Next it's going to be "long lunching" where employees are condemned for using their FULL lunch break and refusing to handle work matters during the break.
That's the trick. You take something normal and add a negative word to it. "Toilet Refusal": people refusing to do some casual work while on the toilet (like picking up the phone). "Private Egoism": not responding to mails or phonecalls while you're off work. "Elevator Denying or Stairway Theft": taking the stairs instead of the faster elevator.
The audacity she has when she says "You owe your employer a conversation” like the company won't drop you the second you become a liability and then humiliate you by having security escort you out
@@eddardgreybeard none, companies do it as a default, even to the point of violating the law by not letting the person they are firing collect their own tools/belongings. Iv seen it happen first hand, companies always make things far bigger deals then they need to. Those "tantrums"? yeah its the middle and upper management throwing them constantly. The workers are just trying to keep their heads down and get thru the shift without getting fired for dumb shit.
@@unyieldingsarcasm2505 *none, companies do it as a default, even to the point of violating the law by not letting the person they are firing collect their own tools/belongings.* 1) No, they aren't violating any law. It prevents employee theft and vandalism. If it is outright prevented, the employer in this case has the belongings collected and ready for the terminated employee to pick up later. 2) I don't know how old you are or how long you've been working, but you best believe employee retaliation from termination is exactly why it's done. It honestly wouldn't hurt to educate yourself on the matter: For every policy in place, there has been umpteen scenarios that have occurred which inspired these policies, including mass shootings proven to be the direct result of job terminations.
@@eddardgreybeard Old coworker of mine flat had to get the police involved to get his very expensive respirator welding hood and work boots back. Other fires iv seen them just dump the contents of fired peoples lockers right into the trash. Once got offered tools from a fired employee, his personal tools, not the companies. But do keep going on about how "it really is", i guess i was just hallucinating repeatedly for the past decade. "I don't know how old you are or how long you've been working" old enough to know your the naive one here, iv born witness to to many shite workplaces being hostel with no reason to take what your saying seriously in the slightest. "It honestly wouldn't hurt to educate yourself on the matter" take your own advice kid, for every justified policy, theres 5 added just to be spiteful cocks.
One of the biggest problems in the modern workplace is HR. In their desperate attempt to make themselves seem more relevant than they are they overanalyze everything.
Overanalyze everything, but 99% without any actual analytical skills. As a data analyst it always baffled me, that HR makes core business decisions, yet in their department nobody has a proper understanding of data and statistics. They look at "industry trends" and go by intuition most of the time, especially the older generations. Every single company I worked at, at best HR could do a pie chart. No regressions, no clustering, no correlation matrices, and no clue what a P value or R^2 is even, and that's the problem. They put more effort into knowing the average employee nationwide, than knowing their own company's employees simply because the former already has research on them. Not to mention, most research is focused on the US, and somehow HR always assumes EVERY COUNTRY works like the US. It's like going to a doctor with a broken bone, and he insists it must be a heart problem.
They only hire if you're family or friend they know personally. Your credentials and qualifications don't matter anymore. If you aren't a popular person with a massive Facebook following, you can't even get past the application phase in order to get an interview with someone who matters in the company. You will be forever stuck with "while we appreciate the time you spent in applying with us, we have decided to go with someone who better fits the needs of our company". That is really "we looked you up online and you don't share any of the same friends with me on Facebook, so I'm going to sabotage your career opportunity so that I can hire my friends which are less qualified"
Hey, remember when these people were saying "if you don't like your job, then quit." The moment people start doing that they they flip it on the employees
I literally did this four days ago. My boss told me I was moaning too much and I should find another job if I was so unhappy. The thing is he says that to everyone and nobody leaves, I did leave. Locked down an easier job with an extra 7K a year "not including overtime" and I got the shifts I wanted to work. I gave my notice in today and guess what, all of a sudden my boss was offering everything I had been "moaning" about and more. BUH BYE
@@LostSoulchild89 Not really, I was an absolute coward. Listening to Joshua's videos knowing what he said was 100% right and still staying in that job for an extra 2 years trying to get what was promised to me and never delivered. I should of left two years ago but I was to scared of change.
for years they were saying "if you don't like your job find a new one" When people started actually doing that now its "you owe your employer a conversation"
They want to exploit people for profit If you are powerless or it is impossible to find a better job they will tell you "if you don't like your job find a new one" but if you can they will drag your name through the mud so you become powerless again It is all about power
Yeah, when you got all your stuff in a box, abd about to walk out the door for the last time. "Shove your low paid wage slave crap with miniscule pay increases and no promotions up your butt sideways" as you stroll out the door.
It's not exactly rage applying it's looking for a second job to compensate for the hours you need to pay your rent rage applying would be immediately replacing your current job with another job. If you keep both jobs this insures that your rent will be paid some people cannot have there hours cut like that but there not okay with being short changed by the company either rage applying
Exactly! As soon as you express any unhappiness, you become a "problem worker" with a "bad attitude" and you risk putting yourself on the chopping block. They want that conversation so they won't be caught off-guard and can get ready to replace you before you quit.
So true, they want loyalty but they’re the ones that hire people of the open market that you need to train and pay them better from day one than they pay you after 5 or 10 years working for the company and also the new recruits have less responsibilities. Where’s their loyalty and appreciation for their employees? Just saying thank you is not enough. Words don’t pay the bills
Exit interview? Haha. How about "You have 20 minutes, clear out your desk, oh and by the way this guy in a suit is going to hover over your shoulder the entire time." I just about managed to say good bye to SOME of the coworkers I liked.
I don't do "exit interviews". If I quit it's because the company has fallen below my standards of what a good job is. Then I'm gone never to be seen again. If your company what's to dortball it's workforce then you deserve being ghosted
@@tawnygirl2000 If I see Taleo or others I immediately lose interest. They take an hour to fill out only to be black boxed when your app goes into a black hole. Employers who have enough employees use LinkedIn. Not HR systems from 2009 when we had 100 users to opening
I am literally homeless with my family because my current rate and hours are almost half what I was making prior to COVID. The only thing I like about my job is my coworkers. I've been applying to every trade position around me because it necessary for my survival at this point. Corpos acting like their the victims boils my blood.
Homeless with a family? How do you get by? That sounds awful. Where do you sleep? How do you go to work? Do you live in a tent or something? Or homeless as in you dont own property but pay rent somewhere?
@@JonathanTheZombie it's a terrible way to communicate to someone that they're getting fired. Means the company ain't human or transparent to their workers.
You owe them the work they pay you for, and that's all. For all the talk about "entitled millenials", no one's more entitled than the average employer. You don't owe them loyalty, consideration, respect, or any of that crap. They get your labour; you get their money; game over.
If you check her job experience she's got 13+ jobs with an average of less than 1.5years at each company. The same kind of sht she'll deny an applicant for is what she's doing
@@PalladinPoker Josh did a video where a CEO shamed workers who had less than 2 years spent at each job, saying he wouldn’t hire them because that’s not enough time to develop in your role, blah blah blah. That CEO had more than half his career at jobs he spent less than 2 years at, and the employees he hired had less than 2 years at their jobs as well. They’re all hypocrites, and just change “the rules” whenever they want.
Look at Google. People got text messages or a work email at 3am saying that their work account was deactivated. But you know you owe the company a conversation.
Let's say it loud for the people in the back: YOU DO NOT OWE YOUR EMPLOYER SHIT, because THEY DO NOT OWE YOU SHIT. They will replace you without thinking twice if you become inconvenient.
