Stephen Colbert made the fastest transition from sublime satire to vomit inducing propaganda ever. As soon as the contract cleared, he flipped the switch. It was mind blowing to watch.
There was always something slick about him that suggested he's a sociopath. He played the game until he got there and then he picked up the board and dumped the pieces, smiling.
Then last time I went through airports, there he was on a magazine cover, the types given away to those who already passed security clearance, as if some type of national hero.
Younger people may not realize how funny and powerful his political satire had been at one point. The White House Correspondents Dinner made him a hero to many antiwar leftists.
Bill Maher has always been a second(or third) rate comic and a fourth rate political analyst. He's, coincidentally, exactly as shallow(which is completely) as modern popular(celebrity) culture is.
He's not really a court jester. Real court jesters were allowed to criticise their employers, i.e., the king. They had to know their limits. It was risky being a court jester. They could get beheaded ( or worse) if they went too far. Maher is just a mainstream mildly amusing entertainer.
True, but even Lee camp and Chris hedges dont go full truth.. they stop short in a comfortable overton window. Theyre not Christopher Bollyn or James Corbett or Whitney Webb
I was listening to this when my son called. I live in France. He lives in Lebanon. What's that noise, Mom? Sorry, I was just listening to an interview by Chris Hedges with Lee Camp. My son's response--Chris Hedges is so great. The influence is far and wide, Chris.
@@OutragedPufferfishlike what? I’ve never heard carlin state facts. He was very skilled in observing everyday life and the political environment but he didn’t get into facts. Please give an example.
. "We have multiplied our possessions but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We’ve learned how to make a living but not a life. We’ve added years to life, not life to years." ❤
One of the reasons Hicks was so engaging and so threatening to power is the poignant subtlety of his critique of the spiritual bankruptcy of capitalism, how it profits by selling us the worst of ourselves and profiting handsomely from its baseness. He was genuinely in awe of our collective potential and was able to find humor in the great distance that separates us from that potential and we collectively revelled in the sad absurdity of the human condition.
I'm pretty sure all men from the beginning of time have fantasized about 15 year olds. It's sorta the ideal age for breeding. The problem is that it's always been a cause of male conflict, because it's the ideal age of breeding. You can't fault every man who was ever born for being subject to human biology. Obviously, we have tried to avoid male conflict in society by restricted age limits, but it's not wrong to still have basic biological instincts.
@@PaulSavoy-ky1ct He wasn't fantasizing about 15 year olds. He was making a joke about those that do. Try thinking next time. Hicks' humor was way over your head.
Thank you both so much for your work that tells the "rest of the story". Without people like you, the world would continue to grow darker and we'd never know until it was too late.
If they and others like Jimmy Dore and the Duran and Glenn Greenwald and the many whistleblower doctors, etc knew how the massive EMBEZZLING SCAM is done, they could help expose it - which could very quickly end the reign of lying sociopathic money ADDICTS who are totally derelict in their duty and unfit to govern. Here is the MINIMUM we need to know in order to end the reign of corrupt sociopathic money ADDICTS who have been embezzling government money for decades: Remember Henry Ford said that there would be "revolution before tomorrow morning" if the people know how the money system actually worked? Well, the corrupt sociopaths in power know that government money can be issued IN ANY AMOUNT for anything that is physically possible, and they have arranged scams for decades to EMBEZZLE that money! The major one is "privatization", where they pretend they will run something better than the government and "like a business", but this scam is designed so they can bill the government ANY AMOUNT, providing massive exec salaries and insanely high profits. Wall Street firms fall over each other to invest - so do most Congress (or Parliament) members - when these entities are put on the stock market, because they know that profits are guaranteed via fiat government money. They all know that government money is NOT OUR TAXES, and that countries that issue their own currency do NOT have an actual "national debt" that the liars love to fearmonger us about, etc. We need to know what they want kept hidden from us. The US has been taking over countries since WW2 to do this embezzling scam and has built a corruption cartel of many lapdog countries; the liars demonize any leader who does not submit, to manipulate public opinion so we go along with the coups, invasions, assassinations, etc. The US also directs the WHO, created the WEF, and monolithic entities like Blackrock, Vanguard and others got so big by participating in the embezzling globally! We need to see the BS and FIGHT the lunatic money addicts and their inhumanity. They lie us into wars & then embezzle most of the war money through "privatized" war companies, incarcerate people to enrich themselves via "privatized" prisons. "Privatized" healthcare enriches insurance companies and related companies & investors, another corruption scam where they get torrents of government money but do NOT spend it on the healthcare people need. Vax companies and the digital ID systems to subjugate us are also privatized! So are all the entities to track and control us that the liars pretend are to "help the climate": social credit, ESG, carbon tracking, digital bank currency, 15-minute cities and more. The scheme was to get TRILLIONS from many governments FOREVER while ensuring we could not rise up to stop their corruption, tyranny and inhumanity. (Pretending there is not enough energy, oil, food is how they will try to force us to get those digital IDs - they will say it is so we can get our "rations" and UBI etc to try to survive.) This electronic prison to subjugate is being finalized, so time is running short for us to expose them and stop their plans for us. They use cloaking terms like "private" prisons, "for profit" healthcare, "public-private partnerships", etc, because they know that there is public backlash against privatization; we should always push back and use the CORRECT term when they do this. Currently, public education is being privatized by calling it "school choice" and "charter schools". The lunatic money addicts in power lie, destroy and KILL for more "money fixes". They are totally UNFIT TO GOVERN and should face charges of dereliction of duty, violating the Constitution, embezzling federal money, crimes against humanity, violating the Nuremberg code, war crimes and more.
This is the first time I have ever heard Lee Camp's intellectual critique of comedy. His sarcasm has always been evident, but not so much his intellectual discernment. I applaud his moral spleen and objective brain.
Personally, having loved Lee's political takes and being an avid watcher of all his shows since RT, I was disappointed in Lee when he misrepresented Chapelle's trans jokes in all of his Netflix specials. Either he didn't even watch them, or he didn't really pay attention. VERY DISAPPOINTING.
I wanna push back a bit on the claim that John Oliver does not criticize power. It’s hard to find the full segment, but I’ll provide a link to what I could find here, to a Last Week Tonight piece covering the Israeli bombing of Gaza that killed hundreds a couple of years ago, that followed the Hamas rockets into Israel that killed eight, in response to the brutal treatment of Palestinian protestors after the Al Asqa Mosque was raided by the IDF, as well as the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homes in Sheik Jarrah. HBO allows John Oliver and his writing staff, like George Carlin before, quite a bit of journalistic and artistic freedom regarding their reporting and activism. The SLAPP suit episodes and the actual SLAPP suit that resulted against HBO are another great example. Anyway, here’s the link to part of the segment that drummed up so much controversy and backlash from so many Israel-supportive media outlets and pundits: ua-cam.com/video/yGkO7zYLRT0/v-deo.html
Yeah, I disagree too with lumping John Oliver in with the late night network hosts. His show goes after a lot of the inequalities in America and the world, and you can tell he really cares about humanity.
@sabbracadabra8367 Also a form of hacking. One of the most famous hackers of all time, Kevin Mitnick, primarily gained access through social engineering.
Lee was on Showtime's series “The Green Room with Paul Provenza” along with Roseanne and Bob Saget. I thought he might be funny. Then I saw his unfunny preaching Leftist shows and I thought he sucked. Very unfunny and I am not just critical of Leftist. Here he sounds smart, but did he make any quips? Seems like most comedians would be making a few more jokes.
Oh gosh, the second that you said "Lee Camp is joining me" a huge smile spread across my face! Lee, I have been watching your work for years on Facebook and it brings me nothing but joy to think that I am about to watch an interview between such brilliant minds. Peace and be lovely 🌹
Lee Camp will always have my respect. He did a great job on RT as skeptical as I was of that network. Sure, it makes sense for Russia to applaud critiques the American empire but they were valid and I found him refreshingly entertaining amid a sea of horrible and negligent US networks. Great dialogue, thanks for having him!
