The P15 Gen 1s are great laptops. I have deployed three of them with Quadro RTX4000. But watch out for battery drain with the docks. You should review the Docking station for the P15 Gen1 - P15 with Quadro-3000; 4000 or 5000 and the Lenovo TB Workstation dock Gen2 . Battery drain fun, even with the 230W power brick that comes with the dock, since it ends up only supplying 170W to the laptop. It splits out 65W to the dock and 170W to the laptop. Huge oversight by Lenovo. And your battery slowly drains away under use. Super frustrating. The Gen 1 docks came with a 2nd charger to power the dock. In your config with the T1000 or T2000 you would be fine, since it only needs 170W to power and top off battery.
Great to hear your feedback on the P15 Gen 1 psycl0ptic, especially the dock side. Even with the 170W plugged into the dock it still won't charge the laptop via the dock as I was thinking only 100W will go though but at least provide slow charge but nope, zero charge so you need the 230W for the P15. Spoke to Lenovo and yes pretty much all the docks you will need to plug the supplied 170W or 230W to the laptop as well as the USB-C/thunderbolt docking station too. I am hoping Lenovo update the docks this year to fix this issue.
@@BsianTech the TB3 Workstation Dock Gen2? But there is a solution. it comes with a 230W charger with a splitter. So what i do it buy a 65W charger and plug that into power port 1 and then plug the 230W into power port to - and problem solved. Not sure why lenovo doesn't just ship it in two configs - one for lower end spec P15s and one one for higher end P15, and P17 and T15G. All of those have variants that draw more than 170W. The Same TB dock, gen one, came with the two power adapter config I mentioned. But to be clear this is on the Workstation dock, not the standard TB docks. Those only supply power over TB. The workstation dock is dual - TB cable and power cable magnetically attached. Gen 2 Workstation dock with splitter: www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/docking/universal-cable-docks-thunderbolt/TBT-WS-Dock-Gen-2/p/40ANY230US Gen1 with dual power supplies: support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500252-thinkpad-thunderbolt-3-workstation-dock-230w170w-overview-and-sevice-parts Notice gen1 had two variants. Gen 2 comes in just the one. And they recommend the dock and don't tell you it won't supply enough power. I wasn't sure, but just ordered a 65W charger off amazon, removed the splitter and turned Gen2 into Gen 1 dock and no more battery drain. Again huge lenovo oversight. Was on phone with my Lenovo Rep and support and no one knew what the problem was. I just solved it myself.
@@psycl0ptic Thank you very much on your investigation and findings, I hope people will read into this I will pin this comment up. I will try this myself on the P15 and TB3 G2 dock with dual adapters and report back.
Good to know that, I have a new ThinkPad T15g, pretty similar to the P15, and I was wondering what Lenovo dock I can use with it, but it looks like the those docks would require having several power bricks over the table, right? I'm looking for something with the minimal set of cables as my desk is small and I don't want to put cables everywhere.
@@jmoralesv03 Depends on your GPU. How big is your laptop power brick? With the higher end GPU configs, the laptop needs more power, so the TB Workstation 2 dock splits that power 65W for the dock and 170 that passes to the laptop. What works for me is to remove the splitter and plug in a 65W power adapter to the dock in the dock input port and then keep the 230W power adapter in the pass through power port. Then you just have the two cables coming from the dock (TB3 and Power adapter) which are magnetically attached. This cable here: www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/cables-and-adapters/cables/CABLE-BO-TBT-Dock-Active-Cable-1-5m/p/4X90U90621?cid=us:sem|se|google|ca+smart+shopping+accessories+non-intel|gs_accessories||4X90U90621|12111973117|115095911503|pla-1139772220953|shopping|brand&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyJOBBhDCARIsAJG2h5dmuhs5jSefmnIVK8llAMv7L_ZPLHBMjpuD-jBqtpmppsKPPcJ7OoAaAsLoEALw_wcB
I am a professional film maker / film editor / Camera Operator / DIT. After two months the touch screen module internal tape separated from the computer interface. Since my 4K screen was on back order I was stuck with a touch screen that was not functioning. I reloaded the computer three times to make sure this was not a hardware issue that Lenovo tech support was unable to determine without physically testing my machine. After a month of waiting I started trouble shooting the problem and was 99% sure that the touch pad module was not seated correctly during the original build in China. Lenovo tech came yesterday and proved I was right and we fixed the problem in a few minutes. I had him use high end thermal tape that is used for German electronics in BMW's to hold the touch screen interface ribbon in place. (Tesa's Most Advanced High Heat Harness Tape 51036 Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW ) . Yeah I rebuilt a couple Mercedes over the last few years. Anyways I wish the tape Lenovo used inside this machine dealt better with the thermal heat of the 4K screens / system heat. I still love this machine! Hope this helps someone in need of this information. Here's to the future! Awesome Video BsianDad I learned a few new things!
Excellent review of the P15, probably the most in-depth you can find on YT. That arm holding the laptop is glorious ! As you mention, a novelty of this model is that the GPU is not soldered anymore. It is believed Lenovo made this change to offer more GPU options without making zillions custom motherboards, one for each CPU,GPU combo as it did previously. Theorically it should be feasible to replace the GPU but finding the custom board is probably next to impossible. The chassis is extremely sturdy with almost no flex due to the metallic rolling cage inside. I also wish the Gen2 will offer 16:10 panels
Wow thanks for the feedback Michael it was really heart felt. I think you might have hit the nail there having a daughter board to house the GPU allows to reuse the mainboard design in a number of their other laptops and just change the CPU and GPU combo. I'm personally don't think it's a bad thing, could try put a RTX 3080 later on when it is available lol. Making this workstation closer to a desktop computer able to upgrade in the future! As for the chassis I was very pleasantly surprise by the extra reinforcement on the frame, they have up the game on this one in this department. As for the arm holding the laptop might seems to be popular comment =). I'm not trying to sell it or being sponsored by this company. I do have a partnership with them to assist me with the upcoming office furniture video series I am going to do. They currently only ship inside Australia but they are exploring International shipping for the future but here is the link to their arms www.zenspacedesks.com.au/product-category/monitor-arms/ . The arm in the video isn't listed yet as it's a brand new arm they about to release out specifically for to hold smaller weight loads like the laptop.
Thank you for this review. I like this format very much, it is comprehensive and meticulous enough to my liking. One suggestion: to put ThinkPad in the title, since Lenovo also has another model with the name ThinkBook 15P, which confuses (at least currently) the search algorithms.
Oh thanks for the pick up o leningradets, I was meant to add the ThinkPad in the title, got it all fixed now =). Thanks for the feedback and also I am very glad the video was useful for you =) aim of my channel to help =).
Thanks Jon Henning I am glad I was able to give good information and assist hopefully with your decision. I'll do my best to continue and improve the style my review videos are delivered =). Cheers for the heartfelt lovely feedback Jon. Catch you in another video I hope.
Thanks Brynjar Hartmannsson I appreciate your feedback and directing what was useful to you so I know in the future I see things like this to continue to include them in the review videos, stay safe and take care =).
Thanks for the feedback Ruslan Valeev, a lot of the times I usually get low to mid spec workstations to start with. I will try get more popular ones this year as best I can, atm draw of the luck. Stay healthy and safe =).
Hey, I just wanted to drop by to thank you for these in-depth reviews. It really helped me out when I was shopping. I hope you keep doing them, and I hope you get your hands on a P16!
Wow this thing is a beast! Excellent and very thorough review as always! I am never left with questions after your reviews, because you cover everything so thoroughly and carefully. Thanks so much. 😊
Absolutely my pleasure Mad Catter, thank you very much for the feedback knowing the review videos have be able to cover topics that you may have questions to and that I am heading in the right direction. Cheers mate and keep safe and healthy.
Appreciate the feedback @sonnygrant374, Lisa is wonderful reviewer and Mobile Tech Review is a channel I admire and watch myself from time to time as she gets more hardware then I do =), she has wonderful personality and information.
