Pitchfork Changed Their Scores
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Pitchfork just watched melon's reviews on these albums and fixed theirs to match him.
Are they even Melon's reviews or are they really just Cal's and Anthony takes credit?
watch this ratio
Anthony would never give an album as good as Discovery a 10
@@fiscalizacaoletterboxd L
Don't give him that
Pitchfork getting out of their own ass: Discovery is a 10
Pitchfork getting back into their own ass: RAM is now dropped to 6.8
Very strange, definitely some crack was involved.
Also who tf listens to Daft Punk for the lyrics?
RAM is and was so fucking good
RAM is great but I think discovery is the better album
@@MaddyBird666 Around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world around the world
Ok Anthony it wasn't necessary to lobby Pitchfork to change their MBDTF score to a 6
Remember that Kanye line
" I don't take advices from people less successful than me"
Damn Melon 😂😂😂
😐
2:10 - 2:25 Anthony explains his MBDTF review once and for all
Yes it was
MBDTF is one of the most overrated albums of all time. Shit not even that good🤷🏿♂️
I have never felt more mixed emotions than when I saw Discovery being raised to a 10 but then immediately being followed up by RAM being lowered to a 6.8
They lowered ram? Wtf
RAM is one of the best albums I have ever heard and felt an 8-10 is a reasonable score to give it. Who the hell thought a 6.8 was an adequate score for the influence and experience you get with that album.
@@aMonkeyInaManSuit Yeah, RAM is pretty much a flawless record. I wouldn't take pitchfork and their silly little ratings too serious. After all, it's just the opinion of a couple of people.
@@aMonkeyInaManSuit "RAM is one of the best albums I have ever heard" Did you just start listening to music last week? What kind of nonsense ass opinion is this?
Discovery is leagues above RAM. Doesn't make RAM a bad album
Ain’t no way they rescored RAM from an 8.8 to 6.8, Pitchfork still on crack
*RAM
They changed Interpol’s debut from
a 9.5 to a 7.0 for whatever reason.
@@layicorn fixed it my bad, last thing I saw in the review was REM
They bumped up the Discovery score from 6.4 to 10 so they had to makeup for that goodtake somehow.
@@Nerdz2 It’s like they did it out of spite. “Yeah ok, maybe we made a mistake with our first Discovery review…. but we wouldn’t want you Daft Punk fans to be too happy about it…” * bumps RAM’s score down even lower *
The TOTBL re-score is so weird, one because they had already re-scored it (it was still a 9.5), and also because this is a decade-defining album we're talking about. This was Pitchfork's Album of the Year for 2002, lest we forget.
Yeah seriously, this is a major L for all the bassists of the world.
Yeah, it’s not quite as good as Charli XCX’s “Vroom Vroom” unfortunately
@@yoosh9034 yea it isn't
@@dinglemccringleberry6258 hmu when people are talking about vroom vroom in 2035
Yeah random and unnecessary eh, like it was in their top 20 of the '00s many years after it came out so wasn't like a fleeting hype album. Still one of the best guitar records of this millennium, no need to disrespect it like that...
Giving Discovery a 6.4 in the first place can only be salvaged through Harakiri
Oh, they've given RAM a 6.8 now? Yeah, not even Harakiri can save your honor now, Pitchfork
@@P-diddykong I like RAM better than Discovery so my face literally contorted in pain as I saw that, WHAT!!!!????
@@P-diddykong Only shutting down the site and wiping all mentions of it from the internet can save them.
Discovery is great, but RAM is really lukewarm. 6.8 seems fine.
@@MiloKuroshiro Eh, opinions. Only song I don't really care for is Doin it Right. But even then I feel a two point drop is much. Maybe a one.
Even though it's a score increase, their reassessment of Vroom Vroom really annoys me bc it's SOOOOO stupendously backhanded. Pitchfork have this bizarre presumption that just because Charli, Sophie, and the PC Music camp were being quirky and experimental with their new hyperpop sound, they assumed it was actually some kind of trick and containing some kind of deep satirization of pop formulas that they got pissy at because they couldn't back up, and even with the update, they still frame it as the EP's fault that they overthought it so poorly.
like jesus tapdancing christ, it's just pop music designed with the purpose of being FUN.