Here in New Zealand the RT (Russian Television) channel used to be available (on cable) but about a week after the Russian military invasion of Ukraine it became unavailable. I presume this was in the interests of "Freedom of Speech" and "getting both sides of the argument".
I remember when I was a kid and Lenny Bruce was active. The only thing I ever heard about Lenny Bruce was that he was a '' sick'' comic. Every time I heard a reference to him on the old black and white TV, his name was always prefaced with the word sick. I was too young to understand how propaganda Works back then, so of course I fell into it. I had to grow up to find out who the really ''sick'' people were.
1950s prosperity was largely illusionary with low wages, short life expectancy, poor medical care, cheap gas, women in the home. Little safety net or consumer protection. There was more commercial competition and fewer imports. Larger exports. Fewer Wall Street money grubbers. Better pensions at your mediocre job. Lower health insurance costs to go with your poor medical care.@@numbersix8919
I was turned on to Lenny Bruce in the early sixties by a friend of mine who was a musician and poet. He was so far ahead of his time and paid the ultimate price for speaking truth to power as a comic in a conservative culture. So much for freedom of speech in America.
This entire conversation falls under the rubric of "the manipulation of the American Mind". It is so Orwellian, the implications make me shudder and it makes me content with my advanced age.
Regardless of occupation, wealth has become the distinguishing and dividing aspect of humanity. Bill Maher has become so wedded to his own privilege that his capacity for objective discernment has been neutered. It is very typical and not surprising. Sadly, he has joined the ranks of our "deciders". I now fantasize about his future life as a homeless former-comedian pan-handling for his next lunch.
💯 correct, I quit watching him after he gave Obama a million dollars until I found his Cuban cigars and fancy drinks and speaking with celebrities, just a few, lol. Jez, Hoolywired!! I watched a few of them. Wow!!!!
"his future life as a homeless former-comedian pan-handling for his next lunch." make a good bit: "I got 'schtick' - Get your schtick here! Hey, Buddy, tell you what - I will tell you 3 jokes, YOU buy lunch. waddya say?"
Tree🐸, you are spot-on about Maher and I basically have quit watching him. JUST off and on I would. AND now with him saying on one of his first comeback shows after the writers strike that: Israel always takes The moral high ground, I have decided to boycott him. He's outta his mind. His problem with that whole issue is that his mom was a Jew and so he is a Jew but he only allows himself to be a Jew when it's convenient, otherwise he loves to say he's Irish and I'm part Irish and that man is NOT Irish in any way shape or form. HE doesn't have the humor; he doesn't have to wit; he doesn't have the perspicacity to see through things. AND definitely when it comes to the Palestinian issue, he doesn't see it as does Ireland -- the one European nation that is standing with Palestinians. Everyone knows exactly what has been going on for over a half-century in that country and it was begun by the British and it is maintained by the Americans. A huge ongoing crime against humanity, as America and Britain and the Europeans enable the ongoing genocide, I repeat-- genocide. It is NOT ethnic cleansing , bad as that is. IT'S straight up nazi-like GENOCIDE. .
Holy shoot it never ceases to amaze me just how superb and courageous Chris Hedges really is … arguably my favourite human these days. Outstanding. I’ve signed up for his podcast and subscribed, and I should and in fact will do more to financially support his work, even though I’m on a Disability pension in Vancouver British Columbia.
Careful. While Hedges has been stalwart until today, he will be the first to warn of creating heroes. Anyone can be coerced. He has warned of this many times.
Several decades ago, I was simultaneously working for two US military entities. At a point in time, two of my co-workers and I witnessed an horrific event. We discussed it, trying to get over the trauma. All three of us were explicitly warned to STFU. In my case, the life of my young son was threatened. What did I do? What is a hero?!
U mean you don't want to help buy Chris a new suit? If you make a top of the line donation, you get a basket of heritage organic parsnips, ideal for roasting, for Thanksgiving. I think you may suffer from being too solution oriented ...take the parsnips and savor the exquisite root
Recently discovered these two. Nothing but respect for both. Didn't know we had such upright and talented comedians/journalists. Disgusted with all the sell-outs including Maher.
Brilliant? Lee was on Showtime's series “The Green Room with Paul Provenza” along with Roseanne and Bob Saget. I thought he was funny. Then I saw his unfunny preaching Leftist routines and I thought he sucked. Very unfunny and I am not just critical of Left. Here he sounds smart, but did he make any quips here? Seems like most comedians would be making a few more jokes.
No one explains what is going on as Chris Hedges! It is a privilege to listen to him and he never disappoints, as years goes by. Salute for outstanding journalism and integrity! Thanks
Chris Hedges claims the CIA had nothing to do with JFK's death, so he isn't that great of a journalist and he still follows this false narrative knowing the opposite is true.
Thank you Chris Hedges for having Lee Camp on your show. YEP I absolutely LOVE Lee Camp's work. I discovered Jimmy Dore because Lee had him on his show. The censorship of RT is a brazen violation of the first amendment.
Totally agree! That was the one weak spot of the program. Dore should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Hicks, Carlin, Bruce, Sahl! Completely undeserved.
I think it was because during covid Jimmy Dore was about the only comedian that saw what was occurring and the propaganda and the censoring of everyone who expressed any opinion that was negative toward the pharmaceuticals. THAT was a very big deal because covid went on for three years and actually still is occurring. I am still being censored for anything I say about covid as a commenter. A couple days ago, I was warned that my comment was going to get me cancelled from even being able to access UA-cam and leave comments. AND then I got another comment from them saying the same thing and then I got a third comment saying the same thing. AND then the next day I got a fourth comment saying you've now been banned from leaving any comments on UA-cam and I had to click GOT IT or they wouldn't even let me get into UA-cam and I didn't GET IT. ALL I GOT was that this was fascism and this was wrong. Mind you I'm a commenter I don't have a podcast. I know I could NEVER have a podcast cuz I always say what I think. and you can't do that.
@@andianonn cool story. Does not change the fact that he is a grifter and not a comedian that should be in anyway discussed with the likes of George Carlin.
I don't even watch Saturday Nite live any longer. I always loved the show, I don't have the time any longer. They were great in the 80's and grew many stars out of it for years. Lee Camp is my favorite comedian now. Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, John Hicks !!! RIP 🙏 ❤ We have had great comedians. Philys Diller, Jack Benny, Red Skelton, Lucille Ball, The Carol Burnette Show, Red Fox, Richard Pryor, John Cleese, and so many. We now have corporate powers running everything . Keep laughing. Humor helps when done for the right reasons. It is an art. Many different forms of comedy. Poltical comedy is the most difficult when one is hitting the ball out park with the truth. Rodney Dangerfield and Joan Rivers, how I miss them!!! Thank you, Chris Hedges and Lee Camp for this discussion.
They still have strong writers and a strong roster of talented performers. The show has become something of an American institution, and is almost half a century old now.
@@Skousen77 I don't have cable, nor any television other than UA-cam and haven't watched a network for over 30 years. Can receive any information I need from shows such as this.