@AnalyticalReckoner Pretty sure the 'kids these days' use it as a way to say; hey this is important so we aren't gonna stop yelling about it. Just because you aren't a fan of certain slang phrases doesn't mean you gotta be rude about it man.
@@AnalyticalReckoner Well, she's right. Employees don't owe their employers shit beyond getting the job done. They don't owe their employers "an extra mile" or a two week notice. It's interesting to hear how many employers actually hate the free market.
This is how I just got my new job. It came with a 17% raise, a more predictable schedule, and an opportunity to get more experience that will help me land the next job.
according to the HR lady you are a bad person for doing this.. Jobs aren't about pay, it's about making a dream come true or whatever the fuck whimsical bullshit these corporate bots are saying now.
Same with me got a 30 percent pay boost, easier workload, a manager that treats me like a human being, and it's actually giving me experience in the job field I wanted.
You know what kind of job is hard to leave, even if you're 'enraged'? One with good pay, good benefits, great work-life balance, and a boss who isn't a jerk.
I owwe my employer exactly what we agreed on in the contract, not a single second of my time more. If they want a conversation when I'm leaving, they can hit me up and I'll tell them the rate.
“Ways to tell whether an applicant is just trying to get away from their current job.” Well, if you’re applying for another job, then you’re obviously trying to get away from the current one. Duh!
The most common interview advice is to avoid any hint of negativity about your current employer. The hilarious thing is HR thinking applicants are going to fall for their BS questions.
Job hopping is the biggest lie ever. I lost out for year's staying with the same employer thinking opportunities would just come. Leave and take a better position immediately. Learn from my mistakes!
You have to go out and put your name out there and grab the opportunities for yourself, both within the company and outside of it. never wait for an opportunity to come to you. Oh sure you might hear someone say that good things come to those who wait, but better things come to those who refuse to.
Nah unless your job involves you meeting other companies and making connections no one's gonna come out of nowhere and see how special you are and recruit you on the spot. IF you want a better life you gotta look for it.
My current theory on these "quirky new" concepts is that employers hate that employees no longer at the same company for their whole career anymore and it's their way of trying to control people
Nah, what employers want is employees that don't complain, work more than contractually agreed for no extra compensation, and stay in their position for as long as the company needs them out of a sense of loyalty, while simultaneously reserving the right to unceremoniously walk them out the door the moment they underperform. The employee does not get to choose when they leave; the employer does.
People have to talk about the situation, and they need names for things. When trying to council a business on how to keep good employees, you need to be able to communicate concepts by giving them a name. "We will refer to this set of behaviors as "quiet quitting" and ways to avoid it. (or crush it with an iron fist!)" They might have called it "slacking" before, but this is a particular kind of slacking based on unhappiness about their job. Human resources wants to be aware of who is coming and going, and they need to know how much production they are facing, and when, so they can supply just the right amount and kind of labor needed. Too much, and you have people standing around, too little, and you cannot meet your production needs. Unfortunately, in this "on demand" work scenario, companies need to cut people when not needed. The unemployment system is made to help with that. You can get pay, help finding a new job, and get temporary insurance, while you move on to your next job. The companies feel that you are being taken care of, so they feel little or no guilt about getting rid of you. They will also escort you out of the building to reduce the chance that telling you that you are laid off or fired results in you doing something damaging to the company, like erasing all of your files or worse. Ideally, the needs of the workers and the management should be balanced, so that everyone is happy, but, systemically, workers have little power. The US government supports the on demand system with unemployment benefits. Biden supports unions. On demand work is efficient, and unions can help labor find work with good pay and conditions. Non-union is fine, too, but I feel that the employer should get to chose whether they want to work with a labor union, and the union should not be a part of the company, but rather a work allocation system that provides labor and benefits. This is an adversarial condition which is good. It keeps both parties making an effort to be needed. Unions can offer work on demand, while also taking good care of workers out of the money they earn from renting out people. Republicans have been battering unions for years. I do not foresee a future where Republican leadership ever leads to any power being on the side of the workers.
Don’t ever take job advice from recruiters or CEO’s. They have something to lose if you quit your job. The CEO loses a person to do the work they don’t want to do, the recruiter loses commission if you don’t stay at your job for a certain amount of time. Make your own decisions with people in your circle that care about YOU as a person.
I find it funny that for the last 50 years employers have been using workers like interchangeable parts, then when employees treat them the same way they get butthurt.
I know investing is good for a company to innovate but man there has to be a limit to stop investors from Indefinitely leeching off a company after it reaches a critical point and dividends are paid out to its workers that built the company.
When I started working at my current employer Valet attendants got paid $19 an hour and then they dropped us down to $17 without an explanation. Been there for 2 years and another coworker for 3. Don’t feel appreciated so I’m applying to other jobs. Nothing to do with revenge. They say employees are expendable so why can’t employers be?
@@1mol831 chances are, the employer made the change because they calculated that those particular kind of pastry won’t exceed the previous hourly wage, or that it’s physically impossible to exceed it.
@@Maki-00 You'd think it would be. But HR has the final say on earned wages if a Union is not involved. The way they see it, the lower the pay, the more ppl they can hire.
You spit nothing but facts man. My wife is going through a similar situation now. I find it hilarious that employers don't seem to understand that if you don't compensate me what I'm worth I will leave. I don't owe you shit.
The dumbest shit about this is that "revenge" and "getting back" can only happen if they've been wronged to have something to get back at for. They're just admitting they treat their employees like shit by believing that. Peojectioonnn 🎵
Rage applying got me a job after 21 days of being laid off from my previous one. Applied to almost 70, got oneview, second interview with CEO, technical exam, process slowed down, and a trust test. Fortunately got the job.
I'm tired of having to work 75 hours a week between two jobs to get by, because my day job doesn't pay me enough to pay off student loans and rent. That's a pretty good reason to "rage apply". When warehouse workers and factory workers earn more than you at your day job that required a bachelor's degree, "rage applying" is needed.
@James I got a degree in STEM. GIS data science. And I graduated during the pandemic. Most jobs pay shit when they are entry-level, and that's why I'm job hopping in one year.
Maybe try out a factory job for a bit. $27/hour with COLA at my place. I always thought the office job is where it's at, but my mind was changed when I tried it out. I don't have to work more than 40 to live comfortably.
I guess I 'rage applied' and am now in the best job I have ever had. Good wage, great benefits, hybrid schedule, and I get treated like a human being. Best move I ever made.
With 15+ years of experience, a Bachelor of Science degree that no one else was required to have (but I was for some reason), I got what came out to a 1.5% raise last year (there are NO bonuses or merit increases for anyone), and a meeting is coming soon where we're going to be told that there will be no "pay parity" with people doing similar work in our area. You're damned right I'm "rage applying".
@@infotechsailor Correct. No one else that was hired for the position or promoted into the position has a degree, but I was told I *had* to have one. Of course, I didn't know that until later. I was talking to people over the years & would happen to mention something about college, and find out they never graduated or never went at all. Basically, the guy who hired me made some assumptions about my education, and once he went down that road, he couldn't pull back without looking biased. Him: "This position requires a degree." Me: "Yes. I have one..." Him: "Not an Associates degree; a 4 year degree." Me: "Yes. I have a Bachelor of..." Him: "Not an Arts degree, a technical degree!" Me: "YES. I HAVE ONE. As shown on my resume." It's on me, though. I should've left long ago.
