Bought a used 2022 Aviator with 8,300 miles back in December and absolutely love it. Everything works seamlessly, and haven’t had issues with any electronics so far. It’s the kind car that makes you want to go out and drive it. The most comfortable and luxurious ride I have ever owned, and it turns heads everywhere you go while having that incredible amount of comfort. Couldn’t be happier with my choice.
I had a 2021 Corsair which I really liked. When my 3 year lease was up I went for a 2024 Corsair. I did not go for the sun roof. The bigger screen is nice but they took away some of the controls like temp and put them on the screen which are harder to see. Power is great from the 2.0 L engine and the transmission shifts smoother. Nice handling and quiet.
Dont forget everybody, Lincoln was doing the light blade rear taillight *BEFORE* it became popular Lets go back to the Lincoln MKX from 2007 and the Lincoln MKZ from 2012 Hell we can even go back and see a similar full-width design in the Lincoln MK.8 from 1993
When I was upgrading from my 2009 MKX to my 2015 I was disappointed to see that the light bar was removed, I loved the light bar look, and then noticed that it had moved to the ford edge, which I feel like was a bad choice on their part. Im so happy to see It brought back to all of the vehicles in the line up, definitely a style feature that I love.
It at the bottom of mine. Its spacious enough, but lacks any hint of sportiness. Then again, that's never been a signature of Lincoln. On the other hand, that was true of Cadillac too up until about a decade ago.
@@Foxxy_Stevewow u must enjoy low quality too often especially if you’re looking at a overpriced ford and a st 😂 both already got recalls and rated poorly 😂
WHAT DO YOU WANT?! The design and execution of all of these, especially the Nautilus, are first class. You acknowledge that but then spend most of the review whining about trivia like screen configuration and button labels. Then you repeatedly damn with faint praise and predict breakage. Damn. If these were Getman you'd be cooing and ahhing. Exercise your expertise and make a video FOR Lincoln Motor Car Corporation telling them exactly WHAT YOU WANT.
The quote, "Lincoln never did a red interior before", false... Maybe not recently, but growing up in the 70's and 80's my folks had several Lincolns with the red interior.
@@dmegahan They sell plenty. But the fact of the matter is luxury automakers know sedans are inherently more luxurious than SUVs. Stepping down from an SUV tells the world that the SUV is the star of the show, while stepping up and out of a sedan shines the light on the occupants. The manufacturers, seemingly except Lincoln, know this. Which is why the S-class will always have more features and the higher quality to a gls. The LS greater to the LX. G90 to the GV90. Phantom, Spectre, Continental, and flying spur will always command attention while the Bentayga and Cullinan will be the back ends of jokes and mockery.
@@markcoopers1930 the last continental Lincoln sold didn’t sell well. The only sedans that sell well in the US are the cheaper ones like Camrys and such. Expensive ultraluxury just don’t have high sales numbers and Lincoln is not and doesn’t not want to be in the RR and Bentley car space. Even the s-class sells less than 15k a year and dropping. In fact the GLS outsells the s-Class. So it would not make sense for Lincoln to move into that space anymore with such low volumes. Even if they sold 15k a year that would be bad for them. A new $120k+ sedan just doesn’t work in this market anymore. Don’t be surprised if more cars drop off in the US. Like the S8 and even the best selling car in the class, the 7 series.
Great job guys! You are very right about that. It not only Lincoln that has a lot more work to do. It is Ford Motor Company as a whole. They put all their focus on the Ford Brand, and neglect their luxury line of the company. Lincoln needs to be spun off on its own for somebody else to come in and run it to give it the full attention that it deserves. Then you will get the best cars that the Lincoln Motor Company has to offer!
As a Lexus RX owner, I would definitely consider the Nautilus, as long as it doesnt have the ridiculous 22 inch wheels and panoramic sunroof. I can see using the Rejuvenate spa mode while waiting in the parking lot, with some meditation waterfall music and wind chimes and fresh forest scent, wow. My local dealer has 40 Nautilus in stock, but 35 of them have black interior, smh.
The 2022 Aviator is the best. I love the shape of it. So sleek and elegant, yet tough. (Just like me) Mine has been flawless. I’m so happy I didn’t pass up my deal waiting for the 25. ♥️
@18:30 when you're a tall driver (6'4) like I am, you appreciate every bit of adjustability there is in a car seat. You might think it excessive in daily driving, but take a cross-country road trip, and after half a day those seemingly excessive micro adjustment will be a godsends. In my early days of driving I'd have to carry a cushion and a pillow on long road trips. Otherwise, I'd need to stop every couple of hours to circulate the blood in my numb aching legs.
@@theglowcloud2215 Basically 😂 They did work out the bugs but it had been in the shop for months. We were always given another Navigator loaner. All in all, I really do love it and we will be getting in another i think soon.
