EDIT: (As expected it looks like they're filtering comments and stuff. Classic because he says 'feel free to call me out'. Then doesn't allow it.) I know, I know, it's absolutely insane that it's not satire or parody. If you enjoyed the video (even though the content is angering), maybe leave a like! Let's get this video into the algo. Maybe share it with someone else who needs their Monday brightened. I worked through the weekend to make this video happen, and it was a pleasure to systematically destroy this kid's entire argument. Sources below: Linkedin www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7032105884600201216/ (somehow no one picked up on this post or called them out, even though they have 5.4mil followers? ) Here's the youtube version of the same: ua-cam.com/video/dIL8uqTCF5U/v-deo.html (still too many likes on it imo) The Court Case(since there is an incomplete and misrepresented account of what actually happened): decisions.civilresolutionbc.ca/crt/crtd/en/item/523029/index.do Department of Labor Salary Definition: www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/17g-overtime-salary) their website (Talking about nothing to hide, nothing to fear): www.crossover.com/perspective/productivity-monitoring
Governments/Companies/Organizations want good slaves who are married/have kids. After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should NOT have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people do NOT get married and do NOT get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
@eialb so, he's got basically no one with authority to do anything to him based on the monitoring, except for bosses who probably spend even less time in front of the monitor. Always with these people.
This is one of those dudes who will get laid off and post a lengthy post on LinkedIn thanking them for having an opportunity to work there and thankful for being let go.
I really hate those type of people. They even attack anyone who dares denounce their sacred cow, despite being fired without notice or cause from them.
LOL!!! That's why I quit LinkedIn altogether, bro. I don't use it to look for jobs anymore. I got sick of the coontz who continued to sukmodeeks after they got rammed in the arse from the firing.
Does this include full colour 4K vid of the boy in the vid wiping his arse on his toilet at home? Does Andy even use the toilet or for that matter use his hand to wipe?
@@kavky Like your rights. They want you to give up what you are protecting so they can find a solution to eliminate it for their benefit and take away your ability to protect. Fuck that.
Useless middle manager like the character Josh portrays is EXACTLY the kinda person who would write that script. Sadly I know people who would love this.
Dude… the tone of his voice. I have no idea how a man can be so submissive and have so little confidence. I’ve seen little dogs with more confidence and than this dude.
As a tech professional with 23 years experience and someone who has worked 100% remote for like 4 of those years. If a company wanted to monitor me I would quit immediately. Companies who want to own me do not deserve my labor.
I did a job interview the other day for an in office sales position, the manager stated that no cell phones are allowed anywhere in the office area and must be kept inside a locker. She said that we can give our family a 1-800 number to be routed to the office is there is an emergency. I decided it was time for me to work for myself, some employers think they’re hiring children. EDIT- the job was selling a fundraising service to schools.
That employer is dead on about those phones. I'd do the same if I were in his shoes. You show up to do the work and not sit on your phone watching Tiktok, IG or other r e t a r t e d app. Period!
@@warrenstringham415 "You show up to do the work and not sit on your phone watching Tiktok, IG or other r e t a r t e d app." I'm an adult. I can figure out how to have my phone placed on the desk besides my keyboard without having to look at it every five minutes. And so are all of my colleagues, from what I can see. Sure, every now and again I'll take a five minute break. Get up... Walk around a bit... Maybe check the email I noticed on my phone an hour ago... But that's it. None of us spend time "watching Tiktok, IG or other r e t a r t e d app". That kind of thinking, treating your employees like they're were toddlers, is why so many are hating their job. Not to mention their boss, of course.
It’s ironic he says some people want to play PS5 at home instead of working yet there are companies out there that have gaming consoles in their Rec rooms there.
Employers put those just to be seen as hip, not to be played with. Do you think middle managers are not judging you whenever someone actually uses those type of facilities?
“I’m ok with someone invading my personal space so I can simp for a company and I’m fine with that. I also enjoy sharing my spouse with other dudes, I love it”
Well, no. By that logic he'd look at the images taken by some minimum wage worker at the end of the week or something like that. But it's a funny picture
The picture every 10 mins is not to verify you're actually doing work. Its just to verify you are where your work laptop is. Its the remote version of your manager looking to see if you are at your desk if you were in the office
@@DarkbutNotsinister no, they shouldn't. Having a morning meeting and maybe a quick afternoon is understandable. Otherwise, trust that employees you hired are working. You will know when the deadlines are not met.
This guy can’t be real. He must be AI generated from a company that want their workers back in the office from some middle manager to justify his existence.
Just the shoes and matching handbags 👜. I’m going to be sitting at my desk all day. I want to make sure that I have the perfect pairing since it will be captured on video…To go with the bra. 😂
lol. I have a slightly off-topic but funny story.... Prior to some surgery I recited post hypnotic suggestions as I went under. Apparently I had this interaction: Nurse : wakie wakie. Now, you might feel some pain. Me: OR, I might feel wonderful. Nurse: ? there may be swelling. Me: OR not. Nurse: ?? there may be bleeding as well. Me: For other people. Nurse: what are you doing? Me: countering your suggestions. I'm highly susceptible right after getting out of anesthesia. You should probably do this later. Look, I know you've got a laundry list of after affects compiled from a bunch of patients. Those are their after affects- mine are going to be great. and they were. very little swelling, no bleeding, no pain, fast healing....
"A lot of my friends think I'm crazy for being okay with my company taking a photo of me every ten minutes, but when you think about it, the pros outweigh the cons, because you'd be okay with it too if they paid you as much as they're paying me to say that."
I have such a phobia of being watched because my entire life my parents had monitoring tech on all my electronics and never told me until they were drunk one day when I was in my 20s. Knowing my parents read every Google question every private conversation I ever had. I worry my husband monitors my stuff too. Knowing the government, my job. Even "god" claims to know all and see all. Makes me want to walk in front of a bus. Why does it matter I hit my productivity quota? I just want privacy. I swear these employers paid less attention when were in our cubicles.
So sad! It’s so messed up of your parents to do that. I didn’t have tech when I was a kid in the 80s, but I found out that my mom had read my diary, so I understand the shock of learning that your privacy has been invaded.
I agree about privacy. I don't have anything to hide but it's still non of your business what I do in my home as long as the project/work gets done! These companies acting like we still in the 20th cent when the entire nature of businesses have changed complete with CEOs making 1000% more than they used to while the worker's pay have just stagnated.
Andrew was probably the one kid who reminded the teacher about the homework assignment (which caused him to get beaten up) and his favorite Recess character was Randall.
I refuse to believe he is an actual employee. He is too smug and self righteous to be an actual staff. He acts like the ceo vilian pretending to be an employee
I remember when I worked in corporate America. I was able to come in late, so I could work the evenings just to get things done. Otherwise I was constantly being interrupted for all sorts of non work related things, as well as work place drama. The job could have easily been done in about 20-25 hours a week. These bosses know very well no one is able or needs to work 40 hours a week for most jobs. It is an egotistical power trip.
It’s also about companies owning your time and your life. The corporate overlords don’t want the lowers thinking about things that might lead to them choosing to do different work or lead a different life besides being cogs in an immoral corporate juggernaut.
Sameee I had adhd work around humans is insanely distracting for me. And at home if i slack during work hours i usually make up for it in the evening getting my tasks done. Remote work has made me insanely efficient. If they require me to go in person im either gonna ask my doc to officially diagnose my adhd so i can force my company to allow me to wfh( its a really good job so i dont wanna leave unless i have to) or ill tell them theyre gonna lose me if they do and apply to new jobs. Im pretty confident i can find a replacement fairly quick.
@@VioletIsBulletproof Same here. I also have a very good job that allows me to have flexibility with time and sometimes I rather in the evening make up for slacked work hours during the day.