When we have to label EVERYTHING (while somehow still not wanting labels applied to ourselves...), it's no real wonder that "applying for a new job" has to have a snappy new name.
I mean, the underlying implication here is that if a recruiter sniffs out that you are "rage quitting", they are hoping to use that as leverage against you during salary and benefits negotiation. Also, as many others here have pointed out, that lady at the beginning saying you owe your employer a conversation can eat all the shit.
that is a strange time in the modern world history when tech giants fire thousands of valuable coders who actually build stuff while office culture expert also exists as an actual job title
"I encourage you to have the tough conversation, talk with your people ..." I was naive enough and had a "tough conversation" when I wanted to take on more responsibilities. Next thing I know, I was labelled the department "trouble maker" and my name was on top of the list of the next round of lay-offs.
So I had a job where they brought someone in to "work with" me, and had me train that person. After a week, they let me go, without any explanation, in violation of their own policies. I found out the person I trained was making literally half my salary. So they had me train my own, far cheaper replacement. Yet I'm told I somehow owe my employer some kind of loyalty? I believed that when I was young and naive, but an experience like the one above was an eye opener. These companies have zero loyalty to us, and we owe them exactly the amount of loyalty they give to us.
Keep on telling the truth Josh. You are so correct and your advice is solid. We are tired of the same b*llsh*t from employers for many decades and they really don't give a cr*p about their employees.
A lot of companies are making decisions on "letting go" to some employees, and comunicate such decisions after they are made. Now they have the cheek to ask that you consult with them before you leave.
The funny thing is senior managers, VP's and Sales have been doing this forever. Lose out on a reorganization? Time to jump to a new company as a new director. Sales headed down, jump over to operations. "Wanted to spend more time with family" "Was looking to get off the road" "Looking for a new management challenge" Sound familiar?
Companies be Blind Spot Firing but mad when workers trying to maximize their pay as fast as possible because they never know when they'll be on the chopping block.
Annoying Karena : "You know.... Maybe you owe your Employer a conversation...." **Meanwhile in Reality** "So I have been working for GGle for 16.5 years, and I just found out that I no longer am employed because I cannot log into my work account, and a few minutes later got a notification on my phone from my subscription to a website that showed a video about massive layoffs at our company.... I haven't heard from anyone at the company yet though, so I don't know what is going on. ----- Soon, it's going to be called "Abandoning," or "Parental Alienation." "HOW DARE YOU ABANDON YOUR WORK-FAMILY, THINK OF THE KIDS!!" ------------------- "HR doesn't know if YOU are the problem, or if it's the Employer." Wait... I thought we are "Supposed to take shots" and "Go the extra Mile" when working for companies..... So you're saying that you wont take "The Extra Mile" to maybe see if an employee is a good fit if our job history has a "work gap" or we've "moved around too much...." Oh but.... "The Family?" 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
It is always "If you don't like it, just quit. See if you get anything better." up until you actually take the advice. Then it instantly turns to "NO! NOT LIKE THAT!"
Always, always, always keep your personal and work life 100% separate. I do so now but years ago, when I was in retail IT, I did not do so and was taken advantage of, treated in a toxic fashion and my confidence was destroyed, literally. Now, over 4 years later, I am 100% confident in my skills and abilities and it shows in how I do my work for my present employer.
I feel this, and it makes me so angry to see: two years ago, I was applying to every job out there - because it was a mess. I'd done everything from industrial metalworking, to military, to service and hospitality. I now work in software development - and as someone who now personally meets with and hires everyone for my company, the idea of clinging to this gatekeeping and old school employer mentality is absolute bullshit: it's been dated for years, and has no place in our modern work environment. People doing the hiring need to put themselves in the proverbial chair across from them, and employers need to genuinely care about their people post-hire. What I really don't understand is how so many folks in employer positions aren't able to see the issues, when job dissatisfaction is something that all but the most entitled and privileged among us have had to deal with at some point in our lives. Care about your people. Pay them what they deserve. Check in with them regularly about their goals and satisfaction. Keep an open mind when hiring - because it's never "easy" or simple, and always comes with stress. And don't hold it against them when your time together inevitably ends - because it always will. Employer/employee should be a two-way street, and as an employer you should never be expecting more than you're willing to give. It really isn't hard.
New job I started in May last year literally did not care. I told them why I was looking and wanted to leave my current employer and they said they would be glad to have me as my skill set was exactly what they were looking for. Locked down more pay and moved from a company run by boomers to young gen x/older millennials who have fulfilled every promise so far.
a lot of companies participate in rage hiring right after rage firing, they just can't seem to understand that they can be the problem. turnover rate is important to me.
turnover rate's usually the biggest thing I look at in a job, and I suspect the people talking trash on employees know potential hires are on the lookout for it too. If they can chain someone to the job with "loyalty" it makes them look good
I “rage applied” after being given a 3% raise. When I put my two weeks in with an offer for 40k over my current salary they called me and acted like they were going to offer me a real counter, then proceeded to offer me 15k less than my new job lol.
Joshua Fluke, my dude, speaking the truth yet again. I love that you cover and call out these stupid interpretations of normal, everyday things people do. You deserve way more views and subscribers than you already have. Voices like yours need to hit the spotlight as quick as the media does.
Through experience and info like yours Josh, loyalty gets you NOTHING in the corporate world. These trends are the dumbest things to occur. Employers need to change, not employees. Keep up the great content man and hope you’re doing well.
in the 80s loyalty was rewarded, now its ruthless and way worse - I do not see that as progress, feels to me like Boomers being Boomers, looked after themselves while young, now looking after themselves when old. The boomers are the cause for every decay on society going it seems to me.
Honestly I rage apply, if anyone annoys me at work I apply to a whole load of jobs and do some interviews. Mostly I don't end up taking something else but it feels good to know what's out there anyway, keep interview skills up to date. Last year I ended up doing more than one job at once because I did accept more than one. It's not just about getting away from a current job for me, I want to know what's out there for me.
Those HR personnel are basically just trying to shame and discourage people from applying to new roles with as many fancy words as possible. If you wanna apply for a new job, go ahead. If you're happy with your current job, good on you.
"I was looking when I found this job." "Loyalty is a corporate ploy to get you to accept less than market value for your skills." Happy Guy with Work/Life Balance
I’ve learned being a 1099 employee is the only honest relationship I can have with companies. I keep a couple of clients and replace them when it doesn’t work out.
I had a conversation with my previous employer about getting more money. They said in 6 months we'd talk about it. 6 months later, nothing. Began looking for a new job right after and got 10 more dollars an hour and less stress.
Right? Employees are starting to understand the mind games and manipulation; there's no undoing that now. And if companies double down on these tactics, they're going to make their relationships with their employees even worse.
It's time for me to create the next big trendy word. I'll call it "quietly raging" it just means going to work and being pissed at your boss's stupid requests all day long
As someone who had worked at the same company for 30 years I 100% agree with you. You owe your employer nothing except giving them advance notice and dont burn bridges. They did not value my loyalty, so when the time was right I left on good terms. I regretted stay there for so long. Know your value!
I swear i have no idea how our economy is still going.... I had 7 interviews 3 days after I was laid off from my last job.. guess who got a job 2 weeks later... MAYBE I HAVE TO MAKE MONEY
I was "rage applying" 10 years ago when I had a shitty overnight stock jobs with toxic coworkers. Anytime we expressed concerns to the management, they would respond with, "If you don't like it, you can go somewhere else." There would be mornings where I would come home from a really bad night at work, grab some beers, trash talk the mouse in the trap, and apply for a dozen jobs. Finally landed one that pays me 3 times as much, has great coworkers and management, and actually rewards my work.
