Things Metalheads REALLY need to get over...

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    Things Metalheads REALLY need to get over... Nik gives his take on some of the items on Loudwire's list.
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  • @NikNocturnalTwitchClips
    @NikNocturnalTwitchClips  Рік тому +103

    *What are some other things you think metalheads need to get over? Comment below!*

    • @JmR201
      @JmR201 Рік тому +7

      Why did they go mainstream?

    • @AnungUnRama987
      @AnungUnRama987 Рік тому +4

      my gut tells me number 16 first suggestion is more geared towards old metal heads that cant get over there child hood bands not being popular anymore

    • @TYLERtheMAGGOT1
      @TYLERtheMAGGOT1 Рік тому +9

      When metal fans complain when a band doesn't tour in front of their house.

    • @sgefrascz8123
      @sgefrascz8123 Рік тому +8

      No Nik, way way way before the beef with corey I already had a problem with this weird dude. Since his message about Em's daughter, when he was mid 20ies and she a teen. He's such a weirdo and his music is not good enough to overshadow his sick character, so no muffingirlkid for me, never ever.
      Other things: being elitists of genres.

    • @ericdoan9949
      @ericdoan9949 Рік тому

      Can you do another cover song with the Ramos??

  • @calaverx11
    @calaverx11 Рік тому +517

    "Oh you like Metallica? Name three songs by them."
    "Unforgiven."

  • @jenniferlchainmailjen152
    @jenniferlchainmailjen152 Рік тому +1738

    I think MGK didn’t understand the culture when he came from the rap scene. In rap as far as I’m aware it’s a normal thing to manufacture “beef” with other artists as a form of self-promotion. This is less common in metal and especially frowned upon to do this with respected “elders” in the scene.

    • @2sthimo449
      @2sthimo449 Рік тому +240

      Yeah the Metalcore scene is very much everyone holding together, giving props to other artists and all that, while the rap scene is a lot about being cocky, attacking others and posturing as better than the rest.
      He went in with the attitude necessary as a rapper

    • @nickmahyr870
      @nickmahyr870 Рік тому +124

      Ronnie Radke is shaking in his boots somewhere 😅.

    • @FairyCRat
      @FairyCRat Рік тому +23

      @@nickmahyr870 Chris Fronzak lmao

    • @nimava2336
      @nimava2336 Рік тому +156

      Calling Corey Taylor an elder of the metal scene made me realize how old I got

    • @jenniferlchainmailjen152
      @jenniferlchainmailjen152 Рік тому +57

      @@nimava2336 yeah I was already in my 20s when Slipknot came out but I’m slowly coming to terms with being old enough to remember that stuff lol.

  • @lens_hunter
    @lens_hunter Рік тому +1284

    Almost this entire list can be boiled down to one thing. Stop making your taste in music your whole personality.

    • @phaaaze9984
      @phaaaze9984 Рік тому +91

      Seriously. I’ll give teenagers a pass since they’re still tryna figure things out but when it’s an adult it’s just weird as hell. Like no one else cares about your favorite bands dude. I know no one cares about mine

    • @lens_hunter
      @lens_hunter Рік тому +48

      @@phaaaze9984 what are your favorite bands?

    • @descenddarkness
      @descenddarkness Рік тому +42

      @@lens_hunter shhh he's trying to prove a point

    • @mrtaxi8590
      @mrtaxi8590 Рік тому +17

      Well I think if you’re a musician then its kind of understandable to make music most of if not your entire personality, but if not I agree with you

    • @sighkick9464
      @sighkick9464 Рік тому +7

      Yeah as a staring musician music is a big part of my life. Yes i do have other passions but i know more about music than i do about math lol

  • @TurboHotdog
    @TurboHotdog Рік тому +773

    The biggest enemy to the metal scene is the metal scene

    • @dragonballfanscantread2383
      @dragonballfanscantread2383 Рік тому +8

      No, it's hipsters and scene kids.

    • @leagueoflemons6844
      @leagueoflemons6844 Рік тому +40

      @@dragonballfanscantread2383 No it'd definitely the metal scene. Most metal fans are very close minded people that don't like when bands branch out and try to grow their name.

    • @dragonballfanscantread2383
      @dragonballfanscantread2383 Рік тому

      @@leagueoflemons6844
      lol no you tourist.

    • @leagueoflemons6844
      @leagueoflemons6844 Рік тому +8

      @@dragonballfanscantread2383 point proven

    • @dragonballfanscantread2383
      @dragonballfanscantread2383 Рік тому +6

      @@leagueoflemons6844
      You proved no point.
      Having standards doesn't mean close minded.
      It's when those standards dropped, is when the genre declined.

  • @pachellikerachelbutnot.2825
    @pachellikerachelbutnot.2825 Рік тому +292

    I think the list is missing when someone suddenly dislikes a band because they become “too mainstream”. 🙄🙄

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Рік тому +5

      That's why I never record my songs. 😅

    • @towel2043
      @towel2043 Рік тому +80

      Metalhead: metal is cool!
      Non metalhead: hey, this is cool!
      Metalhead: 😡

    • @funcrank8997
      @funcrank8997 Рік тому +7

      You know what, I kinda feel called out by this :D

    • @hensoakira
      @hensoakira Рік тому +9

      Metallica fans in 1991

    • @0326Vet
      @0326Vet Рік тому +9

      @@hensoakira difference between people hating a band for becoming popular naturally and people who hate a band completely softening their sound to become popular

  • @imperfect_cliche
    @imperfect_cliche Рік тому +73

    The only thing actually hate as a metalhead is when people think it's just yelling into a mic and don't realize the amount skill and practice it takes to even sound close to a lot of the metal vocalist. There's even a science to it. TheCharismaticVoice even made a video where they stuck a camera down Will Ramos's throat to see what his vocal cords did when he did his vocals. insane stuff.

