Yep, it took Mark 45 fucking minutes just to list all the changes, and this was the "downscoped" update. And it's a free game. This is how you push the genre. I do think it's important to realize that the massive financial success (and utter disappointment) of D4 has definitely revitalized competition in the ARPG world.
In general, I think ARPG tribalism is pretty dumb and I think all of the games have a place for a different audience, but you see this and you kind of get why POE fans are hard on D4. They do this much in one 4 month league development period and D4 has 3 times as much staff and gives you a new helltide. It is crazy to me how much they make every 3-4 months for POE. Absolutely insane.
With D4 I don't think it's all tribalism. Diablo 2 is probably my favorite game of all time, but I hate how Blizzard treats the Diablo franchise. I wish D4 was a good game.
@@vanillaice7749same here. I don't think I've gone longer than 6 months without playing Diablo 2 since it came out back in 2000. That's what makes it so disappointing that it's so soulless and corporate now, especially when comparing POE which is free to play and comes from a much smaller team with exponentially less resources and started without a beloved IP 😅
Ayo dog we put a game inside of your game inside of your game inside of your game so you can be inside of your game inside of your game while you're inside of your game playing your game
Blizzard devs: "We are doing a great job, wow look at all we do" GGG devs: "I dunno man.. balance is hard" "This is experimental and might suck" The ability to be realistic and self critical is a huge reason GGG is so trusted, beyond the fact of how much content they continue to deliver over and over.
thats not completely true. this type of game appeals to the no lifers and not the casual gamers. so the hardcore bois might enjoy playing farmville in an arpg.
Johnathan from POE Q&A streams two months ago "Pretty sure we will NEVER have more than 5 map device slots" Two months later "Fuck it, here's your 6th map device slot"
I love how just mindblown DM is, and how hyped he is before they even GET TO THE HUGE MELEE BUFF. I've watched this announcement and like 3 reactions I just can't get enough man GGG single-handedly restoring my faith in the video game industry
D4: "here's some early footage a new class that's just what druid should've been from day 1. pls buy our expac for $40" Poe: "here's our gargantuan new league mechanic that introduces multiple massive concepts to the game, finally a goddamn auction house, and we casually massively buffed and reworked the entire game itself and tons of its fundamental aspects. all in a free update before our even more massive free sequel coming soon with multiple amazing-looking all-new classes on top of our old ones which includes one of the more boring subclasses totally reinvented from the ground up this patch. ciao"
my advice is to take things slow. There is alot, and I mean alot, of stuff in the game you wont need to even think until your dozens/hundreds of hours in. Follow a build guide if you dont mind it, and try and focus on only the most simple mechanics until you find something that catches your interest enough to dive a bit deeper.
If you like this genre, then I advise you to try it. The main thing is not to dive into all the content at once and not try to kill uber bosses with the 1st character (most likely he will not be able to do even regilar ones). You need to gradually learn the content and mechanics of the game.
@charlespanache7047 D3s combat and leaderboards keeps competitive players coming back each season. It's great for a week or two blast. D4 doesn't even have Pit leaderboards, that is pretty sad.
@@jakubpelikan2393they are owned by TENCENT they are bound to make money for their investors, all companies are these aren’t charities but TENCENT just gives them a lot of freedom, I doubt they even know what’s going on with POE half the time but if they don’t make money they will be
The Background Quality of Life Improvements like Gold, Improved Trade Market, Div Cards on Map etc are what has me hyped. Even the passive income through shipping or npcs running maps for you. I have my criticisms but this dev team is awesome
Yes but no 👀ツ ==> A lot of people won't get much fun even from PoE 2 but the disappointment with Diablo IV is not being bad but not being "one of best ones" because it's achievible even with their rmodern esources/ 🤔 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@TheBassteban Why not just hop on and play it for a few hours? It's completely free you don't need to understand everything. Just play the game and have fun, and then you'll inevitably want to learn more and will learn more as you just play. If not, just wait for PoE2, which is apparently much more accessible as it won't have dozens of leagues worth of content already in the game when you first start.
i love when new league feed of previous league lore. in this case the mineral vein we collect are based in the vaal corruption, scourge demons, infested grows for bligth league, the lake of kalandra hexagons, and the heralds blue energy
This might actually be the perfect league for more casual players to get in to. The gold and currency trade is going to help people respec bricked characters a lot easier.
I hope there is a way to increase gold find, so i can just passively play the game. Might not be the most rewarding, but the most time efficient for me
@@Powermongur Since quantity has effectively been removed I don't know. Rarity might make the piles bigger since it doesn't have a direct upgrade. Even then it might just scale to the level of the zone you're in.
@@wintergloom5695 There is a chisel that increase currency drops. Maps also have quantity, so you can min-max for it. And juice maps with more stuff like strongboxes etc for more monsters. Wildwood also add quantity and maybe sentiel.
This game is 11 years old champ and it was horse shit for awhile before it got to this point. They aren't going for the same target audience. PoE is for people who want ONE game and to spend 1000 hours to learn a little bit. Diablo 4 is for a more casual player base, I'll NEVER play PoE because its the biggest time sink.
@@Kanoog His comment still stands though, there's a huge difference between the two studios, no matter your personal choice of game. I play both and get super bored in D4 after a few days, but that's me.
@@Kanoog So you won't play PoE, but you know it takes a 1000 hours to learn a little bit of it? Surely you can see how that makes no sense? PoE is nowhere near as difficult as people who know nothing about it believe. Also, Diablo has been out for 28 years now, so it isn't like Blizzard are new to this. THEY chose to start from scratch with a team that had no clue how to make an ARPG. That's on them. Project Hades was the origins of D4, and that started around the beginning of 2014 before becoming Project Fenris in 2016, so it's not like they were rushed and forced to release an incomplete experience. They chose to release a game that was missing basic mechanics from D3. It took ~9 months to get a preview of enchant outcomes, FFS! How do you just forget to have that? Anyway, back to the point I was alluding to; GGG release more content, for free, every 3 months than Blizzard have managed in the last year, all while working on PoE2 and with a far smaller studio. GGG aren't achieving this because the studio is manned by superhumans, it's because they give a shit about their game, they listen to their playerbase (even if they have to go against the players' wishes sometimes for the good of he game) and they work hard. The fact that GGG give eveything to the players for free, and then the players CHOOSE to pay for MTX to support the game should show you which game has the better relationship with their community. GGG have players, Blizzard have customers. If Blizzard released D4 for free I would have maybe dropped a few dollars for season 2, because that showed progress, and maybe season 4, maybe. Everything else has been garbage. Anyway, rant over. Please don't think I am annoyed at you, this is me being pissed at Blizzard. I love the Diablo franchise, have done since I first played back in 96 and I think it deserves better than what Acti/Blizz have turned it into.