Outstanding video. You put a lot of thought into this and I appreciate it. The ability to quickly jump to any review section is priceless. I purchased this machine based on your review and I am totally happy with it. I was wondering if you have the ability to review one of these in the touchscreen model? I have seen conflicting specs on the Lenovo website and others that the touchscreen display is 500 nits, and others show it being 400 nits. I would love to hear your review on this touchscreen model, in both functionality, glare, and what the "Actual" nits would read with the X-Rite scanner. I am a technician and do a lot of work outdoors, I could really use the touchscreen option however with this display being glossy and not matte, I'm quite hesitant on stepping up to the touch model. Thanks again for your efforts!
Hey Man, great review ! I bought the P15 with the Quadro T1000 Graphics card and i would like to know if i could potentially upgrade the graphics card in the future. You said that theoratically one could upgrade it, so could i actually buy a Quadro RTX 3000 and upgrade it or is it just theory? If yes where can i buy the GPU ?
Excelente canal, muy detallada y exhaustiva la revisión. Espero que tengas millones de suscriptores que valoren la calidad de tus videos. Saludos desde Siberia!
Amazing review as always. Thank you for your dedication to providing such great analyses. You have been a great help to me in looking for a laptop that can keep up with the CAD requirements at work.
Pleasure that I can assist with your research on finding a new workstation for your work. Which CAD program do you run Allan? I'm not any expert in CAD but I love listening and learning from the professionals.
@@BsianTech primarily Solidworks 2019 and sometimes 2016, though sometimes Autocad gets thrown in for specific formats. A funny thing about Solidworks is that it has SEVERE internal limits. You can have 128 gigs of ram, but if more than 12 gigs are used in total, reguardless of what programs are using what allocations, Solidworks becomes entirely inoperable. It also continually snatches up GDI objects as it runs which is interesting to watch. After it surpasses Windows limits, it dies, though that can be 'fixed' by adjusting the max GDI object limit set in the BIOS. Also, it can't clean ot it's own registries. Every part/assembly/drawing opened and closed leaves registry entries that can only be cleaned out by restarting the computer. Long story short, the CPU, GPU, and ram speed are important, but not ram quantity. Physical memory is nice, but due to the number of full restarts needed in a day (usually 2-10), reboot speed is also a significant factor. Current iterations of Solidworks tend to only use a single or a small number of cores, so clock speed is also more valuable than total core counts (Solidworks, I think in 2020, tried to explain that this is a good thing, and advertised that the current version only used a single core reguardless of how many you had.). As ironic as it may seem, I think a curious programmer may get more enjoyment from watching the program struggle in its own bad memory management than a designer. I'm not saying the program is 'bad', you can make a chain of dozens of parts mechanically mated together and drag it in real time, all physics calculations happening in moments, but one you let go and try to move it again, prepare for minutes or hours of lag as the program struggles to perform the last operation in any way. That is, if it doesn't crash first.
Actually, on that note, I believe the optional setup for running Autocad would be: 4 matching ram sticks with tight timing, at least 16 gigs, but more than that won't help Solidworks Two fast nvme m.2 drives in raid 0, preferably with a total of 250 gigs or more At least one thunderbolt usb port And fast processors, with the ability to upgrade CPU and GPU in the future Those are the current specs that I think most well informed Solidworks users will be interested in. That being said, not all CAD programs are the same. This is all purely based on Solidworks.
Clarification So, all of the work computers we have and both home computers originally used for info run on 16gb of ram. A computer with more ram did allow Solidworks to use more. I must, therefore, clarify that more ram would be an improvement in addition to ram speed.
Thanks @Allan Roberts for the well detailed explanations this has help me understand Solidworks more and what to try align more tests for future reviews. I did have a feeling that Solidworks was more single core driven along with number of other apps I have come across and hence I try add in that processor behavior section to give a better idea along with the thermals if possible. Also reading the ideal setup for SW, I was wondering the thunderbolt port for? Just transferring project data between computers or is it used for other tasks?
Thanks very much @Tok Ads - All talks On Social Digital Marketing, I am guessing the different scores in benchmark test for Passmark and Cinebench that show dual results. The reason is that I tested these under the two different versions of Passmark and Cinebench. Since this video I have now removed the older version. The newer versions of Passmark and Cinebench ran the test differently and also different support was why I had this included in the review videos for people who had scores on the older versions to compare it with.
hey @Bsiandad thanks so much for the info on this! I actually just purchased the P15 from Lenovo, and really appreciate your in-depth look at everything! I really have struggled to find a good laptop that fits my needs, which are primarily use for music production and as a current dental student. I can't find much online that I truly understand/is relevant regarding Thinkpads and music production, but I do know what I'm looking for is a quiet laptop with low fan noise that has a lot of RAM, strong processor, and good storage (it seems like graphics aren't too important). It seems like the Thinkpad P15 should check all these boxes! I've had a Dell XPS15 9500 the past 2 months or so that I plan to return- I'm honestly really fed up with Dell and the fans are so loud and I've been having serious latency issues. If you have any suggestions for how I can keep fan noise down on the P15 once I receive it that'd be hugely helpful, considering music production and recording are the most intense tasks I plan to use it for! (If not no worries at all)! Also, I am just a little concerned based on the comments below about which dock I will need for the P15 to charge and connect all my USBs from my different instruments (digital piano, electronic drums, MIDI keyboard, etc). I actually currently have the Dell WD19TB which has worked well with all these devices via a single Thunderbolt cable, and am hoping I wouldn't have to purchase another dock? The P15 I ordered comes with a 230 W adapter, so maybe that will work with the WD19TB to provide enough power? Hopefully! Maybe @psycl0ptic will know- he seems like he has the power situation figured out well for this laptop! Thanks a ton, excited to see more of your reviews!
Can you suggest which laptop is good for video editing(DaVinci Resolve 17) Lenovo Think Pad P15v Gen 1 (Intel Xeon W-10855M) or Apple M1 Macbook Pro 13 inch
Nice review for Lenovo Thinkpad P15 Gen 1. Have you benchmark the simulation software with this Workstation ? Please if you can involve simulation software benchmarking in the review. As many of the CAE engineers get confuse what laptop they need to buy for working in high end simulation like ANSYS or ABAQUS
Hi 1 Shubham Choudhary, thanks for the feedback, I haven't benchmark the Simulation software. You're the first that has asked this and I am very interested to assist and adding this benchmarking to the line up that could help your field as well. Which Benchmark software and test to perform that would be able to perform the require useful information so CAE engineers can make use of? I'm a complete newbie in this field so any information would help.
@@BsianTech It was great to hear from you. The benchmarking of CAE software for Laptop performance took more time and effort accordingly. I can assist you in that by sending some reports and test specification. Kindly share your email address so that we can work accordingly.
you should have mentioned how exactly you're causing the load and what kind of load it is. for example you seem to be loading CPU only, GPU seems to be almost idle. i wish you tested GPU temps too.
Great review! And average great laptop! Is there anyone having problems with the 3.5mm jack? The sound is good but when in having video-conferences the people say my mics volume is really low. I don´t know if is a driver issue or what, as the headphones are working good with other devices.
Thank you for the review on The P15 Gen 1 but truly not having any luck finding GPU upgrade from T1000 to Quadro RTX3080 or better! Any insight would be appreciated? Thank You!
@@BsianTech can you do a comparison P15 vs P17 and like what can be done with different config options that can help people custom build for their needs.
LOL its great card and fantastic value atm for my use and has helped a lot in rendering plus has been great pairing with the Ryzen 5950X for video editing. One day I might fire up a game on it to have a look. What do you do with yours?
@@BsianTech I have it paired with the i5-10600KF and 16GB of RAM, I mostly play games on it, for example in GTA Online it was over 60 fps the whole time, other games that I play are just poorly optimized and framerates under 60 happen all the time, but that's not the card's fault. Overall I am very happy with mine.
@@pafawag5b6b5b Nice, I aim to get a 4K monitor of some sort with high refresh rates so can perform the dock tests later on this year. Do you find the 144hz a good upgrade?
