Our Legacy GT hits the Dyno w/ Bader! (Green-Speed Compliant/ 20G Build)
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- This is the video we've been waiting to make.
Getting our Green-speed compliant Cobb 20G Legacy GT build to the dyno to get tuned by non-other than Josh of Bader Built Racing. The end result surprised us, and the built 5eat is doing incredibly well!
There's also a ton of BTS stuff, Tanner's WRX build getting tuned which is running our old turbo for Chewie, and other random stuff I think you'll enjoy.
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POWA, real talk the wagon feels quick af
She is definitely surprising for the number value. 👌👌
Didn’t know matt had a channel??!! Awesome!definitely subscribing 🔥
@@Subi_Joee thanks buddy 🤙🤙
How's the transmission holding up after a year or so?
Love a good wagoon build! 300 is a definitely a quick subie, no question about that! Being a built auto is neat too
The torque really helps wake it up a little. Feels really good so far. 👌
@MatlasDI Is there a way i can contact you?
Im having issues with my Legacy Gt 05 5eat
Oh I’m watching!!!!
Aye, let's goo. We need bigger turbo in the future to use up a bit more of these 1300s. 😂👌👌
Congrats man! Thats a good a number and sounds amazing!
Thanks man! She's doing well, the setup wants a bigger turbo, lol but I think I'm chillin for now. 👌
Congrats Matt! Nice numbers and great shots all around. 💯💯💯💯
Thanks man 😊🙏
Yo the legacy looks hella fun! Sounds so good too! All the right noises! Love it!
Thanks bro 🙏 it's been a blast so far. Very usable powerband for the street. 👌
I Gotta stay in tune with this build!! Dope brotha! Glad to see this 💪🏼💯
Thanks man, try to get more stuff out on it soon 👌
Love seeing y’all work together! Great collab.
Thanks man, was a lot of fun with them all 🙏
Keep climbing the hill bro! You got this. Thanks for the video 😎
Thanks man 🙏 enjoying it so far 🤙
This is awesome! Congrats ✌
Thanks man 😁🤙
Great vid, Matt! Look forward to more LGT content
Thanks man 🙏
Love it Congratulations Matt. That's good numbers you should be Happy.Well Done
Thanks dude 🙏
Very happy with how she turned out 👌
I bet they are both loving this cold Spokane air we have right now my VA WRX is in heaven
They were loving it, I was a little cold though 😅
Nice! And you got to still drive it home, that's a win for sure
Yess, it's always a positive when the car is able to drive after dyno day.
Very nice Matt! I'd be happy with that too..she'll be a lot of fun.
Thanks man, yeah it's very fun around town 👌
Congratulations Matt! Having a blast watching you pull this car together and so great to see a result! Drivability on this looks mint!
Thanks man! Yeah she is working super well 👌👌 now time to clean her up a bit 🤙
I’ll have to go catch up and see what mods he has on it, unless he goes over it in the video
Nice. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks man 🤙
Those Peppermint Mochas are soooo good.
Mittens is flyin'! Love to see it
They are pretty good. Caramel white mocha is my jam, tho.
Yeah, she's cruisin, dude 👌👌
Sounds awesome. Well done :)
Thanks man 🙏
wagon power baby. she was smooth sailing Matt . Congratz Mittens
Yeah she's doing well, now we need to make her look good 👌👌
love the build matt
Thanks man 🙏
Let’s go! Those turbo noises tho 🥰
Stu tu tu 😶🌫️
BBR Tuned Legacy GT dragon wagon. Nice work!
Thanks man 🙏
What a build 🔥
Thanks man 🙏
That really gets my jollies going
Let's go 👌👌
Finally!! Got the notification while at work 👎🏼. Was waiting to see this video all day! Really wanna see what numbers chewie's unleashing!
Still getting some ideas on what we'll do with the outback, but we won't have to conform to certain restrictions like this one, so it should be pretty spicy. 👌
Hell yes! the video I've been waiting for!
Yusss 😤😤
@@MatlasDI This seems like the perfect balance for a daily (I daily mine too). Would you recommend a similar build but without the built 5EAT? Mine doesn't have the shift issues, but curious about the reliability with more torque & HP.
