No more 5EAT for our Outback XT (STI 6 Speed Prep!)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- It's a new year, and it's time to get back to work on our projects. This time around we have Chewie our 2005 Subaru Outback XT back in the garage removing the level 10 built 5EAT to be used in our Legacy. At the same time, we are prepping the Outback by removing other components, so we can move forward on the STI 6 speed swap easier in the future!
In upcoming videos we will be swapping this transmission into the legacy so we can take it to Josh at BaderBuilt and use all the boost this 20g is capable of!
As always, I hope you guys enjoy my video, Like and subscribe to keep up to date on more future videos!
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keep up the content!
Dang bro, Thank you! Much appreciated, brotha 🙏🙏
The Thing was Heavy AF
We need to go to the gym. 🤣
That transmission owes me a new creeper. 😭
You guys have great content… I feel like I’m listening to Bob Ross work on Subarus over here…. I’m guessing why you didn’t get how you got that from underneath your car in the video is because the Pope himself would probably cringe at the profanity coming forth…lol
@Zachary Moore 🤣 yeah it was a little bit of people don't need to hear this and a little bit of we probably don't need this on video if something goes wildly wrong 🤣🤣
I really like the annotations on the timelapse, and really the general use to give more context to what you're doing. It seemed like a small thing at first but I am really growing to appreciate the thought you put into communicating this stuff. Great work!
Thanks man, keeps me doing what I do 🙏 it's definitely an extra step in the editing process, but I like having all the additional context there, so it's more involved for you guys 👌👌
I second this motion although sometimes I could use the text being up there an extra second or two. I just learn to rewind and pause.
Congrats on the 6 speed, I'm surprise the 5EAT was able to hold up 400 to wheels without breaking. I have this love/hate with the 6spd Spec B, I love drivin it, but hate getting caught in traffic especially passing through Kent - down to Auburn area.
Nice to see more Chewie content. I saw the same front bumper you have, damn that's pricy asf.
Thanks man, yeah, It's done really well with the exception of the flex plate exploding, which I may have to figure out something for if it happens again, but we'll push it more and try some things out on this next setup.
Yeah, bumper has become pretty hard to find nowadays, but they normally go for around 6 to 800 if they can be located. Tried for one for a couple years and got lucky on it.
@@MatlasDI Right on brotha! 🤙The XT just looks absolutely amazing, cant wait to see more especially now with 6spd. That's a killer!
Found a silver one for 1160 at subieparts, while lookin for a jdm spec b bumper and some rear spats.
@Jay C dang, going up in price, it sounds like. I don't think there are a whole lot left. Makes me feel a little worse about chopping mine up, but far future plans I'd like to modify it more, make a mold, and do something like a carbon one-off version of it.
Legacy seriously needs some spats and things. Aside from what's under the hood that car is basically all stock and high mileage, so lots of future content to make on it.
As someone who has swapped an outback before hes not kidding those are HEAVY
So heavy lol glad I won't be doing one again for a while 🤣
@@MatlasDIhey Matias how can we contact you do you have a email
watching this was hilarious, I wish I had more car friends to do silly ass shit with as we struggle with car things.
It definitely makes it a little easier to deal with something going wrong when you can BS and laugh about it.
Watching all the videos from the beginning and man everything has come so far! Love the content! Searching for that 14 and those high pitched voices had me rollin hahahaha
Thanks man, we're getting there 😄🤙
I used 5eat tg8 from 2010sti for about 7 years on my forester. It broke the planetary body of the 2th-3rd gear after we raise power more than 500hp. Before power was plus/minus 400 for a long time. In Novosibirsk one man made less 9 sec on quatter on tgc7 on kis SG fxt. This is a good gearbox but you need a good cooling, tuned valvebody and torque converter from 3.6 tribeca. I bought 130doll a reserve gearbox from lgt tg5d7. But a tg5c7 is much more reliable because its simplicity. I can't use it according to CAN
Dang. That is a lot of info.. good to know. I'd be interested to see where this unit would fail at. Had zero issues pushing 460 torque through it, but it has an upgraded vb, high stall converter and built internals. Ran a cooler as well, but I would set it up differently this next time around and use a thermostat piece to not overcool it and let it warm up properly. Don't know what they could possibly do to beef up the planetary body, though. Coolest thing I've done so far is completely shattered a flex plate. 😆
cinder block the rear tires with e break on. Then just jack up the front as high as you can to drag it out from the front. It's not the best way but it does work on a e46 5l40e anyway might work with this.