Being fun doesn't need to have this crazy political post-avant-garde analysis to be valid, Pitchfork's adamant belief that everything must be and IS consciously didactic is so headass'd (that also includes their attitude on Daft Punk's RAM -- correct me if I'm misreading, but literally all their reasoning is "RAM didn't change the entire future of music, except in the things that did that we don't like no we're not gonna explain any further what that means")
Pitchfork's entire methodology and approach to art is equivalent to asking a dude how he makes friends, and he responds with "well according to my calculations..."
This was so fun to read
Good post and RIP SOPHIE I think about her a lot.
ratio
Stay mad
@@MostafaElSakari ...no? Why? What for? I'm just making a point bc I really really love and respect Vroom Vroom and dislike critics who hold and impose nonsensical standards up to it lol
Their last complaint with Random Access Memories is that it gave way to Pharrell's Happy, a completely unrelated work, other than that he was on two tracks off this album.
Yep, Pitchfork still up to their bullshit.
Ah yes, thankfully Daft Punk gave such a big platform to unknown artists like... *checks notes* Pharrell fucking Williams
Happy's not even that bad 💀
@@firstnamelastname7244it's fucking bad
I still laugh about how Pitchfork originally gave I Get Wet by Andrew W.K. a 0.6/10 and then changed it to an 8.6/10 ten years later
Take note, it wasn't the original author (the founder of pitchfork no less) of the 0.8 review doing that. That one is still accessible and still a mean spirited, fart sniffing tome of self loathing and projection.
Less than a 1. Pretentious goofs.
Pitchfork literally just gives out the score that is the most “trendy” for them to give an album that way they don’t get backlash for not liking a particular album
Truth. Just like any other music publication, they only make money by worshipping whatever "classic album" the public likes at the moment.
dont they all???
True, that's why the pop albums scores go up, and the indie albums scores go down.
100%. grimes is in the news cycle for being cringe? yeaahhh you know what i think that album of hers from a while ago is gonna need a fat rescore all of a sudden
@@ultimadum7785 which is exactly why a song like WAP wins a BET award
Them dropping Daft Punk's RAM to that is ridiculous. Same goes for Interpol.
I mean I can see turn on the bright lights not holding up quiet as well but a 7 feels too harsh, an 8 woulda made more sense to me
Same goes for Big Boi, I am shocked and disappointed anybody would say otherwise. No reason to revisit that album’s score.
@@dj_matanzaa Honestly, out of all their rescores that one is probably the least egregious to me. I wouldn't have lowered it to a 7.7 but I never would've given it the 9.2 it actually got either.
I think Kanye said it best when he said “Pitchfork doesn’t care about black people”
"To Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, New York Times, and any other white publication. Please do not comment on black music anymore."
@@DjPjX a six can really do things to a man
So ironic when Pitchfork is kissing Kanye's ass since the last 15 years
Pitchfork doesn’t care about music, just about generating shit takes for clicks.
@@DjPjX without “white publications” nobody would know half the “black music” artists…
Was surprised no re-score for Demon Days, literally one of the best and most iconic albums of the 2000s, which they gave a 6.9.
Nice
Nice
I like Demon Days and a 7 isn't that unfair a score for it imo
@Adam Beckner Maybe in your opinion.
Say what you want about Demon Days (L to all of you contrarians ngl) but there's no way The Single Collections (which is just a compilation of singles and remixes) got a 7.9/10. Just so confusing
Pitchfork should be charged with a crime for lowering the scores for Random Access Memories and Turn On the Bright Lights.
Yeah the Interpol score being lowered to a 8.5 from a 9.5 is understandable, but really Pitchfork?