  • @TheJokesterSCR
    @TheJokesterSCR Рік тому +371

    Man, for years I played live shows and went to shows with no ear protection. Practiced my drums with a PA system blasting. You know how you get a ringing in your ears after being exposed to loud noises for an extended time? That happened to me all of the time and by the next day, the ringing would be gone. Until it wasn't. I've had tinnitus for 7 years now. I will never know what it's like to hear silence again. There is always a hissing/ringing in my right ear. It took a long time to just adjust to it and learn to live with it. But it really sucks. People ABSOLUTELY need to protect their ears. Tinnitus is fucking obnoxious.

    • @MySkilletfan
      @MySkilletfan Рік тому +26

      Don't have the ringing, but I can tell my hearing has gone down hill. I'm not even 30 yet and looking my fiance in the face I have to ask her to repeat herself

    • @TheJokesterSCR
      @TheJokesterSCR Рік тому +15

      @@MySkilletfan Part of me wants to say that I'd rather have less hearing than the constant ringing, but when I think about it, they both seem terrible. Protect your hearing. It's not gonna get better with age, haha!

    • @zakk219
      @zakk219 Рік тому +8

      Yeah tinnitus fucking sucks. I got it from going metal/hardcore shows in small venues and standing at the front or next to speakers and stuff. Wish I had known about ear protection back then but I guess part of being young is making those kind of mistakes. Worth it for some of the memories I have.

    • @Rafterz
      @Rafterz Рік тому +11

      Tinnitus sucks, I need a background vid while sleeping to distract myself from the constant ringing in my ears. Protect your ears, guys!

    • @I_Will_Disappoint_You
      @I_Will_Disappoint_You Рік тому +6

      I was in my 40s by the time my foolish ass finally wised up and started wearing earplugs at concerts. I have documented hearing damage and can't afford to lose any more. They are made for concerts and I can still hear everything - just at a reasonable volume. Hearos is the name of the plugs. Everyone should pick up a set.

  • @Vanessa-ru8xw
    @Vanessa-ru8xw Рік тому +53

    7:10 i actually think its kinda nice when newer bands sound like older ones, because you can hear what bands has a huge impact on their music
    it’s basically fan fiction but metal

    • @andrewcordero1096
      @andrewcordero1096 Рік тому

      Yea but greta van fleet sounds like a shitty version of Led Zeppelin tho

    • @AcidWaves80
      @AcidWaves80 Рік тому +3

      same here especially when they give credit where credit is due. thats why i dont like or care for greta vanfleet cause they said that they dont sound like led zepplin nor have they given credit for LZ sound or music like what?! but yeah bringing back the older sounds is awesome in my book.

    • @viscountrainbows2857
      @viscountrainbows2857 10 місяців тому

      Metal is a slowly evolving structure that keeps going back and forth between what is acceptable. Like, Slaughter To Prevail reminds me so much of 2000s myspace deathcore, when that genre was pretty much dead in the 2010s. It's weird to have that come back like "Did I accidentally just put on All Shall Perish?"

  • @Wyocaster
    @Wyocaster Рік тому +174

    I think MGK's cover of Aerials is probably the biggest thing the metal scene has a problem with

    • @mrcrustnasty3574
      @mrcrustnasty3574 Рік тому +29

      that and him disrespecting Slipknot

    • @Darkdeadperson
      @Darkdeadperson Рік тому +1

      Indeed. My main issue with him is both his music is terrible, and he is a pompous ass

    • @joonasvuomajoki2636
      @joonasvuomajoki2636 Рік тому +8

      @@mrcrustnasty3574 it was Corey who dissed MGK. He started the whole shit talking. Corey is the biggest bully in metal scene right now and people need to realize that.

    • @UndyingHatred_
      @UndyingHatred_ Рік тому +26

      @@joonasvuomajoki2636 Corey wasn’t even the one who started it tho? you honestly need to go back and do your research first, before you attempt to talk shit lmao.

    • @joonasvuomajoki2636
      @joonasvuomajoki2636 Рік тому +8

      @@UndyingHatred_ yeah he was. MGK talked some shit about rockstars not looking like rockstars with their comfortable shoes without targeting anyone in particular. To which Corey responded with a condescending gatekeeping remark about people coming to the genre after "failing" in some other genre. So yeah it was Corey who stratred to talk shit about Colson.

  • @methal0-111
    @methal0-111 Рік тому +126

    You forgot that MGK also did the Aerials thing

    • @Eluarelon
      @Eluarelon Рік тому +1

      well, thanks to have reminded us of that abomination of a song cover.

    • @d3athperception828
      @d3athperception828 Рік тому +2

      That was abysmal.

  • @EE-iv5ej
    @EE-iv5ej Рік тому +4

    "Bet you can't even name 3 songs!"
    Me: listens to some bands that don't even name their songs

  • @baorozzo
    @baorozzo Рік тому +54

    They should have also “please stop asking bands to come to brazil!”

  • @PoppyIsMyMetalQueen
    @PoppyIsMyMetalQueen Рік тому +17

    I don't understand people's beef with Poppy. Even if she isn't "real metal", she's still a great transition artist for people who want to get into metal. I know that's what happened with me. And she's still one of my favorite artists to this day.

    • @sophi3881
      @sophi3881 Рік тому +1

      yessss

    • @pjket4229
      @pjket4229 10 місяців тому

      your username is just as cringe as this take

  • @nickolasschweitzer7202
    @nickolasschweitzer7202 Рік тому +26

    i am so happy that bands aren’t as big. less stadium tours, more small venues, cheaper tickets, more shows.

