Fine, I will CONSIDER doing a part 2 because it seems everyone wants it. But it ain't gonna be anywhere near this long. However the reason I don't like the idea of making a part 2 is because that would involve me building up the entire backstory for what has happened after New Vegas, and even then, I feel it wouldn't be much of a contest for the Enclave to win.
In order to make things out west a challenge for the Enclave. You could even the scales a little bit by having New Vegas end in an NCR victory, and then tweak the lore a bit to have them take control of the Big MTs technology and the silos in the divide (maybe even look into weapon applications for the cloud at the Sierra Madre?) If that’s not enough for them to be considered a challenge you could have them still have Courier #6 around and maybe even say they looked into getting Houses infrastructure back online and used the platinum chip. Just a thought of course I’m no writer.
Personally I agree with Eden. If the wasteland was purged than humanity wouldn't have to worry about mutants, raiders, rads, etc. Humanity would have an ACTUAL chance to rebuild.
@@spiffygonzales5899 it kills...anything with rads...that's literally like 95% of the population. Its almost as ludicrous as the plan by the enclave on the rig. It's very short term.
Just cuz we dont agree with the FEV plan Dosent mean everything else we do is acceptable The Enclave enslave as the "claim" land. The brotherhood claimed land as they work for the people, and the people support them. (And some military bases they just claim) Plus the Brotherhood formed as an opposition to the Enclave, a civilian/military faction to fight the old pre war military power
Col. Autumn's enclave was reformist. They wanted to just help people instead of killing everyone. The goal was to use Project Purity to sell water and bring people under the enclave. The Enclave and institute fighting makes sense.
the enclave would have totally been the good guys if the protagonists didnt exist, they would have to defeat the master seeing as the vault dweller wouldnt be around, despite also killing irradiated humans they would also beat all mutant life forms to extinction and go onto make the word habitable after defeating the brotherhood of steel, the institute among other groups way worse than them
Not mentioned in the video but The Pitt is a huge industrial plant, producing steel and other metals. This would have been incredibly useful for the Enclave for building settlements, vehicles, new weapons and power armor. After purging the raiders and freeing the slaves from the city and curing the Trog Disease. It could even go back to being a fully functioning city. Just something I thought of in the shower.
Colonel autum, a soldier's soldier, a patriot, and a man who served his country. May liberty prime rest in his tomb of glory peacefully. God bless the enclave, God bless America
The problem is that the Enclave is what everyone hates about present day American politics. Big corporations, big money, and a blind devotion to the government institutions. It's also a problem with the NCR if I understood New Vegas lore properly. "Crony capitalism" I believe is the term.
@@LucyWest370 Should logically be happening sometime in the future. Especially if Maxson's Brotherhood wins the Commonwealth War then expands out West to fully unite the whole Brotherhood from East to West. The NCR would see Maxson as a direct threat and target, Would be using their Artillery against the Prydwen and whatever other Aircrafts the BoS has. But the NCR itself should be heavily weakened because they either lost the Mojave Campaign or wasted too many resources maintaining control which turned the population of the Republic into majority Anti-War, Food shortages should be occurring soon if not already, Their gold backed economy was ruined or damaged by the BoS in the previous war while further harmed by the war efforts in California and the Mojave. Then the Legion and 80's would still be around at the least to cause harm at the border and at the most invading into the heartlands of the NCR...Either way causing a significant distraction for the BoS to take advantage of. Will we see any of this? Well we didn't see the first one at all. We may or may not see the West Coast again in a playable state. An NCR-BoS War could indeed be the premise and storyline of an entire game one with major consequences and impact. We could see the utter destruction of the BoS or NCR or both as possibilities. In short who knows but it'll be cool if we experienced it firsthand I'd love it myself. Also I think the Enclave and/or Remnants should come into play somehow be it supporting their own cause or choosing to work with old enemies to eradicate the other or deal with some unknown larger threat. We could get them to help the NCR before so anything is possible after all. Would be cool if we could cement the return of the Enclave with an official alliance and pardon of past crimes if they support one of the major factions...Leading to them reforming once again into a major faction themselves with a proper place in Wasteland Society.
That ending sounds like there might be a part 2. Would be pretty cool to see how the Enclave deal with the NCR and whatever state the Legion is in now.
I really hoped the eastern brotherhood of steel (not the outcasts) would work with the enclave. Since Col Autumn just wanted to be seen as the official american government in the wasteland. As long as Col Autumn does not have the mutie(wastelanders) prejudice which I think he doesn't have.
Ehh, I'm having a hard time picturing it. As much as the Brotherhood likes to play the good guy, they also like the power that comes with it. Plus their whole shtick is to prevent anyone from getting their hands on advanced technology to prevent the past from repeating itself. The Enclave just fits into their 'perfect enemy' scenario too perfectly. On top of that, the Brotherhood would also be a direct thorn in the Enclaves side that they wouldn't want sittting around as a potential uprising. I'd sooner see a non-aggression pact between Nazi Germany and the USSR.....wait.
Enclave are much preferred to degenerates like ceasar and the BOS. Really wish FO3 was pro enclave because even when I was a kid I seen them as a necessary thing
Fun fact about naval station Great Lakes from a Sailor of the USN: there aren’t any ships there. However, the command nexus of the navy is in Norfolk, Virginia. There are a lot of ships there
Yeah, I thought using it was a bit sketchy, but I really did want to include the Chicago outposts in the story. Oh well, we can say their navy was built up from the ships left at Norfolk.
Imagine still using FEV with its record of causing more problems than it's worth. This post was made by the Autumn's Enclave Gang. This actually got me thinking about what would happen if The Mojave Chapter of The Brotherhood was actually able to fend off Operation Sunburst and mount a substantial counter attack against Colonel Moore's Forces, maybe even taking camp mccarran or by some act of god the hoover dam itself. I guess that's an idea you can play with for a vid. An amazing Alternate History video as per usual. Edit: I know about HOIV's Old world blues, but I'd still like to see Omega's take on it.
The “Old World Blues” mod for Hearts or Iron IV (a Fallout themed mod) actually does a pretty good job of answering that. I don’t want to spoil anything but let’s just say that Elder Elijah, while absolutely brilliant, can end up digging too greedily and too deeply in his never ending quest for knowledge and release something out into the world that should’ve probably been left alone… This all said, it’s not the same thing as an Omega Initiative video but the Mojave Brotherhood storyline in that mod is still absolutely fantastic, well written, believable and very much worth a look if you enjoy grand strategy games. :)
@@Red0543 I've played The MC in OWB, but I think Omega might have a more interesting take on it. No offense to the mod, but it needs quite a bit of work with some factions.
Well, the defeat at Sunburst and the Mojave campaign in general is implied to be what screwed Elijah up as much as it did. He was nutty before, yeah, but there was still some semblance of humanity in him. Assuming the carnage and death doesn't happen, AND therefore Veronica's still around to be his surrogate grand-daughter, I could see him mellowing out enough to be a bit more ethical with his findings and research. He'd still be a technocratic leader of a military cult, it's not gonna be picturesque by any standard, but it might not be terrible compared to the state the region is already in. The biggest question is House. 95% odds they fight each other for supremacy and it gets just as bad, if not worse than the Mojave campaign in cannon, 5% odds they actually manage to consider each other peers and move forward together, I'd say. Depends on whether or not Veronica gets her dress.
I'm a bit sad that there was not an Eden redemption arc. In the game, you can actually convince him to put an end to his plan. President Eden may be quite ruthless but, from things like his speeches, you can tell that he is fighting for something he loves and is afraid that it might be lost forever without drastic measures. If only Autumn would have had the compassion to give him hope...
@@l3ossTweed They actually just ruined the Enclave by itself making it the big bad bully of capital wasteland while also making BoS saviours of basically everything in the world
Bruh, his personality is built from a glitch in his programming and also the biggest assholes of the Enclave like Richardson. His redemption arc would be resetting him to factory default so he can still help without the crazy.