I actually think the BTD score change was warranted. One of its biggest critiques when it came out was that it didn’t have lasting power and would fade like every trend does. Yet it’s spent 400 weeks (as of now) on the billboard top 200. It’s not Lana’s best record, but it’s lasting power is undeniable.
I will never forgive Pitchfork for giving The Strokes’ The New Abnormal a 5.7
That is right! It was a 2.0.
@@campoindustria9144 lmaoo ok
Eh...that record's just ok.
Yeah, for me the album is less remarkable than others of the Strokes, but it's still a 7, a score that isn't incredible but still totally acceptable
@@ShadowRM72 yeah, pitchfork scores it lower than Comedown Machine and First Impressions of Earth. makes no sense
Strongly disagree on TOTBL sounding blander as time passes. I think its minimal sound and gloomy aesthetics make it more relevant than ever.
@Immortal Science of Hauntology That's a criticism I understand. However, to me, telling Interpol to change up the aesthetic on TOTBL is like telling somon who keeps landing bullseye's that they need to mix it up and miss a few times. It's an album that has had a massive effect on me personally and no one else quite keeps that feeling going as consistently and long as Interpol does. Though I am always willing to listen to anything that can claim to.
Agreed. It honestly sounds better now than it did when it came out. Even in the midst of all the bland ripoffs that followed, it still sounds towers so much of the indie rock that came out that decade. Immortal album..
I always really loved the first half but the back half was a slog.
Her stories are boring and stuff
@@colinstevens2462 that song was literally in my head when i read this lol
That random access memories rescore is a straight up insult. It was way more accessible than their other albums and way more successful, while still having some absolutely wicked grooves.
TOTBL is easily one of my most listened to albums of all time. the disrespect,,
what does TOTBL stand for?
That one hurt
i'm sorry lol but i wanna know, people seem to like it so might aswell listen to it
@@palliperse4146 turn on the bright lights by interpol
@@yungteddytot5390 thank you
Random Access Memories going from an 8.8 to a 6.8 is a crime against humanity. So is Turn on the Bright Lights going from 9.5 to 7.0.
Its not an 88 (a little too high) but it's at least a high 70s IMHO
@@franklingoodwin bro No they're 100s
Big Boi’s other albums weren’t as great but I’ll be damned if anybody disrespects Sir Lucious Left Foot! Name a more eclectic hip hop album!
This is why I like your reviews. You give your opinion, and your reasons for your opinions. If you change your score, it's because you changed your opinion. Pitchfork is magnifying their irrelevance as a critical outlet, they are openly acknowledging that they are changing scores based on reasons having nothing to do with the content of the albums. Hey folks, guess what? You don't have to do retractions like this if you do your original review based on the content of the album, instead of scoring according to the reaction that you want to provoke from your readers.
To be fair, it’s probably for that reason why they didn’t “canonize” these scores, because it’s unavoidable that public perception is probably a key factor in these changes. Basically, listening to Discovery back in 2000 is muuuch different than listening to Discovery in 2021.
Though yeah they did RAM dirty. The fuck wow that?
This.
Yes this. Even with their helm change out.
Sure but Fantano is one guy, he's inherently going to be a lot more consistent than a rotating group of people.
Pitchfork's reviewing system is somewhat bizarre in that while the text is written by an individual, the score is an aggregate of scores given by the entire editorial staff. This has resulted in more than a few reviews where the text and the score are wildly mismatched. I'd say this article is at least partly a result of staff turnover.
And yet their score for Vespertine remains a 7.2, good job as always p4k
They are crazy
Don’t forget the 7.7 for the dreaming
@@cellfractionation What?! If anything I thought that'd be an album they'd really like
Both of them are literally Top 5 Art Pop Rym
Cool Pitchfork
@@jmckenzie962 yup They didn’t even throughly explain why it’s a 7.7 instead of a 9 or something like that. They just dismissed it as a transitional album of some sort smh
It's a good thing you never change your scores Anthony *coughs in mbdtf redux*
So elated to see Room on Fire get a bump up. What a fantastic record
To me it has more complex and sophisticated songwriting but also retains the same catchiness / nostalgia of the debut. Perfect album.
