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I want to say that I appreciate the respectful and poetic tone towards the Olympians in this piece. There's a tendency among some UA-cam history channels to need to be mocking and dismissive of some or all of the religious beliefs of the subjects of their studies. No, I don't believe in Zeus, or Ares, or any of the rest. But most ancient Greeks did, and it's rarely productive for Historians to mock the subjects of their work.
@@jesseberg3271 thing is, Greeks themselves mocked their gods all the time. We shouldn't perceive Greek religious beliefs the same way we see modern religions, especially orthodox Abrahamic ones.
Somebody please help! Does anyone know the name of the background music at 26:10 of K&G's Alexander Balkan Campaign video? Link here: ua-cam.com/video/SndWlYj9zQM/v-deo.html
Your content lads should become the standard way of teaching history at schools, it cant get any more interesting or colourful than that, totally grand! 3 hours of ancient Greek history, for free, I mean, what else do you want? You guys are Kings indeed, thank you!
There would be value in incorporating more of this. But reading and primary sources are still important. Keeping attention and engagement is great, but we can’t overemphasize it and we often do for students these days. Still important to read, memorize, analyze the value of a source critically, and do the boring work of learning.
@@matthewriffel188 Absolutely Matt! I am a keen student of history books myself, Thucydides n the rest of the gang will always remain the grandmasters of storytelling, the original books are irreplaceable no doubt, but in order to get there one needs to get introduced to the subject first. And in most classes thats where the problem lies. Having teachers or professors that just bluntly read lines off some books, over n over again, boring most of the times even themselves to death, does nothing but have everyone jump overboard in the end. Using such well researched videos or other real-time projections of the stories in question to support a lesson or lecture would make these tales come alive and work wonders in terms of student attendance methinks (visiting the places where everything happened would also be a thrilling experience for the students, but not all of them live in Greece unfortunately). So yeah, thats what I meant, we live in a digital age where most things online are either sex or product related, stupid pointless (but sadly addicting) stuff anyway. And they are addicting because they stimulate peoples minds. So, why not incorporate such videos in our classes as well, and help stimulate the students interest n imagination and bring more of them on board this thrilling adventure in the long term? I mean, Total War alone has made an entire generation more passionate about history than all the other means combined! Thats good, right?
@@nessie9709They tell of who the primary sources are in the video. I've been able to go the works by Thucydides and the others and read all about the Peloponnesian War.
I know a lot of people love Roman and Medieval history, but I can't get enough of Ancient Greece. From the Bronze Age all the way up through Macedonia having chances to repel Rome but then making enormous mistakes. I just love this part of the world!
I enjoy Greek history but my favorite would go to the napoleonic era. So much happens in 20 years only rivaled by ww2. Plus you have one of the best army commanders of all time, maybe even the best.
Greek is just so interesting because of the effects it has had on basically everything in Western history. It was the cornerstone for every major democracy in one way or another.
@@tigerwoods373Gottfried? Because Napoleon is super overrated, he took advantage of antiquated militaries in Europe. Agrippa towers over Napoleon, as do a great many generals all throughout history from antiquity to the modern era. Nimitz is fantastic if you’re looking for naval strategy, Ferdinand II retaking Spain is a pretty important campaign that while not perfect in strategy ultimately proved he and Isabella to be effective leaders and then they promptly conquer the entire western hemisphere, so I’d put their reign as more significant in history than Napoleon’s, who while intent on destroying all of Europe beneath a black powder mausoleum, ultimately failed twice.
@@Thor-Orion He clearly said "army commander" so for that and other reasons Nimitz is clearly not in this discussion. Being the best army commander doesn't hinge on the importance of a particular campaign, nor does completely different people then going on to colonize other continents after. Basically none of the things you listed have any effect on how great of an army commander a person was
@@farlesbarkley1022 oh so you just don’t know who Agrippa is then? But your criteria is absolutely ridiculous, he said “possibly the best general ever” that means EVER not limited to just prior to him, not did Napoleon have the long term success indicative of an unparalleled general. But either way, just playing by your rules Von Blucher is superior, considering he kicked his ass twice (Leipzig and Waterloo) once with far numerically inferior forces. Then you’ve got Arminius stopping the Roman legions from conquering Europe by wiping out three full legions with a tiny force of poorly trained tribesman (with the exception of his personal Calvary unit who was Roman trained alongside Arminius). Totila made his entire career off of embarrassing the greatest world power of his era, only finally being defeated when he was killed at 60-odd years old while still leading his army from the front. Theodoric stopped Atilla. Alexander the Great conquered the planet. Ptolemy won every single war in the Diadochi Wars. Constantine saved the crumbling empire and reinvigorated it, making it last several more hundred years. Cyrus the Great conquered a ton of territory and set up the Persian Empire. Suppiluliuma I became the most powerful ruler in the known world at the time and defeated MAJOR powers around him, such as Egypt, Babylonia, Mitanni, and took all of the territory of Canaan from previously mentioned Egyptians. Not a single one of these generals were ever embarrassed like Napoleon in Russia, or at Leipzig, or at Waterloo.
