Picked up the 8th gen 7, with m.2 and 11pro installed for $114 plus shipping on eBay. Got lucky! This laptop is great for everything. School, work and play. Even with upgrade costs, better than the new ones coming out these days. Upgraded to 2tb and 32gb ram. Batteries still at 70%. So those might be next. Great video showcasing the little beast.
Nice man, got i5 gen 8, battery, charger, and good condition for $119. Will do the same with mine of upgrading to 32 gb and 1-2 tb nvme. Maybe get duel heatsink since people are saying it’s good
Nice, got mine for about $180 with 8gb ram, 250gb storage and 150 cycles on the battery. Im living in the EU so prices are a bit inflated. I’m upgrading this to 24Gb ram and 512gb m.2
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
Bought one 2 days ago. Card reader, fingerprint, backlit keyboard (although German), FHD, basically everything I wanted except touch screen but that's whatever. For just 250 euros, base spec but I'll buy cheap upgrades off amazon or something. Love it, minimal damages keyboard and everything is flawless 🔥🔥🔥
I highly recommend undervolting the CPU of your Thinkpad T480. Previously, my i5-8350U scored 3300 in 3 passes, now it can get 3900 for 3 passes, or over 4k for a single run. (Cinebench R23)
@@benchmarks31 Are you suggesting that the temps are higher because of the undervolt? I doubt it's because of that. You might want to check other metrics in ThrottleStop. Personally, I'm fine with my CPU running at max temps under load. I got a 4234 Cinebench multi-core score with 4 passes this morning after trying out a bit more undervolting.
No, you misunderstood. The temperatures are high before undervolting. Even in the video you can see that the temperatures on stock settings are very high - 90 degrees Celsius during gaming.
It’s funny your i5 CPU performed better than my i7-8650U by 300 points (R23) even though my CPU has a better cooling system (dual heat pipe which only comes with dedicated GPU). My laptop stutters a lot in Minecraft and other games compared to you, and the display is not even Full HD!. I think I lost the silicon lottery. I’m still thankful I own one of the greatest laptops out there, I didn’t buy it for gaming in the first place. I appreciate your video 👍.
I have exactly the same t480 as you. your instance probably has poor CPU and GPU cooling. you need to check the density of pressing the planes of the copper radiator to the planes of the CPU and GPU crystals. stamping of copper plates can have small defects in the form of protrusions, which makes it impossible to press the cooling radiator and chips. it is necessary to align the planes as much as possible, by the method of grinding and polishing, constantly applying, to compare the contacting planes. one more nuance, the temperature sensor, which in the form of a wire, is pressed against the side plate of the radiator, reacts too slowly to the rise in temperature, and it needs to be moved to the heat pipes. then the fan will react faster, increasing the speed earlier than now. thus cpu throttling will not be as critical. Also, it's a software problem in temperature and CPU frequency management, which drops when the mx150 GPU exceeds 70°C. also, before starting the game on t480, give the laptop some time for the antivirus to scan the system, and only then start the game. try it good luck
Just bought one in pristine condition - new screen - new keyboard, 16 GB of new RAM, new 1 TB SSD drive, Win 11 Pro, new battery, for £295 ($360) delivered from a reputable supplier! Construction is FAR better than recent ThinkPads, and everything is upgradeable/repairable. On recent models, everything is on the motherboard and repairs simply aren't economically viable. Easy to find - my source has 2,800 in stock. If you don't need high end gaming, this is the best buy on the market and should last for years.
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
The touch screen is practically no different from a regular FHD. Battery life may be slightly lower, but not enough to worry about it. I was skeptical about laptops with a touch screen, but after purchasing the X1 Yoga I completely changed my mind and I think it is quite a nice and convenient option.
@@benchmarks31 ..interesting. I have never viewed the two screens (touch vs non-touch) side by side. Is it possible to notice any differnce by simply looking at them? The Lenovo specs lists the same brightness etc. Wish there was a side by side video on it. The battery life is over 9 hours so I doubt all those who say it kills 30 percent of battery life.
30 percent less battery life by using a touch screen? That can't be true. Unfortunately, I don't have a touchscreen T480, so I can only rely on what I can see on UA-cam or read.
@@benchmarks31 ,,i suspect that you are correct. I doubt that there is any difference, or at least no measurable difference. In fact, I doubt that the screen even appears different. It may be that the touch is a better looking image. Seems just about perfect from looking at it. Wish Windows 10 had better Aero transparancy like Windows 7, though.
T490 = better display, better speakers, but partly soldered RAM, and non removable battery. T480 = dim display, and terrible speakers, but fully replaceable RAM, and replaceable battery. I went for the T490, because I need a good display, and most Thinkpads have always had terrible displays, something that youtube fanboys never mention.
