ETERNALS FAMILY TREE: Eros Thanos Celestials FULL ANCESTRY! | Explained
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Marvel's Eternals post-credit scene reveals Eros aka Starfox, brother of Thanos, and an Eternal of Titan. So how exactly does Eros connect to the broader ancestry of the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Why can the Eternals on Titan seem to reproduce, but not the Earth Eternals like Sersi, Ikaris, Thena, and the rest? Which Celestial created Thanos and Eros on Titan, and what was their mission? In this episode of EXPLAINED, Erik Voss breaks down the complete Marvel family tree to explain the family connection between Eros and the rest of the MCU.
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I love how complex the MCU is getting. As a non comic book reader I am excited to be introduced into the ever expanding universe. I like being genuinely “in the dark” when some things happen
this movie was ass
Comic explained is a great UA-cam channel if you want to get into marvel comics!
Same here
Cant wait to see Star lord and Star fox comparing mix tapes and having a dance off to Watermelon sugar Rush!
@@Shaboomquisa True
0:22 HAHAHAH “One, a smoldering cut of beef arousing parts of us we didn’t know existed. And the other one Harry Styles”
Still astonished that Harry Styles is really in the MCU now , it’s such a really weird and insane casting choice and even Chloé Zhao said about this recently , but hey it is what it is
Not really . Eros in the comics has sex with alot of women , charming & many people likes him . Is that not harry styles whole career ?? Lol I think most people (men) insecurities are showing because they judging somebody base off knowing the females they want they can't have because they want harry. There's nothing else nobody can judge harry off of other then that reason .
I honestly think that he was a good pick for the character.
@@juliusSooLA L
@@Nemisis007 great choice, but I’ll do you one better. Glenn Howerton, specifically his character, Dennis, from It’s Always Sunny. Dennis is 1000% the narcissistic sex pest that comics Eros is.
They chose him cuz he’s very “progressive” and trends like every other week
“Stop hitting on your cousin Eros this ain’t the British Royal Family”
Ouch, felt that one.
wait a minute, what do you mean by that?
@@driippii7759 probably that they're British
Andrew is that you?
@@driippii7759 Thena is actually the cousin of Thanos as their fathers were brothers
How dare he??? Surely the British royal family are faultless and above any criticism.
“This ain’t the British royal family” LMAOOO shots fired
"this ain't the British royal family" The way I smashed the pause button to let that sink in, and then started laughing uncontrollably is not normal
It’s funnier when your from the uk lol
@@cayden.m3720 We all know the royals like to keep there goods in the German-family tree 😂
@@cayden.m3720 you're*
@@lemonade_011 lmao yea
The Celestials are always experimenting. The Deviants were a failed experiment. So maybe Ego and Thanos are experiments.
As for the Asgardians, Asgard is a floating chunk of rock, what if it was a surviving piece of a planet that birthed a Celestial? Maybe the ancestors of the Asgardians found out that their planet had a Celestial and they managed to shield a chunk of their planet from destruction and that became Asgard.
But ego was also a celestial..and celestial only experiment on lesser kind to themselves..
@@MrCake-ui8uo i assume he meant eros
Maybe that's how they created odins destroyer using celestial parts.
That’s actually a pretty good explanation. Magic is just science we don’t understand yet. Maybe asgardian magic is a rudimentary, small form of Celestial science
@@MrCake-ui8uo ego isn't a celestial like the grandmaster, the collector, the gardnerand the runner are elders of the universe. Ego lied. All celestials are larger than planet robots looking beings
A’lars or Mentor as he’s often called actually created DRAX THE DESTROYER with the specific purpose of killing the Mad Titan, Thanos. Drax actually fulfills his duty during the Annihilation War when he ripped Thanos beating heart out of his chest.
Nice
Only took him decades
An iconic comic moment right there. Drax’s hand protruding from Thanos’ chest while still holding his beating heart, and Thanos looking at his own heart and saying: “… interesting”. I loved that moment so much haha
But he didn't really die right?? Wasn't after the Annihilation War that Nova, Quill and Thanos got trapped in the cancerverse?
@@hatelion no he was dead. He was just like the majority of popular comic characters who died, he came back.
The best part of the movie was when Kingo said “and speaking of Thor, I remember when he was a kid and used to follow me everywhere now he doesn’t even take my calls”… or something like that.
im looking forward to seeing how peter quill's heritage is handled... im also curious to see if they put a different spin on Ego spreading his spawn around the universe, like he was trying to corrupt the other gestating celestials, or speed up their emergences since he was truly lonely.