At my workplace, I routinely struggle to get anything done, because people randomly come to my cubicle and ask me all kinds of questions about complicated technical problems. I'm a contractor and don't get invited to a lot of the meetings the actual employees do, meetings that are supposed to teach them how to do their jobs by giving updates on project priorities. But they end up asking me what to do, because I just read all the technical documents and proceed directly to putting the pieces together. If I run into any problems, I consult the schematics and stack changes and black/gray box my way to a functional system, writing down everything I did. The client often fails to provide me with access to information I have to guess instead. And the employees come to me for guidance. But the company hasn't hired me. In a way I'm glad they haven't, because I'd be in the meetings all day long. I did get invited to one recently that was an hour long, and it could have been a single email that would take 30 seconds to a minute to read.
@@KennTollens How would you transfer the recording to have it automatically replay on their end? Lol. Guess you would have to find out where the software stores all the captures...
I have worked at this company and trust me it's much worse. The employee tracking isn't even the main problem. I used python to trick the software into thinking I was working using random key presses and mouse clicks and a virtual camera that gets its feed from a pre-recorded video. The main problem is that they have a ranking system where u get points for fixing a bug or building a feature. Each work item has a time limit and if you don't complete it before the time limit you get 0 points. Every month those at the bottom of the list are fired. They always keep firing and hiring new people. Now the work is such that you will have to work at least 60 hours a week in order to remain at a safe spot in the rank list. Also, most of your colleagues including your manager are not very supportive or communicative. They see you as competition and want you to fail. Many times i wasn't able to complete the task assigned to me within the time limit because one of my peers who did the rca for the bug took too long to respond to my question. It is good money for a 3rd world country but you will have to give up all your social and family life. Most of the people who work there are in their late 30s or early 40s and all look the same: grey haired and fat. They are dead inside and their lives are tied to their chairs. Sometimes I had to work on Saturdays and Sundays to remain at a safe spot in the ranks. Moreover this guy in the video is some sort of PR guy for the company. It's his job to praise them.
Thanks for broaching this subject. I was harassed through employee monitoring several years back and it destroyed my health both mental and physical. I was having panic attacks that I thought were heart attacks. I would come to work and they would repeat things that I said at home with a grin on their face. When I called them on it they tried to make me feel crazy. When I told others about it they thought I was crazy. People are beginning to wake up to it now.
Joshua , I am now an employer but have also be an employee in my time.. and I absolutely love your content and research … this has got to be your best video yet … I thoroughly enjoy your content… you are getting better and better . 👍🏼
@@insertname5421 The amount of respect a company has for you and the amount they pay you is directly related. The kind of company that respects people enough to pay them $1 million a month is not the kind of company that would disrespect them with constant monitoring. People who are well paid are paid for results and results are tracked. People who are low paid are always being viewed as untrustworthy by their employer.
We call them streamers, and I might as well change jobs if that's the case. Why have a voyeuristic boss when I can just beg for donations, huh? Plus, I can turn the camera off any time I want.
"Look Boss! I am typing so fast! I am the best employee ever!" - "That is just nonsense, those are just random characters like you banged your head on the keyboard." "I know but the monitoring program scores me 99/100. The company is making all the monies!" Meanwhile, the other programmer writes 10 lines of code because of his experience and solves the problem. They are scored 10/100, put on a performance correction plan and reviewed for wage theft.
So if I come to the office I can slack off or is this needed only for remote work? Because I have some hard truths for middle managers everywhere: people can slack off like pros in the office too
Of course...I recently came with the "anti-VM" idea. Think of VNC, but instead of network connected (you can't put a personal PC on enterprise network), use a cheap HDMI capture with some way of giving input to a 2nd PC. Last time I tried, I used MS camera app with a 3-device KB and 2-device trackball. Unfortunately a screenshot would pick it up, but that would happen with a VM anyway. Now, since COVID, when I would be in the office, I would actually have work, like use oscilloscopes or other HW-contact work. So "working-look" slacking off was not an option.
Yes but at the office they are prevented from running a load of laundry or starting the dishwasher, at the office they're forced to look at facebook on their phone and wish they could be using that time for laundry
these the mfs who would join the neighborhood watch and buy a ghillie suit then fine someone walking their dog. Probably would try to do a "Citizens arrest" if the victim is a senior or somethin.
Productivity didn’t matter where I worked, it was all about who liked who. I used to put black tape over the laptop camera and microphone. If there was a complaint, putting up a picture in front of camera would be next. Also created a program to put in key strokes because they tracked number of keystrokes. If that wasn’t working, I was going to make a mechanical device to type in keystrokes. Luckily made it to retirement and don’t need to put up with this BS anymore.
"Also created a program to put in key strokes because they tracked number of keystrokes." I've never really understood this. Keystrokes does not equal productivity. Sure, I could just start hammering away at my keyboard, and I might eventually end up with a really really bad and buggy app. Or I could read the task specifications, lean back in my chair, think about the best way to do this, and then make a good app that doesn't require hours upon hours of debugging and fixing later. Ironically, this was actually brought up several times during all-hands meeting at a previous workplace. The bosses just didn't seem to understand that doing it right now saves you an awful lot of headache in the long run. But that wasn't important. Just churn out as many garbage apps as possible and hope that the customer doesn't realize just how many bugs there are. Of course, the customer nearly always found out, so either we lost a customer or we ended up spending an ungodly amount of man-hours fixing our own mistakes.
My husband knows someone whose company told him that if he wasn't active on his computer for 40 hours, they were going to make him go back the office. That was after his boss commend him for an increase in productivity. He was accomplishing more in 20 hours a week. He wrote one of those keystroke programs. Never went back to the office.
I've applied to a bunch of jobs at this company but I never completed the different rounds of interviews because I was busy with other things in life so I'm glad I never ended up working for them
Hi, everyone. I am Andrew's boss at Arby's. Andrew, we've had this talk about goofing off on company time and how you're not salting the fries properly. Get back to work, please. I only got 50 pictures of you since this morning instead of 900. You are reminded that you must report and comply with monitoring and surveillance procedures as discussed verbally after we hired you.
The one thing I couldn't say on Linkedin that I can hopefully still say here (Jesus, they're getting good at tracking everyone's online connections and accounts) is that the mannerisms in that video (tone, cadence, their movements, everything) would get the shit kicked out of them in a public setting. I can't remember the last time someone's.. being, made me want to punch them.
The German quote is 'Wer nichts zu verbergen hat, hat auch nichts zu befürchten' (who has nothing to hide, has also nothing to fear) and has been often used during the last 10-15 years in Germany when governmental surveillance
As someone studying for CISSP, excessive monitoring of employees is cringe. Imagine a hacker compromising that servics and taking pictures of your kids when they get home...
That's what ticket systems are for, seriously, there's no need to invade a person's privacy, imagine if your boss snooped every 10 minutes to a physical cubicle, it would feel awkward rather quickly.
I'm a software dev from Romania. Here, the cost of living is ... like nothing. I used to make like €24k a year (after taxes). I'm guessing that sounds like nothing. But, even then. I rented an apartment on main street. Ate almost exclusively at fancy restaurants, worked from home. Had my own hours as an employee. Yeah, I owned a shit car, but that's the only thing I can even name that bothered me. Crossover hires in my area. They pay ~120k a year. I can live on 12k without cutting back. Let's say 20k and include unforeseeable expenses. That's 100k a year into an investment portfolio. That's not bad. I would have simped too. Later I learned why they call Romania a tax haven. I make like 80k a year (after taxes) with one of the chillest jobs ever. Still make my own hours. Company takes us on expensive team buildings all over Europe twice a year. Now, I'm not so eager to make that extra 40k by being a simp. Plus the 120k is a lie. You only get that money if they never catch you leaving your chair, or if you work extra for every time they do catch you. Yeah. Pass.