Same here. It gets overshadowed by their debut but it's definitely the better album. Same for Interpol's Antics.
@@groomedtodie I second that Antics notion
As soon as I saw the title my instant thought was "Please say Discovery's score is changed."
And what was it once RAM got a LOWER SCORE
@Quint0ni0 to be honest, I never liked how over-dramatic RAM sounds, songs like Giorgio by Moroder, Touch, Game of Love... I'm fine without ever listening to them again...
@@luccacamillo yeah, they are good, but for like 3-4 times, then they are just very bland lounge music
thanks, asshole. the monkey's paw uncurled a finger and RAM got blasted.
@@MelMelodyWerner aye I didn't have any part in that. RAM is bangin. Touch is like one of my favorite songs of all time.
Nah Born To Die definitely needed a score change. Especially since it's one of the more influential pop records of the past decade.
I think some of the re-reviews hit the nail on the head - Son of Chico Dusty, Vroom Vroom, and Discovery for example. However, downgrading RAM really surprised me. They dock it for not being as "pivotal" as Discovery, when I really don't think an homage album with "memories" in the title is aiming for being pivotal or inventive in any way. I re-listened to the album when Daft Punk broke up, and I think it really holds up - the production is flawless, the tracklist feels varied and yet coherent, and Touch and Giorgio by Moroder are some of my favorite tracks of the 10's.
The Vroom Vroom re-review is really painful to read tho lol
Ram is shit compared to everything else they did
@@Jf2jf2jf2 I really like the mix of the synths with the funky/groovy guitars in RAM. Personally I think it holds up pretty well with the rest of their discog.
@@Jf2jf2jf2 You be shitting me if you think Human After All is better than RAM.
@@Jf2jf2jf2 i like HAA more than most people but RAM surpasses Human After All in so many ways, but to each their own
They also rescored Björks "Homogenetic" to a 10 a few years ago in regards to its 20th Birthday. They originally gave it a 5.4 xDD
THEY GAVE IT A WHAT?
they gave it a 9.9 and changed it to a 10 lol
Homogenic
Not sure how they can still justify giving NIN - The Fragile and Tool - Lateralus 2/10 scores. Two of the most beloved and influential metal albums ever.
the random access memories one really hurt, the score was fine the way it was.
Imagine rating Deloused in the Comatorium a 4.9 and Frances the Mute a 2.0 and thinking that doesn't need revision
Two words: Tool Lateralus
Definitely their most offensive scores
The comment I was looking for
Lowering Random Access Memories to a 6.6 should be punishable by execution
If Pitchfork can do it then so can you... waiting on that 10 for the NAV album
Shut up about nav
@@nathanmontgomery1516 no
Bruh o almost shat out my tea
Year 20 of waiting for Pitchfork to change that Lateralus score of 1.9 to at least an 8.5.
I had to look this up to see if this was real. Absolutely disgusting.
Changing RAM and Turn on the Bright Lights scores down is beyond idiotic in my opinion
It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
Daft punk RAM was the most influential record in my teenage years. It hurts to see it disrespected like this
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 read again
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 reading skills 100
Same 😭
The production and mastering on the album is just… crystal clear perfection to my ears.
This comment makes me feel old...
RAM pales against Discovery and Alive 2007
7/10 for TOTBL is a great troll move.
Yeah, what the fuck was that
Why is it? whats the backgroud?
@@conrad9race1 Someone who doesn't get Jim Morrison listens to an album by Interpol.
@@radhinkabagaskara5595 I spat my drink out when I saw that score
@@conrad9race1 Pitchfork have given TOTBL a 9.5 twice. They also named it their AOTY in 2002.
Turn on the Bright Lights is a masterpiece. This is an outrage!!!