I hope Lenovo realized that We The People. Want a Intel H processor or Ryzen laptop processor but having an option without dGPU just the iGPU for flexible option. Hoping you review the T15p, I see it as the Non CAD powerhouse laptop just for power user. But I like the Hinges in the P15 reminds me of my T540p. Sorry guilty for those hinges LOL.
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Dear, Is it possible to charge a Thinkpad P15 Gen1 Workstation with a USB-C charger? I know the original charger is 170W, but I can't find USB-C chargers in that capacity. Thanks!
You can charge the P15 G1 but it will be on slow charge and you will get a message from windows to let you know it is on slow charge. If you are running a lot of load on the laptop it will battery drain faster than it will charge just to be aware of.
Seems like he got a free review unit. He's not being critical like someone who spent their own money and not expecting anything from lenovo. However I still believe it's a good machine, but not perfect.
I'm in doubt about buying my first workstation. What do you think if you had the choose between the HP zbook fury 15, Lenovo P15 or Dell 7550 with i7-10750, T1000 and 16GB RAM? These are all three top workstations but I can't choose between them. Can you tell in short what the cons and pros are and which one you would buy?
Hi Dr.Rwiena, I haven't played with the HP Zbook Fury 15 in person yet but have a good general idea of it though. So I will attempt your question about those three workstations, Port selection, HP and Dell are good, HP being the winner. Keyboard goes to Lenovo, trackpad goes to HP. Display will be HP too, performance for me would be the Dell. Speakers will be decent tie between HP and Lenovo. In truth it all boils down to the after support for me, which you may get better in each country. All three workstations are built well and all are business class workstation designed to take on the work environment and travelling but if you had to make me pick one which I had to use just the laptop itself without dock and external monitor I would go for the HP, just got the combo of the display, keyboard, trackpad and speaker seems very well balanced to each other.
Work gives me the option to get this laptop with the 1080p screen and quadro p520. I currently have a MacBook Pro and can get another one (2019) 16in model. Which would be the better option? I like the TouchPad on the Mac as it makes using the laptop much easier but 85% of my use case is docked with dual monitor setup. Thanks!
Hi Jonny M, I would like to get my hands on the T15g to review as well. It's an interesting one, looks very similar to the P15 with I think I suspect only the discrete graphics being the major difference. T15g having the Geforce RTX 2070/2080 Super Max-Q instead of the Quadro T or RTX. Becomes a debate of Geforce vs Quadro again which I have covered a number of times in my live streams. Stability (Quadro) vs Speed (Geforce) is best way to say this, I've used this analogy normally for this. Quadro are like big Semi-Trailer Trucks and Geforce is like a supercar, both will carry load and get from A to B but of course trucks have more capacity to take on more load and are designed to run for reliably 24/7 where as of course the supercar is faster but not designed to take high load and extended operation. So really its up to your budget and if you be working professionally and applications need for stability. I hope that helps.
I heard from Lenovo (Singapore), the T15g is EOL ( end of life) and my order was cancelled. I took full option for SGD 6700. :( Funny thing is still the product is available in website.
Couldn't be EOL that quick Narendirane Ramakrishnan, it would have only been released last year the T15g, normally a model will stay in circulation for two years and sometimes three years for harder countries to ship to.
@@BsianTech Hmmm... Then I am not sure why Lenovo told like that... They even told me they are gonna remove from the website listing and also working with application team to remove it... I suspect its because of parts non-availability or Lenovo Singapore don't want to put much efforts to import parts from US or overseas to assemble here due to shortage in Singapore stock... But the US version is RTX2080 Super with Max-Q (8GB) and Singapore version(T15g) is just RTX2080 Max-Q (8GB)... But looking forward for newer mobile workstation equipped with RTX3000 series (Not Quadro)... Eventhough I see P15 Gen1 available with RTX Quadro 5000 Max-Q 16GB in Lenovo Singapore but this GPU is not up to the mark when compared to RTX 3000 Series..
Buddy. I just got one and would like to know about the fans. Does is blows out jus I think one of the sides of the laptop? Did got the right side to blow anything out yet. Can anybody help me?
Bruv, how do I know online whether I'm buying a graphic card for PC or laptop? I've been looking for days and I don't know how to tell the difference online could you please help me? I'm looking for RTX 4000 for the ThinkPad p15 GEN 1 LAPTOP If someon could send me a direct link that would be extra helpful thank you people
Unfortunely Lenovo has remove the specs of this gen 1 model but the graphics for the P15 Gen 1 can range from the Quadro T1000 to RTX2000 - RTX 5000. You will have to check on the description of the laptop which graphics it has been configured with when you are purchasing it. Best way is to ask the seller what is the graphics on the P15 gen 1 they are trying to sell.
At the bottom side of laptop there is a very little hole. You will need a paper clip to poke it in and hold for 10 seconds to reset the power. I created a video to demonstrate how to do this with X1 Carbon but this works for the thinkpad range, ua-cam.com/video/NWJd571ZWXs/v-deo.html . If that doesn't work then you will need to open the laptop to disconnect the battery.
@bsiandad thanks for the review, i recently purchased Lenovo P15S 20T4A007AU model from their website. Its not yet shipped to me, but after placing the order, i learned that it just got 250 nits and 45% Gamut. I should have known it before, i am wondering is it okay or its not worth it at all and better to cancel the order?? Please help
Hi Sree Akuthota, this would depend on your work if you are working on things where colour representation is important or semi important than I would consider cancelling and reordering with a better display.
@@BsianTech thanks for prompt reply, can you please have a quick glimpse at the below specs and advise if its a good one., the $1,998 one. Not sure about the technical numbers on graphic card, and RAM etc., Your reply will be appreciated www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p-series/P53/p/22WS2WPWP53
@@BsianTech use large excel files, edit videos or photos (not as a professional), watch movies, and have multiple tabs open like 15+. Coming to apps Python programming, Rapid miner (just machine learning stuff)
@Sree Akuthota yes that configuration will do you great. If you find that the extremely large excel files are crashing or freezing a lot, easy to add in an extra 16GB RAM (I have come across a few excel spreadsheets in my career that require 32GB RAM to run smoothly you will know from the freezing while working on a particular document). The spec you link the computer will be able to handle video/photo editing, surfing web and streaming videos plus programming and ML. Just to give you a note seeing if you are in Australia if you like to use my Lenovo affiliate link it would help me out and the channel, it goes to Lenovo Australia official website and you will still get the awesome deal, I will just receive a little commission but it won't be any extra cost to you. Even if you go choose different items/computers via the link it would help me out. Here is the affiliate link lenovoau.hmqldu.net/EabKjK . Cheers.
M.It you can charge this laptop via the thunderbolt/USB-C ports but it might go on slow charge if you have a small power adapter hooked to the docking station as this laptop does require the 135W for full charging capabilties. Look at the Lenovo thinkpad Thunderbolt 3 gen 2 (or above if in the future new model releases) to provide the full power for docking station.
Opps sorry I create templates for that section I remember I needed to recreate that one again has it had rendering problems and I must have forgot to change that value when I recreated that. Thanks for picking it up. I will pin this comment so people know it's meant to say 94 WHr. Thanks @Stewart Stewart =)
Very gud explaination , I have a P15 i7 , 16 gb Ram and RTX3000 with 6 gb Ram graphics card . Im facing a problem like the display is flashing frequently every 15 or 30 minutes once . There is 2 graphics cards are available one intel UHD and another RTX3000. When both the drivers are active iam facing that problem ;and other way if i active only RTX 3000 MS word and excel responds very slow . I tried in another way like disable the RTX3000 driver and active Intel UHD it is not detecting external monitor. If anyone have faced such issues earlier , please support me to resolve
I have encountered the same problem that you have. When I turned off the RTX 3000 and used only Intel UHD, the screen flickering was fixed, but it caused another inconvenience that I couldn't adjust the screen brightness. Then I reinstalled the correct Intel driver on Lenovo homepage for P15 gen 1 series and the problem is completely solved. Looks like updating Intel graphic card caused the conflict (I guess when I updated windows and via Intel software)
Ok so I have since found out that you can actually upgrade the GPU as it is attached to a modular daughterboard next I need to find out if I can actually upgrade the CPU does anybody know?
