Bouncy was straight up way worse with Target Bounce. More bounces just meant more opportunities for Rik to get hit by his own bullet and poison himself. At least with Trickster he'd have a chance of one-shotting Jas due to the increased power.
@@MegabombGamer-rb5kh i mean it would have also one shot rik. i think the thing is rik didn't realize that price meant trickster when he was talking about extra bounces lol. but yeah it was so painful ;-; i would have loved to see trickster there ;-;
@@MegabombGamer-rb5kh well. it doesnt matter cause rik doesnt even understand "target bouncing" anyway. either way. its not gonna change anything, he's still going to shoot the ground and got shot by his own bullet anyway
Hey, guys, other people have mentioned Rik's Target Bounce issue, so I won't bore you with that, but I'm not sure if you've noticed that those squares at the top right can be hovered over to see the currently active cards in full. That way, you don't need to try to remember all the little side-effects of an entire hand or get confused by two or three cards with the same abbreviation!
@@KingTaltia Ta? Taste of blood, Target bounce or Tactical reload. De? Decay, Defender or Demonic pact. Qu? Quick reload or quick shot... ...And so on. Pretty many ones aren't easy-to-recognize.
When he had Radiance he should have taken Decay to make the poison take longer to kill him. Going from 'dead in 3 seconds' to 'dead in 7 seconds' would have made a huge difference.
4:18 you picked up Target Bounce, not just Bouncing bullets So what happens is that your bullets go towards the nearest visible player after they bounce, which can be yourself It's kinda like homing + bouncing
They completely understood this concept though. The thing they didn't understand is that Rik attacked the floor in front of him, which in his view meant it would bounce and continue going forward, rather than bounce and jump back. He was expected it to keep the same direction rather than take a turn, which in all honesty I can understand since in many cases when you shoot in front of yourself, it continues. He just shot a bit too close to himself and that is clearly within the range where it'll just turn around.
That was great! Lol! Radiance has been around for quite a while! One of my favorite builds involves Spray, Mayhem, and Toxic Cloud! It is very self destructive, but if used careful is a nightmare for your opponent! And then if you can get target bounce.......
I like how yall always say "you know what, this time I'm gonna take poison" even though it's the most broken and most often picked card in the entire game 😂
“Huh, poison is pretty good and we pick it all the time, I’m gonna try not to pick it” *gets a ton of bad cards and poison* “You know what, this time I’m gonna take poison”
Why is poison considered OP? Yeah it doesn't have a very effective downside but that could be said of a lot of cards, and it just adds some DoT damage to your shot. You get objectively less that you get from picking Grow or Windup instead. They also increase the damage done but have it as actual burst damage instead of a delayed DoT. I know what I'd rather be hit by if given the choice between my opponent picking Poison, Glass Cannon or Combine... Glass Cannon or Combine would just kill me outright (those two DO have effective downsides but still).
@@AnthanKrufix you can often hit ur opponent with one poison and hide until they die, the problem is thus the total amount of damage that poison and parasite do
@@AnthanKrufix yea its like op but from a state stand point not really but it gets very boring watching the same card get picked by everyone that plays this
10:45 You technically did. Target bounce is essentially bounced and homing shot combined. after the 1st bounce it goes after the 1st visible target. you were the 1st visible target
they should add in a double jump, and a flying agility, and other stuff that are more passive body augmentations, we have tons of bullet and shield stuff.
I played this game for the first time today on remote play, my very first game, my opponent got two grows, while I had sneaky grow. The bullets kept getting so big the screen went white when they exploded and it lagged so much I couldn't see. 10/10 do recommend.
I wonder why nobody ever picks Decay, the fact that all damage is slowed to damage over time can, at the least, give so much extra time to act. Either way, I love Stumpt and this game.
For the first round, the reason that bullet came back to you Rik was because of target bounce. Target bounce makes the bullet aim towards any visible players, the bullet saw you and bounced back to you.
the reason it bounces back sometimes is because if a player is in its line of sight it will bounce to them unless there is another player in its line of sight that is closer
I was playing with my nephews today and i got a possibly OP build. I had Homing bullets, Poison, Barrage, Fast reload and Time detonation. I never had to stop firing because it was such a fast reload.