@@Shtedko The t480s doesn't have powerbridge and it's ram is soldered The t480 was the last great traditional Thinkpad There's still a couple modern Thinkpads that are decent but have a couple of the traditional Thinkpad features removed
@@Zeroneii3 Im wondering which one i should get rn. The options are two: T480 i5-8250U 32 gig ram UHD 620 T480S i7-8650U 24 gig ram UHD 620 Price is pretty much the same. I think specs wise the t480s is better and the second heatsink is nice too. However im a little sceptical about the battery as its a used laptop, but I do have a decent 72 Wh battery that I could easily put on the T480. Both got pros and cons🤷♂️
I got mine 2 days ago for $200 and so far it performs great. 16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and i5 8250u processor, with battery lasting for 5h approximately when watching movies or UA-cam videos which is great. Only issue I have is the display screen and colors on it that seem desaturated in some way, it's 14" inch so I was wondering is there any way to upgrade this and what display screen would be the best option for it since there's a lot of them on the market?
A485 is an interesting alternative to the T480. It's a solid choice if you prefer AMD's cpus. However, keep in mind that the A485 might have some minor differences in battery life and thermals compared to the T480.
I got its smaller sibling, X280, but without backlit keyboard. I wonder if I can replace it into backlit one. Otherwise, it performs well for my needs.
Will this be fine with a lightweight linux distro for programming (computer science engineering)? I think it should be. I only plan to use it for classes and exams since I already have a beast computer.
i3-1215U is a better choice for virtualization due to its newer Alder Lake architecture, hybrid core design (P-cores and E-cores), and higher performance, making it more suitable for modern hypervisors and multiple virtual machines. While the i5-8250U is still capable for simpler virtualization tasks, it falls behind in terms of efficiency and overall performance.
I would also look at the L380, while it lack the build quality of a T480, ive found mine to be awesome once I switched to linux mint. I got it for $200 with i7 8550u 16gm, 512 SSD and FHD display
It depends on your preferences. The X390 is basically a 13-inch T490. However, it is important to note that the X390 has RAM soldered in, so it is not easy to upgrade.
@benchmarks31 thanks. Sadly I had to get the x390 yoga instead of the t480. I still think it should be alright for what I have to do. It's also just temporary (at least that's what I'm telling myself)
@benchmarks31 so (random question) would it be better to keep windows 10 pro on this x390 yoga? Or should I update to the more demanding windows 11? Where this has only 8gb ram I'm worried about the functionality if I need more demanding things to be ran.
I have the ThinkPad T480s. Intel Quad-Core i5-8350U with 1.7GHz, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB SSD. It's a Linux machine now. I plan on more mods, but I can't seem to find time and access to another laptop to do everything at once. Dual fans, memory expansion, possibly a touch screen mod, but performance first.
The T480 has two RAM slots and Power Bridge. The T490 doesn't offer any improvements. Both models use Intel's 8th generation processors. So in my opinion the choice is simple - the T480.
Bro I have the chance to buy the i7 version, they're only like 30$ more expensive than i5 version should I go for it and then later upgrade the 256 storage? I know you said i5 is the optimal but I feel 8th Gen and i7 will age better than 7th gen i5
A485 can outperform the T480 in benchmarks, but it depends on the specific configuration. For example, the ThinkPad A485 with Ryzen 5 2500U has a Cinebench R23 score very close to the i5-8250U, but its RX Vega 8 iGPU scores about 104% higher in 3DMark Fire Strike. This means the A485 with R5 2500U will have better gaming performance than the T480 with i5-8250U and UHD 620.
Bought the ThinkPad E470 Intel Core i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz,128 GB SSD,8GB ram,Resolution1920 X 1080,Screen Size 14",Internal Graphics Intel(R) HD Graphics 620,Windows 10 Pro, i love it,when it starts to go slow on me i will install Linux.
I have FHD touchscreen model T480 20L6. I just do not like brightness 250 nits. Friends, on which model screen I can replace it for more brightness screen?
@@МелашРоthere are folks that have documented upgrading the screen to even a 4k 500 nit model. Just gotta search around, reddit is a decent place to start.
Anyone owning this laptop had problems with overheating? Even when runing things like Photoshop or classic WoW my would turn into a jet engine that burns on touch..