One hour into the video I realised I was listening to it as a podcast while cooking and still maintaining a crystal clear picture of all the movements on the map. It's astonishing how the same city names (and the cities themselves) have survived over two and a half millennia.
I just have difficulty remembering names. It took me months to learn my own coworkers names and many i still don't know. So whenever they bring up new ones it confuses the hell out me.
It is also astonishing how the same borders or bounderies of city-states such as Laconia (Sparta )and Messinia (Messini) have survived over two and a half millennia as well.
Dear God. This channel is dropping three hour legendary videos on everything from the history of Britain to now this. I cannot handle this level of content
That's the most integral and accurate lecture of the incredibly complex piece of ancient history i've ever seen ❤ thank you, Kings &Generals! Well done! 👏
Admittedly, when I was growing up, I thought of Athens as the 'good guys' because of course the democracy had to be the good guys, right? Honestly was shocked later in life to realize how utterly tyrannical they were - not that the Spartans were a ton better, but still. Amazing video, guys!
I used to not know much of this conflict as a kid, but since playing Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, I’ve learned a lot more about it, especially the first half of the war.
Had a similar experience to this when I was in high school. Was taking US History while also playing Assassin’s Creed 3. It was kind of cool to recognize some of the historical events in the game from my history class.
The best quote of the video: 'Sparta itself claimed to be a liberator of Hellas from the Athenian imperialism,a short of Defender of the Free World, meanwhile Athens proclaimed itself to be the Defender of Democracy against repressive Oligarchies' Can you make any comparison to today???
By far the most accurate and deliberate pronunciation of Hellenic words and names, especially the tones. Well done, it's rather rare. Thank you for putting in the effort😊
Oh yeah! My boring Sunday just turned into an awesome Funday. I'll be here all night, folks. On a serious note, seeing this major accomplishment all together in a 3 hour video is a remarkable feat. I don't know how many people are out there that can appreciate how difficult the Peloponnesian War is to untangle and tell. My thanks to Thucydides for his contribution and his unmatched genius, and shout-out to Xenophon as well. He was no Thucydides, but if he didn't pick up where Thucydides left off, we wouldn't have an ending to this horrific story. I can say, great job by the crew that put this together, even before watching it as a whole, because the pieces made so far have been a real treat. Thank you!
This was amazing! I would love to see a video on Plato and Socrates and the context of their interactions and impact on their work since they were both alive and Socrates was executed during the Pelopponesian Wars.
Moreover, if Plato was not inventing, of course, Socrates was a teacher for both Alcibiades and Critius, the latter became an infamous bloody tyrant after the Athenian defeat.
@DemetriusRenatus There's some debate among scholars that the true impetus behind Socrates punishment was his support for the Thirty Tyrants and the end of athenian democracy. This course of events directly resulted from the end of Peloponnesian War.
Socrates served in the earlier Peloponnesian Wars. Again, according to Playdough. (Edit: yes, I do know his name isn’t actually spelled that way, but I like to imagine him as a red-tinted monstrosity constructed by a child in early development.)
Same here, I will never forget my secondary school history teacher taught me and my class that Alexander was a Roman general 🤦 tbf to her she was also an alcoholic
Classic example of a war so bloody and drawn out that the real winners were the ones that weren't really fighting! Neither Athens or Sparta were ever able to recover to the strength they had prior to the war, meanwhile Thebes, Macedon and of course Persia were the true beneficiaries.
absolutely amazing as usual, i would recommend covering the war of the Spanish succession or the seven years war. huge and important but forgotten wars. keep up the stunning work!
Chezburger1781 don’t forget about the war of Austrian succession since that war was also huge, important and is forgotten and it was important because it was the first major military combat for Fredrick the great but it was also important since it saw the end of the Jacobite rebellions but on the diplomatically level it is important because of a realignment known as the Diplomatic revolution which saw Austria and france end their rivalry and put aside their differences and issues to become allies against their enemies Great Britain, and Prussia and it also saw the signing of an alliance between Great Britain and Prussia and it was these changes and alliances that set the scene and stage for the outbreak of the seven years war in 1756.
Great stuff! Can't wait to see the whole of the Punic Wars and the other wars of Antiquity that you cover! Truly great content. I hope you cover all the wars of ancient Greco-Roman history.
I wonder if the Persians had itchy fingers to launch another full scale invasion of Greece during all this, taking advantage of all the infighting? I guess they had their reasons not to.