This all started when a group of guys wanted to make an aRPG because they were tired of the lack of new releases in the genre and if I remember right. They never charged for the game, or any expansions it has had. I mean yes they have the QoL things you really kinda wanna buy, but I got started on console lol so got used to it 😂
@@TheRahyah Blizzard has done this multiple times. They keep purposely putting their announcements and leagues on the same day or immediately soon after GGG's shit.
Man, I was originally going to go magic this league but gawd damn melee = log in dude. Edit: for those saying it might be too confusing or overwhelming to start PoE, I started in Affliction league (2 leagues ago) and I am having a blast. I understand only like 20% of the game but it is enough for me to get to red/purple maps and have a great time.
I agree. Heck, I've never even made it to the end game despite playing off and on for about 1.5 years. I drop in for new leagues. Try stuff out like different classes and different builds. In addition to whatever the new league mechanics are. And it's still great. It's the game I play when I'm tired of TV, books, or gacha games and just want to sit down for a few hours and have some mindless fun. I go through streaks where I play for weeks. And some where I play for a day or two and that's all. Don't be overwhelmed by potential complexity, as you can enjoy game immensely without knowing almost any of it.
@JimOMoore can you tell me a bit about it. I played it before years ago for like 5 months. I totally forgot how to play don't remember what class I had
Imagine being this blunt not to admit the greatness of PoE as some dingleberries pointed out in the comment section. The amount of commitment PoE does no other aRPG can do, nor ever will.
It’s not that players don’t aknwoledge the work. It’s simply not a fun nor good game for casual players. PoE do ton of work but it’s a game for hardcore fans. Maybe the second game will change this.
@@baso1980 it is definitely a hard game to get into. But there are casual players that like the complexity and the feel of the game. We know that because most people don't actually reach endgame. Not everyone needs to be able to do the hardest content in a game as big as this one. You can have fun whenever you are.
Sure its hard and overwhelming that many things, but every PoE player started like that and they stick to the game and learn every league sth new. Sure if u wonna play braindead dann go to d4
I think the currency market and respec with gold is really what I want. I enjoy Diablo 4 and I always will but I'll be joining POE this league after taking last off
I literally tried to get into Poe last league but found out melee builds were trash so I fell off, it’s like they knew. I’ll definitely try to get into this game again
This is embarrassing for blizzard this is what happens when all your resources go into the actual game not just marketing cinematics just made the switch from diablo to poe and God damn don't know why I didn't switch over sooner
@@sonoftristram casual games can in fact still have content in them from the billion dollar studio. the two aren't mutually exclusive, it doesn't have to be sleep inducing hell tide recolor #45 if you actually have ideas for your $70 video game with season passes and paid expansions. Blizzard titles should be held to astronomically higher standards than Last Epoch and POE, not the opposite given the resources they have.
@@dystopiabeach money doesn't make good content. PoE and LE would be nothing without player feedback, that's what got them on the track they are now. Player retention at LEs release also didn't really speak about great motivating content
@@sonoftristram and yet it's a $35 box price game with all other updates for free that has more depth of both characters and content. how do you expect D4 to retain players when there's objectively nothing to do? it's going to have a 2 year head start and POE2 is still going to drop with more build options (independent of any system complexity, just pure character variety), endgame bosses, etc day one, it's pathetic for a full price supposedly AAA game. D4 has nothing to offer the second you roll credits on story which is antithetical to everything that makes ARPGs great.
If you look at GGG's financial statements from 2022 and 2023, you can see how they are investing a lot of their revenue on PoE2 to put a lot of resources/money into making better content - I'd argue that money does make good content when in the right hands, especially when you are a more agile, experienced company like GGG where gameplay comes first and you are run by seasoned, hardcore ARPG players.
GGG is just amazing. LE last update was incredible, but this is even better and free. Meanwhile, D4 shows only 1 new class that will cost 40$+ What a joke D4 is so far (even though the Spiritborne DOES look amazing).
The class can't be bought, it's the expansion that cost 40$, the class is just a part of it. It's awesome how GGG still can put these out for free and I love them for it.
I haven't played Path of Exile in a while, as much of the upgrading and such still feels overwhelming, but I'm watching this super excited, and I just reinstalled on my PS5. Honestly can't wait to try this out! I think RPGs suffer a lot from narcissism, insofar as the majority of the motivation is personal advancement, minmaxing stats, getting stronger solely for the purpose of one's own power and riches. And there some of that here, of course, I wouldn't expect it to go away, I wouldn't want it to, but building a city and delegating work to the people, gives it a feeling of not just benefiting myself but the citizens as well. This looks really awesome and kudos to GGG for putting so much effort into a League mechanic. Hopefully the city stays around after it's over, I'd love for that to be a permanent fixture, like some other systems have been. It's been amazing watching PoE grow and evolve and expand the ways that it has.
Since I started POE in the mid of Tota I’ve wanted to build Flicker Strike, but it was always either ridiculous cost or just garbage tier. Looks like I can league start Flicker this season!
This game never winning Labour Of Love on Steam is an absolute joke. I'm pretty certain no game ever have had this much content made after 1.0 release. Insanity!
Well that actually is an overview over an entire expansion + league. D4 expansion is $40 and seeling products is not that new and pretty common tbh. Not saying It's gonna be great. They have to deliver first.
They should make an extraction ARPG, like Escape from Tarkov but PoE, you get resources, leave on your boat and build a heck of a cool city. Then you craft your gear in your city.
The thing I notice between these chats and Blizzard, are that these guys give you absolute truckloads of meaningful content at a blistering pace, and if they put new stuff up it's not loot boxes, it's support packs, and I think that says a much better vibe since they are giving you thousands of hours of games, and if you wanna support them, you can, and you get some neat stuff to boot. I love this new league at the moment.
