This needs to STOP!
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This needs to STOP - Nik discusses the recent event at an Architect's gig in Adelaide where a fan rushes the stage and hurled vile insults at the band
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*Remember to treat people with respect*
U know what they are god tier live can confirm Because they came from the Best place in England which is Brighton \M/ I am glad to hear that they powered on and that they are well; RIP Tom Searle his loss hit me hard too.
I thought you were talking about the soad album
Unless they do reaction videos.
This is what is sorely missed, especially on the internet.
no matter what you think of a band, you never have the right to go and insult them after they have lost one of their band members and best friends
They lost him years ago though.
@@ShitYourself7 so what? it’s still fuckin rude
@@jayayvee_music people have opinions. He doesnt like their current music i guess. Don't need to be triggered.
@@ShitYourself7 doesn’t need to be triggered? Where’s your morals, man. A dude rushed on stage and hurled insults at the band. That’s not having an opinion, that’s being a vile human being
I can't imagine how Dan must feel about this situation, to lose your twin brother to cancer and then have a bunch of degenerates act like they knew him and honor him (while actively shitting on his legacy) more than you do.
Absolutely no way that is ever acceptable under any circumstances
No band is obligated to make music you like. Period. Art comes from inspiration, and the more honest that inspiration is the better. If you don't like the art that an artist makes, there are hundreds if not thousands of other artists to choose from. And that's not even including the utterly disgraceful and inhuman way some "fans" insult Tom's memory by invoking his name for their selfishness. Tom was not just a guitar player in a band. He was a human being who was loved by his family and friends.
couldnt agree more with this🙌
ive always seen people shitting on artists because they dont make the right type of music, like okay? go listen to a band that has that music and ignore this one
Saw them the following night in Melbourne and Sam stopped and talked about mental health. He’s such a good human need more men to stop and speak up
Saw Them In Melbourne Crowd Thought This Was An Utter Disgrace
I was at this gig and stunned when it happened. I'd heard about the Tom comments before the albums and didn't think anyone would extend it something like this. I'm grateful Dan was not on this stage (he was dealing with some personal things back home so couldn't play, which I 100% understand.) Mad respect for Sam, josh and everyone on stage for performing the rest of the show. They then went into 'these colours don't run' which was the oldest song on the set.
a shocking amount of people fail to realize that musicians are human beings too. to treat a band as poorly as this is absolutely disgusting.
People get treated poorly all the time , musicians or not
A shocking amount of people refuse to believe that once someone is famous, they're still fucking humans. Like everyone wants to complain and be all upset and say they deserve it because they're famous or because someone has a lot of money. Like no. Like I've seen people actually defend paparazzi that litterally hid in bushes at parks to take pictures of the young children of celebrities. That just because they have famous parents (or have had a starring role here or there themselves,) that it's okay. Like I forget who the celebrity was but yrs and yrs ago I remember reading an interview with a celebrity that mentioned how they had caught paparazzi that had climbed the side of theor house and was trying to take pictures of them AND their family ith in the bathroom. And I remember people defend those actions because since the person was famous that they "asked for it." Like no. Fuck that noise.
I think people just forget that others are humans too and are deserving of every bit of respect and grace that's being demanded.
I'm happy to say I was at the Sydney show and the band and the crowd were fucking amazing. Even when Sam talked to the crowd for five minutes about mental health during the set there was so much good feels between him and crowd it was amazing. Incredible live band. Also glad to say that Thornhill were insanely good too, after your recent video on them.
Man, that catch 22 comment is literally the same kind of thinking that, when a woman gets assaulted, puts part of blame on her for wearing a skirt or some shit. Absolutely insane take
It's not the same. If you're a public figure, it's gonna happen no matter what. That being said, being raped and blamed for what you're wearing is not the same as being told your new music sucks.
@Ash Creek Jfc I didn't say one equals the other, I said it's the same kind of thinking and mentality. These people aren't "trading in their humanity and privacy" for fame, as the comment said. They are simply doing what they love, and it just happens that what they love is popular. How does that mean they deserve to be treated with any less respect to their humanity and privacy just because they make music?
If you don't see how the two relate, not in the actual impact and action, but the state of mind, then idk what to tell you aside from you need to look at things differently, from the perspective of someone who has respect and empathy.
That's exactly right. People who have that mindset, especially those who blame women for being assaulted, are just as bad as the perpetrators.
I can think of a few bands where if someone tried to pull off some stupid stunt like that, it wouldn't go as smooth, graceful and mature as this did.
Like the belligerent asshole who ran up on Maynard during a Tool show and got flipped lmao
@@infamousinferno2506 Yup. Or Dave Mustaine kicking a guy in the face before he actually manages to get onstage.