Their rescore of Random Access Memories is a crime against humanity
The fact that they dropped TOTBL from a 9.5 to a 7 for having ‘bad’ lyrics and sounding like a bland ripoff is almost infuriating. It’s one of the best albums to come out of the whole early 2000s post punk and garage rock revival era.
The lyrics are pretty bad though!
@@cameron9385 nah obstacle 1 has amazing lyrics. also stella was a diver has cool lyrics. i think the lyrics overall are far from bad
@@cameron9385 always got the so bad that it's good vibe from any interpol lyric
@@pretendwilliams3525 That specific song feels to me like a kid reading out really awkward, bad middle school poetry in English class (both from the vocal delivery and the lyrics). I mean "she can read, she's bad" and "I wish I could eat the salt off of your faded lips" really don't do it for me. I like the hooks lyrics though they're alright
@@HasClipz I can respect that!
We'll never forgive them for giving Lateralus a 2 and Frances the Mute like a 4. They complained about how "stuck up" Frances was- I mean... I get what your saying- while also being incredibly stuck up. Wow. Imagine my shock.
Frances got a 2
They gave Lateralus a WHAT
Bro Pitchfork just hates TMV lmao Deloused and Frances had hella bad reviews like wtf those are the best Prog albums of the last two decades
When I saw this article on Pitchfork earlier, my first thought was, "did they change Frances the Mute?" Nope. It's a 2 by the way.
Gave Tool's Lateralus a 1.6/10
My thing with these big review magazines is they'll always have this defect where, when they review a record poorly and get a lot of criticism for it, especially if that criticism lasts for years and the record becomes influential or popular to any significant extent, the magazine has no reason not to go back and "change" the review or the score or simply start putting it on best of lists and such. This is because, since they rely on the collective opinion of the writers and staff at the magazine, the one guy who didn't like it when it came out, wrote the review, and later left the magazine doesn't have any influence over what they think of the record years down the road. With a solo reviewer, the initial review is less likely to change and therefore has more lasting meaning. What I really want to know reading or watching a review is whether or not the reviewer likes it, not what the collective population thinks about it. That way I can get a feel for the reviewer's taste and understand what's likely to score well with them and what's likely to be criticized. Then when they score something well I'll already have an understanding of what makes a record good for them and, comparing against my own concept of what makes a record good, I'll have a good idea or whether or not I myself might like it. With a big magazine, where different writers have can wildly different opinions and tastes, it's much more difficult for me to know if I'll like something based on how they review it. Just my thought process on this.
This is a great point. I like Fantano, but I know there are certain areas and genres where we are just going to forever agree to disagree, and that's fine. But I have a general impression of what a good and bad score mean to Fantano. Can't say the same about Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, etc.
Just popping in to say you nailed it. Why I’m so glad we have UA-cam and other forms of social media now to be able to follow individuals whose tastes and perspectives may align close to our own or are at least, as much as a human mind can be, relatively consistent. I don’t agree with fantano on plenty of takes, but one thing that I can say is I’m always interested to hear his opinions because you actually have a concept of what makes him tick, unlike many faceless music journalists. No disrespect intended, but I like having that personal connection particularly when it comes to discussing music.
I like how 1.9 for Lateralus is such a meme now that they haven't changed the score
Pitchfork has also stated that Anthony Fantano is the meanest person for giving MBDTF a 6/10
But he is. I’ll never forgive him for not agreeing with me. That is an unforgivable sin that can never be washed away. You either agree with me, or get fucked. I’m very mature.
@@Cheddar_Wizard Get fcked? 😳
Ummm.... I think MBDTF is 5/10 sir
@@Cheddar_Wizard Exactly! 😡
@@shiningnightmare5616 You tryna get cute with me Shiny?
@@Cheddar_Wizard stop lying it’s a sin.
"Our review, which was written as a screenplay, focused more on the band's then-recent appearance on Dawson's Creek than the actual music."
That's like what I'd write if I was parodying Pitchfork apologizing for their early era.
