Bareshaft tuning can tell you a lot about your form. If bareshaft tuning is the same as broadhead tuning, then it is a valuable tool that doesn't destroy targets.
I have found that if I have a perfect bareshaft nock tuned arrow then my broadheads fly and hit to the same point as my field points. In the end it is all about getting your broadheads to fly good and hit the same as your field points so however you get there ivdont think it matters
Yea it definitely made a difference for me too. It especially helped when I did each individual arrow. It tightened my groups even more when I nock tuned and bareshaft tuned each arrow.
i bareshaft tune my bows so i know my arrows are flying the best they can and the vanes are not trying to correct them so much. i see bareshaft tuning as the next step after paper tuning . i have a hunting bow and a full Title 36 3D bow setup . if you shoot indoors its not that big of a issue but out closer 60+ yards it can play a part in how efficiently the arrows are traveling. i never had trouble getting an expandable to hit with a fieldpoint. id be curious what an solid fixed blade would do.
Bareshaft tuning gives a person a reliable place to start from. Since there are many different designed broadheads, you can get mixed flight results. Some broadheads just don't fly very well and it's good to start with a bareshaft to establish a datum point. Once a bow is tuned with a bareshaft, it doesn't make much sense to try to correct the flight of a poorly designed broadhead by detuning the bow. One needs to shoot several good quality broadheads and pic the broadheads that fly the best.
Been shooting a bow longer than you've been alive. Bare shaft tuning , done correctly, will solve most problems from arrow to form. Do what you want but I will always bare shaft tune. Try shooting at 5 yards and see how your arrows align in the target. If they aren't perfectly straight in it this is how they would hit an animal at close range. Really can affect penetration.
I like to bare shaft tune to check spine as well as rough in my rest/d-loop tune. I then broadhead tune. So perhaps my process is redundant, but I like it. Do what works best for you and your setup and most importantly, have fun with it!
From the physical perspective I believe a bare shaft will show evidence if the arrow is coming off the string in a straight path thus getting all the energy transferred. No deviation from the linear drive has to result in maximum repeatable accuracy. Adding vanes to control the flight changes created by broad heads. Larger bladed heads can create flight deviation but should not if the bow and arrow are in tune together. That’s why so many use small mechanical heads- not well tuned together. I 100% agree any bare shaft tuning is ONLY a start to the entire process if you choose to do it. I’ve determined over the years that spine checking and using that information to orient my arrow build. Lighter weight target shafts have thinner walls and the dynamic spine at the shot shows up if not spine aligned IMO. Even heavier walled shafts have spine variations I’ve discovered. Probably never enough to ever create flight issues with most hunting arrow builds. Unless you put 300+ grain broadhead on them,lol. Anyway, Douglas, well done video of your perspective on this optic. 👍👍👀👀👀👀👀👀
Bareshaft tuning gets the arrow leaving the bow as strait as possible. It’s not really impact point that your paying attention to, it’s the angle of the shaft when it sticks into the target. A fletched shaft always straitens out quickly, a bare shaft does not. You want fletched and bare shafts sticking into the target at the same angle. If your bare shaft is tail high compared to your fletched, move your knocking point down. If your bare shaft is tail left, move your rest to the right, (trad bow adjust spine or point weight.) Do this at 10 yards or less.
Paper tune an arrow with vanes to get a bullet hole then strip those vanes I can promise you their will be a rip in that paper if you start of paper tune bare shaft then the vanes will help steer that arrow so much better
Not enough space to start a debate here. Bareshaft tuning is very useful in many way. Between me and my buddy we tune well over 1000 bows a year and never get negative feedback. Mind you our process is different than most but it proves itself over and over. I can get a bareshaft tune and shoot a field tip and ironwill wide together at 70m. And a 4 blde slick trick Flys great in general so that's invalid
From a target view: Shure, on a tuned bow, all the arrows are gonna hit the same spot. How do you know it’s perfectly tuned? Paper-tuning? I have seen bullet holes on paper that flew like shit on camera. Bare-shaft tuning is the most correct way to tune your bow. You can correct a wrong tuned arrow with fletchings but it wont fly as effective as a perfectly bare-shaft tuned arrow. Every correction the vane has to do, takes speed and impact out of the arrow. On a incorrect tuned arrow, every mistake you make, the effect will double as on a correct tuned arrow that flys perfectly without vanes. Most people that don’t do it, are too lazy or don’t know how to bare shaft tune. Mostly all of them have an incorrect arrow tune and they don’t know it because vanes correct everything.
