Live Colosseum has always been one of my favourite live albums, nearly wore out the vinyl copy, especially the track 'Lost Angeles' so exciting with Clem Clempson at his best.
Great review as always Pete. Late in his life I got to know Dick Heckstall-Smith very well. I ran a music venue and he would often appear, he was a musical tart, he would play with anyone because he just loved to play. Ever the professional, before every gig he would practice scales for at least an hour. We spent many (far too late) evenings talking together, drinking (far too much) red wine. He didn't often talk about his career, he was more interested in discussing philosophy and natural phenomena, but a couple of gems here. I once asked him if John Mayall's Bluesbreakers ever appeared with The Paul Butterfield Blues Band and he replied " Yes, in 1967 we did a double header at the Filmore East and at the end of the gig we all got on stage and jammed together. Then again, I don't remember very much about 1967, I was in love at the time." He also told me that he had played with all the great American sax players, Coltrane, Getz, Turrentine, Hawkins and he said "And to be honest, I can't hold a candle to them, but...... I can play the blues and they can't." I think his 'Blues in b flat' off the Diary of a Band Vol 11 is drenched in atmosphere and as good a blues sax outing as you will hear. Frank Zappa saw him playing with Colosseum and said " ...and I dug Colosseum - particularly Dick, the guy who plays tenor and soprano. Does he do sessions in London? he ought to - he's really a bitch."
Wardance & Electric Savage were two of the first albums I ever got while still at school, still love them as much as ever. I visited Gary's grave a couple of weeks ago, the inscription reads 'Loved Beyond The Stars'.
Was very lucky to have been at The Albert hall Where The Drum Solo on Time Machine Was Recorded.. And that has always made Daughter of Time my favourite...Can I also recommend the Box set Morituri Salutant..it features some very interesting recordings both Live and in The Studio.. As Always great overview of Colosseum's music by Pete.
Wardance and Electric Savage are my fav two jazz rock albums so thats where i would go. I have listened a bit of Colosseum original but didn't really love what i heard. I have a few Greenslade albums, love them, but it's the Don Airey / Gary Moore duo for me.
Another great album is A Story Ended by Dick Heckstall-Smith from 1972. most of the band members from Colosseum with Graham Bond and Chris Spedding play on it. Chris Farlowe is on vocals.
01 - Strange New Flesh. 02 - War Dance. 03 - Electric Savage. 04 - Valentyne Suite. 05 - The Grass Is Greener. 06 - Those Who Are About to Die Salute You. 07 - Daughter of Time. 08 - Tomorrow's Blues. 09 - Bread and Circuses. 10 - Time On Our Side. Not taking anything away from Colosseum but definitely prefer Colosseum II, due to Gary & Don. I never had an issue with the vocal tracks.
1. Daughter Of Time 2. Bread & Circuses 3. Valentyne Suite 4. Time Is On Our Side 5. Tomorrow's Blues 6. The Grass Is Greener [US album, mostly remakes w/ Clem on vocals/guitar] 7. Those Who Are About To Die Salute You - Morituri Te Salutant I love Colosseum, all of their albums and I love the last three from after their initial break-up absolutely exciting. Less jazzy, sure, but stronger songwriting and moody vocals. All of them are worth owning - saw them live twice, outstanding of course :)
Their top album to this day remains 1971's Colosseum Live. Their classic line-up at their best. Actually the only connection between Colosseum and C II is drummer Jon Hiseman despite the name. Barbara Thompson who was Hiseman's wife already played with the band as guest in the 70's but had her own career as bandleader and composer before she joined when Dave Heckstall-Smith died. Her albums with Paraphernalia are pretty good, moody fusion/jazz rock. I prefer the original Colosseum from the 70's as the most unique version of the band, they came out of the underrated Graham Bond Organisation (some songs in their repertoire even go back to that time). Colosseum II was pretty standard mid-seventies fusion although with a high musical standard but still nothing groundbreaking. The reunion albums go back to the classic phase but sadly add nothing new - they were top musicians and it is mostly their musical skill that attracts you here. 10. Time on Our Side 9. Tomorrow's Blues 8. War Dance (This is a perfect example of the "second wave" of fusion and what sets it apart from the great stuff done in the first half of the 70's. It is not different from legions of other bands that did the same stuff at this time, nothing that makes this record "Colosseum".) 7. Bread and Circuses 6. Electric Savage 5. The Grass Is Greener (This is a US only, however I always had 1971's Collector's Colosseum which had all the tunes from this one that were not on the original Valentyne Suite plus some singles, so it kind of covered the same repertoire) 4. Those About to Die Salute You 3. Strange New Flesh (Great version of Joni Mitchell's Down to You) 2. Valentyne Suite 1. Daughter of Time
Colosseum 1.Valentyne Suite 2. The Grass Is Greener 3.Those Who Are About To Die Salute You 4. Daughter Of Time Colosseum II 1.Electric Savage 2. War Dance 3. Strange New Flesh
@@keithshapland903Hiseman didn't want to use the same name, again. The name he chose was, Ghost. But, the record company guy in charge told him that it would be Colosseum II -- or nothing (no record contract).
