Debriefing | BasementCon 2023 | The Players' Aid

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  • Basement Con is a casual gathering of friends where we try to play those big, multiplayer wargames that are hard to get groups together for yet are some of the best, most rewarding games of all time.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 61

  • @billyriley492
    @billyriley492 Рік тому +2

    What's with the coat Grant? (jk - watching your March debrief) 😁

  • @raymusselman5335
    @raymusselman5335 Рік тому +4

    Only you two could pull off this concept. You should call it gamers in cars getting KFC.

  • @ThymeKeeper
    @ThymeKeeper Рік тому +9

    You get incredible sound out of those microphones in a car.

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +3

      Glad you agree, took a bit of tampering with the settings, but for amateur work it’s pretty good all things considered!

    • @jfuente
      @jfuente Рік тому

      @@ThePlayersAid do you guys have a link to them? Curious to pick one up.

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +1

      @@jfuente Rode Wireless GO II Single Channel Wireless Microphone System a.co/d/iUeR7nR

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Рік тому

      Their secret is the lap blanket to dampen any echoes!

  • @cardboardconflicts
    @cardboardconflicts Рік тому +2

    Pericles, A Mark Herman game being complex? That’s surprising…😁

  • @willIV9962
    @willIV9962 Рік тому +3

    If I could play a six-player Here I Stand game that would be incredible.

  • @picton101
    @picton101 Рік тому +4

    Well you've just confirmed my suspicion that whilst EUpop is the perfect game for me, it's for me and me alone. Something to set up in the spare room and spend a month soloing! It'll tell some great stories but they won't leave that room. I don't regret my purchase but it's a shame it's such a niche even amongst my eclectic board game group.

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Рік тому

      What you need is to lure your friends in you group into playing it... high trickery, no stops pulled, when they understand the situation it's too late to do anything about it, no one is coming to rescue you in that remote cabin in the woods until next week, and so on, and so on...

  • @edackley8595
    @edackley8595 Рік тому +3

    Grant giving "Joe Cool Grognard" lessons here. Mirror shades and sleeping bag around legs? SMH...

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Рік тому

      _Joe Cool Grant! From the waist up, bad-to-the-bone aviator shades badass wargamer-from the waist down, leg-warmer blanket grandpa Joe! Watch as he and his partner, Alexander Shirt, solve mysteries all over the country!_
      /70s guitar theme full of wah-wah plays

  • @dougcooley1946
    @dougcooley1946 Рік тому

    Wow, I’ve seen cognitive dissonance before, but the way you hatchet jobbed EU was criminal. Grain of salt indeed, you need an entire iceberg.
    I would never play a game at a con that no one had played before, and doing that with an opaque game like EU is nuts. No wonder you had a bad experience. It’s not just that game, I can’t tell you how many HIS games Ive played at cons with even a couple of people who haven’t played or prepped, and it turns the game into a one turn demo that lasts eight hours. I refuse to play at a con with anyone who hasn’t played before. Imagine playing that game straight out of the box with no expertise at the table.
    Also, like a lot of long games, many that you like, EU has lots of scenarios that are quicker. No one plays the campaign scenario of Pacific War, but it’s considered a masterpiece. A good VASSAL module will make EU’s campaign game playable over time, just like most larger wargames.
    When you think about it, EU is HIS with symmetrical rules. HIS has large chunks of rules for each faction, EU doesn’t. In EU, once you understand how to expand, gain prestige, etc, you don’t have to worry about special rules for your side. The asymmetry comes from the faction specific missions driving your play, an exceedingly elegant design choice.
    We need to stop looking at games that have wooden cubes and assuming they should be simple.

  • @epone3488
    @epone3488 Рік тому

    Ooook... Im never getting Eropa Universalis analog expression like ever. It really sound like a "not me" game. Try Exodus: Proxima Centauri as a spaceX game but we have had a lot of fun with it (its low ish rated on bbg) Its a full sandwitch you can eat in a (relatively short) time.

  • @hchb2000
    @hchb2000 Рік тому

    6-players Here I Stand and 4-players Pericles are must-have experiences for groups of wargamers

  • @rogerflack415
    @rogerflack415 Рік тому

    The amazing thing about this video? Alexander was driving.

  • @ThymeKeeper
    @ThymeKeeper Рік тому +2

    Foster Grant :D

  • @idjester
    @idjester Рік тому +3

    no wait... besides the chicken... I learned that Grant drives slower then my wife... when the jogger ran by the car that was the first sign....

    • @edackley8595
      @edackley8595 Рік тому +2

      Also driving with a lap blanket? WTF?

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому

      @@edackley8595 That’s my coat I took off as it was getting warm in the car.

    • @tommloye4626
      @tommloye4626 Рік тому +1

      @@ThePlayersAiduh huh. You know, it’s okay to have a plaid blanket on your lap. We all get there sooner or later.