Ego was cancer. He trying spread himself on the other planets. Not to his children, he didn't care about them only his plan.
@@sophiawilson8696 we can say that for humans their ego is a cancer 😂
@@joshbrosh6626 Good Joke.😁
@@joshbrosh6626 depends lol
If Thanos is a eternal, he shouldn't have turned into dust..
Too much retconning to try and fill massive plot holes that are going on now.
There is a throw away line about Titan being 8° off its axis and the gravitational pull is all over the place, so I think there was at least a partial emergence. Global famine dose not tilt a planet.
The famine and death could have resulted in the celestial not having enough energy when it tried to emerge and essentially being stillborn.
Yeah I've always been waiting for this to be explained more. I don't think they would've thrown it in if it wasn't a reference towards future material, and now here we are bringing Titan back in.
Imagine this family at a dinner table
Once Upon a Time covered the complicated family tree at dinner.
The evil queen eating with snow white, prince charming, their two children, their grandson, rumplestiltskin who's their grandsons grandpa who's married to belle who has a child. Granny is also there.
He actually did a good job acting in Dunkirk. I’m not surprised he’s getting cast in more roles! The next movie he’s starring in, alongside Florence Pugh and Gemma Chan, looks very promising as well (Don’t Worry Darling).
I don’t think anyone saw his acting career coming, but he’s a very charismatic and charming person. It’ll be interesting to see what else he’ll be cast in in the future.
Can't wait to see how he interacts with the other characters! He might push the boundary in a way where you love him, but also question his methods. Lol
Wasn't a fan of harry's work. But he felt pretty cool in the scene, the humor his character has works pretty good with him
Hahaha he was in it for about 10mins, terrible casting choice.
@@falloutshorts he was only there for like 2 minutes
@@gravityfalls1826, Dunkirk
Voss: Ego, a Celestial who came early....
Me: Nice
Complicated family tree, just like in Greek mythology
Why isn't anyone talking about how there are Eros (god of love) and Thanatos (god of death) in greek mythology? I mean Thanatos is clearly derived from Thanos (in MCU of course). And Eros and Thanatos represent two opposites in literature.
Foils of eachother
“Thanatos is clearly derived from Thanos” please tell you’re joking
@@NikephorosCaesar i did not mean that Thanatos is derived from Thanos in our world (i am aware that thanos is from comics), but I meant in the MCU where for example mythical hero Icarus was named after Eternal Ikaris
@@NikephorosCaesar They meant the other way around. Thanos was based on Thanatos.
Thanos's and Eros's creator Jim Starling talked about this, it's intentional.
Is it possible that Ego and Nowhere are one and the same.
That when the Celestial was killed and it's head becoming the space station Nowhere, the brain was separated and survived to become Ego.
Yo that’s actually genius
I'm also think that might be it, i mean there're a hollowed head and there a brain just fly out there
That is a good idea but what is the organic matter they were mining in nowhere, everything but the brain?
Guys a lot of love from india audience here!! Keep It up..
If Eros was a celestial he would be called Eros the pleasurer
Of course they must. Thor is almost 4,000 years old in the MCU and the eternals are around 7,000 years old so they must have met each other in the past
I sure hope someone at Marvel is keeping track of all these "relationships" in an Excel spreadsheet.
“A celestial who came early” we got u erik, we got u
'This ain't the British Royal Family' PFHAHAHAHAHA
The connection between the Eternals and Asgardians noted in this video made me wonder for the first time if Eros might be in Thor: Love and Thunder, to further play with the title. Also feels like Taika Waititi would be the best director to build out Eros as a character. A long shot, I’m sure, but would be fun!
Love that idea
Makes sense. The villain is the God Butcher and the Eternals are seen as gods by mortal beings.
I pray that they bring the Eternals back to explain more!
I really can't get enough of all these Eternals discussion. Thanks NR!
I always thought it would be cool if Titan did have an emergence and that's what causes Titans destruction. What if this caused Thanos to want to wipe out half the population, thus sparring all other worlds from what his home endured. All I'm saying is that Thanos is the true hero.