What Lee doesn't get about Dave Chappelle: Joking about trans people is not about joking about trans people. it's joking about the people who are canceling you for joking about trans people.
the irony of lamenting that folks don't take into account the totality of critique layered in a joke only to then summarize Chapelle's special as "anti-trans" and laden with gripes about bathrooms is rich. Chappelle was making a two-fold critique: firstly, about America's willingness to accommodate for the civil liberties of Trans and gay people, while simultaneously being unwilling to extend those liberties to Black Americans; and secondly the inherit irony of the first given that the LGBTQ equal rights movement so directly borrows from the Black American civil rights struggle. Chappelle doesn't say the following explicitly, but it's still right there: Gender is for white people. What really ticked people off about those specials is that folks were confronted with their a priori, acculturated belief: that black people aren't really people such that categories of gender, much less personhood, aren't applicable. Hence his observation that "it was easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Muhammad Ali to change his name". I'm assuming, based on the affirmative intonated noises Hedges gives during Camps' screed, that Hedges has seen Chappelle's specials. It's just another reminder that class politics so often tries to marshal Black American engagement to pretend at a continuing legacy of resisting one of the central (if not the central) rots of American Empire: white supremacy; only to then jettison Black American political interests whenever it's even slightly convenient.
there are plenty of black trans and many are sex workers. reportedly the largest victims of crime are sex workers being found out by their clients.. @@solomonmorrison6502
True. Much better than his comedian side, tbh. I never liked him on RT (even when I agreed with him). Perhaps he should consider making the same move Russell Brand made to straight up commentary and interviews. He seems much more comfortable sitting down than standing up on stage.
@@StopTechnocracy Lee is trying to appeal to his younger generation, not an older one. The use of "foul" language can have its place, however, it's limited given these times.
Maher is one of the most subordinated comedians in existence. Maher's best work was in his early years, when he rightly called us cowards for "lobbing missiles from thousands of miles away". He made a 180% turn, and all it took was maybe 20 years.
remember Bill Maher when he actually was a good person? I do. George Carlin was still alive. what the hell happened? now his entire show seems to be nothing more than "get off my lawn".
Chris, I just wanted to say I love you! I'm an Iraq War veteran. Just finished you newest book, "The Greatest Evil is War." Thank you so much for your relentless pursuit of speaking truth.
I get the feeling that Camp tries to justify jokes about Israel or global wars but still seems to be critical about jokes about men and women sharing bathrooms or being gay. They should ALL be equally subjects of comedy.
@AK-np4rp if you think D.C punched down, you missed the punchline, as did Lee. His trans jokes were never simplisticly about bathrooms...even though there PLENTY of humor to be extracted from that topic as well.
@@Sweet75JennX I wouldn't expect a transphobe like yourself to be conscious of the impact of transphobic jokes. Transsexuals were the focus of the joke and they are a vulnerable group. He was punching down.
@@AK-np4rp aaaaand here we go again..."transphobic". That accusation is losing its arresting effect because of entitled people like youself. Stay for the punchline next time. You'll learn about nuance, broaden your perspective AND be a happier person for it.
I have the greatest respect and admiration for both you and your guest Lee Canp! It’s so nice to get the truth as to what is actually going on these days, what a novel concept. The topics you covered with him in this episode were highly relevant , and the responses both of you provided, were highly informative and quite enlightening! Thank you both for opening our eyes to the dreadful realities we are all being confronted with these days. Perhaps interviews like this can awaken more of us to what is going on, and that we need to insist on positive changes and accountability of those in power. We must not accept that what is unfolding, is the only possible response to current problems. Thanks to both you and your guest for such a terrific thought provoking discussion about pressing current issues.
I think the Smothers Brothers fits in there with those who rebelled against corporate media. They had a somewhat lighter touch but slipped in their criticisms and were cancelled twice..
Thank you for astute analysis of comedy and our insipid state of the art today! I loved RT, the reporters were excellent and I miss both of you on that platform. Disgusting that we were denied this source instantly. Greatest tragedy of this watering down of comedy was Colbert who went from brilliant to horrible.
@@Kfabiano10 Laughing isn't the first impulse of those who muster the nerve to spend their life 'looking into the jaws of the tiger', and giving us (who are listening) field reports of what they're finding there. Cut Chris some respect, he's got much bigger preoccupations than looking for laughs.
I really enjoyed Redacted Tonight on RT. It gave me good laughs, but it taught me more about the neoliberal, imperialist, war-mongering propaganda and mechanism to keep oppressing the working class, working poor, and the global south all over the world. Please keep up your fantastic work. The neoliberal, imperialist, war-mongering narrative is just way too strong, but you have the people - the working class, the working poor, the global south. So please remember that the vast majority of the world is behind you, and they are waiting to be reached by you to hear the truth, as most of them are terribly sick and tired of all the lies that have been fed to them. Many thanks to Lee Camp and also Chris Hedges, from a supporter in South Korea.
Spot on, Professor Hedges! This was a great topic to cover, and Lee Camp is the perfect person to join you for it. He's one of the genuine comedians like Bill Hicks, Roseanne Barr, and George Carlin, in addition to being a true journalist. And you, Sir, in addition to being one of the true journalists, are one of the great intellectual orators among the likes of Christopher Hitchens, Carl Sagan, and Professor Cornel West. I love seeing either, and especially both, of you gentlemen, because I know you'll be covering something that the establishment media is trying to cover up, that you'll be thorough, and that I'm about to learn something that I need to know, so I pay close attention. Thanks for what you do. I've been having thoughts along the lines of this interview for a decade or more. Like Lee, I used to really enjoy people like Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, Seth Meyers, and Bill Maher. But I'm paying too much attention not to see the shift in their rhetoric and material in favor of establishment talking points. And the way they work as a collective aparatus, like the cookie-cutter news channels repeating the same mantra's, often verbatim, each night, or like every huckster's commercial who repeats a phone number three or four times to try to force it into our brains. I'm sure a lot of people see it, but it's difficult to see and understand all of what they're doing, so it was good to see you two calling it out and discussing some of the salient points about the phenomenon. Free Julian Assange!
Establishment talking points? Dude, that is all the MAGA movement is. Also, Jon Stewert is allowed his opinion, especially since he brings the evidence to back it up. He argued for the 9/11 people to get the medical treatment they deserved.... the Republicans were against it. Stewart spent so much more time arguing in favor while Republicans just waved him off. So if he has decided to focus solely on how shit the republcian have become then he is allowed. Refute his points instead of just talking shit. Aside from Roseanne (who isn't even a good comedian) the rest all railed against the Republicans almost exclusively and they all brought the evidence to back it up.
He claimed to support Bernie in 2016, but he couldn't wait to tell us how great Hillary Clinton was, even before the DNC rigged the primaries and forced Bernie out of the race. I never believed his claim to be 'for Bernie' - in 2020 he did not have to pretend, he went full neo-liberal bellend.
@@terryrobinson2324 Nonsense. Bernie realised the entire DNC and the MSM were against him, he run well into the summer and conceded only a couple of months before the DNC's corporate celebration day for Hillary Clinton. The second time around, there was Covid, the corporate shills banding together, and the real danger of a Trump second term, with fascism well established as mainstream politics. Bernie Sanders fought the status quo (political, financial and media) more than anyone else has done for many many decades.
Once bill mahr endorsed and backed hillary is when I stopped watching his show for good. Bernie Sanders betrayed us all and I no longer support him at all.
Bill Maher ain't no liberal. I would call him a limousine Libertarian. He has tons of money and lashes out at cancel culture. I used to like him, but stopped about four years ago. He has more right wing politicians on his show than liberals.
The ultimate truth here......supporting the U.S. one party state. Where both allowed parties grant the Pentagon unconditional unlimited access to the people's treasury.
Why? Do you enjoy bootlickers that always say they support "The Current Thing"? Because that's all Lee Camp is. I've been keeping track of the guy for about 4 years now and all I ever hear is ADL talking points and anti-white rhetoric.
Loved Carlans social stuff, but his "Difference between Football and Baseball" is one of my favorite comedy bits by anyone. It was actaully a great social commentary on its own.
The French have had comedy pocket books that lambast the French government and [other] "authorities???" that can be purchased at magazine and newspaper stands all over France which they've had for decades. Perhaps us Americans should take note of this and start our own political comedy pocket books and just sell them on street corners, just like they do in France.