That is a good idea. This car was difficult to lift in general, because the front subframe jack point was cut out previously to fit a bs oil pan. I may have to do this idea when we try to swap it into the legacy. 👌👌
Yeeeeshh! Hurts my spine just looking at it
Where the chiropractors at?? 🤣🤣
Thanks for video, manual swap the world!
Yusss. I'm still contemplating even trying to get this in the legacy. 😅
@@MatlasDI glutton for punishment!
@superbike155 If I only do annoying things at some point, I'll only be left with fun stuff 🤣🤣
Im in washington state also, not too far away from you guys
I mean the ez30 is way more fun if you get after market headers and intake and tune
They can be pretty cool 😉
Dude I feel like a lot of car work has moments like these! You go to walk away and then turn a 180 with a renewed vigour. Haha great to see you enjoying the lows with Tanner. Two peas in a pod.
100% lol. I was about to walk away from that thing and then said screw it, it's getting done tonight, or never 🤣 thanks man
I have a hydraulic transmission jack if you want to barrow it, I'm local just need it back by the night of the 14th. You would want to get the transmission under the car first the put it on the jack. If you roll it on the side you should be able to slide it in and out easier
Good info man. May take you up on that, don't know how soon we'll do the swap, need to check solenoids and swap them out first. 👌👌
Love you guys! Dying for a 6 speed swap on my ‘06 LGT wagon need bigger bakes too!
Thanks man 😁 need to upgrade on my legacy as well. Slowly collecting parts here and there 🤙
Looks like a tight squeeze to work with, but do-able good thing you had the quick jacks. The frustrations must have been frequent. Especially if 1 or a few proper tools are missing. Buts still holy shit dude. Transmission swaps at home are a battle sometimes lol. Respects👍🏼.
Yeah, this was super annoying. lol I'm glad we could get it out, and the sketch work is done. I think the quickjacks don't lift high enough either, so we're going to have to plan some things out for the swap into the legacy. Thank as always bro 🙏
Does this make you happy?
That would be a pain to get out for sure. Good luck with Mittens!
It makes me feel things, but I don't know if happy is one of them 🤣🤣 thanks brotha 👌👌
Built 5eat, yeah i'd love it
Thinking I'll still be using it for the legacy, just had to get over the frustration of getting it out.. lol
That trans has to be heavy as hell 😀 i had a friends' 98 outback auto out once and that was a major pain as well; I can only imagine they get heavier and crappier to deal with. Good work dude, keep it up!
Yeah, out of all the transmissions I've pulled on subarus, this was noticeably heavier by a large margin 😅 appreciate it man 🙏
You are a beast to do this without a lift.
Thanks man 😅 was very interesting.
Yeah, AT are wayyy heavy. Glad you guys managed it without coming away missing a limb.
Yeah no missing limbs, just a couple brain cells 🤣
That's going to be awesome with a 6 speed. You need Quick Jacks as much as you work on cars.
Seriously.. as much as I love Jack Stands... I don't love them at all. 🤣 it would make customer jobs much easier as well, having a set available at any time.
Good work getting that badboy out, the struggle was real for sure. But you did it!
😄 I almost didn't, and then I decided I really didn't want the outback stuck in the air forever 😂 thanks Walter 👌
Looking forward to seeing what you do to Margaret's racecar!
Final chapter = find Margaret (pray she's still alive) and force her to drive it.. 🤣🤣
Sick! I also plan on swapping my legacy with a complete STI 6 speed by this summer before subiefest but since urs is auto do you have to make a custom transmission carrier for ur legacy like people say? Btw ur outback is so sick! Keep up the build!