I would've clapped if that guy got punched
The fact that this happened in my country is so embarrassing... I saw them play not long after Tom passed and there was a lot of emotion in the air that night. Sam teared up when the room chanted Tom's name. Besides evolving as a band with more new material, have people actually considered some of the old songs might be too painful to play now? How they grieve and honour the guy is up to them, because they were the ones who really knew him.
Honestly would've loved a heart-to-heart talk about mental health during a show back in the day. Often times we forget our own humanity, or refuse to even face it. I'm sure his brother would be very proud. RIP
I really enjoy new Architects. I personally find it great. I also thank the bands I see live for coming to my area to perform because it just makes sense to me. Great video, Nik & crew.
This makes me wanna see Architects live even harder (never seen them live before).
People forget at the end of the day these artists are people, they need to be treated with respect. Dont like the music? Dont listen, simple as that.
Being an Adelaide resident, I'm so annoyed and embarrassed for us that some insensitive flog has had a major flaw in logical thinking, causing this shit to happen. Respect each other.
Musicians and especially athletes getting treated terribly is awful especially in front of them is just awful. Makes no sense why people think they're entitled to treat them sub humanly because they're famous. Just respect each other
Their latest material hasn't really been up my alley (though I do still vibe with it sometimes!) but I will always respect their tenacity to keep moving forward past the tragic and untimely death of Tom. And I commend Sam for dropping fire on the mic in more way than one on this night. Fuck that loser who rushed them on stage.
Average r/metalcore subscriber
I was at this gig in Adelaide it was my first time seeing them live and I hadn't really listened to much of them prior. A friend of mine gave me two free tickets due to a change of circumstances for them and I couldnt thank them enough!, honestly one of my favourite live concerts I've attended! It sucked when that guy rushed the stage and I was in genuine concern for Josh (sylosis is my fave) and the band but they handled it so freaking well and the rest of the gig was absolutely kick ass! Not to mention the awareness for mental health they shine a light on. Safe to say I'm a definite fan now. ✌️
Hearing that Architects is god tier live just makes me somehow even MORE excited to see them next month. I'm gonna lose my fuckin mind!!
after multiple delays, the last show in germany recently with northlane and sleep token was just phenomenal, they even played some acoustic songs and he gave a little mental health speech too. sam and his colleagues are fantastic. keep your silly opinion about how you dont like a couple of the new songs to yourself or keep it online, bands do notice afterall, wether it be comments or less plays on whichever platform.
I was at this concert and after they ran on stage and the lights were out the whole crowd started singing
HEEEEY! HEY BABY!
(Huu-haa)
I wanna know oh oh! If you'll be my girl!
It was legendary
Very articulate video Nik! Mad respect.
"Mission passed respect+" 😂😂😂😂 I'm dying
Regardless if you like their new music or not, disrespecting their hard work and dedication to the band and a deceased member is NEVER ok.
How did the pimple get on stage? Haven't venues figured how to do their job yet
That's another reminder what a shit world we live in
Was at their Melbourne show the next night, it was absolutely incredible. Had no idea this had happened, fuckin ashamed of Aussie crowds tbh.
Who the fuck has a hundred bucks to throw away on yelling awful shit at strangers? I can’t fathom having that much hate, especially over music. Fortunately(?) Dan wasn’t there for it, not that it’s not horrible for the rest of them, but imagine hearing that about your literal twin brother. Disgraceful.
Now before everyone craps on Australia for this; it happened in Adelaide, we hate everyone there too.
One thing I can't seem to understand about people is that if you don't like a band, don't listen to them anymore. You make the choice to listen to them.
Exactly
Shit broke my heart. Some dude at the show in Ludwigsburg in January kept on interrupting Sam in his speeches, yelling for old songs. We were all fucking pissed but Sam handled it like a champ
Sam handled that in the best way possible. No tolerance for disrespect
"you'd have to be stoned to not cry" jokes on you, I cry more when I'm stoned.
I hate this kind of stuff so much. This is so ruthlessly heartless for no reason.
You wonder if he asked for an autograph while he was up there?
This is just gross people need to fucking grow up, good for Sam being a good dude and speaking up on this
Dude that is beyond disrespectful. Well said Sam, Nick and long live Tom. There's no excuse and that's a lite version of what happened to Dime. 🤘🏾
Perfect Blue reminded me that fans can potentially be your worst enemies
Not me looking at the thumbnail and thinking this was about SOAD 😪
This was so fucked up. I saw all the clips and I’m rlly glad u addressed this
I've noticed that "fans" think they are entitled to do whatever they want to the artist, I've seen What they do to ppl like Andy Biersack, yes he's a beautiful person but The things they used to do to him is Basically SXL ASLT, grabbing his private areas, stripping off his clothes, ripping out his hair.... How do they think that's ok? Artist are PPL human beings 😢
Stay Classy Adelaide
Respect for Sam. He´s good tier.