My personal preference is for Colosseum2 over the original Colosseum, mainly due to Gary Moore and Don Airey, so my top 3 are 1 Wardance, 2 Electric Savage then 3 Strange New Flesh - I agree about the vocals spoiling it a bit, and yes, the extended version has a lot more to offer including a couple of live tracks. Of the Colosseum Albums, Valentyne Suite is my favourite then the first album, Grass is Greener, Daughter of time, Bread and circuses, Tomorrows blues, Time on Our Side - so fairly similar to Pete's list apart from the Col 2 albums all being at the top. Colosseum Live would be between those about to die and Valentyne suite. There are a couple of great dare I say bootlegs out there as well - Colosseum 2 on sight and sound in concert and live in Germany 1977 both great - you may find them if you search on you tube.
Imagine trying to get an album cover like Electric Savage out today? The Colosseum II albums with Gary Moore are brilliant. Cozy Powell's solo albums had people like Moore and Airey on them and were great jazz/rock too.
To me "Strange New Flesh" is their best album, and I like Mike Starrs voice. "Down to You", "Dark Side of the Moog" and "Secret Places" are my favourite songs.
Wondrous space-prog rock band. I really dig Colosseum II - "Strange New Flesh". And the song: "The Dark Side of the Moog" is a masterpiece. Since you talked about Dave Greenslade, how about a show of the Greenslade albums?
Agree with a lot of comments on Colosseum Live, their best album by far, then i would rank their first three albums in that order after that. I prefer their debut slightly over Valentine Suite, a footnote to that,James Litherland, who is a fine Guitarist, formed Mogul Thrash with John Wetton and ex members of Average White Band. I would recommend any fans to give their album a listen, similar to Colosseum but with more guitar from Litherland. Never got into Colosseum 2.
Colosseum II - Down To You (Joni Mitchell remake) is superb. There is a part with mostly Don Ariey on keys and Gary Moore on guitar - One of my favorite moments musicians from either of any band. Absolutely fantastic for me!
I don't really know the original band's stuff that well other than the first album (which I really like), so I'll just stick to Colosseum II. I'm a big Gary Moore fan, so... here we go: 3) War Dance 2) Strange New Flesh 1) Electric Savage Thanks, Pete!
Another great video Pete. I’m mostly with you other than in respect of Mike Starrs vocals on Strange New Flesh which I’ve always rather liked. The Joni Mitchell cover “Down To You” has amazing melodic guitar work from Gary and never fails to bring a tear to my eyes. I’ve heard that prior to his death Gary had said Colosseum II was the best band in terms of playing ability that he was ever in and I’d agree with that.