Rik "I would understand if, like, I had homing and bouncing ( but I didn't)" ..... You mean like the exact description of "Target Bounce", the very first upgrade Rik chose, Says? "Bullets home on to visible targets after bouncing" +1 bounce.
10:52 that is because it did want to its target bounce not just bounce, you know it TARGETS you or the other player(who ever is the closest in line of sight)
The bullets bounced back at you because you had target bounce and because you shot the bullet into the ground right next to you, you were the nearest visible target.
8:33 Rik "The fact that it bounces back to me immediately I don't understand the bounce trajectory." 4:18 The card reads "Bullets aim for VISIBLE targets when bouncing." I understand that to be if you are the only visible target when the bullet bounces then it bounces back at you. hope that helps :)
I like how no one has a clear advantage in this game. Other games one person has a clear advantage i.e Red Bias for Gang Beasts. This game is always different and always exciting. Lately it has always come down to last fight. 👍👍
some of them were new and some of them weren't and also you guys should do tottally accurate battle simulator or for short tabs and also check out tabz it's really fun.
Trickster: does the exact same thing as bouncy but way better
Rik: Imma go bouncy
I KNOW, RIGHT?! IT PHYSICALLY HURT ME TO SEE THAT!
Bouncy was straight up way worse with Target Bounce. More bounces just meant more opportunities for Rik to get hit by his own bullet and poison himself. At least with Trickster he'd have a chance of one-shotting Jas due to the increased power.
@@MegabombGamer-rb5kh i mean it would have also one shot rik. i think the thing is rik didn't realize that price meant trickster when he was talking about extra bounces lol. but yeah it was so painful ;-; i would have loved to see trickster there ;-;
@@MegabombGamer-rb5kh well. it doesnt matter cause rik doesnt even understand "target bouncing" anyway. either way. its not gonna change anything, he's still going to shoot the ground and got shot by his own bullet anyway
I actually raged and threw my phone. I don’t even get mad usually but that was excruciating. That one hurt my mental health.
Hey, guys, other people have mentioned Rik's Target Bounce issue, so I won't bore you with that, but I'm not sure if you've noticed that those squares at the top right can be hovered over to see the currently active cards in full. That way, you don't need to try to remember all the little side-effects of an entire hand or get confused by two or three cards with the same abbreviation!
They also all have easy to recognize two-letter codes. Le? Leech. Bu? Buckshot.
@@KingTaltia bu burst,
Em
Emp
Em
Empower
@@KingTaltia Ta? Taste of blood, Target bounce or Tactical reload. De? Decay, Defender or Demonic pact. Qu? Quick reload or quick shot...
...And so on. Pretty many ones aren't easy-to-recognize.
When he had Radiance he should have taken Decay to make the poison take longer to kill him. Going from 'dead in 3 seconds' to 'dead in 7 seconds' would have made a huge difference.
They literally havent taken decay once yet... and as a stoic build this displeases me immensley
4:18 you picked up Target Bounce, not just Bouncing bullets
So what happens is that your bullets go towards the nearest visible player after they bounce, which can be yourself
It's kinda like homing + bouncing
And it homes in much faster than actual homing.
It is different from homing. Homing constantly slowly turns towards you, target bounce instantly turns towards you, but only when it bounces
They completely understood this concept though. The thing they didn't understand is that Rik attacked the floor in front of him, which in his view meant it would bounce and continue going forward, rather than bounce and jump back. He was expected it to keep the same direction rather than take a turn, which in all honesty I can understand since in many cases when you shoot in front of yourself, it continues. He just shot a bit too close to himself and that is clearly within the range where it'll just turn around.
@@Kakekrusha i mean not really. if is literally visible target it is what differentiates it from other bounces. Visible target can be him.....
@@jonathandpg6115 I never said it couldn't, you may need to re-read my comment.
“Scavenger is good but I take it a lot” -proceeds to take poison
The reason why it bounced strangely is that you had the upgrade where the bounce re-directs itself towards the players
That was great! Lol! Radiance has been around for quite a while! One of my favorite builds involves Spray, Mayhem, and Toxic Cloud! It is very self destructive, but if used careful is a nightmare for your opponent! And then if you can get target bounce.......
