Most teachers are far more committed to getting in line with their leftist teacher's union, and getting students in line with the same leftist ideology than teaching students objective, factual history, or any other objective subject matter..
I've driven over the Huron River on Jefferson so many times, and had no idea remnants of the old corduroy road were right there. You can even see them on Google maps. Awesome! Thank you, Chuck and Poppins!
You guys bring out the best of Michigan. It’s really an overlooked state with a very rich history. Sometimes I think it’s intentionally overlooked. You make people see it’s importance. Thank you.
I was born and raised in Michigan, however, I have lived the majority of my life outside of Michigan. What I want to say is that you guys really bring out the best of the state. It really has a lot of rich history. Thank you!
Yes as a young boy that old denim road was right in my back yard I know it very well, right on harbin Dr . Great history lesson, God bless you both and thank you for all you do❤
Have you looked into the Territorial Road? That's 200 miles of corduroy built by hand around 1830. Sections still exist here in southern Van Buren County though they've been paved.
Always love your content and research into the Michigan that may not be so obvious! I always get an appreciation of how tough previous generations were
Great video. About 5 years ago I was riding my bike from Kenton, Ohio to Lima, Ohio. I stumbled across several historical markers marking Hulls Trace. There are 8 areas along his route marked by stone columns from the old Hardin County Courthouse. They are all west of Kenton, Ohio.
Another great presentation. I have been wanting to see that for quite some time but you brought it to me via video. So much work to build that road. It is mind boggling.
I wonder if the cops have noticed your vehicle going to out-of-the-way places and are making sure you are not meeting with drug dealers or something. Thanks for these videos! I'm down here in Mississippi and find them fascinating!
Thanks! Sometimes these little asides that we have never heard of help to shape and understanding of our history so much more than those well-known places.
Well said Denny! We agree. Personally, this endeavor and learning the history of these lesser known sites has revealed a much more interesting and more "human" story. Thanks for the tip!! It is much appreciated!
I just subscribed to this channel and am binge watching your videos. I love your music choices for these as well. It sets the mood nicely. Native Michigander here - thanks for these fascinating UA-cam journeys!
I know what you mean. A few years ago I relocated here in NW NJ to just off a turnpike road more than 200 years old, and then as I contemplated that, I thought, WTF, where I'm from in the Bronx we had roads older than that! And how terrain and the necessities of war call for such things, and how today you look at the site of a stand by the militia against the British landing force where Tremont Ave. now crosses Westchester Creek, and scratch your head as to why control of that point could've been important...and then realize that back then, half the Bronx was difficult swamp -- that they were still filling in during my lifetime!
About 30 years ago I was walking along the Detroit River’s edge at Elizabeth Park in Trenton. I saw what looks exactly as what you show along the Huron River. I figured it was once a road. I wonder if it’s part of Hull’s Interstate? Sadly, a marina has been built in that area. The water may be too high at the moment to see it should it still exist. Thank you! Love your channel.
Outstanding video! I am learning so much from you folks. I actually grew up in the Great Black Swamp and was hired by USDA to help keep it well drained. We live not far in Montcalm County now. Farm in Edmore area.
I built a very small section of a Corduroy road through a couple wet areas on my land here in Maine. I had a chainsaw and Mini Excavator to do the job, and it was still a lot of work. But, when buried and the dirt washes in around the logs, it’s really solid. I couldn’t imagine 50 miles by hand.
I spent 7 months, on and off, in Monroe this past year+. My late mother in law lived next to Kentucky ave which was part of Hull's trace. The battle of the river raisin took place nearby and there's historic signs all around town.
Hope you had had a chance during this trip to visit the site of the Battle of Monguagon in my home town, the bustling metropolis of Trenton, MI. A "victory" for the US under almost comical circumstances.
We camped in there with the scouts. You got it right about Fort Meigs. Only way to get around the great lakes back then was to take a ship, from port to port. That was the bus back then. They are walleye fishing there now, and I think about how Col. Dudley took rafts down the river to that fort. Also, there are always cops down there at Buttonwood Park.
I found you through my dad who watches your videos everytime you post. Lol I live in Hardin County, Ohio nearby where there are a few markers as to where the trail went through. They marked the areas in 1912 and when they tore the old courthouse down, they used the old pillars as site markers. I didn't know any of this until my wife and I did more research after watching this video.