How do you rate the P15 against the Dell 7550. I bought a 7550 with an i9-10885h,32gb ram, 1tb, T2000, HD 4K screen. (Didn't even come with finger print scanner everything is extra) It lasted 4 days before endless problems. (crashed 4 times with basic office and email, temps ran to 80 degrees just on normal usage) Then took Dell 5 weeks to do a refund to the company I bought it from. Terrible customer service.( even though I had the most expensive customer care service paid for on purchase) I am now looking at a Lenovo P15 with Xeon 10885, 32gb ram 1tb h/d, RTX3000, 4k non touch screen. How do you rate thermals, build quality and 4k screen against Dell. Must admit I have had Lenovo T series for over 10 years and they last the longest and never give hassles. Dell 7550 ran super hot and super noisy and that was only office and internet (was faulty) also cost 6000 USD
IMO David, the thermals on the 7550 was better than the P15, sorry to hear you had a bad experience with Dell's aftersales support. The 7550 may feel hot but it would run it's fan much higher at higher speeds than the P15. So the P15 was quieter but of course you pay the price of performance for that quieter operation. There has been cases where the thermal paste hasn't been applied nicely in the 7550 and so runs hotter than usual which I suspect in your case. As for the P15 thermals are okay, could be improved if we could control fan speed better. Build quality wise much the sameness of the Dell, all built to be serviced lol and as for the display I think Dell have better 4k IMO but with a huge but if Lenovo brought back that built in color meter which they had in the P52 I would easily say Lenovo.
@@BsianTech thanks for the reply, my model is T15 g gen1, this model has 3 USB-C Ports, including Thunderbolt™ 3 connectors 2X; and USB-C™ ( 3.2 Gen 1) Connector 1X; which one is used connecting to USB-C docker?
The build material of the P15 is neither, it is magnesium alloy. Personally I like the magnesium alloy build, doesn't dint like aluminum and has the durability strength like plastic.
I have this laptop but with lower specs, and it has been working great for normal use and things like programming. However, in terms of gaming, it used to run fine at 60 fps with low settings. but recently after like 10 minutes of gaming the fps suddenly drops drastically, and I have found that the cause of this is that the CPU throttles to very low speeds (like from 4 GHz to 0.8GHz) even though the temperature is fine. Do you know what could be causing this problem?
Hi Muhammad, I didn't experience the throttling on the p15 when I had it. What I have found which you will see soon when I upload on the X13 i5 version I encounter the same issue as yourself after 3-10mins when the computer is on load it will throttle the processor to 0.8ghz and won't bring it up till it cools down a bit, even though it's not crazy hot. I going to have a chat with Lenovo regarding this finding as I tested this on 3 separate X13.
@@BsianTech ok I will be waiting for your video. By the way, today I decided to try gaming without my charger plugged in, and for some reason it was working fine on 60 fps low settings for as long as the battery lasted......
I have a P53 and the same thing happens when the laptop is on battery or not given enough wattage (e.g. the workstation dock only pass through 170w to my 230w machine when only the 230w power brick is used), so worth checking your power supply and power settings. The pinned post at the top explain the docking station issue in detail. (Edit: if the issue goes away when unplugged I suspect it could be due to your power mode setting accessed via the windows battery icon)
@@zeli but my power settings are the same for plugged in and not plugged in. I think the problem could be dust in the vents/fan perhaps (which might heat up more when plugged in?) So I'll try dusting my laptop and see if the issue goes away
@@MuhammadAhsanKaleem I doubt it will be due to dust in the vent / fan, it shouldn't heat up when plugged in, you could check it by propping it up using a book / stand, and P15 I believe have better thermal design than P53. Also, the power mode setting (the one that allows you to slide accross when you click the windows battery icon, not the lenovo vantage one) is the one I'm talking about, if you set that to "best performance" it should unleash the full power (unless you have an underrated charger, which I doubt). Also I think P53 used to have this CPU throttling issue, the link doesn’t work but the topic is P53 Performance Issues - Thermal/Power Throttling?. Hope it helps.
Main difference is the discrete graphics in the P15 is NVIDIA Quadro option which is optimised and more stable for professional work as they are usually certified with the common professional softwares where as the T15 will have option of the NVIDIA GeForce.
The P15 Gen 1s are great laptops. I have deployed three of them with Quadro RTX4000. But watch out for battery drain with the docks. You should review the Docking station for the P15 Gen1 - P15 with Quadro-3000; 4000 or 5000 and the Lenovo TB Workstation dock Gen2 . Battery drain fun, even with the 230W power brick that comes with the dock, since it ends up only supplying 170W to the laptop. It splits out 65W to the dock and 170W to the laptop. Huge oversight by Lenovo. And your battery slowly drains away under use. Super frustrating. The Gen 1 docks came with a 2nd charger to power the dock. In your config with the T1000 or T2000 you would be fine, since it only needs 170W to power and top off battery.
Great to hear your feedback on the P15 Gen 1 psycl0ptic, especially the dock side. Even with the 170W plugged into the dock it still won't charge the laptop via the dock as I was thinking only 100W will go though but at least provide slow charge but nope, zero charge so you need the 230W for the P15. Spoke to Lenovo and yes pretty much all the docks you will need to plug the supplied 170W or 230W to the laptop as well as the USB-C/thunderbolt docking station too. I am hoping Lenovo update the docks this year to fix this issue.
@@BsianTech the TB3 Workstation Dock Gen2? But there is a solution. it comes with a 230W charger with a splitter. So what i do it buy a 65W charger and plug that into power port 1 and then plug the 230W into power port to - and problem solved. Not sure why lenovo doesn't just ship it in two configs - one for lower end spec P15s and one one for higher end P15, and P17 and T15G. All of those have variants that draw more than 170W. The Same TB dock, gen one, came with the two power adapter config I mentioned. But to be clear this is on the Workstation dock, not the standard TB docks. Those only supply power over TB. The workstation dock is dual - TB cable and power cable magnetically attached.
Gen 2 Workstation dock with splitter: www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/docking/universal-cable-docks-thunderbolt/TBT-WS-Dock-Gen-2/p/40ANY230US
Gen1 with dual power supplies: support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500252-thinkpad-thunderbolt-3-workstation-dock-230w170w-overview-and-sevice-parts
Notice gen1 had two variants. Gen 2 comes in just the one. And they recommend the dock and don't tell you it won't supply enough power. I wasn't sure, but just ordered a 65W charger off amazon, removed the splitter and turned Gen2 into Gen 1 dock and no more battery drain. Again huge lenovo oversight. Was on phone with my Lenovo Rep and support and no one knew what the problem was. I just solved it myself.
@@psycl0ptic Thank you very much on your investigation and findings, I hope people will read into this I will pin this comment up. I will try this myself on the P15 and TB3 G2 dock with dual adapters and report back.
Good to know that, I have a new ThinkPad T15g, pretty similar to the P15, and I was wondering what Lenovo dock I can use with it, but it looks like the those docks would require having several power bricks over the table, right? I'm looking for something with the minimal set of cables as my desk is small and I don't want to put cables everywhere.