Thanks man, appreciate it! Yeah, it's pretty simple to modify, you use the front and center support from a manual, and the rear support from the 5EAT, and then either lengthen the center support section, or make an adapter plate to bolt them together with.
Double win on the day. You got the tranny out and Pittsburgh jack stands didn’t kill you.
Yeah, saying I was uncomfortable about that is an understatement. I hate putting a car completely in the air on jack stands, and for this, I had to jack it up even higher while it was on them, which I wasn't about. I really miss working in an actual shop. Hopefully, soon, I'll at least have a set of quickjacks to use, and things will be a little less sketch.
Let’s gooooo bro it seems like it’s been forever since you last uploaded
Yeah, it's been a bit. I have been working on other things recently, but we're gonna keep things going 👌
@@MatlasDI hell yea man you know I’m peepin the vids
Fuck yeah, Chewie content!!!
Manuals for life! Would have been so much easier with the quick Jacks
I seriously need to get some money and pick up a set. Lots of random things both cars need to go in the air for. 😅
You sure it's super heavy? I can't tell with the zooming in and out. I can't tell without a proper viewing angle. 😂
Good video man, love the banter between you and Tanner.
Thanks man 👌 yeah I lost my mind for a little bit there 😅
Need a video of you reinstalling that cusco subframe brace
Probably make a short on it 😅
@@MatlasDI would definitely help alot not really any videos on how to install any of the cusco braces on our legacy/outbacks
@ACID MIKE true true. I should be getting most of these or similar for Mittens, so I'll definitely make it happen 👌
@@MatlasDI ives been looking at the cusco rear lower arm bars and the subframe brace also been looking at the avo rear sway mount reinforcement but can't find anything about how to install them
@ACID MIKE for the most part, most of those items you remove the bolts at the points they attach at and reinstall, but yeah I will be picking those up in time, so I'll be sure to make an install on them
Best of luck bro , I'm thinking to buy a legacy & have same idea to change Auto to Manual.
They aren't too bad to do, the most confusing part is wiring, unless you're going stand alone, which is the route I'm going on this car. I've chatted with a few people who say it's actually not as many steps as people thing with wiring, so I may chat with them again if the legacy gets swapped in the future as well.
@@MatlasDI bro You & @smeedia with almost basic equipment doing amazing job hope one day I can do 10% of your effort, god bless 🙌🏼♥️
@@rustom1981 definitely can man just keep at it, thank you 🙏
Go rent trans jack from auto store to put back in
Good info !!!
Thanks buddy 👌
Excellent to know. I have a stage 2 IAG half block sitting at pia going into an 05 gt wagon which I was going to upgrade everything for about 350 wheel. I think I'll wait and do the sti 6 speed. Ugh. This is expensive. Is the sti worth it or is the spec b a better option?
I would say comes down to if you want the dccd and close gear ratio, or would prefer a longer more even ratio. I think the spec b can be a desirable swap for daily driving. Longer gears give better mpg cruising, and less stuff to deal with, not to mention it is the cheaper of the two routes.
I'll give you $5 and a cookie for the transmission. But it'll be oatmeal raisin.
Jokes on you bro, I LIKE oatmeal raisin 😉
@@MatlasDI Same tbh 😆
@@foxunfocused 🤣🤣
Happy new year! Keep killin’ it!
Thanks man 🙏 🙏 happy new year 😊
Another good build to watch! Smeedia recommendation ftw
Yup yupp, thanks, my guy 🫶
@@MatlasDI no prob!! I got some catching up to do.
Just recently found your channel from your hood vent video and been really liking your stuff! I've got an '06 Outback non-XT that I've been slowly modifying and racing in autocross. Would you have any tips for better performance for a non-XT 2.5i?
Hey man, sorry, comment flew under the radar. Non xt, there isn't a ton you can do to improve things power wise without spending more money than I think it would be worth. I think it would be more beneficial to work on the suspension and chassis stuff to get a better feel for things, that way if you decided to switch to an xt you could always direct swap parts over in the future.