This is great. However, it would be nice if they allowed account transfer between consoles like Diablo IV. I played a lot of PoE and purchased a ton of stash tabs on the ps4 version but, woefully, will need to purchase them all again now that I’m focusing on playtime on the Xbox Series X. Transferring all of my characters from ps4 to Xbox in Diablo IV was a snap and oddly something not a single influencer has praised them for. Edit: Also, since PoE is mildly competitive with its seasons it would be nice if access to the new season would occur simultaneously on consoles and PC.
@@TheMusicolophile 1. The deal is already made. PoE 2 is another thing entirely. 2. When you buy MTX and support packs, the console stores want a % of that.
Why should they be emberassed? Do your think they are losing money? Do you think they are going ”oh no PoE has a huge update, what should we do”. If anything PoE fans are embarassing obsessing over what Blizzard does with Diablo.
@@baso1980 they should be embarrassed because they should at least be competing with a free game. It's news to nobody how big blizzard are as a company,.yet they produce a 2nd rate game. Of course their worried about what Poe puts out, they'd be retarded not to and their not idiots. They know how popular Poe became when diablo was released and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. They are business after all
@@baso1980 they should be embarrassed because their a huge developer with more experience than anyone else in the genre and they got it so drastically wrong. Of course they go "oh no".. they'd be retarded not to, they are a business after all and we all know how popular Poe became when D4 initially flopped. It's news to nobody
Me: completely lost within the existing game at all the mechanics but bee-bopping along with a smile on my face learning all the time. Also me: completely lost 1/2 way through the new league mechanic at all the mechanics but bee-bopping along with a smile on my face learning all the time. These people are multi-dimensional wizards, complexity within complexity.
The thing with PoE is that you miss 2 leagues and everyone is feeling the same as you right now. Just have to start somewhere and get the grasps of the core game, league mechanics being announced like that, none of us have any clue how it will turn out. That's what brings longevity tho, constantly learning new and evolving mechanics.
just go for it! it def feels overwhelming, but if you just go step by step it's not that hard. Most of us veterans players with thousands of hours don't fully know how every mechanic works and that's ok, you learn as you need that info to progress
I hope they keep this as part of the main game I really like this I was waiting to come back until poe 2 I haven't played for 5 leauges but this broke me I'm back
Look it might be scary to some ppl but hey don't be afraid of games. That's an odd choice. Be grateful that devs like this put out this much content for free
On the contrary, this is the _best_ league to get into for a new player to test the waters to see if they would enjoy PoE2, since a lot of the loose ideas they had for PoE2 are being added in.
Free on console and PC yes.... not crossplay though as most users play on PC but I expect numbers to keep rising for consoles going into the POE2 launch
Just as a precaution: Starting PoE specifically for the League is like learning a new language just to experience your favorite cuisine in a foreign country. That's a massive upfront investment to get a town built. Good luck.
it is, and in this patch they improved the console experience even further! Just keep in mind it doesnt launch at the same time as on PC so you will have to wait an additional week or two
Like even if some of these systems end up not working out it's still fucking incredible that we get to try them out. What a top notch freaking company, dude!
PoE = 1,000 hours to learn 1% of the game. D4 = 50 - 150 hours per season to get BiS gear and drop it til next season meant for casuals. I will NEVER play PoE because it's way to time consuming. I'd rather play a season of Diablo and move on.
@@Kanoog time consuming? nah. I play about 4-5hrs casually and I find it fun. Its only really time consuming if you want to be on the level of those top players.
This is equivalent to 4 Blizzard full priced expansions put into one GGG patch. Everyone already knows Last Epoch is better than Diablo too. And now GGG is reminding who’s the real boss.
@@vladamIILE is for the more casual ARPG crowd, and it succeeds at that. Plus, LE has an Offline mode, which is pretty nice. LE isn't PoE, but it isn't trying to be, either.
@@greggmacdonald9644 Lol, LE is big fail. Ive never played a worse game. Even diablo is much better than this. Off line mod has nothing to do with it. Just look at the charts. No one is playing it even a few days after the new season when it peaked.
@@vladamII Your experience is contrary to that of a lot of people. It's stable at about 27K players online (24 hr peak), so about 3x that of Diablo 4. I think your info might be out of date. Many streamers like Ziz are pretty positive about LE. It isn't PoE and isn't trying to be. It occupies a middle-ground between D4 and PoE and does that very well. You don't like it, fine, ok, no game will please everyone, after all.
@@DoubleMeatpalace they might, but honestly PoE is one of the few games where all the players seem super happy if not excited to support the devs by buying cosmetics and stuff. Judging on how much content GGG is pumping out while simultaneously developing poe2 their probably making bank.
Can't wait for this league and POE2. I'm a much older man who plays ARPGs (4.5k hours in POE and WAY more in all the Diablo games) and I take a little sh*t for it (too old to be playing video games, etc.)....but it keeps me young at heart. Really enjoy your videos, your knowledge and enthusiasm. Thanks much.
If you want to go all the way? Yes. Several. Made by the few people who did not go insane on their way to 'understanding the game'. To make a charakter, play and have fun? No. Not beeing an arpg-virgin is advised, though.
lol same feelings. In Legion it was tolerable though. WOD went too far, garrison played the game for you, it even brought raid gear to you. You could run the raid once and you would receive best in slot gear for the remainder of the patch which was mental. On top of mountains of gold and tradeskill materials every day. I hope they wont overdo it and poe wont turn into logging in to send followers that ship divines to you xd
Ye 3.0 was crazy, but the sheer amount of rework in this .... Ngl feels like they are competing with 3.0. at the end I was thinking: oh didn't know poe 2 is releasing next week 😂😂
Dude, them actually addressing and openly admitting their mistakes and miscalculations is refreshing AF with blizzard always being seemingly secretive and avoidant with it. Big fat W
What they have cooked for this league is just mind blowing. The amount of stuff they are adding to the game is totally insane, even only considering the league mechanic it is massive, but still they added even more changes to it. Can't wait
I've been wanting to jump on PoE 2 on day one, but figured I would go into PoE for a bit before release of the sequel, and it looks like I came at the right time! I will wait till launch of this new content and start from there. This all looks awesome!
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you should know that skipping "Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games" is a federal crime punished by life in D4 season 1.
believe it or not... jail.
@@harryharrison2010 i think jail is better than d4 season 1
@@pedro_feitosa NZ federal law doesn't apply to Americans though
@@Pre-Expatriatenah that shi is international
Then you got Blizzard showing off 1 new class in D4 for 1 hour and 30 minutes lmao XD
Yep, it took Mark 45 fucking minutes just to list all the changes, and this was the "downscoped" update. And it's a free game. This is how you push the genre.