Insane that this is 2023....
At a Mgk concert I would let it slide, but a architects concert.. fuck no
I just don't understand why people were booing when he was talking.
If I was the architects I would of pulled an axle rose and walk off the stage early
That is so disheartening to hear, I am very concerned about humans if they really think this is a way to behave; I feel so sorry to the band
You are a class act sir 👍
Nik could you do a video on the Metal Juno nominations please?
Damn that's vile 😕 why are there humans like this
Back in the day i got bullied because of my mom who died when i was 11. It was hell.
I totally agree with you
It's terrible what some people think is acceptable.
Architects are the coolest guys too. Anyone coming at them wrong is just a peckerhead.
I love Architects, and Sam is such a sweet man. F*ck the guy that did that. The amount of time he swore, so British, go on lad. Hope they're doing OK.
It’s one thing to not like a bands new material and just saying “eh this isn’t really for me” and it’s another to be an outright horrible piece of shit to people who are just trying to do something they enjoy. It’s so disgusting and disrespectful and no one deserves this shit.
I wouldn’t have been at all surprised if they just quit right there.
Heard a story about a female streamer who got deepfaked into some corn. She was crying her eyes out when she made a statement. People suck sometimes...
parasocial relationships are also in the vtuber community to the point it gets extreme, for example the whole uruha rushia situation where she was roleplaying the girlfriend role but got backlash and harrassment when she was messaged by the famous japanese singer named mafumafu and to this day when i see her name or vtuber model fanarts i end up getting upset and have to distract myself from the negativity that happened to her
Yeah not to mention that one time Towa got hit with that like two years earlier. Though tbf I guess in Japan it was mostly encouraged of idols to do this anyway so there's that. Pretty sure most of the JP girls don't collab with at least Stars knowing that's usually how it works, although Sora loves the guys and she's the most idol-like so, meh. There was also this discourse when the EN guys came out and with that you, can't excuse it as experiencing a culture shock (for lack of a better term) this time.
Man that's so fucked up, I saw them in Brisbane the other night with my brother but I had no idea this had happened. I've not been an architects fan for that long so i don't know a lot of their old stuff but one silver lining is they fucking killed it on stage. Even songs like Tear Gas - which i really enjoy but i know a lot of people didn't enjoy as much - went fucking off. My neck is still sore two days later and holy shit did it feel good to do some power stomps to that song. Felt like i was Isaac Clarke from Dead Space pulverizing a necromorph to that shit
We're not going to make it, are we?
It's really heartbreaking how hateful people can be, and the internet giving us this infinite access to say whatever we want with usually no huge repercussions has definitely made it easier to be that way. Couple that with the sheer unwarranted entitlement you see a lot of nowadays and it's a recipe for disaster like this. I'm glad Josh and Sam weren't hurt.
I don't like the direction Architects went with their new music, but like, okay? I just won't listen to it. I'll listen to their old stuff. I don't get the rationalization behind creating an entire vendetta against them as people.
I hate that this is what my city is known for in the scene now :)
Cultists are cray cray
I'll admit, the direction they went with their music is so far from something I enjoy, but I'd never treat them that way.
I’ll never understand how people feel like it’s okay to do this type of behavior. If you don’t like something (in this case music) just don’t listen to it, or don’t go to a concert. You have plenty of power to listen to the material you do like
Insulting a beloved person who passed is just fucking awful. Entitled people are the absolute worst. I’m not fan of Architect’s new material but you couldn’t pay me to try and pull something like that. People need to learn basic respect. It isn’t hard
Handled like a mature adult 👍, because he's NOT Axl Rose...
I seen them live for the first time back in November when they toured with biffy clyro and I was hoping to see some old stuff as well as new (they only played the new stuff), but they were AMAZING. When I see things happen like this I just want them to write another album like the one they just made or anything that let's them evolve as a band. Not everyone has to like everything a band releases but behaviour like this is childish and pathetic
Red Shoes = Illuminati. It's obvious they sold out 🤣
These sort of people is why Eeyore by Slipknot exists XD
Makes me sad to see this kind of shit. If a band changes their sound to something you don't care for, just... don't listen? I'll be honest their latest album didn't do much for me, so I just... choose not to listen. I don't go on social media and belittle them, or go to concerts and heckle them, I just... listen to other music and check out their new singles.