Hey does this mean mittens is getting a 6 speed swap too? That would be sick, ill follow along closely
If I can find another one for a steal, then definitely. It will get this built 5eat for now, so we have both spectrums covered. I'd like to find out how much I can max this built 5eat out at prior to a swap. 👌
@@MatlasDI sounds like a good plan, I'll be sure to stay tuned
Forgot to say: hello from Bonney lake.
Right in our neck of the woods 👌👌
You should remove the converter first. Cuz that thin weight like 100 pounds
Yeah they're pretty heavy. I had left it on due to not wanting to potentially damage the clip or seal, but it would have probably helped a decent amount taking it off.
Sick video I’m so hyped for chewie to get a 6 speed! What wheels are you running in Chewie I like them
Thanks man 👌 they're WedSport TC105x's
Come out of the dungeon. We need more videos of this. I hope you're doing okay.
I'm seriously interested. Do you still have it? I'm in bonney lake. Mine blew 4th and 5th gear
I've been thinking about a manual swap in my lgt for a while. My 5eat is on its last legs but damn this looks like a pain.
Wasn't the most enjoyable thing I've done on the car 😅 I think if you had a lift that could get it high enough to use a transmission jack, it would be worlds easier. I unfortunately don't 🥲
😂😂😂😂 this was funny as sht not gonna lie, LMAO. That's one B.O.B 🤣🤣🤣
😆 she's huuuuge. That thing was a struggle!
@@MatlasDI I could feel the struggle thru the video 🤣🤣🤣 the funny voices made it so much better tho. I was dying laughing
Hi Matt, love what you have done to the outback. I have the 06 same color. Can you tell me what erra sti six speeds will work? And what are the biggest rims, width wise that will fit? Look forward to seeing how that bad boy performs when your done!!! Keep up the great work!
Thanks man 🙏 you can use any year six speed; just need to make sure you get a rear diff that matches the ratio. There is a nice master thread on legacygt.com that goes over all the additional parts needed as well. Wheel size all depends on setup, we make them fit if we have to, but I would say biggest issue you run into on these chassis' when going wider is the rear trailing arm making contact with the inside wheel/ tire. I currently run an 18x9.5 +45 which required a 5mm spacer to just barely clear the trailing arm. Might be able to get an 18x10+32 in there, but likely would have some poke without running excessive amounts of camber. I'll use a 275 on this setup when I purchase tires again, so it fits what I need it to. 👌
Thanks Matt for your time, information and wisdom! Love the work You and Tanner do!
That thing is probably as heavy as your long block or more. Thx for the laugh that looked like an epic pain
Yessir 👌 I can muscle a 6 speed. This thing, I can't even lift half of it, so idk, way heavier than I was expecting.
This is my strong hand, who’s Margaret 😂
DANG IT MARGARET! WHY YOU DO THIS!
@@MatlasDI because her name is Margaret. 😂😂🤫
Maybe hit up josh and ask him nicely if you can use his lift. Why I don’t like auto trans
Yeah, they are not fun. I would definitely hit him up, but they're on the other side of the state, around 5 hours away. 😅
Going to crunch some ideas to make the next steps a little easier, and safer lol 👌
@@MatlasDI do you think you can use tanner quick jack and try and get two jacks one in the back and in the front and try to lift it that way or make something with wood to put it under and lift it that way 🤷🏼♂️ I believe in you.
@@ryanjohnson8581 I think they should be free by then, so we should have some options to try out. 👌 thanks man
Them things suck ass. I had a IPT Valvebody for my LGT and it went to shit quick . I have a JDM 5EAT sitting here with low miles and ended up buying a 08 Spec B 6spd Swap instead . So I'll be in the process of doing the same but I do heavy duty Harbor Freight trans jack that tilts left or right ,forward or reclined back to help get it in placed and angled to mate up to engine.