@@jmoralesv03 Depends on your GPU. How big is your laptop power brick? With the higher end GPU configs, the laptop needs more power, so the TB Workstation 2 dock splits that power 65W for the dock and 170 that passes to the laptop. What works for me is to remove the splitter and plug in a 65W power adapter to the dock in the dock input port and then keep the 230W power adapter in the pass through power port. Then you just have the two cables coming from the dock (TB3 and Power adapter) which are magnetically attached. This cable here: www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/cables-and-adapters/cables/CABLE-BO-TBT-Dock-Active-Cable-1-5m/p/4X90U90621?cid=us:sem|se|google|ca+smart+shopping+accessories+non-intel|gs_accessories||4X90U90621|12111973117|115095911503|pla-1139772220953|shopping|brand&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyJOBBhDCARIsAJG2h5dmuhs5jSefmnIVK8llAMv7L_ZPLHBMjpuD-jBqtpmppsKPPcJ7OoAaAsLoEALw_wcB
I use the same machine to run AutoCAD/Cadworx. Runs flawlessly. This is, without a doubt, a professional laptop
I am a professional film maker / film editor / Camera Operator / DIT. After two months the touch screen module internal tape separated from the computer interface. Since my 4K screen was on back order I was stuck with a touch screen that was not functioning. I reloaded the computer three times to make sure this was not a hardware issue that Lenovo tech support was unable to determine without physically testing my machine. After a month of waiting I started trouble shooting the problem and was 99% sure that the touch pad module was not seated correctly during the original build in China. Lenovo tech came yesterday and proved I was right and we fixed the problem in a few minutes. I had him use high end thermal tape that is used for German electronics in BMW's to hold the touch screen interface ribbon in place. (Tesa's Most Advanced High Heat Harness Tape 51036 Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW ) . Yeah I rebuilt a couple Mercedes over the last few years. Anyways I wish the tape Lenovo used inside this machine dealt better with the thermal heat of the 4K screens / system heat. I still love this machine! Hope this helps someone in need of this information. Here's to the future! Awesome Video BsianDad I learned a few new things!
Excellent review of the P15, probably the most in-depth you can find on YT. That arm holding the laptop is glorious ! As you mention, a novelty of this model is that the GPU is not soldered anymore. It is believed Lenovo made this change to offer more GPU options without making zillions custom motherboards, one for each CPU,GPU combo as it did previously. Theorically it should be feasible to replace the GPU but finding the custom board is probably next to impossible. The chassis is extremely sturdy with almost no flex due to the metallic rolling cage inside. I also wish the Gen2 will offer 16:10 panels
Wow thanks for the feedback Michael it was really heart felt. I think you might have hit the nail there having a daughter board to house the GPU allows to reuse the mainboard design in a number of their other laptops and just change the CPU and GPU combo. I'm personally don't think it's a bad thing, could try put a RTX 3080 later on when it is available lol. Making this workstation closer to a desktop computer able to upgrade in the future! As for the chassis I was very pleasantly surprise by the extra reinforcement on the frame, they have up the game on this one in this department.
As for the arm holding the laptop might seems to be popular comment =). I'm not trying to sell it or being sponsored by this company. I do have a partnership with them to assist me with the upcoming office furniture video series I am going to do. They currently only ship inside Australia but they are exploring International shipping for the future but here is the link to their arms www.zenspacedesks.com.au/product-category/monitor-arms/ . The arm in the video isn't listed yet as it's a brand new arm they about to release out specifically for to hold smaller weight loads like the laptop.
Thank you for this review. I like this format very much, it is comprehensive and meticulous enough to my liking.
One suggestion: to put ThinkPad in the title, since Lenovo also has another model with the name ThinkBook 15P, which confuses (at least currently) the search algorithms.
Oh thanks for the pick up o leningradets, I was meant to add the ThinkPad in the title, got it all fixed now =). Thanks for the feedback and also I am very glad the video was useful for you =) aim of my channel to help =).
Brilliant review! Definitely one of the best tech reviews I've seen. Very clear, organized, and you packed in a ton of great information! Cheers!
Thanks Jon Henning I am glad I was able to give good information and assist hopefully with your decision. I'll do my best to continue and improve the style my review videos are delivered =). Cheers for the heartfelt lovely feedback Jon. Catch you in another video I hope.
Finally P15 reviewed, I was waiting for it thank you
Very welcome hope it was useful to you Jairo Zenteno.
I was wondering about the fan noise and you totally nailed it! thanks!!!
This has to be the most thorough and best review of the P15. I especially liked the bit where you showed that the GPU can be upgraded.
Thanks Brynjar Hartmannsson I appreciate your feedback and directing what was useful to you so I know in the future I see things like this to continue to include them in the review videos, stay safe and take care =).
Great video, especially appreciated the fact that the reviewed version is not a top configuration as is the case in most other videos on youtube!
Thanks for the feedback Ruslan Valeev, a lot of the times I usually get low to mid spec workstations to start with. I will try get more popular ones this year as best I can, atm draw of the luck. Stay healthy and safe =).
I'm looking for a used thinkpad and this review is super duper amazing helpful
Glad it could help!
Hey, I just wanted to drop by to thank you for these in-depth reviews. It really helped me out when I was shopping.
I hope you keep doing them, and I hope you get your hands on a P16!
Thanks for this review, I've been waiting for one about the P15.
You covered it all well. I may wait for a Gen 2 though.
Thanks Bruce, great to get feedback on the video. I'm unsure still when Gen 2 will be expected again Covid has delays massively here in Australia.
I just got this laptop for work so thank you for the great review. Cheers
Thanks for the feedback Jordan and hope the P15 serves you well =)
Wow this thing is a beast! Excellent and very thorough review as always! I am never left with questions after your reviews, because you cover everything so thoroughly and carefully. Thanks so much. 😊
Absolutely my pleasure Mad Catter, thank you very much for the feedback knowing the review videos have be able to cover topics that you may have questions to and that I am heading in the right direction. Cheers mate and keep safe and healthy.
That arm for the laptop is really cool
Thanks MrKitlik, the arms will be soon covered in another video it is part of my upcoming office furniture video series.
Wow the first review showing the modular dGPU! Thank you
Keep the work man👍getting better each video!
Thanks very much Gabriel, and the support, still trying to find better ways to improve on the videos and keep it shorter =)
Best review for the P15 Gen 1 on youtube
An excellent and very thorough analysis of this Lenovo laptop ! Thank you BsianDad !
Welcome Mike, hoping to try get the other variants of the P15 sometime.
Great review, which compliments Lisa at Mobile Tech Review but gives more information such as the temperature & noise.
Appreciate the feedback @sonnygrant374, Lisa is wonderful reviewer and Mobile Tech Review is a channel I admire and watch myself from time to time as she gets more hardware then I do =), she has wonderful personality and information.
Looks like you have been busy! great review mate
Thanks David, aye I need to someday take a week off but knowing my mind will want to work on YT and learn more to make the videos better.
@@BsianTech haha that also sounds like me! On my last holiday my wife actually confiscated my phone so that I couldn’t work 😂
Bahha touche mate, my wife will soon get to that point but atm it's my daughter doing it.
Very thorough review! THANKS!
Excellent review the best I have seen!
Thanks very much Darin =).
Outstanding video. You put a lot of thought into this and I appreciate it. The ability to quickly jump to any review section is priceless. I purchased this machine based on your review and I am totally happy with it. I was wondering if you have the ability to review one of these in the touchscreen model? I have seen conflicting specs on the Lenovo website and others that the touchscreen display is 500 nits, and others show it being 400 nits. I would love to hear your review on this touchscreen model, in both functionality, glare, and what the "Actual" nits would read with the X-Rite scanner. I am a technician and do a lot of work outdoors, I could really use the touchscreen option however with this display being glossy and not matte, I'm quite hesitant on stepping up to the touch model. Thanks again for your efforts!
The G-Spot!!! LMAO! I'm gonna start calling it that! Fantastic review, well done.
What a great effort you have put into this video i really appericiate your work. First time viewer just subscribed for later videos. Thanks mate
Hey Man, great review ! I bought the P15 with the Quadro T1000 Graphics card and i would like to know if i could potentially upgrade the graphics card in the future. You said that theoratically one could upgrade it, so could i actually buy a Quadro RTX 3000 and upgrade it or is it just theory? If yes where can i buy the GPU ?
Great review thanks a lot!! Helped me decide on the p15! 😁
Fantastic review. Extremely thorough.
Excelente canal, muy detallada y exhaustiva la revisión. Espero que tengas millones de suscriptores que valoren la calidad de tus videos. Saludos desde Siberia!
Thank you for the review!
Compared to P15v gen 1, what would you recommend? And what is the difference?
Amazing review as always. Thank you for your dedication to providing such great analyses. You have been a great help to me in looking for a laptop that can keep up with the CAD requirements at work.
Pleasure that I can assist with your research on finding a new workstation for your work. Which CAD program do you run Allan? I'm not any expert in CAD but I love listening and learning from the professionals.