"19 Album Scores We'd Change If We Could" What do you mean 'if you could'?! You're Pitchfork! You created the scores, so you can change them whenever you damn well please! You don't have treat this like it's an act of sacrilege. Sheesh.
lowering RAM is a huge yikes
If anything it’s creeped closer to a 10 over the years imo
Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that lateralus still holds a 1.9 on pitchfork
Yea, no. Tool sucks
@@SH-ry2xi
>Is subscribed to a bunch of rappers
@@ileutur6863 keep crying and telling yourself Fear Inoculum was good.
My favorite Pitchfork Moment is reading that review trashing how pretentious Tool fans are (which they are, don't get me wrong), then jumping over to their Radiohead reviews written at the exact same time without any irony
@@MajorShmoopy ''Radiohead is as good as dead baby'' Pitchfork
Born to Die is the 2nd longest charting female debut of all time! It's influence is still being felt today. It definitely deserved the up score. Her voice sounds amazing too! Pitchfork should also up score Blood Orange - Negro Swan and St. Vincent - Daddy's Home. Both underrated af.
no
@@braianchavez5523 yes
Meanwhile, Wikipedia will have to update all of these scores to respect the faceless dweebs at Pitchfork while refusing to respect Anthony as a legitimate reviewer
i can't believe Christgau's bullshit is recognized by Wikipedia but Fantano isn't. Christgau's reviews are fucking terrible and even though Fantano disappears up his ass sometimes, he usually backs it up, even if his reasons are shit. Christgau doesn't even do that, cause his writing is just shit
Is Anthony not recognized by wiki because he doesn't publish reviews in text form or is there some other reason for that?
@@tite93 He doesn't have an editorial staff and self-publishes his reviews, meaning that he can technically say whatever he wants without fact-checking or quality control.
Top of the morning melon
Top of the morning
Top of the morning
Top of the morning
Top of the morning to ya too
They need to review the New Abnormal by the Strokes score also
changing the RAM rating to a 6.8 is a crime
thats one of the few i agree with. its fucking boring as shit
@@vvvictoriav5958 nah
Discovery is better, but RAM’s the next up. I think 8/10 is an incredibly reasonable rating for the quality of that album.
@@vvvictoriav5958 It's not boring, at least half of the record is extremely good. But it's not a 8.8. 6.8 is very low. 7.5 would be a good score.
" Every CD the critics give it a 3 then 3 years later they go back and re grade it and call the slim shady LP the greatest
The marshall Mathers was a classic
The Eminem show was fantastic
But Encore just didn't have the calibre to match it "
A hugely underrated Em song right there
Encore has aged much worse than SSLP/MMLP/TES though
Careful what you wish for
The correct lyric is “Go back and re-rate it”.
@@teamkockroach4080 Nah I like Encore, it’s just eminem being a goofball but I’ll take that over his newer shit. As ridiculous as it is I think it’s a good album definitely underrated IMO
@@jago7467 I’d agree with you and say Encore’s goofiness paid off in some capacity. Still a mess, but it has its moments.
turn on the bright lights is one of the best rock albums of all time as far as I'm concerned
Wilco rescore was needed. That record has some of the best guitar work in the last 20 years!
It's weird to say but we have Television to thank for that.
RAM being decreased to a 6.8 hurts my feelings
I wanna do a pitchfork parody where the review itself stays the same but the score is randomly generated from 0.0 to 10.0
Vroom Vroom at least deserves a 11
Ugh was waiting for a rescore of The Mars Volta albums - clearly someone there hated their guts in the aughts, along with other very specific genres.
Lets not forget the fact that they didn't changed Tool and The Mars Volta. Also WTF with that new Interpol review
Prog-Rock fans won’t be reading Pitchfork anytime soon so Pitchfork has nothing to gain in “apologizing” for their scores.