That's what I'll likely look at picking up to make things easier. Makes me think most of the companies that do builds don't inspect or do anything sbout the valve body solenoids themselves. That's why I recommend only sending in a new valve body for modification, as I had nothing but issues when they modified mine. I'll be swapping just the solenoids so we'll see if that fixes the issues, either way holding power wise I hav3nt had issues with mine yet.
Hey there, to lower the OBXT, do you just swap to coilovers for legacy?
Or you recommend to swap all bunch of those little parts from the LGT(bushing, contorl arms, bolt...etc or even the drive shaft and steering universal joint) for keeping the right geometry like they said?
You can do either. The right way would be the second option you mentioned along with removing the subframe spacers. On the outback I swapped it to legacy geometry. I would recommend to do it that way if you plan to have the vehicle align and handle appropriately.
@@MatlasDI Thanks man, I would try to figure this out.
Do you know where I could find a parts list for gathering right things that I need?
@motographer9657 if you search on subaru legacy forums for converting to legacy geometry, it should have all the info and part numbers on there, otherwise if you are on discord you can join the smeedia discord and shoot me over a message and I can round it up for you 🤙
@@MatlasDI I'll do some research first.
Appreciate it!
@MatlasDI hey cool swap but how did you get the 5 lug conversion done to accept the Brembos? And what axles did you use?
No change to the factory lugs, bearings, etc. I have a video on the brembo swap which uses hybrid rotors for 04/05, and rears that have an inner diameter for the obxt ebrake shoes.
@@MatlasDI 😎. I’m gonna check out this video. I want to do the brembo swap but only have the dba rear rotors and brake shoes for this swap.
@@MatlasDI my OBXT is 4 X 100 lugs. Will the STI knuckle work on the OBXT?
@@MatlasDI so you kept the 5 x 100 bolt pattern.
Hey there Matt! Saw the vid with you and Tanner having your six speed built. Did you end up totally rebuilding the six speed? What year tranny did you end up with? Did you change the stock gearing? Not sure to ho with a 07 or newer. Any thoughts?
Mine was from a 2020 sti, it only had around 9k miles on it and just needed a 4th gear synchro. They newer models have brass 4th through 6th so we swapped for the carbon lined ones from prior to 08. It's getting harder to get diffs now that match the older styles, so I would just keep that in mind. Ideally if you're not opening things up you'd want a unit with the carbon synchro, but if you have someone that will replace those you can go with any year range. I'd just try to get a matching diff to go with and keep that in mind.
Nice! Pretty cool most all of the era six speed will work! Are you going to have to do any kind of additional wiring from the automatic to the manual? Trans wiring, clutch etc? Or is all the wiring already there? Also how about the newer model trans, will the wiring harness work or will you have to swap it for the same era? Most importantly, when's your next video coming out??? Thanks Matt!
The outback will be switching to a haltech system so i can have better control over things. Normally, we would have to tap for neutral switch and do a few other weird things like flashing to a manual rom, but most of the pin outs are there. And it's just swapping or splicing some things over. We've been working hard on the wrx, so I've held off on my stuff to help out with that so we can both get to the tune next week, but I'll be filming swapping the 5eats today and tomorrow which should have me ready for the tune, and then some good updates coming up. I'm hoping I'll have one filmed and up by Monday, but if not, I'll do a live with a channel update. 👌
Engine hoist the front end up and
Slide her out the front
We've done this when we've pulled 5 and 6 speeds, just got a little worried with the weight of it on the pitch stop mount, which is a bit thinner than the mounts on the 6 speeds.
@@MatlasDI I engine hoist’d the car not the tranny when I pull my the auto out of my donor car.
Ps I also broke my creeper when I used it out slide out the tranny.
@Logan Boswell ah, gotcha. Yeah I don't know of a strong enough section up front that wouldn't potentially deform. Poor creepers 🤣
@@MatlasDI crossmember and strap.