@@TheOmegaInitiative His personality may be built from a glitch but he is more than capable of reason. He can apreciate logos, pathos and ethos. And, he has shown a willingness to change if put face to face with moral arguments.
Holy shit that was fantastic it felt like a summary for a future or spinoff fallout game. Really loved the concept and how it went. Especially when Autumns warcrimes was infamously acknowledge and him stepping down to his position knowing full well of the consequences he made.
Institute: i replaced a dude inorder to spy on his life and friends Enclave: my bosses studied a lot of stuff, but decided mass poising and murder would help benefit the future of America Institute: can we go to your Christmas party?
@@donovanulrich348 I mean not really the enclaves deathclaws aren't a far cry from the Gorillaz of the synthistute. The poison is kind of extreme but so is creating slaves then giving them sentience just so they can suffer. Also they just make super mutants and throw them into the wastes to see what happens. Also the whole eugenics thing. The institute is very into eugenics and "pure humans" realistically they could have just repaired the DNA for synths they just wanted pure humans.
Imagine if instead of the Brotherhood coming into Boston in FO4, it was the Enclave (assuming they won in FO3). I would love to see the Sole Survivor's reaction to the Enclave (and the NCR as well for that matter) with it being the last remnant of the original US government.
Enclave and ncr working together that be a interesting game .with a brief cutscenes showing enclave teaching ncr how to build sky scraper's and vertibirds among other aircraft.and even a small navy . saying something like a small part of America is almost a replica of pre war society hope and order. Now the battle for the rest of America and eventually the world begins.
@@thomas.parnell7365 NCR would never work with the Enclave. The NCR declared the Enclave as war criminals and have been hunting the west coast remnants for years.
@@Fulllife3.2 but do you think NCR working alone by itself could re invent or reverse engineer pre war technology within 100 years.to then achieve a pre war level society within 2 generations eventually going to space again.
This is beautiful, this could've been the canon ending honestly, we should've had the option to join the Enclave and help them in rebuilding the wasteland.
The best part is this wouldn't even have to be the end of fallout if this was the canon ending. We still have an entire unexplored post apocalyptic world out there outside of the core Eastern US. Whether it be the western US, Canada, Alaska, or even distant locations like Europe. NCR could still be a thing in parallel to the revived US. Honestly would be very cool. Edit: Denver with an underground bunker system would be a cool location.
As someone whose part of a small Enclave roleplay group in Fallout 76, I'm sad that the possibility of descendants of 76 Residents weren't really acknowledged as a possible pseudo-Enclave under MODUS control/command.
Chances are...part of the 76ers and secret services would become the enclave in that region. The secret services joining modus would be mutually beneficial.
If they actually take the lore from 76 seriously imagine in the future the enclave being a faction in a new game and you in the previous Game helped make
This is a what if Cuz Bethesda knows if the old world goverments could fail with their bullshit plans There is no way a smaller faction would work after the war, to may people know what that world was capable of
Loved the way you portrayed the institute. Of all the factions them and Caesar’s legion are definitely the most evil. They definitely deserved that nuke. Also damn institute always losing to liberty prime. Evil organization bent on world domination 0- giant nuclear bomb throwing robot 2
If only Bethesda would’ve let us side with the Enclave in fo3 like a simple speech check on your dad and Col. Autumn to change the outcome of escalating events of the game and the option to use a speech check on the brotherhood to make peace with the enclave and negotiate to work together for the betterment of humanity but I guess if they did and you were able to steer them down the right path Fallout would’ve ended and the Enclave would’ve reestablished old world law and order again under the American flag.
Honestly kind of sad this will never be the case in fallout but I like the brotherhood too so not all is lost. At least we have this video to imagine what it might have been like.
Considering how you have been in the wasteland, I mean you would be pure for a while, consdering you're a Vault Dweller. But in the time you've spent in the Capital Wasteland, you've probably been irradiated, and the Enclave does not like muties.
@@kenshinyang7375 That depends when the Enclave arrives to New Vegas. If the Enclave arrives pre-Hoover Dam, both factions will put up a struggle to deal with, while if it's post-Hoover Dam, the main issue is going to be House's Securitrons and remnants of the BoS.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 If the Enclave arrives pre-Hoover Dam, it's gonna have to kick the Legion's shit in first thing. Both the NCR and Legion would be eviscerated by the far higher quality Enclave armor, training, and weaponry.
@@commscan314 The thing with the Legion is that there are a LOT of them, and they're all basically cult-like slaves following Caesar's orders. They might not be as armed as the NCR was when they fought the Brotherhood, but the NCR has proven strength in numbers works. Of course, the Enclave have vertibirds at their disposal which most likely won't be shot down, but ground forces would be fighting a wall of people. The Enclave would no doubt win off of vertibirds alone, but it'd be a costly affair, especially considering what happened to their oil rig.
Alright. I like this. Good guy enclave scenario is what I've wanted, and I'm glad I got it. How good this Enclave is might be debatable, but I see this Enclave as a good faction.
I could actually picture the Institute doing something like this. To me they always seemed like the people who would want the wasteland in a lawless state because they would be able to preform their experiments without any interference so they would attempt to destroy or hinder any emerging nations.
@jackolson1758 I disagree. They want to continue to advance science. Humanity's survival outside of the researchers in the institute is inconsequential to them. However if a group were to form to such a degree to where it could impede the advancement of science they have a history of toppling it. Unless someone like the protag of fallout 4 takes over it is a unfeeling organization of science.
Hey this was great. The Institute part was really creepy. I think what scared me the most about it was that no other groups where mentioned in the commonwealth. No hostiles in sight. What happened to the Minutemen and the Railroad? What happened to the Sole Survivor? Where the Minutemen destroyed at the castle during the attack? Did the Railroad HQ get overrun? Not knowing what happened along with the idea of an empty commonwealth with just the Institute left is what scared me the most
To be honest the institute is the only faction that would stand a chance against the enclave is the institue the enclave aren't the brotherhood . Once they spot their enemies they go for the kill immediately and if they arrive to the commenwealth considering there is no brotherhood of steel it would be enclave vs institute also the enclave is way more secretive then the BOS
It'd be interesting to see what would happen if the institute had joined forces with the CPG. Imagine them replacing the crappy settlements like Tempines Bluff with Pre-fab buildings, opening schools for children (and lacing their food with newer, permanent versions of mentats) and equipping the minutemen with new combat droids and weapons. In a few decades they'd be a challenge even for the Enclave.
Some things I have seen within the Lore is that President Eden has had contact with some parts of the Institute with kahoots with Dr Zimmer, the head of the Synth Retention Bureau, he apparently ordered tests with FEV and later had a synth of himself go to the CW to 'search for an escaped synth' which is likely a cover for his replicant to deliver FEV so he could likely go to WV to work further with Enclave upper Brass. Likely the Institutes capability to essentially print a population lead to the furthering of the old plan to release a Bioweapon into the water since Eden can order the creation of a new populace and military force to occupy the Reclaimed America.
do you know how good you have to be at storytelling for me to cheer for a character i once hated is back? jesus christ i hated autumn when i’d play fallout 3 but goddamn did this story and the other one or two you wrote make love him. i was so happy he was back and happy to hear he had a good ending in this story
21:31 Soooo, you're just gonna not mention the (likely) monumental task of even getting the fleet to Lake Michigan? Wouldn't the locks of the St. Lawrence be a prime strategic target for Chinese missiles? And if not destroyed, what about the probably very angry french-speaking people whom are likely to control them? Not to mention actually traversing the lakes themselves, or the smaller locks that link them. Locks that likely would be too small for a full size aircraft carrier to fit through (though to be fair, I could see pre-war America either pressuring Canada into expanding their capacity, or doing it themselves post-annexation, for military purposes)
Shit if the Locks werent destroyed They would be trapped No law and order, but people still have boats and ships? Yeah someone would claim the dams and set up defenses and depth charges And even a fail safe to flood the dam if needed. That would set the Enclave back a month on a campaign minimum unless they wanted to give up advancing by water
Sorry, love the lore videos Hate the Enclave Eden made my skin crawl as a kid. All i herd on the radio was Hail Furrier. 😂😂🤦♂️🤷♂️ My mind was and is immune to propaganda
@@donovanulrich348 That's a dangerous mindset to have, no one is immune to propaganda. It's clear why you don't like Eden, because he is just evil, he's a poorly written malfunctioning machine, you're supposed to see through his propaganda.