Mr. Hedges, you are spot on here. I try to watch Colbert, and he has become a bellowing mouth piece for the Democrats and rarely question the Dems mistakes and poor decisions. Oliver has become a joke as well and punches down at Stein instead of analyzing her policies. Thanks for the show.
I would have thought the same, but then I remembered he spoke at a rally hosted by Pro-Invasion fascists and then wrote an entire ass article about how people are too mean to fascists.
This convo dovetails perfectly with Hip Hop as well. The brilliant Rap acts of the 80s and early to mid 90s were coerced and in particular cases deleted to make way for the state of Rap/Hip Hop currently. No substance whatsoever.
Good show Chris! Surprised Lee didn't mention Tim Dillon. The late Michael Brooks died very young in 2020 but his "Right-Wing Mandela" impression had me screaming tears of laughter.
I’m not too familiar with Dillon other than a few skits. What’s your critique? And cheers to the late Michael Brooks - what a legitimate bonafide legend. Politically astute, insightful, intelligent, eloquent, witty, and funny. He was exactly what the left needed, and gone for too soon.
@@Bucketheadhead Also Michael Parenti's lectures and books. His university lectures, the wit and sarcasm, just scorch the ƒ#ç£ out of capitalism. Tim Dillon, difficult call. The most transgressive and accurate comedian now. He might be some form of libertarian, but he's so critical of power and anything that threatens the individual, it's hard to know.
@@numbersix8919 Where I’m from libertarian used to mean anarchist - the libertarian wing of the socialist movement. If he’s that I’d be impressed, but I’m guessing you mean what libertarian is now commonly held to mean. He’s certainly pretty funny, and at least he supports healthcare for all. I’ll check out Parenti, thanks for the recommendation.
Bill Hicks is an all time great! He was sneaking out his 22:06 bedroom window doing stand up in Houston clubs before he was old enough to drink. His Doublemint “ad” alone makes him An All Star. RIP Bill. You’re still loved, always missed.
As Hedges says, “in a totalitarian society you can make jokes of the vulnerable, or the demonized-but not of power”. In other words, you can punch down but not up. And in recent decades, “comedy” that punches down-in the name of “edginess” or “political incorrectness”-has been all too common.
Lee was super funny when he came to Chicago a few years back, and very cool to me when we had a few beers after the show. Also? His gf, Eleanor, now his wife I guess, was so sweet! It sucks that he"s been blocked by the Left, who is now the Right
Stephen Colbert made the fastest transition from sublime satire to vomit inducing propaganda ever. As soon as the contract cleared, he flipped the switch. It was mind blowing to watch.
There was always something slick about him that suggested he's a sociopath. He played the game until he got there and then he picked up the board and dumped the pieces, smiling.
I haven't watched late night talk shows for years now.
Then last time I went through airports, there he was on a magazine cover, the types given away to those who already passed security clearance, as if some type of national hero.
He has good writers, but he is very pro mainstream
Younger people may not realize how funny and powerful his political satire had been at one point. The White House Correspondents Dinner made him a hero to many antiwar leftists.
Calling Bill Maher a comedian is an insult to funny comedians.
He thinks he's funny. I know because he laughs after every joke he tells.
Bill has great monologues, especially the New Rules segment at the end but his debate format is awful and he's very misinformed.
Bill Maher has always been a second(or third) rate comic and a fourth rate political analyst. He's, coincidentally, exactly as shallow(which is completely) as modern popular(celebrity) culture is.
@@gugy68 those are monologues?! I always thought they were tantrums coming from an old racist curmudgeon
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Lol, yep!!! But who am I to judge?
A perfect name for Maher, court jester for the self righteous & ignorant.
He's not really a court jester. Real court jesters were allowed to criticise their employers, i.e., the king. They had to know their limits. It was risky being a court jester. They could get beheaded ( or worse) if they went too far.
Maher is just a mainstream mildly amusing entertainer.
He gets worse and worser. Nauseating 😂
True, but even Lee camp and Chris hedges dont go full truth.. they stop short in a comfortable overton window. Theyre not Christopher Bollyn or James Corbett or Whitney Webb
I was listening to this when my son called. I live in France. He lives in Lebanon. What's that noise, Mom? Sorry, I was just listening to an interview by Chris Hedges with Lee Camp. My son's response--Chris Hedges is so great. The influence is far and wide, Chris.
wow I don't think I could face life if a walking dead communist like Hedges was my link to truth ......
Yes!
I've followed Lee Camp for years, I never thought he was a great comedian, more a outstanding social commentator. Luv Ya Chris + Lee
Lee really is actually a great comedian.
And Carrot Top is Lenny Bruce. @@Heirpusher
@@jbholmes99 and Jimmy Dore ain’t no Carrot Top. 😂 He’s not at the top of anything comedically. 😂😂
How America misses George Carlin. Possibly the seminal comic for political satire and commentary.
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Dont forget the late Bill Hicks
He said many things that are factually incorrect and contradicted himself on many points. I don't take him seriously.
@@OutragedPufferfishlike what? I’ve never heard carlin state facts. He was very skilled in observing everyday life and the political environment but he didn’t get into facts. Please give an example.
. "We have multiplied our possessions but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We’ve learned how to make a living but not a life. We’ve added years to life, not life to years." ❤
Thank you Chris Hedges for having Lee Camp on your show.
Chris Hedges is unironically Mr. Slugworth, and Lee Camp is merely Putin's version of Bill Maher. Wake up, Qids.
Well, Lee is out of a job since he lost that sweet RT Putin money.
I will try to find his work elsewhere. Thank you for introducing him.
@@satevo462and what has Lee said that is false ?
@@satevo462 No, he works over at Alan Macleod's Mint Press now. Though he & Chris did work for RT at the same time a while back.
One of the reasons Hicks was so engaging and so threatening to power is the poignant subtlety of his critique of the spiritual bankruptcy of capitalism, how it profits by selling us the worst of ourselves and profiting handsomely from its baseness. He was genuinely in awe of our collective potential and was able to find humor in the great distance that separates us from that potential and we collectively revelled in the sad absurdity of the human condition.
The creep who fantasized about 15 year olds?
And they eventually did show his Letterman eoisode; pretty tame.
If Bill Hicks were alive today, would he be Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Dore?
You're a good writer my friend.
I'm pretty sure all men from the beginning of time have fantasized about 15 year olds. It's sorta the ideal age for breeding. The problem is that it's always been a cause of male conflict, because it's the ideal age of breeding. You can't fault every man who was ever born for being subject to human biology. Obviously, we have tried to avoid male conflict in society by restricted age limits, but it's not wrong to still have basic biological instincts.
@@PaulSavoy-ky1ct He wasn't fantasizing about 15 year olds. He was making a joke about those that do.
Try thinking next time. Hicks' humor was way over your head.
Thank you both so much for your work that tells the "rest of the story". Without people like you, the world would continue to grow darker and we'd never know until it was too late.
God Bless You Live Long Your voice of so many people World's need more journelist like you Chris 🙏🙏❤
Chris and Lee are some of the few out there shining the light to inform the public about the grim realities of empire.
If they and others like Jimmy Dore and the Duran and Glenn Greenwald and the many whistleblower doctors, etc knew how the massive EMBEZZLING SCAM is done, they could help expose it - which could very quickly end the reign of lying sociopathic money ADDICTS who are totally derelict in their duty and unfit to govern.
Here is the MINIMUM we need to know in order to end the reign of corrupt sociopathic money ADDICTS who have been embezzling government money for decades:
Remember Henry Ford said that there would be "revolution before tomorrow morning" if the people know how the money system actually worked?
Well, the corrupt sociopaths in power know that government money can be issued IN ANY AMOUNT for anything that is physically possible, and they have arranged scams for decades to EMBEZZLE that money!