My heart died when rik picked ricochet instead of trickster. He could have been so OP ;-;
5:57 Can we just take some time to appreciate how Rick got three legendary cards in one hand?
damn
And he picked the uncommon one..
@@zeybarur ikr trickster would be op
"its like it had bouncing and homing, but i didnt have bouncing and homing"
You litterally had bouncing and homing!!
I like how yall always say "you know what, this time I'm gonna take poison" even though it's the most broken and most often picked card in the entire game 😂
“Huh, poison is pretty good and we pick it all the time, I’m gonna try not to pick it”
*gets a ton of bad cards and poison*
“You know what, this time I’m gonna take poison”
I think rik has picked poison every video lol
Why is poison considered OP? Yeah it doesn't have a very effective downside but that could be said of a lot of cards, and it just adds some DoT damage to your shot.
You get objectively less that you get from picking Grow or Windup instead. They also increase the damage done but have it as actual burst damage instead of a delayed DoT.
I know what I'd rather be hit by if given the choice between my opponent picking Poison, Glass Cannon or Combine... Glass Cannon or Combine would just kill me outright (those two DO have effective downsides but still).
@@AnthanKrufix you can often hit ur opponent with one poison and hide until they die, the problem is thus the total amount of damage that poison and parasite do
@@AnthanKrufix yea its like op but from a state stand point not really but it gets very boring watching the same card get picked by everyone that plays this
When you have a target bounce every time you bullet bounces it will direct itself at the nearest living thing
Momentum matters not
10:45 You technically did. Target bounce is essentially bounced and homing shot combined. after the 1st bounce it goes after the 1st visible target. you were the 1st visible target
Ash's last build was crazy!
Radiance plus scavenger is terrifying
Rik's build was so pretty to watch lol.
Congrats Ash!
10:50 "It was almost like it wanted to home on me"
The irony.
too funny. But, like, details were forgotten
Rounds!! :D
True
Ya
Ash absolutely murdered it! Good job!
guys the trajectory of the bounce doesnt matter if you have homing bounce since it will aim at the closest target when bouncing
Yeah I'm still enjoying all the combos and silliness that goes on while you guys play
You did have honing and bouncing rik it was the first power up you got. It bounced then would become honing to any visible player.
Yeah I was gonna say the same thing about if the bullet has line of sight after bounce that it would change course to the closest target.
Radiance isn't new, but it IS underutilized
i gotta say that i love this series of games
they should add in a double jump, and a flying agility, and other stuff that are more passive body augmentations, we have tons of bullet and shield stuff.
That’s a really good idea man
I played this game for the first time today on remote play, my very first game, my opponent got two grows, while I had sneaky grow.
The bullets kept getting so big the screen went white when they exploded and it lagged so much I couldn't see. 10/10 do recommend.
Fastball, Thruster, Target Bounce, Trickster, and Grow is OP
It viscerally pained me when he took bouncy instead of Trickster.
Trickster is literally a direct upgrade to bouncy...
You've had radiance show up before, you just never used it. Glad you finally did. :D
Congrats to ash wining rounds. Ash got the new legendary combo.
Concrats on the first win, Ash
🥳
Didn't he win against Price before?
I love seeing bullets that decimate the map, they're so satisfying
loving this game
Target bounce targets the nearest person
Homing goes to the nearest person that it sees
I wonder why nobody ever picks Decay, the fact that all damage is slowed to damage over time can, at the least, give so much extra time to act. Either way, I love Stumpt and this game.
Another episode of one of the funest games to watch
Got to love their respond to Target Bounce back then. They were not familiar with how Target Bounce works. :D
man this game is so fun
i absolutely love managing to pull the combo of parasite + poison + either leech or scavenger its so busted lmao
For the first round, the reason that bullet came back to you Rik was because of target bounce. Target bounce makes the bullet aim towards any visible players, the bullet saw you and bounced back to you.
ok the winner taking a super agro build was surprising enough. The fact they not just won but super aggressively was worth it.
2:28 How about that time-on-target shot from Rik! Bravo sir.
Decay is SO GOOD! Please try it sometime
I'm enjoying this more than I should
Price really trying to tear down the fold out here
Empowered shot is, very arguably, the best ability in the whole game if you've got a block build going.