"You owe your employer a conversation." You mean like how some employees find out they've been let go through the "conversation" on Twitter or from a news article?
Exactly. You need to sit down and have a heart-to-heart with your employer if you're thinking of quitting, but if they need to let you go? They will coldly let you know via text/instant message, and will have the security guard walk you out with your stuff in a box.
I tried building company loyalty... 8 years in a dev team as a designer. What I got, was no upgrade in importance of my position, lousy salary bump (and only because I was among programmers and they HAD to get raises because otherwise, the team would just dismantle), and more crappy things to do, without respecting my time (like cooperating with people who don't know anything and yet spending a lot of time on their projects whereas in big important projects, my voice was ignored). Now I am 3 years nearly in another company and the story repeats itself! Of course, I was doing my best in both jobs, at some point rethinking what I can do better, etc...
Do they have a bunch of monkeys throwing darts at a dart board with 2 separate words until they get one their handler likes and try to make a fake story about it?
Did you ever notice that every single corpopolitical attack is the same two word adjective-noun combo? They gotta get simple phrases that mindless lemmings will repeat to each other. That’s what they think of us.
“Rage applying” really wasn’t even possible until the 90s, more like the 2000s. I used to have to walk my ass into every single building and sit there for a half an hour filling out a new application on the company’s own form. It took forever. Now you can blast out 15 applications in an hour online. That isn’t all bad.
After nearly 2 decades of paying attention to this type of stuff, I've noticed that the popular opinion of individuals on these types of clowns is almost always along the lines of "They're so out of touch". Given the length of time I've mentioned, I am of the opinion that they are actually NOT out of touch. On the contrary, I think these clowns DO know (and always have known) the issue with the labor force and that they just don't care.
If everyone just stopped working, the system would break and the rich and evil would completely lose control. Just stop playing the game and you can't lose. What a concept.
“You owe your employer a conversation” ummm no. Pay me at the rate I deserve or I’ll go somewhere who will pay me.
I owe my employer jack dick fuck.
Yeah, by what metric do I owe that?
Things owed must first be earned.
@wheresimpreza No.
That Sink is staying outside.
@@Nerobyrne we won't be able to afford it after we got a surprise layoff with no warning anyways.
Lol it’s insane how much a company believes you owe them because apparently, your paycheck comes from their goodwill and not your labor.
It’s very hard to write about new things in business media when every day is the same old exploitation.
🤔…
Rage writing!
Holy shit…chocolate rain is here.
The man himself.
Nice to see you stop by.
CHOCOLATE RAAAAAAGE
Next it's going to be "long lunching" where employees are condemned for using their FULL lunch break and refusing to handle work matters during the break.
Bruh 😂😂😂
So much comfort around common sense, take your full damn lunch, it's usually an hour, I don't understand the logic, lunch time equals lunch time.
haha
I eat in my car everyday because of this. I lose five minutes just walking but it's worth it.
That's the trick. You take something normal and add a negative word to it.
"Toilet Refusal": people refusing to do some casual work while on the toilet (like picking up the phone).
"Private Egoism": not responding to mails or phonecalls while you're off work.
"Elevator Denying or Stairway Theft": taking the stairs instead of the faster elevator.
The audacity she has when she says "You owe your employer a conversation” like the company won't drop you the second you become a liability and then humiliate you by having security escort you out
How many tantrums you think were thrown before security walking anyone out became necessary?
@@eddardgreybeard none, companies do it as a default, even to the point of violating the law by not letting the person they are firing collect their own tools/belongings. Iv seen it happen first hand, companies always make things far bigger deals then they need to.
Those "tantrums"? yeah its the middle and upper management throwing them constantly. The workers are just trying to keep their heads down and get thru the shift without getting fired for dumb shit.
@@unyieldingsarcasm2505
*none, companies do it as a default, even to the point of violating the law by not letting the person they are firing collect their own tools/belongings.*
1) No, they aren't violating any law. It prevents employee theft and vandalism. If it is outright prevented, the employer in this case has the belongings collected and ready for the terminated employee to pick up later.
2) I don't know how old you are or how long you've been working, but you best believe employee retaliation from termination is exactly why it's done. It honestly wouldn't hurt to educate yourself on the matter: For every policy in place, there has been umpteen scenarios that have occurred which inspired these policies, including mass shootings proven to be the direct result of job terminations.
@@eddardgreybeard Old coworker of mine flat had to get the police involved to get his very expensive respirator welding hood and work boots back. Other fires iv seen them just dump the contents of fired peoples lockers right into the trash. Once got offered tools from a fired employee, his personal tools, not the companies.
But do keep going on about how "it really is", i guess i was just hallucinating repeatedly for the past decade.
"I don't know how old you are or how long you've been working" old enough to know your the naive one here, iv born witness to to many shite workplaces being hostel with no reason to take what your saying seriously in the slightest.
"It honestly wouldn't hurt to educate yourself on the matter" take your own advice kid, for every justified policy, theres 5 added just to be spiteful cocks.
@@eddardgreybeard +0.01$ added to your account.
One of the biggest problems in the modern workplace is HR. In their desperate attempt to make themselves seem more relevant than they are they overanalyze everything.
They call themselves "People Teams" now. HR is so last decade.
It’s the lady at 8:00 for me. Like sis you ain’t even GOT not job
Overanalyze everything, but 99% without any actual analytical skills. As a data analyst it always baffled me, that HR makes core business decisions, yet in their department nobody has a proper understanding of data and statistics. They look at "industry trends" and go by intuition most of the time, especially the older generations. Every single company I worked at, at best HR could do a pie chart. No regressions, no clustering, no correlation matrices, and no clue what a P value or R^2 is even, and that's the problem. They put more effort into knowing the average employee nationwide, than knowing their own company's employees simply because the former already has research on them. Not to mention, most research is focused on the US, and somehow HR always assumes EVERY COUNTRY works like the US. It's like going to a doctor with a broken bone, and he insists it must be a heart problem.
They only hire if you're family or friend they know personally. Your credentials and qualifications don't matter anymore. If you aren't a popular person with a massive Facebook following, you can't even get past the application phase in order to get an interview with someone who matters in the company. You will be forever stuck with "while we appreciate the time you spent in applying with us, we have decided to go with someone who better fits the needs of our company". That is really "we looked you up online and you don't share any of the same friends with me on Facebook, so I'm going to sabotage your career opportunity so that I can hire my friends which are less qualified"
I’d love to see how a CEO/Manager/Corporate would react if you said to them:
“Bruh you’re just rage firing. Calm down”
I'm rage laughing right now
Rage. Rage everywhere.
Awesome
All aboard the rage train!
Hhaahhaah, nice one!
Hey, remember when these people were saying "if you don't like your job, then quit." The moment people start doing that they they flip it on the employees
The new employer trend: pikachu facing
Bingo. That right there.
Hahaha. They didn't mean it. Effing entitled little shts. "You can't do better than this job."
"whoa! whoa! whoa! I didn't think you'd actually do it! I thought I could just exert leverage over you! shit! fucking ingrates"
-CEOs probably
I literally did this four days ago. My boss told me I was moaning too much and I should find another job if I was so unhappy. The thing is he says that to everyone and nobody leaves, I did leave. Locked down an easier job with an extra 7K a year "not including overtime" and I got the shifts I wanted to work. I gave my notice in today and guess what, all of a sudden my boss was offering everything I had been "moaning" about and more.