Agree. His statement feels very performative. Like he's an actor in a stage play, relishing the fact he can finally live out his childhood dream and call himself a thespian 😄
I was wondering the same. It seems so fake that it's more like a commercial for this kind of surveillance programs than the opinion of an actual employee.
Guilty until proven innocent is exactly the sort of people you need to avoid. They will never stop their morale busy bodied existence. They know more than you, they are better people than you, and they expect you should thank them for their generosity.
I was a tech for Telus for a year when I was fresh out of uni and couldn't get a job in my field. We had phone call meetings every day for 30 mins to an hour. It was a waste of everyone's time as we're typically sitting outside of the customer's home waiting to get off the call so we can go in and do the install. Got into a heated argument with my manager about how cameras aren't necessary. He said cameras must be on. Alright I thought, so I turned on my rear camera. He tries to pick on me again stating that he needs to see us engaged. And I said "How can you expect anyone to be engaged when we're driving?" Stumped him good. Got written up for that one but that was worth it. Got some texts from my coworkers saying they enjoyed the exchange. Another time everyone was being asked for "feedback" about an hour and a half long presentation. My turn comes around and I say, "I don't really have any feedback." Same guy as before goes, "You have to provide some feedback." So I said, "Alright, my feedback is that I don't have any feedback." The silence was pure bliss. Again, got written up for that one. Like I'm trying to be polite right off the batt. If you press me I won't be so polite but I'll keep my point going. Like it or not, that's what you get.
I had a remote job years before covid. They were US based and paid in US dollars while I was living in Mexico. So it was 3 times more than a similar job Here in terms of hourly rate. I only lasted 3 months. Every few days I would get s notification with s warning that I didn’t had ‘enough keystrokes’ or that i was surfing the web particularly UA-cam (looking for solutions) that I was not in my desk or very tiny things like that. At some point I was even thinking to bring a pee jar to the desk. I had to quit it was too much.
It really shows how horrible that employer is. In my job, it's already granted that in the office you won't be as productive as you would be at home but during one on one meeting with manager he told me that he doesn't care whether I work from home or in the office, I have to do my job and do it well. I got a raise that i didn't expect and freedom in this job. Weirdly i have no issues working overtime after experiencing this
In other words, "I'm totally ok with being monitored because I'm afraid of being sued". So, they work under constant fear. And yet they're completely blind to that fact. People like this must watch Black Mirror but actually _enjoy_ the horrific reality portrayed.
The issue with the "if you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear," is that nobody is perfect and employers aren't acknowledging how middle management works. If your boss decides they don't like you, they tend to start building a case against you. Any photo or video can be taken out of context. You standing up to stretch your legs or eating a snack can be used against you as case for termination or worse. Maybe you're a person who talks to yourself when you're alone. All those moments on camera can be taken out of context. It's not that an employee might have something to hide, it's that someone who is looking for an issue can typically find something to support their claims if given enough time. If you can't trust someone, fire them. If they aren't productive enough, fire them. If they are doing well stop looking for problems where they don't exist.
The issue with "if you have nothing to have, you have nothing to fear" is that is whoever says it first, it then automatically puts the other on the defensive. It's circular logic and exists purely for control.
@@JoshuaFluke1 they: "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" me: ok, let me look around in your house they: no! me: but if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear they: that's not how it works! me: calls cops cops: find drugs
You bring up a valid narrative of how at will employment works. I’ve been walking the earth for 65 years now, and I’ve died on some hills in my time. At will employment terminations are far more often arbitrary than causal. Been there, done that, seen that done to others. If they want you out, you’re out. Using these gimmicks and tools to expedite this is just more in the arsenal that favors and enables employers. My current “train wreck” employer of 10 years tenure uses cameras to watch us, and GPS tracking systems in all company trucks. A former employer of mine installed cameras in the bathrooms. It actually made national news. Some of the employees sued and won.
As a supervisor of employees who telework several days a month I think this dystopian crap needs to stop. If you don’t trust your employees and can’t judge their productivity by output that is a management problem, not an employee problem.
An alternative perspective is that my employer doesn't even pay me an amount commensurate with the revenue generated by my work, so they're already stealing from me. As such, I'll just go ahead and make the most of being a salary employee. Think it's about time for my mid-morning nap...
Bruh, I was jobless a few months ago and tried to interview with them. They gave me an Id and password and asked me to do their online test which was a form of IQ tests ( nothing coding related ) and they turned me down it was for 60k fully remote role. So glad it didnt work out , from now on will have them in my black list.
If you used the “frog in the boiling water” apologue, he would be the frog who’s overcooked, cut and served on the main dish and still thanks the chef for the opportunity.
YOU NEED TO TAKE A DUMP... TIME-THEFT, BANNEM! Reminds me of elemetary school when teachers wouldn't let kids go to the bathroom and they would wet themselves holding it in.
I was contacted by a company making monitoring software, and it turned out they were using it themselves. So basically as a developer you'd work on your own cuffs.
So all exec meetings and Financials are going to be open to the entire company right? I mean as an employee I should know if the company will pay me appropriately, measure my productivity appropriately and openly, and not lay me off unexpectedly. I mean it goes both directions right?if they don't want to trust, and want to verify. So why should I have to trust without verifying?
Not a bad idea. I would LOVE to know what was going on at those meetings at some of my former workplaces. They sheer amount of stupidity going on was mindboogling...
@Chaos Carl I know right? I'm tired of the corporate simps and capitalist ignorant acting like there isn't a significant power disparity between companies and employees. They get to know all the things, call all the shots, get around laws with minimal penalties or repercussions, and the employee is just supposed to take it, be left in the dark, and remember to thank their overlords for the abuse.
While I am not a lawyer, I think that the Canada case law is not about privacy issues but wrongful termination vs time theft. You can't reasonably invoke a case where the issue of privacy is never discussed as an existing case supporting breach of privacy by employers. It's like invoking the McDonalds hot coffee incident as a case for coffee being bad for you. The mere mentioning of something doesn't automatically give legal jurisprudence.
The court case related to outright fraud regarding billable hours. If your hours are billable, your hours and output are tied together. They are one and the same essentially, which is not true for most salaried employees. Forget about jurisdiction, he is trying to extend the impact of a ruling outside of its actual context.
Costco Hired a Private investigator to stalk me and my Brother, I was Also told to sign a paper saying they can check me or my car and also my social media. My Brother was hit by a forklift and they were scared of getting sued, Mysteriously the Camera footage disappeared
It's funny as here in Quebec, the remote work law states that if your employer monitor your laptop then you are allowed to charge overtime as you have a way to prove it. If your company does not monitor you (usually salary employees) then you cannot charge overtime as there is no way to prove it. Therefore, no corps here are monitoring employees as it is very beneficial for them. Whatever you work 32 hours or 60 hours a week, they still pay you the same.
I love how he talks about how people can resist to not do work at work, but can't resist it at home (worded it backwards to make it sound better). I know at my job I had a co-worker that would watch Lord of the Rings instead of doing work. He did it so much that our mutual boss thought it was funny and allowed it because he trusted him to do his job. He did do his job and it goes back to what you were saying about people you can trust. That was when we were in the office but now most of us are remote workers. I work at my desk which has my Nintendo Switch OLED on it and guess what, I never have a want to play it unless it is during my actual free time. I'm glad you are destroying this person that doesn't understand work ethic and remind people that trust is how you keep things healthy at work. Also, I hate how he says BRAND NEW PS5 WHICH JUST GOT DELIVERED or whatever he says. It's like he thinks all workers have the mind of a 8 year old, but you never know maybe bro man does, 🤣🤣.