Persians weren't fully informed, they also didn't have much of a wish to conquer greece and the 100.000 perisan armies you hear of take months to build and money to upkeep which simply is too much if a risk looking how often the 2 Hellenic rivals made peace between the wars
I'm delighted to know the real life incident of geopolitical atmosphere what has been presented in Assassins Creed Odyssey. The Greek islands are so beautiful. I hope to visit them myself in future
Oh my god, this is incredible. I admire you guys so much for both your passion and technical skills. I'd much rather learn about history from your videos than a boring lecture.
I am literally writing my Ancient European midterm paper right now. The topic is on Aristophanes' plays and what they said about the Peloponnesian War. Goot timing!
I remember this part with the shields in aigos potamoi. We were translating the ancient script to modern greek back in high school. Off course it had more details on the masacre in aigos potamoi.Anyway amazing video.
Wow, literally perfect timing. I'm about to begin a longer cardio session and this is such a perfect fit lol. Love your work, Kings and Generals! It's made me very passionate about history and learning more, our past is so interesting :)
Note, despite the demands, Creative assembly instead made Troy, Pharaohs, and Britannia instead of a historically accurate Greek based game on par with Shogun 2 that would cover multiple time periods including the Trojan War, Greco persian wars, Peloponnesian wars, etc.
It took less than 3 years of fighting for us Greeks to defeat the Persian Empire, but almost 30 years of fighting for our two biggest cities of the time to settle their differences....
History student here, i have done research into the mines of Laurion. This would be a great topic for you guys to cover, because, without the mines of Laurion, the Peloponnesian war would not have been possible
@@KingsandGenerals the Athenians began the mines of luarion around the late 6th early 5th century BC. Without the silver that came from the mines, it would not have been possible for Athens to fund their navy and military operations. From the 5th century BC onwards, the Athenians used the money from the mine to fund the construction of their triremes. I wrote on this topic for my main undergraduate history thesis.
@@KingsandGenerals in my thesis i argue that the building of the ships and amount of money needed to pay sailors would not have been possible without the mine. Thykydides actually gives great detail about the amount of money Athenian sailors were paid.
i absolutely loved this! I was in my Classics class and this video literally helped me passed my test. it was so hard to understand this but the video helped drastically!
I heard about this in Assassin's Creed Odyssey and I adored that game. Athens, Sparta and many other cities were featured. Well folks, time to go look at the Pelo-History! :D love this channel!
Athens gains made it ambitious, ignoring any stoicism that its thinkers had warned, thus an age of hell in the ancient world and eventually lost to time.
For 3 hours I had the occasion to see an amazing video made by you about the Peloponnesian War. Thank you so much for this masterpiece. I really enjoyed it!
What's funny is that the ancient Greek and Roman Republic worlds often feel much more familiar in its geopolitics than nearer periods like the middle ages.
Thanks for another awesome video, your guys stuff is absolutely amazing and I can never get enough.. history guys making history videos for history buffs… and 3 hour videos? Get the f out of here, love it.. keep up the great work guys!
I really appreciate the amount of detail put into this.History is much more complicated than people realize, or how it is made out to be . I can’t stand how history is over simplified; especially for the sake of some sort of agenda/narrative.
I was just starting to dive into this time period and what happens? You drop the exact video i wanted...TODAY! Amazing timing cant wait to get into these
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH KINGS AND GENERALS I HAD SO MUCH HOPE YOU'D MAKE THE PELLEPONESIAN WAR A FULL EPISODE,HAHAHA I LOVE WHEN YOU COMBINE VIDS INTO 1 HOUR++
Comparing ancient and modern, greeks is more united now because they using only 1 Hellenic dialect language wich is the attican Athenian dialect. When the Hellenic kingdom of Macedonia conquered the city states, Alexander the great proclaimed attican Athenian dialect as language (koine greek )of all Hellenics kingdoms and his empire and successors. This trend used until Roman empire period, east roman/byzantine roman empire period, and now current greece
Imagine a war that lasted multiple generations to simply hurt Greece even more and made them more vulnerable when Phillip the second invaded the rest of Greece..
History is so interesting. Fascinating to think that had Athens won a total victory, they could’ve possibly been the ones to create a United Greece instead of Phillip of Macedon. Would be interesting how much history would’ve been drastically changed had certain events gone differently. Would Persia had fallen? Would the geeks just reclaim Anatolia and leave the Persian empire to survive elsewhere? Would the huge naval might of Athens made colonization and expansion more effective and would this have snuffed out romes imperial desires and it instead be the Greeks creating a Mediterranean empure?? Would Athens have allied with the samnites or etruscans, giving them the edge to dominate Italy instead of Rome. Would we have seen a Samnite empure? Crazy to think. Or maybe nothing would’ve changed in the long run. Idk.