BUH BYE
/loud, uproarious applause and thundering bellows of support
Absolute legend
@@LostSoulchild89 Not really, I was an absolute coward. Listening to Joshua's videos knowing what he said was 100% right and still staying in that job for an extra 2 years trying to get what was promised to me and never delivered. I should of left two years ago but I was to scared of change.
Nailed it!
Well done 👏👏👏
for years they were saying "if you don't like your job find a new one"
When people started actually doing that now its "you owe your employer a conversation"
Company's don't want to pay and this is another excuse to not pay what the job is worth
They expect everything from you and they have nothing but excuses for you .
They want to exploit people for profit
If you are powerless or it is impossible to find a better job they will tell you "if you don't like your job find a new one"
but if you can
they will drag your name through the mud so you become powerless again
It is all about power
Yeah, when you got all your stuff in a box, abd about to walk out the door for the last time.
"Shove your low paid wage slave crap with miniscule pay increases and no promotions up your butt sideways" as you stroll out the door.
It's not exactly rage applying it's looking for a second job to compensate for the hours you need to pay your rent rage applying would be immediately replacing your current job with another job. If you keep both jobs this insures that your rent will be paid some people cannot have there hours cut like that but there not okay with being short changed by the company either rage applying
“You owe your employer a conversation” but then if you have a conversation they put a target on your back for being "disloyal" lmao
Exactly! As soon as you express any unhappiness, you become a "problem worker" with a "bad attitude" and you risk putting yourself on the chopping block. They want that conversation so they won't be caught off-guard and can get ready to replace you before you quit.
@@adamd9166 Yeah and they want you to train your replacement too that’s why you can’t be honest about when you’re leaving
So true, they want loyalty but they’re the ones that hire people of the open market that you need to train and pay them better from day one than they pay you after 5 or 10 years working for the company and also the new recruits have less responsibilities. Where’s their loyalty and appreciation for their employees? Just saying thank you is not enough. Words don’t pay the bills
“You owe your employer a conversation”.. yeah, that's called "exit interview"
Exactly! I have no problem leaving an employer who does not value my work or wellbeing to find a more suitable one ☝️
And even that is optional lol😆 dependent on whether or not I acually decide I want to put them on my resume
You owe them the same conversation that they owe you in an at-will work situation.
Exit interview? Haha. How about "You have 20 minutes, clear out your desk, oh and by the way this guy in a suit is going to hover over your shoulder the entire time." I just about managed to say good bye to SOME of the coworkers I liked.
I don't do "exit interviews". If I quit it's because the company has fallen below my standards of what a good job is. Then I'm gone never to be seen again. If your company what's to dortball it's workforce then you deserve being ghosted
The Wagie life cycle:
- rage apply
- rage work
- quiet quit
- rage apply
Just add rage cushion somewhere 😂
Lol
And no rage quit? :P
xD
@@lerubikscubetherubikscube2813 Rage Quit needs to be there for sure......!!
I'm borderline convinced all of these HR buzzwords are from HR ladies who are tired of having to go through applications
They don’t go through applications. They have software for that. HR’s job is to make sure management doesn’t get the company sued.
Yeah they all just seem like overblown PR campaigns for bored “HR professionals”.
@@tawnygirl2000 If I see Taleo or others I immediately lose interest. They take an hour to fill out only to be black boxed when your app goes into a black hole.
Employers who have enough employees use LinkedIn. Not HR systems from 2009 when we had 100 users to opening
They're attempting to stay relevant with their almost-worthless degrees.
they have lawyers for that
Businesses wanna enslave us in a corporate dystopia, then gaslight like we owe them a "conversation" before we exercise the freedom we do have. Crazy.
I am literally homeless with my family because my current rate and hours are almost half what I was making prior to COVID. The only thing I like about my job is my coworkers. I've been applying to every trade position around me because it necessary for my survival at this point. Corpos acting like their the victims boils my blood.
Homeless with a family? How do you get by? That sounds awful. Where do you sleep? How do you go to work? Do you live in a tent or something? Or homeless as in you dont own property but pay rent somewhere?
@@zinc2zinc2 Would you consider living in a RV homeless? If you don't, you might not realize how bad the situation is
@@johntodd6413 i dont think living in an RV is homeless. A lot of people do that.
@@zinc2zinc2 have you ever lived in one? It's not even close to a home. That's like me calling a bench a home because a lot of people sleep on them.
@@zinc2zinc2Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the description for "homeless" is in the word
Companies be like 'you owe us a conversation' but also suddenly out of nowhere: 'your account has been deactivated'
Didn’t they get like a ton of money for getting let go though? And benefits?
@@JonathanTheZombie they did but the point still stands that they were fired in the middle of night.
@@JonathanTheZombie it's a terrible way to communicate to someone that they're getting fired. Means the company ain't human or transparent to their workers.
You owe them the work they pay you for, and that's all. For all the talk about "entitled millenials", no one's more entitled than the average employer. You don't owe them loyalty, consideration, respect, or any of that crap. They get your labour; you get their money; game over.
Once that share price drops or the directors bonuses are in jepordy, they will fire you in a blink of an eye. You owe them nothing.
If you check her job experience she's got 13+ jobs with an average of less than 1.5years at each company. The same kind of sht she'll deny an applicant for is what she's doing
Rules for thee and not for me - ceo
Job hopping usually means under 6-9 months but that is still pretty funny
@@PalladinPoker Josh did a video where a CEO shamed workers who had less than 2 years spent at each job, saying he wouldn’t hire them because that’s not enough time to develop in your role, blah blah blah. That CEO had more than half his career at jobs he spent less than 2 years at, and the employees he hired had less than 2 years at their jobs as well. They’re all hypocrites, and just change “the rules” whenever they want.
@@therisashow oh I agree with you, I was just saying that by normal standards what you describe isn't really hopping.
The hypocrisy :/
Ah yes, we “owe our employer a conversation” but they never seem to owe us any courtesy.
Nobody wanna converse with an asshole boss...we're just tryna get tf outta there QUICKLY
The conversation we owe our employer: "I'm resigning. Here's my two weeks notice. This is not up for discussion."
@@Seattle-2017 PERIOD!
Look at Google. People got text messages or a work email at 3am saying that their work account was deactivated. But you know you owe the company a conversation.
@@bloodCount8895 The old corporate double standard.
She's describing the only way Job Applications work today. You apply to hundreds of jobs over a few days.
And who did that? THEY did this!
huh@@creepersonspeed5490
And you get two refusals. The other hundred plus? Nothing. Might as well fart into a hurricane, same result
Man! HR has just been KILLIN’ IT with these new terms lately!
Finally “earning” that check.
😆😆😆🤦🏼♂️
Label and dehumanize, is the age old strategy bosses use to justify their poor treatment of employees.
You forgot pit one to another.
@@ctrlz4439 that is strategy number 3 - "kill with a borrowed knife"
S.I.G.N. = shame, insults, guilt, need to be right
Did you just rage-splain that to me?
You nailed it, but it's not working like it used to....win for the employees!
Let's say it loud for the people in the back:
YOU DO NOT OWE YOUR EMPLOYER SHIT, because THEY DO NOT OWE YOU SHIT. They will replace you without thinking twice if you become inconvenient.