    • @molekyyli
      @molekyyli Рік тому

      I appreciate it too. I just saw a photo from some huge stadium gig and you couldn't even see the performer from that seat. I would feel like I wasted money.

  • @Taylor1err
    @Taylor1err Рік тому +59

    my boy Nik going for those 5th octave high notes when he's trying to comprehend humanity 🤌😂

  • @VANTAND
    @VANTAND Рік тому +24

    Loudwire: Get over "Bet you can't name three songs!"
    Also Loudwire: "COMPILATION OF POSERS GETTING EXPOSED"

  • @Sergio-nb4hj
    @Sergio-nb4hj Рік тому +73

    2:26 YES, it feels like literally no one else acknowledges this. His constant beefing right after that album came out was the real catalyst for people (including myself) changing their minds.
    MGK needs to learn that rock fans nowadays usually don't value the same kind of personalities that rap fans do. A bit of humbleness would've gotten him far

    • @DaygoKid94
      @DaygoKid94 Рік тому +9

      People in rap don't like random beefs either. Like yes if there is a real reason go for it but just out of nowhere beef for attention is lame. That is why shady bullied him out of rap.

    • @tvbnine793
      @tvbnine793 Рік тому +2

      I believe in separating the art from the artist. I still love MGK's I think I'm OKAY and album Tickets to my Downfall, as a matter of fact, forget me too with Halsey was my most played song on Spotify in 2021. He's put out a lot of bangers within the past 3 years, but as a person, holy crap he needs to swallow his ego and stop picking fights he can't win.

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj Рік тому +1

      @@DaygoKid94 oh yeah I know, it's just beefs in general are something a lot of rap fans get invested in and that just doesn't tend to be the case in much of the rock/metal world

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj Рік тому +6

      @@tvbnine793 Same. I don't consider myself a fan of artists who I think are bad people (and I never financially support them), but I do let myself enjoy their music. Some genres you literally can't get into unless you are capable of doing that, like black metal or martial industrial

  • @ThePackageLives
    @ThePackageLives Рік тому +31

    I saw Motorhead as my first concert ever. Was deaf for 3 days afterwards. Thought it was because of "virgin ears" and saw them again many year later. Nope, not virgin ears, they cranked the volume beyond the limit. Man it's just a wall of sound (a giant HISSSSSS) if you don't have hearing protection in. I always wear hearing protection going to shows now, but it's kind of sad how I lost some of my hearing because of them (have done hearing tests through work).

  • @ianmcpeck424
    @ianmcpeck424 Рік тому +96

    6:48 Love that Rivers of Nihil made fun of this in a way on their new album. The fans chanting "One more song!" and them yelling stop to the crowd.

    • @summeronio9751
      @summeronio9751 Рік тому +5

      Did that a couple days ago when they opened for The Contortionist...
      They were having none of it lol

    • @calebbean1384
      @calebbean1384 Рік тому

      Making fun of the people who pay for your lifestyle is awesome

  • @PhantomLantern2814
    @PhantomLantern2814 Рік тому +24

    Jonathan Young made a good point when he was criticizing the metal community for being too afraid of being called gay to try anything new. Guy made a laser pirate power metal album entirely with synthesizers and it kicked ass.

    • @calebbean1384
      @calebbean1384 Рік тому

      Cynic and Death both had half of the members be gay at one point. In the early 90s. Not really new lol

  • @sillysiji5257
    @sillysiji5257 Рік тому +35

    Was shocked that Poppy was even shown. She's actually pretty cool. Weird person but cool music.

    • @GnawedPupils
      @GnawedPupils Рік тому +9

      This. I love Poppy so much. Her I Disagree album was dope.

    • @sillysiji5257
      @sillysiji5257 Рік тому +4

      @@GnawedPupils yeah I disagree is what showed her to me. That album is kinda like a satire of bubblegum pop.

    • @bg22757
      @bg22757 Рік тому +3

      @@sillysiji5257 the amount of stupidity one encounters on social media can make it hard to resist complaining

  • @scotter23
    @scotter23 Рік тому +160

    MGK Admitted on his Hulu documentary that he was wrong for saying some things and he should’ve just let it go and that he learned from it. If we aren’t going to allow people to own up to their mistakes that I’m not really sure what we’re all doing here

    • @theirishpotato6588
      @theirishpotato6588 Рік тому

      Yur

    • @ideitbawxproductions1880
      @ideitbawxproductions1880 Рік тому +39

      I wonder if he owned up to his comments about chasing underage girls...

    • @mg682
      @mg682 Рік тому +4

      there's no such thing as forgiveness in this world since we can't forgive ourselves. once u do something, that is it and ur branded. we also don't know how to communicate anymore.

    •  Рік тому +2

      @@ideitbawxproductions1880 Explain?

    • @kingmidas1310
      @kingmidas1310 Рік тому +12

      @ mgk made a tweet a while back (probably deleted now) about 13 / 14 / 15 year old girls when he was 19 saying they “shouldn’t be allowed to be so hot” because it “makes him feel like a creep” as well as a comment that he made about a celebrity (don’t remember who) on live tv calling her hot and then saying that if he got the chance he wouldn’t even wait until she was 18

  • @LFiles48
    @LFiles48 Рік тому +12

    About earplugs, I agree, but I think at some point, we need to have a conversation about the loudness in concerts. If everyone has to wear earplugs, what's the point of setting everything as loud as it is?

    • @JoeMama-ul5lq
      @JoeMama-ul5lq Рік тому +9

      I absolutely agree. I love loud music, but I will never understand the reason for playing music so loud that you can barely distinguish any tones. Most metal concerts would go just as hard at half the volume.

  • @LiliGrosserova
    @LiliGrosserova Рік тому +129

    Metal is probably one of the most gate-kept music genre ever.