Athena goddess of strategy and wisdom, also seems to be goddess of a ruthless expansionists city-state. You would think that would be Sparta given their warrior reputation.
Wait sparta won the war??? Man i really gotta study ancient greece more. Honestly my whole life i just assumed athens had won even right up until the part where athens surrendered, glad i watched the whole vid
@@imperatorxiii8643 yes macedonian rule in greece was about 150 years until rome conwuered them ptolemaic empire pergamos antiochia all macedonian cities survived as hellenistic empires for 200 years before rome
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I want to say that I appreciate the respectful and poetic tone towards the Olympians in this piece. There's a tendency among some UA-cam history channels to need to be mocking and dismissive of some or all of the religious beliefs of the subjects of their studies. No, I don't believe in Zeus, or Ares, or any of the rest. But most ancient Greeks did, and it's rarely productive for Historians to mock the subjects of their work.
@@jesseberg3271 thing is, Greeks themselves mocked their gods all the time. We shouldn't perceive Greek religious beliefs the same way we see modern religions, especially orthodox Abrahamic ones.
I want to translate your videos in my language, will you approve it >?
@@KingsandGenerals
Somebody please help! Does anyone know the name of the background music at 26:10 of K&G's Alexander Balkan Campaign video? Link here: ua-cam.com/video/SndWlYj9zQM/v-deo.html
@@jesseberg3271😮😮
Your content lads should become the standard way of teaching history at schools, it cant get any more interesting or colourful than that, totally grand! 3 hours of ancient Greek history, for free, I mean, what else do you want? You guys are Kings indeed, thank you!
Thanks!
There would be value in incorporating more of this. But reading and primary sources are still important. Keeping attention and engagement is great, but we can’t overemphasize it and we often do for students these days. Still important to read, memorize, analyze the value of a source critically, and do the boring work of learning.
It kinda is in colleges and AP courses but it depends on the state! Also most school neglect history in general for STEM which is a shame.
@@matthewriffel188 Absolutely Matt! I am a keen student of history books myself, Thucydides n the rest of the gang will always remain the grandmasters of storytelling, the original books are irreplaceable no doubt, but in order to get there one needs to get introduced to the subject first. And in most classes thats where the problem lies. Having teachers or professors that just bluntly read lines off some books, over n over again, boring most of the times even themselves to death, does nothing but have everyone jump overboard in the end. Using such well researched videos or other real-time projections of the stories in question to support a lesson or lecture would make these tales come alive and work wonders in terms of student attendance methinks (visiting the places where everything happened would also be a thrilling experience for the students, but not all of them live in Greece unfortunately). So yeah, thats what I meant, we live in a digital age where most things online are either sex or product related, stupid pointless (but sadly addicting) stuff anyway. And they are addicting because they stimulate peoples minds. So, why not incorporate such videos in our classes as well, and help stimulate the students interest n imagination and bring more of them on board this thrilling adventure in the long term? I mean, Total War alone has made an entire generation more passionate about history than all the other means combined! Thats good, right?
@@nessie9709They tell of who the primary sources are in the video. I've been able to go the works by Thucydides and the others and read all about the Peloponnesian War.
I know a lot of people love Roman and Medieval history, but I can't get enough of Ancient Greece. From the Bronze Age all the way up through Macedonia having chances to repel Rome but then making enormous mistakes. I just love this part of the world!
I enjoy Greek history but my favorite would go to the napoleonic era. So much happens in 20 years only rivaled by ww2. Plus you have one of the best army commanders of all time, maybe even the best.
Greek is just so interesting because of the effects it has had on basically everything in Western history. It was the cornerstone for every major democracy in one way or another.
@@tigerwoods373Gottfried? Because Napoleon is super overrated, he took advantage of antiquated militaries in Europe. Agrippa towers over Napoleon, as do a great many generals all throughout history from antiquity to the modern era. Nimitz is fantastic if you’re looking for naval strategy, Ferdinand II retaking Spain is a pretty important campaign that while not perfect in strategy ultimately proved he and Isabella to be effective leaders and then they promptly conquer the entire western hemisphere, so I’d put their reign as more significant in history than Napoleon’s, who while intent on destroying all of Europe beneath a black powder mausoleum, ultimately failed twice.
@@Thor-Orion He clearly said "army commander" so for that and other reasons Nimitz is clearly not in this discussion. Being the best army commander doesn't hinge on the importance of a particular campaign, nor does completely different people then going on to colonize other continents after. Basically none of the things you listed have any effect on how great of an army commander a person was
@@farlesbarkley1022 oh so you just don’t know who Agrippa is then?
But your criteria is absolutely ridiculous, he said “possibly the best general ever” that means EVER not limited to just prior to him, not did Napoleon have the long term success indicative of an unparalleled general.