1) Valentyne Suite (C) 2) War Dance (CII) 3) Those Who Are About to Die Salute You (C) 4) Electric Savage (CII) 5) The Grass Is Greener (C) 6) Strange New Flesh (CII) 7) Daughter of Time (C) 8) Bread and Circuses (C) 9) Tomorrow’s Blues (C) 10) Time on Our Side (C)
I highly recommend Jon Hiseman’s final album with JCM called Heroes. Jon with Clem and Mark Clarke playing classic tracks including reworkings of the CII tracks Rivers and The Inquisition. It’s excellent.
Colosseum Live 1971, Daughter of Time, Valentyne Suite, Those Who Are About to Die Salute You, Tomorrow's Blues, The Grass is Greener, Bread and Circuses. Colosseum II: Electric Savage and Wardance.
Have you heard the Tempest albums? They arose from the ashes of Colosseum, same drummer and bass player, + a young Allan Holdsworth is the amazing lead guitarist on their 1973 debut.
Pete: The Grass is Greener is the US compilation of 'For Those about to Die' and 'Valentyne suite' It is very confusing with the same cover. 'Beware the Ides of march' is basically an instrumental version of Whiter Shade of Pale.
I have heard the Whiter Shade Comparison before.😂and it really does! I Think Valentine Suite takes it for # 1 for me. I never got into Collasium 2 but I would like to get some from what I've heard so far.
I like Strange New Flesh! I have no problem with the vocals. But whenever people want to complain about something, the vocals are usually an easy target to attack😁
I'm surprised I never had the first Colosseum II album, I really don't think I knew it existed which is weird since Neil Murray on it would have had three performers I would have known(w/Moore and Airey). I had the other two and loved them so I know I would have bought it if I'd have seen it. Usually atleast one cut got on any instrumental mix tapes I made. Never really listened to the original band though.
The U.S. original album version of “ For Those About To Die” features a different version of “ Valentyne Suite” with “ Beware The Ides Of March” at the end. “ Beware The Ides Of March” is based on a Bach melody and was recorded before the Procul Harum song. Both were based on the Bach melody. The live album is great especially the last part of “ Lost Angeles”. I would recommend Tempest- the band Jon Hiseman formed after Colosseum - featured guitar work by the late Alan Holdsworth and Ollie Halsall.😀
Pete, I want your opinion on this. Despite the geographical issue, why do you think Colosseum (1) was not typically grouped with the Canterbury bands, given the significant jazz presence in their music?
Their music is way more bluesy than any of the Canterbury bands, and overall they are lacking that quirky nature which bands like Caravan, Matching Mole, Soft Machine, Hatfield, etc had.
Oops! Should have been a review of Colosseum (sans Colosseum II) and Tempest with Hiseman, Clempson and Mark Clarke. AND with Paul Williams, who was supposed to take over lead vocals from Clempson in Colosseum, but couldn't due to a health condition/problems. Also, "Upon Tomorrow" was originally a Colosseum number. But, even Tempest was almost two completely different bands, sound-wise. Loved their first album -- did not love their second (last) album, without Paul Williams.
Neat to rank them together but two different styles of music for me just as Fleetwood Mac would not work as ranking them all. Valentyne suite and especially the title track is their pinnacle. But for anybody new to them here, it has to be 'Colosseum Live'. Epic stuff and Dave 'Clem' Clempson is on fire, check out the solo on 'Lost Angeles'. The remastered CD has Valentyne suite on it too.
Love both hands. Probably prefer Colosseum 2. There is a great BBC session from 1977, featuring tracks from Wardance & Electric Savage. Also, members of Colosseum 2 played on Andrew Lloyd Webber's Variations album from '78, which is well worth a listen.