@@fisephalnoxt We shopped the Escalade but the Range Rover is too small for our family. In the end it came down to the deal we got and the aesthetics and interior of the Lincoln. We will shop again soon and the new models will have to fight it out
Thanks for doing this side by with the whole lineup!!! I have a 2023 Corsair and a 2023 Navigator Reserve L. Smooth and solid for both. Right on about the perfect position seats on the Navigator though. Cannot get comfortable and my chiropractor loves it. $$$$.
FYI - unless you're independently wealthy which most today aren't ALL high technology vehicles require for example if you purchase a used Lincoln you make sure the warranty doesn't run out. Like myself I own a 2020 Lincoln MKZ and before the factory warranty ran out I purchased a Lincoln Premium Care Warranty so any repair if it occurs is $100 . Lincoln did well in the final model year MKZ not sure why they won't bring the new Zephyr to America from China.
Why does every so called auto know all criticize ford for sharing platforms with Lincoln. GM, Toyota, Nissan, Kia and every other auto maker do the same thing. You can’t tell me, a mechanic of 45 years in the trade that a Lexus is different or better than a Toyota. You definitely can’t tell me a Cadillac has anything that isn’t straight out Chevrolet. Working on Escalades is exactly the same as an Avalanche
Remind me tnot to use you as a mechanic ! Honestly, if you can't tell the difference in a Toyota and a Lexus, I'd have to fire you fro coming to work drunk !
I had a Lincoln MKZ with the Push Button Shifts and LOVED IT!!! I don’t understand the NEGATIVITY about it, What could be Easier or Simplicity about it??
I have LOVED the Lincoln AVIATOR from the very beginning! The very idea of a smaller Navigator. When they brought it back, that was mind-blowing! But NOW they've waited until 2025 to actually SCREW UP A GOOD THING, in terms of the good LOOKS. The EXTERIOR, particularly the FRONT panels, grill, EVERYTHING has been CHEAPENED for MORE money! LINCOLN made it look exactly like the lesser Nautilus🙄 The question is WHY?
🙄you can't satisfy nobody these damn days. Create and build your vehicles . China worked on it , it's a ford , etc etc etc You might not buy it but another person will🤦🏾😂😂😂
Lord, this video is full of complaints from the taller guy..... I've been wanting lincoln to "come on with it" when it comes to tech and big screens. The nautilus is nice as hell, but the aviator is the perfect size 😢. I really wish they would've added the screen to the aviator, but they've been slow to add stuff to that vehicle anyway.
My thoughts as well. I like the screen and body of the Nautilus but the space and seating of the Aviator. The 2nd row caption seats are my fav. If it had the tech of the nautilus it'd be a no brainer.
Really like how Lincoln is structuring their lineup. The small two row and the small 3 row have very similar interiors, and it looks like the big two row and big three row are going to be shockingly similar as well after the 2025 Navigator comes out. The bigger ones for each category have the more upscale interior and the 48 inch, the little ones have the less upscale and 13.2 inch. On the outside, the Navigator and Nautilus will have sharper, more grandiose styling and a full grille light bar, whereas the Aviator and Corsair will have more rounded and conservative designs. They also differentiate themselves a LOT from the base consumer models, something other brands really struggle with right now. Lexus, Acura, and especially Cadillac do little to elevate their cars above the base models. The LC500 is the only Lexus that truly pushes forward as an actual luxury car, the Acura models have a lot of very small changes that add up to a decent change, and Cadillac just slaps on some design elements and a big screen. Lincoln goes all the way and changes everything but the body in white.
As a brand new Lexus RX 350h AWD Luxury owner, I have to admit that Nautilus is way more spacious. Not sure how it's possible to have 6 inches of extra rear leg room AND vastly more cargo volume considering they're the exact same length overall to the inch... I mean the rear leg room looks about the same to me but that cargo volume looks night and day bigger and Lexus offers no massaging seats in the RX. Then you've got all the futuristic screen stuff. I think that's a very compelling competitor to the RX, RDX, etc.
I’m had considered looking in to purchasing a Corsair until I heard you, more than once, state it was similar to a Ford Escape. That was a major turn off. Now I’ve got to keep looking around. I want one more (last) nice car now that I am retired. I am not sure to trust a Ford or GM (Cadillac) product only because of in my 20s to early 30s, I owned 7 brand new GM cars. Every one was a lemon…… major issues. I switched to Honda products and owned 7 brand new Hondas. Everyone a perfect car. 100,000 to over 200,000 miles on those cars and not one issue with any of them. I currently have a ‘22 RDX A-Spec Advance which I love (13,000 miles) but I’m craving a new car. Not sure which direction to turn. 🤔 Oh, and then you said the Nautilus is manufactured in China! Yikes! Check that off my list ☹️
The Nautilus is CURRENTLY built in China. It WAS built in the US and China, but they shut down US production so they could retool the plant for making EVs. IIRC, China is the 2nd largest market for the Nautilus.
The Nautilus panoramic display is stunning, but could it be too much of a good thing? Also it adds so many possible breaking points to the vehicle. Nothing causes so many hard to diagnose and fix problems as wiring and electronics. Yet, no digital rear view mirror and no side view in the instrument panel, the stuff you get in Kias half the price!