A true writer here Was written amazing and love how you take the lore, take how ever much time you need for next one man I look forward to every video :)
I don't know how often you reply to comments, but I had a thought for you. What if Lyon's Brotherhood of Steel and Autumn's Enclave combined forces and reformed into a proper nation? Both are remnants that threw away their old loyalties and could have become something great, and I don't think that either really wanted a war with so many other threats around them. I know it's very unlikely, but it's an idea I had. Plus, it will be nice to have a timeline where the Lone Wanderer doesn't die.
I like how its implied that the vault 76 residents have disappeared or died out. Much like the playerbase which is dwindling due to Bethesda's apathetic behavior.
i see your point but this takes place after the events of fallout 3, about 200 years after the war ended and fallout 76 takes place around 20 (i think??) years after the war the vault was supposed to be empty; every single resident, including the overseer, left the vault, with the pioneer being the last to leave (no it's *not* a vault dweller, bethesda, we already have one!) by that point the residents/campers are long dead, with many of their descendants either residing in appalachia or migrated to the surrounding regions or even to other parts of the us, such as the midwest or even new vegas
I always thought that Nate from fallout four, since he’s a decorated war hero the enclave if they won, would’ve found him and let him live and serve in their military
This is frickin great. I love it. One of the Best alternativ ways for a game that could have been done. You deserve an Oscar for being such a great storyteller.
The biggest problem is you have Colonel Autumn executing the player. Like "canon". Thats completely fucking unnecessary and only happened because Butthesderp forgot to give the player motivation to hate the East Coast Enclave because its the computer that starts the genocide project back up. Also, FO3's Autumn, unless he was lying, wasn't openly genocidal towards non-super/ghoul mutants. Those who were close to mainline humans were good enough.
it's not made super clear in fallout 3 but the enclave's definition of "mutant" is pretty much everyone that isn't them. human wastelanders are lumped in because they're "unclean" due to radiation etc. in the previous games the enclave is an insular group, even starting to suffer from their lack of genetic diversity. it's made a little more clear in broken steel if you infect project purity with the modified FEV it kills regular human wastelanders too, not just mutants and mirelurks etc. there's a scripted event where one wastelander gives another "pure" water like you can outside megaton and rivet city and the dude keels over dead. the enclave makes it sound like they want to save the people of the wasteland but they're basically trying to get them out of their way so they can expand.
@@napatora"Its not made super clear" Because thats not how the East Coast Enclave operates. For whatever reason, they just simply do not operate like that. They never elucidate or explain any views WHATSOEVER that indicate that they had any plans for a bioweapon mass genocide like in Fallout 2. Only the ZAX President thing is trying to go ahead with it. If this wasn't the case, Colonel Autumn would be yelling it to the clouds what he plans to do, and more importantly, the ZAX would not go behind Autumn's back to attempt the genocide. You can blame poor writing if you want, the Doylist explanation, but there...just isn't anything there. It isn't there from either a Watsonian or Doylist perspective. Its not POORLY written, it was simply NOT written. At all. Aside from a Rogue AI possibly following outdated and illegitimate commands. The Bad Writing is that you can't join the Enclave and help re-establish Old World Society. Or that you aren't rewarded for annihilating the Outcasts, who are the only real villainous group with any background, because they are just cowardly deserters with no redeeming qualities. The terrible writing is not having the option of getting the Enclave and BoS to join forces. But hey. Its Butthesda. We buy the products as toys to customize, not games to actually play.
You do know the player's father was held at gunpoint and would have been shot at right? And he killed himself as a sacrifice to stop the Enclave from taling control of his own project. Having your father die because of someone, is gonna make you hate that someone.
It would have been great in Fallout 3 that the game gives you the freedom to choose sides either the Brotherhood of Steel or the Glorious Enclave. Like in Fallout New Vegas where you where given the options side with any of the 4 fractions.
Can't believe this video was only uploaded a few days ago! I was looking for stuff like this in order to build lore for a Stellaris Enclave playthrough where the Enclave succeed in establishing dominance over the US and go on to travel into space. Thank you for aiding in that with this video :) EDIT: Just finished watching the full video. Brilliant work, expertly written and told!
I would love to play something like this as an enclave recruit who chooses to either go against the enclave(the good karma option)or help them(the bad karma option).like imagine for the first mission you and the other enclave soldiers are in a vertibird and attacking GNR
Nice video, I usually dont like Bethesda lore but this was thought out really well. Have you ever considered doing a Legion victory TL or NCR victory TL?
@@kenshinyang7375 if their army of over 700,000 soliders isn’t enough with pure strength , the entire west coast+Vegas/Hoover dam and the other regions of Arizona not to mention a functional democratic system and functional currency, there’s a good chance they will win over the enclave hands down
They should have added an Enclave ending in Fallout 3 since it would have been fun to side with them, but I woulda split it into 2 "sub-endings" the player can choose: 1. Eden's Ending (aka the Super Evil Ending) - here you agree to work with Eden and fullfil his plan to poison the Potomac after securing the Purifier. Down the line you are eventually tasked to kill the Colonel since the President would have had enough of him opposing his actions. A sort of civil war would have happened and it would be your mission in the post ending period to take out concentrations of Autumn loyalists as a repeatable side quest. 2. Autumn's Ending (aka the Lesser Evil Ending) - you side with Autumn after proving yourself a bit during the battle for the Purifier (the reason you wouldn't be executed by the Colonel is because of Eden stepping in however). Autumn decides to bring you into his faction and you are eventually tasked to aid in the taking of Raven Rock since that entire facility was basically Eden's base. You then kill the President. Autumn declares himself the new leader of the Enclave and you are promoted as his successor as Colonel. Post game side quests would include killing off Brotherhood remnants.
Oh god I can only imagine if the player base was included in the invasion of Appalachia Autumn: what's going on!? *silence* Autumn: what do you mean a guy with a revolver is shooting bullets with the explosive mass of a missile while jumping 20 feet up and being nearly dead from radiation
This is some pretty great story telling, in just 15 minutes you managed to make the Institute a bigger and more realistic threat than Bethesda did with an entire game
Loved it! You never fail to make great quality videos. I too would love a sequel to this if you feel up to it. I am wondering what happened to the Sole Survivor and the Minute Men.
The Sole Survivor was probably killed once the Institute had a reliable means of producing Gen 3 Synths. The Minutemen would have died off in Concord without the Sole Survivor's help.
The sole survivor, granted that he became the General of the Minutemen, joined the enclave. Reporting for duty directly to General Autumn and revealed himself as a veteran of the Great War. In this story, the sole survivor brought with him non-synthetic humans and Minutemen survivors numbering by the thousands. They were exiled away from Boston by the Father as per request by the Sole Survivor. They started heading towards the West in Enclave held territory to seek help against the Institute. Given the sole survivor's pre-War knowledge, combat experience, knowledge about the Institute, and rank as the Minutemen General, he was given the position as the second most high ranking officer right next to General Autumn. Later on, he will be elected as Vice President as President Autumn's running mate. Man, the possibilities of having the Enclave as the go to faction. Only if Bethesda is not semi woke.