Like I said in the video I have never bareshaft tuned that bow…I have only gotten a perfect paper tune and got a perfect broadhead tuned out to 85 yards. Even without ever shooting a bareshaft through that bow, bareshafts still flew perfect and hit in the same spot when I filmed this video…so what are people really missing out on if they use a process like that and skip out on bareshaft tuning?
100% AGREE WITH YOU! I JUST HAD TO GO BACK TO A BARE SHAFT AND TUNE SO THAT MY BROADHEADS WOULD HIT THE SAME AS MY FIELD POINTS. THE SHOP TUNED MY BOW WITH A FLETCHED ARROW AND MY ARROW REST WAS OFF SO MY BROADHEADS WOULD NOT HIT THE SAME AS MY FIELD POINTS, UNTIL I FIXED IT.
@@joshuadouglasarchery easy answer: Depends on how you paper tune. Even if (and that is what the minority of people do) papertune from different distances, you don’t know what the fletchings are hiding. You have to be way out if tune so you can see it with a fletched shaft. To vast majority of people choose thier arrow via the easton spine chart, cut it 3/4 of an inch behind their rest, put fletchings on that arrow and shoot their sight in. Yes this is possible. Is it the a perfect tune? No way. Bareshaft tuning, nocktuning or group tuning, walkback tuning, torquetuning. That is the minimum to compete with the top guys in field or 3d archery. And why would you give up some of the energy you pull back? If you pull back 70lbs i damn shure want to transfer that energy in my arrow. Here in Germany we shoot World Archery most of the time and we have no speed limit but 60lbs poundage limit. So i want to get the maximum out of my 60 pounds. You shoot elite? Why wouldn’t you bare-shaft tune? Nothing easier than that with the SET System. Just because your bare shaft and fletched shaft hit at the same spot doesn’t mean that thats the rule all of the time. Try it again at 50 meters. Do they hit within 3inches? I don’t think so
@@joshuadouglasarchery they are saving targets. I bare shaft tune my hunting bow to 60 yds. then shoot 1 broadhead to confirm the impact. That is the only broadhead i ever shoot into foam. Targets and Broadhead blades are expensive. sharpening blades takes time and can be a pain. you state yourself that bare shaft and broadheads will hit the same which makes either method have the same effectiveness. one method dulls blades and ruins targets. the other doesn't.
In regards to target shooting Paige Pierce bare shafts to 50 yards she said, just saying what a world class archer does. Honestly! I’ve never taken the time to check spine and mark it nor bare shaft tune. I don’t know how much gained. I just get bullet holes in paper with any of my builds. That’s the staring point only IMO. THEN grouping is next at 20,30 & 40 on a calm day. I usually shoot at least separate days because we all know some days are better. I m interested in the arrows hitting behind the pin which they might not if your whole setup isn’t tuned together. I never take a one shooting session as the answer to sighting in and group tuning.
Of course they will fly the same if the setup is perfectly tuned. The problem is shootting broadheads from an untuned setup. So to avoid possible losing or damaging a complete hunting arrow, bare shafting is a way to get the setup tuned enough that the broadhead flight isn’t totally wonkers. Is bare shafting necessary, no. Is bare shafting a good method yes. But in the end, we are both only stating factual opinions 😂
@@joshuadouglasarchery well ya kinda have to shoot it to tune it. I mean it can be set to factory specs but factory specs doesn’t always shoot a bullet hole. I personally won’t touch a broadhead until I have either paper tuned or bare shafted as well as nock tuning with whichever method I use. I paper tune arrows that will never see a broadhead but I always bare shat my hunting arrows out to 40 yards. No reason to shoot a bare shaft that far but it’s fun to see a shaft without lift fly straight at distance. If the stick is flying straight the fletchings will have less work to do. Bare shafts are also a reflection of your form. If ya can’t get the stick to fly straight, it’s likely something in your form. After the bow is tuned with properly spined arrows, then yes, the shaft and fletched arrow will always group.