I cannot lie I'm not a real big fan of fusion. Gary Moore was basically the main selling point for Colosseum II. Until now didn't know about Colosseum's more recent albums so I'm just ranking the other 7. 1. Valentyne Suite 2. Daughter of Time 3. The Grass Is Greener 4. Those Who Are About to Die Salute You 5. Strange New Flesh 6. Electric Savage 7. War Dance
Still hoping for album rankings for: The Pretty Things Buffalo Springfield (only 3 of them, FFS) Egg (also only 3 of them) The Move (only 4 of them) The Small Faces (also only 4 of them) The Nice (only 5 of them) Greenslade (also only 5 of them) Rare Bird (also only 5 of them) CSN/Y Badfinger Elton John (through the end of the '70s, at the very least) David Bowie (through the end of the '80s, at the very least) The Byrds The Beach Boys (through the mid-'70s, at the very least) Weather Report
Renaissance? I'd love for you to explain why John-to me they are a million miles apart. Renaissance-no electric guitar, piano, female vocals, classical, symphonic rock, no blues or jazz overtones. Colosseum-sax, flute, wailing blues rock guitar, male vocals, jazz & blues arrangements...kind of night and day. Curious to hear your reasoning.
cool,electric savage was one of the first fusion albums i bought,im forever telling so called gary moore fans to check out his playing with colloseum 2,some arent even aware he was in the band,and only know his blues/rock stuff,my fave playing by gm are on the colloseum 2 albums,gives al di meola a run for his money,its interesting a lot of these guys who are famous for playing with mega rock bands moore/airey/neil murray/cozy powell,all included loads of fusion type material in their solo albums,cozy powells solo stuff is proper fusion,with a lot of these guys guesting including clem clempson,as youre probably aware,ray russel is another uk under rated fusion guy worth checking out,if youre not aware of him ua-cam.com/video/4aaGZyUMFeA/v-deo.html
Well Pete, neither Whiter Shade of Pale or Beware The Ides of March are very original songs... Listen to Bach - Air on G String and you will understand were both came from.
hey I wish you would review a really good but totally lost to time band...dirty tricks 3 albums 1975 1976 1977 and done. bluesy hard rock with a great guitarist and a vocalist more steve winwood then steve winwood...
Live Colosseum has always been one of my favourite live albums, nearly wore out the vinyl copy, especially the track 'Lost Angeles' so exciting with Clem Clempson at his best.
awesome video. colosseum is one of my favorite bands ever.
one of the reasons i started making music and playing the drums is jon hiseman / colosseum.
Great review as always Pete. Late in his life I got to know Dick Heckstall-Smith very well. I ran a music venue and he would often appear, he was a musical tart, he would play with anyone because he just loved to play. Ever the professional, before every gig he would practice scales for at least an hour. We spent many (far too late) evenings talking together, drinking (far too much) red wine. He didn't often talk about his career, he was more interested in discussing philosophy and natural phenomena, but a couple of gems here. I once asked him if John Mayall's Bluesbreakers ever appeared with The Paul Butterfield Blues Band and he replied " Yes, in 1967 we did a double header at the Filmore East and at the end of the gig we all got on stage and jammed together. Then again, I don't remember very much about 1967, I was in love at the time."
He also told me that he had played with all the great American sax players, Coltrane, Getz, Turrentine, Hawkins and he said "And to be honest, I can't hold a candle to them, but...... I can play the blues and they can't."
I think his 'Blues in b flat' off the Diary of a Band Vol 11 is drenched in atmosphere and as good a blues sax outing as you will hear.
Frank Zappa saw him playing with Colosseum and said " ...and I dug Colosseum - particularly Dick, the guy who plays tenor and soprano. Does he do sessions in London? he ought to - he's really a bitch."
Thank you for ranking the studio albums of: Colosseum/Colosseum 2. 🎤🎸🎵🥁
I had War Dance on album at one time..Would love to find it on compact disc but it's apparently not available anymore
By the way, Chris Farlowe celebrated his 80th birthday on October 13, 2020
'Strange New Flesh' is a 'must have'...
Wardance & Electric Savage were two of the first albums I ever got while still at school, still love them as much as ever. I visited Gary's grave a couple of weeks ago, the inscription reads 'Loved Beyond The Stars'.
Steve Smith same here, the CII albums are very special to me too.
What about Colosseum Live from 1971, nobody mentions that double LP which was sensational.