I do think it's important to realize that the massive financial success (and utter disappointment) of D4 has definitely revitalized competition in the ARPG world.
Also that costs 70 plus bucks this is freee
A shitty class with ugly design that nobody even wanted and it costs 50$ xD, blizzard in a nutshell
@@molochzReally? Cuz I found Poe to be shit if you're not a no lifer. The game is overwhelming and boring asf.
😂😂
In general, I think ARPG tribalism is pretty dumb and I think all of the games have a place for a different audience, but you see this and you kind of get why POE fans are hard on D4. They do this much in one 4 month league development period and D4 has 3 times as much staff and gives you a new helltide. It is crazy to me how much they make every 3-4 months for POE. Absolutely insane.
With D4 I don't think it's all tribalism. Diablo 2 is probably my favorite game of all time, but I hate how Blizzard treats the Diablo franchise. I wish D4 was a good game.
@@vanillaice7749same here. I don't think I've gone longer than 6 months without playing Diablo 2 since it came out back in 2000. That's what makes it so disappointing that it's so soulless and corporate now, especially when comparing POE which is free to play and comes from a much smaller team with exponentially less resources and started without a beloved IP 😅
Holy crap! They built a whole new game inside the game.
Ayo dog we put a game inside of your game inside of your game inside of your game so you can be inside of your game inside of your game while you're inside of your game playing your game
It's only a matter of time that they will build DOOM inside POE.
@@jirawatp2677 That's for PoE2, they would have guns there.
The POE1 team wanted to compete with the POE2 team lol.
and in only 3 months
Blizzard devs: "We are doing a great job, wow look at all we do" GGG devs: "I dunno man.. balance is hard" "This is experimental and might suck" The ability to be realistic and self critical is a huge reason GGG is so trusted, beyond the fact of how much content they continue to deliver over and over.
this is the difference between being a game studio and a corporation milking a game.
this!
Yep! Crazy its not 90€ dlc right
Yes true...but only if we had more that 5 players when those others have 500000.
thats not completely true. this type of game appeals to the no lifers and not the casual gamers. so the hardcore bois might enjoy playing farmville in an arpg.
@@Roysphotos8 Diablo 4 Still bad
love how darth was like "i dont even have to see them, take my money" thats how you know u made/make a good game
Plus they never miss with the cosmetics either, always a safe bet that you'll be getting high quality MTX
Meanwhile over at Blizzard D4 team.
'We need 6months to add a stash tab'
Uh. Yeah, a NUKE is not an exaggeration. Holy sh1t.
It's the gaming equivalent of when K-dot dropped Meet The Grahams.
is shit not sh1t learn to type
Thanks
D4: drip feeds you content
Poe: drowns you in content
Johnathan from POE Q&A streams two months ago "Pretty sure we will NEVER have more than 5 map device slots"
Two months later "Fuck it, here's your 6th map device slot"
Here's a few extra map devices as well :D
@@QckSGaming Yeah, just hire goons to run maps for you. It's FINE!
Considering they added higher tier maps and now higher base gear/skill dmg, more difficulty matches.
I love how just mindblown DM is, and how hyped he is before they even GET TO THE HUGE MELEE BUFF.
I've watched this announcement and like 3 reactions I just can't get enough man
GGG single-handedly restoring my faith in the video game industry
D4: "here's some early footage a new class that's just what druid should've been from day 1. pls buy our expac for $40"
Poe: "here's our gargantuan new league mechanic that introduces multiple massive concepts to the game, finally a goddamn auction house, and we casually massively buffed and reworked the entire game itself and tons of its fundamental aspects. all in a free update before our even more massive free sequel coming soon with multiple amazing-looking all-new classes on top of our old ones which includes one of the more boring subclasses totally reinvented from the ground up this patch. ciao"
yeah. that's why i don't even think twice before buying COSMATIC microtransaction in poe.
more money for ggg, good spend money
But the class is nothing like druid though...they access power from different places...you didnt even watch the damn video
@@Troupe_MasterHe was likely refering to how druid should be a viable companion class with a lot of diversity
"Oh, by the way, build this fucking city."
I've always wanted to get into POE but was overwhelmed by the content I'm determined to give it my all for this patch.
Ironic since it added so much more
@krylesangerbeaver yea it is but looks to fun to pass up
my advice is to take things slow. There is alot, and I mean alot, of stuff in the game you wont need to even think until your dozens/hundreds of hours in. Follow a build guide if you dont mind it, and try and focus on only the most simple mechanics until you find something that catches your interest enough to dive a bit deeper.
this is the key to getting into poe guide or not. You don't have to understand everything all at once
If you like this genre, then I advise you to try it. The main thing is not to dive into all the content at once and not try to kill uber bosses with the 1st character (most likely he will not be able to do even regilar ones). You need to gradually learn the content and mechanics of the game.
I know this is a cliche at this point, but it really is amazing how unambitious this seasonal content makes D4’s full fledged expansion look.
Agreed. My biggest gripe with D4 is how it really doesn't seem to try exceeding expectations in the slightest.
I play a modded version of diablo 2, and im still confused how Blizz fumbled as hard as they did with Diablo 3.
@@charlespanache7047 Median? Modded D2 is GOAT.
I just posted basically the same thing. Watched both and it's fucking nuts
@charlespanache7047 D3s combat and leaderboards keeps competitive players coming back each season. It's great for a week or two blast.
D4 doesn't even have Pit leaderboards, that is pretty sad.
This is what happens when you don't lay off all your developers and ensure no one steals their breast milk
No this Is happen when you Are not bound to make all the dollars fór your investors.
@ChronicConundrum stash tabs are pay to win
@@jakubpelikan2393they are owned by TENCENT they are bound to make money for their investors, all companies are these aren’t charities but TENCENT just gives them a lot of freedom, I doubt they even know what’s going on with POE half the time but if they don’t make money they will be
@LymeGreen04 you can complete absolutely everything in the game without spending a $, and how 20$ onetime purchase is p2w?
@@LymeGreen04 Who are you winning against?
It makes me want to buy cosmetics to actually support the game because the things they are doing and the effort the already put in deserves it.
What’s crazy is this a free update. D4’s paid expansion is like 1/10th of this
1/10th is being very very generous to blizzard....