Woah there!! Quite a few people upset in these comments! Just in case you missed it in the video, I never said bare shaft tuning doesn’t work… My point is that it achieves the same thing as Broadhead tuning, and why would you tune your bow to an arrow that has no fletching and no broadhead when you could tune it to the arrow that you were going to hunt with? This also does not apply to traditional bows… I do not speak to those… This is just with compound bows
It's simple. A bareshaft doesn't destroy targets. Getting a bow perfectly tuned with a bareshaft will get you extremely close with a broadhead. It'll save your target from dozens of shots with a broadhead. Not to mention, a bareshaft is the ultimate indicator of good form, whereas a broadhead shows nothing but tune.
@@MrTheBurkes if you have bad form with a broadhead it will show…you can change your tune by having inconsistent form, which will make your broadhead hit different
@joshuadouglasarchery not to the same level as a bareshaft. Perfect bareshaft flight requires a correctly tuned bow and good form. There's nothing to alter the flight path like a fletched arrow.
Walk back tuning has always given me exact same results as bare shaft tuning actually walk back imo has done better for me in nearly every case. Eighter way good video good luck this season.
I shoot trad with wood arrows. I won’t bareshaft tune but I will after the fletching is on. There’s too many variables with wood and it’ll drive you nuts trying to bareshaft those. Plus, your form and release must be perfect. Yeah, good luck with that unless you have perfect form and release and you shoot 100 arrows daily. Not.
Bear chef tuning only matters when you are not shooting from the center of the bow traditional archers have what is called the archers paradox compound archers don’t have that
@@martinvanpamelen5756 i’m saying your arrows shoot straight out of center unless you guys move your rest out of center if you guys do have paradox, it is far less than a traditional bow, which means you can shoot a wider range of spines and really in your guises case your spine chart is really gonna depend on your weight of bow. You’re shooting can’t shoot us 700 spying off of a 75 pound bow. The arrow will explode that’s what the spines are for. They also do play a role in the archer Paradox, but it is far less prevalent in a compound the world then it is the, traditional bow I’m agreeing with you chef tuning for compound. Bows is useless.
No, MFJJ does bare shaft tune, i watched him do it with Tim Connor. Also, i just had to go back to bare shaft do get my broadheads to hit with field points! The shop I used tuned my bow with a fletched arrow! My arrow rest was off, so my broadheads shot to the left! Once I adjusted my bare shaft to hit straight at 20 yrds I was good to go with any broadhead. Watch Bow Only Outdoors, those young men have a few great video's. So, I just have to disagree on this one, with ya!
I appreciate the comment and constructive criticism, I think it’s all right to agree to disagree on this one! Bow only outdoors is great, glad those boys are in Nebraska with me!
great job young man spot on. im 57 have been an archer and bowhunter since 14 with help from a pro archer. too many young people today believe that if they buy a flagship bow they will be good. a load of bullshit being an archer trained well and knowing how to tune your bow regardless new flagship or not wins everytime. kudos to you young man
You need to learn how too bare shaft tune before you say it's useless! if you bare shaft tune you do not have too ding up all your broad heads and chew up your target. you just shoot one bare shaft and all your broad heads hit in the same place as your feid points! then you keep that bare shaft as a reference for if you ever need too move or change something on your bow. bare shaft tuning will also show if you have an arrow with the correct spine! the fletching on your arrow dose not make your arrow fly straight it "helps" it fly straight!, having the correct spined arrow for your bow is what makes your arrow fly straight. Bare shaft tuning is the first thing you should do if you are shooting new arrows or a new bow. bare shaft tuning a bow is not just one way to tune a bow it's the only way too tune a bow once you learn how!
Sorry but I know how to bareshaft tune…I think you’re mistaken on how arrow flight works based off some of this stuff in your comment. If you aren’t shooting with a broadhead you set aside for practice before you hunt you are asking for problems to occur in the field and make a bad shot on an animal
@@joshuadouglasarchery No i think you are the one who is mistaken on how arrow flight works if you think an arrow shot from a compound bow has no paradox?? Then what are the numbers on the side of your arrows for?? and i never said i did not test my brad heads for flight i said i don't broad head tune so get your story straight! saying bare shaft tuning is useless is one of the stupidest archery comments I have ever heard and really shows what level of archer you are! I have bucks on my wall, in a record book and in a magazine to prove what level archer/hunter I am. I don't need you to tell me!
@@martinvanpamelen5756 never said arrows don’t have paradox out of a compound bow. Can you tell me though how it is that I have a perfect bare shaft tune out to 40 yards with my broadheads, even though I have never bare shaft tuned this bow? Is it just luck?