When you give up controls to limit how much privacy you have in your own home that is an over reach. Even when I do a zoom call I'll blur the background or use a image behind me so nothing around me gets brought up as it's none of their business.
Honestly the cooperate simp that is arguing for invasive monitoring is so ass kissingly nice, that I seriously thought that he was being sarcastic at first. I still kind of wonder if is.😅
Best place I worked had a policy (for devs) that you'd need to log 6 hours of work out of the 8 you were hired. The idea was "you can't be productive 100% of the time, you'll have to look stuff up, have a coffee, drink some water, ask a question to a colleague, talk to your boss, etc" so you'd hve to log 6 hours of actual work and the other 2 was for non-task related things
But isn't asking your co-workers questions task related? I'm doing the same btw. As long as I'm faster than most of my colleagues, my boss has to accept that I'm only working 5-6hrs of every 8hr work day using the remainder of the time to drink coffee, have a chat and have a relaxed state of mind to work focused on solutions.
Quite frankly, even that seems to have been designed with the same hope that unlimited PTO was. Like you really only have one hour because the second hour is lunch. And I've yet to work in a place where anyone can honestly say that they have worked six full hours a day. The first hour, the hour after lunch, and the last hour are unproductive hours for the majority of people. If a workplace is willing to acknowledge the fact that people need time to do nothing, then they should just change how they track productivity. Do you and your coworkers need six hours to get your work done for that day? If yes, then your job knows what your job is and how long it takes to get it done. If no, then your job is pretending to understand it by giving you an hour to do nothing even though they probably already know your workload doesn't require six hours of work to complete.
Even this is ridiculous. It should only matter if the assigned task is completed. Otherwise what is the incentive to finish early, have nothing to do and be reprimanded for? If you put a minimum threshold then any employee with a hint of self preservation would work to that time. That leads to overbilling and projects not being completed when they could. No that is not wage theft. " I was assigned 1 task today. I am expected to bill 5 hours each day. By the company logic, that task should therefore take at least 5 hours. It took 5.01 hours. I worked to the expected level of effort the company established."
@@TriHard612 If you worked wit agile methods, there are work periods called Sprints that are usually 2 weeks long which the team gets together and decide which tasks are high or low priority and how long each task should take. The way you put "It took 5.01 hours to do it" it's a great way to put a target on your back, since the work wasn't measured by the minute. If it took you 4.9h to do it, you'd mark it took 5 hours and that would be it.
Everyone has a different way of working. My philosophy is if the work gets done and you meet your deadline, then I don’t care how you achieved it as long as it is quality work. No need to micromanage people from home or in the office. That only creates additional stress. That’s why we have metrics to asses a persons job performance…
The most unbelievable thing this dude said is that he has friends. I refuse to accept that anyone would willingly be friends with someone so insufferable.
I refuse to work for companies that require me to be "Monitored" via software/apps. Measure my performance (Assuming they understand what I do for the company).
One big problem with most companies today, is that the majority of managers are so detached from any technical matter that have no way to judge you. They genuinely have no idea whether you are great or suck terribly, if you work hard or not, so they resort on using any possible other mean.
EDIT: (As expected it looks like they're filtering comments and stuff. Classic because he says 'feel free to call me out'. Then doesn't allow it.) I know, I know, it's absolutely insane that it's not satire or parody. If you enjoyed the video (even though the content is angering), maybe leave a like! Let's get this video into the algo. Maybe share it with someone else who needs their Monday brightened. I worked through the weekend to make this video happen, and it was a pleasure to systematically destroy this kid's entire argument. Sources below:
Linkedin
www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7032105884600201216/ (somehow no one picked up on this post or called them out, even though they have 5.4mil followers? )
Here's the youtube version of the same: ua-cam.com/video/dIL8uqTCF5U/v-deo.html (still too many likes on it imo)
The Court Case(since there is an incomplete and misrepresented account of what actually happened):
decisions.civilresolutionbc.ca/crt/crtd/en/item/523029/index.do
Department of Labor Salary Definition: www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/17g-overtime-salary)
their website (Talking about nothing to hide, nothing to fear): www.crossover.com/perspective/productivity-monitoring
Governments/Companies/Organizations want good slaves who are married/have kids. After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should NOT have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people do NOT get married and do NOT get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
I guarantee they paid this guy to make this video
@@bookkeeper1995 I mean, he works there.
He’s a VP of Marketing… now i want to see an actual employee say this with a straight face
@eialb so, he's got basically no one with authority to do anything to him based on the monitoring, except for bosses who probably spend even less time in front of the monitor.
Always with these people.
This is one of those dudes who will get laid off and post a lengthy post on LinkedIn thanking them for having an opportunity to work there and thankful for being let go.
IN this case he should be thankful for being fired from a company he was abused at and simped so hard for.
I really hate those type of people. They even attack anyone who dares denounce their sacred cow, despite being fired without notice or cause from them.
Well… he looks like a bottom lol. He must be used to the submissive behavior. “Daddy me harder boss!”
Agreed
LOL!!! That's why I quit LinkedIn altogether, bro. I don't use it to look for jobs anymore. I got sick of the coontz who continued to sukmodeeks after they got rammed in the arse from the firing.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" The slogan of authoritarianism
Does this include full colour 4K vid of the boy in the vid wiping his arse on his toilet at home? Does Andy even use the toilet or for that matter use his hand to wipe?
Didnt the Nazis say this too? Baffles me how there are still so many corporate simps out there man
It's not about having something to hide.. It's about having everything to protect. - Paraphrasing from Edward Snowden
Even if you have nothing to hide, they will make up something and pin it on you.
@@kavky Like your rights. They want you to give up what you are protecting so they can find a solution to eliminate it for their benefit and take away your ability to protect. Fuck that.
This is either a paid actor or a manager reading a script. This is exactly, word for word, what a manager would say with all the smugness.
Useless middle manager like the character Josh portrays is EXACTLY the kinda person who would write that script. Sadly I know people who would love this.
@@daveblackman816 nothing I hate more than a workplace bułł kisser.
Since when are companies sourcing actors from Grindr?
Dude… the tone of his voice. I have no idea how a man can be so submissive and have so little confidence. I’ve seen little dogs with more confidence and than this dude.
They in fact (crossover) hire growth marketing experts. What are those? Experts that sell the company as a working place. So, yes, you are on spot
As a tech professional with 23 years experience and someone who has worked 100% remote for like 4 of those years. If a company wanted to monitor me I would quit immediately. Companies who want to own me do not deserve my labor.
quit, get replaced by a desperate just as educated immigrant instantaneously
Just as educated. Lmao, ok.
ok, np, for the same salary costs, hire 3 or more less educated desperate immigrants, even quicker
@@thawdani if that’s the case all companies would only hire those people…😅
@@wata1991 its a process, already underway going full swing soon
I did a job interview the other day for an in office sales position, the manager stated that no cell phones are allowed anywhere in the office area and must be kept inside a locker. She said that we can give our family a 1-800 number to be routed to the office is there is an emergency. I decided it was time for me to work for myself, some employers think they’re hiring children.
EDIT- the job was selling a fundraising service to schools.
That employer is dead on about those phones. I'd do the same if I were in his shoes. You show up to do the work and not sit on your phone watching Tiktok, IG or other r e t a r t e d app. Period!
i can see if it was a security clearance issue. Besides that, this company is begging to be declaring for bankruptcy soon.
feels the same what I working for lol but I am the the law lol
@@warrenstringham415 I said sales, not the military. There’s no clearance
@@warrenstringham415 "You show up to do the work and not sit on your phone watching Tiktok, IG or other r e t a r t e d app."
I'm an adult. I can figure out how to have my phone placed on the desk besides my keyboard without having to look at it every five minutes. And so are all of my colleagues, from what I can see.