.3/10ths you mean lol
They added runes into their game before Blizzard.
The Background Quality of Life Improvements like Gold, Improved Trade Market, Div Cards on Map etc are what has me hyped. Even the passive income through shipping or npcs running maps for you. I have my criticisms but this dev team is awesome
This blows D4 out of the water. So much more content.
Yes but no 👀ツ
==>
A lot of people won't get much fun even from PoE 2 but the disappointment with Diablo IV is not being bad but not being "one of best ones" because it's achievible even with their rmodern esources/ 🤔
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So much content that it gets overwhelming for new and casual players
I just can't commit to PoE it's impossible for me. So, as interesting as this is, I'll never play it.
@@TheBassteban Why not just hop on and play it for a few hours? It's completely free you don't need to understand everything. Just play the game and have fun, and then you'll inevitably want to learn more and will learn more as you just play. If not, just wait for PoE2, which is apparently much more accessible as it won't have dozens of leagues worth of content already in the game when you first start.
Is there a release date?
If I was a member of Diablo IV team at Blizzard I would literally be on therapy to deal with my panic attacks every time GGG launches a league.
D4 is still more profitable than this boring mess, enjoying doing 10 acts all over again every 3 months
@@taln4725 Candy Crush Saga is more profitable than D4, so what?
@@taln4725 based on that Diablo Immortal is clearly the superior game lmfao
@@mackparker9064 It is actually, I am well over 1000 hours in it never spent anything, it has more content than all diablo games combined
@@taln4725 hahahaha lol fanboy
Farmville in POE before GTA6
Gta is overrated
i love when new league feed of previous league lore. in this case the mineral vein we collect are based in the vaal corruption, scourge demons, infested grows for bligth league, the lake of kalandra hexagons, and the heralds blue energy
its just them reusing assets to shave time but it feels like a natural addition insane devs
Yep, having the settlers be from Kalgur is nice too
Programmers: How much more complicated do you want us to make the game?
POE CEO : yes
they made their own engine from scratch so they have some really good developers on the team
Yup. Huge turnoff for me.
complicated?? this is the most ive understood from a league mech since ive started back during Crucible league.
D4 bad 😂
This league is stay in circle league!!!
This is absolute insanity and I'm ready for it, melee slam league finally.
never played slam? they were so broken a couple patches ago lol give it a try, taste the slam
@@trythis2006 I'm trying one every league after some currency is starting to flow, but finally be viable without totems sounds great!
This might actually be the perfect league for more casual players to get in to. The gold and currency trade is going to help people respec bricked characters a lot easier.
I hope there is a way to increase gold find, so i can just passively play the game. Might not be the most rewarding, but the most time efficient for me
@@Powermongur Since quantity has effectively been removed I don't know. Rarity might make the piles bigger since it doesn't have a direct upgrade. Even then it might just scale to the level of the zone you're in.
@@wintergloom5695 There is a chisel that increase currency drops. Maps also have quantity, so you can min-max for it. And juice maps with more stuff like strongboxes etc for more monsters. Wildwood also add quantity and maybe sentiel.
@@Powermongur Gotcha it's just removed from gear so that it's more of a generalized stat instead of build specific.
I haven't played this game in years I don't even remember what my class was. I know the game wss a bit confusing need a beginners guide
If this was a Blizzard release it would cost $300 and take 4 years to patch to a playable state 🙂
This game is 11 years old champ and it was horse shit for awhile before it got to this point. They aren't going for the same target audience. PoE is for people who want ONE game and to spend 1000 hours to learn a little bit. Diablo 4 is for a more casual player base, I'll NEVER play PoE because its the biggest time sink.
@@Kanoog His comment still stands though, there's a huge difference between the two studios, no matter your personal choice of game. I play both and get super bored in D4 after a few days, but that's me.
@@Kanoog So you won't play PoE, but you know it takes a 1000 hours to learn a little bit of it? Surely you can see how that makes no sense? PoE is nowhere near as difficult as people who know nothing about it believe.
Also, Diablo has been out for 28 years now, so it isn't like Blizzard are new to this. THEY chose to start from scratch with a team that had no clue how to make an ARPG. That's on them. Project Hades was the origins of D4, and that started around the beginning of 2014 before becoming Project Fenris in 2016, so it's not like they were rushed and forced to release an incomplete experience. They chose to release a game that was missing basic mechanics from D3. It took ~9 months to get a preview of enchant outcomes, FFS! How do you just forget to have that?
Anyway, back to the point I was alluding to; GGG release more content, for free, every 3 months than Blizzard have managed in the last year, all while working on PoE2 and with a far smaller studio.
GGG aren't achieving this because the studio is manned by superhumans, it's because they give a shit about their game, they listen to their playerbase (even if they have to go against the players' wishes sometimes for the good of he game) and they work hard.
The fact that GGG give eveything to the players for free, and then the players CHOOSE to pay for MTX to support the game should show you which game has the better relationship with their community. GGG have players, Blizzard have customers.
If Blizzard released D4 for free I would have maybe dropped a few dollars for season 2, because that showed progress, and maybe season 4, maybe. Everything else has been garbage.
Anyway, rant over. Please don't think I am annoyed at you, this is me being pissed at Blizzard. I love the Diablo franchise, have done since I first played back in 96 and I think it deserves better than what Acti/Blizz have turned it into.
It was horse shit until like 1.3 which was 7 or 8 months after release. @Kanoog
@@Kanoog Tell me when was PoE horseshit? It was fucking awesome since beta. Blizzard soyboy detected.
This all started when a group of guys wanted to make an aRPG because they were tired of the lack of new releases in the genre and if I remember right. They never charged for the game, or any expansions it has had. I mean yes they have the QoL things you really kinda wanna buy, but I got started on console lol so got used to it 😂
Geez this compared to the diablo 4 announcements.... poe free btw.
poe is absolutely not free. i use to have a wife.. home.. kids.. (jk, but seriously)
@@slumberspeaki can relate dude lmao
YOU WANT BROKEN BETA GAME YOU PAY!
@@slumberspeakit is btw, dude is getting up voted by Diablo mains
To be fair, with this update having afk gatherers, youll need to buy stash tabs. So not really free if u want to play beyond the tutorial phase.
GGG continues to put triple-A studios to shame
LOL.
Kingsmarch is actually the name of the city/hub for act 3 in POE 2 IIRC.