@@martinvanpamelen5756 simply I can shoot from a victory VAP to a 2517 out of my center shot compound with a release dead straight maybe a little up or down, you're not going to do that with a recurve or longbow spine makes a huge difference weak nock left strong nock right because there's so many variants when you're shooting with fingers plucking the string or short drawing, you obviously never shot traditional
Im not watching the video...but if you are truly saying bareshaft tuning is wrong then you don't know anything and should stop posting videos. When my bow is bareshaft tuned i can shoot any broadhead even the biggest cutting ones out there.
Unreal guy don't watch video then wants to comment about something he has no clue of freaking crazy people say anything and says once he bareshafts he can shoot every fixed blade perfectly. I don't think so not happening😂
@@joshuadouglasarchery We bear shaft tune so we don't have to bend up our broad heads! you just shoot one bare shaft and all your broad heads fly the same as your feild points!
Ok... since it sounds like your just learning about BARE SHAFT TUNNING, the bare shaft will turn and hit on an ANGLE but still proceed in a LINEAR DIRECTION... a broad head will PLANE OFF COARSE and can MISS THE TARGET.... this is where BARE SHAFT TUNNING comes into play and show you if your tune is good enough to be able to shoot broad heads WITHOUT fear of possibly missing the target.....
Bareshaft tuning can tell you a lot about your form. If bareshaft tuning is the same as broadhead tuning, then it is a valuable tool that doesn't destroy targets.
I have found that if I have a perfect bareshaft nock tuned arrow then my broadheads fly and hit to the same point as my field points. In the end it is all about getting your broadheads to fly good and hit the same as your field points so however you get there ivdont think it matters
Same here never had my broad heads hit in the exact same place until i learned too bare shaft!
Yea it definitely made a difference for me too. It especially helped when I did each individual arrow. It tightened my groups even more when I nock tuned and bareshaft tuned each arrow.
i bareshaft tune my bows so i know my arrows are flying the best they can and the vanes are not trying to correct them so much. i see bareshaft tuning as the next step after paper tuning . i have a hunting bow and a full Title 36 3D bow setup . if you shoot indoors its not that big of a issue but out closer 60+ yards it can play a part in how efficiently the arrows are traveling. i never had trouble getting an expandable to hit with a fieldpoint. id be curious what an solid fixed blade would do.
Bareshaft tuning gives a person a reliable place to start from. Since there are many different designed broadheads, you can get mixed flight results. Some broadheads just don't fly very well and it's good to start with a bareshaft to establish a datum point. Once a bow is tuned with a bareshaft, it doesn't make much sense to try to correct the flight of a poorly designed broadhead by detuning the bow. One needs to shoot several good quality broadheads and pic the broadheads that fly the best.
Been shooting a bow longer than you've been alive. Bare shaft tuning , done correctly, will solve most problems from arrow to form. Do what you want but I will always bare shaft tune. Try shooting at 5 yards and see how your arrows align in the target. If they aren't perfectly straight in it this is how they would hit an animal at close range. Really can affect penetration.
Those are fair point! At the end of the day, anytime spent shooting is time spent well! Good luck this season
@@joshuadouglasarcheryhey, off topic. what lanyard are you using for your release?
@@vitosalvaggio1805 that’s just DIY, just some shock cord with a little tensioner on it!
I like to bare shaft tune to check spine as well as rough in my rest/d-loop tune. I then broadhead tune. So perhaps my process is redundant, but I like it.
Do what works best for you and your setup and most importantly, have fun with it!
Spot on! If you have a system that works and you don’t want to change, more power to you!! If you’re shooting your bow, you’re doing it right!!
From the physical perspective I believe a bare shaft will show evidence if the arrow is coming off the string in a straight path thus getting all the energy transferred. No deviation from the linear drive has to result in maximum repeatable accuracy. Adding vanes to control the flight changes created by broad heads. Larger bladed heads can create flight deviation but should not if the bow and arrow are in tune together. That’s why so many use small mechanical heads- not well tuned together. I 100% agree any bare shaft tuning is ONLY a start to the entire process if you choose to do it. I’ve determined over the years that spine checking and using that information to orient my arrow build. Lighter weight target shafts have thinner walls and the dynamic spine at the shot shows up if not spine aligned IMO. Even heavier walled shafts have spine variations I’ve discovered. Probably never enough to ever create flight issues with most hunting arrow builds. Unless you put 300+ grain broadhead on them,lol. Anyway, Douglas, well done video of your perspective on this optic. 👍👍👀👀👀👀👀👀
Bareshaft tuning gets the arrow leaving the bow as strait as possible. It’s not really impact point that your paying attention to, it’s the angle of the shaft when it sticks into the target. A fletched shaft always straitens out quickly, a bare shaft does not. You want fletched and bare shafts sticking into the target at the same angle. If your bare shaft is tail high compared to your fletched, move your knocking point down. If your bare shaft is tail left, move your rest to the right, (trad bow adjust spine or point weight.) Do this at 10 yards or less.