Its conservative. But I really appreciate the fact they didn't' slather Lincoln on every surface of the car. Especially on the inside (like the Grand Wagoneer) which I see as really cheap. Jeep really needs an abbreviation of that name. Like VW for example.
@@jacksonnordhues5961 The new Nautilus rides on a modified C2 platform mostly shared with the new Escape, Bronco Sport, and Maverick - The previous Ford Edge/Lincoln Nautilus rode on the CD4 platform.
No, it's based on a version of the global modular C2 platform that has been heavily modified from others. It has some basic relation to the platform that underpins Escape, Corsair, Maverick, and Bronco Sport. However, in the Nautilus' 114" wheelbase form of C2, no other corporate vehicle shares this version of the C2 platform. All those other vehicles are based on a 106.7" wheelbase version of C2 with less sophisticated suspension systems. That's why they had to move production to China. There's no volume platform mate to share an assembly line with here with Edge's cancelation.
Luxury surroundings is so nice to have. But, these vehicles are technical monstrosities!!! Imagine the costs to replace the tech items after they get a few years of use....HARD PASS. These vehicles are for buyers that have no concern for whatever repair bill that hits when the tech goes wrong. Less tech is good tech...
Is the cam phaser problem fixed on the newer 3.5 TT? My buddies at work bought a bunch of F150s that had all kinds of problems with the Cam Phasers that weren't covered under warranty.
Change the oil long before the dealer recommends. We have 6 Transit T 350 vans with the 3.5 TT. Some are over 300,000 miles. No timing chains, turbos or cam phaser issues ever. Oil changed 3,000 to 4,000 miles. OEM Ford oil filter and full synthetic oil. No secret sauce needed.
The fact the new Aviator shares a similar grille shape to the new Explorer its based on, when there is no need, only reinforces that struggle Lincoln has to have an identity separate from Ford. It seems almost self imposed, or perhaps too short a leash. Perhaps the goal is to remind buyers that they got a fancy Ford, instead of make them feel like they got a Lincoln.
One thing about that Aviator 3rd row. It's not just about leg room, but also whether or not your knees are above your hips. The Nautilus is built in China, which is a non-starter for moi. With these Lincolns, I'm torn between an Aviator and a Corsair Hybrid. The Navigator is just too big for my needs or wants. The Corsair? I'm not sure if it actually delivers enough LUXURY for the TCO price premium over a comparable Japanese non-luxury compact SUV/Crossover, especially when the reliability factor is considered. sigh. I SHOULD be able to get a killllller deal on an Aviator, there are still new 2023 models on dealer lots. Ahhh, the potential joys of a luxury ride... It would certainly be a heckuva change from my 2006 work truck.
Its an E-CVT. Completely different than the belt driven CVT's that you are thinking of. It makes use of planetary gearsets. Its a technology that Toyota and Ford developed together.
I could not watch this review any more longer and had to stop after 7 minutes. They didn't care enough to prepare them self, and totally feel like in the stand-up comedy club..
Nautilus should have come standard with the 2.3L Ecoboost with near Mustang Power levels at that price point. The front of the Aviator is not as elegant as the current one which is one of the best looking SUVs on the road. Plus they didn’t even change the back at all and took away all the physical HVAC controls.
You talk about feels expensive while Mercedes entry sedan the C series the seats were pleather instead of real leather and everyone was buying the car.
It most certainly does. You’ve clearly never experienced a truly comfortable vehicle seat. Micro adjustments can help everything from leg fatigue to lower back discomfort.
@@CornFed_3 I'm guessing he's definitely not tall. I'm 6'4 (all legs) and those adjustments are a godsend to me. All my life I've wished for the say I could live the cushion and pillow behind when I go on a long trip.
Went to look at a Nautilus. Other than the dash the Aviator looks much better inside and out. Wouldn't buy it because it doesn't have the 48 inch dash but I wouldn't buy the Nautilus either. It is very underwhelming on the outside. Almost every other SUV looks better and it doesn't look luxurious. Even with 22 inch rims it is too low to the ground making it look like a station wagon. Big failure by the designers. That's why you don't see them on the road. Also the jet black garbage looks cheap.
My wifes company gave her a new Ford Escape last year. What an absolute piece of trash. Oarts falling off, interior switches snapping in half, recalls, more teips to the service department than i care to remember. Makes me never want a FORD product in my driveway sadly.
Nautilus touchscreen LCD is black and white. The 1840's are calling. They want their non-color LCD back. Such laziness. Also the bigger touchscreen in the Aviator should be in the Nautilus.
Funny because people have been saying the new Nautilus has excellent build quality. Not really sure why people want American built cars from Ford and Lincoln when those have historically had some of the worst build quality on the market. Every other review of the American made Lincoln models talks about how they’re already hearing creaks and rattles. 😂
Let’s pay them so they can make more aircraft carriers that will attach us. This is dumb. Great car but not buying due to made in a country that release covid.