I feel like the Brotherhood in Appalachia would recruit the settlers in the south and destroy the raiders in the north. This would lead to the brotherhood putting up a big fight for the Enclave in 2284. The brotherhood would have eventually discovered the bunker and would blow open the vault door, destroying all the robots inside and using the past Enclaves equipment in the bunker to liberate Appalachia of the scorched plague. My theory is that Appalachia would be heavily controlled by the Brotherhood and that The Enclave would have to have some sort of recon teams go into the Silos and nuke all of the major settlements controlled by the brotherhood. I feel like the Charleston Capitol building would be the base of operations for the Brotherhood due to its strong infrastructure. My main point is that the Brotherhood would put up a way stronger fight in Appalachia since they would be very powerful in the region in 2284.
Great video, but there is a potential flaw about the aircraft carrier making its way to Chicago. There is the 33-40ish feet of metal hull that is under water with aircraft carriers. Are all the rivers deep enough for a carrier to make it through them to get to Chicago?
31:14 “1,000s of mile above DC”. The international space station is only 200 miles above the surface of the earth. These guys must have been aiming for the moon.
I wish that the factions with a legitimate chance at becoming a governing body got more attention in Fallout. I find factions like the Minutemen (even with how poorly they were done), enclave, and NCR more interesting because it shows the wasteland is slowly civilizing itself. People wouldn’t be raiders forever.
This was amazing it sucked me in entirely... very impressed with both your story telling and extensive knowledge of the fallout universe... also I love that you see the sum up ending music for fallout ... overall expertly done
I always felt that the enclave was done dirty by Bethesda. I hope the next fallout is good. I really hope that Microsoft steps in and forces them to play nice with obsidian.
Of all the things that went wrong in the Fallout universe, it was denying Autumn the water purifier, and delaying the recovery of North America for at least another couple centuries. But muh freedom. Muh Liberty Prime. Muh BoS. Its tragic, really.
I must say, I am impressed and I like your story telling a lot. I watched the House video first. Now this one. Making Autumn not look like a total a-hole? Nice. I really don't like Motus...I find him creepy. (Yes, I play/played 76) Poor Liberty Prime. He did do his duty, though. And the Institute being down right dangerous? About time. Your channel has a new subscriber. :)
Do you think you'd be able to do a video on how a Mr House-Brotherhood of Steel alliance might work? I would've thought they'd eventually end up as his private techno-army under one of his 'contracts', as without the brotherhoods morals the two seem to overlap in some areas. Either way its the NCR's worst nightmare lol. Love your videos btw.
I absolutely love this, it expands on the great things of the Enclave, and tells a very interesting story. Everything about it, from the characterization to the logic behind events unfolding, all of it is amazing. 9.5/10 video, good sir!
Fine, I will CONSIDER doing a part 2 because it seems everyone wants it. But it ain't gonna be anywhere near this long. However the reason I don't like the idea of making a part 2 is because that would involve me building up the entire backstory for what has happened after New Vegas, and even then, I feel it wouldn't be much of a contest for the Enclave to win.
You are the best story teller I’ve heard in a while
Thx man
In order to make things out west a challenge for the Enclave. You could even the scales a little bit by having New Vegas end in an NCR victory, and then tweak the lore a bit to have them take control of the Big MTs technology and the silos in the divide (maybe even look into weapon applications for the cloud at the Sierra Madre?) If that’s not enough for them to be considered a challenge you could have them still have Courier #6 around and maybe even say they looked into getting Houses infrastructure back online and used the platinum chip. Just a thought of course I’m no writer.
East Enclave fighting the Legion would be awesome story
man I just wanna hear more from you. idc how you do it or with what group!
even the master winning could be interesting
Imagine the Sole Survivor’s reaction upon leaving Vault 111 to the sight that greets him than what he canonically gets.
I was always disappointed that you couldn't side with col Autumn who was far less radical and you know...less evil than president Eden.
I still like the idea of a computer playing president
Personally I agree with Eden. If the wasteland was purged than humanity wouldn't have to worry about mutants, raiders, rads, etc.
Humanity would have an ACTUAL chance to rebuild.
@@spiffygonzales5899 it kills...anything with rads...that's literally like 95% of the population. Its almost as ludicrous as the plan by the enclave on the rig. It's very short term.
@@spiffygonzales5899 But it also shrinks the gene pool and we all know what happened to the Habsburgs.
@@spiffygonzales5899 But it also shrinks the gene pool and we all know what happened to the Habsburgs.
Rest Easy, Liberty Prime. A true Patriot and Hero.
He truly was an American Patriot.
Yes i also miss Liberal pride, may he rest in peace
There have been few truer. He was more stuborn than a 101st airborne unit, and more patriotic than mag dumping an M134 on the fourth of July.
a real cybernetic bean. and a real hero.
God Bless America and No one else! 🇺🇲
Yeah. The Enclave turning into somewhat good guys and The Institute taking them on makes a lot of sense.
Just cuz we dont agree with the FEV plan
Dosent mean everything else we do is acceptable
The Enclave enslave as the "claim" land. The brotherhood claimed land as they work for the people, and the people support them. (And some military bases they just claim)
Plus the Brotherhood formed as an opposition to the Enclave, a civilian/military faction to fight the old pre war military power
@@donovanulrich348 Well also in Fallout 3, the fucking AI was the problem. The Enclave just wanted to sell the water and establish their currency
Col. Autumn's enclave was reformist. They wanted to just help people instead of killing everyone. The goal was to use Project Purity to sell water and bring people under the enclave. The Enclave and institute fighting makes sense.
@@donovanulrich348 How do they enslave? What evidence do you have for that?
the enclave would have totally been the good guys if the protagonists didnt exist, they would have to defeat the master seeing as the vault dweller wouldnt be around, despite also killing irradiated humans they would also beat all mutant life forms to extinction and go onto make the word habitable after defeating the brotherhood of steel, the institute among other groups way worse than them
Not mentioned in the video but The Pitt is a huge industrial plant, producing steel and other metals. This would have been incredibly useful for the Enclave for building settlements, vehicles, new weapons and power armor. After purging the raiders and freeing the slaves from the city and curing the Trog Disease. It could even go back to being a fully functioning city.
Just something I thought of in the shower.
yes, "freeing" the slaves. as in freeing them of their mortal bodies, maybe. that's quite an optimistic view of the enclave lol
@@napatora YOU DARE INSULT THE ALL MIGHTY ENCLAVE, you'll be the first
Lmeo
No really… The Enclave has a huge issue with slavers…
Too stinky
Colonel autum, a soldier's soldier, a patriot, and a man who served his country. May liberty prime rest in his tomb of glory peacefully. God bless the enclave, God bless America
Tecnecly, liberty prime is enclave, DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM
The problem is that the Enclave is what everyone hates about present day American politics. Big corporations, big money, and a blind devotion to the government institutions. It's also a problem with the NCR if I understood New Vegas lore properly. "Crony capitalism" I believe is the term.
Yeah, and fallout is a game based in satire
@@rebelliousgrayfox go tell tht to Sgt Dornan
@@michaela2634 legion is a dumpster fire. Followers of the apocalypse are underrated
You see, this makes so much more sense than the BOS winning. It would set up a perfect NCR v Enclave 2.0 rematch War
sacred war intense
Uhmm NCR are more likely to be stopped by themselves than the Enclave.
@@paradropgeneral4397 *Over There intensifies*
What about an NCR v BOS 2.0 war?