@RestlessViking here is a short copy of what was said about the pillars: With the 100 year anniversary of the War of 1812 approaching, Hardin County found itself making plans to tear down their old courthouse. The county leaders decided to keep the front stone columns from the old courthouse so that they could use them as markers for "Hull's Trail," erecting them as trail markers in 1912, as they celebrated their county's role in the 100 year anniversary of the War of 1812
Long ago I was told several Michigan roads were originally corduroy. US12 was mentioned as an example of a corduroy road. I am not sure if it was an accurate retelling of the history, but the storyteller seemed pretty convinced.
Large musical groups comprised of adults (chorus, orchestras bands) often ban perfume and colognes. Some people wear it to excess and some have failing noses and don't realize how much they reek.
That is an Excellent question. I was referring to Fort Detroit - which can be very confusing. I believe there were two Forts with the name "Detroit" - in Detroit (all before Fort Wayne in Detroit). The first fort was built by the French and occupied by British and French before 1796 - often called "Fort Pontchartrain du Detroit" or Fort Detroit. During the War 1812 there was "Fort Lernoult" aka Fort Detroit aka Fort Shelby. General Hull referred to it as Fort Detroit (so I did in the video) and it was the Fort that he surrendered to the British. The Fort was originally built by the Brits in 1779 and called Fort Lernoult. When the American's got it back in 1813, they renamed it Fort Shelby. The original site of that fort is centered on current day Fort (M-85) and Shelby streets Here is the story of that "Fort Detroit" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Shelby_(Michigan) Fort Wayne - which is known by most Michiganders as the Fort in Detroit is the most well known and most recent. It was actually Detroit's third fort. It was built well after the War of 1812 - from 1842-51. The Wikipedia history of Fort Wayne actually has a good history of Detroit's three forts in the Fort Wayne history. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Wayne_(Detroit)
By piling so much dirt on it for successive roads, it pushed the old corduroy road down. You can tell by the logs curving up. Also, the original road was built at or slightly below the water line and dirt was put on top.
@@RestlessViking yeah. so does michigan. just said in jest. problem today is no one can laugh at themselves. we need to be less serious. Love your show. you do a great job. keep it up!
You think they accomplished a lot back then? Well, last week I went to the bank, post office, and dry cleaner all in the same day. So don't tell me how hard they had it back in the old days.😎
@RestlessViking yes, correct, the maps in your videos are showing up to and not past or just past. I am enjoying the videos, ohio, mich border is my next of the woods
@@speeedskater Thanks for watching, glad to have you around. And thanks for the discussion. I've checked many sources since you first mentioned this. The map in the link actually shows the swamp doing the same thing as the map in the video (the boarder outline is the Maumee Watershed, the Great Black Swamp is smaller and actually only goes up to the river). While I have heard the claims that it went beyond the river (and for sure there were swamps), according to most historians (including the director at Fort Meigs) the Black Swamp stopped at the river. The GIS I used for the map in the video came from Ohio State University's history department and seems to match most of the sources I've checked.
@RestlessViking oak openings metro parks are still swamp even with drainage ditches running though. I know ohio state says at the maumee river. All our county ( fulton, created from Lucas and Henry and part of williams ) states the black swamp. I feel guilty making you search . Watching the rest of your videos,
@@speeedskater Not at all, I enjoying looking into things. We are going to do a video soon on the Black Swamp, so we want to get it right. (As best we can).
The prefix "intra-" means "within," and "inter-" means "between" or "among". Interstates cross territory/state boundaries. Interstate 75 for instance - crosses many states. Intrastate means within a state. www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/what-difference-between-interstate-commerce-and-intrastate-commerce
So at the time was this just a low lying wetland that they built this road across the river? I assume there would have been a bridge across the actual river somewhere?
Great Question! According to the National Park Service history, there was a bridge (or two) at the Huron River. But so much has changed, we couldn't really figure out where the bridge actually was. It looks like these logs were on an marshy island in the river where the river channels flow around it on the north and south.. Where we stood, at the end of the video (looking down the road), a main channel was actually behind us and most likely where a bridge crossed. Also a quarter of a mile north of that location is another channel where they most likely had a bridge. If you search Hull's Trace (on Google Maps)- you can see the river flows around the logs and an island and Jefferson Rd is "bridged" across the channels. On the Google satellite of the location, you can see the logs in the water on the west side of the island.