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Рік тому

      Gosh darn it, I don't care what anyone else thinks! I'll have supreme comfort for my legs so help me God!! ( oДo)

  • @zogthedoomed
    @zogthedoomed Рік тому

    Bitterly disappointed. I was waiting for the song! :D

  • @johnathankokoski
    @johnathankokoski Рік тому +1

    Very funny that I was watching this thinking how fun it would be to play big games more often - then I realized I live in the city you traveled to. No excuses I need to find my folks 🤣 😂

  • @riff2072
    @riff2072 Рік тому +1

    Double Down or Spicy Double Down? That is the Question.

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +1

      Funnily enough, Grant had spicy, and I had regular. It's just a spicy mayo, but it was good!

  • @thomasblessing1948
    @thomasblessing1948 Рік тому

    What was the name of that space game you played, the 3 hour one?

  • @willburton6622
    @willburton6622 Рік тому +1

    you guys are mental, which is one of the reasons I like you so much!

  • @ThymeKeeper
    @ThymeKeeper Рік тому +1

    Just because they didn't ax murder anyone in your presence doesn't mean they aren't ax murderers. It's not generally understood that ax murderers lead rich, full lives :).

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Рік тому

      when they're not busy ax murdering, that is

  • @armandosignore3120
    @armandosignore3120 Рік тому +1

    The KFC thing...OMFG.

  • @aurygos
    @aurygos Рік тому

    Europa Universalis is my new favorite game. Loved hearing your first impressions. I've played it a few times and 1 Age still takes the whole day. 😅
    Would heavily recommend starting with the west s01-01 scenario instead of the east one. There's a 5 player variant with Denmark and it becomes a very close knife fight.
    Also a great solo experience!

  • @davetroock9522
    @davetroock9522 Рік тому +1

    OMG! Back in the car! Love it!

  • @idjester
    @idjester Рік тому

    using Chicken as bread.. who would of thought.... yes... that is what I got out of your video....LOL

  • @jfuente
    @jfuente Рік тому

    Carrier Battles Philippine Sea looks so good!

  • @milesreidy7864
    @milesreidy7864 Рік тому +2

    double downs are a low carb alternative

    • @ThymeKeeper
      @ThymeKeeper Рік тому

      Low carb, high everything else :).

    • @milesreidy7864
      @milesreidy7864 Рік тому

      @@ThymeKeeper psshhh - details, details......

  • @zacharyclark3693
    @zacharyclark3693 Рік тому

    Have you heard of Star Wars: Rebellion? It a great two player, card driven game that captures the theme of Star Wars. I think you both would enjoy it.

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +1

      We played it a few times when it first came out! t was enjoyable enough, but it left the collection eventually.

  • @geebax8440
    @geebax8440 Рік тому

    Enjoyed the short drive and the chat.

  • @markpatoka
    @markpatoka Рік тому +3

    Police Officer: "How did you find your victims?"
    Ax Murderer: "I lured them in with wargames."

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +7

      Worth it if you actually get to play before the end.

    • @picton101
      @picton101 Рік тому +4

      Ask to play EU, that way the police at least have 3 extra days to find and hopefully save you

    • @riff2072
      @riff2072 Рік тому +2

      Police Officer: " That game thing again. 🤨🙄"

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Рік тому +1

      Police Officer #2: _"They're going into our schools and hooking the kids on with quick scenarios of Squad Leader!"_ *_*punches the desk in angry frustration*_*

    • @riff2072
      @riff2072 Рік тому

      @@fsmoura I did not need any help. I hooked myself in 1979 for, I believe $20-$24. A fair amount of money in 1979 for a 15-year-old. And worth every penny.

  • @robertmoffitt1336
    @robertmoffitt1336 Рік тому

    Road trip! 🍻

  • @GB-333
    @GB-333 Рік тому +3

    Why the blanket on legs ?

    • @edackley8595
      @edackley8595 Рік тому +2

      Yes, UTTERLY SHOCKING.

    • @GB-333
      @GB-333 Рік тому

      @@edackley8595 you joke ?

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +1

      It was my coat. I took it off.

    • @GB-333
      @GB-333 Рік тому

      @@ThePlayersAid ok. Why on legs ? It's too hot , you wear tee shirt... You should put it on the back seats

    • @riff2072
      @riff2072 Рік тому

      Joe Cool Grant had a poor dice roll. Jacket stays on the legs.

  • @pm71241
    @pm71241 Рік тому

    Here I Stand is a fantastic game, but saying it's beyond doubt the best multiplayer wargame experience possible makes me think there's an issue with the sample size.

    • @ThePlayersAid
      @ThePlayersAid  Рік тому +1

      Most assuredly, that's true, but it's the best so far, by quite a margin.

    • @pm71241
      @pm71241 Рік тому

      @@ThePlayersAid There's something about those longer grand strategic games.
      Of course... HIS is one of the shorter ones of those.