is often shown as off road ability (other videos have also demonstrated the great abilities of the XV in these type of situations).
This video shows that the XV's driver aids and great build qualities will assist drivers who want to drive effectively and efficiently along gravel roads in real life situations. Thanks for uploading and sharing the video!!
Traction control in a "rally race"?? Turn that crap off and do it again!
You missed the part where Paul tells us that he can't turn it off in the Crosstrek. (Not without pulling fuses.)
Driving Sports TV What year Crosstrek is he driving? I drive a 2014 and I can turn mine off with the push of a button.
Chase Rabideau Nope. Most cars will report traction control disabled, when in fact it's just one stage that has been disabled. Try sliding the car, you won't be able to.
Driving Sports TV +Chase Rabideau I can confirm this; even with it "disabled" I've triggered it trying to drift around some open corners on a snow-covered road in my 2014 Crosstrek.
This particular rally car is a JDM model, where the STI was running an EJ207 2.0 twin-scroll in 2008. All the other DirtFish rally cars are USDM-spec 2.5s. We didn't pick one or another for the test on purpose. This was the car that was not otherwise being used on the day of filming.
put someone behind the wheel of that crosstrek that's not scared of it.
Nice comparo. I miss my old WRXes, but a manual Crosstrek is in my sights since it serves my needs perfectly even if it's slow.
This car is not limiting. I have a 13 xv, all you do is Gass it and guide it. He's over driving the car. With its self alignment the car will correct and balance you out. The less you correct, the more you fly. Guy was being timid and technical.
+Brian Whithed Timid and technical? He's a professional rally driver racing in a family car
Wow, allot of hate on here. Commenters, you should look into who Paul Ekland is and see him drive before you call him a nube. I am willing to bet he will run circles around 99% of you. The grandpa-ness is all in the powertrain of the XV and not in the driver. Thanks for sharing this video dirtfish!
You can always just pull the fuse. Search the forums for exactly how to do it. We couldn't do it for this video because it was a loaner from Subaru.
The Crosstrek desperately needs a Turbo 2.0 bump it up to 200hp and I'd trade my Forester for one. It's just too sluggish right now.
Turn it into the mid-late-90's Gravel Express and I'd be in love.
You can pull the VCD fuse and disable it without risking damaging the car. It would have made running the track so much easier for you too. Disabling the hill assist probably would have helped you off the line too (assuming that’s a 5MT you’ve got there).
I've seen that place - drove by it on a Ural (Might even have gone in, if the gate was unlocked - can't remember for sure)
What were those rims you guys put on the crosstrek? SOO much better than the stock!
Lets see the Rally Car climb some rocks that the crosstrek can.
In the wrc they don't climb rocks they do jumps
what were the tires you put on the crosstrek?
Tell that to the rally teams who run higher lifts on certain stages. It's no sports car, but it doesn't necessarily have floppy handling. Heck, it's got a stiffer suspension than the regular Impreza.
Any one make a diff protector for the 2012 Impreza? Was the one showed in this video pretty much a one off?
Touche!!! I agree, that killed it for me, then I jumped into a crosstrek with the manual trans thinking it might be better, WRONG, the gears were so tall that it felt slower than the CVT trek!!!! If i did get one i would have to put an aftermarket turbo on it but then my warranty goes by-by, so whats the point of buying new, for 30k, which is what would be in it after a QUALITY turbo kit was built for it!!
where can someone buy those skid plates for our xv crosstrek???
sad that car 23 doesn't have that awesome 2.0 :( just a forged 2.5 now
Just a quick note... I've noticed a few people suggesting to turn off traction control but I don't think I know a modern car which traction control can be disabled 100%.
Now do it in Ascent turbocharged...
how is it JDM spec and left hand drive?
I have the XV and it drives great (living in snowy canada, I know!). However, taking a rally car head on with a city car...a little far fetched! How about the XV vs CRV VS RAV4 vs stock impreza vs protege5...something in the same class!
The CVT in XV doesn't help either, sadly...
Did I hear that correctly ? 16" Michelin Rally tires ?
They should have said 16" rally wheels with Michelins.
a two liter 08 sti...intriguing
I would loooove to take my V8 T-Bird on that rally course..... :-D
Primitive Racing has the skid plates for any Subaru.
Do they make an H6 crosstrek? If they don't, they should.