Paper tune an arrow with vanes to get a bullet hole then strip those vanes I can promise you their will be a rip in that paper if you start of paper tune bare shaft then the vanes will help steer that arrow so much better
But if I shoot a 12,374 grain arrow with 125% foc I can kill anything I want to without tuning or sighting in my bow
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said no one ever
Not enough space to start a debate here. Bareshaft tuning is very useful in many way. Between me and my buddy we tune well over 1000 bows a year and never get negative feedback. Mind you our process is different than most but it proves itself over and over. I can get a bareshaft tune and shoot a field tip and ironwill wide together at 70m. And a 4 blde slick trick Flys great in general so that's invalid
From a target view: Shure, on a tuned bow, all the arrows are gonna hit the same spot. How do you know it’s perfectly tuned? Paper-tuning? I have seen bullet holes on paper that flew like shit on camera. Bare-shaft tuning is the most correct way to tune your bow. You can correct a wrong tuned arrow with fletchings but it wont fly as effective as a perfectly bare-shaft tuned arrow. Every correction the vane has to do, takes speed and impact out of the arrow. On a incorrect tuned arrow, every mistake you make, the effect will double as on a correct tuned arrow that flys perfectly without vanes.
Most people that don’t do it, are too lazy or don’t know how to bare shaft tune. Mostly all of them have an incorrect arrow tune and they don’t know it because vanes correct everything.
Like I said in the video I have never bareshaft tuned that bow…I have only gotten a perfect paper tune and got a perfect broadhead tuned out to 85 yards. Even without ever shooting a bareshaft through that bow, bareshafts still flew perfect and hit in the same spot when I filmed this video…so what are people really missing out on if they use a process like that and skip out on bareshaft tuning?
100% AGREE WITH YOU! I JUST HAD TO GO BACK TO A BARE SHAFT AND TUNE SO THAT MY BROADHEADS WOULD HIT THE SAME AS MY FIELD POINTS. THE SHOP TUNED MY BOW WITH A FLETCHED ARROW AND MY ARROW REST WAS OFF SO MY BROADHEADS WOULD NOT HIT THE SAME AS MY FIELD POINTS, UNTIL I FIXED IT.
@@joshuadouglasarchery easy answer:
Depends on how you paper tune. Even if (and that is what the minority of people do) papertune from different distances, you don’t know what the fletchings are hiding. You have to be way out if tune so you can see it with a fletched shaft. To vast majority of people choose thier arrow via the easton spine chart, cut it 3/4 of an inch behind their rest, put fletchings on that arrow and shoot their sight in. Yes this is possible. Is it the a perfect tune? No way. Bareshaft tuning, nocktuning or group tuning, walkback tuning, torquetuning. That is the minimum to compete with the top guys in field or 3d archery.
And why would you give up some of the energy you pull back? If you pull back 70lbs i damn shure want to transfer that energy in my arrow. Here in Germany we shoot World Archery most of the time and we have no speed limit but 60lbs poundage limit. So i want to get the maximum out of my 60 pounds. You shoot elite? Why wouldn’t you bare-shaft tune? Nothing easier than that with the SET System. Just because your bare shaft and fletched shaft hit at the same spot doesn’t mean that thats the rule all of the time. Try it again at 50 meters. Do they hit within 3inches? I don’t think so
100% correct!
@@joshuadouglasarchery they are saving targets. I bare shaft tune my hunting bow to 60 yds. then shoot 1 broadhead to confirm the impact. That is the only broadhead i ever shoot into foam. Targets and Broadhead blades are expensive. sharpening blades takes time and can be a pain. you state yourself that bare shaft and broadheads will hit the same which makes either method have the same effectiveness. one method dulls blades and ruins targets. the other doesn't.
Totally agree with you, I always end up bare shafting anyways due to convenience.