    • @JAF2991
      @JAF2991 Рік тому +31

      Yep and much too elitists as well, metalheads take metal too seriously lol

    • @HorseloverFat1984
      @HorseloverFat1984 Рік тому +10

      *THE most gate-kept music genre ever by a huge margin.

    • @Bossfightmedia
      @Bossfightmedia Рік тому +13

      That only holds true because EDM Peeps are way too busy figuring Out how they are super Special with their own little Genre they created among the 160 Other documented Genres.
      As a huge edm and Dubstep Fan, I Had These discussions about people going all *bUt ItS TrOPicAl NeUrO FunK* on you because you Missgenred their Favorite Song.
      Its almost more obnoxious tbh. The sheer need to Out yourself as a nerd about theory is very strong in some people.

    • @MXGIRL87
      @MXGIRL87 Рік тому +1

      I think that’s part of the reason it doesn’t have many fans

    • @ganondorf66
      @ganondorf66 Рік тому +1

      Good.

  • @BigSleep3750
    @BigSleep3750 Рік тому +68

    The “when bands change their sound” portion must have been written by Corey Taylor himself

    • @madskrillz2
      @madskrillz2 Рік тому +11

      Lol absolutely. I gotta say though, that new album is hard to listen to for me. Just sounds so generic and "Stone Sourish" to me. I was a big fan of their last two albums, but that new album is my least favorite since AHIG. After hearing what Jim Root said about it being rushed and the writing process, it makes a lot of sense.

    • @BigSleep3750
      @BigSleep3750 Рік тому +3

      @@madskrillz2 I just find it ironic that the album is called “the end, so far” when In actuality it’s probably just the end
      Gottem

    • @kizuato2073
      @kizuato2073 Рік тому

      @@madskrillz2 honestly think it sounds like absolute shit idk how they let it go out like that

    • @madskrillz2
      @madskrillz2 Рік тому +9

      @@kizuato2073 I think maybe they were just so ready to be done with that label, they just said "fuck it, release it" lol. Hopefully they release some quality stuff without a label pulling strings now.

  • @Anonymous_Eyeballs
    @Anonymous_Eyeballs Рік тому +13

    I've literally never heard anyone complain when a band DOESN'T change their sound to be fair

  • @drc9374
    @drc9374 Рік тому +60

    In this day and age, People LOVE to bitch and complain about something.

    • @ianmcpeck424
      @ianmcpeck424 Рік тому +5

      Always have. People just have a better way to complain. Social media

    • @calebbean1384
      @calebbean1384 Рік тому

      Including you right here genius

  • @baileydwyer453
    @baileydwyer453 Рік тому +44

    The thing with the "name 3 songs" is that if you like one song from a band, then you can't necessarily say you are a fan of the band
    You can say you're a can of the song
    But that shouldn't stop you from representing the band

    • @SLYKM
      @SLYKM Рік тому +8

      I think a better " test" would be "what's your favorite song," and if they pick a song that wasn't released as a single, then they prolly listen to full albums. Like someone can say they like Metallica, master of puppets, nothing else matters and One. Doesn't exactly sound like I listen to the album(s) those come from even tho I can name those songs.
      Of course, I think if someone spent money for merch then that is fine no matter how many songs they listened to or if they listened to everything and a single is still their favorite.
      Just think the three songs was always so silly, that's my point lol.

    • @emdove
      @emdove Рік тому +12

      I’ve been listening to some bands for nearly a decade, but if somebody came up to me and asked for three song titles, I’d panic and draw a blank. Imposter Syndrom.

    • @Jim87_36
      @Jim87_36 Рік тому +3

      I'm more of a believer of "if i don't like more than three songs on an album, i don't like it..." same goes for calling myself a fan of a band. I gotta like the majority of their albums rather than one or two

  • @tameplatinum1556
    @tameplatinum1556 Рік тому +10

    I wore earplugs to see meshuggah last weekend and I’m glad because I already have bad hearing from doing drumming for 4 years without ear protection. I have some tinnitus but it would get much worse if I was going ham to a jet engine version of rational gaze. I want to hear good, and idc who says I’m not cool for wearing them.

  • @ernestoflores1057
    @ernestoflores1057 Рік тому +13

    Real metalheads dont gossip or dont spend time bickering.
    Were loyal to our music 100%.

  • @mrtaxi8590
    @mrtaxi8590 Рік тому +20

    Can’t everyone just respect that everyone has different music tastes and hang out with people that have the same tastes as them if it bothers them that much? It’s not that hard

  • @thewhiterabbit8581
    @thewhiterabbit8581 Рік тому +63

    as a deathcore enjoyer, sometimes i listen to new bring me the horizon, sometimes I enjoy it, and sometimes I don't, but that's okay too.

    • @robertsimon841
      @robertsimon841 Рік тому +6

      I agree like they’re both good just depends on what your in the mood for

    • @zackphy
      @zackphy Рік тому +1

      My brother in law had an extra ticket to their concert in Nashville last month(same week as Knotfest Roadshow which was an amazing show) and asked me to go. I hadn't heard anything really from them since Pray for Plagues/Chelsea Smile, Count You're Blessings/Suicide Seasons so that's what I was expecting as I really enjoyed those albums but had'nt kept up with them. Boy was I ever wrong. He deliberately didn't tell me just how far removed and poppy they sound now cause he knew I wouldn't have went lol. As soon as they started playing I'm like wtf is this shit dude, are you sure this is the same band, this the stuff my wife listens to and come to find out she does like them currently. I've never seen such a dramatic transformation in style within the same "genre". I waited the entire thing hoping they'd play at least ONE song I knew from their old stuff to no avail. Needless to say I couldn't stand it lol but good on them for changing so dramatically and finding success cause the place was PACKED. I did see plenty of Count Your Blessings and Suicide Seasons shirts despite them not having anything from that era at the merch table. I wish they would play at least one song from the era at shows though cause it is their history and what made them famous originally and I'm sure plenty of their fans would appreciate it.