Great review. Would love to see a review of the Greenslade albums when you have time.
love Castles,great Moore there , and Put it this Way,too ...good stuff ,love those latter 2 Moore CDs
Was very lucky to have been at The Albert hall Where The Drum Solo on Time Machine Was Recorded.. And that has always made Daughter of Time my favourite...Can I also recommend the Box set Morituri Salutant..it features some very interesting recordings both Live and in The Studio.. As Always great overview of Colosseum's music by Pete.
So glad you did this video, incredible music! Love the song, “Night Creeper!”🙏🏻🎧
GARY MOORE 4EVER! - some of his best jams here! play C II on the show all the time :)
I agree with you
Love this video! I am only familiar with Colosseum II BUT NOW I know where to go with the first incarnation.
for Colosseum II it's Wardance and Electric Savage for me. Some tremendous playing!
Wardance and Electric Savage are my fav two jazz rock albums so thats where i would go. I have listened a bit of Colosseum original but didn't really love what i heard. I have a few Greenslade albums, love them, but it's the Don Airey / Gary Moore duo for me.
Fully agree on your statement.
Kevin Butler agreed. It’s C2 for me, as well.
Another great album is A Story Ended by Dick Heckstall-Smith from 1972. most of the band members from Colosseum with Graham Bond and Chris Spedding play on it. Chris Farlowe is on vocals.
01 - Strange New Flesh.
02 - War Dance.
03 - Electric Savage.
04 - Valentyne Suite.
05 - The Grass Is Greener.
06 - Those Who Are About to Die Salute You.
07 - Daughter of Time.
08 - Tomorrow's Blues.
09 - Bread and Circuses.
10 - Time On Our Side.
Not taking anything away from Colosseum but definitely prefer Colosseum II, due to Gary & Don. I never had an issue with the vocal tracks.
1. Daughter Of Time
2. Bread & Circuses
3. Valentyne Suite
4. Time Is On Our Side
5. Tomorrow's Blues
6. The Grass Is Greener [US album, mostly remakes w/ Clem on vocals/guitar]
7. Those Who Are About To Die Salute You - Morituri Te Salutant
I love Colosseum, all of their albums and I love the last three from after their initial break-up absolutely exciting. Less jazzy, sure, but stronger songwriting and moody vocals. All of them are worth owning - saw them live twice, outstanding of course :)
Their top album to this day remains 1971's Colosseum Live. Their classic line-up at their best.
Actually the only connection between Colosseum and C II is drummer Jon Hiseman despite the name. Barbara Thompson who was Hiseman's wife already played with the band as guest in the 70's but had her own career as bandleader and composer before she joined when Dave Heckstall-Smith died. Her albums with Paraphernalia are pretty good, moody fusion/jazz rock.
I prefer the original Colosseum from the 70's as the most unique version of the band, they came out of the underrated Graham Bond Organisation (some songs in their repertoire even go back to that time). Colosseum II was pretty standard mid-seventies fusion although with a high musical standard but still nothing groundbreaking. The reunion albums go back to the classic phase but sadly add nothing new - they were top musicians and it is mostly their musical skill that attracts you here.
10. Time on Our Side
9. Tomorrow's Blues
8. War Dance (This is a perfect example of the "second wave" of fusion and what sets it apart from the great stuff done in the first half of the 70's. It is not different from legions of other bands that did the same stuff at this time, nothing that makes this record "Colosseum".)
7. Bread and Circuses
6. Electric Savage
5. The Grass Is Greener (This is a US only, however I always had 1971's Collector's Colosseum which had all the tunes from this one that were not on the original Valentyne Suite plus some singles, so it kind of covered the same repertoire)
4. Those About to Die Salute You
3. Strange New Flesh (Great version of Joni Mitchell's Down to You)
2. Valentyne Suite
1. Daughter of Time
Colosseum
1.Valentyne Suite
2. The Grass Is Greener
3.Those Who Are About To Die Salute You
4. Daughter Of Time
Colosseum II
1.Electric Savage
2. War Dance
3. Strange New Flesh
Agree on this and they should be separate rankings with only Hiseman as common.