But either way, just playing by your rules Von Blucher is superior, considering he kicked his ass twice (Leipzig and Waterloo) once with far numerically inferior forces. Then you’ve got Arminius stopping the Roman legions from conquering Europe by wiping out three full legions with a tiny force of poorly trained tribesman (with the exception of his personal Calvary unit who was Roman trained alongside Arminius). Totila made his entire career off of embarrassing the greatest world power of his era, only finally being defeated when he was killed at 60-odd years old while still leading his army from the front.
Theodoric stopped Atilla.
Alexander the Great conquered the planet.
Ptolemy won every single war in the Diadochi Wars. Constantine saved the crumbling empire and reinvigorated it, making it last several more hundred years. Cyrus the Great conquered a ton of territory and set up the Persian Empire. Suppiluliuma I became the most powerful ruler in the known world at the time and defeated MAJOR powers around him, such as Egypt, Babylonia, Mitanni, and took all of the territory of Canaan from previously mentioned Egyptians.
Not a single one of these generals were ever embarrassed like Napoleon in Russia, or at Leipzig, or at Waterloo.
As a Greek city-state myself this series was enlightening
You are a greek city-state? Now that's awesome news.
You are a greek city-state? You are the missing Sparta?
how many phalanxes do you field?
I'm a roman province btw
Is your city state interested in joining the League of Delphi? If not, know that you will join anywhere.
One hour into the video I realised I was listening to it as a podcast while cooking and still maintaining a crystal clear picture of all the movements on the map. It's astonishing how the same city names (and the cities themselves) have survived over two and a half millennia.
I just have difficulty remembering names. It took me months to learn my own coworkers names and many i still don't know. So whenever they bring up new ones it confuses the hell out me.
It is also astonishing how the same borders or bounderies of city-states such as Laconia (Sparta )and Messinia (Messini) have survived over two and a half millennia as well.
Dear God. This channel is dropping three hour legendary videos on everything from the history of Britain to now this. I cannot handle this level of content
Is your comment good or bad?
@@JerryThomas-xc7ur its bad - I need to work but how can I with content like this available
That's the most integral and accurate lecture of the incredibly complex piece of ancient history i've ever seen ❤ thank you, Kings &Generals! Well done! 👏
Thank you!
Well done indeed!!! You guys are absolutely amazing!!
Admittedly, when I was growing up, I thought of Athens as the 'good guys' because of course the democracy had to be the good guys, right? Honestly was shocked later in life to realize how utterly tyrannical they were - not that the Spartans were a ton better, but still. Amazing video, guys!
just imagine the athenians as todays america.
@@AkkaAlbatros Not remotely comparable.
@@apilolomiyeah they are. You can compare them in lots of ways. Are they alike? Eh, people can decide that for themselves.
@@apilolomi Entirely comparable.
Why not? If your going to disagree atleast post more beyond "Nuh uh!"
@@apilolomi
Probably the the best known and definitive example that history is not always written by the winners.
History is written by the survivors.
history is written by the writers
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I’m a simple man, I see a long kings and generals documentary, I drop everything and watch
We're all simple. History is too much to be exhausted, it exhausts me instead.
It's the best life.
im a simple man, i spend 100 hours on byzantine video and get 12 views🗿. Ik u didn't ask, I'll just use you as my therapist
This is even better than the original by Thucydides
Unlikely, but thank you :-)
Ignorance is bold, and knowledge preserved 😤
Clearly you haven’t read it.😏
Having read Thucydides, I wouldn’t go that far. But it is one of the better visual summations I’ve seen.
He didn't have access to Adobe so yeah
I had a blast watching this series! I can’t wait for the Greco-Persian Wars!
You don't have to wait, they have already happened a long time ago
@@belialordyou know what I mean
@@iexist3919bruh 😊
@@belialord You win UA-cam
I used to not know much of this conflict as a kid, but since playing Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, I’ve learned a lot more about it, especially the first half of the war.
Had a similar experience to this when I was in high school. Was taking US History while also playing Assassin’s Creed 3. It was kind of cool to recognize some of the historical events in the game from my history class.
@@TK-rz6niI also had a similar experience, I was learning French revolution in school while playing Unity
One of my favorite periods of history, thanks for covering guys
The best quote of the video:
'Sparta itself claimed to be a liberator of Hellas from the Athenian imperialism,a short of Defender of the Free World, meanwhile
Athens proclaimed itself to be the Defender of Democracy against repressive Oligarchies'
Can you make any comparison to today???
"History repeats itself !"