Which is pretty cool ngl
I m calling it now, king of kalguur is gonna be one of the bosses in Poe 2 😅
Havent played since expedition league. Hyped to come back for this! This looks absolutely unreal.
Power move on the same day as the spirit born reveal! Savage
Actually if I’m not mistaken, ggg announced this date before blizzard did, blizzard tried to power move and failed
@@TheRahyah Blizzard has done this multiple times. They keep purposely putting their announcements and leagues on the same day or immediately soon after GGG's shit.
@@Deminese2 they are suicidal xd "punish me more daddy * sets date before POE release* "
Man, I was originally going to go magic this league but gawd damn melee = log in dude. Edit: for those saying it might be too confusing or overwhelming to start PoE, I started in Affliction league (2 leagues ago) and I am having a blast. I understand only like 20% of the game but it is enough for me to get to red/purple maps and have a great time.
I agree. Heck, I've never even made it to the end game despite playing off and on for about 1.5 years. I drop in for new leagues. Try stuff out like different classes and different builds. In addition to whatever the new league mechanics are. And it's still great. It's the game I play when I'm tired of TV, books, or gacha games and just want to sit down for a few hours and have some mindless fun. I go through streaks where I play for weeks. And some where I play for a day or two and that's all. Don't be overwhelmed by potential complexity, as you can enjoy game immensely without knowing almost any of it.
understanding 20% of the game makes you a pro lol.
I started nearly 6 years ago after Diablo Immortal was announced, and I understand about 15% of the game, so you're doing great 😀
@JimOMoore can you tell me a bit about it. I played it before years ago for like 5 months. I totally forgot how to play don't remember what class I had
Imagine being this blunt not to admit the greatness of PoE as some dingleberries pointed out in the comment section. The amount of commitment PoE does no other aRPG can do, nor ever will.
It’s not that players don’t aknwoledge the work. It’s simply not a fun nor good game for casual players. PoE do ton of work but it’s a game for hardcore fans. Maybe the second game will change this.
@@baso1980 it is definitely a hard game to get into.
But there are casual players that like the complexity and the feel of the game. We know that because most people don't actually reach endgame.
Not everyone needs to be able to do the hardest content in a game as big as this one. You can have fun whenever you are.
Sure its hard and overwhelming that many things, but every PoE player started like that and they stick to the game and learn every league sth new. Sure if u wonna play braindead dann go to d4
@@baso1980 Correction, it's not fun for you. I'm a fairly casual player, you don't need to know every detail to play this game.
I think the currency market and respec with gold is really what I want. I enjoy Diablo 4 and I always will but I'll be joining POE this league after taking last off
Gold to respec passive points! fuck yes!
I literally tried to get into Poe last league but found out melee builds were trash so I fell off, it’s like they knew. I’ll definitely try to get into this game again
Melee has been in a bad spot for a long time. It was now or never.
I hope you do, and I hope you have an enormous amount of fun.
Can’t wait to waste my life on this game😁
Definitely worth it xD
For reallll
Spend your life*
Time enjoyed wasted is not wasted time.
This is embarrassing for blizzard this is what happens when all your resources go into the actual game not just marketing cinematics just made the switch from diablo to poe and God damn don't know why I didn't switch over sooner
D4 could never
Fortunately !
They would just lose an insane amount of players if they tried.
@@sonoftristram casual games can in fact still have content in them from the billion dollar studio. the two aren't mutually exclusive, it doesn't have to be sleep inducing hell tide recolor #45 if you actually have ideas for your $70 video game with season passes and paid expansions. Blizzard titles should be held to astronomically higher standards than Last Epoch and POE, not the opposite given the resources they have.
@@dystopiabeach money doesn't make good content.
PoE and LE would be nothing without player feedback, that's what got them on the track they are now.
Player retention at LEs release also didn't really speak about great motivating content
@@sonoftristram and yet it's a $35 box price game with all other updates for free that has more depth of both characters and content. how do you expect D4 to retain players when there's objectively nothing to do? it's going to have a 2 year head start and POE2 is still going to drop with more build options (independent of any system complexity, just pure character variety), endgame bosses, etc day one, it's pathetic for a full price supposedly AAA game. D4 has nothing to offer the second you roll credits on story which is antithetical to everything that makes ARPGs great.
If you look at GGG's financial statements from 2022 and 2023, you can see how they are investing a lot of their revenue on PoE2 to put a lot of resources/money into making better content - I'd argue that money does make good content when in the right hands, especially when you are a more agile, experienced company like GGG where gameplay comes first and you are run by seasoned, hardcore ARPG players.
ummm recombos back, trader, new bases, new crafting, ports from rs3, new boss, jesus.... this league might be the best league they've ever had.
GGG is just amazing. LE last update was incredible, but this is even better and free.
Meanwhile, D4 shows only 1 new class that will cost 40$+
What a joke D4 is so far (even though the Spiritborne DOES look amazing).
The class can't be bought, it's the expansion that cost 40$, the class is just a part of it.
It's awesome how GGG still can put these out for free and I love them for it.
The first 3 minutes of this had me hyped af! This league looks fn amazing
Settlers of Catan league is gonna go crazy
I haven't played Path of Exile in a while, as much of the upgrading and such still feels overwhelming, but I'm watching this super excited, and I just reinstalled on my PS5. Honestly can't wait to try this out! I think RPGs suffer a lot from narcissism, insofar as the majority of the motivation is personal advancement, minmaxing stats, getting stronger solely for the purpose of one's own power and riches. And there some of that here, of course, I wouldn't expect it to go away, I wouldn't want it to, but building a city and delegating work to the people, gives it a feeling of not just benefiting myself but the citizens as well.
This looks really awesome and kudos to GGG for putting so much effort into a League mechanic. Hopefully the city stays around after it's over, I'd love for that to be a permanent fixture, like some other systems have been. It's been amazing watching PoE grow and evolve and expand the ways that it has.
This looks insane, completely blown away.
Man Blizzard are getting fucking dunked on right now.
To be fair this update for a season is completely unprecedented, especially for an already considered great game
Everyone: Diablo could never
DM: *Flute Salad intensifies*
Since I started POE in the mid of Tota I’ve wanted to build Flicker Strike, but it was always either ridiculous cost or just garbage tier. Looks like I can league start Flicker this season!