@Brandon Lee I think this power level would do alright with a factory 5eat, but I would probably advise to do an upgraded valve body at minimum. They just have issues applying proper clamping force which will wear them out quickly at anything above oem levels.
I still think those are some good results for your setup. Trans looks like it's doing great too!
Yeah, looking at things after the fact, the goal was way too high for the 20g, and for what it is, it's a blast to drive. Definitely some future proofing here as well. At wot, injector duty cycle doesn't get above 50% 🤣
@@MatlasDI Room to grow! You're running an Outback trans and rear end, right? I'm sure the shorter gearing is really helping out with how it feels.
I want to get my hands on an 06 Tribeca trans. Same final gearing as the Outback, but with shorter 1-3 gearsets.
Ooo, that's interesting. Would be nice having the longer gearing for the highway.
Yeah, outback ratio now as kt was originally my outbacks that was modified.
It's weird, I didn't notice the change from the outback to the legacy, but now that I've switched the other way around, the shorter gearing is super noticeable.
Are we not gonna talk about the "small" amount of smoke on that last run? I know we burn oil and all, but, oof. Also very happy for you! Awesome job on the build!
Engine doesn't burn any oil, it's healthy on all accounts, but it was below freezing, so a lot of what you see is hot air quickly entering the freezing Temps. Doesn't help that the injectors are 1300s and maxing out the turbo only required 48% injector duty cycle.
Love to see this. I am so pumped. I want to install my JB400 and see how it does.
Think the 400 would do really well, it was nice when we had it on the wrx. 20g I think is a bit too small on pump. Would have been interested to see what it'd do on e85, but wasn't worth the additional tuning cost to test it out.
@@MatlasDI my same thing. I am only doing pump gas
@superbike155 yeah that 400 should do well on pump, excited to see how it goes.
@@MatlasDI I have BC stage 2 cams, how much of a benefit would I get from headers? The whole rest of the exhaust is free flowing.
@superbike155 I would 100 percent get high flowing headers like killer b if you have that cam profile.
Thank you for treating that Legacy wagon so well. Such a beautiful and underrated car. Used to have a dom 1.5. It's a better choice. Just compare the compressor wheel specs.
Thanks man!
I actually had a 1.5xtr as well on the outback. Did well with this same transmission producing 400/460 on pump. We decided to run the 20g, as it was the only "carb legal" option, which was kind of the plan with this build, but we're barely touching 50% duty cycle with the 1300s, so I'll have to throw something larger on in the future and see what it does 👌👌
The swag walk reminded me to like
Hell yeah 🤣🤣😉
good shit man! 300 is no joke esp since its a auto!
Thanks bro. 👌
We're not even touching 50% injector duty cycle, so we're obviously going to have to put a larger turbo on her at some point and see what she'll do. 😄
Lets go Matt!!!!
Yusss 😤👌👌
Great Video Matt. I'm wondering how my 4EAT will go
Thanks man, hoping yours goes well 🙏
Definately fun 300 with auto and wagon... 💪
Also 20g which is really cheap power for buck!
Yessir 👌 it is a very responsive turbo, great for the street 👍
@@MatlasDIis it a noticable difference from a vf48 compared to a 20g?
What intake do you have? dose sounds good man
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🙏🙏 Thanks Walter 👌
@@MatlasDI are you going to upgrade to a bigger turbo and injectors to increase your HP, or just keep it the way it is now since your girlfriend drives it as well?
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👌👌 let's gooo.
Mittens has really come a long way man! I remember when she was just a footnote in a few videos here and there.. now she's beasting it up!
F*ck yeah, Mittens!
Thanks man 🙏 yeah came a long way from the car on the side of the house with a blown engine 🤣
@@MatlasDI Most definitely! Such a sleeper, too!
@@_SomeRandum right?! Now it's time to clean it up a bit and make it look a little less stock 😅
nice numbers! what's the fuel setup on mittens?
Thanks, man. It runs an Aem 340lph pump, id1300's, radium rails, aeromotive FPR, and made my own -6 line kit.