If I wanted to watch Soyfan Bey, I would have went to redline. Not a fan of his style. When he's by himself he is obnoxious at the least. When he is with someone else he just laughs after every he or anyone else says. Keep it TFL. The guys on this channel all have excellent and genuine personalities.
This was a great video...honestly couldn't tell you much about Lincoln's lineup. It's changed names so many times. Also, great collaboration!
Glad you enjoyed it!
All the small dawgs got to gang up on the Lions! Hyenas!
I have 2 of them
What is the videos song n who is the group
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Love how this video came together guys and thanks again for letting us be a part of this video! See you at the next event! 😎
Thanks for being part of this. You’re the best!
Bought a used 2022 Aviator with 8,300 miles back in December and absolutely love it. Everything works seamlessly, and haven’t had issues with any electronics so far. It’s the kind car that makes you want to go out and drive it. The most comfortable and luxurious ride I have ever owned, and it turns heads everywhere you go while having that incredible amount of comfort. Couldn’t be happier with my choice.
I had a 2021 Corsair which I really liked. When my 3 year lease was up I went for a 2024 Corsair. I did not go for the sun roof. The bigger screen is nice but they took away some of the controls like temp and put them on the screen which are harder to see. Power is great from the 2.0 L engine and the transmission shifts smoother. Nice handling and quiet.
Dont forget everybody, Lincoln was doing the light blade rear taillight *BEFORE* it became popular
Lets go back to the Lincoln MKX from 2007 and the Lincoln MKZ from 2012
Hell we can even go back and see a similar full-width design in the Lincoln MK.8 from 1993
Go back even further if you wish, all the way to a 1990’s MK8.
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I already wrote that
@@joecool9739 I see that now lol. Sorry, I miss my MK8 haha ha.
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When I was upgrading from my 2009 MKX to my 2015 I was disappointed to see that the light bar was removed, I loved the light bar look, and then noticed that it had moved to the ford edge, which I feel like was a bad choice on their part. Im so happy to see It brought back to all of the vehicles in the line up, definitely a style feature that I love.
The Aviator is on the top of my shopping list. Very much looking forward to getting one
It at the bottom of mine. Its spacious enough, but lacks any hint of sportiness. Then again, that's never been a signature of Lincoln. On the other hand, that was true of Cadillac too up until about a decade ago.
@@krane15 I totally get it. I’m currently debating between the Aviator and the Explorer ST since that is more sporty looking and tuned differently.
@@Foxxy_Stevewow u must enjoy low quality too often especially if you’re looking at a overpriced ford and a st 😂 both already got recalls and rated poorly 😂
@@cormaro13 you are a discharged that should have been swallowed!
The Aviator looks like a Range Rover but more reliable thats why i am looking to buy one.
🔥 Sofyan 🔥 Welcome back to TFL....
WHAT DO YOU WANT?!
The design and execution of all of these, especially the Nautilus, are first class.
You acknowledge that but then spend most of the review whining about trivia like screen configuration and button labels. Then you repeatedly damn with faint praise and predict breakage.
Damn. If these were Getman you'd be cooing and ahhing.
Exercise your expertise and make a video FOR Lincoln Motor Car Corporation telling them exactly WHAT YOU WANT.
The quote, "Lincoln never did a red interior before", false... Maybe not recently, but growing up in the 70's and 80's my folks had several Lincolns with the red interior.
Was in everything back then, the porno red.
My mom had two Lincolns, and I don't remember that. Wait, one was a Lincoln Town Car, the other, a Mercury, wasn't that the same?
We had a 92 TC growing up, maroon on maroon executive series. My mom would be doin 80+ on the fwy on a regular basis it rode so smooth.
They’re all beautiful vehicles. Lincoln just needs a new flagship sedan as the cherry on top. Maybe a new Town Car. My favorite is the Aviator.
I checked out completely after the sedans went away. That's the only thing that would make me pay attention again
Sedans don’t sell anymore.
@@dmegahan They sell plenty. But the fact of the matter is luxury automakers know sedans are inherently more luxurious than SUVs. Stepping down from an SUV tells the world that the SUV is the star of the show, while stepping up and out of a sedan shines the light on the occupants. The manufacturers, seemingly except Lincoln, know this. Which is why the S-class will always have more features and the higher quality to a gls. The LS greater to the LX. G90 to the GV90. Phantom, Spectre, Continental, and flying spur will always command attention while the Bentayga and Cullinan will be the back ends of jokes and mockery.
@@markcoopers1930 the last continental Lincoln sold didn’t sell well. The only sedans that sell well in the US are the cheaper ones like Camrys and such. Expensive ultraluxury just don’t have high sales numbers and Lincoln is not and doesn’t not want to be in the RR and Bentley car space. Even the s-class sells less than 15k a year and dropping. In fact the GLS outsells the s-Class. So it would not make sense for Lincoln to move into that space anymore with such low volumes. Even if they sold 15k a year that would be bad for them. A new $120k+ sedan just doesn’t work in this market anymore. Don’t be surprised if more cars drop off in the US. Like the S8 and even the best selling car in the class, the 7 series.