@@LucyWest370 Should logically be happening sometime in the future. Especially if Maxson's Brotherhood wins the Commonwealth War then expands out West to fully unite the whole Brotherhood from East to West. The NCR would see Maxson as a direct threat and target, Would be using their Artillery against the Prydwen and whatever other Aircrafts the BoS has. But the NCR itself should be heavily weakened because they either lost the Mojave Campaign or wasted too many resources maintaining control which turned the population of the Republic into majority Anti-War, Food shortages should be occurring soon if not already, Their gold backed economy was ruined or damaged by the BoS in the previous war while further harmed by the war efforts in California and the Mojave. Then the Legion and 80's would still be around at the least to cause harm at the border and at the most invading into the heartlands of the NCR...Either way causing a significant distraction for the BoS to take advantage of.
Will we see any of this? Well we didn't see the first one at all. We may or may not see the West Coast again in a playable state. An NCR-BoS War could indeed be the premise and storyline of an entire game one with major consequences and impact. We could see the utter destruction of the BoS or NCR or both as possibilities. In short who knows but it'll be cool if we experienced it firsthand I'd love it myself.
Also I think the Enclave and/or Remnants should come into play somehow be it supporting their own cause or choosing to work with old enemies to eradicate the other or deal with some unknown larger threat. We could get them to help the NCR before so anything is possible after all. Would be cool if we could cement the return of the Enclave with an official alliance and pardon of past crimes if they support one of the major factions...Leading to them reforming once again into a major faction themselves with a proper place in Wasteland Society.
That ending sounds like there might be a part 2. Would be pretty cool to see how the Enclave deal with the NCR and whatever state the Legion is in now.
Nope nope nope nope
@@TheOmegaInitiative pretty please
@@TheOmegaInitiative why not man ):
@@TheOmegaInitiative c'mon man
@@TheOmegaInitiative Not even for ehat they did at Navarro?
Enclave when they destroyed Liberty Prime:
*I’m sorry “little” one*
I really hoped the eastern brotherhood of steel (not the outcasts) would work with the enclave. Since Col Autumn just wanted to be seen as the official american government in the wasteland. As long as Col Autumn does not have the mutie(wastelanders) prejudice which I think he doesn't have.
Well, some of them did, but it's almost impossible to get the entire organization to because they'll always be the hardcore believers.
@@TheOmegaInitiative I almost forgot that part of them is being fanatic. This was a very great and fantastic video.
Ehh, I'm having a hard time picturing it. As much as the Brotherhood likes to play the good guy, they also like the power that comes with it. Plus their whole shtick is to prevent anyone from getting their hands on advanced technology to prevent the past from repeating itself. The Enclave just fits into their 'perfect enemy' scenario too perfectly. On top of that, the Brotherhood would also be a direct thorn in the Enclaves side that they wouldn't want sittting around as a potential uprising. I'd sooner see a non-aggression pact between Nazi Germany and the USSR.....wait.
Enclave wouldn't recruit the progeny of deserters, they're too fashy for that
Enclave are much preferred to degenerates like ceasar and the BOS. Really wish FO3 was pro enclave because even when I was a kid I seen them as a necessary thing
Fun fact about naval station Great Lakes from a Sailor of the USN: there aren’t any ships there.
However, the command nexus of the navy is in Norfolk, Virginia. There are a lot of ships there
Yeah, I thought using it was a bit sketchy, but I really did want to include the Chicago outposts in the story. Oh well, we can say their navy was built up from the ships left at Norfolk.
Also, how would an aircraft carrier get from D.C. to Chicago?
@@tostadatheviking7828 it’s fallout they probably dredged the Saint Lawrence and the niagara
@@tostadatheviking7828 sail it up the Mississippi River 😂
Imagine still using FEV with its record of causing more problems than it's worth.
This post was made by the Autumn's Enclave Gang.
This actually got me thinking about what would happen if The Mojave Chapter of The Brotherhood was actually able to fend off Operation Sunburst and mount a substantial counter attack against Colonel Moore's Forces, maybe even taking camp mccarran or by some act of god the hoover dam itself.
I guess that's an idea you can play with for a vid.
An amazing Alternate History video as per usual.
Edit: I know about HOIV's Old world blues, but I'd still like to see Omega's take on it.
The “Old World Blues” mod for Hearts or Iron IV (a Fallout themed mod) actually does a pretty good job of answering that. I don’t want to spoil anything but let’s just say that Elder Elijah, while absolutely brilliant, can end up digging too greedily and too deeply in his never ending quest for knowledge and release something out into the world that should’ve probably been left alone…
This all said, it’s not the same thing as an Omega Initiative video but the Mojave Brotherhood storyline in that mod is still absolutely fantastic, well written, believable and very much worth a look if you enjoy grand strategy games. :)
@@Red0543 I've played The MC in OWB, but I think Omega might have a more interesting take on it. No offense to the mod, but it needs quite a bit of work with some factions.
Well, the defeat at Sunburst and the Mojave campaign in general is implied to be what screwed Elijah up as much as it did. He was nutty before, yeah, but there was still some semblance of humanity in him. Assuming the carnage and death doesn't happen, AND therefore Veronica's still around to be his surrogate grand-daughter, I could see him mellowing out enough to be a bit more ethical with his findings and research. He'd still be a technocratic leader of a military cult, it's not gonna be picturesque by any standard, but it might not be terrible compared to the state the region is already in.
The biggest question is House. 95% odds they fight each other for supremacy and it gets just as bad, if not worse than the Mojave campaign in cannon, 5% odds they actually manage to consider each other peers and move forward together, I'd say. Depends on whether or not Veronica gets her dress.
@@internetxxx_pl0r3r_xxx77 true. Knowing Elijah's god complex, though... Well... Yeah.
@@sirosagaming8228 Perhaps the change would be if Elijah wasn't the Elder during that time
I'm a bit sad that there was not an Eden redemption arc. In the game, you can actually convince him to put an end to his plan. President Eden may be quite ruthless but, from things like his speeches, you can tell that he is fighting for something he loves and is afraid that it might be lost forever without drastic measures. If only Autumn would have had the compassion to give him hope...
This. JHE is such an interesting character with a lot of potential, but Bethesda's writing failed him in the final act.
@@l3ossTweed They actually just ruined the Enclave by itself making it the big bad bully of capital wasteland while also making BoS saviours of basically everything in the world
@@countrygeneral That too. I'd love for a game to give us a more nuanced take on the Enclave.
Bruh, his personality is built from a glitch in his programming and also the biggest assholes of the Enclave like Richardson. His redemption arc would be resetting him to factory default so he can still help without the crazy.
@@TheOmegaInitiative His personality may be built from a glitch but he is more than capable of reason. He can apreciate logos, pathos and ethos. And, he has shown a willingness to change if put face to face with moral arguments.
Fo3 tries very hard at making you hate Autumn but behind the scenes he is arguably the best man the Enclave has
Holy shit that was fantastic it felt like a summary for a future or spinoff fallout game. Really loved the concept and how it went. Especially when Autumns warcrimes was infamously acknowledge and him stepping down to his position knowing full well of the consequences he made.
softie ending for the enclave, the fallout 2 one was alot better
@@balticbvll2987 I wouldn't say soft, but I do like the Fallout 2 version better.
@@TheOmegaInitiative i mean it was very generous for the enclave to become nice to tribals in that quick a time, nice vid tho
@@balticbvll2987 ofc badass ur times over mutie is always cool.
@@balticbvll2987 This is different Enclave you are talking about then in Oil Rig mate.
Synths are scary if you use them smartly and attack during the mass panic you cause
pain in the arse
So much effort put into these videos its literally so much fun just to listen, great work dude
Thank you very much
Absolutely delightful listen.
The institute-enclave war was the cherry on top- nothing I love more than when two series antagonists duke it out!
Now all we need is the legion to get rolled and America is back
@@waffleblitzkrieg1765 and the NCR
I find it hard to believe
The institute would want to be the Enclaves privet scientific team
The Enclave do crazier shit then the institute
Institute: i replaced a dude inorder to spy on his life and friends
Enclave: my bosses studied a lot of stuff, but decided mass poising and murder would help benefit the future of America
Institute: can we go to your Christmas party?