It's a bit much for the 20g, but will work well if we switch in the future. 👌
@@MatlasDI thank you! this is the way.
All hail the power wagon. She sounds real good too. So where does the 20G compare to Tanners JB 400. Trying to narrow down a turbo for my blob eye wrx wagon
The jb400 is less responsive, but has more room up top for sure.
I think the 20g is the turbo to get if you're shooting for low to mid 300whp with fantastic street ability on pump. It's real intention is to serve as a drop in turbo that you could max out with basic bolt-ons, and a mild injector upgrade. Personally, if you're going for something more than that on pump, I would recommend the jb400. There isn't that large of a gap on spool time/response.
@@MatlasDI thank you very much. Since this is looking to be a full build with a mild cam I'll probably go with the jb400 but it's good to know my options
@@joshanderson1122 definitely, or consider a fp blue/green. More power reserve and would suit an upgraded cam profile well. Spool is super nice on them as well. 👌
@@MatlasDI had considered the fp blue. This is ment to be an over built 400hp daily. And prove I wasn't insane selling my low mileage 17Sti to get the wagon and a 13 brz. Keep making videos and showing the way to make wagons fun 😃
Blue would do very well with that 👌👌 thanks bro 🙏
Also matt. what did you do to your auto transmission to upgrade it (besides the valve body)?
The transmission was sent as a whole to level 10 on the east coast where they did their bulletproof internal upgrade (chose the 800hp option) they converted the torque converter to a high stall variant, and upgraded the valve body. All in it wad around 4200 with shipping, etc.
Matt, what rpm does it engage at?
@brian anderson I went with their recommendation. Don't remember the exacts on it.
Torn between the 440xt with 10cm turbine and upgraded wheel or the GS overtake 500.
Fairly close in price, personally I would pick up the grimmspeed. 55lb turbo vs 44lb. There is a lot more room in the 500 with similar spool. Also, newer turbo so support is there.
I wouldn't even be worried about the stock heads. I've had friends who are 600whp+ on stock heads with no issues. I also have stock heads on my hybrid build making 484whp and 480wtq with a dom1.5xtr 10cm on e85 at 26psi I rev it out to 7500rpms.
Cool, yeah my main worry was the mileage on components potentially allowing for a dropped valve, etc. Seems to be holding up fine. Still wish i would have at least replaced valve seals when I was redoing the engine. 😅
@@MatlasDI ahh I see. that's understandable. I still wouldn't be too worried just send it!!!
@04Wrx Owner yeah, not a big deal, if it ever messes up, we just fix it lol. 👌
Was there any kind of mods you had to do to get the 20g to work
Can you please tell me who and where or what you have done to the 5eat as i have a legacy with a 5eat as well. Thanks so much
It's a built 5eat with an upgraded valve body and high stall torque converter. All work was done by Pat at level 10 on the east coast, in which they have multiple options available. I chose their "bulletproof" 800 hp option with some little tweaks here and there for random things I brought up (ie further treatment of gearset components, and upgraded heavier duty diff bearings, heat treating the center diff) I would hit them up and tell them your hp goals and they should have an option to get you there. The rest is all in the tuning to get things to decouple properly up top for a fast and smooth shift that will put the least wear on the components for longevity. 👌
Did you go into how much the transmission build was? I mean that and the center dif? I may habe missed it
Have a different video dedicated to pricing on building them and things that can be done to strengthen them up. All in all, my transmission build from level 10 was around 4100 at the time, including the additional items requested.
Matt, how much does it cost to have this service done? I have an 08 outback xt thats gonna need a tune pretty soon...
The tune itself? Or which service?
The cost to have the car tuned on the dyno. I checked baders website but it says “all booked up” so no prices listed
You'd have to email him for exact pricing. I know it depends a lot on the cars setup and how it's being tuned.
Did you modify your 5EAT? Also, I have an overboost at hight RPM on my Legacy to maintain the torque, it's help a lot.
