Cabal Ranks - Destiny Lore

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • Can rhinos lead other rhinos? With a hint of Roman Empire.
    Curated Rolls:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:25 - Ranks
    1:56 - Bracus
    2:33 - Vals
    2:53 - Commander
    3:41 - Field Commander
    4:10 - Valus
    4:38 - Primus
    5:05 - Dominus
    6:03 - Psion - Introduction
    6:31 - Psion - Capabilities
    6:52 - Psion - Culture
    9:10 - The End
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  • @mihaly_wt8367
    @mihaly_wt8367 3 роки тому +88

    Bracus zavala hits different

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +29

      I mean, he'd be given a seat on her war council, that netts an automatic Valus or even Primus upgrade with Cabal-related perks and health benefits.

    • @rubiojesse4991
      @rubiojesse4991 3 роки тому +15

      @@Moffee Confirmed,Zavala has dental coverage

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +23

      @@rubiojesse4991 Maybe a chiropractor too, seeing as how his voice actor's been hard carrying the entire series since Cayde's death.

    • @mutrad5
      @mutrad5 3 роки тому +8

      Bracus Zavala colossus of the last city

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +11

      @@mutrad5 Literal grow thiccc with strength.

  • @SirSeed
    @SirSeed 3 роки тому +81

    fun fact: the cabal military ranks are from roman origins while the vex are named off of greek mythological creatures

  • @cameronmunro655
    @cameronmunro655 3 роки тому +91

    I will miss the red war missions.... so sad

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +16

      It's relatively short, to be honest, the story develops way too fast without any time to let any of the events sink in. The impact from Forsaken was far better.

    • @toby1061
      @toby1061 3 роки тому +10

      Moffee I know but you can’t say that you didn’t miss fighting some of the most threatening Cabal in some of the largest numbers.

  • @stephenn1056
    @stephenn1056 3 роки тому +28

    Design of the cabal: roman empire, but diesel punk

  • @AymenDZA
    @AymenDZA 3 роки тому +59

    the more we know about Psions the more I'm convinced that the Cabal "conquering" them was only because they let them.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +18

      So tempted to put a "Your psions say no, but your hearts say yes" joke in here somewhere.

  • @Rbocop
    @Rbocop 3 роки тому +10

    Why do destiny 1 cabal bosses look so badass

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +6

      Because they were.

  • @sne4ky1337
    @sne4ky1337 3 роки тому +28

    bruh imagine the guardians are the supirior race and caiatl wants zavala to be a fcking bracus? lmao

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +10

      We don't do that here, Primus or above + Prime Health Benefits and Insurance coverage only. Oh and dental too.

    • @D0M1N1Z
      @D0M1N1Z 3 роки тому +1

      @@Moffee don't forget a 401k

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому

      @@D0M1N1Z Pretty sure it's going to be 401kk with the amount of riches the Cabal Empire has.

  • @notalexzander2
    @notalexzander2 3 роки тому +20

    Commander is equivalent to a Valus according to dialogue from some EDZ public events.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +5

      I think there's been a conflict in script here though, seeing as how in certain events, at least in both early and later part of Destiny 1 and 2, a Valus is seen more of a captain or at least a high officer of a squad/legion. For example, Valus Nohr, it was said that she commanded the Shadows of Calus, yes, an elite force, but not a group large enough to be considered a faction of its own, otherwise she would have authority over a significant amount of Calus's loyalist legions.
      Another example is Valus Thuun, or even Valus Pra'urg who would appear as the main, or mini bosses of the strikes Tree of Probabilities and The Insight Terminus separately. While they do hold authority over some, it's not quite as significant as Zavala, as he is the acting commander of the entire Vanguard, including the Hunter and Warlocks. Though on paper Ikora is still the Warlock Vanguard, it's no surprise that everyone looks towards Zavala in a much higher capacity.
      Why I would say Primus fits the bill here is that some strong examples is before Ghaul took on the mantle of Dominus(Emperor) of the Cabal Empire, his role was the Primus of the Red Legion, which is a standing faction of its own. Another example is Umun Arath, Evocate-General, also known as Primus of all Legions. Lastly, Primus Ta'aun was the commander of the Skyburners legion.
      Edit: But still, there's been some inconsistencies with the scripts every here and there, would you happen to know which EDZ dialogue specifically, so we can look into it as well?

    • @notalexzander2
      @notalexzander2 3 роки тому +2

      @@Moffee I think it’s the heroic extraction rig where you kill the excavator Valus which both your ghost and Devrim refer to as a commander at some point, and I was talking about the cabal “commander” rank, which is probably an informal equivalent to Valus

  • @zen4ever3
    @zen4ever3 3 роки тому +26

    Fun fact: the red war was originally going to be called forge of Gods. It was meant to be a dlc for d1. Unfortunately that was scrapped and instead rise of iron was made. This also caused a vex dlc to be scrapped. However a cutscene from this vex dlc was leaked and was later used for the season of undying.

    • @AymenDZA
      @AymenDZA 3 роки тому +6

      then everything changed when Activision attacked

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +3

      I remember the Forge of Gods, I think the Vex DLC was supposed to be titled Vex Void or something similar.

    • @zen4ever3
      @zen4ever3 3 роки тому +1

      @@Moffee yeah, your an og

  • @lejenddairy
    @lejenddairy 3 роки тому +35

    I loved the design models for the cabal on D1. On D2 they look overly techie and look like hamsters. D1 they looked a lot more rugged and barbaric.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +9

      I agree, in D1 they were OG scary to fight with, but in D2 they look more like Hamtaro wearing transformers gear.