The major one is "privatization", where they pretend they will run something better than the government and "like a business", but this scam is designed so they can bill the government ANY AMOUNT, providing massive exec salaries and insanely high profits. Wall Street firms fall over each other to invest - so do most Congress (or Parliament) members - when these entities are put on the stock market, because they know that profits are guaranteed via fiat government money.
They all know that government money is NOT OUR TAXES, and that countries that issue their own currency do NOT have an actual "national debt" that the liars love to fearmonger us about, etc. We need to know what they want kept hidden from us.
The US has been taking over countries since WW2 to do this embezzling scam and has built a corruption cartel of many lapdog countries; the liars demonize any leader who does not submit, to manipulate public opinion so we go along with the coups, invasions, assassinations, etc. The US also directs the WHO, created the WEF, and monolithic entities like Blackrock, Vanguard and others got so big by participating in the embezzling globally! We need to see the BS and FIGHT the lunatic money addicts and their inhumanity.
They lie us into wars & then embezzle most of the war money through "privatized" war companies, incarcerate people to enrich themselves via "privatized" prisons. "Privatized" healthcare enriches insurance companies and related companies & investors, another corruption scam where they get torrents of government money but do NOT spend it on the healthcare people need.
Vax companies and the digital ID systems to subjugate us are also privatized! So are all the entities to track and control us that the liars pretend are to "help the climate": social credit, ESG, carbon tracking, digital bank currency, 15-minute cities and more. The scheme was to get TRILLIONS from many governments FOREVER while ensuring we could not rise up to stop their corruption, tyranny and inhumanity. (Pretending there is not enough energy, oil, food is how they will try to force us to get those digital IDs - they will say it is so we can get our "rations" and UBI etc to try to survive.) This electronic prison to subjugate is being finalized, so time is running short for us to expose them and stop their plans for us.
They use cloaking terms like "private" prisons, "for profit" healthcare, "public-private partnerships", etc, because they know that there is public backlash against privatization; we should always push back and use the CORRECT term when they do this. Currently, public education is being privatized by calling it "school choice" and "charter schools".
The lunatic money addicts in power lie, destroy and KILL for more "money fixes". They are totally UNFIT TO GOVERN and should face charges of dereliction of duty, violating the Constitution, embezzling federal money, crimes against humanity, violating the Nuremberg code, war crimes and more.
This is the first time I have ever heard Lee Camp's intellectual critique of comedy. His sarcasm has always been evident, but not so much his intellectual discernment. I applaud his moral spleen and objective brain.
The world needs more moral spleens and objective brains.
lol
The world needs more brilliance like Lee Camp and Chris Hedges❤❤!
Personally, having loved Lee's political takes and being an avid watcher of all his shows since RT, I was disappointed in Lee when he misrepresented Chapelle's trans jokes in all of his Netflix specials. Either he didn't even watch them, or he didn't really pay attention. VERY DISAPPOINTING.
@@deep-pond He also STILL thinks a jab by corrupt big pharma was a good thing.
This is extremely well explained and broken down detail to detail. Excellent analyses by Chris Hedges. Bravo.
Lee Camp is needed today on main tv.
If he says anything remotely approaching the TRUTH, he won't be allowed anywhere near mainstream TV.
Thank you, Chris. Your speaking out with simple honesty about taboo topics in America, cutting to the quick, is inspiring to me. 🙏
Thanks for having Lee on the show
Such a pity Lee's shouting, gibbering delivery makes his excellent content all but unwatchable.
I wanna push back a bit on the claim that John Oliver does not criticize power. It’s hard to find the full segment, but I’ll provide a link to what I could find here, to a Last Week Tonight piece covering the Israeli bombing of Gaza that killed hundreds a couple of years ago, that followed the Hamas rockets into Israel that killed eight, in response to the brutal treatment of Palestinian protestors after the Al Asqa Mosque was raided by the IDF, as well as the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homes in Sheik Jarrah. HBO allows John Oliver and his writing staff, like George Carlin before, quite a bit of journalistic and artistic freedom regarding their reporting and activism. The SLAPP suit episodes and the actual SLAPP suit that resulted against HBO are another great example. Anyway, here’s the link to part of the segment that drummed up so much controversy and backlash from so many Israel-supportive media outlets and pundits:
ua-cam.com/video/yGkO7zYLRT0/v-deo.html
Yeah, I disagree too with lumping John Oliver in with the late night network hosts. His show goes after a lot of the inequalities in America and the world, and you can tell he really cares about humanity.
More people should be exposing social engineering like this. Good video.
That is the term, too. Scary stuff.
@sabbracadabra8367 Also a form of hacking. One of the most famous hackers of all time, Kevin Mitnick, primarily gained access through social engineering.
Lee was on Showtime's series “The Green Room with Paul Provenza” along with Roseanne and Bob Saget. I thought he might be funny. Then I saw his unfunny preaching Leftist shows and I thought he sucked. Very unfunny and I am not just critical of Leftist. Here he sounds smart, but did he make any quips? Seems like most comedians would be making a few more jokes.
unfunny comedians are part of social engineering and mostly they target white audience.
Thank you Chris for everything you do. Words do not even to describe how grateful I am to you. ❤🧡💜
Lickspittal sycophantic comments
Oh gosh, the second that you said "Lee Camp is joining me" a huge smile spread across my face! Lee, I have been watching your work for years on Facebook and it brings me nothing but joy to think that I am about to watch an interview between such brilliant minds. Peace and be lovely 🌹
Lee Camp will always have my respect. He did a great job on RT as skeptical as I was of that network. Sure, it makes sense for Russia to applaud critiques the American empire but they were valid and I found him refreshingly entertaining amid a sea of horrible and negligent US networks. Great dialogue, thanks for having him!
RT also had journalist Rick Sanchez who was shunned by American media for being too critical.
Here in New Zealand the RT (Russian Television) channel used to be available (on cable) but about a week after the Russian military invasion of Ukraine it became unavailable. I presume this was in the interests of "Freedom of Speech" and "getting both sides of the argument".
RT is propaganda of the worst order! Sick Russian spin on their own ridiculous reasoning.
I will stop watching this video now. Thanks for the tip. Anyone who appears on RT is just as bad as what he is saying about any of these comics.
@@FlanaFugue go back to brunch lol nice. At least you came out. Big day. Not often does someone so clearly retreat into ignorance. What a spotting!
I remember when I was a kid and Lenny Bruce was active. The only thing I ever heard about Lenny Bruce was that he was a '' sick'' comic. Every time I heard a reference to him on the old black and white TV, his name was always prefaced with the word sick. I was too young to understand how propaganda Works back then, so of course I fell into it. I had to grow up to find out who the really ''sick'' people were.
People are upset because they don't have the mediocrity of the 1950s American Dream.
Tom Lehrer, Mort Sahl, Dick Gregory, followed Lenny Bruce.
@@rogersmith7396 I'm only upset non-white Americans didn't have a chance at it. What's wrong with a little economic security?
1950s prosperity was largely illusionary with low wages, short life expectancy, poor medical care, cheap gas, women in the home. Little safety net or consumer protection. There was more commercial competition and fewer imports. Larger exports. Fewer Wall Street money grubbers. Better pensions at your mediocre job. Lower health insurance costs to go with your poor medical care.@@numbersix8919
I was turned on to Lenny Bruce in the early sixties by a friend of mine who was a musician and poet. He was so far ahead of his time and paid the ultimate price for speaking truth to power as a comic in a conservative culture. So much for freedom of speech in America.
Thank you Chris Hedges - for all your work and for this introduction to David Lee. I’m glad to learn about him.
Two of my favorite people ❤
This entire conversation falls under the rubric of "the manipulation of the American Mind". It is so Orwellian, the implications make me shudder and it makes me content with my advanced age.