...kiitos
Way to ruin the comparison, Why would you leave the traction control on in XV when its clearly not in the STI.
Exactly. Rigged anyway with the STI at twice the HP of the XV. Like to see the XV with 200 HP and the manual transmission.
Traction control off?
So the question is turbo charge the XV or lift a WRX?
The answer is Yes.
Tis correct.
I can disable traction control on my 09 Sti, there's a button for it!
XV was manual trans. only the CVT (mine) is sluggish. Manual is more responsive.
what 2.0 litres ?? you mean 2.5 ?
I think he was asking the traction control to let him go faster.
Useless comparison. High performance car pro driver vs bonestock normal car with average skill driver.
hamzterix average skill driver? thats a professional rally driver in the crosstrek...lol
professional driver that is soft as fuck
100MPH Selfies Dirtfish doesn’t modify any of there cars. Not “High performance” at all. Lol good try tho
Paul Eklund is an experienced rally car driver.
I bought a Subaru Cross/trek two months ago. I love it but m not getting the mpg 's that were advertised. What's up ? Is anyone else having this problem? Joanne
Joanne Skerritt maybe your alignment is off
Did he swap in a JDM 2.0 STi motor?
Yeah i thought so
Nothing to be ashamed of in a 2.0 liter boxer engine, its what's used in rally cross instead of the 2.5.
This reminds me of a national geographic hunter hunting prey video
You guys crosstrek have traction control? I removed my abs and Trac long time ago 🤣
Dangle a burger in front of the cross trek I'm sure he'd drive faster
Paul, I was hoping to see the raccoon catcher on the car. O_O
With this kind of track you turn traction control off all its going to do I not let the car do what you want it to do
Nope. It's a 2.0-liter JDM Group-N Car.
rally driver vs. city driver!!
You should have kept it between 4400 and 6200 you were way to wide going into turns you looked more like you were test driving the car on the turns you didn't approach them correctly that should have been spitting out some dirt
You didn't turn off traction control, come on man!😹
Gimme the good angle YOU BIAS CAMERAMAN
You show footage with the him in front of the rally car while he is talking about looking for it in rear view mirror, he says he kept traction control, he drove like he was afraid to skid.
FAIL!
you realized you are racing an SUV meant for everyday driving against 1 of the 2 champion rally cars???
It’s meant for off roading actually
i wish they had a good driver for the test.
Yes, but who used the most fuel? Aha, got you one that one eh?
Probably used about the same.. When pushed to the limits cars often use the same amount of fuel, it's at slower pace day-to-day driving where you see milage difference. And let's say the XV was tasked to go as fast as it could and the STI only needed to keep up with it, then the STI would get the better milage. I know it's a bit odd to refer to Top Gear, but they did a really good test with a Prius and a BMW M3 where the M3 only had to keep up while the Prius had to go as fast around the track, and the M3 got way better milage.
Two types of drivers
Xv did good
This guy is a pro-driver? "Cmon traction control!" said no REAL pro-driver ever.
Not really,
Traction control?!?!?! Wtf are you doing?!?!?!??
what kind of stupid comparison is this?... put the pro in the XV and the other guy in the pro car and shut the traction control off... pull the fuse from the damn thing would be even better
why would you put a novice in the XV with the CVT? use a damn manual for crying out loud.
the cross trek isnt a rally car...
I got one for 10k
Yup i could have driven my 96 nonturbo legacy faster!
Bad video, the differences is between driver, not car.
The car can only do as much as the driver an they should've pit an experienced driver in the cross trek to be honest
The driver in the Crosstrek is a national autocross champion and rally driver.
Driving Sports TV can u put a different rally driver in the crosstrek an try again
my grandmother drives more aggressive than you.
This was the stupidest comparison test ever. I don't know why you needed skid plates, mud flaps, and rally tires to drive like grandma over little pebbles
Amateur driving
絵面的に苦しいな。走り方が違いすぎるし。
My 73 year old mother could drive faster in her Toyota RAV4. How can you call this channel "driving sports tv"? totally useless and close to no factual information. It's more or less a 40+ year old teenager trying to act out a old TopGear episode.
Whaaaa? That's terrible
this guy can't drive.
the xv is an embarrassment to subaru
With this kind of track you turn traction control off all its going to do I not let the car do what you want it to do