I have to admit… It is pretty convenient just using a bare shaft… Wait, I forgot we’re talking archery
Its archery, everyone has an opinion. Important thing is we are all tuning our bows the best we can.
In regards to target shooting Paige Pierce bare shafts to 50 yards she said, just saying what a world class archer does. Honestly! I’ve never taken the time to check spine and mark it nor bare shaft tune. I don’t know how much gained. I just get bullet holes in paper with any of my builds. That’s the staring point only IMO. THEN grouping is next at 20,30 & 40 on a calm day. I usually shoot at least separate days because we all know some days are better. I m interested in the arrows hitting behind the pin which they might not if your whole setup isn’t tuned together. I never take a one shooting session as the answer to sighting in and group tuning.
Of course they will fly the same if the setup is perfectly tuned. The problem is shootting broadheads from an untuned setup. So to avoid possible losing or damaging a complete hunting arrow, bare shafting is a way to get the setup tuned enough that the broadhead flight isn’t totally wonkers. Is bare shafting necessary, no. Is bare shafting a good method yes. But in the end, we are both only stating factual opinions 😂
My only question would be why are you settling for an untuned bow?
@@joshuadouglasarchery well ya kinda have to shoot it to tune it. I mean it can be set to factory specs but factory specs doesn’t always shoot a bullet hole. I personally won’t touch a broadhead until I have either paper tuned or bare shafted as well as nock tuning with whichever method I use. I paper tune arrows that will never see a broadhead but I always bare shat my hunting arrows out to 40 yards. No reason to shoot a bare shaft that far but it’s fun to see a shaft without lift fly straight at distance. If the stick is flying straight the fletchings will have less work to do. Bare shafts are also a reflection of your form. If ya can’t get the stick to fly straight, it’s likely something in your form. After the bow is tuned with properly spined arrows, then yes, the shaft and fletched arrow will always group.
Woah there!!
Quite a few people upset in these comments! Just in case you missed it in the video, I never said bare shaft tuning doesn’t work… My point is that it achieves the same thing as Broadhead tuning, and why would you tune your bow to an arrow that has no fletching and no broadhead when you could tune it to the arrow that you were going to hunt with?
This also does not apply to traditional bows… I do not speak to those… This is just with compound bows
It's simple.
A bareshaft doesn't destroy targets. Getting a bow perfectly tuned with a bareshaft will get you extremely close with a broadhead. It'll save your target from dozens of shots with a broadhead. Not to mention, a bareshaft is the ultimate indicator of good form, whereas a broadhead shows nothing but tune.
@@MrTheBurkes if you have bad form with a broadhead it will show…you can change your tune by having inconsistent form, which will make your broadhead hit different
@joshuadouglasarchery not to the same level as a bareshaft. Perfect bareshaft flight requires a correctly tuned bow and good form. There's nothing to alter the flight path like a fletched arrow.
Walk back tuning has always given me exact same results as bare shaft tuning actually walk back imo has done better for me in nearly every case. Eighter way good video good luck this season.
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This comment gives me more of an excuse to use Zelda and Skyrim music in my background
I shoot trad with wood arrows. I won’t bareshaft tune but I will after the fletching is on. There’s too many variables with wood and it’ll drive you nuts trying to bareshaft those. Plus, your form and release must be perfect. Yeah, good luck with that unless you have perfect form and release and you shoot 100 arrows daily. Not.
I can’t imagine the headache tubing trad bows would cause me! You’re a better man that me!
I shoot a trad bow and i can hit out too 30 yards with a bare shaft and it flies like it has fletching on it!
Bear chef tuning only matters when you are not shooting from the center of the bow traditional archers have what is called the archers paradox compound archers don’t have that
Comound archers have paradox or all arrows would be the same spine what are you talking about?
@@martinvanpamelen5756 i’m saying your arrows shoot straight out of center unless you guys move your rest out of center if you guys do have paradox, it is far less than a traditional bow, which means you can shoot a wider range of spines and really in your guises case your spine chart is really gonna depend on your weight of bow. You’re shooting can’t shoot us 700 spying off of a 75 pound bow. The arrow will explode that’s what the spines are for. They also do play a role in the archer Paradox, but it is far less prevalent in a compound the world then it is the, traditional bow I’m agreeing with you chef tuning for compound. Bows is useless.