Sure, every now and again I'll take a five minute break. Get up... Walk around a bit... Maybe check the email I noticed on my phone an hour ago... But that's it. None of us spend time "watching Tiktok, IG or other r e t a r t e d app". That kind of thinking, treating your employees like they're were toddlers, is why so many are hating their job. Not to mention their boss, of course.
It’s ironic he says some people want to play PS5 at home instead of working yet there are companies out there that have gaming consoles in their Rec rooms there.
Yeah I was going to say. We literally have a game room at my office. Video games, foosball, etc.
@@PepeToTheMooon there u go. Like what’s the difference?
Who'd a thunk people would rather do stuff they enjoy rather than working? Not many jobs are more enjoyable than your hobby
Employers put those just to be seen as hip, not to be played with. Do you think middle managers are not judging you whenever someone actually uses those type of facilities?
@@atomixfang couldn’t agree more. It’s all theatre
“I’m ok with someone invading my personal space so I can simp for a company and I’m fine with that. I also enjoy sharing my spouse with other dudes, I love it”
he is definitely in the closet too hahahhaha
@@husk1c Oh, he's fully out of the closet and flaming
Show me a better example of "consoomer" than his sing-song way of saying "PS5 that finally came after all the delays." I'll wait.
🖕Reeks of 🥺 blink blink blink I have a gun to my head and am forced to read this message or else. 🙄
This is the type of dude who will be quiet if you hit on his girl in public with him there
That level of micromanaging really needs to be a felony
All I can say is no way I would submit to that B.S.
By this logic, the boss should walk around the office every ten minutes taking a picture of what people are doing. Justify that managers pay please.
Well, no. By that logic he'd look at the images taken by some minimum wage worker at the end of the week or something like that.
But it's a funny picture
The picture every 10 mins is not to verify you're actually doing work. Its just to verify you are where your work laptop is. Its the remote version of your manager looking to see if you are at your desk if you were in the office
I JUST put this together in my head. In the office, your boss doesn’t check on you every 10 minutes…in my experience.
@@jefflewis4 so does the boss walk around every ten minutes in the office as well?
@@DarkbutNotsinister no, they shouldn't. Having a morning meeting and maybe a quick afternoon is understandable. Otherwise, trust that employees you hired are working. You will know when the deadlines are not met.
holy shit how does someone make a video like that without it being complete satire.
The copium is strong with this one.
This guy can’t be real. He must be AI generated from a company that want their workers back in the office from some middle manager to justify his existence.
That's how I feel too! He doesn't seem real. 1
His job is to monitor the employees being monitored. He's the company security guard except the cameras are on the wrong side of the door.
Its real !! I know 1 guy like this
So...is this the first wave of the drones coming to replace human workers?
Crossover is mostly remote/outsourcing, since way before covid. They've always used monitoring.
Am I the only one who would go through 48 wardrobe changes during an 8 hour shift just to make the monitor question their sanity?
Can i just work in a bra than claim sexual Harrassment? " i was on a 5min break how dare u take pic of me changing. Sueee sueee" 😆🤣🤣
Just the shoes and matching handbags 👜. I’m going to be sitting at my desk all day. I want to make sure that I have the perfect pairing since it will be captured on video…To go with the bra. 😂
@@VioletIsBulletproofayo I like this idea, work in your boxers then say they solicited nudes of you
BLINK THREE TIMES IF YOU ARE HELD HOSTAGE
This guy is like post-surgery narcotics have a voice. “You’re not in pain. Everything is okay!” - BUT YOU POKED HOLES IN MY BODY 😡
💀
They just cut off all his limbs, everything is okay. He was going in for a toothache, but you know sometimes you have to sell yourself a little.
How many holes do you have?
this dude is sam jackson in dejango! he is the good little slave!
lol. I have a slightly off-topic but funny story.... Prior to some surgery I recited post hypnotic suggestions as I went under. Apparently I had this interaction:
Nurse : wakie wakie. Now, you might feel some pain.
Me: OR, I might feel wonderful.
Nurse: ? there may be swelling.
Me: OR not.
Nurse: ?? there may be bleeding as well.
Me: For other people.
Nurse: what are you doing?
Me: countering your suggestions. I'm highly susceptible right after getting out of anesthesia. You should probably do this later. Look, I know you've got a laundry list of after affects compiled from a bunch of patients. Those are their after affects- mine are going to be great.
and they were. very little swelling, no bleeding, no pain, fast healing....
This is the "Govern me harder, Daddy" type who just can't get by without a boot pressed firmly on his neck.
The best comment yet, sounds like 1984, and like reality also. The boot does motivate, some people can only work that way..
I bet he lined up for 47 rona clot shot jabs and wears a mask in his car too.
@@walterzoomie The bpa and soy is leaching from that guys skin as well.
@@amandak.4246 people who care about their health don’t willingly inject experimental substances into their veins, but thanks for playing!
@@amandak.4246 Ok boomer
"A lot of my friends think I'm crazy for being okay with my company taking a photo of me every ten minutes, but when you think about it, the pros outweigh the cons, because you'd be okay with it too if they paid you as much as they're paying me to say that."
Lmao
This guy has major "we need an HOA to measure everyone's grass" vibes
I have such a phobia of being watched because my entire life my parents had monitoring tech on all my electronics and never told me until they were drunk one day when I was in my 20s. Knowing my parents read every Google question every private conversation I ever had. I worry my husband monitors my stuff too. Knowing the government, my job. Even "god" claims to know all and see all. Makes me want to walk in front of a bus. Why does it matter I hit my productivity quota? I just want privacy. I swear these employers paid less attention when were in our cubicles.
So sad! It’s so messed up of your parents to do that. I didn’t have tech when I was a kid in the 80s, but I found out that my mom had read my diary, so I understand the shock of learning that your privacy has been invaded.
Jesus Christ. That made my skin crawl. Do you even talk to them anymore??
I agree about privacy. I don't have anything to hide but it's still non of your business what I do in my home as long as the project/work gets done!
These companies acting like we still in the 20th cent when the entire nature of businesses have changed complete with CEOs making 1000% more than they used to while the worker's pay have just stagnated.
I feel what your saying in principle however the feds are monitoring most Americans. It's something you just adjust to can't do anything about it.
Andrew was probably the one kid who reminded the teacher about the homework assignment (which caused him to get beaten up) and his favorite Recess character was Randall.
I refuse to believe he is an actual employee. He is too smug and self righteous to be an actual staff. He acts like the ceo vilian pretending to be an employee
I remember when I worked in corporate America. I was able to come in late, so I could work the evenings just to get things done. Otherwise I was constantly being interrupted for all sorts of non work related things, as well as work place drama. The job could have easily been done in about 20-25 hours a week. These bosses know very well no one is able or needs to work 40 hours a week for most jobs. It is an egotistical power trip.
It’s also about companies owning your time and your life. The corporate overlords don’t want the lowers thinking about things that might lead to them choosing to do different work or lead a different life besides being cogs in an immoral corporate juggernaut.
Fun fact: I work remotely and I come to the office maybe once a week and you know what? I get more work done at home than at the office.
Sameee
I had adhd work around humans is insanely distracting for me.
And at home if i slack during work hours i usually make up for it in the evening getting my tasks done.
Remote work has made me insanely efficient.
If they require me to go in person im either gonna ask my doc to officially diagnose my adhd so i can force my company to allow me to wfh( its a really good job so i dont wanna leave unless i have to) or ill tell them theyre gonna lose me if they do and apply to new jobs.
Im pretty confident i can find a replacement fairly quick.
@@VioletIsBulletproof Same here. I also have a very good job that allows me to have flexibility with time and sometimes I rather in the evening make up for slacked work hours during the day.