The sheer smugness of that Mars Volta review bothers me the most
Discovery: 6.4 ---> 10
Me: **lower* *torch**
RAM: 8.8 --->6.8
Me: **RAISE* *TORCH**
Glad to see that they recognize the genius of Sky Blue Sky. I see why they wouldn’t like it at first but the album is just so unbelievably consistent
As a Tool fan, the 1.9 they gave Lateralus made me lose all respect for pitchfork
I stop listening to Pitchfork when they gave Bowser & the Giant peach a 3 out of 10
A FUCKING 1.9!!!
I stopped listening to pitchfork when they said bubsy 3D sucks.
I have no idea about that......in overrall professional critics have barely idea , i mean, they dont have enough knowledge, enough open mind, never listen them.
Pd. Lateralus is 5/5 stars......
What in the actual fuck?! I had to google that, who doesn't come out of that album having experienced how special it is? Lat is probably in my top 5 albums ever, that score is such bullshit lmfao.
I haven't ever really paid any attention to Pitchfork as a music publication. Good to know I haven't missed anything, they're literally on crack.
How dare you Pitchfork to give my Foxygen a 6.
Pitchfork should change every single score of NAV's album to a 10. For me the greatest artist of all time and it's not even close.
Yes
@@davetwo7 Yes
"6.4, lyrics too repetitive" on a Daft Punk review is the music equivalent of IGN's "7.3, too much water" on Pokémon ROSA
Frances the Mute: 2.0.
Still canon.
I think revising criticism for reasons outside the realm of just simply enjoying the music is so unbelievably pretentious. That's like reviewing the videogame Portal, and underrating it because you hate "the cake is a lie" memes. I think they're unintentionally reminding everyone of why they aren't a trustworthy outlet for honest opinions.
Portal 2 is the best game ever made hands down.
@@jakelong4271 It’s my subjective opinion that this is an objective take.
Was really hoping to see Vespertine in that article
Man I have really bad eyesight, I was like “damn they rescored Scott Walker’s Bish Bosch to a 10?” Then realized it was Discovery, which should be canon lol.
Turn on the bright lights is one of the greatest albums ever made, personally my third favorite album of all time
I wonder what your favourite is
@@goob8945 Amnesiac by Radiohead
I wonder what you’re first favorite album is 🤔
@@nathantaaron how? obviously it’s considered a classic for a reason. I use neither of those platforms btw. the toxicity is rampant.
@@nathantaaron lol what? It’s okay for your opinion to overlap with /mu/ or whoever else’s, that doesn’t mean you stole their taste that just means you both like a thing. I love TOTBL and I’ve never been on /mu/.
Fantano I'll have you know that Back From The Dead by Keith Cozart is indeed a well groomed and well sequenced mixtape
Kinda sad to not get your reaction to the Wilco score change. Sky Blue Sky is a decent record but I was surprised they re-graded it that high, while they left their middling AGIB rating alone.
For real, I'll take AGiB over YHF
AGiB score is criminal. Hard agree.
AGiB forever.
sky blue sky is fantastic. it was great at the time, has only got better.
I'd have more respect for Pitchfork if their reviews weren't written like a college freshman's hot take corner. The scores are arbitrary to me. I could wildly disagree with them and still respect the outcome IF the writing backed it up.
EDIT: OK, Rilo Kiley record did get me a bit. So uh...good work. Science Vs. Romance is amazing.
That Interpol downgrade is downright criminal, whoever wrote that article should get chronic diarrhea
Moth by Chairlift is one of my absolute favourite albums of all time and I totally agree with the re- score. Firstly, they show such an intimate understanding of the verse- chorus- verse pop song format that they could completely mess around with the structure and subvert the form (e.g., they never repeat the verse on ‘Ch-ching’) without anyone noticing. Secondly, the sound palette is fucking gorgeous: Caroline Polachek’s delicate and yet operatic singing, with its so- called ‘natural auto tune’ is the most obvious example of this, but the vintage and yet simultaneously extremely modern sounding synths on tracks like ‘Crying in Public’ are unforgettable. Also, sometimes the production is genuinely risky, like the absurd guitar tone on the intro to ‘Romeo’ (which also has one of Caroline Polachek’s most distinctive vocal lines in the chorus’), or the sampled, filtered saxophone harmonies that show up all over the record, or the really abstract production on tracks like ‘Look Up’ and ‘Ottawa to Osaka’.