@@keithshapland903Hiseman didn't want to use the same name, again. The name he chose was, Ghost. But, the record company guy in charge told him that it would be Colosseum II -- or nothing (no record contract).
My personal preference is for Colosseum2 over the original Colosseum, mainly due to Gary Moore and Don Airey, so my top 3 are
1 Wardance,
2 Electric Savage then
3 Strange New Flesh - I agree about the vocals spoiling it a bit, and yes, the extended version has a lot more to offer including a couple of live tracks.
Of the Colosseum Albums, Valentyne Suite is my favourite then the first album, Grass is Greener, Daughter of time, Bread and circuses, Tomorrows blues, Time on Our Side - so fairly similar to Pete's list apart from the Col 2 albums all being at the top.
Colosseum Live would be between those about to die and Valentyne suite.
There are a couple of great dare I say bootlegs out there as well - Colosseum 2 on sight and sound in concert and live in Germany 1977 both great - you may find them if you search on you tube.
Imagine trying to get an album cover like Electric Savage out today? The Colosseum II albums with Gary Moore are brilliant. Cozy Powell's solo albums had people like Moore and Airey on them and were great jazz/rock too.
To me "Strange New Flesh" is their best album, and I like Mike Starrs voice. "Down to You", "Dark Side of the Moog" and "Secret Places" are my favourite songs.
Saw Colosseum11 at Reading Festival in the 70’s remember them well they were very good.
Wondrous space-prog rock band. I really dig Colosseum II - "Strange New Flesh". And the song: "The Dark Side of the Moog" is a masterpiece. Since you talked about Dave Greenslade, how about a show of the Greenslade albums?
I actually owned a copy of valentine suite on American abc dunhill! And then the grass grows greener!! Great job
Agree with a lot of comments on Colosseum Live, their best album by far, then i would rank their first three albums in that order after that. I prefer their debut slightly over Valentine Suite, a footnote to that,James Litherland, who is a fine Guitarist, formed Mogul Thrash with John Wetton and ex members of Average White Band. I would recommend any fans to give their album a listen, similar to Colosseum but with more guitar from Litherland. Never got into Colosseum 2.
Colosseum II - Down To You (Joni Mitchell remake) is superb. There is a part with mostly Don Ariey on keys and Gary Moore on guitar - One of my favorite moments musicians from either of any band. Absolutely fantastic for me!
Good show Pete..there's a good number of songs to enjoy.
I don't really know the original band's stuff that well other than the first album (which I really like), so I'll just stick to Colosseum II. I'm a big Gary Moore fan, so... here we go:
3) War Dance
2) Strange New Flesh
1) Electric Savage
Thanks, Pete!
Great 2 bands. Nice countdown Pete.
Another great video Pete. I’m mostly with you other than in respect of Mike Starrs vocals on Strange New Flesh which I’ve always rather liked. The Joni Mitchell cover “Down To You” has amazing melodic guitar work from Gary and never fails to bring a tear to my eyes. I’ve heard that prior to his death Gary had said Colosseum II was the best band in terms of playing ability that he was ever in and I’d agree with that.
The 2 disc Strange New Flesh is a must have. Lots of goodies on there.
1) Valentyne Suite (C)
2) War Dance (CII)
3) Those Who Are About to Die Salute You (C)
4) Electric Savage (CII)
5) The Grass Is Greener (C)
6) Strange New Flesh (CII)
7) Daughter of Time (C)
8) Bread and Circuses (C)
9) Tomorrow’s Blues (C)
10) Time on Our Side (C)
The Gary Moore/Don Airey Colosseum II releases are the BEST! And Electric Savage just beats out War Dance by a hair
I highly recommend Jon Hiseman’s final album with JCM called Heroes. Jon with Clem and Mark Clarke playing classic tracks including reworkings of the CII tracks Rivers and The Inquisition. It’s excellent.