China vs USA Cold War 2.0
"History doesn't actually repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes." Mark Twain
By far the most accurate and deliberate pronunciation of Hellenic words and names, especially the tones. Well done, it's rather rare. Thank you for putting in the effort😊
Nope. Historically, it is a very good effort, names excepted. I mean, Aigina sounded almost like v... 😊
HAHA his prononouncations were all sheet
Why was Thucydides pronounced incorrectly?
Thanks for covering the primary sources. I'm always amazed that ancient people went into this much detail.
you know about the korean scribe story?
Oh yeah! My boring Sunday just turned into an awesome Funday. I'll be here all night, folks.
On a serious note, seeing this major accomplishment all together in a 3 hour video is a remarkable feat. I don't know how many people are out there that can appreciate how difficult the Peloponnesian War is to untangle and tell. My thanks to Thucydides for his contribution and his unmatched genius, and shout-out to Xenophon as well. He was no Thucydides, but if he didn't pick up where Thucydides left off, we wouldn't have an ending to this horrific story.
I can say, great job by the crew that put this together, even before watching it as a whole, because the pieces made so far have been a real treat. Thank you!
This was amazing! I would love to see a video on Plato and Socrates and the context of their interactions and impact on their work since they were both alive and Socrates was executed during the Pelopponesian Wars.
Moreover, if Plato was not inventing, of course, Socrates was a teacher for both Alcibiades and Critius, the latter became an infamous bloody tyrant after the Athenian defeat.
@@FRESSY22 Interesting. I would love to see both Plato and Socrates being discussed in the actual context in which they lived
Socrates was executed in 399 BC, while Peloponissian War ended in 404 BC
@DemetriusRenatus There's some debate among scholars that the true impetus behind Socrates punishment was his support for the Thirty Tyrants and the end of athenian democracy. This course of events directly resulted from the end of Peloponnesian War.
Socrates served in the earlier Peloponnesian Wars. Again, according to Playdough. (Edit: yes, I do know his name isn’t actually spelled that way, but I like to imagine him as a red-tinted monstrosity constructed by a child in early development.)
Not gonna lie, most of history I have learned, I didnt learned it at school, I learned from documentaries of this kind.
Thank you guys.
Same here, I will never forget my secondary school history teacher taught me and my class that Alexander was a Roman general 🤦 tbf to her she was also an alcoholic
incredible. To do the entire Peloponnesian war is mental lol, bravo and thanks a lot K&G!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
I love it when this channel does the long documentary versions of their battles by compiling them all together into a single video.
Classic example of a war so bloody and drawn out that the real winners were the ones that weren't really fighting! Neither Athens or Sparta were ever able to recover to the strength they had prior to the war, meanwhile Thebes, Macedon and of course Persia were the true beneficiaries.
Too bad I have no money for the “members only” to watch each weekly video. Thanks uploading the entire series in one video.
Kings and Generals time and time again showcasing why they are the GOAT
Yes the mega compilation has arrived! Thank you to the entire Kings and Generals team!
You're a blessing for the history loving community for making these videos
absolutely amazing as usual, i would recommend covering the war of the Spanish succession or the seven years war. huge and important but forgotten wars.
keep up the stunning work!
It is on our list
Chezburger1781 don’t forget about the war of Austrian succession since that war was also huge, important and is forgotten and it was important because it was the first major military combat for Fredrick the great but it was also important since it saw the end of the Jacobite rebellions but on the diplomatically level it is important because of a realignment known as the Diplomatic revolution which saw Austria and france end their rivalry and put aside their differences and issues to become allies against their enemies Great Britain, and Prussia and it also saw the signing of an alliance between Great Britain and Prussia and it was these changes and alliances that set the scene and stage for the outbreak of the seven years war in 1756.
@@chasechristophermurraydola9314 yep
@@KingsandGenerals you'd do it best!
@KingsandGenerals, 1870-71 Franco-Prussian war, obviously including the siege of Paris?
Wonderful writing and narration. Thank you.
A three hour video from Kings & Generals?!?
😮 I won't be able to watch it all in one go, but I can't wait to get through it all in a day or two!
As someone who has to deal with ancient history at university, I thank you for your content, I'd be fucked without it
Dude, you are absolutely spectacular. A 3 hour documentary on the Peloponnesian War. What else could i have asked? Hahaha.
I've already watched all the episodes! But man I can't skip a good 3 hr documentary
Thanks! However, there is 30 minutes of new content if you are a member and 50 minutes if you are not
@@KingsandGeneralsWhat do you mean by that? Are the public videos about the Peloponnesian War shorter than the member exclusive ones?
@@Kili2807 no. But there is 30 minutes of new content for everyone, while the last episode was not released to the public and is part of this one
@@KingsandGenerals now I get it. Nice that you included the Phyle Campaign as well.