RESTLESS VIKING(S) Chuck n Poppins. Love your local lore Plus, side note My beard grows in the super wave style, roughly same height and build But your hippie self has more hair on top. WTF SO NOT FAIR N yes, my mom told me life was fair
Good Question. It looks like the road was named after the fabric. . . From the Smithsonian Magazine: Corduroy roads, which get their name because of their resemblance to the linear fabric, are among the earliest types of manufactured thoroughfares, write M.G. Lay and James E. Vance in Ways of the World: A History of the World’s Roads and of the Vehicles that Used Them. From Britannica: "thick, cotton stuff with a corded or ridged surface," 1774, probably from cord + obsolete 17c. duroy, name of a coarse fabric made in England, which is of unknown origin. Folk etymology is from *corde du roi "the king's cord," but this is not attested in French, where the term for the cloth was velours à côtes. As an adjective from 1789. Applied in U.S. to a road of logs across swampy ground (1780s) on similarity of appearance.
Every teacher in the state of Michigan should be subscribed to your channel.
I agree
Most teachers are far more committed to getting in line with their leftist teacher's union, and getting students in line with the same leftist ideology than teaching students objective, factual history, or any other objective subject matter..
I agree as well. They should specifically show this channel when they know they will need a substitute. Kids would actually learn something ☺️🩷
They don’t care about these things they want boys to be girls
Totally agree!
That roads in better shape than most of the other roads in Michigan
And yet better than most of Texas and Missouri. Just sayin'..... ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
Yes, I'm wondering if they had intermittent tolls???
Absolutely agree -- where are the pot holes?
Much more clay in the subgrade in Ohio. Michigan soils have a lot more sand.
I've driven over the Huron River on Jefferson so many times, and had no idea remnants of the old corduroy road were right there. You can even see them on Google maps. Awesome! Thank you, Chuck and Poppins!
I know it's been 7 months, but I'm just finding this video. What road is he on at 5:00. I live by Metro Park. Can't figure out that street.
Seeing those logs really brings this video to life. Great job, guys. Thank you.
Chuck you are a great historian ... lov your vids..
More of a story teller, not a formal historian.
But thanks John!
You guys bring out the best of Michigan. It’s really an overlooked state with a very rich history. Sometimes I think it’s intentionally overlooked. You make people see it’s importance. Thank you.
I was born and raised in Michigan, however, I have lived the majority of my life outside of Michigan. What I want to say is that you guys really bring out the best of the state. It really has a lot of rich history. Thank you!
Yes as a young boy that old denim road was right in my back yard I know it very well, right on harbin Dr . Great history lesson, God bless you both and thank you for all you do❤
I've been waiting for this video. Thank you for sharing.
That’s a crazy amount of work and real history. Thanks for sharing
Aye Aye - Viking. My comment to help improve the algorithm.
Have you looked into the Territorial Road? That's 200 miles of corduroy built by hand around 1830. Sections still exist here in southern Van Buren County though they've been paved.
Yes. Of course, there are hundreds of cool bits of history in competition. I would imagine that we will get to it someday!
Fascinating, I have never heard of this!!
Wow. Another wonderful glimpse of Great Lakes state history!!! Thanks.
Having been on a few corduroy roads, I cannot recommend them. Yet I'm glad they're around!
P.S. Nice music for this! 😎✌️
To think that the road was Michigan's interstate. Fascinating history.
Thanks to whitmer that is still in about as good of shape as half our other interstates.
Very interesting, thanx.
Great story. I've never heard of that road, thanks.
Pretty amazing find right there, well done folks
man you gotta do one about the toledo war
Always love your content and research into the Michigan that may not be so obvious! I always get an appreciation of how tough previous generations were
Wow! Thanks a bunch!
You make the kind of videos that keep me coming back to UA-cam!!
Very interesting, I had no idea that there was a place you could still see an old corduroy road.
Cool stuff, Chuck !
Hope you and Popins had a great thanksgiving.
Stay safe and warm !!!
Always enjoy your videos.
Great video. About 5 years ago I was riding my bike from Kenton, Ohio to Lima, Ohio. I stumbled across several historical markers marking Hulls Trace. There are 8 areas along his route marked by stone columns from the old Hardin County Courthouse. They are all west of Kenton, Ohio.