Pete great show. Suggestion for exploratn - If, Ten Wheel Drive, Electric Flag, Buddy Miles , Ides of March, chase, .
Colosseum Live 1971, Daughter of Time, Valentyne Suite, Those Who Are About to Die Salute You, Tomorrow's Blues, The Grass is Greener, Bread and Circuses.
Colosseum II: Electric Savage and Wardance.
Have you heard the Tempest albums? They arose from the ashes of Colosseum, same drummer and bass player, + a young Allan Holdsworth is the amazing lead guitarist on their 1973 debut.
Pete: The Grass is Greener is the US compilation of 'For Those about to Die' and 'Valentyne suite' It is very confusing with the same cover. 'Beware the Ides of march' is basically an instrumental version of Whiter Shade of Pale.
The U.S. version of, Those Who Are About To Die.... is a compilation of the British release of same and Valentyne Suite -- more or less.
I once told Jon Hiseman that I thought Wardance was in the top five albums he'd ever made in his career. He was surprised about my opinion.
I have heard the Whiter Shade Comparison before.😂and it really does! I Think Valentine Suite takes it for # 1 for me. I never got into Collasium 2 but I would like to get some from what I've heard so far.
I like Strange New Flesh! I have no problem with the vocals. But whenever people want to complain about something, the vocals are usually an easy target to attack😁
Great ranking Pete
I'm surprised I never had the first Colosseum II album, I really don't think I knew it existed which is weird since Neil Murray on it would have had three performers I would have known(w/Moore and Airey). I had the other two and loved them so I know I would have bought it if I'd have seen it. Usually atleast one cut got on any instrumental mix tapes I made. Never really listened to the original band though.
Clem Clempson was of course in Humble Pie, but check out his first band Bakerloo and the song "Son Of Moonshine.
A very fine album that Bakerloo debut.
The U.S. original album version of “ For Those About To Die” features a different version of “ Valentyne Suite” with “ Beware The Ides Of March” at the end. “ Beware The Ides Of March” is based on a Bach melody and was recorded before the Procul Harum song. Both were based on the Bach melody. The live album is great especially the last part of “ Lost Angeles”. I would recommend Tempest- the band Jon Hiseman formed after Colosseum - featured guitar work by the late Alan Holdsworth and Ollie Halsall.😀
The song 'The Kettle' is a heavy rocker!
Pete, I want your opinion on this. Despite the geographical issue, why do you think Colosseum (1) was not typically grouped with the Canterbury bands, given the significant jazz presence in their music?
Their music is way more bluesy than any of the Canterbury bands, and overall they are lacking that quirky nature which bands like Caravan, Matching Mole, Soft Machine, Hatfield, etc had.
@@seaoftranquilityprog Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you!
Now I am confused do Tempest fit into the picture too.
They were the in-between band, but completely different to either.
Oops! Should have been a review of Colosseum (sans Colosseum II) and Tempest with Hiseman, Clempson and Mark Clarke. AND with Paul Williams, who was supposed to take over lead vocals from Clempson in Colosseum, but couldn't due to a health condition/problems. Also, "Upon Tomorrow" was originally a Colosseum number. But, even Tempest was almost two completely different bands, sound-wise. Loved their first album -- did not love their second (last) album, without Paul Williams.
Pete can you do a rating of the Jon Hiseman's Tempest albums as well?
And also, the more recent "live" BBC album(s) by Tempest.
Neat to rank them together but two different styles of music for me just as Fleetwood Mac would not work as ranking them all. Valentyne suite and especially the title track is their pinnacle. But for anybody new to them here, it has to be 'Colosseum Live'. Epic stuff and Dave 'Clem' Clempson is on fire, check out the solo on 'Lost Angeles'. The remastered CD has Valentyne suite on it too.
Any band with Gary Moore and Don Airy has my interest. Will be exploring the catalog.
Love both hands. Probably prefer Colosseum 2. There is a great BBC session from 1977, featuring tracks from Wardance & Electric Savage.