@@dmegahanyou should look up Camry sales numbers...
I like when UA-camrs share videos. This one was really well done!👍
Great video and collaboration, the best comparison I've seen yet that looks at all four of Lincoln's offerings.
Would love to see more sequence lineup overviews! I know it was more a product of the event but the side-by-side is super useful!
Great job guys! You are very right about that. It not only Lincoln that has a lot more work to do. It is Ford Motor Company as a whole. They put all their focus on the Ford Brand, and neglect their luxury line of the company. Lincoln needs to be spun off on its own for somebody else to come in and run it to give it the full attention that it deserves. Then you will get the best cars that the Lincoln Motor Company has to offer!
How’s that going to help with trash material and production 😂
Liked how you guys covered these Lincoln SUV models! Great job!
This is absolutely entertaining: Roman looks and sounds like he is coming off a bender.
FYI: Roman doesn’t drink
@@TFLnowI am happy for him. Great to hear but I was just having some fun. No harm meant.
As a Lexus RX owner, I would definitely consider the Nautilus, as long as it doesnt have the ridiculous 22 inch wheels and panoramic sunroof. I can see using the Rejuvenate spa mode while waiting in the parking lot, with some meditation waterfall music and wind chimes and fresh forest scent, wow. My local dealer has 40 Nautilus in stock, but 35 of them have black interior, smh.
The 2022 Aviator is the best. I love the shape of it. So sleek and elegant, yet tough. (Just like me) Mine has been flawless. I’m so happy I didn’t pass up my deal waiting for the 25. ♥️
Nice Collab. I watched the whole video wow. And I own a Lincoln awesome cars
Thank you for this review no one compared these together next to each other
@18:30 when you're a tall driver (6'4) like I am, you appreciate every bit of adjustability there is in a car seat. You might think it excessive in daily driving, but take a cross-country road trip, and after half a day those seemingly excessive micro adjustment will be a godsends.
In my early days of driving I'd have to carry a cushion and a pillow on long road trips. Otherwise, I'd need to stop every couple of hours to circulate the blood in my numb aching legs.
I own a Lincoln. I like the push button transmission.
Lincoln bring back the sedan and a new Mark 9.
The map of New York on the wood grain is in the Navigator with the green interior. Not the Aviator
Been in the Navigator since 2020 and we love it. It has had some weird minor electrical issues, but my wife refuses to trade it for anything else so..
So you're saying you love it under duress, eh?
@@theglowcloud2215 Basically 😂
They did work out the bugs but it had been in the shop for months. We were always given another Navigator loaner.
All in all, I really do love it and we will be getting in another i think soon.
why didnt you go with the Escalade, LX or Range rover?
@@fisephalnoxt We shopped the Escalade but the Range Rover is too small for our family. In the end it came down to the deal we got and the aesthetics and interior of the Lincoln. We will shop again soon and the new models will have to fight it out
@@mattm2507 Oh ok! Thanks for replying!
Thanks for doing this side by with the whole lineup!!! I have a 2023 Corsair and a 2023 Navigator Reserve L. Smooth and solid for both. Right on about the perfect position seats on the Navigator though. Cannot get comfortable and my chiropractor loves it. $$$$.
FYI - unless you're independently wealthy which most today aren't ALL high technology vehicles require for example if you purchase a used Lincoln you make sure the warranty doesn't run out. Like myself I own a 2020 Lincoln MKZ and before the factory warranty ran out I purchased a Lincoln Premium Care Warranty so any repair if it occurs is $100 . Lincoln did well in the final model year MKZ not sure why they won't bring the new Zephyr to America from China.
Why does every so called auto know all criticize ford for sharing platforms with Lincoln. GM, Toyota, Nissan, Kia and every other auto maker do the same thing. You can’t tell me, a mechanic of 45 years in the trade that a Lexus is different or better than a Toyota. You definitely can’t tell me a Cadillac has anything that isn’t straight out Chevrolet. Working on Escalades is exactly the same as an Avalanche
Remind me tnot to use you as a mechanic ! Honestly, if you can't tell the difference in a Toyota and a Lexus, I'd have to fire you fro coming to work drunk !
@@GoYankees27think you missed his point, but then again you probably can’t tell the difference between a rear diff and an oil filter
@@misterincognitosmith I didn't miss anyone's point..........mainly, because he didn't have a point. What he said was totally ridiculous.
Damn! That thing looks amazing!!
I’ve been in the q5 and it don’t make me think the same or feel the same as looking at this.
I had a Lincoln MKZ with the Push Button Shifts and LOVED IT!!! I don’t understand the NEGATIVITY about it, What could be Easier or Simplicity about it??
This Aviator looks nice! We are enjoying our 23 Explorer Timberline but I think in a couple years we will move up. I'm fine with that steering wheel.