    • @thewhiterabbit8581
      @thewhiterabbit8581 Рік тому

      @@zackphy they do have some great metal albums after the Deathcore era, before they went to pop,
      I highly recommend "there is a hell".

  • @sharonunfiltered
    @sharonunfiltered Рік тому +30

    I'm not a Metalhead, I love anything and everything, but love watching you and Tank's channels to have fun and learn. Keep being you 🔥

  • @DannyShreve
    @DannyShreve Рік тому +8

    The band shirt thing is seeing someone wearing it and you try to have a conversation with them, it gets awkward , worse if you introduce them to a song or two and they shit talk it. It feels like they are shitting on your taste.

  • @misterfuzzyflippers
    @misterfuzzyflippers Рік тому +17

    I 100% agree on the "bands that sound like other bands" point. I love GVF exactly because they sound like Zeppelin.

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 Рік тому

      That's why most people love Greta van fleet

    • @hensoakira
      @hensoakira Рік тому +3

      Yea and even if people gon say "they are just the copy of the band" they are still giving a nice hommage to their inspirations and thats a really nice thing to see !

  • @Pepper_Jvck
    @Pepper_Jvck Рік тому +12

    "Thinking you only need sick riffs to write a good song"
    Polyphia: /:

  • @smokeyjo7420
    @smokeyjo7420 Рік тому +13

    I think all of us wish our favorite bands stuck with the style that made them. Bands far too often evolve into something we wish they didn't. But when they do and it's wildly uber amazing, it feels so damn good.
    Meshuggah is my number 1 and every album hits like a 60 ton machine. And i get fangirl about every release

  • @Aknight292
    @Aknight292 Рік тому +10

    About the changing music part. It's about balance. Don't keep the exact same sound, but when you do change it up don't stray so far that you sound like a completely different band. Evolving is good, turning into a completely different band all of a sudden? Bad.

  • @czdot
    @czdot Рік тому +2

    The earplug gripe... I feel like I'm the only idiot who wears them at a concert. I went to a Devin Townsend show in Prague. The sound in the pit was so loud and sharp I saw a bunch of people cupping their ears. I handed out 5 pears of foam earplugs to whoever asked for them.

    • @molekyyli
      @molekyyli Рік тому

      You're not an idiot, you're smart.

    • @czdot
      @czdot Рік тому

      @@molekyyli Thank you for your kind words, sir. :-D

  • @iletthedevilin828
    @iletthedevilin828 Рік тому +20

    I’ve seen people complain about both bands changing their sound and keeping it the same. Before Ire a lot of parkway drives fanbase complained they didn’t change their sound, then as we know today a lot of those same people complain they changed their sound. Same thing happened with the amity affliction before misery came out. People complained when they didn’t change up their sound but again a lot of those same people complained when they caved in. Basically if you’re in a band there’s no winning

    • @jameshampton4772
      @jameshampton4772 Рік тому +7

      Perfect example of you're just never going to make everyone happy and there's nothing really you can do about it except just hope for the best.

    • @iletthedevilin828
      @iletthedevilin828 Рік тому +1

      @@jameshampton4772 exactly

    • @elenuvien
      @elenuvien Рік тому +2

      it's because bands are allowed to change their sound but ONLY in ways that a particular fan likes, if they want to do their own thing and have fun in "unacceptable" ways, they'll get dragged

    • @jameshampton4772
      @jameshampton4772 Рік тому

      @@elenuvien Yeah and that's also the thing, A band can't simply just ask one fan what do they want to hear because then the other 100 if not thousands of other fans are gonna ask the same thing and we'll let's be real bands aren't Santa Clause so they can't make it happen.

    • @JBzucc
      @JBzucc Рік тому

      Never had an issue with parkway before IRE but Amity I was already over the sound they started to overdo in Chasing Ghosts, like my least favourite song on Youngbloods is literally Youngbloods and they started to implement that sound more and more each album, so if anything they had a pretty natural progression, just a really bad one in my opinion

  • @johanericsson7309
    @johanericsson7309 Рік тому +41

    I'll never complain abt a band not sounding the same on every record. August Burns Red get this criticism a lot, but usually from ppl who never liked them in the first place, from my experience. If anything, most fans I've talked to are thrilled that they're not taking the PWD/Architects route and instead staying true to their original sound.

    • @TimberWulfIsHere
      @TimberWulfIsHere Рік тому +1

      Eh, I've tried to vibe with em but the issue with ABR is that they usually don't do vibes/melodies in their songs. Which makes it spoken word more than metal.

    • @joefawley9264
      @joefawley9264 Рік тому +2

      August burns red is top tier :)

    • @SimonAudiosuite
      @SimonAudiosuite Рік тому

      @@TimberWulfIsHere There's a few songs with strong melodies, bones for example

    • @imoffendedthatyouareoffended
      @imoffendedthatyouareoffended Рік тому +1

      Back in like 2012 I saw ABR live and they sounded identical to the records they released.

    • @nathanielcava4128
      @nathanielcava4128 Рік тому

      @@NicoDoesLP I mean it’s a solid album dude. Fault line is a banger

  • @hiphxwk1974
    @hiphxwk1974 Рік тому +9

    Im gonna be waiting for that new TERMINA track "I asphyxiated my bowels"

  • @carmenhuyser808
    @carmenhuyser808 Рік тому +1

    "Asphyxiated my bowels" is a song I'd listen to lmao 😂😂

  • @simonchi5372
    @simonchi5372 Рік тому +3

    This is why i always memorize atleast 3 songs from bands i like so i can pass the test.