Keep up the great content and can’t wait to see six speed swap vids. I need to six speed swap my sf5
@@loganboswell700 that's a good idea. 👍 thanks man 🙏
Looking for a 1 piece driveshaft for 05 legacy gt with 5 speed. Can find for automatic but not standard. What am I missing ? I’m new to Subaru game.
I believe driveshaft shop has discontinued the pre-built manual versions. You should still be able to contract them for a custom length one made to spec. I personally leave the 2 piece driveshafts even on higher hp builds, the tunnel gets a little tight, and I've seen clearance issues come into play, as well as weird nvh issues from them.
Will you be adding a double din radios in the future?
The legacy had a jdm double din console coming for it, but they delivered it to the wrong address on the other side of the country.. but yes, when they decide to figure that out we should be throwing one in.
@@MatlasDI dame that sucks. I’ve got the same 05 obxt and really liking your mods!
@Skrappie-1 yeah it was pretty lame lol. Thanks man. Hope to get back to working on it soon. 🙏
Do you still have the 5eat????
😁👍🏻👍🏻
👌👌 let's go 😁
When 75% of your curb weight is the trans
Dude.. for real. Tanner joked that when we took the engine out, my car still looked like it had one in it. With the transmission out, it finally looks like something is up 😂
Why am I envisioning the car in a wheelie position getting that thing from out of there....
Hahaha. Didn't have to go to that extent, but a lot of back and forth getting the car higher and higher each time. Felt very sketch. 🤣
How can I get the front body kit like yours?
It's a modified jdm sports option bumper, they are pretty hard to come by, but I got mine off of mysubieparts.com Ruslan is a huge help with getting random one off stuff.
Shwwwwwooooooo
😁👌 awhhh yeah
Turn it on its side
Definitely an option, I kept it upright to not dump any more fluid out of it, but it may make it a little thinner. It's just a bit of a pain with the big rectangular oil pan.
@@MatlasDI put it on cardboard then tip and pull cardboard
@CWW-tv it's out now, but I'll have to swap some solenoids that have stuck since before it was built, and then work on getting it into the legacy. Fun times 😅
Do you still have it? I need one for my 08 xt.
The built 5eat went into my legacy, but I do have the legacy's stock 5eat, diff and axles.
will it fit in a flat rate box ?
Maybe 2 or 3.. 😂 I can number them if requested 🤣
TIL its not my problem if I sell it or give it away.
How well was the 5eat holding up? You mentioned it was built, what have to done to the 5eat?
Haha exaaaaactly 🤣
@William Bryant the 5eat is a level 10 custom build. Valve body is modified, front pump is ported and reworked, has upgraded clutchpacks that are stronger with additional disks, they upgraded the diff bearing per request, and modified the torque converter to be a high stall unit. There are some other "things" they do internally, but they don't really go into detail on what exactly it is. He had said this was their 800hp option. I highly doubt it will hold that, but it'd be fun to test in the future.
What driveshaft are you running for the sti trans
Either a spec b or have a custom one made. Think a 4eat works as well, iirc.
@@MatlasDI I picked a up a complete 05 sti 6sp swap for my 05 legacy gt. I’ll probably swap in early may. I’ll hunt down a drive shaft. I thought the 05 sti driveshaft would have been the same
Yeah, unfortunately from what i understand, length and center bearing mounting are a little different. Depending on the swap components the rear diff yoke connection may have to get changed as well. They have a 6 speed swap thread on legacygt.com that goes over a lot of the little bits and pieces.
www.legacygt.com/topic/53783-6mt-master-swap-thread/
How do i get in touch about the built tranny
We chatted and we are going to keep it to swap into the legacy, just had to blow off some steam between pulling it. There are a few things I needed to fix on it anyway, so wouldn't have felt right selling it not at 100%.
@@MatlasDI no worries I'm doing a daily legacy build too also in a wagon just did a type ra block, so if you ever decide not get rid of it even if it's not 100 percent I'm with it i don't mind
@Emilio Lopez yup yupp, sounds good man 👍
Take cherry pick pick ur front up and slide tranny out
Both very good options. We will get it done 👌👌