@@donovanulrich348 I mean not really the enclaves deathclaws aren't a far cry from the Gorillaz of the synthistute. The poison is kind of extreme but so is creating slaves then giving them sentience just so they can suffer. Also they just make super mutants and throw them into the wastes to see what happens. Also the whole eugenics thing. The institute is very into eugenics and "pure humans" realistically they could have just repaired the DNA for synths they just wanted pure humans.
Imagine if instead of the Brotherhood coming into Boston in FO4, it was the Enclave (assuming they won in FO3). I would love to see the Sole Survivor's reaction to the Enclave (and the NCR as well for that matter) with it being the last remnant of the original US government.
Enclave and ncr working together that be a interesting game .with a brief cutscenes showing enclave teaching ncr how to build sky scraper's and vertibirds among other aircraft.and even a small navy . saying something like a small part of America is almost a replica of pre war society hope and order.
Now the battle for the rest of America and eventually the world begins.
there is a pretty alright fanfic of that, called Autumn Morning.
@@thomas.parnell7365 NCR would never work with the Enclave. The NCR declared the Enclave as war criminals and have been hunting the west coast remnants for years.
@@Fulllife3.2 but do you think NCR working alone by itself could re invent or reverse engineer pre war technology within 100 years.to then achieve a pre war level society within 2 generations eventually going to space again.
I would buy that game immediately also we could possibly see enclave vs institute
This is beautiful, this could've been the canon ending honestly, we should've had the option to join the Enclave and help them in rebuilding the wasteland.
The best part is this wouldn't even have to be the end of fallout if this was the canon ending. We still have an entire unexplored post apocalyptic world out there outside of the core Eastern US. Whether it be the western US, Canada, Alaska, or even distant locations like Europe. NCR could still be a thing in parallel to the revived US. Honestly would be very cool.
Edit: Denver with an underground bunker system would be a cool location.
As someone whose part of a small Enclave roleplay group in Fallout 76, I'm sad that the possibility of descendants of 76 Residents weren't really acknowledged as a possible pseudo-Enclave under MODUS control/command.
Chances are...part of the 76ers and secret services would become the enclave in that region. The secret services joining modus would be mutually beneficial.
If they actually take the lore from 76 seriously imagine in the future the enclave being a faction in a new game and you in the previous Game helped make
This is always a great channel to watch
God bless the Enclave
This is a what if
Cuz Bethesda knows if the old world goverments could fail with their bullshit plans
There is no way a smaller faction would work after the war, to may people know what that world was capable of
Long live the enclave
God Bless joe mama
@@Franco.Tarantula long live joe mama
@@Comrade-George-ep4nd i hope so😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣
Loved the way you portrayed the institute. Of all the factions them and Caesar’s legion are definitely the most evil. They definitely deserved that nuke. Also damn institute always losing to liberty prime. Evil organization bent on world domination 0- giant nuclear bomb throwing robot 2
If only Bethesda would’ve let us side with the Enclave in fo3 like a simple speech check on your dad and Col. Autumn to change the outcome of escalating events of the game and the option to use a speech check on the brotherhood to make peace with the enclave and negotiate to work together for the betterment of humanity but I guess if they did and you were able to steer them down the right path Fallout would’ve ended and the Enclave would’ve reestablished old world law and order again under the American flag.
Honestly kind of sad this will never be the case in fallout but I like the brotherhood too so not all is lost. At least we have this video to imagine what it might have been like.
Imo Bethesda are really talented when they really need to be. But sometimes built up to Bethesda's written stories just stumbles on their own foot.
could be a non-cannon ending
@@gameingtothemax6266 it should’ve been a non cannon playable option like how you can join the legion in New Vegas.
Considering how you have been in the wasteland, I mean you would be pure for a while, consdering you're a Vault Dweller. But in the time you've spent in the Capital Wasteland, you've probably been irradiated, and the Enclave does not like muties.
If President Eden won, we would have stable supply of drinking water and baseball. Can you imagine a Minuteman team headed by Preston Garvey?
"There's a base that need you running there, I'll mark it on your map"
One thing to point out is that foundation and crater would be massive settlements if not small cities by the time enclave arrived in Appalachia
"Armies of the west" based on what we know about the legion and NCR, they would be like small pests to the massive might that is the enclave.
Probably
NCR is going to be easy while legion is going to be very hard.
@@kenshinyang7375 That depends when the Enclave arrives to New Vegas. If the Enclave arrives pre-Hoover Dam, both factions will put up a struggle to deal with, while if it's post-Hoover Dam, the main issue is going to be House's Securitrons and remnants of the BoS.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 If the Enclave arrives pre-Hoover Dam, it's gonna have to kick the Legion's shit in first thing. Both the NCR and Legion would be eviscerated by the far higher quality Enclave armor, training, and weaponry.
@@commscan314 The thing with the Legion is that there are a LOT of them, and they're all basically cult-like slaves following Caesar's orders. They might not be as armed as the NCR was when they fought the Brotherhood, but the NCR has proven strength in numbers works. Of course, the Enclave have vertibirds at their disposal which most likely won't be shot down, but ground forces would be fighting a wall of people. The Enclave would no doubt win off of vertibirds alone, but it'd be a costly affair, especially considering what happened to their oil rig.
Alright. I like this. Good guy enclave scenario is what I've wanted, and I'm glad I got it. How good this Enclave is might be debatable, but I see this Enclave as a good faction.
I haven't watched it yet but just reading the title I want to say: "I love you."
God bless the Enclave.
Ummmm... I think we should just be friends
lol rejected
@@russianbee4973 ouch
@@TheOmegaInitiative WOW rude
@@EnclaveEmily Sorry I don't play World Of Warcraft, so I don't know what you're talking about
I could actually picture the Institute doing something like this. To me they always seemed like the people who would want the wasteland in a lawless state because they would be able to preform their experiments without any interference so they would attempt to destroy or hinder any emerging nations.
The east coast big mt
I think that the institute genuinely wants humanity to survive
And that's why I destroyed the institute
@jackolson1758 I disagree. They want to continue to advance science. Humanity's survival outside of the researchers in the institute is inconsequential to them. However if a group were to form to such a degree to where it could impede the advancement of science they have a history of toppling it. Unless someone like the protag of fallout 4 takes over it is a unfeeling organization of science.
Hey this was great. The Institute part was really creepy. I think what scared me the most about it was that no other groups where mentioned in the commonwealth. No hostiles in sight. What happened to the Minutemen and the Railroad? What happened to the Sole Survivor? Where the Minutemen destroyed at the castle during the attack? Did the Railroad HQ get overrun? Not knowing what happened along with the idea of an empty commonwealth with just the Institute left is what scared me the most
To be honest the institute is the only faction that would stand a chance against the enclave is the institue the enclave aren't the brotherhood . Once they spot their enemies they go for the kill immediately and if they arrive to the commenwealth considering there is no brotherhood of steel it would be enclave vs institute also the enclave is way more secretive then the BOS
It'd be interesting to see what would happen if the institute had joined forces with the CPG. Imagine them replacing the crappy settlements like Tempines Bluff with Pre-fab buildings, opening schools for children (and lacing their food with newer, permanent versions of mentats) and equipping the minutemen with new combat droids and weapons. In a few decades they'd be a challenge even for the Enclave.
I never thought their could be a good ending for the enclave but you found it.
Some things I have seen within the Lore is that President Eden has had contact with some parts of the Institute with kahoots with Dr Zimmer, the head of the Synth Retention Bureau, he apparently ordered tests with FEV and later had a synth of himself go to the CW to 'search for an escaped synth' which is likely a cover for his replicant to deliver FEV so he could likely go to WV to work further with Enclave upper Brass.