Also, members of Colosseum 2 played on Andrew Lloyd Webber's Variations album from '78, which is well worth a listen.
Pete what would you say the difference is between Jazz Rock and Fusion?
It's very similar, though I find most jazz-rock bands still have a touch of blues in their music.
I have Daughter of Time, very theatrical performances on that one.
*last exit* by colosseum II recollects maggot brain played by eddie hazel.
So if the only album I have is War Dance and I think it is just ok...I can take a pass on the rest of the catalogue?
Listen to the Colosseum stuff then-it's less fusiony than the CII albums, more blues rock/jazz-rock
I cannot lie I'm not a real big fan of fusion. Gary Moore was basically the main selling point for Colosseum II. Until now didn't know about Colosseum's more recent albums so I'm just ranking the other 7.
1. Valentyne Suite
2. Daughter of Time
3. The Grass Is Greener
4. Those Who Are About to Die Salute You
5. Strange New Flesh
6. Electric Savage
7. War Dance
what about a special feature if not yet done by david fokin byron alone
Still hoping for album rankings for:
The Pretty Things
Buffalo Springfield (only 3 of them, FFS)
Egg (also only 3 of them)
The Move (only 4 of them)
The Small Faces (also only 4 of them)
The Nice (only 5 of them)
Greenslade (also only 5 of them)
Rare Bird (also only 5 of them)
CSN/Y
Badfinger
Elton John (through the end of the '70s, at the very least)
David Bowie (through the end of the '80s, at the very least)
The Byrds
The Beach Boys (through the mid-'70s, at the very least)
Weather Report
Move now have six Something else is an lp as is the live one.
@@tutenvanman2715 _Something Else_ was actually an EP, and he doesn't rank live albums with the studio albums.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy Actually it was a one sided demo single first then an ep and finally an lp. I was under the impression all studio albums were live.
Colosseum Live
Colosseum II Electric Savage
cool!
My favorite album.is war dance
clem clempson humble pie chris farlowe atomic rooster dave greenslade his band greenslade it's like colosseum
when i listen to colosseum i hear renaissance
Renaissance? I'd love for you to explain why John-to me they are a million miles apart. Renaissance-no electric guitar, piano, female vocals, classical, symphonic rock, no blues or jazz overtones. Colosseum-sax, flute, wailing blues rock guitar, male vocals, jazz & blues arrangements...kind of night and day. Curious to hear your reasoning.
Jazz Rock reminds me of Spinal Tap
Try to rank Greenslade
cool,electric savage was one of the first fusion albums i bought,im forever telling so called gary moore fans to check out his playing with colloseum 2,some arent even aware he was in the band,and only know his blues/rock stuff,my fave playing by gm are on the colloseum 2 albums,gives al di meola a run for his money,its interesting a lot of these guys who are famous for playing with mega rock bands moore/airey/neil murray/cozy powell,all included loads of fusion type material in their solo albums,cozy powells solo stuff is proper fusion,with a lot of these guys guesting including clem clempson,as youre probably aware,ray russel is another uk under rated fusion guy worth checking out,if youre not aware of him ua-cam.com/video/4aaGZyUMFeA/v-deo.html
Возможно не стоило сравнивать I и II......
Well Pete, neither Whiter Shade of Pale or Beware The Ides of March are very original songs... Listen to Bach - Air on G String and you will understand were both came from.
hey I wish you would review a really good but totally lost to time band...dirty tricks 3 albums 1975 1976 1977 and done. bluesy hard rock with a great guitarist and a vocalist more steve winwood then steve winwood...
I've never heard of them.
If anyone is interested in Dirty Tricks: www.decibelmagazine.com/2018/03/08/primitive-origins-dirty-tricks-dirty-tricks/
mark clark from uriah heep
is colosseum pure progressive rock
Not at all...I'd say it's more jazz-rock/blues-rock than prog.
I think Clem Clemson died.
Nope, he's still alive and well!