Omggg.. making it why he wanted to wipe out half the population, he could have been delaying the emergence of every other planet
But this is why the Thanos explanation in Eternals makes no sense. They said they could not interfere with conflicts of earth. But what Thanos was doing would have interupted the emergence on earth as well as any other seeded planet in the universe. This would have directly made it a celestial/Eternal problem. Obviously, it's about plot. If the Eternals and/or celestials interfered, Thanos would not have gotten far. Also, the Eternals said they were not wiped by the blip. So if Thanos is an Eternal in canon, why was he able to be wiped out by Tony's snap? There seems to be a lot of plot holes that need explaining or fixing
@@ShanCarns then they will make Tony’s heroic image a non sense after he sacrificed lol
Do you guys think that Star lord does still have his Celestial powers? I know Ego said that if Peter kills him he would lose his powers and seemingly he did (?) . but he still does have his Celestial genes after all. I think his powers might have gone temporarily and maybe we will see him with his powers again? I don't know if this happens but if it does , that would be really cool.
I could see that. Maybe they won’t be awakened until he connects to another Celestial or maybe an Eternal. Weirder things have happened.
@@ckalemkiewicz Yh I dint think he even knows it yet. I think in the future one of the eternals will tell him he’s actually half celestial
@@mohammedismail147 He knows he is half celestial, but he lost his powers, or at least that is what Ego said.
Just a thought. What if the reason for Earth Eternals being Synthetic (created by Arashem) while Titan Eternals are not (because Thanos bled and got his head chopped off) is because they were created by another Eternal.
What if to keep it simple, since we know Knowhere is the head of an Eternal, that could have been the creator for the Titan's Eternal. And since it is dead, there is no one to keep them in check. That is why they are more freely able to do what they want after millenia of not being monitored by their Eternal. Since they lost their purpose, Titan basically went to sh*t and that is how the seed inside Titan never hatched.
The Eternals of Earth could also be a later creation where Celestials found that using Synthetics is more "convenient" for their purpose rather than creating Organic Eternals like Eros and Thanos as they could reproduce and maybe the instructions "encoded" into the Organic Eternals also waned/weakened as you go down a generation or two, thereby rendering not fit for the Celestials purpose anymore. And they could even more freely choose to rebel against their creators.
*Celestial. The head of knowhere is the head of a Celestial. Not an eternal.
What if Ego was the brain of Knowhere. After Knowhere died, its brain became the planet of Ego
Tbh harry styles sounds like a comic book name
Wow so the Eternals and the Asgardians did knew each other , that is just Unbelievable
I think that Ego's claim to be a "celestial" wasn't literal truth, but more a bit of self aggrandizing.
Even if he was being literal, marvel practically retconed the mcu. Ego has no relation with celestials now. As it always should be.
@@abrahamherrera7023 How you know that?
@@matheuslanerre2895 watching the eternals and gotg movies?
@@abrahamherrera7023 I think Ego was a celestial and that’s why he wanted Quill so he can begin his emergence. The celestials have been around for thousands of years. They probably have to wait to begin the emergence. Hence why Arishem began after Thanos and the avengers fight because I think the snap did something the celestisls need to do it.
I think he's a Celestial experiment to produce a Celestial without destroying the planet. But he's cast out as a failure and as revenge he tries to corrupt every planet so it's like him.
What's crazy is how portals have become such a normal thing now for phase4 and im here for it All! Eros is perfect for this side of the story. Adam Warlock has competition? 🤯🤣
What if in the MCU Thanos and Aeros have the same father but different mothers? What if the deviants on titans evolved way further than the ones shown on earth? To the point where they mixed into titan society? Alars could have had an affair that resulted in Thanos being born.
Loki learned his illusions skills from Sprite
Love these types of videos!!!!
Can you guys cover the cut scenes? I know Thena didn’t fight in a green drappy location and the would be cap. shield.
8:41 fr the jokes in this were too good
Could u maybe do a video about other eternals that Druig, Thena and Makkari might come across during their search for other eternals ?
Are we chalking up Eson the Searcher's relatively much smaller size, compared to the other celestials, to a not fully thought out plan at the time of Guardians Vol. 1? Or is Eson just supposed to be much smaller?
Maybe they can shrink in size like galactus??? They are gods after all.
@@Just-Ignore-It_88 maybe over time they got smaller
can you make a video about the hierarchy of all beings in the mcu? i’m curious where the watcher fits and who created him? is he above or below the celestial level
he is not bottom or top. He just watches :)
I think he’s below the celestial because in the comics the celestials wage war on the watchers in an unknown galaxy
This video is perfect bc it was wracking my brain how the 10 externals are synthetic but Starfox and Thanos are birthed.
This was very informative, Thank you!!