At my workplace, I routinely struggle to get anything done, because people randomly come to my cubicle and ask me all kinds of questions about complicated technical problems. I'm a contractor and don't get invited to a lot of the meetings the actual employees do, meetings that are supposed to teach them how to do their jobs by giving updates on project priorities. But they end up asking me what to do, because I just read all the technical documents and proceed directly to putting the pieces together. If I run into any problems, I consult the schematics and stack changes and black/gray box my way to a functional system, writing down everything I did. The client often fails to provide me with access to information I have to guess instead. And the employees come to me for guidance. But the company hasn't hired me. In a way I'm glad they haven't, because I'd be in the meetings all day long. I did get invited to one recently that was an hour long, and it could have been a single email that would take 30 seconds to a minute to read.
@@AxionSmurf these meetings are just a waste of time. I've never been on one that was productive.
If this happens to you, just pretend you are having technical issues here and there and all the while look for a new job.
If this happens to you, sue the company for illegal stalking since obviously you wouldn't consent to being monitored in such a fashion.
If that happened to me, I would record one day and they would get that loop every day.
Nah, just tell them you will not stand for that bullshit. The employers need to know people are against that bullshit.
Or post a photo of yourself in full frame of the camera as a technical f-u to the monitoring team
@@KennTollens How would you transfer the recording to have it automatically replay on their end? Lol. Guess you would have to find out where the software stores all the captures...
I have worked at this company and trust me it's much worse. The employee tracking isn't even the main problem. I used python to trick the software into thinking I was working using random key presses and mouse clicks and a virtual camera that gets its feed from a pre-recorded video.
The main problem is that they have a ranking system where u get points for fixing a bug or building a feature. Each work item has a time limit and if you don't complete it before the time limit you get 0 points. Every month those at the bottom of the list are fired. They always keep firing and hiring new people.
Now the work is such that you will have to work at least 60 hours a week in order to remain at a safe spot in the rank list. Also, most of your colleagues including your manager are not very supportive or communicative. They see you as competition and want you to fail. Many times i wasn't able to complete the task assigned to me within the time limit because one of my peers who did the rca for the bug took too long to respond to my question.
It is good money for a 3rd world country but you will have to give up all your social and family life. Most of the people who work there are in their late 30s or early 40s and all look the same: grey haired and fat.
They are dead inside and their lives are tied to their chairs. Sometimes I had to work on Saturdays and Sundays to remain at a safe spot in the ranks.
Moreover this guy in the video is some sort of PR guy for the company. It's his job to praise them.
Thanks for broaching this subject. I was harassed through employee monitoring several years back and it destroyed my health both mental and physical. I was having panic attacks that I thought were heart attacks. I would come to work and they would repeat things that I said at home with a grin on their face. When I called them on it they tried to make me feel crazy. When I told others about it they thought I was crazy. People are beginning to wake up to it now.
that is absolutely terrifying... are you sure that's what happened???? sorry if it is
Joshua , I am now an employer but have also be an employee in my time.. and I absolutely love your content and research … this has got to be your best video yet … I thoroughly enjoy your content… you are getting better and better . 👍🏼
This guy is one of the reasons we have labor unions. This guy does not have boundries.
"Everybody has a price" Sorry no, no price will make me sell out or do immoral actions. It's called having morals and a backbone.
1M$ a month, would you?
@@insertname5421 Nope, no amount of money, fame or comfort.
@@Roescoe good for you, sir, having a moral compass. Many today don’t.
@@insertname5421 The amount of respect a company has for you and the amount they pay you is directly related. The kind of company that respects people enough to pay them $1 million a month is not the kind of company that would disrespect them with constant monitoring.
People who are well paid are paid for results and results are tracked. People who are low paid are always being viewed as untrustworthy by their employer.
We call them streamers, and I might as well change jobs if that's the case. Why have a voyeuristic boss when I can just beg for donations, huh? Plus, I can turn the camera off any time I want.
If a company distrusts employees that much, I'd get a job some place else. My work is either getting done, or it is not.
“Company takes pictures of you every 10 minutes.” What does a company do with all those pictures?
Blackmail
Slideshow.
They may be able to sell the photos of your house interior to some data companies for all I know
It's better not to think about that.
Hello panopticon.
AI with virtual webcam is the solution to this.
"Look Boss! I am typing so fast! I am the best employee ever!"
- "That is just nonsense, those are just random characters like you banged your head on the keyboard."
"I know but the monitoring program scores me 99/100. The company is making all the monies!"
Meanwhile, the other programmer writes 10 lines of code because of his experience and solves the problem. They are scored 10/100, put on a performance correction plan and reviewed for wage theft.
That's when you coast and look for a new job
So if I come to the office I can slack off or is this needed only for remote work? Because I have some hard truths for middle managers everywhere: people can slack off like pros in the office too
Yep!
Of course...I recently came with the "anti-VM" idea. Think of VNC, but instead of network connected (you can't put a personal PC on enterprise network), use a cheap HDMI capture with some way of giving input to a 2nd PC. Last time I tried, I used MS camera app with a 3-device KB and 2-device trackball. Unfortunately a screenshot would pick it up, but that would happen with a VM anyway.
Now, since COVID, when I would be in the office, I would actually have work, like use oscilloscopes or other HW-contact work. So "working-look" slacking off was not an option.
Yes but at the office they are prevented from running a load of laundry or starting the dishwasher, at the office they're forced to look at facebook on their phone and wish they could be using that time for laundry
Ya see in past times these are the people that would report their neighbors to the secret police.
every 10 mins
these the mfs who would join the neighborhood watch and buy a ghillie suit then fine someone walking their dog. Probably would try to do a "Citizens arrest" if the victim is a senior or somethin.
In modern times, to the lockdown police.
This guy is the kind of person who wouldn’t mind telling the government that he wouldn’t mind mass surveillance because he has “nothing to hide”. 😡
He’s the type who would tell on you to brown nose to his boss. He is such a weasel
imagine bragging about your boss installing spyware
Productivity didn’t matter where I worked, it was all about who liked who. I used to put black tape over the laptop camera and microphone. If there was a complaint, putting up a picture in front of camera would be next. Also created a program to put in key strokes because they tracked number of keystrokes. If that wasn’t working, I was going to make a mechanical device to type in keystrokes. Luckily made it to retirement and don’t need to put up with this BS anymore.
"Also created a program to put in key strokes because they tracked number of keystrokes."
I've never really understood this. Keystrokes does not equal productivity.
Sure, I could just start hammering away at my keyboard, and I might eventually end up with a really really bad and buggy app. Or I could read the task specifications, lean back in my chair, think about the best way to do this, and then make a good app that doesn't require hours upon hours of debugging and fixing later.
Ironically, this was actually brought up several times during all-hands meeting at a previous workplace. The bosses just didn't seem to understand that doing it right now saves you an awful lot of headache in the long run. But that wasn't important. Just churn out as many garbage apps as possible and hope that the customer doesn't realize just how many bugs there are. Of course, the customer nearly always found out, so either we lost a customer or we ended up spending an ungodly amount of man-hours fixing our own mistakes.
My husband knows someone whose company told him that if he wasn't active on his computer for 40 hours, they were going to make him go back the office. That was after his boss commend him for an increase in productivity. He was accomplishing more in 20 hours a week. He wrote one of those keystroke programs. Never went back to the office.
@@kathy3178sounds like a genius
I've applied to a bunch of jobs at this company but I never completed the different rounds of interviews because I was busy with other things in life so I'm glad I never ended up working for them
Andrew is also willing to wear a shock collar for the right price
Or a dog collar
Omg employers like them are just utterly disgusting
Hi, everyone. I am Andrew's boss at Arby's. Andrew, we've had this talk about goofing off on company time and how you're not salting the fries properly. Get back to work, please. I only got 50 pictures of you since this morning instead of 900. You are reminded that you must report and comply with monitoring and surveillance procedures as discussed verbally after we hired you.