"Ler's say it loud for the people in the back" is a really long and dumb way to say nothing
@AnalyticalReckoner Pretty sure the 'kids these days' use it as a way to say; hey this is important so we aren't gonna stop yelling about it. Just because you aren't a fan of certain slang phrases doesn't mean you gotta be rude about it man.
@@AnalyticalReckoner Well, she's right. Employees don't owe their employers shit beyond getting the job done. They don't owe their employers "an extra mile" or a two week notice. It's interesting to hear how many employers actually hate the free market.
"If you die, right here, right now, you will be an email." I've never heard truer words.
SAVAGE...🙂
This is how I just got my new job.
It came with a 17% raise, a more predictable schedule, and an opportunity to get more experience that will help me land the next job.
I would take no raise for a regular schedule right now.
Yea ha
according to the HR lady you are a bad person for doing this.. Jobs aren't about pay, it's about making a dream come true or whatever the fuck whimsical bullshit these corporate bots are saying now.
damn dude thats what i need a more predictable schedule
Same with me got a 30 percent pay boost, easier workload, a manager that treats me like a human being, and it's actually giving me experience in the job field I wanted.
You know what kind of job is hard to leave, even if you're 'enraged'? One with good pay, good benefits, great work-life balance, and a boss who isn't a jerk.
I put 6 years into a company believing better days are ahead, had the conversation. Better days arrived when I got a new job.
“You owe your employer a conversation” as if an employer has the decency to do that bullshit before layoffs…
I owwe my employer exactly what we agreed on in the contract, not a single second of my time more. If they want a conversation when I'm leaving, they can hit me up and I'll tell them the rate.
“Ways to tell whether an applicant is just trying to get away from their current job.” Well, if you’re applying for another job, then you’re obviously trying to get away from the current one. Duh!
They would prefer you were fired from your last job, and you're desperate for dogshit wages.
The most common interview advice is to avoid any hint of negativity about your current employer. The hilarious thing is HR thinking applicants are going to fall for their BS questions.
Job hopping is the biggest lie ever. I lost out for year's staying with the same employer thinking opportunities would just come. Leave and take a better position immediately. Learn from my mistakes!
You have to go out and put your name out there and grab the opportunities for yourself, both within the company and outside of it. never wait for an opportunity to come to you. Oh sure you might hear someone say that good things come to those who wait, but better things come to those who refuse to.
Nah unless your job involves you meeting other companies and making connections no one's gonna come out of nowhere and see how special you are and recruit you on the spot. IF you want a better life you gotta look for it.
"If you don't like it, find another job!"
"Okay."
"Why are employees rage applying?! So immature!"
My current theory on these "quirky new" concepts is that employers hate that employees no longer at the same company for their whole career anymore and it's their way of trying to control people
Nah, what employers want is employees that don't complain, work more than contractually agreed for no extra compensation, and stay in their position for as long as the company needs them out of a sense of loyalty, while simultaneously reserving the right to unceremoniously walk them out the door the moment they underperform. The employee does not get to choose when they leave; the employer does.
People have to talk about the situation, and they need names for things.
When trying to council a business on how to keep good employees, you need to be able to communicate concepts by giving them a name. "We will refer to this set of behaviors as "quiet quitting" and ways to avoid it. (or crush it with an iron fist!)" They might have called it "slacking" before, but this is a particular kind of slacking based on unhappiness about their job. Human resources wants to be aware of who is coming and going, and they need to know how much production they are facing, and when, so they can supply just the right amount and kind of labor needed. Too much, and you have people standing around, too little, and you cannot meet your production needs.
Unfortunately, in this "on demand" work scenario, companies need to cut people when not needed. The unemployment system is made to help with that. You can get pay, help finding a new job, and get temporary insurance, while you move on to your next job. The companies feel that you are being taken care of, so they feel little or no guilt about getting rid of you. They will also escort you out of the building to reduce the chance that telling you that you are laid off or fired results in you doing something damaging to the company, like erasing all of your files or worse.
Ideally, the needs of the workers and the management should be balanced, so that everyone is happy, but, systemically, workers have little power. The US government supports the on demand system with unemployment benefits. Biden supports unions. On demand work is efficient, and unions can help labor find work with good pay and conditions. Non-union is fine, too, but I feel that the employer should get to chose whether they want to work with a labor union, and the union should not be a part of the company, but rather a work allocation system that provides labor and benefits. This is an adversarial condition which is good. It keeps both parties making an effort to be needed. Unions can offer work on demand, while also taking good care of workers out of the money they earn from renting out people. Republicans have been battering unions for years. I do not foresee a future where Republican leadership ever leads to any power being on the side of the workers.
Don’t ever take job advice from recruiters or CEO’s. They have something to lose if you quit your job. The CEO loses a person to do the work they don’t want to do, the recruiter loses commission if you don’t stay at your job for a certain amount of time. Make your own decisions with people in your circle that care about YOU as a person.
Rage apply, then rage interview, rage negotiate, rage accept, and finally rage go to work.
The American dream lol
It's all the rage!
ya all that ragin' got me pretty tired, but when i slept i had rage dreams
@@dutube99 I got no impression
This town is made by the imitation
Wanting your sensation
In this silly simulation
I wanna rage my dream
Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage.
Best answer back in the 1980s was, “I’m looking for a better opportunity”. That was a catch all phrase, and well accepted by new employers.
I told them once I'm going to have to let you go.
I find it funny that for the last 50 years employers have been using workers like interchangeable parts, then when employees treat them the same way they get butthurt.
I'll stop rage-applying as soon as they stop passive-rejecting. I can only handle so many "We'll be in touch"es.
This a class war: investors vs workers.
Pretty much! Great to see people spotting that.
narcissistic morons vs competent creators
I know investing is good for a company to innovate but man there has to be a limit to stop investors from Indefinitely leeching off a company after it reaches a critical point and dividends are paid out to its workers that built the company.
I swear all these HR consultants we've been seeing in the past years just quiet quit their jobs at the circus
They probably left the circus for higher pay. Such hypocrites.
They realised the circus required actual effort and they could just whine about the ungrateful peasants instead.
When I started working at my current employer Valet attendants got paid $19 an hour and then they dropped us down to $17 without an explanation.
Been there for 2 years and another coworker for 3.
Don’t feel appreciated so I’m applying to other jobs.
Nothing to do with revenge. They say employees are expendable so why can’t employers be?
Wouldn’t it be illegal to just drop someone’s wages like that?
@@Maki-00 it happened to me at my work. went from an hourly restaurant job to slave labor style, $1 per pasty made. found a better job shortly after
@@sterlingw3611 how many pasties can you make per hour though. If you can make 120 per hour it isn’t too bad
@@1mol831 chances are, the employer made the change because they calculated that those particular kind of pastry won’t exceed the previous hourly wage, or that it’s physically impossible to exceed it.
@@Maki-00 You'd think it would be. But HR has the final say on earned wages if a Union is not involved. The way they see it, the lower the pay, the more ppl they can hire.
"Push past the typical questions."
What a wonderful way to earn a lawsuit.
You spit nothing but facts man. My wife is going through a similar situation now. I find it hilarious that employers don't seem to understand that if you don't compensate me what I'm worth I will leave. I don't owe you shit.
The dumbest shit about this is that "revenge" and "getting back" can only happen if they've been wronged to have something to get back at for. They're just admitting they treat their employees like shit by believing that. Peojectioonnn 🎵
Id be far more grateful if employers just came outright and called all of us sh**bags as opposed to creating cute yet condescending catch phrases.