Canton?
@@georgeelder8415 the markers are just west of Kenton, ohio
Yes sir. We ran into 3 markers just making the drive from Fort Megis to the Huron River.
Another great presentation. I have been wanting to see that for quite some time but you brought it to me via video. So much work to build that road. It is mind boggling.
Amazing and fascinating. Thanks for another enjoyable history lesson.
I wonder if the cops have noticed your vehicle going to out-of-the-way places and are making sure you are not meeting with drug dealers or something.
Thanks for these videos! I'm down here in Mississippi and find them fascinating!
Yes, these two look pretty sketchy, ya know, eh??? ;-)
That is a really kool bit of history and story! Thank you!!
One of your best shows, amazing! Poppin and the Vike never let us down...:)
Thanks! Sometimes these little asides that we have never heard of help to shape and understanding of our history so much more than those well-known places.
Well said Denny! We agree. Personally, this endeavor and learning the history of these lesser known sites has revealed a much more interesting and more "human" story.
Thanks for the tip!! It is much appreciated!
I just subscribed to this channel and am binge watching your videos. I love your music choices for these as well. It sets the mood nicely. Native Michigander here - thanks for these fascinating UA-cam journeys!
Welcome aboard!
It makes me sooooo happy you covered this. I excitedly took my daughters and wife to see this, and they were not excited like I was!!
I know what you mean. A few years ago I relocated here in NW NJ to just off a turnpike road more than 200 years old, and then as I contemplated that, I thought, WTF, where I'm from in the Bronx we had roads older than that! And how terrain and the necessities of war call for such things, and how today you look at the site of a stand by the militia against the British landing force where Tremont Ave. now crosses Westchester Creek, and scratch your head as to why control of that point could've been important...and then realize that back then, half the Bronx was difficult swamp -- that they were still filling in during my lifetime!
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Miami Erie Canal next summer would be cool. Tina and I mostly followed it from Dayton to past St Marys OH once.
wow, never even heard of his,thank you im gonna have to check this out!
Enjoyable and educational.
This is SOOOOOOOOOOO amazing...thank everyone that did this! Holy wha eh! (from da Yoop)
Eat a pasty for us Yooper girl!
Fascinating! I had never heard this history before.
About 30 years ago I was walking along the Detroit River’s edge at Elizabeth Park in Trenton. I saw what looks exactly as what you show along the Huron River. I figured it was once a road. I wonder if it’s part of Hull’s Interstate? Sadly, a marina has been built in that area. The water may be too high at the moment to see it should it still exist.
Thank you! Love your channel.
Plus we’re not from the Great Lakes originally but I think we love them as much as you two
This channel is hands down the best on UA-cam! All other channels plz shut down thank you
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I really need to go see this. Thank you
Outstanding video! I am learning so much from you folks. I actually grew up in the Great Black Swamp and was hired by USDA to help keep it well drained. We live not far in Montcalm County now. Farm in Edmore area.
Another great story! Thank you for sharing this important piece of American history!
Another great, educational video on something I've never heard of
Thanks Chuck and Poppins!
😊Just enjoy so much. The story are awesome.
I built a very small section of a Corduroy road through a couple wet areas on my land here in Maine. I had a chainsaw and Mini Excavator to do the job, and it was still a lot of work. But, when buried and the dirt washes in around the logs, it’s really solid. I couldn’t imagine 50 miles by hand.
Agreed!
Interesting, right in my area
Great lesson. Outstanding presentation. Thank you so much
Oh my gosh! I was there a few years ago being amazed by the log road !
GREAT VIDEO !
BRAVO !!!!!!!
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Awesome video and great presentation. Thank you.
Good to see you in my area, love the channel. Look in to the Underground Railroad/bootlegger tunnels in Gibraltar mi.
very cool, and think today in Michigan we cant make a road last 2 years😂
I spent 7 months, on and off, in Monroe this past year+. My late mother in law lived next to Kentucky ave which was part of Hull's trace. The battle of the river raisin took place nearby and there's historic signs all around town.
I’m so crazy for watching you two. But I ant help myself……. Fantastic
Thanks!
Fascinating story! Great video as usual!
Badass Episode
Thanks for sharing this history.