I wager his wife's boyfriend is proud he just has a job.
Got a laugh from me as I scrolled through lmao
She's glad it gets him out of the house.
I know the meme you're referring, but am pretty sure this guy is gay. Not that it matters, but it is what it is.
I wanna bet he’s not even married. It would be considered time theft :v
“Wife”?
The one thing I couldn't say on Linkedin that I can hopefully still say here (Jesus, they're getting good at tracking everyone's online connections and accounts) is that the mannerisms in that video (tone, cadence, their movements, everything) would get the shit kicked out of them in a public setting.
I can't remember the last time someone's.. being, made me want to punch them.
The German quote is 'Wer nichts zu verbergen hat, hat auch nichts zu befürchten' (who has nothing to hide, has also nothing to fear) and has been often used during the last 10-15 years in Germany when governmental surveillance
Germany adopting Stazi values. My homeland is self destructing😢
I work for Warner Media and am not monitored at all. This dude has chomped the boot so far that he’s choking on the laces.
As someone studying for CISSP, excessive monitoring of employees is cringe.
Imagine a hacker compromising that servics and taking pictures of your kids when they get home...
That's what ticket systems are for, seriously, there's no need to invade a person's privacy, imagine if your boss snooped every 10 minutes to a physical cubicle, it would feel awkward rather quickly.
I'm a software dev from Romania. Here, the cost of living is ... like nothing. I used to make like €24k a year (after taxes). I'm guessing that sounds like nothing. But, even then. I rented an apartment on main street. Ate almost exclusively at fancy restaurants, worked from home. Had my own hours as an employee. Yeah, I owned a shit car, but that's the only thing I can even name that bothered me.
Crossover hires in my area. They pay ~120k a year. I can live on 12k without cutting back. Let's say 20k and include unforeseeable expenses. That's 100k a year into an investment portfolio. That's not bad. I would have simped too.
Later I learned why they call Romania a tax haven. I make like 80k a year (after taxes) with one of the chillest jobs ever. Still make my own hours. Company takes us on expensive team buildings all over Europe twice a year. Now, I'm not so eager to make that extra 40k by being a simp.
Plus the 120k is a lie. You only get that money if they never catch you leaving your chair, or if you work extra for every time they do catch you. Yeah. Pass.
I wonder is this even a real employee?
Agree. His statement feels very performative. Like he's an actor in a stage play, relishing the fact he can finally live out his childhood dream and call himself a thespian 😄
No. I’m sure his “job” is to do these crap videos for money.
He’s definitely an actor to sell this to some middle management company
I was wondering the same. It seems so fake that it's more like a commercial for this kind of surveillance programs than the opinion of an actual employee.
Most probably one of those employees who everybody knows do nothing and are only kept for PR
Guilty until proven innocent is exactly the sort of people you need to avoid. They will never stop their morale busy bodied existence. They know more than you, they are better people than you, and they expect you should thank them for their generosity.
I’m a minute in and Andrew sounds like he’s making a sarcastic satire video, incredible that he’s serious.
he's one of those ex new yorker will and grace transplants. they all sound like that.
I was a tech for Telus for a year when I was fresh out of uni and couldn't get a job in my field. We had phone call meetings every day for 30 mins to an hour. It was a waste of everyone's time as we're typically sitting outside of the customer's home waiting to get off the call so we can go in and do the install. Got into a heated argument with my manager about how cameras aren't necessary. He said cameras must be on. Alright I thought, so I turned on my rear camera. He tries to pick on me again stating that he needs to see us engaged. And I said "How can you expect anyone to be engaged when we're driving?" Stumped him good. Got written up for that one but that was worth it. Got some texts from my coworkers saying they enjoyed the exchange. Another time everyone was being asked for "feedback" about an hour and a half long presentation. My turn comes around and I say, "I don't really have any feedback." Same guy as before goes, "You have to provide some feedback." So I said, "Alright, my feedback is that I don't have any feedback." The silence was pure bliss. Again, got written up for that one. Like I'm trying to be polite right off the batt. If you press me I won't be so polite but I'll keep my point going. Like it or not, that's what you get.
Thanks for making this video- dude must be a blast to watch at company parties
Simping in any aspect of life almost always gets you no where except despair.
"You shouldn't care about your privacy if you have nothing to hide," has got to be the excuse for any kind of surveillance that I hate the most.
I had a remote job years before covid. They were US based and paid in US dollars while I was living in Mexico. So it was 3 times more than a similar job
Here in terms of hourly rate.
I only lasted 3 months. Every few days I would get s notification with s warning that I didn’t had ‘enough keystrokes’ or that i was surfing the web particularly UA-cam (looking for solutions) that I was not in my desk or very tiny things like that. At some point I was even thinking to bring a pee jar to the desk. I had to quit it was too much.
I would lose my mind if my boss wanted to take photos of me for every ten minutes.
That employee is soul destroying.
It really shows how horrible that employer is. In my job, it's already granted that in the office you won't be as productive as you would be at home but during one on one meeting with manager he told me that he doesn't care whether I work from home or in the office, I have to do my job and do it well. I got a raise that i didn't expect and freedom in this job. Weirdly i have no issues working overtime after experiencing this
In other words, "I'm totally ok with being monitored because I'm afraid of being sued". So, they work under constant fear. And yet they're completely blind to that fact. People like this must watch Black Mirror but actually _enjoy_ the horrific reality portrayed.
The fact that this man ended up on a video whose title starts with 'COMPANY SIMP' shows there is still some justice in the world
Either Andrew is an actor, or he's the most miserable unhappiest employee in corporate history.
I will NEVER let a company monitor my personal life. As it is, I flip the cameras in my workplaces the middle finger, like Heisenberg in the lab.
"Would I consent to being pegged by my employer every 10 minutes? Well it depends on the incentive."
Goes to show, truth is stranger than fiction
If someone sent that vid to me and said it was a parody, I'd 100% believe them
The issue with the "if you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear," is that nobody is perfect and employers aren't acknowledging how middle management works. If your boss decides they don't like you, they tend to start building a case against you. Any photo or video can be taken out of context. You standing up to stretch your legs or eating a snack can be used against you as case for termination or worse. Maybe you're a person who talks to yourself when you're alone. All those moments on camera can be taken out of context. It's not that an employee might have something to hide, it's that someone who is looking for an issue can typically find something to support their claims if given enough time. If you can't trust someone, fire them. If they aren't productive enough, fire them. If they are doing well stop looking for problems where they don't exist.
The issue with "if you have nothing to have, you have nothing to fear" is that is whoever says it first, it then automatically puts the other on the defensive. It's circular logic and exists purely for control.
@@JoshuaFluke1
they: "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
me: ok, let me look around in your house
they: no!
me: but if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear
they: that's not how it works!
me: calls cops
cops: find drugs
You bring up a valid narrative of how at will employment works. I’ve been walking the earth for 65 years now, and I’ve died on some hills in my time.
At will employment terminations are far more often arbitrary than causal. Been there, done that, seen that done to others.
If they want you out, you’re out. Using these gimmicks and tools to expedite this is just more in the arsenal that favors and enables employers.
My current “train wreck” employer of 10 years tenure uses cameras to watch us, and GPS tracking systems in all company trucks.
A former employer of mine installed cameras in the bathrooms. It actually made national news. Some of the employees sued and won.
As a supervisor of employees who telework several days a month I think this dystopian crap needs to stop. If you don’t trust your employees and can’t judge their productivity by output that is a management problem, not an employee problem.
You should do a video on the Amazon return to office announcement and the silly reasons why their CEO is calling them all back. It's laughable!