Slayer with Oro's sacrifice is fine though. It is lacking compared to top level investment (shako ice bite raider), but I won't say it's garbage.
this is a 3 month league? not an 80$ expansion? :x
This game never winning Labour Of Love on Steam is an absolute joke. I'm pretty certain no game ever have had this much content made after 1.0 release. Insanity!
Well that actually is an overview over an entire expansion + league.
D4 expansion is $40 and seeling products is not that new and pretty common tbh.
Not saying It's gonna be great.
They have to deliver first.
Do you know why its for free? Maybe start thinking.
@@vladamIIWhy? Im thinking really hard
@@vladamII can you tell me why? Im too dumb to think for myself.
The use of the language “whole ass town” is something Blizz would never do nowadays. Genuine human interaction > woke corporate bullshit
its not even "woke" their from new zealand you cant get much more left leaning then that. its just corpo bureaucracy
" I don't know man... Balance is hard!!" :D
"Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games. Today we will gut D4's throat with our new league." - Chris Wilson said calmly.
They should make an extraction ARPG, like Escape from Tarkov but PoE, you get resources, leave on your boat and build a heck of a cool city. Then you craft your gear in your city.
The thing I notice between these chats and Blizzard, are that these guys give you absolute truckloads of meaningful content at a blistering pace, and if they put new stuff up it's not loot boxes, it's support packs, and I think that says a much better vibe since they are giving you thousands of hours of games, and if you wanna support them, you can, and you get some neat stuff to boot.
I love this new league at the moment.
"So many facebook moms are going to like this league" is absolutely the funniest thing i've heard in my life LOLOLOL!
Makes me think of Cult of the Lamb how you have your base building in between combat runs.
This is great. However, it would be nice if they allowed account transfer between consoles like Diablo IV. I played a lot of PoE and purchased a ton of stash tabs on the ps4 version but, woefully, will need to purchase them all again now that I’m focusing on playtime on the Xbox Series X. Transferring all of my characters from ps4 to Xbox in Diablo IV was a snap and oddly something not a single influencer has praised them for. Edit: Also, since PoE is mildly competitive with its seasons it would be nice if access to the new season would occur simultaneously on consoles and PC.
This is difficult because of the console stores (mtx) and the game being free.
But I think you can use the same PoE 2 character on PC and consoles.
@@maudjito Console stores? Again, you can transfer all of your characters in Diablo IV between all consoles and PC.
*facepalm*
@@penckok1832 What’s the facepalm for? Just for the heck of it?
@@TheMusicolophile 1. The deal is already made. PoE 2 is another thing entirely.
2. When you buy MTX and support packs, the console stores want a % of that.
Around 67k viewer peak at d4 class announcement on twitch and pOE had aeound 311k viewer on peak yesterday
this is the final nail in the coffin for d4 bad. finally.
During that time, Blizzard is still wondering what they will do with yellow items...
I’m ready! LOGIN!
GGG and Larian Studio have something in common, make a great game and it will be successful. What a crazy concept right?
After the Plethora of diablo 4 dissapointments, this is great to see. Blizzard should be embarrassed
Why should they be emberassed? Do your think they are losing money? Do you think they are going ”oh no PoE has a huge update, what should we do”. If anything PoE fans are embarassing obsessing over what Blizzard does with Diablo.
@@baso1980 they should be embarrassed because they should at least be competing with a free game. It's news to nobody how big blizzard are as a company,.yet they produce a 2nd rate game. Of course their worried about what Poe puts out, they'd be retarded not to and their not idiots. They know how popular Poe became when diablo was released and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. They are business after all
@@baso1980 they should be embarrassed because their a huge developer with more experience than anyone else in the genre and they got it so drastically wrong. Of course they go "oh no".. they'd be retarded not to, they are a business after all and we all know how popular Poe became when D4 initially flopped. It's news to nobody
Me: completely lost within the existing game at all the mechanics but bee-bopping along with a smile on my face learning all the time. Also me: completely lost 1/2 way through the new league mechanic at all the mechanics but bee-bopping along with a smile on my face learning all the time. These people are multi-dimensional wizards, complexity within complexity.
It looks awesome, but for a new player like me, so overwhelming, systems everywhere. I'm scared.
The thing with PoE is that you miss 2 leagues and everyone is feeling the same as you right now. Just have to start somewhere and get the grasps of the core game, league mechanics being announced like that, none of us have any clue how it will turn out. That's what brings longevity tho, constantly learning new and evolving mechanics.
Just do it xd
In the same boat as you but I am intrigued as much as intimidated.
just go for it! it def feels overwhelming, but if you just go step by step it's not that hard. Most of us veterans players with thousands of hours don't fully know how every mechanic works and that's ok, you learn as you need that info to progress
I was overwhelmed but it turned out to be more like a buffet of delicious content rather than a stack of books.
"We hope to achieve the impossible... we hope to build... a home." I don't like THAT much reality in my game!
Kingsmarch, the town you help build in this next league, will be the hub town for Act 3 in POE 2. So we'll get to see how it turns out in the end.
This completely blew the D4 xpac info out of the water.
This is why at 500+ hours I still feel like a noob. They’ve been doing this for years, mad lads
I hope they keep this as part of the main game I really like this I was waiting to come back until poe 2 I haven't played for 5 leauges but this broke me I'm back
They're so savage for this. Brilliant strategy. They knew the expansion was being announced today for d4. Genius.
It's the other way around. Poe announced this livestream before d4. Blizzard tried to drown them, instead, they're the ones that got drowned.
Look it might be scary to some ppl but hey don't be afraid of games. That's an odd choice. Be grateful that devs like this put out this much content for free
I wonder how far POE2 is now, getting into POE1 now wouldn't make much sense as a new player.
This is where I'm at.
it absolutely would, every league is like a new game. Plus you will learn a lot of league mechanics that will be in POE2. Just jump in.
On the contrary, this is the _best_ league to get into for a new player to test the waters to see if they would enjoy PoE2, since a lot of the loose ideas they had for PoE2 are being added in.
Go for it, Exile.
@@ninetailedfox579121 I've been considering the same as well. Is maxroll content as good as it is for D4?
Blizzard: *struggles with stash space*
GGG: *makes this*
Is this on console? I might play it just to try out the settlement building aspect.
Free on console and PC yes.... not crossplay though as most users play on PC but I expect numbers to keep rising for consoles going into the POE2 launch
I play PoE on xbox game pass. It's pretty freaking good.