YESSSSSS NEW VIDEOOOOO
Hope you had had a chance during this trip to visit the site of the Battle of Monguagon in my home town, the bustling metropolis of Trenton, MI. A "victory" for the US under almost comical circumstances.
We camped in there with the scouts. You got it right about Fort Meigs. Only way to get around the great lakes back then was to take a ship, from port to port. That was the bus back then. They are walleye fishing there now, and I think about how Col. Dudley took rafts down the river to that fort. Also, there are always cops down there at Buttonwood Park.
I found you through my dad who watches your videos everytime you post. Lol I live in Hardin County, Ohio nearby where there are a few markers as to where the trail went through. They marked the areas in 1912 and when they tore the old courthouse down, they used the old pillars as site markers. I didn't know any of this until my wife and I did more research after watching this video.
I didn't know that. That is some interesting info regarding using the old pillars. Thanks.
@RestlessViking here is a short copy of what was said about the pillars:
With the 100 year anniversary of the War of 1812 approaching, Hardin County found itself making plans to tear down their old courthouse. The county leaders decided to keep the front stone columns from the old courthouse so that they could use them as markers for "Hull's Trail," erecting them as trail markers in 1912, as they celebrated their county's role in the 100 year anniversary of the War of 1812
Thank you two for such Wonderful History Trips and for taking us along with you :)
I never knew about this wonderful piece of history. Thank you very much for making this video!
Dropped in and took some photos down there at the Jefferson Road location today.....your second destination.
Long ago I was told several Michigan roads were originally corduroy. US12 was mentioned as an example of a corduroy road. I am not sure if it was an accurate retelling of the history, but the storyteller seemed pretty convinced.
Thanks!
Although the swamp is drained its still called Ohio. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
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Surly Puffin!! Thanks a bunch!!
great detective work...
Large musical groups comprised of adults (chorus, orchestras bands) often ban perfume and colognes. Some people wear it to excess and some have failing noses and don't realize how much they reek.
I can believe that road is a Michigan highway. Looks like a soon to be construction zone. Watch for lane closures and traffic back-ups.
You can actually see traces of the logs on Google Earth satellite view!
So when your referring to Fort Detroit are your referring to Fort Wayne in Detroit?
That is an Excellent question.
I was referring to Fort Detroit - which can be very confusing. I believe there were two Forts with the name "Detroit" - in Detroit (all before Fort Wayne in Detroit). The first fort was built by the French and occupied by British and French before 1796 - often called "Fort Pontchartrain du Detroit" or Fort Detroit. During the War 1812 there was "Fort Lernoult" aka Fort Detroit aka Fort Shelby. General Hull referred to it as Fort Detroit (so I did in the video) and it was the Fort that he surrendered to the British. The Fort was originally built by the Brits in 1779 and called Fort Lernoult. When the American's got it back in 1813, they renamed it Fort Shelby. The original site of that fort is centered on current day Fort (M-85) and Shelby streets Here is the story of that "Fort Detroit" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Shelby_(Michigan)
Fort Wayne - which is known by most Michiganders as the Fort in Detroit is the most well known and most recent. It was actually Detroit's third fort. It was built well after the War of 1812 - from 1842-51. The Wikipedia history of Fort Wayne actually has a good history of Detroit's three forts in the Fort Wayne history.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Wayne_(Detroit)
I know of a Voyageur cabin site that is unknown.
Sterling Ville was in the late 1800's and Pickford come about in early 1900's
Curious about why it is underwater now? Was a dam built?
By piling so much dirt on it for successive roads, it pushed the old corduroy road down. You can tell by the logs curving up. Also, the original road was built at or slightly below the water line and dirt was put on top.
Great black swamp.... Ohio.....YUP. sounds right. WL from Michigan. lol.
Ohio is always takin it on the chin here! 🤔🤷😄
@@RestlessViking yeah. so does michigan. just said in jest. problem today is no one can laugh at themselves. we need to be less serious. Love your show. you do a great job. keep it up!