Yeah, the 5eat is a fully built unit from level 10 with a high stall torque converter. When I have them tuned I pull power a little up top right before the shift to promote a quick decoupling of the gears, and to help with longevity. Wanted more out of her, but we were at the limit of the cobb 20g on pump, unfortunately. Car wants a bigger turbo. 😆
@@MatlasDI I ask them for my 5EAT but it's to expensive to ship and return the gearbox from France. More expensive than a 6MT swap... Can you make a video on your RPM gauge to see the difference with the high RPM torque converter please (if you have time)?.
@Nicolas Marchalot yeah that would be very expensive. You may be able to buy the kit and have a local transmission repair shop install it as well. I know they sell just the rebuild components.
I'll make some driving videos here soon, I don't know if the high stall tc will be noticeable on video, though. It's more of a feel in response than anything and is kind of hard to demonstrate unless I did something like a stall launch compared to a stock one. I'll try and figure something out with it 👌
@@MatlasDI A transmission shop is quite rare in Europe, AT even more. It wasn't that long ago that 95% of cars had a manual gearbox. The auto gearbox has only been democratized here for about ten years. I have also a JDM 5EAT and no one knows if it is compatible with the modifications for a USDM 5EAT. I just want to finish my project like that for the moment (Tuned by STI conversion and OEM+ spec with every chassis bolt and nut brand new). Probably a 6MT swap in the futur.
Dang. Yeah that makes things difficult. Manual swap may be the best route at that point.
What bov is that sounds crazy I run a turbo smart it dosent give it that butterfly sounds
It's a grimmspeed bpv 👌
What the mods u done to the 5eat to make those numbers reliable?
It's a built 5eat from level 10 transmission. High stall torque converter, upgraded valve body, ported front pump assembly and upgraded frictions and irons.
@@MatlasDI sweet build. wish there was more love for the 5eat out there. Probably wasn’t cheap either!
Honest question here why are you letting off the gas when the cars shifting. Shouldnt you just be leaving your foot to the floor with it being an automatic?
Normally not a big deal, but if you have additional torque/ horsepower on the unit, letting off a little between shifts helps to decouple internals to not potentially wear them, so honestly, It's just a bit of habit. With it being built, it's not really necessary, but there can still be some minor wear there.
wich exhaust is that
The legacy has a modified remark cat back from a 2008-2014 sti. 🤙
broooo what bpv/bov are you running? made me pop a hardy lol
🤣🤣 it's a grimmspeed bpv. They create a lot of stu stu's 😅
@@MatlasDI I was looking at those and it’s good to hear what it sounds like on an actual Legacy, I’ve noticed how it sounds different on different cara
@Dylan Hanson yeah they can be a little different based on manifold and turbo choice, they essentially have a very hard spring, so they create a lot of flutter at lower boost which is most of what you hear.
@@MatlasDI hell yeah, i actually am wanting to do a similar setup to what youve got on here, only real difference is i wanna stay TMIC for some quicker spooling time since its my daily, i forgot is this car stock turbo or no?
@Dylan Hanson my outback had a grimmspeed topmount and still put down 400hp on pump out of a 1.5xtr, nothing wrong with that, a lot less complexity involved. Legacy has a Cobb 20g.
Were these pulls done in 3rd gear or 4th?
I believe they were done in 3rd, iirc.
I was just wondering cause mine were all done in 4th gear. 1 to 1 ratio.
@Phakmyvang Ly That's normally what we've done in the past as well.
I still want to 6 speed swap my VDC, but that's going to replace my WRX as a daily when I'm done.
I feel it. Would like this one to be a manual as well in the future, but with swapping the Outback, and all the effort that goes into it on these chassis, I'll likely leave this one where it is, at least for a while. 😅
@@MatlasDI yea with the 405 traffic I was like maybe I just keep it automatic, I never thought of doing the level ten upgrade. I looked into it for my titan swap frontier.
@David Din they've done a good job for me, as with anything, always want to chat with the builder before hand to have the most control over end result. 👌
Torque numbers are in NM or lb/ft.. ?
Lb/ft
? I have a 03 bugeye wrx with 4eat , what is done to this auto ?
It's a level 10 built 5eat, it's actually from my other car, so it has around 30k on it, but it was their "bulletproof" 800hp option with high stall torque converter, and upgraded valvebody.