I think Caroline Polachek summed up the album when she said that the pop song format should always be used as ‘a Trojan Horse’ for some new idea. Maybe the tracks sound bland to you, but maybe that’s just because the Trojan horse is so effective that you don’t notice how experimental it is underneath.
When the teacher lets you retake the test but you remembered the answers
I'm like 90% sure they pre-write their reviews, sort of a shit on the artist and try to cancel them but then write like 2 paragraphs about the music itself.
turns out nostalgia is pitchforks worst enemy
Turn on the Bright Lights is AT LEAST a 9!
That Interpol decrease hurts. I adore that album.
TOTBL should've been a 10 to start with and should still be a 10 smh
@ghost mall Yea, I see what you mean. I just got so heated from their score.
The nerve of including Interpol in their most influential artists of the past 25 years and then doing this lmao
imagine if melon started with "JOURNALISTHONY INTEGRITANO HERE" that would've been way too good
It's a shame they didn't revise their review for Aphex Twin's "Drukqs". The album is a masterpiece and so ahead of it's time.
me too.
I'm glad that many Aphex Twin fans rate this album very highly now.
Man, Random Access Memory is in every single hit song of our days. Is the most influencial record of the decade.
Honestly was hoping they acknowledge the 1.9 for Lateralus
Same. Unfortunately, they are massive contrarians, so they probably wont change their minds on their minds on their most hated reviews, just out of spite.
@@lepkember6913 theyre not contrarians they just hate nerdjock shit like Tool (I like Tool but thats what it is) Theyre way too twee and indie
@@Nerdz2 no its not. The "nerdjock" thing is based purely off their annoying fanbase, not the music or their behaviour
@@ileutur6863 if you dont think their music attracts a certain fanbase then how else would it get that way
@@lepkember6913 i like how some people in the comments are like "i got no respect for pitchfork cuz they are just trendy fucks bowing down to the masses" and some people are like "i got no respect for pitchfork cuz they are spity contrarians going against common taste to spike attention"
I would give Musicology a solid 8, way too many people were sleeping on that one and 3121, it was truly his comeback.
Finally someone said it. Disappointed Fantano didn’t talk about that one here given that he claims to be a big Prince fan. Both of those records deserve a critical reevaluation.
_”I gotta hit The Source, I need my other half a mic because that Southerplayalisticadillacmuzik was a classic…”_
The Random Access Memories slander was just uncalled for really XD
Seeing Discovery get the 10 it deserves followed by that disgusting RAM score drop was like finding $20 on the ground and then immediately dropping your wallet in the sewer 🤢
They did Interpol dirty.
Turn On The Bright Lights is an incredible album from start to finish. Just pure moody, atmospheric guitar music. It's still their best album.
Interesting that you showed their changed opinion on STP's Tiny Music because that IS one of the most underrated rock albums (from a mainstream act) of the 90s
Original review was one of the cruelest ever
They gave Discovery 6.4??? The record was banging with fresh sounds then and it still holds up now, who was writing at Pitchfork at the time like bruh
How about you change your “The Big Day” score to a 10 because it has Hot Shower. Objectively the best song ever created.
And if you don’t… watch out because I got muscles like Superman trainer and I also jump stomp-stomp on Lucifer, Satan. Tread lightly melon boy.
*Cries whilst deloused in the comatorium*
I still feel the Interpol rescore was a little harsh. I personally think TOTBL is one of the best LPs to come out of the post-punk revivalist/NY rock era. I can understand the album showing it's age, but the 9.5 to a 7.0 was brutal. A low to mid-8 would've made more sense. They chose violence with that flat 7.0.
Plus, that Random Access Memories rescore... oof.
I honestly don’t have a problem with most pitchfork scores but them giving Björk’s Vespertine a 7.2 when it should have been a nine at least still haunts me