    • @lejenddairy
      @lejenddairy 3 роки тому +8

      @@Moffee also, if I’m not mistaken, I think it was stated in the first Destiny that cabal had to wear pressurized suits in order to live in our atmosphere so their bodies were completely covered up in D1, however in D2 I guess that idea was scrapped because a lot of the cabal are shown with their skin exposed. Maybe there’s an explanation for why the change occurred in the lore somewhere or Bungie just wanted to change things up because they didn’t like the original idea. I find it interesting regardless.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +11

      @@lejenddairy True, but they still maintained a slight idea to that concept, with headshots resulting in depressurized mini air explosions.

    • @s_cky6872
      @s_cky6872 3 роки тому +4

      Seeing D1 Cabal (Or any enemy really), they look a LOT more ready for military operations, sporting heavier armor plating. In D2, they seem to have dropped a lot of it for more "symbolic" looking uniforms.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +2

      @@s_cky6872 Merely decorations, compliments of Calus.

  • @razielgrave224
    @razielgrave224 2 роки тому +4

    Now Saladin is a Valus, pretty sure he'll be a Primus soon.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  2 роки тому +3

      I wouldn't be surprised if Caiatl arranges for him to be her second in command, as the new Dominus.

    • @razielgrave224
      @razielgrave224 2 роки тому +1

      @@Moffee Too much baggage with Ghaul to have a new Dominus, imo.

  • @Marine_Animations
    @Marine_Animations 3 роки тому +17

    “Whether we wanted it or not...

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +15

      Whether we wanted it or not, we've been charged with the task of clapping some Caiatl Cabal cheeks to put them in their rightful place, out of our Sol system.

    • @Marine_Animations
      @Marine_Animations 3 роки тому +9

      @@Moffee so let’s get to taking out their champion in the Rite of Proving. Ignovun

  • @vexen5674
    @vexen5674 3 роки тому +5

    No ranks if no cabal laughs in gunslinger

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому

      I mean, technically we can rank them in terms of which shot hit them. "I rank the big one number 5, because that's the 5th bullet I shot"

    • @vexen5674
      @vexen5674 3 роки тому

      @@Moffee Nah I'll just rank em for how annoying asf they were to kill like damn Psions tryna playing ring around the Rosie around a rock/pillar with me.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому

      @@vexen5674 The secret is to just sit still and let them come around to you instead.

    • @vexen5674
      @vexen5674 3 роки тому

      @@Moffee Easier said than done when you're being fired at by 4 other Psions + Centurions and Calossus'.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому

      @@vexen5674 they can't shoot you if they're dead, young one.

  • @liamburns5104
    @liamburns5104 16 днів тому

    This is very interesting.

  • @tmwamala601
    @tmwamala601 Рік тому

    Bracus = Lieutenant/Lieutenant Commander
    Val = Captain
    Valus = Vice Admiral
    Primus = Admiral
    Dominus = Master or Owner (I think)

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Рік тому

      Top to bottom I'd say along the lines of (I'm not claiming to be a military expert, if anyone is familiar with the ranking system is modern military, please correct me):
      Dominus = Military Dictator, perhaps a Commander-in-Chief, if compared to modern day military generals that performs coups.
      Primus = Let's not forget Evocate-General, which can be compared to Fleet Admirals
      Valus = True, since they mostly report to Primuses (Primi?)
      Val = If they report directly to a Valus, wouldn't this make them Rear Admirals, if such a rank would be applied?
      Bracus = Could also be equivalent Captain/Commander. What would be the difference between a Captain and a Lieutenant? (Legitimate question).

  • @sentinel_loyalist7727
    @sentinel_loyalist7727 2 роки тому +1

    The 2 Cabal Commander Officers Of Ghauls Army I Like From The Red War Campaign Would Of Been Bracus Zahn The Arms Dealer And Thumos The Unbroken.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  2 роки тому +2

      Thumos, that's speculated to be the leader of the Blood Guards?

    • @sentinel_loyalist7727
      @sentinel_loyalist7727 2 роки тому +1

      @@Moffee Yeah that's true your right he was also one of Ghauls loyal command officers

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  2 роки тому +1

      @@sentinel_loyalist7727 His personal blood guards, iirc, yeah

  • @antoniolim762
    @antoniolim762 2 роки тому +1

    Can't wait if we will see a Dominus Saladin....the Future Lore of Destiny is massive and epic...i hope they don't fudge it up...or Saladin dies...someone is quite dying at Witch Queen End...hmmm...wonder who among our NPCs would get GoT'ed :D ?

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  2 роки тому +1

      Please let it be sweet ol' Eva Levante, she's led a good life, and her death may unite all guardians against the Darkness.

  • @harambememorialpage
    @harambememorialpage 2 роки тому +1

    I’d rather join the cabal like our iron lord

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  2 роки тому +1

      They still haven't given him his Bracchus title, this is appalling, to be honest.

    • @blazeoftherazgrizsquadron9306
      @blazeoftherazgrizsquadron9306 2 роки тому +1

      Saladin was a Bracus for only about a week before he defeated the Valus on board the Ascendant fleet under Empress Caital and usurped that title. He is now Valus Forge.

  • @chubby33225
    @chubby33225 3 роки тому +16

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    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +4

      That would be awesome, thanks, brother

    • @chubby33225
      @chubby33225 3 роки тому +2

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    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  3 роки тому +3

      That is great to hear, but make sure they're doing it willingly from enjoyment of our content, haha. And thanks a lot!

    • @chubby33225
      @chubby33225 3 роки тому +2

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