  • @Eiyaa90
    @Eiyaa90 Рік тому +3

    about the one more song one.. total agree. EXCEPT when the venue has a strict curfew... when i saw Bullet For My Valentine several years ago at the Roseland Theater in Portland Oregon, they had started the intro to Tears Dont Fall part 2 and the house lights came on cause venue curfew .. so its disappointing when they dont get to do so

  • @Just-Michael
    @Just-Michael Рік тому +10

    The thing about bands changing their sound is that their new sound is usually way worse than their original sound. It's usually more dumbed down and commercial and or just plain bad. I can't think of a band off the top of my head that stayed consistently good despite changing their overall vibe, but I'm a bit picky so this may not apply to the general public.

  • @TheGrim714
    @TheGrim714 Рік тому

    "Pho-mom-en-nom" 😂
    Much love brother, thanks for being both an inspiration and entertainment 🤘

  • @haleydoe644
    @haleydoe644 Рік тому +7

    MGK made Tommy Lee endearing.
    Being a metal head means I get to go to shows for 10-20 dollars. Perks.
    Also, my son played me a song from Pantera the other day, and I knew it was the first track from Cowboys from Hell. Still can't remember the name haha.
    Chanting one more song is typically to allow the headlining band a breather for the closer. Lorna Shore just did that recently. My son was lucky enough to get a set-list.
    Editing more: DO NOT see Angelmaker without ear plugs.

  • @ServanT-of-Truth
    @ServanT-of-Truth Рік тому +44

    Nick, you are a awesome guitarist! i wish you would play more!

    • @NikNocturnalTwitchClips
      @NikNocturnalTwitchClips  Рік тому +28

      There's plenty of music projects in the works - just cause you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening. ;)
      'Phrost

    • @MetalZoned
      @MetalZoned Рік тому +2

      @@NikNocturnalTwitchClips nice

    • @ALL_that_ENDS
      @ALL_that_ENDS Рік тому +3

      @@NikNocturnalTwitchClips Huh no, nik Nocturnal, that's how metal heads work, we absolutely NEED TO SEE it or it doesn't happen, pffft.. Duh

  • @Werewolf914
    @Werewolf914 Рік тому +6

    I like Poppy and if Baby Metal is acknowledged as Metal then I say Poppy can too.
    I also like when bands change their sound to a certain extent like that's why Ice Nine Kills, Avenged Sevenfold, and Linkin Park are tied as my number one band you never know what you're in for with new albums because they change it up but also keep their defining features.
    Also as someone who grew up on Classic Metal and Rock I do find Riffs and guitar solos very important for me to love a song but I also think lyrics might be the think I value most.

  • @paulmurphy3876
    @paulmurphy3876 Рік тому +11

    I've only just got over my fear of new stuff from 10 years ago, I'm old and cant keep up! 😂 In 20 years time I'll be going mad for the stuff being released now, I'll love it.

  • @ThePackageLives
    @ThePackageLives Рік тому +4

    I've been to shows where they didn't have an encore, they did however mention during the last songs "this is the 2nd last song, no encore", then....this is the last song...and they lived true to it. It worked out okay that way.

  • @Jayjaytube518
    @Jayjaytube518 Рік тому +7

    I see so much heat and misplaced angst aimed at Lorna Shore for releasing the "same song over and over" and I never agreed with that sentiment. It's their style and they remain true to it.

  • @TYLERtheMAGGOT1
    @TYLERtheMAGGOT1 Рік тому +102

    I have to disagree with the MGK take on this video. Nobody in the metal scene loved MGK. He was loved by his regular fans for his hop hop stuff. My personal dislike as well as others actually started when he attacked Eminem on a song and I'm sure other metalheads would agree with me as well. Then he got even more hated when he made the switch over to the rock scene and taking shots at other artists. Not saying you're wrong but from my perspective, he was never loved by the metal scene
    Edit: Forgot to mention he made immature and weird comments about Eminems daughter on Twitter. That's another reason why fans including metalheads don't like him.

    • @Feverm00n
      @Feverm00n Рік тому +32

      He’s made …unsettling… comments about underage girls a few times.

    • @TYLERtheMAGGOT1
      @TYLERtheMAGGOT1 Рік тому +3

      @@Feverm00n exactly

    • @stygio.medusa
      @stygio.medusa Рік тому +12

      was looking for this comment and wasn't disappointed. he's an insufferable person in general who thrives off attention, negative or not. i just don't listen to his music because giving him attention is exactly what he wants.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Рік тому +5

      @@Feverm00n He's a groomer, but the people who throw that word around aren't looking for people like him.

    • @jelcoleys8087
      @jelcoleys8087 Рік тому +1

      @@stygio.medusa You could have just described Corey with that comment

  • @selectivevisions
    @selectivevisions Рік тому +1

    thrice changed their sound a bunch through out the years and i whole heartedly appreciate every itteration horizons is such a sick album man

  • @viCKYviXXen420
    @viCKYviXXen420 Рік тому +1

    You're not a metal proclaimed poser you're fucking amazing and I love you keep it up!

  • @thecommenternobodycaresabout

    Thanks for the video. Very entertaining. Cheers.

  • @randyhiggins5612
    @randyhiggins5612 Рік тому

    Bro the upward inflections in you voice kills me 😂
    Love it

  • @nicolasnadeau6673
    @nicolasnadeau6673 Рік тому +7

    I love your take on this. Just enjoy good shit

  • @pandulce4447
    @pandulce4447 Рік тому +1

    I love the sarcastic chaotic nature it's like a guy standing on mountain ranting on his hate for humanity

  • @harleythesalami6956
    @harleythesalami6956 Рік тому +14

    I think the name 3 songs thing does ring true a little. It's like, you're a metalhead, you see a person in the street wearing a shirt of that band you love, you;re stoked, you want to chat with them. Then they know nothing about them.
    I think it's like sports fans seeing someone wearing a jersey of thier team, you talk to them, and they say, oh I don't watch sports.