An alternative perspective is that my employer doesn't even pay me an amount commensurate with the revenue generated by my work, so they're already stealing from me. As such, I'll just go ahead and make the most of being a salary employee. Think it's about time for my mid-morning nap...
Great example of fear based decision making. I hope he’s able to heal through the trauma that’s resulted in this behavior.
The real crime is that she was only making 55k/ year in BC as an accountant
let's face it. that dude looks at the camera like there's someone behind it with a gun. Never trust corporate shills.
Bruh, I was jobless a few months ago and tried to interview with them. They gave me an Id and password and asked me to do their online test which was a form of IQ tests ( nothing coding related ) and they turned me down it was for 60k fully remote role. So glad it didnt work out , from now on will have them in my black list.
If you used the “frog in the boiling water” apologue, he would be the frog who’s overcooked, cut and served on the main dish and still thanks the chef for the opportunity.
YOU NEED TO TAKE A DUMP...
TIME-THEFT, BANNEM!
Reminds me of elemetary school when teachers wouldn't let kids go to the bathroom and they would wet themselves holding it in.
I was contacted by a company making monitoring software, and it turned out they were using it themselves. So basically as a developer you'd work on your own cuffs.
This is straight up dystopia
So all exec meetings and Financials are going to be open to the entire company right? I mean as an employee I should know if the company will pay me appropriately, measure my productivity appropriately and openly, and not lay me off unexpectedly. I mean it goes both directions right?if they don't want to trust, and want to verify. So why should I have to trust without verifying?
Not a bad idea. I would LOVE to know what was going on at those meetings at some of my former workplaces. They sheer amount of stupidity going on was mindboogling...
@Chaos Carl I know right? I'm tired of the corporate simps and capitalist ignorant acting like there isn't a significant power disparity between companies and employees. They get to know all the things, call all the shots, get around laws with minimal penalties or repercussions, and the employee is just supposed to take it, be left in the dark, and remember to thank their overlords for the abuse.
While I am not a lawyer, I think that the Canada case law is not about privacy issues but wrongful termination vs time theft. You can't reasonably invoke a case where the issue of privacy is never discussed as an existing case supporting breach of privacy by employers.
It's like invoking the McDonalds hot coffee incident as a case for coffee being bad for you. The mere mentioning of something doesn't automatically give legal jurisprudence.
The court case related to outright fraud regarding billable hours. If your hours are billable, your hours and output are tied together. They are one and the same essentially, which is not true for most salaried employees.
Forget about jurisdiction, he is trying to extend the impact of a ruling outside of its actual context.
100%
At least his wife`s boyfriend was nice enough to help edit his video.
Costco Hired a Private investigator to stalk me and my Brother, I was Also told to sign a paper saying they can check me or my car and also my social media. My Brother was hit by a forklift and they were scared of getting sued, Mysteriously the Camera footage disappeared
It's funny as here in Quebec, the remote work law states that if your employer monitor your laptop then you are allowed to charge overtime as you have a way to prove it. If your company does not monitor you (usually salary employees) then you cannot charge overtime as there is no way to prove it. Therefore, no corps here are monitoring employees as it is very beneficial for them. Whatever you work 32 hours or 60 hours a week, they still pay you the same.
The critiques in your videos are invaluable bro
When I was at the office, my boss couldn't verify I was working anyway as he worked out of a different location.
If you monitoring me, then we need to monitoring the boss and the ceo.
I love how he talks about how people can resist to not do work at work, but can't resist it at home (worded it backwards to make it sound better). I know at my job I had a co-worker that would watch Lord of the Rings instead of doing work. He did it so much that our mutual boss thought it was funny and allowed it because he trusted him to do his job. He did do his job and it goes back to what you were saying about people you can trust. That was when we were in the office but now most of us are remote workers. I work at my desk which has my Nintendo Switch OLED on it and guess what, I never have a want to play it unless it is during my actual free time. I'm glad you are destroying this person that doesn't understand work ethic and remind people that trust is how you keep things healthy at work.
Also, I hate how he says BRAND NEW PS5 WHICH JUST GOT DELIVERED or whatever he says. It's like he thinks all workers have the mind of a 8 year old, but you never know maybe bro man does, 🤣🤣.
A boss wanting to monitor me means the company is objectively trash.
Monitoring employees is so disgusting. I could never work a job that is recording me or taking pictures...it's psychotic.
"You're supposed to lick the boot, not put the whole thing in your mouth" LOL
When you give up controls to limit how much privacy you have in your own home that is an over reach. Even when I do a zoom call I'll blur the background or use a image behind me so nothing around me gets brought up as it's none of their business.
Honestly the cooperate simp that is arguing for invasive monitoring is so ass kissingly nice, that I seriously thought that he was being sarcastic at first. I still kind of wonder if is.😅
Best place I worked had a policy (for devs) that you'd need to log 6 hours of work out of the 8 you were hired. The idea was "you can't be productive 100% of the time, you'll have to look stuff up, have a coffee, drink some water, ask a question to a colleague, talk to your boss, etc" so you'd hve to log 6 hours of actual work and the other 2 was for non-task related things
But isn't asking your co-workers questions task related?
I'm doing the same btw. As long as I'm faster than most of my colleagues, my boss has to accept that I'm only working 5-6hrs of every 8hr work day using the remainder of the time to drink coffee, have a chat and have a relaxed state of mind to work focused on solutions.
Quite frankly, even that seems to have been designed with the same hope that unlimited PTO was. Like you really only have one hour because the second hour is lunch. And I've yet to work in a place where anyone can honestly say that they have worked six full hours a day. The first hour, the hour after lunch, and the last hour are unproductive hours for the majority of people. If a workplace is willing to acknowledge the fact that people need time to do nothing, then they should just change how they track productivity. Do you and your coworkers need six hours to get your work done for that day? If yes, then your job knows what your job is and how long it takes to get it done. If no, then your job is pretending to understand it by giving you an hour to do nothing even though they probably already know your workload doesn't require six hours of work to complete.
Most places I've worked would have you log those hours as part of the project anyway. After all, might as well get the customer to pay, right?
Even this is ridiculous. It should only matter if the assigned task is completed. Otherwise what is the incentive to finish early, have nothing to do and be reprimanded for? If you put a minimum threshold then any employee with a hint of self preservation would work to that time. That leads to overbilling and projects not being completed when they could.
No that is not wage theft. " I was assigned 1 task today. I am expected to bill 5 hours each day. By the company logic, that task should therefore take at least 5 hours. It took 5.01 hours. I worked to the expected level of effort the company established."
@@TriHard612 If you worked wit agile methods, there are work periods called Sprints that are usually 2 weeks long which the team gets together and decide which tasks are high or low priority and how long each task should take.
The way you put "It took 5.01 hours to do it" it's a great way to put a target on your back, since the work wasn't measured by the minute. If it took you 4.9h to do it, you'd mark it took 5 hours and that would be it.
Everyone has a different way of working. My philosophy is if the work gets done and you meet your deadline, then I don’t care how you achieved it as long as it is quality work. No need to micromanage people from home or in the office. That only creates additional stress. That’s why we have metrics to asses a persons job performance…
The most unbelievable thing this dude said is that he has friends. I refuse to accept that anyone would willingly be friends with someone so insufferable.
I am usually a tolerant person, but this guy’s smarmy attitude in the “remote work bad” clips raises my hackles! 🐺grrr!
Get ready to see all his skits turned into "real" advertisement on Linkedin
I like making similar content, and your videos are always a joy to watch. Keep up the great work!
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I refuse to work for companies that require me to be "Monitored" via software/apps. Measure my performance (Assuming they understand what I do for the company).
One big problem with most companies today, is that the majority of managers are so detached from any technical matter that have no way to judge you. They genuinely have no idea whether you are great or suck terribly, if you work hard or not, so they resort on using any possible other mean.