@@KingsandGenerals although I find it a bit of a shame that the playlist of the individual episodes is never completed
1:07:11 "Hellas has seen much war, and more war will come to its shores, giving the Hellenes a chance for more glory, and mourning."
Absolute bars.
Great stuff! Can't wait to see the whole of the Punic Wars and the other wars of Antiquity that you cover! Truly great content. I hope you cover all the wars of ancient Greco-Roman history.
I wonder if the Persians had itchy fingers to launch another full scale invasion of Greece during all this, taking advantage of all the infighting? I guess they had their reasons not to.
Why invade when there was Sparta do the whole work
They were probably aware that if they attacked Athens and Sparta would stop fighting between themselves
At the time, an empire as big as Persia wasn't really even capable of doing anything like that on short notice
HAHA what the fuck to you think it is? Warhammer3000 HAHA
Persians weren't fully informed, they also didn't have much of a wish to conquer greece and the 100.000 perisan armies you hear of take months to build and money to upkeep which simply is too much if a risk looking how often the 2 Hellenic rivals made peace between the wars
An eagles 🦅 eye view of the what could be called the first “World War” of the Greek world. From start to finish. Awesome
I'm delighted to know the real life incident of geopolitical atmosphere what has been presented in Assassins Creed Odyssey. The Greek islands are so beautiful. I hope to visit them myself in future
I think we all want to get out on the Mediterranean and see the sites of classical antiquity.
I have played your previous videos about this for the last 3 weeks. Legendary upload.
Oh my god, this is incredible. I admire you guys so much for both your passion and technical skills. I'd much rather learn about history from your videos than a boring lecture.
I have question. Are you guys planning a series on the Greco-Presian wars.
Yep, it is being written right now
@@KingsandGeneralswill it be available to the public or a members exclusive first?
@@DrKarmo member exclusive probably
@@KingsandGenerals ah, shame
Well, i can wait for it to come out! Keep up the good work y'all (no more joining the dark side)!
@@TheIronChancellor that is just not true. You are getting 3-5 videos for free every week.
one of the best history channels i've seen in all my life
Your channel truly opens a new door to ancient civilizations. Every video is so informative and engaging!
Greatest history channel ever
One of the best documentaries on channel so far!
Greek war was bloody. Learnt so much. Thanks K & G
I am literally writing my Ancient European midterm paper right now. The topic is on Aristophanes' plays and what they said about the Peloponnesian War. Goot timing!
A very important piece of history which everyone should exploit for themselves, thanks to kings and generals for making this great content.
I remember this part with the shields in aigos potamoi. We were translating the ancient script to modern greek back in high school. Off course it had more details on the masacre in aigos potamoi.Anyway amazing video.
Wow, literally perfect timing. I'm about to begin a longer cardio session and this is such a perfect fit lol. Love your work, Kings and Generals! It's made me very passionate about history and learning more, our past is so interesting :)
What great saga this is... Good work team, appreciating very much
Note, despite the demands, Creative assembly instead made Troy, Pharaohs, and Britannia instead of a historically accurate Greek based game on par with Shogun 2 that would cover multiple time periods including the Trojan War, Greco persian wars, Peloponnesian wars, etc.
I don't think that was the top request. Most people were and still are clamoring for Medieval III
Another great series! thank you KnG!
Woohoo, another long full documentry. Great to listen to while at work!
It took less than 3 years of fighting for us Greeks to defeat the Persian Empire, but almost 30 years of fighting for our two biggest cities of the time to settle their differences....
Much better than watching all the episodes one after another
This is the most random wake up autoplay
fr tho but i gotta see it through i got invested
History student here, i have done research into the mines of Laurion. This would be a great topic for you guys to cover, because, without the mines of Laurion, the Peloponnesian war would not have been possible
I actually don't remember reading about it. Can you elaborate?
@@KingsandGenerals the Athenians began the mines of luarion around the late 6th early 5th century BC. Without the silver that came from the mines, it would not have been possible for Athens to fund their navy and military operations. From the 5th century BC onwards, the Athenians used the money from the mine to fund the construction of their triremes. I wrote on this topic for my main undergraduate history thesis.
@@KingsandGenerals in my thesis i argue that the building of the ships and amount of money needed to pay sailors would not have been possible without the mine. Thykydides actually gives great detail about the amount of money Athenian sailors were paid.
@@jcaesar7668 ok, silver. Now it is coming back to me :-)
i absolutely loved this! I was in my Classics class and this video literally helped me passed my test. it was so hard to understand this but the video helped drastically!
Bravo. This chronical was nothing short of amazing.
3 things are certain in life, tax, death, and greeks fighting each other.
I took a hit at 420bc in the documentary. Not on purpose, just happened and I had a sensible chuckle. : )
I heard about this in Assassin's Creed Odyssey and I adored that game. Athens, Sparta and many other cities were featured. Well folks, time to go look at the Pelo-History! :D love this channel!