I'm still not old enough to not care.
If youre indeed of advanced age then you know that Chomsky was addressing their topics decades ago.Manufacturing consent is on top of the list.
There is a reason they called it the Boob Tube.
How old are you?
Same here
Regardless of occupation, wealth has become the distinguishing and dividing aspect of humanity. Bill Maher has become so wedded to his own privilege that his capacity for objective discernment has been neutered. It is very typical and not surprising. Sadly, he has joined the ranks of our "deciders". I now fantasize about his future life as a homeless former-comedian pan-handling for his next lunch.
💯 correct, I quit watching him after he gave Obama a million dollars until I found his Cuban cigars and fancy drinks and speaking with celebrities, just a few, lol. Jez, Hoolywired!!
I watched a few of them. Wow!!!!
"his future life as a homeless former-comedian pan-handling for his next lunch." make a good bit: "I got 'schtick' - Get your schtick here! Hey, Buddy, tell you what - I will tell you 3 jokes, YOU buy lunch. waddya say?"
Tree🐸, you are spot-on about Maher and I basically have quit watching him. JUST off and on I would. AND now with him saying on one of his first comeback shows after the writers strike that: Israel always takes The moral high ground, I have decided to boycott him. He's outta his mind. His problem with that whole issue is that his mom was a Jew and so he is a Jew but he only allows himself to be a Jew when it's convenient, otherwise he loves to say he's Irish and I'm part Irish and that man is NOT Irish in any way shape or form. HE doesn't have the humor; he doesn't have to wit; he doesn't have the perspicacity to see through things. AND definitely when it comes to the Palestinian issue, he doesn't see it as does Ireland -- the one European nation that is standing with Palestinians. Everyone knows exactly what has been going on for over a half-century in that country and it was begun by the British and it is maintained by the Americans. A huge ongoing crime against humanity, as America and Britain and the Europeans enable the ongoing genocide, I repeat-- genocide. It is NOT ethnic cleansing , bad as that is. IT'S straight up nazi-like GENOCIDE. .
Holy shoot it never ceases to amaze me just how superb and courageous Chris Hedges really is … arguably my favourite human these days. Outstanding. I’ve signed up for his podcast and subscribed, and I should and in fact will do more to financially support his work, even though I’m on a Disability pension in Vancouver British Columbia.
Careful. While Hedges has been stalwart until today, he will be the first to warn
of creating heroes. Anyone can be coerced. He has warned of this many times.
Several decades ago, I was simultaneously working for two US military
entities. At a point in time, two of my co-workers and I witnessed an horrific event.
We discussed it, trying to get over the trauma.
All three of us were explicitly warned to STFU.
In my case, the life of my young son was threatened.
What did I do?
What is a hero?!
That's how he makes a living mate. Still waiting for viable solutions from him.
U mean you don't want to help buy Chris a new suit? If you make a top of the line donation, you get a basket of heritage organic parsnips, ideal for roasting, for Thanksgiving.
I think you may suffer from being too solution oriented ...take the parsnips and savor the exquisite root
@@bubstacrini8851😢
Are you being sarcastic?
Recently discovered these two. Nothing but respect for both. Didn't know we had such upright and talented comedians/journalists. Disgusted with all the sell-outs including Maher.
I'm a simple man. I see Lee Camp invited on the show, I hit the like button.
Great interview!
thank you Chris, Real News Network & Lee....
WE LOVE💕💕💕💕💕YOU CHRIS,
WE LOVE YOU LEE💓💓💓💓
REMEMBER WE ALL RISE TOGETHER !!!!!!!!
‘How do we know they had WMD? Because we have the receipts.’
That’s clever 😅
They are still looking for the receipts 😂😂😂😂
Yea but they didn't have WMD. We made up the receipts.
“Power only laughs at its own jokes” 2:32
lee is a champion of the people and mr hedges is a god level champion
Chris Hedges and Lee Camp are the metaphorical "bodies in the ditch" left behind after a fascist incursion. It is so ominously sad and terrifying.
Hilarious comment, totally misses the irony
@@freethink9510 wut?
@@gracelynne3918 wut?
Holy ominous 😮
I listened to this on Chris Hedges' Substack yesterday. Great interview.
I will about Substack now
I subscribe to that, too.
Chris Hedges is one of the very best, and may be the best.
I really enjoy Lee Camp's videos on YT these days. He digs up interesting articles and always provides intelligent commentary.
"Digital book burning" - well said
Excellent! I've been waiting for Chris to interview Lee Camp. Very insightful.
Now he should interview Chappelle, so he can clear up Lee's misrepresentation of his trans jokes.
The world needs more brilliance like Chris hedges and Lee Camp❤❤!
Brilliant? Lee was on Showtime's series “The Green Room with Paul Provenza” along with Roseanne and Bob Saget. I thought he was funny. Then I saw his unfunny preaching Leftist routines and I thought he sucked. Very unfunny and I am not just critical of Left. Here he sounds smart, but did he make any quips here? Seems like most comedians would be making a few more jokes.
No one explains what is going on as Chris Hedges! It is a privilege to listen to him and he never disappoints, as years goes by. Salute for outstanding journalism and integrity! Thanks
Chris Hedges claims the CIA had nothing to do with JFK's death, so he isn't that great of a journalist and he still follows this false narrative knowing the opposite is true.
"I was never censored." Was RT censored within Russia? If you had criticized the Russian government would you have been censored?
Thank you Chris Hedges for having Lee Camp on your show. YEP I absolutely LOVE Lee Camp's work. I discovered Jimmy Dore because Lee had him on his show. The censorship of RT is a brazen violation of the first amendment.
Jimmy Dore is no leftist, and neither are these fellow grifters.
@@hydroponichomesteader6852 tell us more about your lack of nuance, gross gullibility and raging conservatism. 🙄
Now that you've discovered Jimmy Dore, is time to see through him and move past him
@@hydroponichomesteader6852 every right-wing accusation is actually a confession. The "cult" comment is particularly telling.
Trolling.
Jimmy Dore being mentioned in the same context as Bruce and Carlin 🤣 wtf?!?
Totally agree! That was the one weak spot of the program. Dore should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Hicks, Carlin, Bruce, Sahl! Completely undeserved.
I think it was because during covid Jimmy Dore was about the only comedian that saw what was occurring and the propaganda and the censoring of everyone who expressed any opinion that was negative toward the pharmaceuticals. THAT was a very big deal because covid went on for three years and actually still is occurring.
I am still being censored for anything I say about covid as a commenter. A couple days ago, I was warned that my comment was going to get me cancelled from even being able to access UA-cam and leave comments. AND then I got another comment from them saying the same thing and then I got a third comment saying the same thing. AND then the next day I got a fourth comment saying you've now been banned from leaving any comments on UA-cam and I had to click GOT IT or they wouldn't even let me get into UA-cam and I didn't GET IT. ALL I GOT was that this was fascism and this was wrong. Mind you I'm a commenter I don't have a podcast. I know I could NEVER have a podcast cuz I always say what I think. and you can't do that.
Agreed. Immediately made me question the credibility and narrative of this video and not just because Dore isn’t funny.
Love jimmy, lots of others do too
@@andianonn cool story. Does not change the fact that he is a grifter and not a comedian that should be in anyway discussed with the likes of George Carlin.
I don't even watch Saturday Nite live any longer. I always loved the show, I don't have the time any longer. They were great in the 80's and grew many stars out of it for years.
Lee Camp is my favorite comedian now.
Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, John Hicks !!! RIP 🙏 ❤
We have had great comedians. Philys Diller, Jack Benny, Red Skelton, Lucille Ball, The Carol Burnette Show, Red Fox, Richard Pryor, John Cleese, and so many. We now have corporate powers running everything
.
Keep laughing. Humor helps when done for the right reasons. It is an art. Many different forms of comedy. Poltical comedy is the most difficult when one is hitting the ball out park with the truth.