Will be usable for another 10 years. Other planned obsolescence laptop like MacBook Air M1 only last 3 years that is if a soldered SSD doesn’t die first lol
Picked up the 8th gen 7, with m.2 and 11pro installed for $114 plus shipping on eBay. Got lucky! This laptop is great for everything. School, work and play. Even with upgrade costs, better than the new ones coming out these days. Upgraded to 2tb and 32gb ram. Batteries still at 70%. So those might be next. Great video showcasing the little beast.
Good deal!
Nice man, got i5 gen 8, battery, charger, and good condition for $119. Will do the same with mine of upgrading to 32 gb and 1-2 tb nvme. Maybe get duel heatsink since people are saying it’s good
That's way better than mine for 160$
Nice, got mine for about $180 with 8gb ram, 250gb storage and 150 cycles on the battery. Im living in the EU so prices are a bit inflated. I’m upgrading this to 24Gb ram and 512gb m.2
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
Bought one 2 days ago. Card reader, fingerprint, backlit keyboard (although German), FHD, basically everything I wanted except touch screen but that's whatever. For just 250 euros, base spec but I'll buy cheap upgrades off amazon or something. Love it, minimal damages keyboard and everything is flawless 🔥🔥🔥
I think there is a mod for touch screen
@@DhananjayKumarMishra-e5g there is
@@DhananjayKumarMishra-e5g although you lose some of the options. Personally I don't like touch screen pc
got mine, same specs us keyboard for 120€
I highly recommend undervolting the CPU of your Thinkpad T480. Previously, my i5-8350U scored 3300 in 3 passes, now it can get 3900 for 3 passes, or over 4k for a single run. (Cinebench R23)
Thanks for suggestion. I've been undervolting the T480 a bit lately, the temperatures are suspiciously high even while watching UA-cam.
@@benchmarks31 Are you suggesting that the temps are higher because of the undervolt? I doubt it's because of that. You might want to check other metrics in ThrottleStop. Personally, I'm fine with my CPU running at max temps under load. I got a 4234 Cinebench multi-core score with 4 passes this morning after trying out a bit more undervolting.
No, you misunderstood. The temperatures are high before undervolting. Even in the video you can see that the temperatures on stock settings are very high - 90 degrees Celsius during gaming.
@@benchmarks31 Wont undervolting reduce temperatures?
Yes, it will lower the temperature. That's why I've recently become interested in CPU undervolting and I'm planning to do it on my T480.
Man thanks for this video, im planning to buy a t480 next month
With an i5 8250u 16gb of ram and 512gb m.2 ssd
I think iml enjoy it
you tested like 50 games! thank you, you deserve more views/subs 💚
just found out that the usb-c and thunderbolt ports are also always on too
Thanks for the info!
It’s funny your i5 CPU performed better than my i7-8650U by 300 points (R23) even though my CPU has a better cooling system (dual heat pipe which only comes with dedicated GPU).
My laptop stutters a lot in Minecraft and other games compared to you, and the display is not even Full HD!. I think I lost the silicon lottery. I’m still thankful I own one of the greatest laptops out there, I didn’t buy it for gaming in the first place.
I appreciate your video 👍.
I have exactly the same t480 as you. your instance probably has poor CPU and GPU cooling. you need to check the density of pressing the planes of the copper radiator to the planes of the CPU and GPU crystals. stamping of copper plates can have small defects in the form of protrusions, which makes it impossible to press the cooling radiator and chips. it is necessary to align the planes as much as possible, by the method of grinding and polishing, constantly applying, to compare the contacting planes. one more nuance, the temperature sensor, which in the form of a wire, is pressed against the side plate of the radiator, reacts too slowly to the rise in temperature, and it needs to be moved to the heat pipes. then the fan will react faster, increasing the speed earlier than now. thus cpu throttling will not be as critical. Also, it's a software problem in temperature and CPU frequency management, which drops when the mx150 GPU exceeds 70°C. also, before starting the game on t480, give the laptop some time for the antivirus to scan the system, and only then start the game. try it good luck
Change the thermal paste, it helped some.
Use Sodium mod for Minecraft
I get 100-150 fps with a 40 chunk render with the i7 8650u
Just bought one in pristine condition - new screen - new keyboard, 16 GB of new RAM, new 1 TB SSD drive, Win 11 Pro, new battery, for £295 ($360) delivered from a reputable supplier! Construction is FAR better than recent ThinkPads, and everything is upgradeable/repairable. On recent models, everything is on the motherboard and repairs simply aren't economically viable. Easy to find - my source has 2,800 in stock. If you don't need high end gaming, this is the best buy on the market and should last for years.
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
The touch screen is practically no different from a regular FHD. Battery life may be slightly lower, but not enough to worry about it. I was skeptical about laptops with a touch screen, but after purchasing the X1 Yoga I completely changed my mind and I think it is quite a nice and convenient option.