Likely the Institutes capability to essentially print a population lead to the furthering of the old plan to release a Bioweapon into the water since Eden can order the creation of a new populace and military force to occupy the Reclaimed America.
A synthetic population to populate the new america
"president eden has had contact with some parts of the institute"
hold up
where did you find that information
do you know how good you have to be at storytelling for me to cheer for a character i once hated is back? jesus christ i hated autumn when i’d play fallout 3 but goddamn did this story and the other one or two you wrote make love him. i was so happy he was back and happy to hear he had a good ending in this story
Wow. Great video! You also honestly made the Institute and synths more terrifying than how they were portrayed in Fallout 4.
The Synth part was absolutely terrifying. Thanks for making this amazing content! Keep it up!
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Soooo, you're just gonna not mention the (likely) monumental task of even getting the fleet to Lake Michigan? Wouldn't the locks of the St. Lawrence be a prime strategic target for Chinese missiles? And if not destroyed, what about the probably very angry french-speaking people whom are likely to control them? Not to mention actually traversing the lakes themselves, or the smaller locks that link them. Locks that likely would be too small for a full size aircraft carrier to fit through (though to be fair, I could see pre-war America either pressuring Canada into expanding their capacity, or doing it themselves post-annexation, for military purposes)
No clue, the Enclave shouldn't have much trouble from wastelanders, but maybe they brought along the engineering corps to repair the locks.
Shit if the Locks werent destroyed
They would be trapped
No law and order, but people still have boats and ships?
Yeah someone would claim the dams and set up defenses and depth charges
And even a fail safe to flood the dam if needed.
That would set the Enclave back a month on a campaign minimum unless they wanted to give up advancing by water
Sorry, love the lore videos
Hate the Enclave
Eden made my skin crawl as a kid. All i herd on the radio was Hail Furrier. 😂😂🤦♂️🤷♂️ My mind was and is immune to propaganda
@@donovanulrich348 That's a dangerous mindset to have, no one is immune to propaganda. It's clear why you don't like Eden, because he is just evil, he's a poorly written malfunctioning machine, you're supposed to see through his propaganda.
@@donovanulrich348 what the fuck drugs are u on
A true writer here
Was written amazing and love how you take the lore, take how ever much time you need for next one man I look forward to every video :)
Talon Company Mercs: we're not going to do more contracts for you, we keep dying.
Enclave: damn, *loads plasma rifles* guess your usefulness is up.
I don't know how often you reply to comments, but I had a thought for you. What if Lyon's Brotherhood of Steel and Autumn's Enclave combined forces and reformed into a proper nation? Both are remnants that threw away their old loyalties and could have become something great, and I don't think that either really wanted a war with so many other threats around them. I know it's very unlikely, but it's an idea I had. Plus, it will be nice to have a timeline where the Lone Wanderer doesn't die.
Don't do that, don't give me hope.
I’m soooo glad I found your channel, I just love the story’s that you create!❤️❤️❤️
Same! Ive watched these like 10 times each. Probably 20 or 30 times for the enclave wins fallout 2 videos
@@austinkopp4715 Woah, slow down there buddy
@@TheOmegaInitiative i just love watchin them whilw i play games man. Im im trust me;)
I like how its implied that the vault 76 residents have disappeared or died out. Much like the playerbase which is dwindling due to Bethesda's apathetic behavior.
Oof
i see your point
but this takes place after the events of fallout 3, about 200 years after the war ended and fallout 76 takes place around 20 (i think??) years after the war
the vault was supposed to be empty; every single resident, including the overseer, left the vault, with the pioneer being the last to leave (no it's *not* a vault dweller, bethesda, we already have one!)
by that point the residents/campers are long dead, with many of their descendants either residing in appalachia or migrated to the surrounding regions or even to other parts of the us, such as the midwest or even new vegas
I always thought that Nate from fallout four, since he’s a decorated war hero the enclave if they won, would’ve found him and let him live and serve in their military
This is frickin great. I love it.
One of the Best alternativ ways for a game that could have been done.
You deserve an Oscar for being such a great storyteller.
The biggest problem is you have Colonel Autumn executing the player. Like "canon". Thats completely fucking unnecessary and only happened because Butthesderp forgot to give the player motivation to hate the East Coast Enclave because its the computer that starts the genocide project back up. Also, FO3's Autumn, unless he was lying, wasn't openly genocidal towards non-super/ghoul mutants. Those who were close to mainline humans were good enough.
it's not made super clear in fallout 3 but the enclave's definition of "mutant" is pretty much everyone that isn't them. human wastelanders are lumped in because they're "unclean" due to radiation etc. in the previous games the enclave is an insular group, even starting to suffer from their lack of genetic diversity.
it's made a little more clear in broken steel if you infect project purity with the modified FEV it kills regular human wastelanders too, not just mutants and mirelurks etc. there's a scripted event where one wastelander gives another "pure" water like you can outside megaton and rivet city and the dude keels over dead. the enclave makes it sound like they want to save the people of the wasteland but they're basically trying to get them out of their way so they can expand.
@@napatora"Its not made super clear" Because thats not how the East Coast Enclave operates. For whatever reason, they just simply do not operate like that. They never elucidate or explain any views WHATSOEVER that indicate that they had any plans for a bioweapon mass genocide like in Fallout 2. Only the ZAX President thing is trying to go ahead with it.
If this wasn't the case, Colonel Autumn would be yelling it to the clouds what he plans to do, and more importantly, the ZAX would not go behind Autumn's back to attempt the genocide.
You can blame poor writing if you want, the Doylist explanation, but there...just isn't anything there. It isn't there from either a Watsonian or Doylist perspective. Its not POORLY written, it was simply NOT written. At all. Aside from a Rogue AI possibly following outdated and illegitimate commands.
The Bad Writing is that you can't join the Enclave and help re-establish Old World Society. Or that you aren't rewarded for annihilating the Outcasts, who are the only real villainous group with any background, because they are just cowardly deserters with no redeeming qualities.
The terrible writing is not having the option of getting the Enclave and BoS to join forces. But hey. Its Butthesda. We buy the products as toys to customize, not games to actually play.
You do know the player's father was held at gunpoint and would have been shot at right? And he killed himself as a sacrifice to stop the Enclave from taling control of his own project.
Having your father die because of someone, is gonna make you hate that someone.
He can be convinced that he has no right if you wish.
@@CursedPR honestly I only wanted to kill Autumn couldn't care less about killing enclave but the bastards didn't give me a choice.
It would have been great in Fallout 3 that the game gives you the freedom to choose sides either the Brotherhood of Steel or the Glorious Enclave. Like in Fallout New Vegas where you where given the options side with any of the 4 fractions.
Your alternate history Fallout videos are just absolutely superb!
Amazing video!
Can't believe this video was only uploaded a few days ago! I was looking for stuff like this in order to build lore for a Stellaris Enclave playthrough where the Enclave succeed in establishing dominance over the US and go on to travel into space. Thank you for aiding in that with this video :)
EDIT: Just finished watching the full video. Brilliant work, expertly written and told!
Last time I was this early, the Enclave still had the rig
I would love to play something like this as an enclave recruit who chooses to either go against the enclave(the good karma option)or help them(the bad karma option).like imagine for the first mission you and the other enclave soldiers are in a vertibird and attacking GNR
This is by far one of the best Fallout story video I've ever watched. I straight up scream joy when I heard liberty prime
Nice video, I usually dont like Bethesda lore but this was thought out really well. Have you ever considered doing a Legion victory TL or NCR victory TL?
No, I haven't thought about covering either
@@TheOmegaInitiative I reckon the NCR would be super cool as they have the best chance of securing the US out of all the fallout faction imo
@@pewsepticplier9922 I doubt that.
@@pewsepticplier9922 Enclave: Am I a joke to you?