What if the Ego brain and the Knowhere head used to be part of the same celestial? 🤔🤔🤔
i’m excited to see how ego is a celestial. wether he was a gestation failure or the consciousness of knowwhere that somehow formed into a brain / planet. Really really hype to see love and thunder now as that’s our next cosmic adventure which could possibly include some eternals!
There was some kind of celestial battle that happened before..knowwhere head...ego brain floating in void space..Arishem got his damaged armour.. something did happened.
Beautiful narration
Idk, how am I supposed to sleep on my belly with that giant freaking mask on my eyes?
5:02 Erik's Daredevil cosplay
QUESTION: I presume Zeus and Zuras are two different characters in the comics. What if in the MCU they are the same character and Russell Crowe is indeed Thena's Father?
Rather than Eros being given the sphere as the lead Eternal I expect it was A'lars' and when something happened to A'lars it was passed on to Eros.
and given the fact that thanos had a different point of view may very well explain why it was given to him
Eros the god of love, Thor the god of thunder. Yeah let the movie predictions begin
Yo I'm so hyped
Do the Stark family tree!!! Visions grandparents are Tony and Bruce!!!
Technically no, Visions parents are Tony and Ultron Tony made Jarvis (The AI in the body) and Ultron made /came up with the idea of the body
@@nubiestnub3683 tony ultron and bruce banner
While in the comics its hank pym
@@nubiestnub3683 Thor also contributed. Without his lightning, Vision wouldn’t have awoken
Technically no, visions grandparents are Hanky Pym and Janet Van Dyne
seeing those sleep blinders tells me why i always find a shortage of replacement cups for my razer headset. also after all these lock downs a lot of people might welcome a visit from oneg the prober.
0:19 _"because uh.. visually speaking, One of these things, is not like the other...! One being a smouldering cut of beef arousing parts of us we didn't know existed..."_
This was toooo extremely funny by Erik!!! Some of the most hilarious analogies by Erik were in this video!!! 😆
You're kinda mixing things up too much. Earth X is an alternate reality. The Eternals of Titan came from Earth and left Earth, so there's no baby Celestial in Titan. The Titan Eternals abandoned their duties on Earth.
this one was really good and funny!
It'll be so funny if it turns out Peter and Thanos are related.
First!
Also, effing loved the film. Critics were def way too harsh on the film
Legend says they have no brain
Definitely think that movie wasn’t horrible but also wasn’t good. Felt like some of the Characters were forgettable like Sprite and Kingo. Also minor thing that bothered me was if an Celestial happened to pop out of the center of the Earth, wouldn’t that just completely destroy the planet? 6.5/10.
@@2kVue123 Yes, it would destroy the planet. that's why they were trying to stop that.
@@2kVue123 | I agree on the sprite and celestial thing.
@@2kVue123 a Celestial.
Love the vids and I was wondering if you were going to do any videos on pacific rim: the black, I was surprised on how much I liked it I think you should check it out
Will we ever see eternity in the MCU? I hope so.
Just so long as they don't belittle Eternity like they did exposing us to the talking Celestials in a movie about the Justice League fighting dogs. Ugh,I love Marvel and now I'm not looking forward to anything. The Celestials were one of the coolest tricks in their bag, and they killed and deceived one in the first appearance; this was disappointing.
Too complex to be shown in big screen.
Thank you for video
Eternals are "synthetic" like say the cylons in BSG 2005 or the synthetics in blade runner are.. they're not synthetics as in vision
I have one of the BluBox & love it!
I wish Gilgames will be re created with same memories that he love thena
There is a scene in Endgame where Natasha talks about earthquakes under Indian ocean. Captain Marvel replies that it is happening in many other planets.
At least they can always time travel back to Endgame final, snap out all the celestials and leave the Infinity Stones to Captain America.
You have to be a comic book fan to appreciate this …. But marvel did make a DC film
@Caleb Jacobs batman and flash as well
Harry styles be like “watermelon THANOS”
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆😆👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow thats so clever 🙄
@@wilsonruleman you must be fun to be around
@@wilsonruleman wow your so clever(sarcasm)
@@deaninselman3938 thats cool. Said exactly what I said? Feel cool now?
cool! Love this! I loved this movie!
Maybe since thanos is an eternal, he disagreed with the celestials plan to destroy titan. That could be the original reason he wanted to kill half the population. So that it couldn't reach the critical mass
No
killing half the population wouldnt solve or achieve anything, so thanos would be a braindead fool if that is his reasoning.
I bought two what if shirts from Rockstar merch. White one and black one. They are awesome and fit perfectly!