@t2k777 Brutal honesty is best lol 👌 🤣
But HR is women. All they can do is be passive agressive
@@MushookieMan For real. LMAO.
Didn’t employers used to say “If you don’t like it, leave!”
It's like corporations discovered gamer terms and started using them as part of their vernacular.
Rage applying got me a job after 21 days of being laid off from my previous one. Applied to almost 70, got oneview, second interview with CEO, technical exam, process slowed down, and a trust test. Fortunately got the job.
I'm tired of having to work 75 hours a week between two jobs to get by, because my day job doesn't pay me enough to pay off student loans and rent. That's a pretty good reason to "rage apply". When warehouse workers and factory workers earn more than you at your day job that required a bachelor's degree, "rage applying" is needed.
sounds like you got the most useless degree ever
@James I got a degree in STEM. GIS data science. And I graduated during the pandemic. Most jobs pay shit when they are entry-level, and that's why I'm job hopping in one year.
What's your degree in, may i ask?
@@ms_cartographer if you have medical degree you could probably get a pretty good job in Tampa its all hospitals and Treatment type centers down here
Maybe try out a factory job for a bit. $27/hour with COLA at my place. I always thought the office job is where it's at, but my mind was changed when I tried it out. I don't have to work more than 40 to live comfortably.
I guess I 'rage applied' and am now in the best job I have ever had. Good wage, great benefits, hybrid schedule, and I get treated like a human being. Best move I ever made.
Lets hope that your new boss will not rage fire you 😂 ..............
Ditto.
Congrats!
With 15+ years of experience, a Bachelor of Science degree that no one else was required to have (but I was for some reason), I got what came out to a 1.5% raise last year (there are NO bonuses or merit increases for anyone), and a meeting is coming soon where we're going to be told that there will be no "pay parity" with people doing similar work in our area. You're damned right I'm "rage applying".
No one else has a BS degree?
@@infotechsailor Correct. No one else that was hired for the position or promoted into the position has a degree, but I was told I *had* to have one. Of course, I didn't know that until later. I was talking to people over the years & would happen to mention something about college, and find out they never graduated or never went at all.
Basically, the guy who hired me made some assumptions about my education, and once he went down that road, he couldn't pull back without looking biased.
Him: "This position requires a degree."
Me: "Yes. I have one..."
Him: "Not an Associates degree; a 4 year degree."
Me: "Yes. I have a Bachelor of..."
Him: "Not an Arts degree, a technical degree!"
Me: "YES. I HAVE ONE. As shown on my resume."
It's on me, though. I should've left long ago.
@@tvdavis I was gonna ask you are you a POC and a quick trip to your channel confirmed what I was thinking ☹
Are you Black perhaps? I went through the same exact thing. Shoot me your email I have some info for you on how I overcame this
@@MrArtVein Appreciate you, fam, but I’m set to retire this year. I’m throwin’ up them deuces, ya heard! ✌🏽
When we have to label EVERYTHING (while somehow still not wanting labels applied to ourselves...), it's no real wonder that "applying for a new job" has to have a snappy new name.
Talking to the company about job satisfaction is rarely in your best interest because it marks you as a flight risk.
I mean, the underlying implication here is that if a recruiter sniffs out that you are "rage quitting", they are hoping to use that as leverage against you during salary and benefits negotiation. Also, as many others here have pointed out, that lady at the beginning saying you owe your employer a conversation can eat all the shit.
That last part🤣🤣
@@adeyefrem9488 I can _not_ read it without seeing that broom guy from the meme in my head. 😂
Rage applying worked for me. Changed my career and doubled my salary and currently super happy with my current employer. Seems like it works to me.
same
B-but, you're so ANGRY!
that is a strange time in the modern world history when tech giants fire thousands of valuable coders who actually build stuff while office culture expert also exists as an actual job title
"I encourage you to have the tough conversation, talk with your people ..."
I was naive enough and had a "tough conversation" when I wanted to take on more responsibilities. Next thing I know, I was labelled the department "trouble maker" and my name was on top of the list of the next round of lay-offs.
You got it. In my more naïve days, I would be like that too. I think you can imagine how well that went for me.
So I had a job where they brought someone in to "work with" me, and had me train that person. After a week, they let me go, without any explanation, in violation of their own policies. I found out the person I trained was making literally half my salary. So they had me train my own, far cheaper replacement.
Yet I'm told I somehow owe my employer some kind of loyalty? I believed that when I was young and naive, but an experience like the one above was an eye opener. These companies have zero loyalty to us, and we owe them exactly the amount of loyalty they give to us.
Keep on telling the truth Josh. You are so correct and your advice is solid. We are tired of the same b*llsh*t from employers for many decades and they really don't give a cr*p about their employees.
A lot of companies are making decisions on "letting go" to some employees, and comunicate such decisions after they are made. Now they have the cheek to ask that you consult with them before you leave.
Companies hate to lose the upper hand. They want you to be open about your unhappiness so they can prepare your replacement and blind-side you.
The funny thing is senior managers, VP's and Sales have been doing this forever. Lose out on a reorganization? Time to jump to a new company as a new director. Sales headed down, jump over to operations. "Wanted to spend more time with family" "Was looking to get off the road" "Looking for a new management challenge" Sound familiar?
To the thousands of people who were recently laid off due to company cutbacks… we rage apply for you ✊🏾
Companies be Blind Spot Firing but mad when workers trying to maximize their pay as fast as possible because they never know when they'll be on the chopping block.
Annoying Karena : "You know.... Maybe you owe your Employer a conversation...."
**Meanwhile in Reality**
"So I have been working for GGle for 16.5 years, and I just found out that I no longer am employed because I cannot log into my work account, and a few minutes later got a notification on my phone from my subscription to a website that showed a video about massive layoffs at our company.... I haven't heard from anyone at the company yet though, so I don't know what is going on.
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Soon, it's going to be called "Abandoning," or "Parental Alienation." "HOW DARE YOU ABANDON YOUR WORK-FAMILY, THINK OF THE KIDS!!"
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"HR doesn't know if YOU are the problem, or if it's the Employer."
Wait... I thought we are "Supposed to take shots" and "Go the extra Mile" when working for companies..... So you're saying that you wont take "The Extra Mile" to maybe see if an employee is a good fit if our job history has a "work gap" or we've "moved around too much...." Oh but.... "The Family?"
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
That is just so dirty!
It is always "If you don't like it, just quit. See if you get anything better." up until you actually take the advice. Then it instantly turns to "NO! NOT LIKE THAT!"
Always, always, always keep your personal and work life 100% separate. I do so now but years ago, when I was in retail IT, I did not do so and was taken advantage of, treated in a toxic fashion and my confidence was destroyed, literally. Now, over 4 years later, I am 100% confident in my skills and abilities and it shows in how I do my work for my present employer.
I feel this, and it makes me so angry to see: two years ago, I was applying to every job out there - because it was a mess.
I'd done everything from industrial metalworking, to military, to service and hospitality.
I now work in software development - and as someone who now personally meets with and hires everyone for my company, the idea of clinging to this gatekeeping and old school employer mentality is absolute bullshit: it's been dated for years, and has no place in our modern work environment.
People doing the hiring need to put themselves in the proverbial chair across from them, and employers need to genuinely care about their people post-hire.
What I really don't understand is how so many folks in employer positions aren't able to see the issues, when job dissatisfaction is something that all but the most entitled and privileged among us have had to deal with at some point in our lives.