@@BsianTech primarily Solidworks 2019 and sometimes 2016, though sometimes Autocad gets thrown in for specific formats.
A funny thing about Solidworks is that it has SEVERE internal limits. You can have 128 gigs of ram, but if more than 12 gigs are used in total, reguardless of what programs are using what allocations, Solidworks becomes entirely inoperable. It also continually snatches up GDI objects as it runs which is interesting to watch. After it surpasses Windows limits, it dies, though that can be 'fixed' by adjusting the max GDI object limit set in the BIOS. Also, it can't clean ot it's own registries. Every part/assembly/drawing opened and closed leaves registry entries that can only be cleaned out by restarting the computer.
Long story short, the CPU, GPU, and ram speed are important, but not ram quantity. Physical memory is nice, but due to the number of full restarts needed in a day (usually 2-10), reboot speed is also a significant factor. Current iterations of Solidworks tend to only use a single or a small number of cores, so clock speed is also more valuable than total core counts (Solidworks, I think in 2020, tried to explain that this is a good thing, and advertised that the current version only used a single core reguardless of how many you had.).
As ironic as it may seem, I think a curious programmer may get more enjoyment from watching the program struggle in its own bad memory management than a designer.
I'm not saying the program is 'bad', you can make a chain of dozens of parts mechanically mated together and drag it in real time, all physics calculations happening in moments, but one you let go and try to move it again, prepare for minutes or hours of lag as the program struggles to perform the last operation in any way. That is, if it doesn't crash first.
Actually, on that note, I believe the optional setup for running Autocad would be:
4 matching ram sticks with tight timing, at least 16 gigs, but more than that won't help Solidworks
Two fast nvme m.2 drives in raid 0, preferably with a total of 250 gigs or more
At least one thunderbolt usb port
And fast processors, with the ability to upgrade CPU and GPU in the future
Those are the current specs that I think most well informed Solidworks users will be interested in.
That being said, not all CAD programs are the same. This is all purely based on Solidworks.
Clarification
So, all of the work computers we have and both home computers originally used for info run on 16gb of ram. A computer with more ram did allow Solidworks to use more. I must, therefore, clarify that more ram would be an improvement in addition to ram speed.
Thanks @Allan Roberts for the well detailed explanations this has help me understand Solidworks more and what to try align more tests for future reviews. I did have a feeling that Solidworks was more single core driven along with number of other apps I have come across and hence I try add in that processor behavior section to give a better idea along with the thermals if possible.
Also reading the ideal setup for SW, I was wondering the thunderbolt port for? Just transferring project data between computers or is it used for other tasks?
U did a good job reviewing solid. However cna u clarify why there are 2 diff scores on the benchmark test?
Thanks very much @Tok Ads - All talks On Social Digital Marketing, I am guessing the different scores in benchmark test for Passmark and Cinebench that show dual results. The reason is that I tested these under the two different versions of Passmark and Cinebench. Since this video I have now removed the older version. The newer versions of Passmark and Cinebench ran the test differently and also different support was why I had this included in the review videos for people who had scores on the older versions to compare it with.
Great review! Very thorough.
Thank you for the review.
My pleasure hope it was useful.
Great review!! Thanks a lot!
hey @Bsiandad thanks so much for the info on this! I actually just purchased the P15 from Lenovo, and really appreciate your in-depth look at everything! I really have struggled to find a good laptop that fits my needs, which are primarily use for music production and as a current dental student. I can't find much online that I truly understand/is relevant regarding Thinkpads and music production, but I do know what I'm looking for is a quiet laptop with low fan noise that has a lot of RAM, strong processor, and good storage (it seems like graphics aren't too important). It seems like the Thinkpad P15 should check all these boxes! I've had a Dell XPS15 9500 the past 2 months or so that I plan to return- I'm honestly really fed up with Dell and the fans are so loud and I've been having serious latency issues. If you have any suggestions for how I can keep fan noise down on the P15 once I receive it that'd be hugely helpful, considering music production and recording are the most intense tasks I plan to use it for! (If not no worries at all)!
Also, I am just a little concerned based on the comments below about which dock I will need for the P15 to charge and connect all my USBs from my different instruments (digital piano, electronic drums, MIDI keyboard, etc). I actually currently have the Dell WD19TB which has worked well with all these devices via a single Thunderbolt cable, and am hoping I wouldn't have to purchase another dock? The P15 I ordered comes with a 230 W adapter, so maybe that will work with the WD19TB to provide enough power? Hopefully! Maybe @psycl0ptic will know- he seems like he has the power situation figured out well for this laptop! Thanks a ton, excited to see more of your reviews!
@BsianDad @psycl0ptic
Can you suggest which laptop is good for video editing(DaVinci Resolve 17)
Lenovo Think Pad P15v Gen 1 (Intel Xeon W-10855M) or Apple M1 Macbook Pro 13 inch
I have the P15 Gen 2 with Windows 11Pro and Xeon....
My next laptop. Thank you.
Excellent review 👍
Thanks Dove Computer Solutions Ltd, your channel is also doing very well =) thanks for your support!
Nice review for Lenovo Thinkpad P15 Gen 1. Have you benchmark the simulation software with this Workstation ?
Please if you can involve simulation software benchmarking in the review. As many of the CAE engineers get confuse what laptop they need to buy for working in high end simulation like ANSYS or ABAQUS
Hi 1 Shubham Choudhary, thanks for the feedback, I haven't benchmark the Simulation software. You're the first that has asked this and I am very interested to assist and adding this benchmarking to the line up that could help your field as well. Which Benchmark software and test to perform that would be able to perform the require useful information so CAE engineers can make use of? I'm a complete newbie in this field so any information would help.
@@BsianTech It was great to hear from you.
The benchmarking of CAE software for Laptop performance took more time and effort accordingly. I can assist you in that by sending some reports and test specification. Kindly share your email address so that we can work accordingly.
@@ShubhamChoudharySHUBH sounds good, please email to bsiandad@bsiandad.com
you should have mentioned how exactly you're causing the load and what kind of load it is. for example you seem to be loading CPU only, GPU seems to be almost idle. i wish you tested GPU temps too.
Super review!!!
❤️❤️❤️I saw too many reviews but bsian dad is unique! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you very much and I really do appreciate your kind words and support Munawar Shah Afridi =) keep healthy and safe!
nice share review, dude
maybe..next can u review P15 variant touch screen? i really thx for that, GBU
Excellent review.
Great review! And average great laptop!
Is there anyone having problems with the 3.5mm jack? The sound is good but when in having video-conferences the people say my mics volume is really low. I don´t know if is a driver issue or what, as the headphones are working good with other devices.
Thank you for the review on The P15 Gen 1 but truly not having any luck finding GPU upgrade from T1000 to Quadro RTX3080 or better! Any insight would be appreciated? Thank You!
Very good work brother!
Thanks ArunKumar P much appreciated mate.
@@BsianTech can you do a comparison P15 vs P17 and like what can be done with different config options that can help people custom build for their needs.
Thank you a lot for your review. I think the it should be 94WHR instead of 52WHR @9:23
Well done review
THanks very much pin2pine3 =)
Awesome review! Does anyone know what the difference is between the 20SU and 20ST model of the gen 1?
OMG this thing is casually hitting 90C+ under CPU load alone. i wish i knew what'd happen if you loaded GPU too.
Thank you for the good review. Is it possible to connect to to Thunderbolt 3 port the Lenovo thinkvision m14 monitor?
Thank you, yes you should be able to connect the Thinkvisiom M14 portable monitors to any of the two thunderbolt ports from the P15 to it.
Hey! I see the RTX 3070 box in the background! I have this exact model of the card!
LOL its great card and fantastic value atm for my use and has helped a lot in rendering plus has been great pairing with the Ryzen 5950X for video editing. One day I might fire up a game on it to have a look. What do you do with yours?
@@BsianTech I have it paired with the i5-10600KF and 16GB of RAM, I mostly play games on it, for example in GTA Online it was over 60 fps the whole time, other games that I play are just poorly optimized and framerates under 60 happen all the time, but that's not the card's fault. Overall I am very happy with mine.