@@benchmarks31 ..interesting. I have never viewed the two screens (touch vs non-touch) side by side. Is it possible to notice any differnce by simply looking at them? The Lenovo specs lists the same brightness etc. Wish there was a side by side video on it. The battery life is over 9 hours so I doubt all those who say it kills 30 percent of battery life.
30 percent less battery life by using a touch screen? That can't be true. Unfortunately, I don't have a touchscreen T480, so I can only rely on what I can see on UA-cam or read.
@@benchmarks31 ,,i suspect that you are correct. I doubt that there is any difference, or at least no measurable difference. In fact, I doubt that the screen even appears different. It may be that the touch is a better looking image. Seems just about perfect from looking at it. Wish Windows 10 had better Aero transparancy like Windows 7, though.
my man, they practically made you a 70ish $ discount by giving you one with touch.
Bravo! Excellent job
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No
Thank you very much for the effort! ❤️
Next Thinkpad T480s Sir
yessss pls
@@JoseDiaz-qd7igBattery is disappointing on T480s.
@@EternalEnemylike what? How much battery hour u get
Amazing in depth review!!!!
This is a good video I was looking for a laptop for coding this will be a great start
nice video you deserve more subs
Thanks for the explanation, but is the T490 the same performance and is it better
T490 = better display, better speakers, but partly soldered RAM, and non removable battery. T480 = dim display, and terrible speakers, but fully replaceable RAM, and replaceable battery. I went for the T490, because I need a good display, and most Thinkpads have always had terrible displays, something that youtube fanboys never mention.
i hope to get T580 i5 model this year..
How was it
@@omkarpawar7502 still no chance to find one in local market.
How about compared to T490? I'm confused which one to choose 😅
yesss pls
t480 was the last decent Thinkpad in the txx0 lineup
The ones have soldered ram and shit yk
@@Zeroneii3when everyone says the t480 is the last great thinkpad, does that also apply to the t480s? thinking of getting one
@@Shtedko The t480s doesn't have powerbridge and it's ram is soldered
The t480 was the last great traditional Thinkpad
There's still a couple modern Thinkpads that are decent but have a couple of the traditional Thinkpad features removed
@@Zeroneii3 Im wondering which one i should get rn. The options are two:
T480 i5-8250U 32 gig ram UHD 620
T480S i7-8650U 24 gig ram UHD 620
Price is pretty much the same.
I think specs wise the t480s is better and the second heatsink is nice too.
However im a little sceptical about the battery as its a used laptop, but I do have a decent 72 Wh battery that I could easily put on the T480. Both got pros and cons🤷♂️
I got mine 2 days ago for $200 and so far it performs great. 16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and i5 8250u processor, with battery lasting for 5h approximately when watching movies or UA-cam videos which is great. Only issue I have is the display screen and colors on it that seem desaturated in some way, it's 14" inch so I was wondering is there any way to upgrade this and what display screen would be the best option for it since there's a lot of them on the market?
Your opinion on ThinkPad A485? It's basically the AMD Ryzen version of the ThinkPad T480, they are very similar
A485 is an interesting alternative to the T480. It's a solid choice if you prefer AMD's cpus. However, keep in mind that the A485 might have some minor differences in battery life and thermals compared to the T480.
how about the battery life? do you get 5-7 hrs on its battery?
My T480 has a very worn out battery and lasts about 2-3 hours. A new one should last about 7 hours.
Good Review 🎉
I got its smaller sibling, X280, but without backlit keyboard. I wonder if I can replace it into backlit one. Otherwise, it performs well for my needs.
Yes, you can replace the keyboard with a backlit one in the X280.
Will this be fine with a lightweight linux distro for programming (computer science engineering)? I think it should be. I only plan to use it for classes and exams since I already have a beast computer.
Yes, the T480 will work great with Linux! Thinkpads generally have great Linux compatibility.
@@benchmarks31 thanks!
Did gta 5 run smoothly on it? I have a 32gb one of this laptop and it’s great
amazing review
Can I code on VS and play the yt videos at fhd at same time without any issue ??
Should be fine, but it will depend on the complexity of your code.
This is the ThinkPad with the same spec that i use for work still . I´d say , T480 is still a very good laptop for office work
Is it good for virtualization? Or should i go for laptop with i3 1215u?
i3-1215U is a better choice for virtualization due to its newer Alder Lake architecture, hybrid core design (P-cores and E-cores), and higher performance, making it more suitable for modern hypervisors and multiple virtual machines. While the i5-8250U is still capable for simpler virtualization tasks, it falls behind in terms of efficiency and overall performance.
is there a great difference between t480 and t480s
Yes its T 480s is a low end Slim model of T 480 has soldered ram and smaller battery.