There is just so much to understand lol idk if I’ll ever understand it all haha
So much great NRs content 👍
Wow you know what my eye lids do a pretty good job of blocking the light out to as I tend not to try and sleep with my eyes open lol I thought everyone done this haha
I enjoyed watching The Enternals in Cinema on 5th November
There are so many artifacts coming to the mcu. The ebony blade, ten rings, all black the necrosword will they all be used to fight a variation of kang in different timeliness?
The best crossover ever would be these guys meeting odin
Dr. Strange - “He definitely doesn’t look like a Thanos…”
I was like U know nothing Jon snow in my head the whole movie 😂
“…this ain’t the royal family!” 🤣
E Voss with the Bars today 🙌🏾 😄🤣🤣
I know that p but in thor the dark world it was revealed that the darkelves predate the universe, they existed in the void. So before the universe came to be, we know atleast that the void was populated by the darkelves and arishem.
I have a feeling that they will introduce knull and will reveal that the darkelves worshiped knull.
Oddly enough he fits the role, and he has looks and the costume is so accurate to the comics
Honestly I think they’ll go the adopted route. Thanos being adopted solves this entire nightmare of a family tree. Would love to see “Guardians of the Galaxy 3: Family Ties” which would bring in the Eternals to meet Quill and his group.
I think the eternals will first go after quill because they stopped the emergence for arishem and that probably pissed him off a lot. So at some point they’ll probably meet and they will realise what he is and will probably tell him how he could use his powers
Marvel adoption center
This is so cool
im more excited about pip showing up, we really are getting battleworld eventually.
Not going to lie you had us in the first half “and the other Harry styles”
What if EGO was the celestial NoWhere before he got his head cut off the it was cut and his brain survive and was floating out in space and then he became EGO.... Something like the celestials never really die just transfer their life energy???
Could be
interesting
Nope
All these proposed theories attempting to fill in all the plot holes from Eternals are now starting to conflict with each other.
Thanos and eros being brothers isnt a plot hole they just havent explained it yet and so what if theories contradict each other they are just theories
Way too much ret con going on...
A pretzel factory has less twists and turns than the ones people are making to try and make sense of the MCU anymore...
The snap's are something that stands out for me, so Thanos snap slowed the celestials birth, while the hulk's snap jump started it again (like a defibrillator) so why does iron man's snap have no effect, but it wipes out all of Thanos army and Thanos who is a eternal/celestial or son of eternal/celestial.. yet eternals weren't effected by the snaps in anyway. 🤷
It's just a convoluted mess... All the fan theories and people getting their hopes up for things that might not come to fruition the way they want is interesting to watch..
@@c.a.t4607 you must be very frustated about MCUs sucess. Sorry it is not for everyone. You can enjoy something else
@@ajay_johnson lmao... Keep projecting.. your assumptions are amusing me
@@c.a.t4607 the thing about eternals not being effected by the snaps is, you have to directly think about what you want the snap to do while snapping. If the one doing the snapping doesn’t know the existence of something then they can’t use the infinity gauntlet on it. So tony and the hulk makes since. And we don’t know if thanos was aware or not either. And had thanos known, the eternals are supposed to protect civilizations, he wouldn’t have needed to eliminate them as his end goal was to save all life from repeating the same mistakes on his planet.
My eyes popped out of my head when he said "came early." Such a subtle, yet horrifying joke LOL
Honest question, based on the comics, and aside from Harry, who would you rather have them cast as Eros?
Thanks
Love Y'all NR!
Anyone gonna mention the size difference between Eson and the rest of the celestials? In the comics they were all about the size of eson when we see him in guardians but in eternals some are evidently bigger than planets and others like Tiamat came out of the core and was nearly the size of earth
How long will he actually be there I’m sure Harry contract is only for a few parts to keep his schedule free
Next we need to see Johnny Sind in the MCU
He'd make a good bullseye.
The big twist should have been the deviants we’re hunting humans since humans were the apex predators in the way of the much smaller unknown mutant population in earth. All it would have took is during a deviant attack for a deviant to run up to what looked to be a normal human and stop short as if it recognized it and ran off to attack the rest of the actual humans.
Y'all need some marvel contracts y'all putting all this together and the writers are taking your ideas
It would be insane if Arishem returns with Exitar
so strange to have been a one direction fan from 2012 and a marvel fan from 2005 then seeing those two interests collide with harry styles 😂
Could this come up also in Loki?... an explanation of variants and on how there is now a multiverse...? Kinda puts into perspective of magic vs science again. 🤯🤣