Nice Nice, is that in 4k when you play games?
@@BsianTech I play on 1440p 144hz.
@@pafawag5b6b5b Nice, I aim to get a 4K monitor of some sort with high refresh rates so can perform the dock tests later on this year. Do you find the 144hz a good upgrade?
Lenovo 👌👌👌
Great to hear Michael approves! =D
I hope Lenovo realized that We The People. Want a Intel H processor or Ryzen laptop processor but having an option without dGPU just the iGPU for flexible option. Hoping you review the T15p, I see it as the Non CAD powerhouse laptop just for power user. But I like the Hinges in the P15 reminds me of my T540p. Sorry guilty for those hinges LOL.
Dear,
Is it possible to charge a Thinkpad P15 Gen1 Workstation with a USB-C charger?
I know the original charger is 170W, but I can't find USB-C chargers in that capacity.
Thanks!
You can charge the P15 G1 but it will be on slow charge and you will get a message from windows to let you know it is on slow charge. If you are running a lot of load on the laptop it will battery drain faster than it will charge just to be aware of.
Have you heard about the problem with track point freezing and only rebooting fixes the problem
thanks
Great video 👌, thank you 😊,
Ravi Peiris M.D.
Seems like he got a free review unit. He's not being critical like someone who spent their own money and not expecting anything from lenovo. However I still believe it's a good machine, but not perfect.
Most of the P15 configs come with 94Whr battery so these battery life metrics do not make much sense to most of us actually.
Would the p15 with i9 and t2000 run hot and void the benefits of the i9 and t2000 over p15 with i7 t1000 model?
I'm in doubt about buying my first workstation. What do you think if you had the choose between the HP zbook fury 15, Lenovo P15 or Dell 7550 with i7-10750, T1000 and 16GB RAM? These are all three top workstations but I can't choose between them. Can you tell in short what the cons and pros are and which one you would buy?
Hi Dr.Rwiena, I haven't played with the HP Zbook Fury 15 in person yet but have a good general idea of it though. So I will attempt your question about those three workstations, Port selection, HP and Dell are good, HP being the winner. Keyboard goes to Lenovo, trackpad goes to HP. Display will be HP too, performance for me would be the Dell. Speakers will be decent tie between HP and Lenovo. In truth it all boils down to the after support for me, which you may get better in each country. All three workstations are built well and all are business class workstation designed to take on the work environment and travelling but if you had to make me pick one which I had to use just the laptop itself without dock and external monitor I would go for the HP, just got the combo of the display, keyboard, trackpad and speaker seems very well balanced to each other.
@@BsianTech I've ordered the HP and I just received it. I'm very happy with my purchase ☺️, thanx for your help!
What should I get If I must choose between a Lenovo p15 Gen 1 i9 64Gb RAM or a MSI WS 66 ?
Work gives me the option to get this laptop with the 1080p screen and quadro p520. I currently have a MacBook Pro and can get another one (2019) 16in model. Which would be the better option? I like the TouchPad on the Mac as it makes using the laptop much easier but 85% of my use case is docked with dual monitor setup. Thanks!
What application do you mainly run @Marcus Hill? Feature wise like display/speakers/trackpad/batterylife 16"MBP is better.
What are your thoughts on the Lenovo T15g?
Hi Jonny M, I would like to get my hands on the T15g to review as well. It's an interesting one, looks very similar to the P15 with I think I suspect only the discrete graphics being the major difference. T15g having the Geforce RTX 2070/2080 Super Max-Q instead of the Quadro T or RTX. Becomes a debate of Geforce vs Quadro again which I have covered a number of times in my live streams. Stability (Quadro) vs Speed (Geforce) is best way to say this, I've used this analogy normally for this. Quadro are like big Semi-Trailer Trucks and Geforce is like a supercar, both will carry load and get from A to B but of course trucks have more capacity to take on more load and are designed to run for reliably 24/7 where as of course the supercar is faster but not designed to take high load and extended operation. So really its up to your budget and if you be working professionally and applications need for stability. I hope that helps.
@@BsianTech Appreciate the reply! That's a good analogy for sure. Will definitely watch a video if you're able to get one :)
I heard from Lenovo (Singapore), the T15g is EOL ( end of life) and my order was cancelled. I took full option for SGD 6700. :( Funny thing is still the product is available in website.
Couldn't be EOL that quick Narendirane Ramakrishnan, it would have only been released last year the T15g, normally a model will stay in circulation for two years and sometimes three years for harder countries to ship to.
@@BsianTech Hmmm... Then I am not sure why Lenovo told like that... They even told me they are gonna remove from the website listing and also working with application team to remove it... I suspect its because of parts non-availability or Lenovo Singapore don't want to put much efforts to import parts from US or overseas to assemble here due to shortage in Singapore stock... But the US version is RTX2080 Super with Max-Q (8GB) and Singapore version(T15g) is just RTX2080 Max-Q (8GB)... But looking forward for newer mobile workstation equipped with RTX3000 series (Not Quadro)... Eventhough I see P15 Gen1 available with RTX Quadro 5000 Max-Q 16GB in Lenovo Singapore but this GPU is not up to the mark when compared to RTX 3000 Series..
Could you please do a review for the P17?
I will do what I can to get my hands on a Lenovo P17 =).
which s/w you use to find heat and fan noise ?
Hi Shoe Pm, I don't use software to measure. I measure with hardware thermal camera and sound level meter instruments.
@@BsianTech Is this machine a P15s Gen 1? I am slightly crunch on the budget, do you think it's worth buying P15s ?
Buddy. I just got one and would like to know about the fans. Does is blows out jus I think one of the sides of the laptop? Did got the right side to blow anything out yet. Can anybody help me?
Bruv, how do I know online whether I'm buying a graphic card for PC or laptop?
I've been looking for days and I don't know how to tell the difference online could you please help me?
I'm looking for RTX 4000 for the ThinkPad p15 GEN 1 LAPTOP
If someon could send me a direct link that would be extra helpful thank you people
Unfortunely Lenovo has remove the specs of this gen 1 model but the graphics for the P15 Gen 1 can range from the Quadro T1000 to RTX2000 - RTX 5000. You will have to check on the description of the laptop which graphics it has been configured with when you are purchasing it. Best way is to ask the seller what is the graphics on the P15 gen 1 they are trying to sell.
That is not what my P15 Gen-1 looks like. Mine has less fan holes, and no access panel
Why is the difference between the P15 and P15s?
Hi, can you please tell me how to reset the battery? Do I need to open the laptop? Thank you in advance for the reply!
At the bottom side of laptop there is a very little hole. You will need a paper clip to poke it in and hold for 10 seconds to reset the power. I created a video to demonstrate how to do this with X1 Carbon but this works for the thinkpad range, ua-cam.com/video/NWJd571ZWXs/v-deo.html . If that doesn't work then you will need to open the laptop to disconnect the battery.
ThinkPad P15v Gen1 whith Intel Xeon W-10855M (6-12) for photo ando video?
@bsiandad thanks for the review, i recently purchased Lenovo P15S 20T4A007AU model from their website.
Its not yet shipped to me, but after placing the order, i learned that it just got 250 nits and 45% Gamut. I should have known it before, i am wondering is it okay or its not worth it at all and better to cancel the order?? Please help
Hi Sree Akuthota, this would depend on your work if you are working on things where colour representation is important or semi important than I would consider cancelling and reordering with a better display.
@@BsianTech thanks for prompt reply, can you please have a quick glimpse at the below specs and advise if its a good one., the $1,998 one. Not sure about the technical numbers on graphic card, and RAM etc., Your reply will be appreciated
www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p-series/P53/p/22WS2WPWP53
@@asvpavan what applications do you run or planning to do with the laptop?