  • @thealphatheomega2348
    @thealphatheomega2348 Рік тому +27

    The MGK hate train got old really fast. Also I remember in 2019, where I went to see MIW. Didn't bring any ear plugs and was sitting very close to the stage but not close to the pit and it sounded like a machine gun going off in my ears. It was fun as hell but holy shit! 😬 my ears wouldn't stop ringing for a few days and I had to wear ear muffs. Always bring ear plugs, trust me it ain't worth it. 👍

    • @bg22757
      @bg22757 Рік тому +1

      For sure man, happened to me at a slash gig. Don't even like Slash and they were ringing for a week. If you keep doing it, there will come a point where your ears never stop ringing.

    • @eulyxia5505
      @eulyxia5505 Рік тому +1

      Oh man, I was at Rammstein in September on their stadium tour and was close to the stage and my ears were ringing for two solid days after. Was worth it to me, was also my first ever concert !

    • @bg22757
      @bg22757 Рік тому +1

      @@eulyxia5505 I would recommend you protect them in future lol the damage is permanent. Sounds like you had a blast though

  • @jackjones701
    @jackjones701 Рік тому +4

    I remember people were super mad when Metallica cut their hair

  • @ThoughtPolice1984
    @ThoughtPolice1984 Рік тому +2

    Some people don't need ear protection. I remember being able to touch the speakers at a Slayer/Hatebreed concert 20 years ago and always have exceptional hearing test at work.
    TV ruined my eyes though lol

  • @ScPolaroids
    @ScPolaroids Рік тому +1

    Some bands have a very distinct sound which people love. You can have variety in the songs but they'll still have their sound. S great example of that is Bury Tomorrow. Their new stuff is different but still feels the same.

  • @danzillion6037
    @danzillion6037 Рік тому +4

    nik should make "i asphyxiated my bowels" his next niknxk song
    rawrrawrrawr i asphyxiated my bowels
    rawrrawrrawr choking on shiiiiiit
    rawrrawrawr need disposable towels
    rawrrawrrawr cleaning up my shiiiiit

  • @Blaze1990sp
    @Blaze1990sp Рік тому +3

    "One more song " is never going anywhere I JUST SAW SHADOW OF INTENT IN CHICAGO AND WE DID THE EXACT THING AND THEY PLAYED MALEDICTION My neck was swore for a week lmao

  • @flippingbirds1293
    @flippingbirds1293 Рік тому

    8:46 Clawfinger! You need three good riffs and a catchy hook line "I love rock n roll"
    It's easy to remember so we sing it all the time.. :)

  • @cynicallemonade1792
    @cynicallemonade1792 Рік тому +1

    I like that one poppy song where she sings "don't go outside." I relate to it somehow.

  • @Sinfullybliss97
    @Sinfullybliss97 Рік тому +9

    Look at GHOST!!!! they legit sound like a shit ton of old school vibes but they are still like badass af

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 Рік тому

      Ghost sounds like an AI Generated metal band but the sad part is they aren't AI

    • @Cannibalize946
      @Cannibalize946 Рік тому +2

      Scooby doo rock

    • @eunicee999
      @eunicee999 Рік тому +2

      Blue Oyster Cult lol that’s what I think anyway

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 Рік тому +1

      @@eunicee999 don't insult the cult like that 😭 the cult are actually pioneers of rock

    • @Sinfullybliss97
      @Sinfullybliss97 Рік тому

      @@jeanpitre5789 um Tobias actully says they took riffs from them and inspiration in a interview

  • @ServanT-of-Truth
    @ServanT-of-Truth Рік тому

    your content is great, none the less!

  • @ThiccSeagull
    @ThiccSeagull Рік тому

    6:54
    When I saw Tremonti live this year, as they were approaching the end of their set, Mark said “We don’t do encores, theres no point” and I love that, because he’s right.
    I hope other bands start to see that, but at the end of the day it’s probably up to them, and if they want to do it. Then do it.

  • @floydfletcher7174
    @floydfletcher7174 Рік тому +2

    I listen to alot of albums all the way through (it's kind of a litmus test for whether I would consider myself properly a fan or whether I only 'kind of/sort of' like a band). So, if an album has no filler, I never need to skip. If it doesn't have one absolute banger that stands out against all the other tracks I never have a reason to check the song titles... I can name most albums by a lot of bands.... I'd probably struggle with song titles though...

  • @kylebrewington4386
    @kylebrewington4386 Рік тому

    I was just caught off guard by the poutine ad lmao

  • @vcorkleth
    @vcorkleth Рік тому +2

    Yeah, I broke down and bought ear plugs after a Fit for an Autopsy show where it took a full day for the tinnitus to go away.

    • @thehonesthiker
      @thehonesthiker Рік тому +2

      Funny enough, same band did it to me. Sick show though.

  • @xspartan346x
    @xspartan346x Рік тому +3

    "metalheads" need to gatekeep harder, actually.

  • @jo-fhreycorpuz
    @jo-fhreycorpuz Рік тому

    The "IN FLAMES" effect yeaahhhh

  • @austinfowler2707
    @austinfowler2707 Рік тому

    I had recently watched a couple of videos trying to understand my tastes in music better.
    This was a mistake.
    While I enjoy metal, trying to attach myself to a particular subgenre is basically impossible.
    I'd be like taking a gradient of Red and Green and saying "Find me where Red doesn't have any green in it" and then having everyone come to a consensus. Better yet, a crimson and Red gradient.
    Ultimately, I ended up with this: 1)is it theatrical? 2) can I apply it to a movie scene? Fight scene? Emotion? If it's a yes to any of these 2, I'll probably enjoy it.
    It's probably why I really like video game metal music like Doom and Metal Hellsinger. Just ticks all those boxes.