Love the job you did here! Definitely going to have to watch it a few times as the amount of material covered is a bit mind boggling.
Athens gains made it ambitious, ignoring any stoicism that its thinkers had warned, thus an age of hell in the ancient world and eventually lost to time.
I like how you combined both Greek Mythology with history
Kings and Generals is the absolute GOAT for this! Thank you!!
Thank you kings and generals ❤
For 3 hours I had the occasion to see an amazing video made by you about the Peloponnesian War. Thank you so much for this masterpiece. I really enjoyed it!
What's funny is that the ancient Greek and Roman Republic worlds often feel much more familiar in its geopolitics than nearer periods like the middle ages.
Stumbling across this channel and video and hearing offy D talking about ancient Greece was a massive throwback to tails of massalia
I love to see such great content that unfortunately isn’t too much on UA-cam about this conflict, as somebody who read Tucidides, congratulations
Thanks!
Thanks for another awesome video, your guys stuff is absolutely amazing and I can never get enough.. history guys making history videos for history buffs… and 3 hour videos? Get the f out of here, love it.. keep up the great work guys!
Kings and generals always delivers the goods 👏 😊
I really appreciate the amount of detail put into this.History is much more complicated than people realize, or how it is made out to be . I can’t stand how history is over simplified; especially for the sake of some sort of agenda/narrative.
God bless you for putting subtitles
Easily one of the best videos I’ve seen on youtube. Thucydides would be proud
Such a great channel, I can't wait to check this one out
Good stuff. Thanks.
Man I love some peloponnesian wars in the morning
Oh boy, it's time to watch another several hour documentary by Kings and Generals
I was just starting to dive into this time period and what happens? You drop the exact video i wanted...TODAY! Amazing timing cant wait to get into these
thank you for this, this was one of the periods which initially had me thinking deeply about history
Absolutely brilliant as always
Thanks!
I have venn following uou since the beginning i love the content... made me love history even more ❤
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH KINGS AND GENERALS I HAD SO MUCH HOPE YOU'D MAKE THE PELLEPONESIAN WAR A FULL EPISODE,HAHAHA I LOVE WHEN YOU COMBINE VIDS INTO 1 HOUR++
This is the most confusing war I have ever watched.
Comparing ancient and modern, greeks is more united now because they using only 1 Hellenic dialect language wich is the attican Athenian dialect. When the Hellenic kingdom of Macedonia conquered the city states, Alexander the great proclaimed attican Athenian dialect as language (koine greek )of all Hellenics kingdoms and his empire and successors. This trend used until Roman empire period, east roman/byzantine roman empire period, and now current greece
Ως Έλλην οφείλω να χαρακτηρήσω την δουλειά σας ως εξαίσια!
As a Greek I chararacterize your work as excellent!
Imagine a war that lasted multiple generations to simply hurt Greece even more and made them more vulnerable when Phillip the second invaded the rest of Greece..
Impressed you snuck a Dr. Evil reference into this. lol. Great work. Watched it a couple of times now.
History is so interesting. Fascinating to think that had Athens won a total victory, they could’ve possibly been the ones to create a United Greece instead of Phillip of Macedon. Would be interesting how much history would’ve been drastically changed had certain events gone differently. Would Persia had fallen? Would the geeks just reclaim Anatolia and leave the Persian empire to survive elsewhere? Would the huge naval might of Athens made colonization and expansion more effective and would this have snuffed out romes imperial desires and it instead be the Greeks creating a Mediterranean empure?? Would Athens have allied with the samnites or etruscans, giving them the edge to dominate Italy instead of Rome. Would we have seen a Samnite empure?
Crazy to think. Or maybe nothing would’ve changed in the long run. Idk.
Can't believe I ate all my snacks before starting this video.
Athena goddess of strategy and wisdom, also seems to be goddess of a ruthless expansionists city-state.
You would think that would be Sparta given their warrior reputation.
Just like USA
Wait sparta won the war??? Man i really gotta study ancient greece more. Honestly my whole life i just assumed athens had won even right up until the part where athens surrendered, glad i watched the whole vid
2:00:03 Yeah, Imma have to agree with Phrynichos. I doubt Persia ever had Athenian interests at heart!
'This is exactly what ive been waiting for' 🔥🔥🔥
Your content lads should become the standard way of teaching history at schools
What a fantastic documentary.
Thank you...
I can't believe this war led to Macedon becoming a hedgemon for hundreds of yrs
Hundreds? Lmao.
@@imperatorxiii8643 yes macedonian rule in greece was about 150 years until rome conwuered them ptolemaic empire pergamos antiochia all macedonian cities survived as hellenistic empires for 200 years before rome