I would also look at the L380, while it lack the build quality of a T480, ive found mine to be awesome once I switched to linux mint. I got it for $200 with i7 8550u 16gm, 512 SSD and FHD display
can u do rhe comparison with n100?
So, im getting refurbished laptop for school cause its cheaper. Is the T480 a better pick then the X390? They are both similar specs, different ports.
It depends on your preferences. The X390 is basically a 13-inch T490. However, it is important to note that the X390 has RAM soldered in, so it is not easy to upgrade.
@benchmarks31 thanks. Sadly I had to get the x390 yoga instead of the t480. I still think it should be alright for what I have to do. It's also just temporary (at least that's what I'm telling myself)
X390 Yoga is a great laptop! I have X1 Yoga 1st gen (i5 6th gen) and it is a great laptop for browsing the internet and watching YT.
@benchmarks31 so (random question) would it be better to keep windows 10 pro on this x390 yoga? Or should I update to the more demanding windows 11? Where this has only 8gb ram I'm worried about the functionality if I need more demanding things to be ran.
It depends a lot on your preferences. However, considering your X390 only has 8GB of RAM, I would suggest sticking with Windows 10.
I have the ThinkPad T480s. Intel Quad-Core i5-8350U with 1.7GHz, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB SSD. It's a Linux machine now. I plan on more mods, but I can't seem to find time and access to another laptop to do everything at once. Dual fans, memory expansion, possibly a touch screen mod, but performance first.
Which is better t480 or t480s?
Hello there,
Can it play league of legends?
Pls suggest..which one is better for coding practice T480 or T490? Waiting for your reply..thank you
The T480 has two RAM slots and Power Bridge. The T490 doesn't offer any improvements. Both models use Intel's 8th generation processors. So in my opinion the choice is simple - the T480.
One of best laptop series of all time along with HP Elitebooks.
Bro I have the chance to buy the i7 version, they're only like 30$ more expensive than i5 version should I go for it and then later upgrade the 256 storage? I know you said i5 is the optimal but I feel 8th Gen and i7 will age better than 7th gen i5
Can someone help me where I can buy this Thinkpad T480?
Does the a485 have better benchmark?
A485 can outperform the T480 in benchmarks, but it depends on the specific configuration. For example, the ThinkPad A485 with Ryzen 5 2500U has a Cinebench R23 score very close to the i5-8250U, but its RX Vega 8 iGPU scores about 104% higher in 3DMark Fire Strike. This means the A485 with R5 2500U will have better gaming performance than the T480 with i5-8250U and UHD 620.
Bought the ThinkPad E470 Intel Core i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz,128 GB SSD,8GB ram,Resolution1920 X 1080,Screen Size 14",Internal Graphics Intel(R) HD Graphics 620,Windows 10 Pro, i love it,when it starts to go slow on me i will install Linux.
Lenovo keyboards are great. Even replacing them is a satisfying process
T470 best laptop i have
I have FHD touchscreen model T480 20L6. I just do not like brightness 250 nits. Friends, on which model screen I can replace it for more brightness screen?
The brightest screen for the T480 is the WQHD one. Its brightness is 300 nits.
@@benchmarks31 thanks for reply
@@МелашРо innolux 400 nits
@@МелашРоthere are folks that have documented upgrading the screen to even a 4k 500 nit model. Just gotta search around, reddit is a decent place to start.
Very appreciable
Sd card ready, just what i need.
i still daily a t470p
So i don't really know shit about laptop so can someone tell me is this good for basic gaming like roblox?
The T480 will easily handle lighter games like Roblox or Minecraft
@@benchmarks31 thanks
@@benchmarks31 hey do you have any idea how much fps it does on roblox?
I bought the 5 model 8gen and honestly its very good worth the pricw only 250 euros
If I buy t470 i5 7 gen or i7 7 gen will be better
7th gen only has 2 cores/4 threads. Look for T480 with 8th gen i5 which has 4 cores and 8 threads.
Anyone owning this laptop had problems with overheating? Even when runing things like Photoshop or classic WoW my would turn into a jet engine that burns on touch..
damnn finally someone test the sims 4🙏🙏
Will be usable for another 10 years. Other planned obsolescence laptop like MacBook Air M1 only last 3 years that is if a soldered SSD doesn’t die first lol
can you do to thinkpad x280 also?
Next l580 plsss
Am bying this laptop for skl and roblox
is this AI generated?
Yes it is. ElevenLabs AI
watching on an E570
AI script before GTA VI