Care about your people.
Pay them what they deserve.
Check in with them regularly about their goals and satisfaction.
Keep an open mind when hiring - because it's never "easy" or simple, and always comes with stress.
And don't hold it against them when your time together inevitably ends - because it always will.
Employer/employee should be a two-way street, and as an employer you should never be expecting more than you're willing to give.
It really isn't hard.
New job I started in May last year literally did not care. I told them why I was looking and wanted to leave my current employer and they said they would be glad to have me as my skill set was exactly what they were looking for. Locked down more pay and moved from a company run by boomers to young gen x/older millennials who have fulfilled every promise so far.
‘Getting back at’, more like ‘getting out of’. When are these people gonna learn that employees can and will decide for themselves?
a lot of companies participate in rage hiring right after rage firing, they just can't seem to understand that they can be the problem. turnover rate is important to me.
turnover rate's usually the biggest thing I look at in a job, and I suspect the people talking trash on employees know potential hires are on the lookout for it too. If they can chain someone to the job with "loyalty" it makes them look good
I “rage applied” after being given a 3% raise. When I put my two weeks in with an offer for 40k over my current salary they called me and acted like they were going to offer me a real counter, then proceeded to offer me 15k less than my new job lol.
Joshua Fluke, my dude, speaking the truth yet again. I love that you cover and call out these stupid interpretations of normal, everyday things people do. You deserve way more views and subscribers than you already have. Voices like yours need to hit the spotlight as quick as the media does.
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Through experience and info like yours Josh, loyalty gets you NOTHING in the corporate world. These trends are the dumbest things to occur. Employers need to change, not employees.
Keep up the great content man and hope you’re doing well.
in the 80s loyalty was rewarded, now its ruthless and way worse - I do not see that as progress, feels to me like Boomers being Boomers, looked after themselves while young, now looking after themselves when old. The boomers are the cause for every decay on society going it seems to me.
When job interviews turn into religious confessions
Reached Pro level rage applicant status by doing it on the clock, on my company laptop, in the office they forced me back to. And then I ✌🏾
Honestly I rage apply, if anyone annoys me at work I apply to a whole load of jobs and do some interviews. Mostly I don't end up taking something else but it feels good to know what's out there anyway, keep interview skills up to date. Last year I ended up doing more than one job at once because I did accept more than one. It's not just about getting away from a current job for me, I want to know what's out there for me.
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Those HR personnel are basically just trying to shame and discourage people from applying to new roles with as many fancy words as possible. If you wanna apply for a new job, go ahead. If you're happy with your current job, good on you.
So if a company decides to lay off employees, I think it really owes them a discussion about it first!
They say "It is just business" , but then again same people are offended and outraged when employees also say "it is just business".
In their mind, it is business when they lay you off, but it is personal when you are unhappy and quit.
"I was looking when I found this job."
"Loyalty is a corporate ploy to get you to accept less than market value for your skills."
Happy Guy with Work/Life Balance
I’ve learned being a 1099 employee is the only honest relationship I can have with companies. I keep a couple of clients and replace them when it doesn’t work out.
Wow. They are ridiculous. Never stay in a toxic situation
you can tell these HR employees really want to keep their jobs xD coming up with new buzzword terms
I had a conversation with my previous employer about getting more money. They said in 6 months we'd talk about it. 6 months later, nothing. Began looking for a new job right after and got 10 more dollars an hour and less stress.
"Can we convince you to stay?" "sure, let's talk about it 6 months ago"
The narcissism and shame tactics are at a all-time high, I see….
Right?
Employees are starting to understand the mind games and manipulation; there's no undoing that now. And if companies double down on these tactics, they're going to make their relationships with their employees even worse.
It's time for me to create the next big trendy word. I'll call it "quietly raging" it just means going to work and being pissed at your boss's stupid requests all day long
As someone who had worked at the same company for 30 years I 100% agree with you. You owe your employer nothing except giving them advance notice and dont burn bridges. They did not value my loyalty, so when the time was right I left on good terms. I regretted stay there for so long. Know your value!
I swear i have no idea how our economy is still going.... I had 7 interviews 3 days after I was laid off from my last job.. guess who got a job 2 weeks later... MAYBE I HAVE TO MAKE MONEY
I was "rage applying" 10 years ago when I had a shitty overnight stock jobs with toxic coworkers. Anytime we expressed concerns to the management, they would respond with, "If you don't like it, you can go somewhere else." There would be mornings where I would come home from a really bad night at work, grab some beers, trash talk the mouse in the trap, and apply for a dozen jobs. Finally landed one that pays me 3 times as much, has great coworkers and management, and actually rewards my work.
"You owe your employer a conversation." You mean like how some employees find out they've been let go through the "conversation" on Twitter or from a news article?
Exactly. You need to sit down and have a heart-to-heart with your employer if you're thinking of quitting, but if they need to let you go? They will coldly let you know via text/instant message, and will have the security guard walk you out with your stuff in a box.
"Conversation" is such a loaded and condescending red flag right now. It's usually one sided and in favor of the one in power.
Don't owe shit to your employer there was already an "equivalent exchange of value."
I tried building company loyalty... 8 years in a dev team as a designer. What I got, was no upgrade in importance of my position, lousy salary bump (and only because I was among programmers and they HAD to get raises because otherwise, the team would just dismantle), and more crappy things to do, without respecting my time (like cooperating with people who don't know anything and yet spending a lot of time on their projects whereas in big important projects, my voice was ignored). Now I am 3 years nearly in another company and the story repeats itself! Of course, I was doing my best in both jobs, at some point rethinking what I can do better, etc...
Why do all these business people suddenly need to make everything a trend? They need to stop. They sound so bogus.
job security.
@@hollyplyler9840 THEIRS, not yours
@@simonebernacchia5724 I thought that was implied.
It's vanity sometimes.
Do they have a bunch of monkeys throwing darts at a dart board with 2 separate words until they get one their handler likes and try to make a fake story about it?
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Does it matter when the end result is equally as dumb? The ends justify the means.
Working two full time, WFH jobs right now. new one gets me experience to move into even better jobs while I make a ton of money.
You're amazing. Saying what needs to be said. Also, the "no one wants to work anymore" has been happening since the beginning of work too. 😮
Did you ever notice that every single corpopolitical attack is the same two word adjective-noun combo? They gotta get simple phrases that mindless lemmings will repeat to each other. That’s what they think of us.
“Rage applying” really wasn’t even possible until the 90s, more like the 2000s. I used to have to walk my ass into every single building and sit there for a half an hour filling out a new application on the company’s own form. It took forever. Now you can blast out 15 applications in an hour online. That isn’t all bad.
After nearly 2 decades of paying attention to this type of stuff, I've noticed that the popular opinion of individuals on these types of clowns is almost always along the lines of "They're so out of touch". Given the length of time I've mentioned, I am of the opinion that they are actually NOT out of touch. On the contrary, I think these clowns DO know (and always have known) the issue with the labor force and that they just don't care.
Josh, you should make a fake "job trend" and see if you can get the media to pick up on it and make a story about it. Something really ridiculous
If everyone just stopped working, the system would break and the rich and evil would completely lose control. Just stop playing the game and you can't lose. What a concept.
I love how they assume workers don’t prepare slick answers to all those probing questions. It’s an interview, not a confessional.
“I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of obedient workers.”
- John D. Rockefeller
Key words: “I want”