😂 you’re hoping so but u bought a ford so expect by next year 😂
I have LOVED the Lincoln AVIATOR from the very beginning! The very idea of a smaller Navigator. When they brought it back, that was mind-blowing! But NOW they've waited until 2025 to actually SCREW UP A GOOD THING, in terms of the good LOOKS. The EXTERIOR, particularly the FRONT panels, grill, EVERYTHING has been CHEAPENED for MORE money! LINCOLN made it look exactly like the lesser Nautilus🙄 The question is WHY?
🙄you can't satisfy nobody these damn days. Create and build your vehicles . China worked on it , it's a ford , etc etc etc You might not buy it but another person will🤦🏾😂😂😂
Lord, this video is full of complaints from the taller guy.....
I've been wanting lincoln to "come on with it" when it comes to tech and big screens. The nautilus is nice as hell, but the aviator is the perfect size 😢. I really wish they would've added the screen to the aviator, but they've been slow to add stuff to that vehicle anyway.
My thoughts as well. I like the screen and body of the Nautilus but the space and seating of the Aviator. The 2nd row caption seats are my fav. If it had the tech of the nautilus it'd be a no brainer.
Really like how Lincoln is structuring their lineup. The small two row and the small 3 row have very similar interiors, and it looks like the big two row and big three row are going to be shockingly similar as well after the 2025 Navigator comes out. The bigger ones for each category have the more upscale interior and the 48 inch, the little ones have the less upscale and 13.2 inch. On the outside, the Navigator and Nautilus will have sharper, more grandiose styling and a full grille light bar, whereas the Aviator and Corsair will have more rounded and conservative designs.
They also differentiate themselves a LOT from the base consumer models, something other brands really struggle with right now. Lexus, Acura, and especially Cadillac do little to elevate their cars above the base models. The LC500 is the only Lexus that truly pushes forward as an actual luxury car, the Acura models have a lot of very small changes that add up to a decent change, and Cadillac just slaps on some design elements and a big screen. Lincoln goes all the way and changes everything but the body in white.
I’m really liking that Nautilus I’m just not sure I like how easy it is for my passengers to see that I’m doing 85 through a 40 mph school zone.
Nice lineup for Lincoln. I am not a fan of the black wheels and grilles. I love the push-button gear selector on my 2022 Nautilus
Bright chrome is going out of style, if it isn't mostly already.
As a brand new Lexus RX 350h AWD Luxury owner, I have to admit that Nautilus is way more spacious. Not sure how it's possible to have 6 inches of extra rear leg room AND vastly more cargo volume considering they're the exact same length overall to the inch... I mean the rear leg room looks about the same to me but that cargo volume looks night and day bigger and Lexus offers no massaging seats in the RX. Then you've got all the futuristic screen stuff. I think that's a very compelling competitor to the RX, RDX, etc.
You guys make a great team.
I'm waiting for those balloons to come bouncing after these two like an episode of The Prisoner
Aviator with the 5.0 coyote needs to be available, I know the 3.0 twin turbo is quick but for that much it needs the 5.0
I’m had considered looking in to purchasing a Corsair until I heard you, more than once, state it was similar to a Ford Escape. That was a major turn off. Now I’ve got to keep looking around. I want one more (last) nice car now that I am retired. I am not sure to trust a Ford or GM (Cadillac) product only because of in my 20s to early 30s, I owned 7 brand new GM cars. Every one was a lemon…… major issues. I switched to Honda products and owned 7 brand new Hondas. Everyone a perfect car. 100,000 to over 200,000 miles on those cars and not one issue with any of them. I currently have a ‘22 RDX A-Spec Advance which I love (13,000 miles) but I’m craving a new car. Not sure which direction to turn. 🤔
Oh, and then you said the Nautilus is manufactured in China! Yikes! Check that off my list ☹️
The Nautilus is CURRENTLY built in China. It WAS built in the US and China, but they shut down US production so they could retool the plant for making EVs. IIRC, China is the 2nd largest market for the Nautilus.
The Nautilus panoramic display is stunning, but could it be too much of a good thing? Also it adds so many possible breaking points to the vehicle. Nothing causes so many hard to diagnose and fix problems as wiring and electronics. Yet, no digital rear view mirror and no side view in the instrument panel, the stuff you get in Kias half the price!
The Nautilus does have a digital mirror in the right configuration.
@@JackSmith-qi7dr How about Explorer? Can I have a digital rear view mirror on 2025 Explorer?
This post reminds me of an old Henny Youngman joke: waiter, the food is terrible and the portions are too small.
My Lexus LS oscillating vents still worked at 208,000 miles, right up to the point that someone rear ended it
The level of disdain for the cheapest version is sickening.
I think Lincoln design is really nice today. Under appreciated vehicles.
Its conservative. But I really appreciate the fact they didn't' slather Lincoln on every surface of the car. Especially on the inside (like the Grand Wagoneer) which I see as really cheap. Jeep really needs an abbreviation of that name. Like VW for example.
So is the Nautilus based off the Edge platform, which is going away?
Yes
@@jacksonnordhues5961 The new Nautilus rides on a modified C2 platform mostly shared with the new Escape, Bronco Sport, and Maverick - The previous Ford Edge/Lincoln Nautilus rode on the CD4 platform.