Rik Target Bounce is pretty mutch bounce activated homing.
the reason it bounces back sometimes is because if a player is in its line of sight it will bounce to them unless there is another player in its line of sight that is closer
so if you shoot it barely forward it will bounce back at you 8:33
Rounds Wins
Price: 11
Jas: 8
Rik: 4
Ash: 4
I was playing with my nephews today and i got a possibly OP build. I had Homing bullets, Poison, Barrage, Fast reload and Time detonation. I never had to stop firing because it was such a fast reload.
It's been years and now this yt channel got recommended
Thanks for making my day better!
I always love rounds uploads
this episode promises to be good
It bounced backwards because it is targeted bounce. Targeted bounce will look for nearest line of sight person and bounce towards them.
Rik, you're my favorite, but Trickster *is* Bouncy except damage goes up every time it bounces.
Radiance has always been there but you always ignored it.
Rik "I would understand if, like, I had homing and bouncing ( but I didn't)"
.....
You mean like the exact description of "Target Bounce", the very first upgrade Rik chose, Says?
"Bullets home on to visible targets after bouncing" +1 bounce.
Ash's "The Suck" loadout was the best.
10:47 "...it was almost like it wanted to home on me..."
Target Bounce: 'nooooooooo......'
Those were some amazing combos.
6:05 not getting trickster? Damnnn
2:27 Amazing
10:52 that is because it did want to its target bounce not just bounce, you know it TARGETS you or the other player(who ever is the closest in line of sight)
I’m just waiting for the day y’all stack Grow with other DMG up buffs and one shot destroys the entire map
Trickster, mayhem, grow, combine, wind up. You ever just fire a bullet but immediately lose track of everything for a few seconds?
Loving these videos!
The bullets bounced back at you because you had target bounce and because you shot the bullet into the ground right next to you, you were the nearest visible target.
Lets gooooo! More rounds!!!
M O A R!
ROUNDS! YAY!
You guys should definitely try out buckshot with any fast bullet modifiers it's amazing trust me!
Ash just kept giving Jas the SUCK!!!!
if they had a double cherry power in this game id love it
The Power of Radiance compels you Price XD
Also, awesome combo idea: Burst, Barrage, Grow, Explosive Shot, Big Bullet
(If you have the game please try this in creative)
FINALLY ASH WON!!!
how is it showing exact % damage/bullet speed/etc? mine just says "a bunch more" and stuff like that
Target Bounce targets the nearest player(with a line of sight of the bullet)
I love how ash won by playing volleyball with jas
If they named the episode "Absolute Radiance," it would have been a Hollow Knight reference, and a Hollow Knight spoiler
Yes
I think rik forgot that ge gas TARGET bounce
Let's go Ash first bracket win there's the underdog coming out on top
target bounce bounce towards the nearest target, which would make it bounce back towards you
Love watching you guys play rounds you should get the 10 round mod from ZZcomic you can get it from his discord.
WOO MORE ROUNFS
The Target Bounce kept aiming at Rik because Rik was closer to the bullet
If you use double Grow with Mayhem then DAMN! you can't even see where you're standing xD
Jazz the sniper Queen strikes again
If the chance ever comes up get a combo of grow and toxic cloud. Its an instant win.
Target Bounce is the bouncy version of Homing
Shout Out to the early crew
8:33 Rik "The fact that it bounces back to me immediately I don't understand the bounce trajectory."
4:18 The card reads "Bullets aim for VISIBLE targets when bouncing." I understand that to be if you are the only visible target when the bullet bounces then it bounces back at you.
hope that helps :)
Why abyssal countdown had been so good with radiance
I read the title and thought about the radiance from Hollow knight
Goes to show you how op poison is just like parasite and radiance isn’t new.
Love how they forgot rik had target bounce and thats why he got trickster in the first place
take grow then bounces and watch it wreck
I like how no one has a clear advantage in this game. Other games one person has a clear advantage i.e Red Bias for Gang Beasts. This game is always different and always exciting. Lately it has always come down to last fight. 👍👍
target bounce targets the nearest player, including the shooter
some of them were new and some of them weren't and also you guys should do tottally accurate battle simulator or for short tabs and also check out tabz it's really fun.
always love these