They've been dealing with this stuff for ages, it's disgusting. I had BBC Radio 1 on in the car before, Sam was being interviewed and he got upset because of this. All the things people say about Tom is awful. Clearly not "fans", more like arseholes.
As a massive Architects fan I’m not a huge fan of the new album but that does not give you the right to disrespect the band over that shit these people are human beings who’s jobs is to entertain the public if you don’t like it don’t listen to it
Sounds good, doesn't work. You can't expect everyone to be nice and chill. Shit happens
Look at what fans did to Dime bag.
I hate how people do this I love earlier Architects and I just got into deathcore but I still love their newer not as heavy stuff I also wrote them a message on IG about it (about how I like their newer stuff as much as their earlier stuff) last week because I kept seeing hate for their newer stuff. I hate how people gotta say ish to them because they think or heard (from others) that their album wasn't how they used to sound. But going on stage and doing that ish is something I haven't seen yet and I hate it. Person probably thought everyone would be with them on that, no, fork off.
Sorry for the text wall I just had to say what I think about it.
If a band made music that just I liked or just you or just nick we would never have learned new music that's ridiculous that's repulsive dude that someone did that
Nik Niceturnal
I can guarantee most of if not all of the people saying shit like this aren't creatives. Cos they clearly have no idea what it is to be an artist, and that tastes change.
Personally I don't like new architects, I find it a bit bland and the lyricism is a bit generic in my opinion. But I have a lot of respect for what they do because I understand that they're not the same people that they were when lost forever//lost together came out. And that era of music hasn't gone anywhere. I am able to go back to it when ever I want.
R.I.P Tom ❤
Come on guys...1) Respect the band. 2) Most of the bands you knew and loved are in their 30-40s now and don't want to make angsty emo music for teens anymore.
Its disgusting, people need to be careful n keep an eye out in society for real these days, dangerous psych0s walking free everywhere now
I think most people would agree on the fact that yea, Architects isn't the same since Tom passed BUT at the same time we all kind of understand why that is. And although I personally don't enjoy their new style/sound, it is entirely fucking despicable to go and do something like this to them. Like, if a band sells out and they just suck? Sure, scream away. But these guys lost a key piece of their family and I think that makes it so we can't or shouldn't really complain about any direction they choose to go cause its not like they did this shit on purpose. It's silly to get mad at them for any decision they made from the time Tom passed til today. It's fucking insane. Don't like the new tunes? Then don't listen. That's what I did and It's as easy as that. No need to be bitter or angry about anything. Fucking hell.
Architects still slap.
I say after Tom died architects became a new band. Holy Hell was the last album of Architects UK and the next two would be a different set of messages. Let’s be honest here
i love architects all the way from nightmares to classic symptoms. and i cant even think of saying something like this because of how much toms music means to me. saying things like this to the band is an insult to tom, these people who love LF//LS, AOGHAU only and cry abt the new music NEED to grow up.
I agree with Nick HOWEVER (coming from Nashville) I hate the trash ass Nashville tourist shirt with tassels 🤣 love me some architects. Mostly.. 🤷
Dude still paid for the show lmao
I can't stand their music now... But I also stopped seeing them live when they made the change. I was lucky enough to catch them twice before the change...
I couldn't imagine going to see Architects in 2017 trying to get crazy because they're not playing Hollow Crown material. Lol
Why would anybody go spend their money on a ticket for a show if they don't like the band or what has become of it? Get a life.
I hate Architects too. I’m just not a dick and wouldn’t waste my time and money to go watch them play.
From the thumbnail, I thought someone covered a metal song again. In this case toxicity. And did a terrible job.
Seriously!? Like seriously!? It's f*king Architects, maybe not the biggest musical act, maybe not the most influential metalcore band, but they're big and important to the scene. And even if weren't some musical act and anything else, have some sense, act humane
i remember when seans(jackcepticeye) dad died and there where so many comments saying horible shit about how he is in hell and diserve it and shit. just because hes a big youtuber doesnt mean he didnt love his dad. he took some time off youtube to greave.
Even if he didn't love his Dad it was still horrible from the side of those trolls who spam his comments to this day.
pretty sure all of that was bot accounts though, not actual people doing that
I don't like their newer music. That's no reason to be an asshole to them. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Easy
Not against you, but this makes me so angry that I need to stop at 2:40, and move back to work. Boi this guy is not a fan he's a lonley boy who don't know anything and just listen to the music. Yeah Music is a Window to a house but it doesn't mean that you allowed to look into the bedrooms you know
If you don’t like their new music don’t go to their concert and move on. They could have just stopped making music, like other bands who lost a brother.