No, MFJJ does bare shaft tune, i watched him do it with Tim Connor. Also, i just had to go back to bare shaft do get my broadheads to hit with field points! The shop I used tuned my bow with a fletched arrow! My arrow rest was off, so my broadheads shot to the left! Once I adjusted my bare shaft to hit straight at 20 yrds I was good to go with any broadhead. Watch Bow Only Outdoors, those young men have a few great video's. So, I just have to disagree on this one, with ya!
I appreciate the comment and constructive criticism, I think it’s all right to agree to disagree on this one! Bow only outdoors is great, glad those boys are in Nebraska with me!
Seems like someone’s out to debunk RF
great job young man spot on. im 57 have been an archer and bowhunter since 14 with help from a pro archer. too many young people today believe that if they buy a flagship bow they will be good. a load of bullshit being an archer trained well and knowing how to tune your bow regardless new flagship or not wins everytime. kudos to you young man
I appreciate it!!
You need to learn how too bare shaft tune before you say it's useless! if you bare shaft tune you do not have too ding up all your broad heads and chew up your target. you just shoot one bare shaft and all your broad heads hit in the same place as your feid points! then you keep that bare shaft as a reference for if you ever need too move or change something on your bow. bare shaft tuning will also show if you have an arrow with the correct spine! the fletching on your arrow dose not make your arrow fly straight it "helps" it fly straight!, having the correct spined arrow for your bow is what makes your arrow fly straight. Bare shaft tuning is the first thing you should do if you are shooting new arrows or a new bow. bare shaft tuning a bow is not just one way to tune a bow it's the only way too tune a bow once you learn how!
Sorry but I know how to bareshaft tune…I think you’re mistaken on how arrow flight works based off some of this stuff in your comment. If you aren’t shooting with a broadhead you set aside for practice before you hunt you are asking for problems to occur in the field and make a bad shot on an animal
@@joshuadouglasarchery No i think you are the one who is mistaken on how arrow flight works if you think an arrow shot from a compound bow has no paradox?? Then what are the numbers on the side of your arrows for?? and i never said i did not test my brad heads for flight i said i don't broad head tune so get your story straight! saying bare shaft tuning is useless is one of the stupidest archery comments I have ever heard and really shows what level of archer you are! I have bucks on my wall, in a record book and in a magazine to prove what level archer/hunter I am. I don't need you to tell me!
@@martinvanpamelen5756 never said arrows don’t have paradox out of a compound bow. Can you tell me though how it is that I have a perfect bare shaft tune out to 40 yards with my broadheads, even though I have never bare shaft tuned this bow? Is it just luck?
Tell me you watch the RF without telling me you watch the RF
Brother, if you think I’m a ranch ferry fan, this is clearly the first video you’ve seen of mine
I'd say that he watches mfjj.. Since his take is also that if you're going to broadhead tune anyway, why waste time also bareshaft tuning.
@@ecrank83 just a common sense fan
someone else that agrees with me that it's a joke thank you
What is a joke?
It's useless with a compound but it's rather important with the longbow or recurve
Totally agree!
Say what???
@@martinvanpamelen5756 simply I can shoot from a victory VAP to a 2517 out of my center shot compound with a release dead straight maybe a little up or down, you're not going to do that with a recurve or longbow spine makes a huge difference weak nock left strong nock right because there's so many variants when you're shooting with fingers plucking the string or short drawing, you obviously never shot traditional
Im not watching the video...but if you are truly saying bareshaft tuning is wrong then you don't know anything and should stop posting videos. When my bow is bareshaft tuned i can shoot any broadhead even the biggest cutting ones out there.
It would fly the same if you just broadhead tuned…which you would’ve heard if you watched the video… but hey just hate I guess
Unreal guy don't watch video then wants to comment about something he has no clue of freaking crazy people say anything and says once he bareshafts he can shoot every fixed blade perfectly. I don't think so not happening😂
@@joshuadouglasarchery We bear shaft tune so we don't have to bend up our broad heads! you just shoot one bare shaft and all your broad heads fly the same as your feild points!
Ok... since it sounds like your just learning about BARE SHAFT TUNNING, the bare shaft will turn and hit on an ANGLE but still proceed in a LINEAR DIRECTION... a broad head will PLANE OFF COARSE and can MISS THE TARGET.... this is where BARE SHAFT TUNNING comes into play and show you if your tune is good enough to be able to shoot broad heads WITHOUT fear of possibly missing the target.....