@@BsianTech use large excel files, edit videos or photos (not as a professional), watch movies, and have multiple tabs open like 15+. Coming to apps Python programming, Rapid miner (just machine learning stuff)
@Sree Akuthota yes that configuration will do you great. If you find that the extremely large excel files are crashing or freezing a lot, easy to add in an extra 16GB RAM (I have come across a few excel spreadsheets in my career that require 32GB RAM to run smoothly you will know from the freezing while working on a particular document). The spec you link the computer will be able to handle video/photo editing, surfing web and streaming videos plus programming and ML. Just to give you a note seeing if you are in Australia if you like to use my Lenovo affiliate link it would help me out and the channel, it goes to Lenovo Australia official website and you will still get the awesome deal, I will just receive a little commission but it won't be any extra cost to you. Even if you go choose different items/computers via the link it would help me out. Here is the affiliate link lenovoau.hmqldu.net/EabKjK . Cheers.
Question: Can this device be charged using thunderbolt ? Or USB-C? Or what docking station is available??
M.It you can charge this laptop via the thunderbolt/USB-C ports but it might go on slow charge if you have a small power adapter hooked to the docking station as this laptop does require the 135W for full charging capabilties. Look at the Lenovo thinkpad Thunderbolt 3 gen 2 (or above if in the future new model releases) to provide the full power for docking station.
Very good
I really hope that thinkpad understand that programmer use Home and End button to select line of code 😑😑😑😑
Would changing GPU void warranty?
You show 52 whr on-screen in the battery section, even though the PSREF says it's a 94 WHR battery.
Opps sorry I create templates for that section I remember I needed to recreate that one again has it had rendering problems and I must have forgot to change that value when I recreated that. Thanks for picking it up. I will pin this comment so people know it's meant to say 94 WHr. Thanks @Stewart Stewart =)
Forgot to mention you could use this computer as a weapon to bludgen someone to death if ever put in the situation to defend yourself.
LOL @Eric S I would use the power brick instead at least it has a cord to pull it back plus give more force having longer arc =)
Very gud explaination ,
I have a P15 i7 , 16 gb Ram and RTX3000 with 6 gb Ram graphics card .
Im facing a problem like the display is flashing frequently every 15 or 30 minutes once . There is 2 graphics cards are available one intel UHD and another RTX3000. When both the drivers are active iam facing that problem ;and other way if i active only RTX 3000 MS word and excel responds very slow .
I tried in another way like disable the RTX3000 driver and active Intel UHD it is not detecting external monitor.
If anyone have faced such issues earlier , please support me to resolve
I have encountered the same problem that you have. When I turned off the RTX 3000 and used only Intel UHD, the screen flickering was fixed, but it caused another inconvenience that I couldn't adjust the screen brightness. Then I reinstalled the correct Intel driver on Lenovo homepage for P15 gen 1 series and the problem is completely solved. Looks like updating Intel graphic card caused the conflict (I guess when I updated windows and via Intel software)
Ok so I have since found out that you can actually upgrade the GPU as it is attached to a modular daughterboard
next I need to find out if I can actually upgrade the CPU does anybody know?
How do you rate the P15 against the Dell 7550.
I bought a 7550 with an i9-10885h,32gb ram, 1tb, T2000, HD 4K screen. (Didn't even come with finger print scanner everything is extra) It lasted 4 days before endless problems. (crashed 4 times with basic office and email, temps ran to 80 degrees just on normal usage) Then took Dell 5 weeks to do a refund to the company I bought it from.
Terrible customer service.( even though I had the most expensive customer care service paid for on purchase)
I am now looking at a Lenovo P15 with Xeon 10885, 32gb ram 1tb h/d, RTX3000, 4k non touch screen.
How do you rate thermals, build quality and 4k screen against Dell. Must admit I have had Lenovo T series for over 10 years and they last the longest and never give hassles.
Dell 7550 ran super hot and super noisy and that was only office and internet (was faulty) also cost 6000 USD
IMO David, the thermals on the 7550 was better than the P15, sorry to hear you had a bad experience with Dell's aftersales support. The 7550 may feel hot but it would run it's fan much higher at higher speeds than the P15. So the P15 was quieter but of course you pay the price of performance for that quieter operation. There has been cases where the thermal paste hasn't been applied nicely in the 7550 and so runs hotter than usual which I suspect in your case.
As for the P15 thermals are okay, could be improved if we could control fan speed better. Build quality wise much the sameness of the Dell, all built to be serviced lol and as for the display I think Dell have better 4k IMO but with a huge but if Lenovo brought back that built in color meter which they had in the P52 I would easily say Lenovo.
What do you think about the Xeon W-10855M, Quadro RTX 3000, 32gb version?
That will do good work for CAD FluX XluF, what are the main apps you run on the computer if you don't mind me asking?
@@BsianTech solidworks, NX, and matlab/simulink. Maybe have a game too
@@user-hx1cz8lm2s Oh yes that will be fine for all of that =).
What was his exact configuration?
I think he has the entry model, Intel i7 6-core 10750h and the Quadro T1000 GPU with the non-touchscreen 1080p display.
La pantalla tiene PWM?
Does this laptop have Nvidia Optimus
I am using this product; I am wondering which USB_C connecting to the USB_C docking station?
You can use any of the two USB-C port.
@@BsianTech thanks for the reply, my model is T15 g gen1, this model has 3 USB-C Ports, including Thunderbolt™ 3 connectors 2X; and USB-C™ ( 3.2 Gen 1) Connector 1X; which one is used connecting to USB-C docker?
I got one. 32 gigs ram.
What is the software that stress test the CPU and RAM?
I currently run BurnInTest from Passmark, it allows stress test of different components of the computer.
What is the build material plastic or aluminium?
The build material of the P15 is neither, it is magnesium alloy. Personally I like the magnesium alloy build, doesn't dint like aluminum and has the durability strength like plastic.
Trying to locate DOCK for this laptop. Can you provide link?
Which country do you live in? Look for lenovo website and search for the Lenovo ThinkPad Thunderbolt Dock 3 Gen 2 with 230 Watt.
I have this laptop but with lower specs, and it has been working great for normal use and things like programming. However, in terms of gaming, it used to run fine at 60 fps with low settings. but recently after like 10 minutes of gaming the fps suddenly drops drastically, and I have found that the cause of this is that the CPU throttles to very low speeds (like from 4 GHz to 0.8GHz) even though the temperature is fine. Do you know what could be causing this problem?
Hi Muhammad, I didn't experience the throttling on the p15 when I had it. What I have found which you will see soon when I upload on the X13 i5 version I encounter the same issue as yourself after 3-10mins when the computer is on load it will throttle the processor to 0.8ghz and won't bring it up till it cools down a bit, even though it's not crazy hot. I going to have a chat with Lenovo regarding this finding as I tested this on 3 separate X13.
@@BsianTech ok I will be waiting for your video. By the way, today I decided to try gaming without my charger plugged in, and for some reason it was working fine on 60 fps low settings for as long as the battery lasted......
I have a P53 and the same thing happens when the laptop is on battery or not given enough wattage (e.g. the workstation dock only pass through 170w to my 230w machine when only the 230w power brick is used), so worth checking your power supply and power settings. The pinned post at the top explain the docking station issue in detail.
(Edit: if the issue goes away when unplugged I suspect it could be due to your power mode setting accessed via the windows battery icon)
@@zeli but my power settings are the same for plugged in and not plugged in. I think the problem could be dust in the vents/fan perhaps (which might heat up more when plugged in?) So I'll try dusting my laptop and see if the issue goes away
@@MuhammadAhsanKaleem I doubt it will be due to dust in the vent / fan, it shouldn't heat up when plugged in, you could check it by propping it up using a book / stand, and P15 I believe have better thermal design than P53. Also, the power mode setting (the one that allows you to slide accross when you click the windows battery icon, not the lenovo vantage one) is the one I'm talking about, if you set that to "best performance" it should unleash the full power (unless you have an underrated charger, which I doubt). Also I think P53 used to have this CPU throttling issue, the link doesn’t work but the topic is P53 Performance Issues - Thermal/Power Throttling?. Hope it helps.
What is the difference: P15 vs T15?
Main difference is the discrete graphics in the P15 is NVIDIA Quadro option which is optimised and more stable for professional work as they are usually certified with the common professional softwares where as the T15 will have option of the NVIDIA GeForce.
@@BsianTech thank you very much. More power to your channel
How many times did he say "computer" in this video? Lol