Old one yes, this new one no.
@@KT_One Oh--then is this one based off the Everest platform, then?
No, it's based on a version of the global modular C2 platform that has been heavily modified from others. It has some basic relation to the platform that underpins Escape, Corsair, Maverick, and Bronco Sport. However, in the Nautilus' 114" wheelbase form of C2, no other corporate vehicle shares this version of the C2 platform. All those other vehicles are based on a 106.7" wheelbase version of C2 with less sophisticated suspension systems. That's why they had to move production to China. There's no volume platform mate to share an assembly line with here with Edge's cancelation.
I got the corsair, very nice, especially the cost of gas😊
Luxury surroundings is so nice to have. But, these vehicles are technical monstrosities!!! Imagine the costs to replace the tech items after they get a few years of use....HARD PASS. These vehicles are for buyers that have no concern for whatever repair bill that hits when the tech goes wrong. Less tech is good tech...
That's a long-term/second ownership problem. Remember, people that can afford cars at this price point trade them in every 4 years.
The super wide display is distracting.
Info should be straight ahead not having to scan the width of the car.
Is the cam phaser problem fixed on the newer 3.5 TT? My buddies at work bought a bunch of F150s that had all kinds of problems with the Cam Phasers that weren't covered under warranty.
Change the oil long before the dealer recommends. We have 6 Transit T 350 vans with the 3.5 TT. Some are over 300,000 miles. No timing chains, turbos or cam phaser issues ever.
Oil changed 3,000 to 4,000 miles. OEM Ford oil filter and full synthetic oil. No secret sauce needed.
Yes it's been fixed. Do oil changes on time though.
The fact the new Aviator shares a similar grille shape to the new Explorer its based on, when there is no need, only reinforces that struggle Lincoln has to have an identity separate from Ford.
It seems almost self imposed, or perhaps too short a leash. Perhaps the goal is to remind buyers that they got a fancy Ford, instead of make them feel like they got a Lincoln.
What's under the green rag, and why is it covered?
My guess: 12 V battery with a trickle charger connected.
我在中国开的飞行家，这几辆车里我觉得飞行家最漂亮。在中国的宣传是 3.0T 发动机是美国进口的，20 款 之前是美国制造进口到中国，22 款以后大部分是中国长安生产，发动机美国进口。林肯在中国的销量也不是太多，呈下降趋势，因为林肯中国区 ceo 并不懂汽车😂上两任是女的，这一任是个男的，但他之前的履历并不好
One thing about that Aviator 3rd row. It's not just about leg room, but also whether or not your knees are above your hips.
The Nautilus is built in China, which is a non-starter for moi. With these Lincolns, I'm torn between an Aviator and a Corsair Hybrid. The Navigator is just too big for my needs or wants. The Corsair? I'm not sure if it actually delivers enough LUXURY for the TCO price premium over a comparable Japanese non-luxury compact SUV/Crossover, especially when the reliability factor is considered. sigh. I SHOULD be able to get a killllller deal on an Aviator, there are still new 2023 models on dealer lots. Ahhh, the potential joys of a luxury ride... It would certainly be a heckuva change from my 2006 work truck.
400HP is nothing to sneeze at, I’ve had mine up to 140mph
I don't have a preference but after seeing in-laws new Escalade, Lincoln is soo far behind Cadillac and I never thought I would say that
Well the 2025 navigator is about to debut soon
GM is killing it in terms of interiors lately.
oh, Lincoln only sell SUVs. they should sell a luxurious car with Mustang engine as a direct American rival to the LC500
They should have a hand-built halo sedan like the new Cadillac Celestiq. It would also be nice to see American luxury brands be the norm again.
6:58 cvt??? Are cvt reliability any better now a days from like 10 yrs ago!?!
Its an E-CVT. Completely different than the belt driven CVT's that you are thinking of. It makes use of planetary gearsets. Its a technology that Toyota and Ford developed together.
@@DanielBlaney I am guessing this is newer then belt cvt?! What about belt CVT is gasoline engines now a days? Are they more reliable
When you don’t know anything about the vehicles you’re standing in front of you bring on a professional automotive journalist!
Its a walk-around not a full review bub. He said the full review is coming next week.
…and yet Sofyan knows them, pal.
I'll take the Aviator please!! If only we had them in the UK!!
Damnnn... roman really doesn't know shit! no offense 😂😂😂
I could not watch this review any more longer and had to stop after 7 minutes.
They didn't care enough to prepare them self, and totally feel like in the stand-up comedy club..
These guys "secretly" don't like Lincoln
Hmm I might get a Lincoln just to stand out 😂
In the parking as u wait for the tow truck 😂
I just wish they offered the 3.0 in the Nautilus
Nautilus should have come standard with the 2.3L Ecoboost with near Mustang Power levels at that price point.
The front of the Aviator is not as elegant as the current one which is one of the best looking SUVs on the road. Plus they didn’t even change the back at all and took away all the physical HVAC controls.