Rodney Dangerfield and Joan Rivers, how I miss them!!!
Thank you, Chris Hedges and Lee Camp for this discussion.
I have quit seeing "programs" from networks.
They still have strong writers and a strong roster of talented performers. The show has become something of an American institution, and is almost half a century old now.
@@Skousen77 I don't have cable, nor any television other than UA-cam and haven't watched a network for over 30 years. Can receive any information I need from shows such as this.
Thanks for trying to make America and the world better yah two.
What Lee doesn't get about Dave Chappelle: Joking about trans people is not about joking about trans people. it's joking about the people who are canceling you for joking about trans people.
woke logic
lol
But for four specials? I think Lee made a good point.
Sounds like it hit a nerve for Lee. No judgement here.
the irony of lamenting that folks don't take into account the totality of critique layered in a joke only to then summarize Chapelle's special as "anti-trans" and laden with gripes about bathrooms is rich.
Chappelle was making a two-fold critique: firstly, about America's willingness to accommodate for the civil liberties of Trans and gay people, while simultaneously being unwilling to extend those liberties to Black Americans; and secondly the inherit irony of the first given that the LGBTQ equal rights movement so directly borrows from the Black American civil rights struggle.
Chappelle doesn't say the following explicitly, but it's still right there: Gender is for white people.
What really ticked people off about those specials is that folks were confronted with their a priori, acculturated belief: that black people aren't really people such that categories of gender, much less personhood, aren't applicable. Hence his observation that "it was easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Muhammad Ali to change his name".
I'm assuming, based on the affirmative intonated noises Hedges gives during Camps' screed, that Hedges has seen Chappelle's specials. It's just another reminder that class politics so often tries to marshal Black American engagement to pretend at a continuing legacy of resisting one of the central (if not the central) rots of American Empire: white supremacy; only to then jettison Black American political interests whenever it's even slightly convenient.
there are plenty of black trans and many are sex workers. reportedly the largest victims of crime are sex workers being found out by their clients.. @@solomonmorrison6502
"Smug, Self Righteousness" Nailed it!
A side of Lee Camp we never knew. Thanks to Lee, Chris and TRNN.
True. Much better than his comedian side, tbh. I never liked him on RT (even when I agreed with him). Perhaps he should consider making the same move Russell Brand made to straight up commentary and interviews. He seems much more comfortable sitting down than standing up on stage.
@@StopTechnocracy Lee is trying to appeal to his younger generation, not an older one. The use of "foul" language can have its place, however, it's limited given these times.
Yeah, I loved it.
WE'VE KNOWN.
Great!@@maureenobrien4807
Bill mahar turned so bad
. It reminded me of the classic johm carpenter film. They Live
Maher is one of the most subordinated comedians in existence. Maher's best work was in his early years, when he rightly called us cowards for "lobbing missiles from thousands of miles away". He made a 180% turn, and all it took was maybe 20 years.
Bill Mahr has always been Republican Lite to me...
He reminds me of Dennis miller when this happened to the right comedians in the 90s
That's what it's like for me.
lol@@lobotomizedamericans
God bless you mr. Hedges, always truthful
Thank you guys so much….. you are loved 🥰
What a great interview. So important. Love you guys and your work.
Thank you Chris for everything!. Your show shows the real america not the one they want as to see!.
lol
This was a baller discussion. I could have listened for hours.
remember Bill Maher when he actually was a good person? I do. George Carlin was still alive.
what the hell happened? now his entire show seems to be nothing more than "get off my lawn".
It's a big club, and you're not in it! George Carlin
Chris, I just wanted to say I love you! I'm an Iraq War veteran. Just finished you newest book, "The Greatest Evil is War." Thank you so much for your relentless pursuit of speaking truth.
Thank you Lee
I get the feeling that Camp tries to justify jokes about Israel or global wars but still seems to be critical about jokes about men and women sharing bathrooms or being gay. They should ALL be equally subjects of comedy.
No. The difference is one punches up, yet the other punches down.
@AK-np4rp if you think D.C punched down, you missed the punchline, as did Lee. His trans jokes were never simplisticly about bathrooms...even though there PLENTY of humor to be extracted from that topic as well.
@@Sweet75JennX I wouldn't expect a transphobe like yourself to be conscious of the impact of transphobic jokes. Transsexuals were the focus of the joke and they are a vulnerable group. He was punching down.
@@AK-np4rp aaaaand here we go again..."transphobic". That accusation is losing its arresting effect because of entitled people like youself. Stay for the punchline next time. You'll learn about nuance, broaden your perspective AND be a happier person for it.
I have the greatest respect and admiration for both
you and your guest Lee Canp! It’s so nice to get the
truth as to what is actually going on these days,
what a novel concept.
The topics you covered with him in this episode
were highly relevant , and the responses both of you provided, were highly informative and quite
enlightening! Thank you both for opening our
eyes to the dreadful realities we are all being
confronted with these days. Perhaps interviews
like this can awaken more of us to what is going
on, and that we need to insist on positive changes
and accountability of those in power. We must not
accept that what is unfolding, is the only
possible response to current problems.
Thanks to both you and your guest for such
a terrific thought provoking discussion about
pressing current issues.
While I agree with you, this comment sounds like chat gpt
I think the Smothers Brothers fits in there with those who rebelled against corporate media. They had a somewhat lighter touch but slipped in their criticisms and were cancelled twice..
Bravo Chris.... well said!!
Same phenomenon as happens to politicians going to DC.
Thank you for astute analysis of comedy and our insipid state of the art today! I loved RT, the reporters were excellent and I miss both of you on that platform. Disgusting that we were denied this source instantly. Greatest tragedy of this watering down of comedy was Colbert who went from brilliant to horrible.
Chris Hedges critiquing comedy is ironic given I've never seen him demonstrate even the slightest sense of humor.
@@Kfabiano10 It’s rare to get even a smile!
@@Kfabiano10 Laughing isn't the first impulse of those who muster the nerve to spend their life 'looking into the jaws of the tiger', and giving us (who are listening) field reports of what they're finding there.
Cut Chris some respect, he's got much bigger preoccupations than looking for laughs.
It's the 1st time I see Lee Camp after his show got cancelled on RT in the name of " democracy." It's great to see Him.
You are obviously on UA-cam. So is he.
Absolutely Nailed. Thank you.
thank you Chris and Lee ☮
michelle wolf blew the white house correspondents dinner away and they couldn't handle her ❤ ✊🏾
"You say you hate him, but I think you love him" To the media about Trump. No one in that room was ready to hear that.
institutions ... whole lotta misogyny out there still
Just like the court jesters in the beginning. Ty for shedding light on this
I really enjoyed Redacted Tonight on RT. It gave me good laughs, but it taught me more about the neoliberal, imperialist, war-mongering propaganda and mechanism to keep oppressing the working class, working poor, and the global south all over the world.
Please keep up your fantastic work. The neoliberal, imperialist, war-mongering narrative is just way too strong, but you have the people - the working class, the working poor, the global south. So please remember that the vast majority of the world is behind you, and they are waiting to be reached by you to hear the truth, as most of them are terribly sick and tired of all the lies that have been fed to them.
Many thanks to Lee Camp and also Chris Hedges, from a supporter in South Korea.
South Korea and Japan should join the ASEAN asap for self protection rather being U.S puppet.
Excellent work guys. I love the level of knowledge growth I have seen in you both over the last decade.
I used to love Bill Maher in the late nineties and early aughts, I still watch occasionally, but it's hard not to cringe!
You are so brave I just can't stomach him 🥺.
You have evolved...Maher is incapable of this.