Just as a precaution: Starting PoE specifically for the League is like learning a new language just to experience your favorite cuisine in a foreign country. That's a massive upfront investment to get a town built. Good luck.
it is, and in this patch they improved the console experience even further! Just keep in mind it doesnt launch at the same time as on PC so you will have to wait an additional week or two
Poe console port is horrible
Like even if some of these systems end up not working out it's still fucking incredible that we get to try them out. What a top notch freaking company, dude!
This for free or $40 for one jungle druid. Hard choice.
😂 FR
It is not a dichotomy. I will play both.
PoE = 1,000 hours to learn 1% of the game.
D4 = 50 - 150 hours per season to get BiS gear and drop it til next season meant for casuals.
I will NEVER play PoE because it's way to time consuming. I'd rather play a season of Diablo and move on.
@@Kanoog time consuming? nah. I play about 4-5hrs casually and I find it fun. Its only really time consuming if you want to be on the level of those top players.
INSANE. The new true milestone to ARPGs. Hope that gets permanent into the game.
This is equivalent to 4 Blizzard full priced expansions put into one GGG patch.
Everyone already knows Last Epoch is better than Diablo too. And now GGG is reminding who’s the real boss.
Yeah, last epoch, the perfect game nobody plays.
@@vladamIILE is for the more casual ARPG crowd, and it succeeds at that. Plus, LE has an Offline mode, which is pretty nice. LE isn't PoE, but it isn't trying to be, either.
@@greggmacdonald9644 Lol, LE is big fail. Ive never played a worse game. Even diablo is much better than this. Off line mod has nothing to do with it. Just look at the charts. No one is playing it even a few days after the new season when it peaked.
@@vladamII Your experience is contrary to that of a lot of people. It's stable at about 27K players online (24 hr peak), so about 3x that of Diablo 4. I think your info might be out of date. Many streamers like Ziz are pretty positive about LE. It isn't PoE and isn't trying to be. It occupies a middle-ground between D4 and PoE and does that very well. You don't like it, fine, ok, no game will please everyone, after all.
:50 "So many Facebook mom's are gonna love this league" God damn it DM, you almost caused me to get root beer up my nose!
Count your days blizzard.
Nah, they'll be alright.
As long as they make 'badass cinematics' they'll be alright.
You morons keep saying that and blizzard still laughs on the way to the bank.
Blizzard might make more off the sale of the expansion than PoE has made overall. I think they'll be ok. That doesn't mean PoE isn't better.
@@molochz You probably laughed when you wrote that.
@@DoubleMeatpalace they might, but honestly PoE is one of the few games where all the players seem super happy if not excited to support the devs by buying cosmetics and stuff. Judging on how much content GGG is pumping out while simultaneously developing poe2 their probably making bank.
Can't wait for this league and POE2. I'm a much older man who plays ARPGs (4.5k hours in POE and WAY more in all the Diablo games) and I take a little sh*t for it (too old to be playing video games, etc.)....but it keeps me young at heart. Really enjoy your videos, your knowledge and enthusiasm. Thanks much.
Meanwhile Last Epoch can’t even keep their servers up
These update notes are longer than a CVS receipt. Holy cow.
Do I need to use a spreadsheet to make a character?
If you want to go all the way? Yes. Several. Made by the few people who did not go insane on their way to 'understanding the game'.
To make a charakter, play and have fun? No.
Not beeing an arpg-virgin is advised, though.
follow a build guide watch some videos and enjoy learning new things about the game
Pretty much, but luckily there are tools available. Get Path of Building and look up a good build.
A custom one, yes. Or just follow a build guide that looks fun to you
They saw Cult of Lamb and said “Let’s do that!” Def a good model to copy
Cant wait to spend real money on dumb microtransactions with a big smile on my face because I literally just do it because I want to support GGG.
Shut up and take my money!
But the skins look really cool 😂
@@kuja5809 truth be told, I mostly just want some mtx to hide ugly stuff like charges, fortify, impale, etc. But hey, cant have it all!
I hope they will keep this as core of PoE 1 and PoE 2 🎉
D4 drops a class they basically already have. PoE drops a new game
The amount of content they released in this is absolutely unbelievable.
Looks cool but unfortunately I've already got a full time job.
I don't buy cosmetics, but I might actually get some or some extra stash tabs. Just because this update is amazing.
yeah wow Garisson ^^
lol that's what I thought of too. Especially the part about sending your followers to maps to passively get rewards.
Let's hope we are not getting stacked on the loading screen into it like we did on the release of WoD garisson 😂
lol same feelings. In Legion it was tolerable though. WOD went too far, garrison played the game for you, it even brought raid gear to you. You could run the raid once and you would receive best in slot gear for the remainder of the patch which was mental. On top of mountains of gold and tradeskill materials every day.
I hope they wont overdo it and poe wont turn into logging in to send followers that ship divines to you xd
@@alewis514 I trust that they saw what Blizzard did and thought "we can make that way better." But the similarities are definitely there.
It's massive but I still think the patch 3.00 was the most crazy to me - everyone though we would get an act more and we got SIX (Fall of Oriath)
Ye 3.0 was crazy, but the sheer amount of rework in this .... Ngl feels like they are competing with 3.0. at the end I was thinking: oh didn't know poe 2 is releasing next week 😂😂
Who cares? Garbage game is garbage. Frosty and all us Superfans know there is only one true arpg! 🤪
Could've at least tried to ragebait a bit better
@@hristiansarmov8118 Nah, PoE fans are too easy, this was just for my comedic relief. 😁
Thats some quality react content. 90% of a time sitting in his chat with his eyes and only saying "Oh my god!" when chat starts to pog 👌
Dude, them actually addressing and openly admitting their mistakes and miscalculations is refreshing AF with blizzard always being seemingly secretive and avoidant with it.
Big fat W
I love how you just looked outright exhausted halfway through. xD
What they have cooked for this league is just mind blowing. The amount of stuff they are adding to the game is totally insane, even only considering the league mechanic it is massive, but still they added even more changes to it. Can't wait
I've been wanting to jump on PoE 2 on day one, but figured I would go into PoE for a bit before release of the sequel, and it looks like I came at the right time! I will wait till launch of this new content and start from there. This all looks awesome!
Make sure to follow guide on sites like Maxroll or poe-vaults as it wikl help u out a lot as a new player.