@@kenshinyang7375 if their army of over 700,000 soliders isn’t enough with pure strength , the entire west coast+Vegas/Hoover dam and the other regions of Arizona not to mention a functional democratic system and functional currency, there’s a good chance they will win over the enclave hands down
dude your writing on the institute infiltration is amazing.
They should have added an Enclave ending in Fallout 3 since it would have been fun to side with them, but I woulda split it into 2 "sub-endings" the player can choose:
1. Eden's Ending (aka the Super Evil Ending) - here you agree to work with Eden and fullfil his plan to poison the Potomac after securing the Purifier. Down the line you are eventually tasked to kill the Colonel since the President would have had enough of him opposing his actions. A sort of civil war would have happened and it would be your mission in the post ending period to take out concentrations of Autumn loyalists as a repeatable side quest.
2. Autumn's Ending (aka the Lesser Evil Ending) - you side with Autumn after proving yourself a bit during the battle for the Purifier (the reason you wouldn't be executed by the Colonel is because of Eden stepping in however). Autumn decides to bring you into his faction and you are eventually tasked to aid in the taking of Raven Rock since that entire facility was basically Eden's base. You then kill the President. Autumn declares himself the new leader of the Enclave and you are promoted as his successor as Colonel. Post game side quests would include killing off Brotherhood remnants.
Oh god I can only imagine if the player base was included in the invasion of Appalachia
Autumn: what's going on!?
*silence*
Autumn: what do you mean a guy with a revolver is shooting bullets with the explosive mass of a missile while jumping 20 feet up and being nearly dead from radiation
This is some pretty great story telling, in just 15 minutes you managed to make the Institute a bigger and more realistic threat than Bethesda did with an entire game
These stories are so well put together. Literally never stop as these are so good
Definitely the most anticipated scenario for me, and it certainly didn't disappoint. Excellent video as always dude.
this version of enclave history is more interesting than anything todd could come up with
may Liberty Prime rest in peace may Colonel Autumn rest in peace, god bless the Enclave and god bless America
Loved it! You never fail to make great quality videos. I too would love a sequel to this if you feel up to it. I am wondering what happened to the Sole Survivor and the Minute Men.
The Sole Survivor was probably killed once the Institute had a reliable means of producing Gen 3 Synths. The Minutemen would have died off in Concord without the Sole Survivor's help.
The sole survivor, granted that he became the General of the Minutemen, joined the enclave. Reporting for duty directly to General Autumn and revealed himself as a veteran of the Great War. In this story, the sole survivor brought with him non-synthetic humans and Minutemen survivors numbering by the thousands. They were exiled away from Boston by the Father as per request by the Sole Survivor. They started heading towards the West in Enclave held territory to seek help against the Institute. Given the sole survivor's pre-War knowledge, combat experience, knowledge about the Institute, and rank as the Minutemen General, he was given the position as the second most high ranking officer right next to General Autumn. Later on, he will be elected as Vice President as President Autumn's running mate.
Man, the possibilities of having the Enclave as the go to faction. Only if Bethesda is not semi woke.
God, I wish we could have had this timeline in-game.
I feel like the Brotherhood in Appalachia would recruit the settlers in the south and destroy the raiders in the north. This would lead to the brotherhood putting up a big fight for the Enclave in 2284. The brotherhood would have eventually discovered the bunker and would blow open the vault door, destroying all the robots inside and using the past Enclaves equipment in the bunker to liberate Appalachia of the scorched plague. My theory is that Appalachia would be heavily controlled by the Brotherhood and that The Enclave would have to have some sort of recon teams go into the Silos and nuke all of the major settlements controlled by the brotherhood. I feel like the Charleston Capitol building would be the base of operations for the Brotherhood due to its strong infrastructure. My main point is that the Brotherhood would put up a way stronger fight in Appalachia since they would be very powerful in the region in 2284.
I hope the Enclave has a presence in the next Fallout game. Hopefully it'll be something situated in what remains of Texas or Florida.
Oh god imagine the alligators
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Bro this was so dope! I could imagine how great this could've been.
I would love to play with the enclave in fallout 3
Without being exterminated
Mods and console commands
Great video! Would love to see a part two, or another Enclave story in general
Not sure about a part 2
Great video as always. I especially loved the mimicri in the end to the ending slides of the actual games!
I was so annoyed you couldn’t work with Autumn. As ultimately he was less extreme and genuinely believed in helping humanity
Seems like it always has to end in a nuclear silo for Autumn.
Well at least he didn't die this time
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Holy crap, this content is the most amazing I ever watched you should be given a medal or something. All that hard work is worth it.
I really hope there is going to be a part 2, I’m enjoying this
Maybe
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Great video, but there is a potential flaw about the aircraft carrier making its way to Chicago. There is the 33-40ish feet of metal hull that is under water with aircraft carriers. Are all the rivers deep enough for a carrier to make it through them to get to Chicago?
Remarkable dude holy shit your videos genuinely make me happy
That's amazing, I did not think that would be a reaction to this video
I've been waiting for this and I can't believe it's out thanks man
nicely done! Let’s hope to see a part 2 for the West Coast. 😏
Back again with another fantastic video. We love these! Thank you so much 💪🏻
31:14 “1,000s of mile above DC”. The international space station is only 200 miles above the surface of the earth. These guys must have been aiming for the moon.
Mmm, that would be feet then
I wish that the factions with a legitimate chance at becoming a governing body got more attention in Fallout. I find factions like the Minutemen (even with how poorly they were done), enclave, and NCR more interesting because it shows the wasteland is slowly civilizing itself. People wouldn’t be raiders forever.
This was amazing it sucked me in entirely... very impressed with both your story telling and extensive knowledge of the fallout universe... also I love that you see the sum up ending music for fallout ... overall expertly done
Fantastic work! The visuals were amazing and the story was enthralling from the minute it kicked off, very believable and in universe-feeling!
It would have been cool if you could have Incorporated the Minutemen into the on corned beef with the sole survivor becoming a general
Like always, great Video! Hope that the enclave winning will be the canon ending in the next game. The Enclave has a right to rule!
I always felt that the enclave was done dirty by Bethesda. I hope the next fallout is good. I really hope that Microsoft steps in and forces them to play nice with obsidian.
Of all the things that went wrong in the Fallout universe, it was denying Autumn the water purifier, and delaying the recovery of North America for at least another couple centuries. But muh freedom. Muh Liberty Prime. Muh BoS. Its tragic, really.
I must say, I am impressed and I like your story telling a lot. I watched the House video first. Now this one. Making Autumn not look like a total a-hole? Nice. I really don't like Motus...I find him creepy. (Yes, I play/played 76) Poor Liberty Prime. He did do his duty, though. And the Institute being down right dangerous? About time.
Your channel has a new subscriber. :)
Thanks Eden. You nearly derailed the whole damn operation!
Great vid!
“Happy gas mask noises”
The Two-headed bear versus the four-winged eagle, anyone? That'll be fun.
This was fantastic, I want more stories like this 🙌🏻
This is truly the best bed time story ever and after 6 months I still listen to it when I go to bed. I love this story so much well done.
Do you think you'd be able to do a video on how a Mr House-Brotherhood of Steel alliance might work? I would've thought they'd eventually end up as his private techno-army under one of his 'contracts', as without the brotherhoods morals the two seem to overlap in some areas. Either way its the NCR's worst nightmare lol. Love your videos btw.
Just one dialogue option can change the world! Fun video, thanks bro.
A beautiful Enclave victory. Truly an amazing video.
Mad bussin video I wish the enclave was like this in the real game it’s my favorite faction
Your video just made my day
same
I absolutely love this, it expands on the great things of the Enclave, and tells a very interesting story. Everything about it, from the characterization to the logic behind events unfolding, all of it is amazing. 9.5/10 video, good sir!