Spot on, Professor Hedges! This was a great topic to cover, and Lee Camp is the perfect person to join you for it. He's one of the genuine comedians like Bill Hicks, Roseanne Barr, and George Carlin, in addition to being a true journalist. And you, Sir, in addition to being one of the true journalists, are one of the great intellectual orators among the likes of Christopher Hitchens, Carl Sagan, and Professor Cornel West. I love seeing either, and especially both, of you gentlemen, because I know you'll be covering something that the establishment media is trying to cover up, that you'll be thorough, and that I'm about to learn something that I need to know, so I pay close attention. Thanks for what you do.
I've been having thoughts along the lines of this interview for a decade or more. Like Lee, I used to really enjoy people like Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, Seth Meyers, and Bill Maher. But I'm paying too much attention not to see the shift in their rhetoric and material in favor of establishment talking points. And the way they work as a collective aparatus, like the cookie-cutter news channels repeating the same mantra's, often verbatim, each night, or like every huckster's commercial who repeats a phone number three or four times to try to force it into our brains. I'm sure a lot of people see it, but it's difficult to see and understand all of what they're doing, so it was good to see you two calling it out and discussing some of the salient points about the phenomenon.
Free Julian Assange!
Establishment talking points? Dude, that is all the MAGA movement is. Also, Jon Stewert is allowed his opinion, especially since he brings the evidence to back it up. He argued for the 9/11 people to get the medical treatment they deserved.... the Republicans were against it. Stewart spent so much more time arguing in favor while Republicans just waved him off. So if he has decided to focus solely on how shit the republcian have become then he is allowed. Refute his points instead of just talking shit. Aside from Roseanne (who isn't even a good comedian) the rest all railed against the Republicans almost exclusively and they all brought the evidence to back it up.
Jimmy Dore
Speaking truth to power is no laughing matter.
Funny but true. Also not funny and not true.
That's a poor take. George Carlin would strongly disagree with you
16:44
Well you gotta be brave....if you throw in a little crazy, they might leave you alone.
Bill Maher had a chance when he supported Bernie and his policies in 2016, but he gave up after that and just cashed in.
He claimed to support Bernie in 2016, but he couldn't wait to tell us how great Hillary Clinton was, even before the DNC rigged the primaries and forced Bernie out of the race. I never believed his claim to be 'for Bernie' - in 2020 he did not have to pretend, he went full neo-liberal bellend.
Well Bernie cashed in himself..I guess the establishment met his price to be a sheep dog.
Seems to me that he chose his master a long time before that. In a way, he became religious after all.
@@terryrobinson2324 Nonsense. Bernie realised the entire DNC and the MSM were against him, he run well into the summer and conceded only a couple of months before the DNC's corporate celebration day for Hillary Clinton. The second time around, there was Covid, the corporate shills banding together, and the real danger of a Trump second term, with fascism well established as mainstream politics. Bernie Sanders fought the status quo (political, financial and media) more than anyone else has done for many many decades.
Once bill mahr endorsed and backed hillary is when I stopped watching his show for good. Bernie Sanders betrayed us all and I no longer support him at all.
Bill Hicks was a legend.
Bill Maher ain't no liberal. I would call him a limousine Libertarian. He has tons of money and lashes out at cancel culture. I used to like him, but stopped about four years ago. He has more right wing politicians on his show than liberals.
Maher is a cranky baby boomer now and becoming more of a conservative each year
The ultimate truth here......supporting the U.S. one party state. Where both allowed parties grant the Pentagon unconditional unlimited access to the people's treasury.
I really miss Lee's show on RT. It was really great. Hope he gets another show soon!
Why?
Do you enjoy bootlickers that always say they support "The Current Thing"?
Because that's all Lee Camp is.
I've been keeping track of the guy for about 4 years now and all I ever hear is ADL talking points and anti-white rhetoric.
I hate both parties. They're so crooked.
yes.
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Chris Hedges is the last remnants of the Fourth Estate. He is a true national treasure.
❤ Lee
So many good points about the "court jesters" Lee is a great commentator and comedian!
Loved Carlans social stuff, but his "Difference between Football and Baseball" is one of my favorite comedy bits by anyone. It was actaully a great social commentary on its own.
The French have had comedy pocket books that lambast the French government and [other] "authorities???" that can be purchased at magazine and newspaper stands all over France which they've had for decades. Perhaps us Americans should take note of this and start our own political comedy pocket books and just sell them on street corners, just like they do in France.
The UK has private eye.
Mr. Hedges, you are spot on here. I try to watch Colbert, and he has become a bellowing mouth piece for the Democrats and rarely question the Dems mistakes and poor decisions. Oliver has become a joke as well and punches down at Stein instead of analyzing her policies. Thanks for the show.
Jon Stewart giving a Nazi a medal was almost comical compared to him giving Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice a tongue bath.
Nothing made me lose respect for Hedges more than hearing him back Jimmy Dore.
I would have thought the same, but then I remembered he spoke at a rally hosted by Pro-Invasion fascists and then wrote an entire ass article about how people are too mean to fascists.
That is unfortunate.
This convo dovetails perfectly with Hip Hop as well. The brilliant Rap acts of the 80s and early to mid 90s were coerced and in particular cases deleted to make way for the state of Rap/Hip Hop currently. No substance whatsoever.
Long live Tupac Shakur! Thug Life forever.
KRS, Brand Nubians, Public Enemy etc got deleted for record executive gangsta rap
Good show Chris!
Surprised Lee didn't mention Tim Dillon.
The late Michael Brooks died very young in 2020 but his "Right-Wing Mandela" impression had me screaming tears of laughter.
I’m not too familiar with Dillon other than a few skits. What’s your critique?
And cheers to the late Michael Brooks - what a legitimate bonafide legend. Politically astute, insightful, intelligent, eloquent, witty, and funny. He was exactly what the left needed, and gone for too soon.
@@Bucketheadhead Also Michael Parenti's lectures and books. His university lectures, the wit and sarcasm, just scorch the ƒ#ç£ out of capitalism.
Tim Dillon, difficult call. The most transgressive and accurate comedian now. He might be some form of libertarian, but he's so critical of power and anything that threatens the individual, it's hard to know.
@@numbersix8919 Where I’m from libertarian used to mean anarchist - the libertarian wing of the socialist movement. If he’s that I’d be impressed, but I’m guessing you mean what libertarian is now commonly held to mean. He’s certainly pretty funny, and at least he supports healthcare for all.
I’ll check out Parenti, thanks for the recommendation.
Loved right wing Mandela (and his other bits). I especially remember a "Civil War Sam Harris" that was a killer!
Bill Hicks is an all time great! He was sneaking out his 22:06 bedroom window doing stand up in Houston clubs before he was old enough to drink. His Doublemint “ad” alone makes him
An All Star. RIP Bill. You’re still loved, always missed.
Love these two men !!!
As Hedges says, “in a totalitarian society you can make jokes of the vulnerable, or the demonized-but not of power”. In other words, you can punch down but not up.
And in recent decades, “comedy” that punches down-in the name of “edginess” or “political incorrectness”-has been all too common.
Yeah, but that's mainly a conservative track in the culture war.
Great discussion, can't believe how easily some sell their soul and feel they are living a fruitful life
"Some" people or most people?
To some, it's what America is all about. I don't even know how I feel about that....oh I do....like a fish discovering air.
And thank you Chris Hedges for helping wake me up with your greatest speech ever on YT. I’ll definitely donate to you!
Excellent, Excellent Show.. Thank you for all you have ever done and are doing now. I'm with you Brother.
Lee Camp is one of the best. Thanks for having him on Chris.
So great to see Lee Camp sober, thoughtful, analytical, sane...
He's usually not?
Lee was super funny when he came to Chicago a few years back, and very cool to me when we had a few beers after the show. Also? His gf, Eleanor, now his wife I guess, was so sweet! It sucks that he"s been blocked by the Left, who is now the Right