@@MatlasDI how you like stall torque converter? What's the stall set at
@Jonathan Gaia honestly, I don't notice it much unless I'm dipping in and out of accel or decel. I don't know exactly what they increased it to. It was whatever level 10 had recommended for the original builds characteristics.
Is the moon roof still in it? Maybe some weight reduction lol
Yeah. Moonroof still in and fully functional lol. She's the daily, so I'm not pinching to shave times down or anything. 😅
@MatlasDI I'm truly in awe of this thing. I love wagons, and this model was always interesting. And it sounds great 👌 👏. A lot of effort into your daily. I like this. I guess i shouldn't assume you have another vehicle . I'd like to do something of some nature to my h6, but it's my daily and not that savy with these things, so I watch guys like you to learn stuff. Whatever you're doing, keep it up
@kyle bartel thanks man, means a lot 🙏
I do have an outback xt as well, which will be more of the racecar, but I figured hey, if we're cleaning it up, might as well do some tasteful upgrades 🤙
These tasteful upgreads seem like true challenges. But we'll worth the effort
@kyle bartel Definitely. Do it a couple times and you'll get the hang of it 👌
Is this with stock injectors? 660cc?
Nah, this car has way more fuel than needed. ID1300s. Only touched 50% lol
@MatlasDI awesome!! I was going to get 1050cc. You think that will be enough for a 20g?
Or would my stock injectors even be enough?
@@jccars9400 maxed out this 20g on pump only touching roughly 700cc. 1050s would be great for pump and likely sufficient for e85 as well. 1300 wouldn't be a bad idea if you're going E to have a little room up top or for future upgrades.
@jccars9400 you could run the 20g without upgrading but would be fairly limited on what it will do. I don't like that purely due to the possibility of running lean if boost control messes up.
2 hrs sleep then 6hr drive? Id die.
But bruh, there's always a point for the E85 tune. To SAY it does the power 🤣
Yeah, I was pretty dead. Came down with something afterwards, so I was out for about a week afterward as well.
It would have been cool to see it make more, but I think I'll just upgrade the turbo in the future.
@@MatlasDI Oh man that sucks. Bein sick is the damn worse. Hey your numbers are nothing to scoff at. It really is more about how that power is delivered and feels more than big number. My VB is sitting at about 375/400(E30) and feels perfect there. It can do more but I am leaning on the safer side while everyone else finds the death point for me haha.
@DarkWolf Hobbies not a bad way to do it with a new platform. I'm sure those things will do well. Prime had their way with them previously and got great numbers out of them for relatively nothing. Would be interested in picking one up in the future. 👌👌
@@MatlasDI I really do recommend at least a test drive. It feels much more refined than my VA ever did. I know people don't like the looks too much, they have grown on me, but I also say, I don't see those parts of the car from the drivers seat. An that's where the most fun is!
@DarkWolf Hobbies We actually received some right before I left subaru, so I got to check them out a little, theyre a blast. Honestly, I don't even dislike the exterior. The rear end is slightly odd, but I've liked every other aspect since it came out. We had planned on trading the crosstrek in on one, but with the career changes, we decided to hold off. I would really like to still pick one up on the future. 👌
Worry about the block before the heads
Normally, I would as well, but the RA shortblock has less than 10k on it, and the heads are all 165k factory components. 🥲
This was a long ass video!! LMAO
It was a long ass day 🤣🤣🤣
Does this car have avcs?
Single avcs B heads.
@@MatlasDI ahh yeah I’ve got those heads on my 02 wrx. Lookin to upgrade from the vf48 I have. 300-350 would be cool but without avcs idk how laggy it’ll be.
@Grant Garver Shouldn't really be a problem, I would think.
@@MatlasDI ok I was just curious because my tuner said to make 350 I’d need an fp red and that it would be laggy but when I think ab 350hp I was hoping lag wouldn’t be an issue
Great vid btw !
300 wheel dank daily
i cant bring myself to buy parts until my ej explodes and gives me a reason
Literally what I did with this car 🤣 It was my lady and I's beater daily, and we drove it until a rod bearing disintegrated. 😆
That is clear…🤨