  • @jeremyogarey1911
    @jeremyogarey1911 Рік тому +6

    the 3 songs thing is also a bit dumb seeing as most people use streaming services now and don't even look at the titles. but would recognize it if the songs played

  • @TRIPPgothic
    @TRIPPgothic Рік тому

    one of the times I saw dope live Edsel literally came out n said, 'yeah we can do the encore thing where we walk off stage y'all chant for us to come back n we waste your time. or we can just play one or two more songs in the time frame'. n I respect that

  • @karlsilverone
    @karlsilverone Рік тому +1

    Are the pinch harmionics in your vocal delivery when you get excited intentional?

  • @pottertheavenger1363
    @pottertheavenger1363 Рік тому +2

    I think one is 'not everyone will be into death or black'
    I think some metalheads look down on more palatable genres like gothic or symphonic because they more popular.

  • @MoreLikeDanny
    @MoreLikeDanny Рік тому +2

    I literally only listen to Welcome Home by Koheed for the opening rift then turn it off so I’d say rifts can definitely make a song

  • @haydenarlington8256
    @haydenarlington8256 Рік тому +11

    The only thing that seriously annoys me about MGK(other than the Corey Taylor beef) is that he has his own little exhibit in the “Right Here, Right Now” section of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame museum(I went there about a month ago and saw it myself). It just gets under my skin that he has gotten more attention from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame than other artists that have been making music since before he was born. Idk though, it just slightly annoys me. But I ain’t out here complaining constantly about him like these purists are.

  • @ravenpiece
    @ravenpiece Рік тому

    Dude you are so naturally funny, I hope you're doing stand up comedy of some form.

    • @NikNocturnalTwitchClips
      @NikNocturnalTwitchClips  Рік тому

      I mean he does a Twitch stream Tuesday to Saturday from 5pm to 7:30pm eastern time, does that count?
      'Phrost

    • @ravenpiece
      @ravenpiece Рік тому

      @@NikNocturnalTwitchClips he would absolutely kill at a comedy club. Especially with the silly voices hahah

  • @R3AL-AIM
    @R3AL-AIM Рік тому +4

    Greta is a local band and I personally think they are great and refreshing.

  • @BB-BA55akaMR-BLEGH
    @BB-BA55akaMR-BLEGH Рік тому +7

    8:14 - 8:40 Absolutely true. I hadn't listened to Dance Gavin Dance for even a full year before their bassist died of a drug overdose, and then Tilian was metooed. This is just one example of the many good bands that do stupid shit and cut a good thing short and ruin it for fans with their behavior.

  • @ShayNightshade
    @ShayNightshade Рік тому

    'What's the point" is what I ask myself every morning when I have to get up.

  • @CLaw-tb5gg
    @CLaw-tb5gg Рік тому

    The "thinking sick riffs make a whole song" thing.. oy. Nik, have you never heard riff salad?

  • @lvciferkaminski
    @lvciferkaminski Рік тому +1

    On the UA-cam bullcrap you mentioned yesterday in stream: Don't beep the swearing, cut the audio. Ad analytics puts you into "kinda not ad friendly" category.

  • @InkAndPoet
    @InkAndPoet Рік тому

    I really like Nik's nuanced approach to MGK.
    Also, in terms of bands not changing their sound, I think bands in certain genres can get away with it. Barely anyone complains about Rise Against, Breaking Benjamin, or August Burns Red not changing because those genres they're a part of (Melodic Hardcore, Alt Metal, and Metalcore) allow different bands to do the genre their way. Meanwhile, if a band that is part of pop punk (like a band called State Champs), for example, were to stick with the same formula, some people would likely get sick of it pretty quick.

  • @SuperHamrick94
    @SuperHamrick94 Рік тому

    7:02 OKAY, not metal, but this happened to me this year! I was filming Country Concert in Fort Loramie, Ohio in July, and Morgan Wallen was headlining the final night. Drunk people threw stuff at him, he was mad about something else, and during his set skipped a song, then left and didn't come back on for this 3 SONG ENCORE. I was so confused, and it gave me a bad first impression of his live shows and his character.

  • @LionTheMisfit
    @LionTheMisfit Рік тому +2

    No one hates Metal fans more than Metal Fans

  • @MagnusOpus03
    @MagnusOpus03 Рік тому +5

    Did nick plug his mic into a pitch pedal or something? He be speking normally then all of a sudden its like his voice goes up two octaves

  • @Zundfolge
    @Zundfolge Рік тому +1

    I'm in my 50s, I never wore ear plugs at shows when I was young. I am now constantly followed by a swarm of Cicadas everywhere I go. Don't be dumb, wear your ear pro.

  • @MetalMan1245
    @MetalMan1245 Рік тому

    That last comment really got me.

  • @michaeltriola3978
    @michaeltriola3978 28 днів тому

    Riffs are most important IMO. With the exception of certain extreme vocals, the riff is what makes a song memorable. Sabbath, Rush, etc were so good partly because their riffs were sticky.

  • @Charon793
    @Charon793 Рік тому

    I know most of the members of The Halo Effect are from In Flames but The Halo Effect sounds more like Dark Tranquility than In Flames.

  • @traviscue2099
    @traviscue2099 10 місяців тому

    Funny thinking back now about Larrs and how he tried stopping online audio file transfering.. But looking back, that whole ordeal created the copyright we have today and made big enough a noise to form the online trading of music we see now. His originaly concern was 100% fair for all artists, even including the big names.. artists don't really make good money via album sales and getting less hurt so many smaller artists.