You think they accomplished a lot back then? Well, last week I went to the bank, post office, and dry cleaner all in the same day. So don't tell me how hard they had it back in the old days.😎
🤣😂🤣 I even had time to fit in a grocery store trip, two second hand shops, a "winter" garage sale and looked at paint chips at the hardware store.
black swamp did include both sides of the maumee river
www.researchgate.net/profile/Kimberly-Panozzo/publication/339688879/figure/fig4/AS:933603827539969@1599599906420/3-The-Great-Black-Swamp-Historical-extent-of-the-swamp-contrasted-with-the-Maumee-River.ppm
@RestlessViking yes, correct, the maps in your videos are showing up to and not past or just past. I am enjoying the videos, ohio, mich border is my next of the woods
@@speeedskater Thanks for watching, glad to have you around. And thanks for the discussion. I've checked many sources since you first mentioned this.
The map in the link actually shows the swamp doing the same thing as the map in the video (the boarder outline is the Maumee Watershed, the Great Black Swamp is smaller and actually only goes up to the river). While I have heard the claims that it went beyond the river (and for sure there were swamps), according to most historians (including the director at Fort Meigs) the Black Swamp stopped at the river. The GIS I used for the map in the video came from Ohio State University's history department and seems to match most of the sources I've checked.
@RestlessViking oak openings metro parks are still swamp even with drainage ditches running though. I know ohio state says at the maumee river. All our county ( fulton, created from Lucas and Henry and part of williams ) states the black swamp. I feel guilty making you search . Watching the rest of your videos,
@@speeedskater Not at all, I enjoying looking into things. We are going to do a video soon on the Black Swamp, so we want to get it right. (As best we can).
The cops maybe following you Restless Viking. Perhaps you have a Michigan license plate.
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Should be called 'intrAstate' road. Since it crosses territory/state boundaries.
The prefix "intra-" means "within," and "inter-" means "between" or "among". Interstates cross territory/state boundaries. Interstate 75 for instance - crosses many states. Intrastate means within a state.
www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/what-difference-between-interstate-commerce-and-intrastate-commerce
So at the time was this just a low lying wetland that they built this road across the river? I assume there would have been a bridge across the actual river somewhere?
Great Question!
According to the National Park Service history, there was a bridge (or two) at the Huron River. But so much has changed, we couldn't really figure out where the bridge actually was. It looks like these logs were on an marshy island in the river where the river channels flow around it on the north and south.. Where we stood, at the end of the video (looking down the road), a main channel was actually behind us and most likely where a bridge crossed. Also a quarter of a mile north of that location is another channel where they most likely had a bridge. If you search Hull's Trace (on Google Maps)- you can see the river flows around the logs and an island and Jefferson Rd is "bridged" across the channels. On the Google satellite of the location, you can see the logs in the water on the west side of the island.
RESTLESS VIKING(S)
Chuck n Poppins.
Love your local lore
Plus, side note
My beard grows in the super wave style, roughly same height and build
But your hippie self has more hair on top. WTF SO NOT FAIR
N yes, my mom told me life was fair
😂 Well. . . I'm not sure I would call that "hair". More like long fuzz. . .
@@RestlessViking HEY HEY ……pipe down hippie
And if you’re going to live in my house; YOU WILL CUT YOUR HAIR.
SHOWOFF 💈💇♂️
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When men werent afraid to be men and accomplish what must be done. Todays men for the most part wouldnt and couldnt do this monumental task
That Opening Was Pure Poetry!
So Is Corduroy Fabric Named After Corduroy Roads?
Another Great Piece!
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Good Question. It looks like the road was named after the fabric. . .
From the Smithsonian Magazine:
Corduroy roads, which get their name because of their resemblance to the linear fabric, are among the earliest types of manufactured thoroughfares, write M.G. Lay and James E. Vance in Ways of the World: A History of the World’s Roads and of the Vehicles that Used Them.
From Britannica:
"thick, cotton stuff with a corded or ridged surface," 1774, probably from cord + obsolete 17c. duroy, name of a coarse fabric made in England, which is of unknown origin. Folk etymology is from *corde du roi "the king's cord," but this is not attested in French, where the term for the cloth was velours à côtes. As an adjective from 1789. Applied in U.S. to a road of logs across swampy ground (1780s) on similarity of appearance.
Those old roads look way better than the so called governor WHITLERS ROADS!!!!Thanks for your video!!!! AWESOME AS ALWAYS!!
Is any of that road a designated Michigan historic site
The National Park Service is in charge of the Huron River Site that we visited at the end of the movie.