You talk about feels expensive while Mercedes entry sedan the C series the seats were pleather instead of real leather and everyone was buying the car.
The number of adjustments on those seats is simply out of control; a comfortable seat doesn't require anything like that number.
It most certainly does. You’ve clearly never experienced a truly comfortable vehicle seat. Micro adjustments can help everything from leg fatigue to lower back discomfort.
@@CornFed_3 I do not require an orthopedic seat
@@kevinbarry71, don’t worry, these vehicles aren’t for you anyway. Go find something else on the internet to complain about.
@@CornFed_3 I buy Toyota and Lexus products. I don't need unreliable American made junk. You do in order to fit your fat ass inside
@@CornFed_3 I'm guessing he's definitely not tall. I'm 6'4 (all legs) and those adjustments are a godsend to me. All my life I've wished for the say I could live the cushion and pillow behind when I go on a long trip.
Went to look at a Nautilus. Other than the dash the Aviator looks much better inside and out. Wouldn't buy it because it doesn't have the 48 inch dash but I wouldn't buy the Nautilus either. It is very underwhelming on the outside. Almost every other SUV looks better and it doesn't look luxurious. Even with 22 inch rims it is too low to the ground making it look like a station wagon. Big failure by the designers. That's why you don't see them on the road. Also the jet black garbage looks cheap.
I love how all of these are all white with gloss black accents, they all look very nice.
When new anyway.
I am looking forward to the new design Navigator, but they all look great
22" wheels on the Nautilus is a truly stupid idea. A Lincoln should float. Floating works far better when your tires aren't hammering you.
My wifes company gave her a new Ford Escape last year. What an absolute piece of trash. Oarts falling off, interior switches snapping in half, recalls, more teips to the service department than i care to remember. Makes me never want a FORD product in my driveway sadly.
Roman needs to get the numbers in his head.
Nautilus touchscreen LCD is black and white. The 1840's are calling. They want their non-color LCD back. Such laziness. Also the bigger touchscreen in the Aviator should be in the Nautilus.
Lincoln’s naming is not great…I wonder how many ‘normal’ people know these makes…other than the Navigator! They need better names…
At $90k for aviator, I would buy f350 king ranch instead for more of a truck😂
So the Navigator is the same price as a Cyber Truck why would anyone buy the Tesla ?
Nautilus, Lincolns first China made vehicle.....
Most of everything in the American home is Made in China anyway, so why not the cars too?
The nautilus Engine is a Deal breaker it's such a shame Lincoln gave it that disgusting 4cyl.
Cut the price by 40% and its a good buy.
Oh, Lincoln, you have lost your way! J. D. Power three year dependability study of 2023 puts Lincoln second to last with 259 problems per 100 car.
Roman cant get a single fact right
All the haters at the nursing home see me in my new Lincoln Corsair with a built-in TV.
Idk about hate more like laughter cause you’re going to be needing that while u wait for the tow truck daily 😂
Nautilus. Easy choice.
The Nautilus is an electronic nightmare. That, and the fact it is made in China, are deal breakers. No thanks.
Everything in your house is made in China....Shut up...🙄
My wife on her 2nd Aviator. Went in to order the new Nautilus - dealer told us about the 100% China source. That was about a 10sec decision.
Funny because people have been saying the new Nautilus has excellent build quality. Not really sure why people want American built cars from Ford and Lincoln when those have historically had some of the worst build quality on the market. Every other review of the American made Lincoln models talks about how they’re already hearing creaks and rattles. 😂
Let’s pay them so they can make more aircraft carriers that will attach us. This is dumb. Great car but not buying due to made in a country that release covid.
Previous model stats.
New Nautilus is entirely China built & shipped.
If you're very old, very conservative, have plenty of money to waste, go for it
Will always have an image and name problem
I'll be first in line to get the new Navigator when they decide to change the body style, which I think will be next year
the screen for aviator is too small ......damn the car bigger than naut and the screen smaller funny . look at chinese exploere interior
Nobody will ever see any of these on the road. I mean, when is the last time you saw a Lincoln?
That is true I do a lot of traveling and I don't see many at all.
I see them often tbh their just all driven by the elderly
I literally have an aviator and a mkc on my street. Next street over has a navigator. I guess they sell well where I live.
Everyday. I own one!
I see them everywhere.
A Lincoln made in China? Love the look and tech but sorry, nope.
Lincoln looks VERY nice on the outside, and that is where it ends.
If I wanted to watch Soyfan Bey, I would have went to redline. Not a fan of his style. When he's by himself he is obnoxious at the least. When he is with someone else he just laughs after every he or anyone else says. Keep it TFL. The guys on this channel all have excellent and genuine personalities.
Omg - can you PLEASE stop giggling so much like a little school girl!!! Everytime your co-host speaks you giggle - it’s so annoying
You guys complain absolutely too much. Knit pic the heck out of anything. OMG 😕
When it comes to "China" it's not about the quality, it's about another group of American jobs given away!!!!!!!!!
God I miss sedans
Hey thats the parker hotel lol